Stop the promoter’s ordinance
May 9, 2008 at 9:50 pm 6,008 comments
WE DID IT!!! THE ORDINANCE HAS BEEN PULLED!!!!
For now…
We do need to keep up on this. They’re putting it back in committee for more work. At least this time there will be some input from the entertainment community. Bookmark this site to keep up on the developments!
In the meantime, tonight I, for one, am celebrating!
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Imagine a Chicago with no Metro or Double Door or Schuba’s. Imagine a Chicago with no Royal George or Bailiwick or Athenaeum. Imagine a Chicago where local music is only heard in the suburbs and theater is limited to Wicked and Jersey Boys.
Scary thoughts. But if the City of Chicago’s City Council doesn’t hear your voice by Wednesday, May 14, they can become reality.
On that date the council will vote to approve an ordinance that has the power to stifle creativity in Chicago’s musical, theatrical, and general cultural scenes. With no public discourse or commentary, this proposal has been approved by the City Council Committee and is on the fast track to be pushed into law. It is up to us to let our elected officials know that Chicago’s creative scene is too rich, too varied, and too vital to be regulated in such a blanket fashion.
The details:
The “Event Promoters” ordinance requires any event promoter to have a license from the city of Chicago and liability insurance of $300,000, but that’s just the start:
- The definition of “event promoter” is so loosely defined it could apply to a band that books its own shows or a theater company that’s in town for a one-week run.
- “Event Promoter” must be licensed and will pay $500 – $2000 depending on expected audience size.
- To get the license, applicant must be over 21, get fingerprinted, submit to a background check, and jump over several other hurdles.
- This ordinance seems targeted towards smaller venues, since those with 500+ permanent seats are exempt.
- Police must be notified at least 7 days in advance of event.
For the complete ordinance, check out Jim DeRogatis’ blog on the Chicago Sun-Times.
We are collecting signatures to present to the council voicing our opposition to this ordinance. YOUR VOICE IS NECESSARY TO ENSURE CHICAGO’S CULTURAL SCENE CONTINUES TO THRIVE. Please leave a comment as your expression of disapproval. These will be presented to the City Council and to all Chicago Aldermen prior to Wednesday’s vote.
Thank you for helping to protect Chicago’s Culture.
Sincerely,
Theresa Carter, The Local Tourist: THE Website for downtown Chicago
Michael Teach, Chicago Acoustic Underground
Michael Narvaez, Chicago Acoustic Underground
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1. Theresa Carter | May 9, 2008 at 10:25 pm
As someone who’s passionate about Chicago and its incredible music and cultural scene I see this ordinance effectually relegating this vibrant city to the dark ages.
2. Michael Teach | May 9, 2008 at 10:30 pm
This ordnance is ridiculous! The laws that are currently in place cover everything that is espoused by this “Law”. If the original laws had been enforced at E2 there would never have been a problem.
Do not eliminate the music community from performing in Chicago!
Peace,
Michael Teach, Host
Chicago Acoustic Underground
3. Michael Narvaez | May 9, 2008 at 10:35 pm
After fighting so long to help the Chicago music since I find this ordinance totally outrageous so lets stop the madness!
4. Dennis M. Kelly | May 9, 2008 at 11:45 pm
Chicago Music Guide will do all that we can to ensure that people are well informed of this situation so they’ll have the opportunity to express their opinions on the matter.
Please let us know how else we can help to stop this from becoming a reality.
Dennis M. Kelly
Owner/Editor
Chicago Music Guide
5. Bradley Petrik | May 10, 2008 at 7:24 am
As a performer myself, to learn of an ordinance like this makes me sick to my stomach. This will directly limit my livelihood and make it harder for me to perform as I please.
I hope that this ordinance doesn’t become law and destroy the vibrant cultural capital in Chicago. We are a world class city because of our cultural capital – doing this will destroy the reputation that we have developed for so long.
6. Amy Mueller | May 10, 2008 at 7:31 am
Come on Chicago, what are you thinking?
I am so against this. It’s asinine. I’ll be blogging about this at the Chicago Moms Blog.
Amy Mueller
(312) 235-2028
http://www.chicagomomsblog.com
7. Eric Mueller | May 10, 2008 at 7:34 am
Ridiculous.
Will be blogging about this at http://www.canyouseethesunset.com
Eric Mueller
8. Cara Carriveau | May 10, 2008 at 7:35 am
My biggest concern is how will effect nonprofit events that barely squeak by as it is. I host many benefit concerts and these proposed fees will literally take away money from deserving charities and individuals in need. And, I really don’t see the point or benefit – so what if the promoter is fingerprinted, how is that going to make the concert run any better??? This is a horrendous concept and sure hope the bill does not pass.
9. Phil Rosenberg | May 10, 2008 at 7:46 am
As a fan of the Chicago Music and arts scene, it would be a crime to strip up and coming performers of the ability to find their audience. Jam, Live Nation, and Ticketmaster make enough money charging $50-$300+/ticket with their lock on larger concert venues.
Chicago’s small venue music choices bring this city untold tourist and entertainment dollars spent in restaurants, hotels, and related entertainment….and taxes.
How will Chicago’s Blues and Jazz musicians survive this ordinance? How will Chicago’s Jazz Fest and Blues Fest look when no Chicago artists are on the bill, because they were all driven to Memphis, Austin, and New Orleans? This ordinance will drive the arts to more friendly cities because of poorly thought, back room politics designed to enrich the big players at the expense of the performers.
Keep Chicago, not Austin, the live music capital of the world, and don’t pass this ordinance.
Phil Rosenberg
Music Fan and President of reCareered & Rainmakers Global
10. Penny Carter, CPA, CIA | May 10, 2008 at 8:08 am
This ordinance goes far beyond ensuring that controls are in place to prevent another E2 disaster. It will have the affect of limiting the active music scene in Chicago to only huge acts that can afford promoter’s fees. The effect will be to prevent smaller concerts, including those benefiting charitable organizations. Is this a bill written for insurance companies or for promoters? It certainly is not written as an answer to E2, because sufficient laws are already in place – if they are enforced. Please do not allow such an all-encompassing ordinance to become a bill.
11. Paul Kloster | May 10, 2008 at 9:04 am
Please don’t let the Chicago music scene become a parody of itself. Many people have worked their butts off to make the city a well known stop for artists, fans etc. It would be a shame to see all of this hard work go to waste if this law is passed.
12. Shanara Fornett | May 10, 2008 at 10:16 am
Please add my name to the list!
PEACE
13. Moe Martinez | May 10, 2008 at 10:28 am
This ordinance seems like the most ridiculous idea for a city that supposedly prides itself on its music and arts scene.
I will link to this petition from my own blog.
Moe
contact@skipthedial.com
http://www.skipthedial.com
14. Wendy Parman | May 10, 2008 at 10:31 am
As both a musician and performer and a fan of music/theater in this city I am appalled at the nasty way this ordinance is being pushed through with so little feedback from the community. What the heck Chicago? Let’s stop this now.
15. Jane Granner | May 10, 2008 at 10:31 am
Speak up Chicago! Let your voices be heard! Don’t allow the culture of Chicago’s music scene be destroyed by some stifling ordinance that will directly impact smaller venues and charitable organizations. We need to encourage and support these artists and keep Chicago the best city in the world!
16. michael harnett | May 10, 2008 at 10:48 am
As a strong supporter of Chicago’s local music scene and former promoter, club owner and manager of bands this ordinance is for no other purpose than to protect the status quo and generate revenues for the city. Instead of working to grow the music scene and live music events the City of Chicago continues to add tax upon tax and hurdle upon hurdle to stifle musicians, club owners, promoters and event managers. They can go all out, with their deep pocket corporate partners, to host the Olympics but to do something positive for the music scene which generates good will and multiple revenue streams they just keep putting up more roadblocks. They should be ashamed and this ordinance needs to be killed.
Michael Harnett
17. Chicago Guitar Lessons | May 10, 2008 at 11:07 am
This is typical of a Democratic big American city. They preach to the middle class, ask them to pay, then take their rights away by out pricing them. We at CGL.com have a business license, pay high property taxes and play the game. Mostly the middle class is not equipt for this. Our “Home Business License” is based on the fact that if they will not give us what we need we will buy in Des Plaines and still do business with Chicago.
They want that money so they change the laws for the ( .com )
buiness futures market.
No cigarrettes
No bands
No bars
This is wrong !
18. Meg | May 10, 2008 at 11:08 am
This absolutely defies belief. I have seen shows at all but two of the venues listed in Jim DeRogatis’s blog and they have been some of the best times of my life. Independant music is one of the things I absolutely love about Chicago. It is absurd to think that this would go this far without notice of the public. If the worries are about “unsafe event planning”, then reinforce the saftey laws with higher penalties. The music shouldn’t have to suffer because of dishonest promoters.
19. Sean Patrick | May 10, 2008 at 11:48 am
This is outrageous! Talk about a sure-fire way to kill what makes this city great. This has to be stopped – I fully agree with the posts so far – if it’s “safety” that is the issue, raise the penalties (again) but I think we all know that’s cosmetic. This will take a huge city-wide effort. Let’s get started!
20. Lisa Barcy | May 10, 2008 at 1:10 pm
It’s as if they’re trying to vanquish anything that makes this town interesting. If Chicago’s music scene is limited to Wal-mart style musicals you can see just about anywhere, then we’ve truly been reduced to a carbon copy shopping mall. Don’t suck the soul out of our town!
21. Amy DK | May 10, 2008 at 1:43 pm
As a singer/songwriter, this ordinance would basically do away with almost every place I could play within the city of Chicago. By passing this, the livelihood of hundreds of musicians in the Chicago area would be adversely affected.
While safety is a genuine issue, there should be a way of dealing with those concerns without in effect destroying an integral part of what makes Chicago great – the local music and theatre community.
22. Diane Grider | May 10, 2008 at 2:10 pm
The thing I love most about this city is how it embraces artists, this ordinance is completely opposing to artists! Small venues offer emerging artists a chance to get their music heard and start building a reputation and audience. Not to mention, it’s a huge draw for visitors. Passing this ordinance would be a shot in our own foot, very stupid!
23. Meghan | May 10, 2008 at 2:16 pm
Whats amazing is that Chicago has this great reputation for music and entertainment and a constant selection of things to do. Yet, with the staggering amount of permits, licensing, registration, fees, etc, that is required to do or have anything here, it seems it was only a matter of time before the City Council decided that they should be making a profit off of the entertainment traveling into the city. I’m surprised that they don’t make you pay to enter the city limits.
24. Thomas Goforth | May 10, 2008 at 2:29 pm
I am wholeheartedly against this ordinance. I find it unimaginable that the City Council would try to sneak this through to passage. Do not our elected representatives know what makes Chicago such a great City culturally? It’s the opportunity for creative artists, actors, and preformers to show their work and their talent. Do these folks have the money to pay yet another tax? To restrict the possibility of performance in small venues by creative artists and performers is, in my opinion, foolhardy in the extreme.
25. Sophia Rane | May 10, 2008 at 2:44 pm
My son is an emerging musician with his band and I would hate to think that thia ordiance would prevent him from playing in his BELOVED City of Chicago!!!!!!!
26. Sophia Rane | May 10, 2008 at 2:51 pm
My son is an emerging musician with his band and I would hate to think that this ordinance woud prevet him from playing in his BELOVED CIty of Chicago!!
27. Sandi Roberson | May 10, 2008 at 3:13 pm
I am totally against this ordinance. Musicians have it hard enough to show their talent. Our city would be a very boring place to visit for vacationers or anyone for that matter!
28. Laura Saaf | May 10, 2008 at 3:18 pm
It’s not right to demand all these requirements and fees of the smaller venues, theater groups, etc. when the 500+ seat places are exempt. How are you ever going to get big if you can’t start small? This legislation seems to be dead set against uniqueness in Chicago’s culture and flies in the face of what makes Chicago so vibrant and alive. The big venues are NOT the end-all and be-all of Chicago culture!
29. Gary Tu | May 10, 2008 at 5:17 pm
I am 100 percent against this law. Fight the power.
30. bethfinke | May 10, 2008 at 5:50 pm
I am blind. If you know people with disabilities, you know it isn’t easy for us to find high-paying jobs. I love going to theatre, hearing live music, attending readings. Chicago offers many of these things at an affordable price. I would like to be able to continue to appreciate the high quality of culture here in Chicago and am therefore against this proposed legislation.
31. Thomas Appling | May 10, 2008 at 5:55 pm
Chicago should be helping to make more opportunites for burgeoning talent to be heard in small venues. Chicago is proud to be the “Second City”…this ordinance in it’s current form is sure to make it the “Last City” by driving talent to other more artist friendly communities.
32. James R. Neff | May 10, 2008 at 7:30 pm
Another ordinance, The City that works is working to destroy its own music and cultural scene.
33. Larz Lustie | May 10, 2008 at 7:32 pm
as a musician and performer of over 20 years, i can tell you that this will utterly DESTORY the flourishing Chicago independant music and performance scene.
and in the aftermath- the only place anyone will be able to see any talent will be at huge venuse that cannot be filled by anyone other than national bands and thetrical companies; i hope everyon will enjoy paying exuberent ticket costs for entertainment of any kind, and mayor Daily -with his “whatever” type of attitude, will just get more wealthy from it-just look at how he passed the buck of responsibily in regards to channel 9′s undercover report on vermin at O-Hare airport- if this ordinace passes-the Chicago music scene will be ripped up under the cover of secrecy and darkness, just like Migs Field
34. bruce watson | May 10, 2008 at 7:51 pm
enough of this madness—stifling creative possibilities in the veil of “Public Safety” is reminscent of past fascism.
35. Elisabeth Blair | May 10, 2008 at 8:03 pm
My band promotes its own shows and probably will for a long time to come. Even regardless of whether this law is actually enforced, to feel like a criminal when I am promoting a show will be awful. And if it is enforced, even sporadically, it will screw us musicians over so much it makes me want to cry. We simply do not have this kind of money. I repeat, we do not have it. City Hall: Please don’t shut down the vibrant Chicago music scene with this sweeping act.
To all: Please join the Facebook group, Save Chicago Culture.
36. paul yahl | May 10, 2008 at 11:47 pm
Is this for real? I know Chicago is corrupt from living there for three years but, this is beyond ridiculous. Is this their way of turning a buck?… brilliant…
37. Chris | May 11, 2008 at 12:36 am
this is absolutly outrageous.
i wouldnt be surprised to see an exodus of independent musicians from the city, should this pass, and be enforced to the degree everyone is talking about.
i, for one, would no longer feel comfortable performing here.
there are other cities to call home.
38. Emil Wisch | May 11, 2008 at 12:48 am
Oh, real nice. The little guys get f**ked again. Music is now being rationed by lawmakers who know what’s best for everybody else. I know promoters and small bands who put more than full time hours into their crafts and still don’t make enough money to get by. Stop now and go pick on somebody else. Oops, sorry you can’t because their paying you off to look the other way. So, go ahead and destroy the spirit of entrepreneurship and creativity little by little. It’s only a little thing that this country was built on. In my experience, the idea of entrepreneurship gives a lot of people hope and keeps them from seeking more socially unacceptable ways of paying the bills. If the gov’t used a little common sense and creativity, maybe they wouldn’t have to tax everybody and everything.
While you’re at it, make the boy scouts and girl scouts to get vendor’s license to sell thier cookies.
Get bent! I mean that with nothing but respect.
39. Ryan Gunzel | May 11, 2008 at 1:38 am
It’s really a shame. It has been in recent years that Chicago has seen a lot of rebuilding and reemerging of neighborhoods, which have in turn only helped to make Chicago a better city. And much of this is due to artists. If something like this had passed twenty years ago, would there be the Wicker Park, Lincoln Park, Ukrainian Village, Logan Square, etc, that we know today? What’s to keep local artists, non-profit organizations, and small time events in Chicago? And when those people leave, what will keep the small cafes, boutiques, record stores, book stores? This proposal is a step backwards.
40. Thomas Woytus | May 11, 2008 at 2:32 am
Please don’t pass this ordinance! My friend David Kav is a musician and the ordinance will make it difficult to spread his amazing work.
41. Justin Birchard | May 11, 2008 at 2:40 am
It is already hard enough to make an honest living as a musician. We don’t need City Hall making it even harder.
Chicago is a place of innovation and creativity… let’s keep it that way.
Otherwise great bands will find new homes, and the soul of the city will be gone.
Please reconsider this ordinance!
42. David Kav | May 11, 2008 at 2:48 am
Speaking on behalf of those of us who make their living meagerly as artists, this ordinance is beyond absurd!
Being a lifelong resident of the Chicagoland area, I have always bragged about the rich, diverse, infinitely creative and fruitful possibilities that one can have as an artist in this beautiful city. Passing this unnecessary ordinance will stifle not only performances, but will tarnish the history and heritage that Chicago has built its name upon.
I’m posting this EVERYWHERE that I possibly can. Please – help me to preserve the faith that I have in “That Toddlin’ Town.” Please – help me to continue to brag about our lovely “Windy City.” Please – help me to continue to stand on our “Big Shoulders” and to help the forthcoming artists of the future continue to enrich Chicago.
How, you ask? By turning down this Ordinance.
I leave with this final thought. Remember the 1994 MLB strike? If you view ANY MLB game on television, you can see NUMEROUS empty seats. The reason: MLB has never fully recovered from the greed that spoiled our National Pastime. PLEASE – DON’T LET THAT HAPPEN TO OUR CULTURE IN CHICAGO!
Thank you for your time, consideration and help in advance.
Peace, love and LIVE ART IN CHICAGO!
David Kav
43. David Kav | May 11, 2008 at 3:16 am
Just posted a link on my web site to this site. It’s the first link that you’ll see on my Links page. SAVE CHICAGO CULTURE!
David Kav
44. Jennifer Gage | May 11, 2008 at 3:21 am
This is BEYOND disgusting. Words can not express how disturbing this is. Beyond all the points made, do you think ANY shows could survive this? Really. Without the “little” there is no “big.” Artists have to become inspired by something and have to have a little practice along the way. In short, Chicago can not thrive on HUGE venues alone.
45. sarah potenza | May 11, 2008 at 3:28 am
Unfair, and unexceptable! it’s not hard enough being an artists. the city wants a piece of everything, we cannot let this happen!
46. gina Picchi | May 11, 2008 at 5:47 am
Help support Musicians not push them away. Spread the word.
47. NatureDevil | May 11, 2008 at 5:49 am
This will be up at http://www.NatureDevil.com as well… I’d comment on this here but my use of language would not benefit anyone.
I wish someone would go and bulldoze an aldermans’ house or the Mayors’ house to put up a parking lot or an aquarium.
48. Kathleen Herrebout | May 11, 2008 at 5:54 am
This ordinance is crazy. How can small local artists perform? What are fundraisers supposed to do, only bake sales? Stop all this micromanaging and let culture continue. We need to encourage, not eliminate.
49. Courtney Hunt | May 11, 2008 at 7:27 am
I admit I was neutral about this law when I read the details above, but after reading all the passionate and heartfelt comments, I have to add my voice to the opposition. If there are already good laws on the books, there’s no reason to add unnecessary bureaucratic hoops that too many decent, law-abiding people wouldn’t be able to jump through. Besides, as others have noted, the laws themselves won’t prevent a disaster – only proper monitoring and enforcement will.
50. Kelley Smith | May 11, 2008 at 7:45 am
I have done promotions, to help venues and bands. This would completely affect that work, which I do for free (as a hobby). This is ludicrous!
No other area has this type of law. Nothing good will come out of charging people to enrich other lives with their music.
This is just one more thing that will make it harder to hear GOOD music. Record labels have enough power as it is.
Please do not allow this to pass!
51. Nicole Zwicker | May 11, 2008 at 7:55 am
This is terrible. I know so many hard working and talented musicians here and this sort of thing would crush them and all of our amazing small venues. There is an incredible culture of independent music and art here. Don’t do this!
52. You need to get your act together | May 11, 2008 at 7:56 am
I agree that there are problems with the ordinance, but I have not seen one valid rational complaint against this eg:
I won’t be able to get insurance because I am so small (I have found this to be a problem)
There is no reason that I should increase my liablity by adding the City on the insurance
The $500 dollars that I would have to pay semi-annually would be more than I could afford and would hurt my bottom line.
If you plan on just complaining, it won’t work — you need valid reasons for the city to listen.
poster — this is a blog and all coments should be postes as long as they are not inapropriate. You have not posted a few of my similar posts. This is a valid comment and important for people to know they need to get deeper into this issue than – It’s going to hurt us.
53. Peter from Chicagp | May 11, 2008 at 7:56 am
Another way to grab revenue and control who does business in the city. And ultimately it leaves more music unheard. Sad, sad, sad. Please help defeat this ordinance as it will help snuff out an already dying cultural scene in the city.
54. Leo Back-Violet Vicious and The Vagabonds | May 11, 2008 at 8:23 am
As always the politicians use overkill to address an issue-what happened to cause this has little connection to what the results of this stupid ordinance will be. VOTE NO!!!
55. Myrna Vazquez | May 11, 2008 at 8:31 am
Don’t you people have anything to do, but sit around and make up stupid laws that bilk money from those who least likely can afford it? What is this? I’m about this close to gettin’ out of dodge. And then what will you have. Nothin’ left but the gunslingers!!!
Disgusted with the lot of you… why don’t you all just give yourself a raise and really get people mad.
MK
56. susan | May 11, 2008 at 8:31 am
Don’t stop the music!
Large cities need little people to make it vibrant.
Requiring large sums of money to play at small venues will make the small venues disappear, which in a small leap will make large amounts of city revenue disappear.
Chicago! Look at the bigger picture. This will cost much, much more than it could possibly generate.
57. Ted Norstrom | May 11, 2008 at 8:55 am
I’ll just echo what Michael said “The laws that are currently in place cover everything that is espoused by this “Law”. If the original laws had been enforced at E2 there would never have been a problem. Do not eliminate the music community from performing in Chicago!”
58. Michael Crawford | May 11, 2008 at 9:07 am
What can we do to stop this?!
59. Elisabeth Blair | May 11, 2008 at 9:07 am
Do you guys realize it’s even more awful than it seems at first glance? It’s not $500 flat, it’s $500 FOR EACH VENUE a promoter works with. That is complete insanity.
60. Jenny Blair | May 11, 2008 at 9:10 am
As a purely practical matter, this will shut down or drive out small-time performers who do their own promotions. Either that or they will be operating illegally.
1. They cannot afford to pay $500 even once, let alone per venue. Some small artists play in dozens of venues around the city while doing their own promotions. Dozens x $500 = finished.
2. They cannot afford to pay the projected $300-$700 per year (the City Council’s Efrat Stein’s number, not mine) for liability insurance.
3. Enforcing this law will be expensive, erratic, and altogether impractical. Which police are going to be cruising nightclubs looking at promoters’ licenses?
4. Even operating illegally will be difficult because venue owners are also criminalized by using unlicensed promoters. Read the ordinance (on Jim DeRogatis’ blog or at the City Council’s website).
5. Anyone under 21 is legislated out. This is the time of life when talent flowers. Young musicians and comedians will have to leave the city limits to perform.
6. And, regarding leaving the city limits, just driving across town is becoming terribly expensive. People with four or five musical instruments can’t just hop on the train, either.
7. Any law experts reading this? How is this not a First Amendment violation?
People who can should come to the City Council meeting. It’s on Wednesday, May 14th, at 10 AM, at 121 N. LaSalle, 2nd Floor. Make a small sign you can wave inside (or, if you can’t get in, outside) the building.
Please, also, call your alderman. Here’s how to find out who your alderman is: http://www.chicityclerk.com/citycouncil/alderman/find.html
61. distinctivecoaching | May 11, 2008 at 9:38 am
Chicago has a rich and storied local performing arts tradition that must be kept intact.
There may be a larger picture at stake here as well. I can see this new law not only limiting performing arts for both performers and audiences, but also other events that require promotion such as recreational, educational and professional development classes, workshops and activities.
Please vote to secure and continue Chicago’s diverse, proud cultural offerings.
Sincerely,
Jason Rosado
Owner, http://www.DistinctiveCoaching.com
62. Teri Gidwitz | May 11, 2008 at 9:41 am
This is ridiculous. Is our city government intentionally trying to destroy a vibrant arts and music culture? Have these alderman thought about the ramification of this ordinance? People who can afford to make choices will choose to live some place other than Chicago, where the the arts and performance are nurtured and encouraged, and where actions of the local government don’t contribute to the continued “Walmartization” and homogenization of our lifestyle and our choices.
I will send this to my friends and colleagues who will undoubtedly clamor to protest this ordinance.
63. Diana Rein | May 11, 2008 at 9:43 am
I am outraged at what this will do to our artistic community that I feel is so special and unique. Chicago is where I felt a true artist could perform their art and still be able to pay the bills. This is a town where I felt that artists were encouraged and this is everything but that. I am in shock that someone would even come up with this madness and shut down a significant chunk of amazing venues that don’t cater to the “mainstream BS”. I lived in Los Angeles for quite awhile and I wouldn’t stop hearing about how Chicago Theatre is the best and I am not talking about touring companies. I am talking about Underground Theatre where so many celebrities that Chicago prides itself on, got their start. I came back to Chicago because I felt that I could really start from the ground up and build a name for myself doing my music. Now that opportunity is going to be washed away and people will get out of here in no time. Artists will go where they are appreciated and Chicago will have zero color anymore, it will be stale and dead without Art. Going to Buddy Guy’s Legends for the first time was unbelievable. I was so thankful to see one of my inspirations so up close and personal. It was one of the most pivotal moments of my life and I am sure for others. Now, generations to come wouldn’t be able to have that life altering experience because of this irrational law.
I will send this to all of the artists that I know and sane people that wouldn’t have even imagined such a filthy law. Way to support artists Chicago. You have disappointed us greatly.
Diana Rein
64. Jim | May 11, 2008 at 9:47 am
If this passes this will end whatever growth the city has had in it’s cultural identity. This CANNOT become a reality. City government PLEASE look around. You have tourists coming in from all over the world, convention participants looking for something to do. If you have no local talent performing because they can’t afford a ridiculous $300,000 liability policy then you will have an awful hard time competing for convention business which already is hard enough. Cities like Orlando and Las Vegas have taken enough away. I grew up in this city and am very proud of what we have accomplished. Please don’t ruin it!
65. Ed Cline | May 11, 2008 at 9:59 am
The power hungry, forever tax increasing, gestapo like political machne that runs this city needs to be stopped when and where possible to protect the future of Chicago.
66. Carole McCurdy | May 11, 2008 at 10:07 am
A city that claims to support a flourishing arts scene would be hypocritical and foolish to pass an ordinance like this. These fees and strictures would effectively prevent emerging performers from developing and sharing their work, and Chicago would see a rapid withering of its cultural scene. And, if the Council has the financial interests of the city in mind, it will not pass this ordinance: imposing these fees would reduce Chicago’s cultural capital enormously, and in short order the city’s nightlife/entertainment industry (small and large venues alike) would see negative economic effects.
67. Curtis Larkin | May 11, 2008 at 10:13 am
This is absolutely foolish. Touring and live performance is a critical revenue stream for performing artists. The ripple effect this could have on the banged-up music industry could be significantly damaging.
68. Tara Dettore | May 11, 2008 at 10:15 am
I think this is absolutely insane!
69. Brian Leli | May 11, 2008 at 10:24 am
This is outrageous and unnecessary.
The CMC put it best…
“The ordinance will reduce the amount of music in Chicago, make events more expensive for consumers, dampen the large and growing economic engine that is Chicago music, and create a much less supportive business climate for Chicago’s small music business community.”
Outrageous and unnecessary.
70. Rachel Rossner | May 11, 2008 at 10:26 am
I urge the City of Chicago’s City Council not to pass this destructive measure.
71. Greg Fundis | May 11, 2008 at 10:53 am
Don’t do it Chicago! Keep the local independant music scene and touring artists alive and thriving. Small businesses, big ambition!
72. Mark Shallow | May 11, 2008 at 11:01 am
There is a terribly misguided notion alive in this country that the arts must be, first and foremost, about money. One look at the culture of Hollywood is enough – but, the hand of greed has also reached into the cultural life of Chicago. A few years ago, a number of small theatres were perempotorily closed down, some as the the curtain was about to go up on the evening’s performance. This is elitism at its very worst – and now, we have the “Promoters Ordinance”, which would effectively strangle the life out of small theatres where some of the most entertaining shows are offered every week. It has been my privilege and pleasure to be a part of these shows, and it saddens me no end that this heavy-handed ordinance is even being discussed. I protest this is vehemently as is possible. It is wrong, it is grossly unfair and it ought to be stopped dead in its tracks.
73. Eric Mahle | May 11, 2008 at 11:18 am
As a musician and sound engineer at a 375 cap. venue, I strongly oppose this ordinance. Not only is the small venue circuit my livelyhood and only means of employment, it’s also my love and social network. Chicago is one of the best independent music cities in the world. Let’s kep it that way!
74. Linda Cain | May 11, 2008 at 11:32 am
If the city council passes this ill-conceived ordinance, it will forever be known as “The Day the Music Died.” Throughout its history, Chicago has been world-renowned for its music and culture. I would respectfully ask that the elected officials reconsider and vote against this Promoter’s Ordinance which will surely damage our wonderful music scene beyond repair.
Linda Cain
Publisher/Managing Editor
Chicago Blues Guide
75. Harv Mayerowicz | May 11, 2008 at 11:33 am
Someone hasn’t thought this out. Dear City Council,
please do not kill the gestation grounds for new, creative artistic enterprises that makes Chicago Chicaago and not Indianapolis.
Thank you,
Harv Mayerowicz
(not a youth anymore, but a Baby Boomer, athough I’m mostly boomed out)
76. Tiffani Hillin | May 11, 2008 at 11:57 am
This is an insult to the human soul. Nothing can justify this and it must be stopped.
77. Meghan O'Connell | May 11, 2008 at 11:59 am
Please add me to the petition.
78. The Kids | May 11, 2008 at 12:08 pm
Think about the effects of this in the long term.
Because smaller bands/promoters can’t afford to pay, few new acts/promoters will be able to establish themselves, effectively leaving us with only big-name, corporate-sponsored events now and especially in the future.
Please, please don’t let it happen. Do it for the kids who thrive on tiny shows and unknown bands, the ones in bands themselves.
Don’t push them all out to different corners of the suburbs.
79. distinctivecoaching | May 11, 2008 at 12:09 pm
Here’s the Sun-Times article on the matter: http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/938133,nightweb050808.article
But there may be a larger picture to the performing arts and civil liberties at stake here.
I can see this new ordinance not only limiting promoting of concerts but also opening the door to hindering small theatrical and performing arts events, recreational and cultural festivals, and educational and professional development classes, workshops and activities.
How does this potential law define “event promoter” and “venue”?
Where does that line get drawn that inhibits our right to free speech that facilitates our right to assemble, for cultural or civil purposes?
Please do not let this ordinance pass, and help secure and continue Chicago’s diverse, proud cultural offerings.
Sincerely,
Jason Rosado
Business Coach and Owner
Distinctive Coaching
80. Jen Porter | May 11, 2008 at 12:27 pm
As a working musician in Chicago it would be a complete shame to see this ordinance passed. Chicago has systematically been giving up their pleasures for “progress”. New condos continue to overrun downtown and put good restaurants and bars out of business, never to be heard from again, replaced by a Starbucks and a Chipotle.
PLEASE DON’T TAKE AWAY OUR THRIVING CULTURAL SCENE – IT”S ALL WE HAVE LEFT!!!
81. Marty Ryczek | May 11, 2008 at 12:28 pm
This ordinance will not improve safety for club patrons, but it will hurt Chicago’s culture and economy. So who is going to benefit?
82. Matthew Cummings | May 11, 2008 at 12:35 pm
Chicago is known as the worlds capital of the underground arts culture. It seems to me the city wants in on the action and in doing so they will destroy it. This ordinance is a capitalistic perversion. The city is praying on people who can barely make rent, and rarely make any money off their art. Believe me they pay plenty in taxes to the city in the 4 other jobs they have.
83. Dana Bloom | May 11, 2008 at 12:48 pm
The Arts/Culture in Chicago need more freedom not more rules. Chicago needs to encourage artistic expression, and find new ways to fund it, not look for ways to stifle it with unnecessary rules and unfair charges. We need creative people in The City Council .
Say it isn’t so.
84. Betty Dayron | May 11, 2008 at 12:52 pm
It’s scary to think what could really happen if the city council rubber stamped this overly broad piece of legislation and it was enforced..
Please… slow down and consider the potential damage to the cultural life of the city… slow down and construct legislation, if you must, that solves some of the existing problems without creating gigantic new ones..
85. Desiree Irwin | May 11, 2008 at 12:58 pm
This is absurd. The reality of what artists do is obviously misunderstood by The City Council.
86. nik wielgus | May 11, 2008 at 1:04 pm
how could you even think that this would help the city? most of the showcase venues/bars/cafes income is from bands/artists and they are setup by the artists themselves…so no setup, no show, no money, end of business. This will effectively kill the fragile state of Chicago’s new found economy. Performing arts are the second highest (non big-business) prophet to come into the city, so to not have that is a blow to all you know and love about the city. Not to many tourists want to stick around if all the see is a couple of tall buildings and a fountain. All the little guys that cannot book shows will; have to form “new underground venues” where there will be no city revenue or license tax or security or safe shows!!
What about the artistes how make a living off of the scene in the city how can they afford to live here any more with no income from there profession. Most will have to move and that will kill the economy even faster. You should really take another look at the vagueness of this proposition and do a rewrite on this before it’s to late !
87. patricia kovar | May 11, 2008 at 1:05 pm
Please do not permit this ordinance. Chicago is well-known world-over for it’s theatrical, musical, comedic creative theatre that is locally created and produced.
Pat Kovar
88. Brian Toth | May 11, 2008 at 1:33 pm
Well folks once again we need to follow the money trail. I’m sure that this is no different than when your vaunted thieving government put many of people out of work and inconvenienced others by closing Meigs Field. There are dozens of highly talented artists who will be put out of work by this ordinance and Chicago will become a creative ghost town. At first only the artists/musicians will be gone, but eventually the city’s economy will suffer, not only will the artists and musicians suffer, so will the clubs and the surrounding restaurants. All in the name of lining a few individual pockets.
Don’t do it Chicago!
89. David Leonardis | May 11, 2008 at 1:38 pm
Sounds to me like a bunch of fat cats that need to justify being overpaid by taxing the people that bring culture to the city.
Culture is supposed to be more important than corruption.
And while you’re at it all the people that are trying to save the music here need to buy some art and that will bring this whole situation some good luck.
Art collectors are better more well rounded luckier people. It’s a fact.
Put your money where your mouth is. I know I do.
You know who you are.
90. Gretchen Hasse | May 11, 2008 at 2:11 pm
PLEASE, realize that the vibrant, independent art scene is one of the things that keeps Chicago on the map. It is the main reason many neighborhoods have developed so rapidly in the past 20 years. Why would you want to kill something that nurtures so much good? If this measure is passed, Chicago would have no original, interesting performing arts to lure the curious and discriminating. No reason for creative, vibrant people to put down roots here. This ordinance is insanity.
91. Jordon P{opp | May 11, 2008 at 2:18 pm
As a musician trying to make a living playing music, doing this is basically killing my dream, and the dreams of thousands of artists.
92. Richard Wood | May 11, 2008 at 2:23 pm
This Is Bogus
93. Lily Wilcock | May 11, 2008 at 2:39 pm
If you didn’t think we are living in a police state before, you can’t deny it now. This is disgusting, to think people might go to jail for having a concert, or promoting an event is absolutely disgusting.
94. Colleen Sterling | May 11, 2008 at 2:44 pm
This is madness!! I really enjoy all the oportunities the city has to offer and this would definetley stifle the culture, music and art scene! We need to get the silver shovel out for the bozo that would like to institute this ordinance!!
Please count me in with the vote against this.
95. Brit | May 11, 2008 at 3:00 pm
I’m disgusted.
96. Brenda Bouschard | May 11, 2008 at 3:03 pm
I spent 15 years in Chicago working as an entertainer, and I can’t imagine what the City Council is thinking to try and pass such an ordinance as this! In a city I thought really embraced the cultured arts, I find it deplorable, at the same time amazing, that this Chicago City Council could even remotely consider an act that would snuff out the city’s legitimate entertainment scene further than it has already. NO, absolutely NOT, to this proposed ordinance! Looks to me like an attempt to bleed more money out of people already struggling in the first place who can’t afford it, and in the longrun NOTHING will be accomplished. Instead, a continued deterioration of the facade that the City of Chicago actually CARES about entertainment there. I think not. I lived there, I know what they’ve done to live entertainment over the last 20 years, and the City of Chicago should be ashamed of itself for squelching the Arts like it has. STOP IT, ALREADY!
97. Cheyenne Pinson | May 11, 2008 at 3:11 pm
as if it isn’t hard enough to get by as a performer in the city! LET CREATIVE VOICES SPEAK! mainstream acts are NOT what makes chicago’s cultural scene what it is. don’t let this pass!!
98. Nick Vandevelde | May 11, 2008 at 3:21 pm
Stand up for the people who aren’t able to afford $500 a gig, lets continue to have Chicago as a place for new artists so be heard and discovered. That won’t happen if promoters can’t afford to book a band or a solo artist can’t pay the fee….on top of all the other costs of being a musician.
99. TRJM | May 11, 2008 at 4:07 pm
This ordinance is a disaster! We cannot let it pass!
TRJM
100. Matt Cramer LSW | May 11, 2008 at 4:10 pm
I’ve lived in Chicago most of my life, and intend to stay here. This is my town and I love it! But when I read this ordinance I think: “Will Chicago go from being Someplace…to just Anyplace!”
I urge all members of the Chicago City Council to re-consider this ordinance and far reaching consequences it will have on dampening the spirit and creative energy of our fair city.
101. cheryl szucsits | May 11, 2008 at 4:23 pm
How could a mass exodus out of the city of some of the most talented artists in the nation at the passing of this ordinance possiby be beneficial? That’s exactly what will happen if this is passed. The economy cannot be sustained by “mainstream” alone… nor should that be the only option available. Not to mention that mainstream is not what made this city the cultural mecca it is… you’ll be destroying the proud legacy of live entertainment that helped make this city famous and continues to make it a beautiful, colorful and creative tapestry. And now they’re threatening to destroy the very foundation of Chicago’s cultural scene. I came here because this is a city that supposedly prides itself on and embraces it’s artistic culture at every level. Well, the heart and soul of the cultural community does feel that way… how sad, how very sad that the ones making this absurd ordinance apparently haven’t a clue what that means.
This ordinance is a huge, HUGE mistake! DO NOT SILENCE THE CREATIVITY!!
102. Chicago Music Project | May 11, 2008 at 4:23 pm
As a supporter of all things Chicago and Chicago music, the Chicago Music Project proudly stands against this ordinance. Chicago is the sleeping giant of the music industry. Passing this wold kill it before it wakes.
103. Brandon Warrick | May 11, 2008 at 4:27 pm
As someone that makes their living from performing original music i see this ordinance as a threat to not only my livelihood, but my freedom of speech as well. Please vote no on this ordinance that will cripple creativity in chicago and destroy a local music scene that many other cities throughout the world only wish to have!!
104. Eric Nielsen | May 11, 2008 at 4:32 pm
If you plan on just complaining, it won’t work — you need valid reasons for the city to listen.
In the end, this will be terrible for the city of Chicago, but not necessarily for musicians. Artists will continue to play, just not in Chicago, which will result in less revenue for the city.
See you guys in the suburbs!
105. Perry Bax | May 11, 2008 at 4:48 pm
Perhaps the subtext to this will be revealed some day, as it is obviously serving someone who is lurking in the shadows upstairs protecting their large empire from the mortals who might also like to play the game . . .
Perry Bax/Chicago
The Best Radio You Have Never Heard
http://www.bestradiopodcast.com
106. Andrew Jewell | May 11, 2008 at 5:00 pm
As a resident of the outer Chicagoland suburbs I am again appalled at the City of Chicago’s resiliency in practice of sheer incompetence
107. Marci A. Rolnik | May 11, 2008 at 5:00 pm
The proposed legislation adds an untenable level of hassle and expense to the already challenging effort for Chicago’s local music scene to publicize performances. Take your average starting five man band. Odds are that the band members are in their early twenties and, at best, leave each show with a hundred bucks or so in pocket. Most have never met with an attorney nor do they see the need for it.
It is hard enough to get bands to recognize that they are in business and that they have a host of legal matters to get under control. Is the city suggesting that we penalize them for passing out cds and hand bills and going online to tell their fans to come out for their shows?
Are we now going to label these artists “promoters” and require that the band, its members, street team, personal manager, tour manager, booking agent, promoter and/or publicist all obtain a license simply to tell the public about an upcoming performance?
This only adds another layer of red tape to making it as a band. It is hard enough to get noticed now that anyone can record an album and put it online. We are saturated with music, and as a result, getting fans to come to shows has become an art form in itself.
What is the criteria to obtain the license? What if it is denied? Are we really telling performing artists that they can’t tell their friends and fans to come see them on stage in the event that the venue has a capacity range that falls within the purview of the law?
Right now we have more and more promising bands in Chicago and some serious momentum. The Chicago Music Commission has provided some unity, and we have reports from a recent University of Chicago study, documenting substantial revenue and jobs generated by the Chicago music economy.
This law will put a dent in our potential to grow as an entertainment city. I do not support the current draft and hope that the city council reconsiders the target group and definition of promoter, which as it stands, is far too broad.
Marci A. Rolnik
mrolnik@law-arts.org
108. Monica Leigh | May 11, 2008 at 5:08 pm
This ordinance would stifle so much creativity in this great city of ours. We need to keep our arts scene the way it is! Please vote against this.
Monica Leigh
lead singer of Reel Jem
109. Jeff Churchwell | May 11, 2008 at 5:08 pm
Chicago, Don’t Punish mE2.
Does the Chicago City Council seriously believe that handcuffing legitimate music promoters and, by extension, the musicians they are trying to promote, will have the intended effect of stopping the underground raves and the willful breaking of existing laws by people who’s only interest is making a buck while risking lives? Is the City Council simply trying to assuage five years worth of guilt over E2, without taking into account the hundreds of events annually that are promoted and held legally and responsibly, bringing legitimate revenue streams into City coffers without breaking that backs of those who provide it? Can the City logically claim that the proposed ordinance will benefit more people than it harms?
The clear answer to all of these questions is “NO.”
So, tell the City, “NO!” We must keep this ordinance, and it’s draconian methods and proposals, off the books.
Chicago, don’t punish mE2.
Jeff Churchwell
Hawk From A Handsaw
110. A Taxpaying Citizen | May 11, 2008 at 5:31 pm
Since the taxpayers of this city were not given an opportunity
to publicly respond to this backdoor political maneuver, let
our voices be heard now. Stop this ordinance. The people
have spoken.
111. Christopher Todd Durnil | May 11, 2008 at 5:38 pm
As one who promoted the local music scene in Chicago for six years, I find this act by the city government to be a JOKE! First of all, rarely do venues pay bands much more than the bare minimum, which doesn’t even come close to the amount the city is asking per event. So who’s to cover these charges? The venues? That ain’t gonna happen!!! And the promoter? Well, after spending money to promote the shows, there’s next to nothing (and I mean NOTHING) left – so why would I shell out more to the city??? The whole concept is INSANE!!!
Once again, I guess this is the price you have to pay to live in a corrupt city. I’m glad I moved – maybe now the downstate scene will thrive!
F*ck the city of Chicago!
112. lisa danielson | May 11, 2008 at 5:59 pm
as a local chicago musician and music fan, i am appalled that chicago would even consider such a thing. the local music scene is part of what makes chicago what it is. people here love live music. i love live music…and i love performing for other people. i would love to have more information about signing this petition and making sure this doesn’t happen to this wonderful city.
113. Zach Weinberg | May 11, 2008 at 6:04 pm
This news comes at a most upsetting time. In the last few months it seems like the independent DIY (Do it yourself) scene in Chicago has become stronger than ever before! This legislation will only effect small time independent promoters that are actually working to provide a vibrant music scene for our city, and not the ones that run music as if it were a business! This is a direct assault against the “little guy”, hindering mostly the independent/underground scene, which has made a name for itself in Chicago. This will ruin a culture that is much prided in our city.
Zach Weinberg
Musician/DIY Supporter
Radio DePaul
114. Carl Dabrowski | May 11, 2008 at 6:08 pm
This ordinance is compleatly insane! It will cause a lot of buisness to just up and disapear! Chicago has always been known for its great local misic scene. How can these bands be heard if the promoters have to jump through hoops just to made it possible? How about you stick to getting gangs off the street, drug dealers behind bars, AND LEAVE OUT MUSIC ALONE!!! Im glad to hear that the Chicago goverment has its priorities straight!!!
115. Melissa Brown | May 11, 2008 at 6:12 pm
This is grossly unfair to everyone who works in the entertainment industry in any way! With the economy being what it is, everyone is already struggling just to make ends meet. Is the city of Chicago trying to put every bar and nightclub, as well as every entertainer and marketing person completely put of business now?
116. Alan Carter | May 11, 2008 at 6:16 pm
Does Chicago still want to be called the second city? With ordinances like this, it won’t even make the top ten. The arts, especially music, are a vital, absolutely necessary part of our culture. A society that suppresses artistic freedom through bureaucratic ineptitude is well on the road to oblivion.
117. mickey | May 11, 2008 at 6:21 pm
As a local musician i find this truely disturbing, venues and music are already on the decline, this might be the death of some classic venues and the praised arts of chicago.
for some reason i doubt the council will listen to the people who this will hurt. they will pass this as a law, screwing over an entire culture, but im sure their bank accounts will make them happy.
for an aweosme city chicago sure sucks at helping the people who live here.
118. Ami (Destined Apostle Vocals) | May 11, 2008 at 6:29 pm
As a musician, I am appalled at this ordinance. Its hard enough to find places to play at and to find promoters who don’t screw you over on your payment. I have played countless shows without pay because of crooked promoters. Our band has opted to book our own shows and keep our scene pure and about the music. Promoters ruin a lot of good things when it comes to bands who play on the smaller circuit in bars. If this ordinance passes, it will be a very gloomy day for Chicago music. I bet it will get to the point where there aren’t any bands signed from Chicago because it will be impossible for us to play. Promoters in Chicago generally shy away from certain types of music. Passing this ordinance is unfair to musicians.
119. Jeanne T. Arrigo | May 11, 2008 at 6:46 pm
As both a nonequity actor working with some of the finest small theatres in town, and as an independent singer-songwriter playing gigs of original music at small listening venues, the possibility of this ordinance passing SCARES ME TO DEATH!
How can the small, independent artist or small (read: “living on a shoestring budget and depending on art-loving audiences) theatre companies survive if this ordinance passes? Isn’t Chicago known for it’s diversity of culture, it’s cutting-edge artistic vision? How can this be continued if all that is left is “Broadway-In-Chicago,” Steppenwolf and Goodman, and national touring bands at thousand-seat venues? No offense to any of them – they are ALSO needed for artistic diversity – but the hidden gems of art are generally found in the grassroots, with those who are doing new, innovative things by following their hearts and souls. These are the artists who can DO this, b/c they are not yet beholden to corporate interests, or huge producing/booking houses/agencies.
Listen to some of our greatest artists whom I’ve quoted below, and don’t let the creativity and vision of those who would offer great art to the city on a small scale, suffer b/c they do not have huge venues or backers!!!
“The purpose of art is washing the dust of daily life off our souls.”
Pablo Picasso
“The object of art is to give life a shape.”
William Shakespeare
“Without art, the crudeness of reality would make the world unbearable.”
George Bernard Shaw
and most important, in light of my point:
“All great deeds and all great thoughts have a ridiculous beginning. Great works are often born on a street corner or in a restaurant’s revolving door.”
Albert Camus
PLEASE do not limit the diversity of creativity in Chicago by forcing an unreasonable, UNNECESSARY, and wholly outrageous fee on performers who will not be able to afford this, and therefore will not be able to share their art. THE ENTIRE CITY WILL SUFFER!!!
Believing that you will make the right decision -
Jeanne T. Arrigo
http://www.jeannetarrigo.com
120. Scott OKen | May 11, 2008 at 7:13 pm
That this is even being considered is unconscionable! Do you really want to stifle and destroy one of the things that makes this city one of the best in the nation? Do you really want to destroy people’s lives and liveleyhoods? Passing this ordinance will be one of the biggest mistakes in the history of this city. Don’t do it!
121. Mark Taylor | May 11, 2008 at 7:13 pm
this is the most outrageous thing ive ever seen! i pray that we are heard and this ridiculous ordinance doesnt see the light of day. disgusting.
122. Donna Frost | May 11, 2008 at 7:15 pm
I can’t believe what I have been reading. It’s mindboggling to think this BS is happening in Chicago! I’m a touring musician based out of Nashville and I play in Chicago several times a year. It breaks my heart to see the idiots in charge being such mercenaries. I have always thought that Chicago had such a cool music scene. Playing in Chicago and hanging out with Chicago musicians is always so uplifting to me.
To think artists and clubs are going to have to pay through the nose to present live music is outrageous. We already have a hard enough time out here trying to make a living doing what we love and the ever rising costs of gas makes it even more difficult. You are killing the arts, killing the soul of the city. I can assure you, we will not go quietly.
123. Dara Allen-Trainer | May 11, 2008 at 7:18 pm
The whole reason I moved to Chicago was the “storefront arts scene”. Eliminating this part of Chicago’s culture will destroy the city’s economy…and spirit.
124. Matt Sobczyk | May 11, 2008 at 7:23 pm
Go to: http://www.ci.chi.il.us:80/city/webportal/portalProgramAction.do?BV_SessionID=@@@@0477296502.1210555116@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccceadeedhehhhjcefecelldffhdfhl.0&programId=536879154&channelId=-536879035&topChannelName=Government, it lists aldermen by ward. You can click on your alderman’s name to get phone, address and e-mail. Let them know which side of this issue you are on. I believe Ald. Barnett is the sponsor of this bill, no matter what ward you live in, he should hear from you. I not only voted for my alderman, I displayed his signage on my property and intend to remind him of my support. Let’s fill up those mailboxes.
125. chris | May 11, 2008 at 7:35 pm
as if the music industry in this country isn’t bad enough? without the local and semi/national bands you would have nickelback! I like chad just fine but really, thats the only choice in rock?
126. Jaime | May 11, 2008 at 7:43 pm
Doesn’t the city council have anything better to do? This is ridiculous.
127. Andrew Madden | May 11, 2008 at 8:04 pm
if this law were passed, it would be similar to the idea of me losing the use of my arms; i could still learn to live my life, but it would never be the same. having worked, played, and been a patron in so many of these venues over the past 7 years, i have experienced so much joy and life and vibrance that i couldn’t imagine my life without it. if this really passed, chicago would no longer be one of the greatest cities in the world. stop the stupity and squash this extremely cruel joke into the ground. don’t take away the freedom to enjoy life.
128. TK | May 11, 2008 at 8:05 pm
This is ridiculous and will make it so no one can perform in Chicago anymore. IT will never get passed. E2 is to blame for this plain and simple.
129. Cassie | May 11, 2008 at 8:07 pm
Please do not ruin what I–and so many others–have and will continue to hold so dear to our hearts…the Chicago music scene…
130. Stephen Di Cicco | May 11, 2008 at 8:12 pm
Limiting the distribution and performance of art would not only be detremental to the culture of Chicago, but it would also destroy young artists the opprotunity to have a launching pad to be recognized. This in turn would create even more frustration and dull down the outlet for our local artist to pursue their dreams… and the peoples right to hear, see, taste and smell what Chicago artists and entertainers have to offer. The beautiful thing about true art of any kind is that corporations, city officals, and police officers are not involved in it. Mine as well hand Clear Channel a city key while you are at it. Leave us alone.
131. Jill Dawson | May 11, 2008 at 8:15 pm
So disheartening!! This is an example of a law where the originally intent is lost, and the unintended innocent are paying a hugh price. Musicians and performing artists already invest so much to pursuing their passions, most barely making ends meet as it is. Those brave enough to take this journey do not deserve to be penalized. The city will also suffer a great loss, with no doubt artists packing up and taking their crafts elsewhere … Chicagoans missing out on the soul-inspiring experience of live music & performance in it’s most organic states! Please stop this!
132. Tony Jones | May 11, 2008 at 8:16 pm
This simply can’t happen.
133. Kristin Mack | May 11, 2008 at 8:18 pm
unbelievable, with everything going up in price already, now entertainment? And where will up-and-coming bands play? we all enjoy music in different ways. We dont all want to go to expensive, crowded venues all the time and Im sure bands like playing formore intimate crowds too. Stop the ordinance!
134. Elizabeth Bagby | May 11, 2008 at 8:22 pm
One of the greatest parts of Chicago is its storefront arts scene. I moved here ten years ago for the theater community, have worked steadily since then, and have constantly been in awe at the talent and inventiveness of the artists here. It’s a safe bet that many of these opportunities simply would not have existed for me and these other artists if such an ordinance had been in place.
Make no mistake, it’s punishing. Almost no one makes a full-time living from theater here (no more than 20 actors, by one teacher’s estimate). We’re all doing this because we love it, and because the city’s a hotbed of talent–we all learn from each other. Most of us have day jobs and grueling schedules. On top of that, those of us with small theater companies have hours of unpaid administrative work, dealing with other Chicago restrictions like PPA licenses. Another pointless licensing requirement with a prohibitive fee could be enough to make quite a few talented artists throw up their hands and move to New York.
But beyond the personal impact to the thousands of us who make art, Chicago needs to think seriously about the fact that people move to a city–and spend their money there–because they perceive it has a creative culture. If your Friday-night choices are limited to the same multiplex movies and ClearChannel bands you could find in the suburbs, what’s to stop you from moving to the suburbs, where the rent is lower anyway? This is the sort of thing that slowly kills a city.
135. Holly Shapiro | May 11, 2008 at 8:29 pm
Small venues offer emerging artists a chance to get their music heard and start building a reputation and audience.
136. Nick Digilio | May 11, 2008 at 8:38 pm
This is outrageous! Absurd. and downright idiotic. It can NOT happen and I will do anything within my power to make sure people get involved and protest this nonsense, and stop it from happening.. I have a radio show on WGN and you can bet your butt I will be talking about this tonight, spreading the word and causing a ruckus.
137. Tracy | May 11, 2008 at 8:44 pm
This is crazy!!!!! They just want to make life more difficult and expensive!!!
138. Jamie Gallagher - Andreas Kapsalis Trio | May 11, 2008 at 9:03 pm
Does this mean that my band can’t promote a show at a small/medium sized venue without a license? I’m not sure I completely understand all the ins-and-outs of this ordinance, but this great city houses THOUSANDS OF ARTISTS, and we shouldn’t have to deal with any more B.S. as it stands, especially if we currently engage in D.Y.I. methods of promo.
139. Adam Starodub | May 11, 2008 at 9:09 pm
Chicago’s music scene has long been regarded as one of the best, and that is because of the many options artists have within the city. By placing unrealistic expectations to put together an entertaining show, you not only stifle the careers of many aspiring artists, but also leave many people with one less thing to do.
With so much concern about out kids out on the streets killing each other, it seems counterproductive to put into motion an ordinance that could possibly lead to more of those children wandering streets doing things they shouldn’t. Attending a show is a great community feeling, and is greatly needed in this city at this time. Passing this ordinance would greatly jeopardize the safety of many of this city’s youth.
140. Sara | May 11, 2008 at 9:25 pm
I read this and felt ill. As an actor within this city, one of the most unique things we have is our bountiful Storefront Theatre community. Please PLEASE do not vote to destroy something that you should be proud of. The arts within the city of Chicago is a part of what makes us great.
Do NOT pass this ordinance…
141. Kimberly Johnson | May 11, 2008 at 9:31 pm
After reading about this ordinance, I believe not only is it hurting both your local artists and business owners, but this will be very detrimental to the economy. This will effect both the economy and the culture of Chicago. Chicago has been a mainstay and breeding ground for musicians, artists, comedians on both a local level and a national level to build careers and their art. The new ordinance would create a huge financial burden on the budding talent of the future and I believe would force these people to find alternate places to cultivate what Chicago was once known for cultivating. I truly hope that the Council reconsiders just what passing this ordinance would do to this city.
142. Paul | May 11, 2008 at 9:31 pm
You should be ashamed of yourselves. You are supposed to be a government for the people and yet all you ever do is serve the vulturous big businesses. This is just a way to try and make it harder for individuals to perform and promote themselves. If this is voted in I think we should sue both the city and any company associated with this. That is the only way these swine pay any attention, They are taking away our freedoms, and I am sure there are plenty of lawyers who would love to jump on that circus.
143. Chas Vrba- Factory Theater | May 11, 2008 at 9:33 pm
This is a hit that the Chicago simply can’t take. A bad idea for an ordinance that would simply stifle a very creative and prolific community.
144. Erik Childress | May 11, 2008 at 9:36 pm
Did the offspring of Mola Ram come up with this ridiculous ordinance? Don’t let them tear the heart out of this wonderful city we call Chicago!
145. Ryan Keller | May 11, 2008 at 9:36 pm
This would be an enormous tragedy!! How about we focus on more important things such as Chicago’s increasing murder rate.
146. Karen Forshall | May 11, 2008 at 9:37 pm
This is absolutel disgusting. One of the reasons I love living in the city of Chicago is the fact we have such a love for the arts. Being a young want-to-be actor myself, this hurts. A city with such an artistic past doing somethign like this? I’m dissapointed.
147. Tim | May 11, 2008 at 9:39 pm
As a lifelong Chicagoan who has enjoyed shows at small theaters here in the city, this has me deeply concerned. All of the things that make this city so special and unique are disappearing. Please don’t let this happen.
Tim
148. Austin | May 11, 2008 at 9:39 pm
This is so stupid!! Shutting down these small venues will not only put artists out in the cold, but production companies. Sound, lighting, video, etc… will not have as much gigs to do if this happens. These venues alow smaller and underground bands a chance to get their music out there. If there are no small venues, small bands will no longer have a chance. This can’t happen!!
149. tony m. | May 11, 2008 at 9:40 pm
what is my incentive to come into the city and spend my suburban money if so many creative and artistic venues are taken away…
this sounds like another short sighted idea that can only cause regret !!
150. Richard Dahl | May 11, 2008 at 9:43 pm
This makes no sense!!We should be expandingour arts base ,not closing it up.Vote this down!!!
151. mike | May 11, 2008 at 9:43 pm
this would keep thousands of people from displaying their creativity in this ciy. also it would keep many of us from seeing very good musical and theatrical shows. it would be a total disgrace for the city of chicago if this was approved.
152. Heather | May 11, 2008 at 9:44 pm
What is this city thinking? We just had Looptopia, which is an amazing event that celebrates so much of the culture of this city. Yet this law would affect these same people!!!! C’mon Chicago, think about what you’re doing!
153. Paul Gizel | May 11, 2008 at 9:45 pm
When you limit the city of Chicago to a few venues you are removing the blood and soul of of it’s culture. In other terms, you make it generic by stripping it of what makes Chicago such a memorable place.
154. Thom Cox | May 11, 2008 at 9:46 pm
This seems to me to be about revenue for the city under the guise of public safety, kindof like the seasonal speed limit changes on Lake Shore Drive. There must be businesses which have greater net profits to tax and which do not serve as diverse and wide-reaching a demographic as do the performing arts. Surely there are better ways to raise revenue than driving small arts organizations out of business in favor of artistic homogenization and control.
155. Joanne Liberman | May 11, 2008 at 9:47 pm
Event Promoters ordiance is the most outrageous bill that I have heard of in a long time. This is a bill
that MUST NOT be passed. Chicago is too important to have an ordiance such as this. Please inform all City Council members about my concern about this issue.
Thank you
Joanne Liberman
156. Mike Felten | May 11, 2008 at 9:48 pm
This lunacy is not only a strike against the culture of the city, but another blow at independent small business (how many small storefronts are for rent?)With the amount of sales tax that we have to pay and the diminshing diversity – there is going to be less and less of a reason to spend our dollars anywhere in Chicago. A Home Depot, Best Buy or Costco is the same outside of the city limits as within them and cheaper. You should be aiding and assisting every music venue and theater you can instead of giving them cause to move.
The tragedy at the unlicensed E2 was due to a police department and a city government allowing it to operate unsafely. Maybe we should license and tax the graft and corruption and let the rest of us try to make an honest dollar
157. Collin S | May 11, 2008 at 9:48 pm
So, tell me, what was the point of Looptopia? That was a free event comprised (mostly) of local artists who normally struggle to achieve 1% of the audience they had in the streets a couple weeks ago. So, what? Use these people to lure in the tourists and suburbanites and then turn around and slap these artists in the face with an ordinance they can’t possibly adhere to? It’s shameless and wrong-headed in every way.
When I have friends in from out of town, I don’t take them to see bloated Broadway shows they can watch on DVD. I take them to the Double Door, the Neo-Futurarium and any out-of-the-way venue that is unique to our city. These smaller venues are every bit as valuable to our city as anything on State Street, if not more. This ordinance must not happen.
158. Pete | May 11, 2008 at 9:48 pm
I travel out of the country often and whenever I tell People I’m from Chicago, they almost always say how lucky I am to be in such a beatiful City with the diverse Music and Arts that are available to me. Passing this law is a mistake. This law will stifle, and perhaps prohibit some, if not all, of the up and coming Artists of our time and even our children’s time.
159. Chris | May 11, 2008 at 9:48 pm
Leave well enough alone. Chicago is made up of a patchwork of neighborhoods. Each neighborhood has its own identity which is voice by the small venues of that particular hood. It won’t matter that the CTA can’t get you any place in a timely matter if there isn’t any place to go to.
160. Kevin | May 11, 2008 at 9:48 pm
This ordinance is an utterly ridiculous and disturbing idea!
161. L Solarz | May 11, 2008 at 9:49 pm
The purpose of this ordinance appears to be to generate money, as usual. But has the Council thought this through? Such an ordinance could cause a serious drop in attendance to the city’s smaller venues, and consequently hotels, restaurants, and other businesses that benefit from theatre/nightlife would suffer. Rather than generate income this ordinance will potentially mean the loss of revenue for the city. And its rising reputation for attracting unique, quality independent productions would soon fade.
162. Tom | May 11, 2008 at 9:49 pm
This ordinance is terrible and a blatant attempt to extort more money out of the citizens of Chicago and fatten the pockets of the corrupt politicians who rule this town with an iron fist.
It’s disgusting when I think about City of Chicago taking hard earned money to feed waste and political corruption. Find another way to creatively extort more money out of your citizens Daley. Tax some more water if you have to.
163. Kirk Wonio | May 11, 2008 at 9:51 pm
Please use common sense and realize that you will criple the local music scene. Chicago will NOT be the same if this ordinance passes. So please help to keep Chicago strong.
164. Victoria Carter | May 11, 2008 at 9:54 pm
All I go to is local music events… to take this away would be like taking the lake away, taking the sports life away, taking chicagos soul away. THIS ORDINANCE CANNOT BE PASSED!
165. Frank Coronado | May 11, 2008 at 9:54 pm
How dare Chicago call itself a world-class city when it can seriously consider enacting such idiocy and cultural suicide.
166. Erik Childress | May 11, 2008 at 9:57 pm
Did the offspring of Mola Ram suddenly take over the City Council? Do NOT let them tear the heart out of this wonderful city we call Chicago!
167. Christian Munoz | May 11, 2008 at 9:57 pm
Stop the Promoter’s Ordinance and Save Local Bands and Theater!
168. Katelyn S. | May 11, 2008 at 9:58 pm
Every day, it seems, Chicago loses another part of its identity: our important manufacturers leave, our iconic companies are sold and our landmarks are razed and replaced with cookie-cutter condos.
Perhaps the last, best hope for Chicago is our healthy performance scene — places like the Double Door, the Athenaeum, the Metro, and the list goes on.
As a person trying her best to carve out a career in a creative field in Chicago, I am grateful to be surrounded by these venues and the culture they support. If this ordinance is approved, I see no reason for these venues to stay in Chicago — and I, in turn, see no reason to stay in Chicago. I will follow the musicians, writers, actors and artists to LA or New York, or at least go north to Milwaukee — a city our own, I fear, will soon emulate. But hey, at least the rent is lower there.
169. Paul Lyons | May 11, 2008 at 9:58 pm
I think this law is wonderful. It makes sure that people who don’t belong in our city stay out. These “musicians” and “entertainers” think they can just create art any place, any time. But now we can force those people into going through the proper channels. They must submit to the will of the Chicago Police with fingerprinting and background check. After all, these are the people who are pushing drugs and alcohol on our youth! They’re criminals from the get-go. And if they think they’re going to do a show without asking the city and paying, they’ve got another thing coming! You can’t just do whatever you want!! You MUST at ALL TIMES have the consent and permission of the government. The only way to ensure a secure society is to stamp out all the possibilities of trouble brewing. And everyone knows: Unregulated art and music is the work of the devil!!!
170. David Kim | May 11, 2008 at 9:59 pm
I love this city, but the longer I live here, the more it infuriates me.
171. Janet Nicholas | May 11, 2008 at 9:59 pm
I live downstate but have lived in the Chicago area and many times enjoyed the smaller theater venues more than the bigger ones. This cannot happen. It just shows those who are running things have not a clue about the theater and music scene in the city. Just another way to squeeze money out of the ordinary citizen.
172. Ken Rozanski | May 11, 2008 at 10:01 pm
If the City has legitimate concerns about public safety at events, this should be addressed by enforcing existing safety regulations.
This sounds like just another way to sneak a new tax through. I am very concerned that this ordinance will put an unreasonable burden on the artistic community, and that it may eliminate many of the great cultural offerings which makes Chicago unique.
173. David Rocco Facchini | May 11, 2008 at 10:02 pm
This desperate and predatory proposal, is a slap in the face of the arts community. If passed, this will not only financially devastate creatives but also patrons of their venues. It means death to the independent and aspiring artists in this city. If the City of Chicago endorses the arts community, touting Maggie Daley as it’s staunchest advocate of the arts, then the response will be against this assanine bill. How many ways does the City of Chicago have to milk the fiscal life-blood out of its’ citizens before they respond? I’m disgusted by whomever the authors of this bill are. How do we find this out who is on this committee? I hope they get run out of town on a rail…
174. Jen C. | May 11, 2008 at 10:02 pm
If the City Council passes this ordinance, Chicago will lose its right to call itself a world-class city.
175. Will Riley | May 11, 2008 at 10:09 pm
I am a fourteen-year-old company member of the Cornservatory, a not-for-profit 46-seat theater that would be pushed to the brink of extinction by this ordinance. I have grown up around my fellow company members. They have been like a second family to me. I don’t know what I would do without them. And yet, all that is about to be taken away. And something is about to be taken away from the many Lincoln Square area families who thank us show after show for providing children’s theater at cheap prices to those who don’t have many other entertainment options. And those adults who come out for our mainstage shows. We are constantly being told how much people appreciate us being there. These are the kind of personal stories that I would encourage the City Council to consider before voting. This bill will effectively ruin their constituent’s lives. So, with that in mind, I hope they will have the sense to vote Nay on Wednesday.
176. Steve | May 11, 2008 at 10:09 pm
This has to be some sort of sick joke.
Tax and regulate the best things about Chicago out of existence?
I’m fairly convinced everyone on the city council who supports this law is secretly working for the tourism bureaus of other Midwestern cities. I mean, that has to be it. Is there any other explanation for this sort of idiocy?
177. Lacy Coil | May 11, 2008 at 10:10 pm
This is absolutely, unequivocally, a ridiculous proposition. Self-produced theater and performance is what makes Chicago unique and vibrant. Without the foundation of storefront theater, every other theater in this town would fall. Virtually no actors would work, no original work would be produced.
178. vanessa | May 11, 2008 at 10:11 pm
what the hell?!! what do they want chicago to become?? this ordinance is ridiculous! if this passes then so many performers won’t perform, which means nobody will go see any performances, which means lost money, which means eventually this adds to the downfall of the economy. chicago will go down!! oh noo!!!
add my name to the list.
179. James P. | May 11, 2008 at 10:11 pm
I’ve always loved Chicago for its great arts programs. If this passes, I’ll move this year.
180. Linda Taylor | May 11, 2008 at 10:11 pm
I live in Evanston, but I enjoy going to chicago for entertainment. If this ordianance is passed it would greatly limited my engagements. I hope that it doesn’t pass!!! I really don’t like crowds of prople and small gatherings are so much more enjoyable.
181. Emjay | May 11, 2008 at 10:13 pm
Do the math… if you have a 12 piece band and you’re only being paid $700-$800 for a show (which is what a lot of bars only pay), how do you pay a $500 licensing fee and pay your band members too? Would you go to work for $16.66-$25 for a night’s work? Never mind what it costs you to park in the city to play that venue. That’s less than minimum wage.
I doubt anyone in the city council would cross the street for that amount of money.
182. mari | May 11, 2008 at 10:13 pm
this must not pass…..i love this city and the wonderful creative energy artist bring to it….if this passes you will destroy what makes this city so unique and brillant!!!!
183. Generation Love | May 11, 2008 at 10:14 pm
Add me to the list of those who support the underground Chicago art scene.
Thank You,
Love
184. joel witte | May 11, 2008 at 10:16 pm
who in their right mind would approve this
why would you knowingly strip chicago of such a HUGE part of its culture
this is rediculous
185. Robert Weinstock | May 11, 2008 at 10:16 pm
This is a terrible idea. Chicago’s small theater companies and music venues are vital to our cultural scene. I hope the City Council will realize how much of a negative impact this would have and they do the right thing by voting against this ordinance.
186. Save Art | May 11, 2008 at 10:17 pm
Typical of politicians….have no clue of what makes Chicago special…which is that grass roots culture exists in the walls and flors throughout the city.
187. Robert Pawelek | May 11, 2008 at 10:22 pm
This is Insane
I hope my First Ward Alderman votes no
This is a slap in the face for everyone in the City of Chicago
add my name to the petition
188. Nick Santiago | May 11, 2008 at 10:25 pm
THIS CANNOT BE ALLOWED! Though I’ve yet to partake in many of the cultural offerings the city has to offer this would be a tragedy if it goes through.
189. Mike Feldheim | May 11, 2008 at 10:28 pm
As usual, the City Council, is wasting its time focusing on things that are not major issues. Chicago is known for it’s neighborhood theatre companies and small bar venues! And not they want to get to rid of them? Somehow I would bet there is money involved somewhere! THIS CANNOT CONTINUE! Kill this ordinance before this wednesday!!
190. Cheryl Tomblin | May 11, 2008 at 10:28 pm
I remember when I heard rumor of this ordinance last year from a friend of mine who is a Chicago-based Musician. Speculation of this ordinance was in conjunction with an already pending ordinance against DJ-ing in a non-licensed venue (ie. house parties) because such events are considered to be raves. I can’t believe that Chicago law-makers are trying to implement an ordinance that would stifle creative/musical expression in city known as “Home of the Blues.”
This city is the home, or at least major pit-stop, for so many musicians, small and big-time alike; musicians that can walk into a club, sit in for a set, and enjoy the company of their fellow musicians. In fact, that happened to me just the other night at Gallery Cabaret. While I was only there for a beer, the host that night approached me to ask if I could play a couple songs to fill in an open slot. If this ordinance is passed, opportunities such as this would not exist for me or other aspiring musicians in Chicago. Musicians will not only have to notify the police 7 days before any performance, but we will have to “get fingerprinted, submit to a background check,” and go through myriad of other hoopla. Would this be the end to “Open Mics” as well???!!!
This ordinance is completely asinine and I DO NOT support it. Please, for all those who benefit from being able to express themselves at venues small and large in Chicago, raise your voice and tell Mayor Dailey he would be doing his city a disservice passing this ordinance.
Cheryl (C.lynn) Tomblin
Singer/Songwriter
Chicago, IL
191. Kate623 | May 11, 2008 at 10:28 pm
This ordinance makes the foie gras ban look like the Declaration of Independence.
192. Andrew Reilly | May 11, 2008 at 10:29 pm
The intent of the ordinance is mostly commendable but the execution, at least in this form, leaves nothing defined and would turn what it should theoretically protect into nothing more than defenseless, low-paying targets. Absolutely unacceptable.
193. carrie burr | May 11, 2008 at 10:29 pm
there goes the neighborhood. you take this away from us, you take the heart and soul of our great city. you take this away from us and you will snuff out the rich & culturally diverse foundation for all that is, all that has, and all that is emerging as Chicago’s art, Chicago’s music, Chicago’s sound. . i am 110% opposed to this outrageous attempt to strip Chicago of its very essence – artistic diversity & genius has been born, raised and given wings here. diverse, genius, fledgling artists have been drawn to Chicago for over a hundred years…this has given it its life-spark, unlike any other city on earth. don’t kill us
194. Glenn | May 11, 2008 at 10:32 pm
Don’t let the city council screw up the local music scene.
The solution to every problem in Chicago ISN’T to tax it til the problem goes away……………..
195. Adam Kaltenhauser | May 11, 2008 at 10:35 pm
In the words of Frank Zappa (speaking about the absurd proposed legislation of the PMRC), “it’s like treating head lice with decapitation.”
196. swizzlesteve | May 11, 2008 at 10:35 pm
I play in a band and I book a room in the city. This is complete b#llshit. People need to rise up and make sure this doesn’t happen.
197. Daniel Pender | May 11, 2008 at 10:36 pm
This is a low move and shouldnt even be thought about. The local music and theater here is what makes this city so great. you would think that the city councel would know that.
198. venturii's | May 11, 2008 at 10:39 pm
Chicago is known for it’s diversity and cultures…in many forms. This ordinance would be another way the city is progressively trying to use powe and big organizations/ordinances to stifle this..micro/macro manage all facets of the city…squashing not only culture in the city, it will squash businesses of all forms, and push developing culture to more “culture friendly cities”, it would be another short cited decision. The city has many more important and critical issues to deal with rather than spent energy on this and other needless things like foie gras, dog breeds,etc. Spend the energy and decisions on gangs, drugs, jobs, roads, business,etc. T & H Venturi
199. Phyllis | May 11, 2008 at 10:43 pm
Don’t take opportunities to see local music away from me & more importantly don’t take it from families who probably can’t afford all the higher priced venues. How much MORE culture will we deny our cities children after so many school programs have also already been taken away.
200. Phyllis | May 11, 2008 at 10:44 pm
Don’t take this from families who probably can’t afford all the higher priced venues. How much MORE culture will we deny our cities children after so many school programs have also already been taken away.
201. Megan Sontag | May 11, 2008 at 10:45 pm
I cannot believe how crazy this is! Art is what makes Chicago amazing, anyone who is out to stifle the heart of the city should move to wisconsin…then they will know what it’s like to live in a place where if you say, “What is your favorite Andy Warhol?” they have no idea who that is…..or what you are talking about.
DON”T LET THE ART DIE!!!!!! You will turn into Wisconsin. ((shudder))
202. Timothy Eident | May 11, 2008 at 10:52 pm
I see this as pushing events out of the city, where we do not have efficient public transportation. I see this as hindering public safety in the fact that we will have more people driving to events in the suburbs and driving home under the influence. E2 was a tragedy and a large loss of life, but I see a larger loss of life due Drunk Driving from Elgin, Aurora, Joliet, and other areas into the city after an event. I would rather have people taking trains and buses around the city, than behind the wheel.
I also see this as hindering development of Chicago Culture. Are we not the “Home of the Blues”? What would this do to the blues scene, which while strong, is not strong enough to survive something like this. What about the other music scenes? What about small plays and one man shows that we have that make our city what it is? We are a city of culture and art. It is what makes us Chicago. This is damaging to who we are as a city.
I am all for safety in our city, but pushing through an ordinance such as this is dangerous in so many ways. This ordinance needs to be tightened in it’s wording, and rethought in every way.
203. Allison Fishman | May 11, 2008 at 10:53 pm
It’s those venues with 500 or less that give music lovers, artists, and the like those intimate moments that reinforce the integrity of the creative soul this city has to offer. Who would want to rob Chicago and it’s visitors the great experience of what makes “art” such a notable quality. Or the promoter’s who literally “bust their arse already” job any harder than it already is? To make a few extra bucks for the “promoter’s license” to thereby be “legit.” Come on now. How much $ does Perry Farrel’s Lollapalooza, Bluesfest, Gospel fest, Taste of Chicago, Looptopia, etc bring in EVERY year? I’m quite sure the figures are atronomical. You better believe the city of Chicago get’s a HUGE portion from the proceeds. We must get together and let them know how near and dear these clubs truly are to us. Not the time to overlook the fact that Not making a big deal out of the issue would most definitly limit the artist to a sorry list of options to participate in the things they are passionate about.
204. Chris Bryan | May 11, 2008 at 10:55 pm
As a local performing musician, who LIVES off of the money that small music venues provide, I am outraged at the unrecognized, senseless aftermath of this ordinance. Furthermore, I cannot imagine this city without places such as Schubas, the Metro, and Uncommon Ground. They are creative thinktanks and an augmentation of our rich culture. Please vote this down or I’m moving to New York!!!
205. Joanna Halinski | May 11, 2008 at 10:57 pm
Please do not allow this ordinance to pass.
Please do not change Chicago’s music and theatre scene.
For me, Chicago’s stage art pulses like the blood that runs through my veins.
Please do not infect it.
206. Pete | May 11, 2008 at 10:59 pm
That’s fine. I can see where this city is headed.
Big vanilla shows with no further outlets for artistic creativity. Just like most everything else is turning to in Chicago. 10 years from now we’ll look like Schaumburg.
207. Gina DeBartolo | May 11, 2008 at 11:00 pm
Cultural suicide. Unbelievable.
Way to go, Chicago City Council.
208. Sally Scheef | May 11, 2008 at 11:01 pm
There MIGHT have been some good intentions in the writing of this ordinance, but the ramifications have not been thought through. It is ill conceived and dangerous.
209. Sara | May 11, 2008 at 11:03 pm
I can’t put into words how ridiculous this ordinance is. We can’t let this pass!!
210. Tucker | May 11, 2008 at 11:05 pm
Isn’t it tough enough to to live in Chicago? Price gouging artists is a cheap shot at finding funds for a city that is corrupt from top on down. Find some other way to raise money. This is just not right.
211. Heather Haneman | May 11, 2008 at 11:06 pm
The arts in Chicago are too important to be allowed to be squashed by this ordinance
212. jason krasowski | May 11, 2008 at 11:08 pm
This CANNOT happen!! Doing this will kill the love a and passion so many people put into the love of music!! Please, let us be!! There is other ways the city can make money outside of killing the ability for young, often broke artists to be heard in the city!
213. matt | May 11, 2008 at 11:12 pm
this is totally outrageous and disheartening. not very surprising, considering the city was never very arts friendly. with rising prices on everything, this would not be a good thing … the rippling effect would have lasting, damaging consequences for all involved.
214. Mary E. O'Kiersey | May 11, 2008 at 11:13 pm
Chicago has a vital arts community which will be smothered by this proposed ordinance.
215. Meggie Sasaki | May 11, 2008 at 11:25 pm
This city thrives on the small venues, theater companies and bands. To try to snuff them out is insane. Not only would it hurt the tourist business (a lot of people come just for these events) it would leave more people than I care to imagine out of jobs. This is outrageous and makes me wonder how anyone could think a city known for these things could survive without them.
216. steve vazquez | May 11, 2008 at 11:34 pm
Wow! Truly unbelievable. Our once proud cultrually rich city is truly about to lose it’s soul. Please council members, snap out of it. The Devil truly has your blood running green. Think of al the work yet to be done with Bronzeville’s cultural rejuvenation and Pilsen’s Renaissance. It has all been spearheaded by grass roots cultural efforts. Independent groups that LOVE this City. Is that really something you want to hand over to Disney and Live Nation?!!!! Think of all the WORLD when they mention Chicago… “Ah yes, a wonderful cultural mecca that is the Jewel of America’s heart. The Soul of that Nation” or when they come here in the future, do you want them to say, ” What the Hell did they do to Chicago!”. Is that really what you want when the Olympics get here. I implore you, SNAP OUT OF IT!!!! And just ask yourself, “What would Muddy do?”
Well, if YOU pass this, it would basically be like spitting on his grave. For this is really a damaging way to cover for lack of execution and enforcement of safety rules. Don’t let the tragedy of that one horrendous night become a cultural tragedy for years to come.
217. Bob Mirage | May 11, 2008 at 11:43 pm
The “promoters’ ordinance” will scare away another industry and current tax revenue from Chicago.
218. Angie | May 11, 2008 at 11:45 pm
I’ve lived in this city since 1996 and been a musician whose played in this town ever since I’ve lived here. The longer I stay in Chicago, the worse it gets. If something like this passes, just more of a reason to get out of this town with it’s ridiculous sales tax, out of control property taxes, smoking bans, s*itty looking condos everywhere and the worse gas prices in the country! Chicago used to have something to offer….. music is about the last thing that it has and that is about to go!
219. Chuck Showalter | May 11, 2008 at 11:49 pm
These performance spaces provide avenues and opportunities for our beloved artists to hone their chops. Their value to our city’s culture transcends words. This will not stand. I’ll be at city hall/Daley Plaza to express this. Ritchie needs yet another slap on the hand.
220. Omkar | May 11, 2008 at 11:49 pm
The ordinance would be extremely harmful to Chicago. The City Council is amazingly clueless and short-sighted.
221. Nicole Salow | May 11, 2008 at 11:55 pm
I can’t believe they could even consider this. Talk about killing the local music scene! come on! this has to be stopped.
222. John Moran | May 11, 2008 at 11:56 pm
As an artist who was born and raised in Chicago, it is abhorrent to know that the city that has helped to inspire me is trying to keep me from reaching out to the public and build my audience. This has to stop. If this was 1980, would you do this to Steppenwolf?
223. Mat | May 11, 2008 at 11:59 pm
BS, plain and simple. Yet another example of how ass backwards and corrupt this city is.
224. Brian K | May 12, 2008 at 12:01 am
I live in Milwaukee. For the last several years I thought Chicago was the greatest city in the U.S. for music and the performing arts. Then you banned smoking (no, I am not referring to the state ban, I mean the Chicago ban that was passed first but was to go into effect later), now this. My band just played two shows in Chicago. We made about $100 for both shows combined. If this ordinance passes, we absolutely will not be back, but we’ll be rockin’ the ‘burbs. I myself have not attended a show in Chicago since the smoking ban and if this law passes, I will not bother to come back to your once great city for any entertainment or any other reason. I already refuse to go to my own state capitol of Madson in protest of the Communists that run that town. So, Politbureau, put that in your pipe and smoke it.
225. Brian Hinkle | May 12, 2008 at 12:05 am
This ordinance is unnecessary, stifling and flatly unacceptable.
226. Suzie Ostrowski | May 12, 2008 at 12:11 am
garbage, all of it. stop sucking the life out of the city.
227. Patrick R. | May 12, 2008 at 12:16 am
we as a community cannot let this happen.
228. Shana Porter | May 12, 2008 at 12:17 am
I am deeply offended by this ordinance. It’s absolutely wrong. I can’t tell you how many plays and shows that I have seen over the past 3 years that weren’t mainstream productions, but made me think. Entertained me. Made me happy that I searched them out and found them. This culture is what makes Chicago such an unique town – allowing artists of every stripe to be able to perform their art for a varied audience. Strop trying to meddle in art. Not everyone wants to see big-time show productions. Don’t mess with our CULTURE.
229. Harrison Rose | May 12, 2008 at 12:17 am
This is a travesty that will only hurt the people of Chicago and small businesses trying to support and promote the arts.
230. Diane Schacter | May 12, 2008 at 12:21 am
As regular supporter of Chicago theatre, I find this ordiance ridiculous.
231. Katie Kopecky | May 12, 2008 at 12:21 am
This is a terrible idea! This will destroy what makes Chicago so great. Don’t do this.
232. DEMETRI ALEXANDER | May 12, 2008 at 12:22 am
Please do not pass this srifliing ordinance, thank you.
233. Carol | May 12, 2008 at 12:23 am
Why would the city council even consider this ordinance? I’m opposed since it would deny many unique cultural events that make Chicago so special.
234. Pam Wolff | May 12, 2008 at 12:23 am
What is the need for this ordinance? Aren’t there liability laws already in place to “protect” people? Enforce existing laws, and don’t saddle people with more costs. In this economy, this law makes little sense, and that’s being generous. As a singer myself, who normally performs in private/semi-private venues, I wonder how this will affect me. I’m not going to pay money to sing at friends’ parties.
235. John Whitehead | May 12, 2008 at 12:23 am
I live in Ontario(Canada) and hope this doesn’t go through. I hope to start going t ochicago once or twice a year to see large and small art and music events and if something like this passes I am a little more inclined to go somewhere liike San Francisco to get the art/culture that I want to see and hear.
VEnues under 500 peope are usually where the people who care and love the art/music/comedy etc the most. These smaller smaller places are where the people who put the show or event on really care about what they are doing. They are usually using there own money and alot of there time to do a great smaller event.
I hope to come to chicago in novenmber and hope I don’t have to change my mind and go somewhere like San Francisco instead.
236. DEMETRI ALEXANDER | May 12, 2008 at 12:24 am
Please do not pass this stifling ordinance, thank you.
237. Arnie Ziffel | May 12, 2008 at 12:32 am
I can’t fathom a Chicago without the smaller venues. Watching a growing talent in a coffee house IS Chicago. It is what makes us an international city. I am having trouble understanding their reason for this menagerie of regulations. Welcome to the People’s Republic of Illinois! Good Luck.
238. Charles Valentino | May 12, 2008 at 12:33 am
Absolutely ridiculous. Another nail in the coffin of ma and pa bars and taverns. This time the city is going after the bars with bands.
239. Brian K | May 12, 2008 at 12:36 am
Sorry, had to comment again after reading DeRpgatis’ interviews with Schulter and Stein. Those two are lying liars and complete idiots. These two keep talking about “promoting an event to 1000 people when the venue only holds 500″ and such gibberish. And yet newspaper ads are exempt. If you put an ad in the Tribune, for example, how many people are you theoretically “promoting” to? The entire circulation of some 200,000 or more? Is there any venue that can hold the entire Tribune circulation? If your myspace page has 1000 friends and you put out a bulletin, do you really think that all 1000 are going to show up just because you told them about your show? You are lucky if you get 5% . Under this law, any band or any bandmember that promotes his own show in any way would be a “Promoter” and subject to the licensing and fingerprintng requirements. All of the “established” venues as well as the less established venues rely upon the bands self promotion. As I stated earlier, nobody in a band makes any money in your town or any other town for that matter unless they are completely crass commercialists or happen to be extremely lucky. So why do you want to take our fingerprints, charge us a fee, and make us get insurance? Does Daley really have to create more jobs for his pals? Again, Communism at work. Create a disastrous situation (E2) by not enforcing existing laws and use that as an excuse to force still more absolutely unneccessary government intrusion into our lives. Liberty and justice are dead in Chicago.
240. Richard | May 12, 2008 at 12:39 am
Ok, some main reasons this is a REAL bad idea for Chicago. First off there are countless numbers of business owners of original live music venue across the city that need to consistenly rely upon the revenue live concerts generate from admission charges, food and drink in order to keep their business up and running. AND to be able to consistenly keep their staff employed and PAID to keep doing their jobs, like providing security, cooking, bartending and etc, etc. I believe this would just back fire and cause a regional backlash for countless thousands who flock to live music clubs every week of every month to support the clubs, the music groups and the people who help the clubs and bands stay successful in their endeavors. Not to mention the massive amount of sales tax revenue the city would lose from the loss of you know, sales of alcoholic beverages that in most cases is what keeps many of these clubs major staples in the culture of being a modern-day Chicagoan. Pass this ordinance and many of us will be calling you back to say, “Hate to say i told you so, this was a bad idea!”
241. daniel feldstein | May 12, 2008 at 12:40 am
The city of Chicago would do itself a great disservice by passing this ordinance. It could bleed this city dry of real art and real culture.
in fact it would make chicago look like the communist city of america were the artists and musicians are kept from expressing themselves.
is chicago going to be govern by reason or madness? this ordinance would be a sign that this city is run by heartless politicians waving their power around like guns.
242. Kyla Doetch | May 12, 2008 at 12:43 am
This is outrageous. If the aim of this ordinance is to crush any semblance of local music scene, then it should be VERY successful. And frankly, I’m not sure what else this could accomplish. Totally and completely unacceptable.
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245. Paul | May 12, 2008 at 1:03 am
As a former resident of Chicago, and a lifelong patron of the arts, I find this ordinance ridiculous! We need more art not less!
246. Andrew Yale | May 12, 2008 at 1:12 am
Let’s hope that if this preposterous ordinance passes, the city takes its enforcement as seriously as the foie gras ban.
247. Michael Koulis | May 12, 2008 at 1:15 am
Some of these venues are legendary in Chicago and they define the city, doing GREAT things like promoting a unique and creative music scene full of hard working people that base their lives off of playing at some of these venuese. This could ruin the Chicago music scene!!!!! EVERYONE SHOULD BE AGAINST THIS!!!!!
248. Robert Linzmeier | May 12, 2008 at 1:21 am
Aldermen,
This ordinance is too broadly written. You cannot possibly intend to eliminate the business and tax revenue which will happen as a result of your inartrful drafting. Please refer this back to your lawyers to prevent these unintended conssequences which accomplish no valid regulatory objectives concerning these Chicago institutions.
R.W. Linzmeier
Attorney at Law
249. Andrew Ruble | May 12, 2008 at 1:25 am
This is silly, unnecessary, and almost bully-like in my opinion.
In the case of a lot of traveling bands and theater company’s, this ordinance would effectively take the next to nothing that most of them survive on to begin with and then ask them for seconds.
250. Chien Yuan | May 12, 2008 at 1:28 am
This is ridiculous!
251. Jennifer Knox | May 12, 2008 at 1:29 am
NO! Art is one of the things that makes our city so unique, beautiful, vibrant, and valuable. Where would artists BE without a HOME to grow and experiment???
252. Lindy | May 12, 2008 at 1:31 am
Are you crazy… what are you thinking if you let this ordinance pass!! As a Chicagoan you would be throwing up your noses at a whole segment of people out there who can barely and are thankful for venues that are still affordable! The Arts should be available and affordable for all and not just the Privilege!
253. Sue Fink | May 12, 2008 at 1:34 am
Hello… I left a longer post on Jim DeRogatis’s blog site, after reading the proposed ordinance there…
But basically — if I’m understanding the ordinance correctly — venues like Schubas, Martyrs, etc. would be excluded because the ordinance defines “event” as “…(1) any activity requiring a special event liquor license under Chapter 4-60 of this code;..” — i.e., if a venue already has a liquor licence for its shows, those don’t count as events; and coffee-houses that don’t serve liquor for shows also would be excluded… (this is at the bottom of p. 1 of the ordinance, btw)
Also, in the “Exclusions” section (pp. 2-3), there are a *whole lot* of exclusions: Newspaper/broadcast media promotions are excluded; the performer promoting him/herself is excluded; and it looks like the club owners are also excluded from being considered promoters.
HOWEVER, there’s other vague language defining a promoter that possibly contradicts the exclusions; although, if regular shows don’t count as “events,” it’s probably a moot point.
I’m NOT a lawyer (I’m a singer/songwriter), but it appears the language needs to be tightened up, but it doesn’t look like our normal venues — nor our promoters or ourselves — are being targeted. I would think that with all our comments, and e-mails/calls to our aldermen, etc., this will be cleared up.
My concern: why did they try to “slip” this through without feedback from the arts community first? There’s just so much unnecessary regulation already…
If we’re not vigilant, creativity will be legislated into dust… the arts/artists will leave Chicago, and the remaining residents will lead smoke-free, arts-free zombie “lives” — but at least they will be SAFE –well, except for all the guns ‘n stuff…
254. Gloria Montgomery | May 12, 2008 at 1:54 am
This is RIDICULOUS! Do NOT PASS this anti-artist, anti-culture ordinance. Who came up with this stupidity, the EXCLUDED LARGE VENUE people???
255. Jackson Lanners | May 12, 2008 at 1:54 am
All things are connected and when you cut out one form of revenue in a city through red tape you cut out all the revenue that supports it. Chicago isn’t about canned entertainment. It’s entertainment culture comes from small venues and local acts. Be real people. Many ants build the ant hill….not just major acts.
256. Daniel Sugrue | May 12, 2008 at 1:58 am
Chicago is the city we love because of its culture, and denying musicians and artists a chance to enrich and continue that tradition is a tragedy.
257. Robert Harnish | May 12, 2008 at 2:00 am
If this ordinance passes, Chicago won’t be known as the “Second City” anymore. It’ll be known as a little “Cow-Town” again and it won’t be the stockyards that smell.
258. Mary | May 12, 2008 at 2:13 am
I’ve already e-mailed my alderman to ask that he vote against this ordinance.
259. Beata Riedlmayer | May 12, 2008 at 2:16 am
This ordinance will do incalculable harm to Chicago’s vibrant culture. No doubt the committee has some good intentions, but this is definitely not, not, not the answer!
Please don’t strangle the small venues, the small artists, the wealth of talent and wonderful contributions to Chicago and what makes it great!
Thank you.
260. Chris So | May 12, 2008 at 2:17 am
Seems to me that this is a form of free speech oppression.
261. BETSY FISHMAN | May 12, 2008 at 2:20 am
THIS WOULD BE POSSIBLY THE WORST THAT COULD HAPPEN
IN CHICAGO CULTURE HISTORY. DO NOT LET THIS HAPPEN
262. Mark E. | May 12, 2008 at 2:22 am
WHAT ARE THEY THINKING??? STOP THIS BILL NOW!!! DON’T RUIN CHICAGO…I AM AGAINST THIS ALL THE WAY!!!
263. Sean Nolte | May 12, 2008 at 2:25 am
Chicago has always been a hotbed of great,home grown
talent,be it art,theatre,music,etc.
This bill is just another way for the city to dig its claws
into and destroy it’s vast culture,history and future.
I guess the city must really be broke.
264. Sandra Sanoski | May 12, 2008 at 2:27 am
I totally oppose this ordinance!
265. Christopher S. | May 12, 2008 at 2:31 am
This is absolutely wrong. Current and future artists will suffer greatly if this bill is passed. SAVE CHICAGO’S CULTURE!
266. Kris N | May 12, 2008 at 2:34 am
I am opposed to this ordinance.
267. Donna Fintz | May 12, 2008 at 2:44 am
This ordinance will destroy the music and theater life that has made Chicago such a vibrant, creative city,. The small theaters and bands and other performers who represent themselves will be unable to perform and we all will be deprived of their talent.
In addition, I believe this ordinance violates the First Amendment of the US Constitution.
268. James Henderson | May 12, 2008 at 2:45 am
As a regular patron of small theater companies throughout the city I oppose this ordinance.
269. WILLIAM COOPER | May 12, 2008 at 2:55 am
HOW WILL MANY NEIGHBORHOOD FESTIVALES STAY IN CHICAGO? HOW WILL MANY SMALL EATERIES THAT HAVE SMALL BANDS OR PIANO BARS THAT COME IN ONCE OR TWICE A WEEK RUN? THIS ORDINANCE WILL CRIPPLE THE MUSIC AND CULTURAL LIFE IN THE CITY! ALSO AS I SEE IT, THE MANY STREET AND ND NEIGHBORHOOD FESTS, SUCH AS GREEK FEST, RODGERS PARK ART FEST, GOLD COAST ART FEST, ETC., WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO HAVE ANY MUSIC OR STREET PERFORMERS! PLEASE DO NOT STRANGLE THIS CITY BY BANISHING ALL OUR ENTERAINMENT TO THE SUBURBS!
270. Dawn Xiana Moon | May 12, 2008 at 3:25 am
As a working musician who lives in Chicago, I am appalled at this ordinance. As a singer-songwriter, I’ve played at 12 venues/festivals in Chicago, including Uncommon Ground and the Chinatown Summer Fair, and will say that it’s typical for a performer to play for tips (which range from $0 to $40 most nights) or a cover charge that will bring in $50-70 on a good night. Most jazz musicians I know earn $5-30 apiece from gigs in small venues when they play music that’s not explicitly consumer-oriented (that is, not playing jazz standards as background music, but rather being the focus of attention themselves). And this from musicians who have often trained at conservatories and earned advanced degrees in their art.
Very, very few performers would be able to afford a $500 license fee, and few small venues could afford it either. Besides destroying most of Chicago’s live music scene, this ordinance would damage support industries: manufacturers of T-shirts and promotional items, printers who make posters and flyers, etc. The ordinance is one way to kill one of the wonderful things about Chicago: its support of the arts and cultural scene.
Dawn Xiana Moon, singer-songwriter
271. Diane Gagliano | May 12, 2008 at 3:25 am
I oppose this ordinance..I go to many fests in chicago, and enjoy the music.Please do not take it away.
272. James Langkamp | May 12, 2008 at 3:35 am
Our economy is struggling right now, government needs to support business,especially promoters who are on the front lines, fighting to bring increase to the city of Chicago. Why force people to go elsewhere? Please turn this around.
273. Sean Masterson | May 12, 2008 at 3:44 am
The City of Chicago needs to invest in and support its rich
and diverse performing arts scene. This ordinance is misguided
and at odds with the support the city council should be demonstrating to the arts.
274. Mélissane Guigou | May 12, 2008 at 4:47 am
RIDICULOUS.
275. Eric Krueger | May 12, 2008 at 5:45 am
Simply put, we will no longer be able to do business in Chicago. Our money will have to be spent elsewhere. This is heartbreaking to be pushed out of the city and the culture we have fought so hard to build and protect. Please do not pass this hurtfull ordinance. Proper reinforcement of the existing laws is sufficient. Lets get those right before we impose more.
276. Brandon Penzkover | May 12, 2008 at 5:45 am
Please STOP this small-venue KILLING ordinance!!!
I think I understand some of the original intent behind this, but as it is written, it will DESTROY the arts in this great city.
277. Todd Papaleo | May 12, 2008 at 5:46 am
A thinly-veiled attempt at MORE money-grubbing and power-grabbing.
278. Ariel Bolles | May 12, 2008 at 5:57 am
This ordinance is misguided and targets the wrong people. It could potentially hurt the music scene here, and discourage bands from out of town from playing here. I don’t understand why City Council is wasting their time on this while there are so many glaring problems in Chicago that actually need immediate attention, like the fact that many public schools offer no art or music programs.
279. charlotte weeks | May 12, 2008 at 6:01 am
Please don’t let this happen! This is one of the charms of Chicago-don’t take it away!
280. Shirley Gonzales | May 12, 2008 at 6:05 am
There has to be a more reasonable way to statisfy the Council’s paranoia.
281. Mike K | May 12, 2008 at 6:09 am
Stop this nonsense you greedy bastards!
282. Sharon W | May 12, 2008 at 6:19 am
I’m wondering what business interests are behind such an ordinance…Perhaps the companies that have taken over control of nearly every fest in the city? Professional organizers that want no competition?
283. Joseph Merideth | May 12, 2008 at 6:21 am
One of the things that attracts people to our city IS the arts community…ouside of music this will most assuredly have a far reaching affect on one of the Nation’s richest arts cities.
284. J. Ballinger | May 12, 2008 at 6:21 am
Seriously? What a ridiculous thing to even consider! How a city, especially Chicago, could do something this like this is baffling.
285. Jenna Murfin | May 12, 2008 at 6:23 am
Without independent promoters putting up shows throughout Chicago at so many of the venues that make Chicago what it is, Chicago becomes nothing more than a big corporate stop on the road. Keep Chicago unique, and please support independent promoters/STOP the anti-promoter ordinance. The vast variety of shows one can see/be part of in Chicago makes Chicago vital to the art and music scenes of the world at large but without this variety, Chicago fails and seems to, in many ways, be turning a cold shoulder to those who have made it what it is….vibrant, diverse, unique and quite often, magical.
286. Anonymous | May 12, 2008 at 6:24 am
Don’t do it. This law would totally mess up all of what Chicago is known for. Every venue and bar that hosts popular, semi-popular, or bands that are rising to fame would be outraged. This law should never be passed.
287. Vianna Rosen | May 12, 2008 at 6:26 am
Don’t pass this ordinance! How can you write off Chicago’s small music and theater scene like this!?! Please don’t limit the culture of this city to “Big Name” Broadway Shows and Musicians. By passing this ordinance you’d be depriving you’re constituents of the rich and vast culture Chicago currently offers us. Don’t sell this off for a small profit, It’s too important!
288. John Reed | May 12, 2008 at 6:36 am
I don’t understand how a city would want to remove part of it’s unique character. The smaller club venues and storefront theaters give us what we search for outside of any prescribed program. They are what make me want to live in this city! An ordinance like this shouldn’t be allowed to prevent anyone from experiencing what Chicago is all about.
289. Kim Windsor | May 12, 2008 at 6:38 am
What are you thinking. For those of us who don’t have the “big” dollars to see the “big” shows, just love these little theatres. There is some quality actors, actress, bands, musicians that get their start in these venues and you are thinking of cutting them off at the knees. And if it’s the “almighty” dollar you are thinking of, then think of the revenue lost to the city at restuarants, parking, nightclubs etc that won’t be getting the “dinner and a show” crowd for they will all be headed to the suburbs. Please think twice before passing this ordinance.
290. Ben Bass | May 12, 2008 at 6:40 am
I second (or is that two hundred eighty-sixth?) everyone’s thoughts above. The proposed ordinance is ill-conceived and dangerous.
In other news, I enjoy breathing air.
291. Dave | May 12, 2008 at 6:41 am
Totally outrageous! Its not like musicians have this kind of money.
292. andie | May 12, 2008 at 6:42 am
Chicago’s goverment should strive to create opportunities for small and emerging venues to succeed, not succumb to the red tape tyranny of an unfit or unattainable a blanket liability. Before simply shutting the door on the the smaller venue, and hence their patrons, we should seek to provide an easier means to both protect Chicago citizens and businesses alike.
293. Melanie Sampson | May 12, 2008 at 6:42 am
I oppose this ordinance. It will completely squash many local, hardworking, independent organizations and companies in music and the arts that give this city its character and charm, leaving a giant hole to be further filled by boring old Corporate America.
294. StevenDeBouver | May 12, 2008 at 6:42 am
Please don’t we have better ways of getting more tax dollars.
295. B J Jones | May 12, 2008 at 6:57 am
Don’t let this ordinance pass!!! Our small music scene is a big part of what makes Chicago more than just a “fly-over” between New York and Los Angeles. We don’t need to actually try to become only a second-rate city, just in the name of a little profit, with added opportunity for increased corruption.
296. patrick | May 12, 2008 at 7:02 am
we cant do this this is ludicris
297. Chris G | May 12, 2008 at 7:03 am
Art, Music and Theatre are an intrigal part of the city that is truely alive! No small group no matter who/what has the kind of money it seems they’re proposing and then the city will be minus one more thing that’s been dissapearing from the city the past few years and I won’t have an argument for people when we’re talking about reasons to come to Chicago!
298. Laurie Helena Bouchez | May 12, 2008 at 7:03 am
I oppose this ordinance. This would take away the livelihood of many of my professional musician friends. It also would keep creative people from coming together to express themselves and create new things musically for others to enjoy.
It also would take away part of the reason people move to and visit Chicago. What are they thinking?
299. M Zahara | May 12, 2008 at 7:04 am
This is ridiculous as it will kill one of the best music scenes in the country! How about instead of raising city revenue (again), the people in charge trim some fat?
300. John Cunningham | May 12, 2008 at 7:09 am
Small music and theater venues are the lifeblood of Chicago’s arts communities, and I strongly disapprove of the city’s attempts to restrict them.
301. Jenna Wenzlaff | May 12, 2008 at 7:09 am
This is so, so ridiculous.
Anyone who lives in Chicago and loves our music here knows that every time you leave a show, you get flyers showing you about other shows. And, if you’re like me, you’d like that.
I think this is really unneeded, and the fact that I couldn’t help promote (I’m thirteen) is really disappointing and ridiculous.
302. Kelsey | May 12, 2008 at 7:18 am
music is my life. it is a way for people to connect on a way deeper level than one could possibly connect on without it. speaking from the position of a girl who’s boyfriend is in a band and also has some really close friends in local music bands, music is their creative outlet. to take the outlet from others in chicago, would be like taking it from my friends. all of the great bands we have had the opportunity to listen and view over the years had to start out somewhere, thats local music.
303. Noreen Sobczyk | May 12, 2008 at 7:18 am
This is absolutely intolerable and would be tragic to our fine cultural landscape. What are you thinking?
304. Snezana Tragic | May 12, 2008 at 7:18 am
That’s ridiculous.. I’m against it… I’ve been traveling around the world a lot and I’ve never heard for that kind of nonsense.
305. Batya Hernandez | May 12, 2008 at 7:22 am
This is unacceptable! Blue Line Studio is a small studio/salon that allows new, emerging and established artists and performers to have an audience of less than 100. We don’t even charge a full admission it’s pay what you can. We would have to charge exhorbanant prices and our base audience would be cut out. Only a few could even afford to attend. This would really wipe us out.
306. Amy Knoll | May 12, 2008 at 7:23 am
I am an avid consumer of music and performance in this city. I work not-for-profit and a $15 gig ticket is my entertainment. I love supporting local artists and businesses and witnessing some pretty impressive art at the same time.
Please do not limit my main source of culture. I love to go out and meet new people, find new acts and enjoy something amazing without corporate sponsorship. We need this to keep Chicago’s arts community strong.
There are building codes to prevent another disaster like E2. I believe in safety – trust me. But penalizing the people who are struggling to make a living doing what they love seems like a very poor approach.
Please do *not* pass this bill. It will only hurt your city.
307. bambi | May 12, 2008 at 7:23 am
I agree with the everyone above. What will happen to the people who enjoy music festivals?
This will totally affect the livelihood of many musicians. Don’t let them pass this ordinance!
308. Michelle Hackman | May 12, 2008 at 7:27 am
Stop this ordinance. Do you want Chicago to become artistically drained? Musicians LOVE Chicago because it is so welcoming a city and there are so many opportunities….this ordinance would kill those chances. STOP THIS ORDINANCE!
309. Michele | May 12, 2008 at 7:40 am
I oppose this ordinance. It will force the creative talents of many to go elsewhere. Chicago is a great city that provides amazing music and theatre. Don’t take this away from us.
310. David Wachtendonk | May 12, 2008 at 7:42 am
As someone who’s passionate about arts and entertainment, i feel this ordinance restricts creativity and options for the public and is only benefiting big business. Please support the “little guys”.
311. Ralph Pehl | May 12, 2008 at 7:46 am
Stop this ordinance! The music and culture scene in Chicago is what makes this city great. Suppressing and eliminating this by adopting unreasonable ordinances only to add funds into a city that can easily replenish by other means is a political undertaking of the most irresponsible types. Our leaders are here to represent us and maintain our source of individualism and preserve the heritage of Chicago. To the politicians and city officials – represent the people as asked of you, as elected by us. Embrace what makes this city great – and decry the politics that wants to drain the city of its uniqueness. If it’s about money, there are many other ways to obtain rather than draining the city of creativity and inspiration.
312. Eric Roach | May 12, 2008 at 7:51 am
You pass this ordinance, you kill culture in this city. You kill everything that draws people to this city in the first place. As an actor and supporter of small venues, I think this is insane. People will leave this city once you make it just like the suburbs. Think about what you are doing. This is pure greed.
313. Michelle Lambing | May 12, 2008 at 7:51 am
I moved to Chicago 6 years ago because of its cultural offerings – mainly its music scene. If this ridiculous ordinance passes, the places that I see music the most won’t be able to book shows, the bands will quit coming to Chicago, and these places will close.
Add that to be gradually priced out of the city, and there’s very little to keep me here. I really love Chicago – don’t let it go downhill!!!
314. Robert Bastin | May 12, 2008 at 7:54 am
i dont live in chicago anymore but i still have family there. and when i lived there i know i enjoyed going to all the music festivals . and the new ordinance seems like it would hurt all the new start up bands. and if there are less music festivals wont that mean less money for the city?and also what about the clubs? many people enjoy listening to live music in clubs
315. Michael Roth | May 12, 2008 at 7:56 am
As both a lover of music and a musician, I feel that this ordinance will kill the music culture of our city. Since moving here, I have found that Chicago’s music scene is one of the major benefits of living in our city. Being able to have a license to promote concerts in our city is a ridiculous ordinance that makes it difficult for promoters, musicians, and music lovers in Chicago to enjoy concerts on a regular basis. Please put a stop to this ridiculous law and let music continue to thrive in our city.
316. Sarah Rose Graber | May 12, 2008 at 7:57 am
I welcome all ignorant politicians in favor of this ordinance to come to a non-equity production or a small music venue and see the magic they’d be destroying. Chicago has a unique and active arts community that wants to keep growing. Please don’t let this happen.
317. Jim Lang | May 12, 2008 at 8:00 am
Our band members are a Dr., a research scientist and an engineer.
We travel nearly 100 miles most weekends to perform our original material in Chicago. Without the existing independent promotors, we would not be able to play.
318. Anthony Seymour | May 12, 2008 at 8:02 am
I have a friend who single handedly made his band happen through self promotion. This is an outrage and only serves to stiffle creativity in music.
319. Ken | May 12, 2008 at 8:03 am
I am totally opposed to this rediculous ordinance. It will ruin our great but smaller cultural events in the city. All the smaller theatres around the city will dry up as well as great band venues. No No No! This is totally wrong!
320. Lee Brasuell | May 12, 2008 at 8:06 am
The small storefrnots and music venues are what make Chicago, well Chicago. It would be a tradgedy if we lost some of these venues do to un-needed political interventions.
321. Adrienne | May 12, 2008 at 8:09 am
As a working non-equity actress and lifelong Chicagoan, I find it very hard to believe that Mayor Daley, a self-proclaimed champion of the arts, would allow this to pass into law. Small theatre companies all over the city are still reeling from the PPA ordinance from a few years ago, and being forced to pay new licensing fees of this kind will likely be the end of a good many more. This proposed legislation is very short-sighted, as it will not only drive under the artists not able to afford the fees, but will also drive away the audiences no longer able to afford to see the artists they used to support so avidly, once ticket prices have to be raised in keeping with the new budget line items we’ll be forced to incur. Does the City Council really want to leave this as their legacy – to create a downtown theatre district, only to kill off all the off-Loop theatres and music venues that keep this city so vibrant, and for which it is world-renowned?
322. Jennifer Drapeaux | May 12, 2008 at 8:09 am
I have attended shows at the Metro, and I can’t imagine that this would have to end! This is absolutely ridiculous- Chicago has started the careers of so many bands, and without these places, they would not be where they are today. I strongly suggest that you do not approve this ordinance, because if you do, Chicago will lose a part of its shine, for so many people (like myself) travel to this great city just to go to concerts at these places. If you approve this ordinance, not only are you losing out on great entertainment, but you are also losing out on tourist revenue.
323. Christy | May 12, 2008 at 8:10 am
What a terrible idea. The powers that be in Chicago need more real work to do, like cleaning up corruption in the city. If a promotor (loosely defined as even those who promote their own bands) agrees to submit to fingerprinting just so they can play their music in small venues, that would be truly unAmerican. The city dolts should put their efforts into weeding out illegals, drug dealers, and crime rather than harassing law-abiding musicians. Absolutely resist this gestapo-like trend, or there will be no more free Amercians left. This stupid idea must be stopped in it’s tracks!
324. Jennifer Harnish | May 12, 2008 at 8:11 am
What a tragedy this will be if you deny musicians and artist a chance to enrich and continue performing. This is one of the reasons that it draws be down to the city, as I live 50 miles away.
325. Lynn Eldredge | May 12, 2008 at 8:11 am
Dear Alderman Tunny:
I certainly hope that you vote NO on this proposal. The City is rich in neighborhood clubs and historically rich in music. This is an undue greedy proposal. Our young artists do not graduate from their long and expensive university musical educations and begin playing at the Auditorium Theatre or Symphony Center.
If this proposal is a result of the E2 bureaucracy blunder, it is unnecessary because 99% of our neighborhood clubs operate without incident.
I strongly oppose this strangling law for young and struggling musicians who need to have their talents aired.
Respectfully,
326. bil | May 12, 2008 at 8:12 am
Keep Chicago Music Scene Alive!
327. Samantha Gleisten | May 12, 2008 at 8:15 am
I moved to Chicago 10 years ago because of the fabulous theater scene, which exists because of the storefront theater culture and the artistic accessibility of our great city. This ordinance will destroy so much of the city’s creativity. And as a lover of good music, I can’t imagine a Chicago without great small venues to see wonderful musicians. Please, don’t vote for this damaging ordinance. Keep Chicago a place that welcomes and encourages artistic expression. Thank you for voting NO.
328. Carol Johnstone | May 12, 2008 at 8:16 am
I oppose this ordinance. I cannot imagine Chicago without the music and theater scene that exists here.
329. Vanessa Mendicino | May 12, 2008 at 8:17 am
Chicago is known for it’s music scene. It would be a shame to lose such a profound piece of our identity.
330. Hannah Weber | May 12, 2008 at 8:19 am
What ever happened to bunch of people deciding to get together and play music? This ordinance would cripple the spontaneity of small intimate venues all over chicago.
331. Colin Milroy | May 12, 2008 at 8:20 am
One of Chicago’s greatest assets is its booming artistic fringe community that produces fine theater, music and other arts year-round. Producing shows and operating a small, non-union theater is already difficult enough without additional overhead and questionable fees paid to a city that already has the nation’s highest sales tax. The fact that this ordinance does not hold larger venues to the same requirements demonstrates a lack of vision in how this ordinance was conceived. Chicago needs to support its artistic fringe community. This ordinance is not support; it will only hurt many artistic companies and individuals already struggling to produce. I will not support this ordinance and neither should any member of our city council or community.
332. Amanda Price | May 12, 2008 at 8:22 am
So am I signing the petition by leaving a comment? I hope so!!!
333. Calvin Gin | May 12, 2008 at 8:23 am
I strongly disagree with this propsal and do not want it passed.
334. Bruce Holmes | May 12, 2008 at 8:23 am
This ordinance sounds like a terrible idea.
335. Chris C. | May 12, 2008 at 8:24 am
This is crazy! Chicago is the springboard for SO many small theatres that barely have enough of a budget to produce the shows themselves, let alone licensing and insurance. It’s difficult enough to find work as an actor. If it’s impossible to start your own theatre here, too, then what’s the point coming here over any other city?
336. Ed Jones | May 12, 2008 at 8:25 am
I am against this proposed ordinance!
337. Umesh Bhandari | May 12, 2008 at 8:26 am
Add me to the petition, thanks
338. Mitch Bhandari | May 12, 2008 at 8:27 am
Please add my name to the petition, Thanks
339. Peter Tibble | May 12, 2008 at 8:28 am
What makes Chicago great is being threatened with this bill. Please do whats right.
340. Ryan Behling | May 12, 2008 at 8:29 am
Speaking from experience, it’s hard enough to make a living as a musician in this town. We need to nurture the creativity coming out of this city instead of stifling it. The arts play a huge role in defining a community. And big cities are the mixing bowl where new music comes alive. The diversity throughout the city and suburbs makes for a musical field rich with ideas. People from all over the midwest come to this city to try to break through. And people from all over the world come to this city to listen to music. Keep it alive.
Ryan Behling
Musician
341. Johnny Gaskill | May 12, 2008 at 8:30 am
This ordinance would put myself and a lot of people I know out of our own businesses. This scene is hard enough to earn a living in without the city taking from our already meager incomes. I urge all performers, producers, managers, talent buyers, and connected entrepreneurs of the scene to rise up and against this corporate consolidation- the beauty of diversity in Chicago is that anyone can create an event, party, concert, etc and create their own artistic platform- this law would rip the proverbial DIY soap box out from under us.
342. Mariah Hasegawa | May 12, 2008 at 8:31 am
As a musician, I want to be able to play. I also want to support other local bands and small venues. Music is one of the most important things in my life. Part of what make Chicago great is the diversity in music and venues. We need to keep venues open!!!
343. Adam Sauers | May 12, 2008 at 8:31 am
This ordinance clearly does more harm than good. Please do not make it harder for creativity to exist in our city!
344. Brendan A. Fitzpatrick | May 12, 2008 at 8:36 am
Vehemently against!
345. Patricia Austin | May 12, 2008 at 8:36 am
For a city that supposedly LOVES it’s artists this ordinance will make it virtually IMPOSSIBLE for art to even exist!!!!
Please add my name to protest this ordinance. Make ART, Not Ordinances!!!!!
346. Nathaniel Parks | May 12, 2008 at 8:38 am
I think this ordinance would cause great harm to the important and long standing tradition of independently promoted musical events in the city. While I understand the impetus behind the proposed changes, I think this will only manage to damage the city’s reputation in the eyes of outsiders and prospective residents.
347. Deirdre L | May 12, 2008 at 8:39 am
This is nuts. Its not about regulating events or stopping fraudulent activities – this is just the city digging even further into everyone’s pockets. COME ON – the 10% sales tax isn’t enough! Geesh.
348. mark benson | May 12, 2008 at 8:40 am
Let’s keep Chicago a city that others emulate, not one people avoid.
349. Raccoon City Records | May 12, 2008 at 8:40 am
We’ve worked with far too many bands in the past few years to really just sit and watch this happen. Music is the fuel that drives this city- it always has been. Chicago is the home of not only the blues… it is the center point for creation. How can people really think to do this? In all honesty- limiting music isn’t going to help this city- it’s just going to clutter the road to New York with a gaggle of musicians all with an instrument in one arm and the other hand flipping the bird to politicians and law makers who fail to realize that this is a city of diversity and are and that with that taken away we become NOTHING.
Lets be real honest… can we survive a time when art is being robbed of it’s own existance? First the spindle… now music… whats next? Will we be tearing down the Picasso from the Dailey center? Will we be banning all street musicians also? THAT IS CHICAGO- riding the CTA Trains and getting off to listen to some street performers make music- – making music which can only be defined as spreading joy… what kind of white collar conservative could kill that?
M.
350. Rick Langheld | May 12, 2008 at 8:40 am
WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE!! MONEY MONEY MONEY!!! IS THAT ALL THAT MATTERS ANYMORE? THIS ORDINANCE WOULD NOT NECESSARILLY HAVE STOPPED THE E2 PROBLEMS FROM HAPPENING. THS CITY, THIS SCENE, ITS PERFORMERS, AND ITS FANS ARE IN DANGER OF GOING EXTINCT IF THIS GOES THROUGH. DONT TAKE AWAY THIS CITY’S SOUL….FOR MONEY!! DONT $$ELL OUT OUR CULTURE!!!
351. Nicole Ellis | May 12, 2008 at 8:40 am
Please do not pass the Event Promoters Ordinance. Local artists and musicians help make this city great.
352. Scott Ferguson | May 12, 2008 at 8:41 am
Please stop this ordinance from passing. The effects of this will surely prohibit many if not all of the small cultural arts companies in our artistically thriving city from surviving. It would make doing art too political and difficult thus silencing our wide variety of artists.
353. David Cerda | May 12, 2008 at 8:42 am
This proposed ordinace would make Chicago a highly undesirable city for new and exciting creativity.
354. Marc Rubin | May 12, 2008 at 8:42 am
As a suburbanite who enjoys traveling into Schuba’s, Martyr’s and Park West, this ruling, as written, would turn the “Second City” into “Lost in America”. Why the leaders of the local entertainment industry were not directly involved in the development of the ordinance reflects the ignorant arrogance of the city council. This is NOT representation of the citizens who elected them, but appears to be either favoring some special interest, or a knee jerk reaction to some isolated situations.
The council must refuse to pass this rule, and send it back for re-evaluation. Bring in the leaders of the local entertainment community to help formulate an appropriate guideline, and all will benefit.
It is time to act responsibly, not hastily.
Thank you.
355. Mike Owens | May 12, 2008 at 8:42 am
People have too many hurdles to jump, obstacles to avoid and protocols to follow in their everyday life. Why add more to the one aspect of living in Chicago that keeps the people moving , alive, and engaged in life? If art is controlled and regulated, we run the risk of watching Chicago transform into the Mall of America, Epcot Center or any other overpriced illusion of community and culture that sucks the life and expression from the people it absorbs. We have too much of this illusion already. Chicago is defined by the people, if you restrict their voice, you will lose the people.
356. Final Stage Productions | May 12, 2008 at 8:46 am
We must bring an immediate end to the notion that we as human beings can stifle the arts. The idea that we will no longer be advocating the arts, rather, decide that only those with a certain amount of money can promote them is as unconstitutional as it is ignorant! WE CANNOT MONOPOLIZE THE ARTS!!
Can’t we see that theatres are struggling as it is and making affordable productions for the every day person is a struggle that proves that we as producers, directors, actors and technicians are true servants of the people?
If we’re the first to ask in a decent mannor… please, don’t make this our future.
Final Stage Productions
357. jon steinmeier | May 12, 2008 at 8:51 am
This is terrifying…
358. Sandi Schiller | May 12, 2008 at 8:51 am
Are you trying to support all the theaters and night clubs in the suburbs so that no one will have reason to come into the city?
359. Gary Houston | May 12, 2008 at 8:52 am
Patrick O’Connor is my alderman. I wrote him this letter:
Dear Alderman O’Connor,
As your constituent I call your attention to the ordinance titled “Events Promoters” that I understand is coming up for a vote in City Council this Wednesday. It is described here — http://savechicagoculture.org/ — and it concerns levying unreasonably high fees of different sorts on arts venues, presumably to produce more city revenues. Since “events promoter” is a vague term such an ordinance threatens the smaller arts organizations with crippling or fatal demands on their resources, to say nothing of the suspicious procedure of fingerprinting (for “national security” reasons???) those who run them.
I used to report and edit in the features section of the Sun-Times, and I saw the flowering of Chicago’s theater scene from what my boss, the late Chicago historian Herman Kogan, had in a famous essay called a cultural wasteland. It is now such a great asset to the city I am convinced it is responsible for increasing our tourism since the Eighties. This flowering does not come from the big institutions. It comes from the many small ones. They are the ones that produce the seminal, daring work that sooner or later deepens the imprint of Chicago on the world cultural map. They are the ones the drafters of this ordinance seem determined to hurt, diminish or kill off. They must be stopped, and I hope you will be a part of stopping them.
I do not know what interests back this ordinance, but please oppose it.
Sincerely,
Gary Houston
360. Gregg | May 12, 2008 at 8:52 am
People! Come in off the ledge! 324 posts of complete panic. The music scene world will not disappear, the end of the world is not here. Please read the ordinance before you you make such insane end of the world predictions. The ordinance simply treats event promoters like any other business in Chicago by requiring a license and insurance. The license is a 2-year license, not per event. Listen the ordinance is not perfect, but every other small business in Chicago has to be licensed, have insurance and pay city taxes. That is reality. If you want to be in the business of event promoting you should not be treated differently from any other small business. That is not fair. The ordinance does not apply to venues with PPA licenses, does not apply to artists or other performers, does not apply to not-for-profit entities or any of the aboves employees. The city met with members from the music venues, event promoters, nightclubs and bars, heard them out and made lots of changes to try and accommodate evreyone. In July of 2007, the city allowed 200 people to testify for 3 hours as to the problems with the ordinance and the city went back and made wholesale changes. So please do not say that this was done without input from the music community. It may not have gotten to everyone but groups like JAM Productions, the Chicago Music Commission and both marketer and promoters have had a chance to air their concerns. The fact remains that event promoting has become an emerging business in Chicago and should be treated like one. For a small promoter the cost is a $500 license for two years ($1.46 a day) Insurance for a $300K policy will run anywhere from $1 to $2 a day. I know that indies and other starting out are working on small margins but so is the startup Pizza business, flower shop, and other small business. Rule and regulations can be drafted to work ou the kinks and amendments can always be done but have a little patience and faith that even City Hall does not want to Kill the music scene. There are a lot of good people in the department of Cultural Affairs who know about this as well and worked on it as well. The intent is not to destroy anything and if it turns out to have some negative unforeseen consequences, they will be dealt with. I know my post will not sit well with those who just hate the thought of government regulating this industry but it is a fact that event promoters and venue owners work together to put on events and sometimes the venue owners is left holding the bag when an event promoter rents out the facility and has a bad event that causes problems. This ordinance recognizes the influence of the event promoter and is a start at addressing some of these issues.
361. Tracie Tomlinson | May 12, 2008 at 8:54 am
As a booking agent with three Chicago bands on its roster, this is outrageous! These bands make a living by playing live shows for their fans in the city. These venues are INCREDIBLE places to play, and taking this away stifles everyone’s creativity.
I don’t know what the HELL anyone was thinking when they proposed this and what benefit they would gain (besides monetary gain with which the government could put towards other shit that we don’t need). This is ridiculous and should be fought tooth and nail.
It benefits no one to deny people of the creativity that we’re promised in our rights and that we’re born with. Ridiculous.
362. Amy Adkins | May 12, 2008 at 8:55 am
Are they going to start charging us to breathe too? This is ridiculous!
363. Dana | May 12, 2008 at 8:55 am
Absolutely ridiculous.
Dana Stremming
364. Jessica Fogle | May 12, 2008 at 8:56 am
This is absolutely ridiculous, and deserved more press and attention than it has received so far (I only know about this because of the abundance of people who have spread the word via blogs and mailing lists). The whole music community is outraged, as far I can see among my many friend-musicians. Chicago, you will lose a wealth of indie musicians who moved here specifically for it’s budding music scene. I love that I can experiment and find my feet here, without selling my soul. Please don’t ask me to sell my soul. Please let me continue to play my little shows in divey bars, and hand-draw my little posters, without having to call the police to let them know of my piddly event (not to mention money I don’t have for licenses–I’m a true starving-artist some months, expendible cash is not something we have!). I agree w/ Michael Teach, if the original laws had been enforced at E2 (?), we wouldn’t need this new ordinance. Please don’t drive culture out of Chicago…I’ve heard rumor that we are a great tourist attraction, us artists and musicians. If you must think in dollars, think of that! Don’t make us into some corporate-monoculture. Thanks for your help and consideration, powers that be.
365. Chris Fredbeck | May 12, 2008 at 8:56 am
While we all appreciate the need to limit liability and protect the safety of the audience, this ordinance is overly broad, will interfere with creative expression, and will ultimately lead to a decrease in tax revenue. Please reconsider.
366. Paula Gilovich | May 12, 2008 at 8:58 am
Please do not pass this ordinance. Our city thrives on its small arts organizations. Our larger, more established arts organizations in this city began as small attempts. Please do not squash the ability to develop new work in our city.
367. Alicia Kenney | May 12, 2008 at 8:58 am
This ordinance is poorly conceived and overly broad. It will do far more harm than good to our city. It should not be passed.
368. Barbara Hoff | May 12, 2008 at 8:58 am
We do not need to chase the smaller venues out of the city. Do not approve this ordinance.
369. Patrick O'Shea | May 12, 2008 at 9:02 am
Please do not let the ordinance become a reality. Part of what makes Chicago such a culturally rich city is small community-based organizing in the arts.
Please do not do anything to hamper that creativity.
370. Peter Andreadis | May 12, 2008 at 9:03 am
Most up and coming musicians and music industry hopefuls use small venues exclusively to promote themselves. The fact that Chicago has many of them makes the music community vibrant and ever-changing. In my opinion, Chicago has the best local music scene anywhere in the country. Any city ordinances requiring expensive permits for performances at 500 and less capacity venues will certainly kill off a lot of the glorious rootsy activities happening now. Who ever heard of a starving artist? Please help us out and revise this ordinance. Don’t tax the little guy!
371. Courtney | May 12, 2008 at 9:04 am
This ordinance would take away many of the best aspects of Chicago. Please, do not pass it!
372. Kristen | May 12, 2008 at 9:05 am
I have never heard of anything so ridiculous in my life.
373. Douglas Johnson | May 12, 2008 at 9:07 am
I fear that the increased costs proposed by this ordinance, however incremental they may be, would prevent me from continuing with events I already have booked and hold me back from organizing events in the future. It is a unwelcome shock to the system.
374. Alea Looney | May 12, 2008 at 9:07 am
this is dumb. i go to visit chicago FOR the culture.
idiots
375. D. Tresnak | May 12, 2008 at 9:07 am
Please do not let this happen to Chicago! The results will be devastating.
376. w. woody | May 12, 2008 at 9:10 am
This is what Nazi’s and communist do. I’m appalled at such an ordinence!
377. Chris Buck | May 12, 2008 at 9:10 am
I oppose this ordinance, which discourages city residents from making an active contribution to Chicago’s vibrant theater and music scenes.
378. Mike Racanelli | May 12, 2008 at 9:12 am
The language used in this ordinance is quite ridiculous. Maybe we should try to put more laws into a effect to stop child abuse or animal abuse. That would probably be a great thing to work on, right guys? Get your priorities straight, City of Chicago. Granted there are some promoters that do some shady stuff from time to time, but we cannot use this blanket language to babysit everyone. This punishes the good with the bad and I think that’s an easy way out.
379. Sue | May 12, 2008 at 9:13 am
We are hoping the Chicago City Council will think twice before they destory all the same little venues in the city, which make coming into the city fun for those of us who cann’t afford the larger venues. Sue
380. Kathrynne Wolf | May 12, 2008 at 9:13 am
We have one poster here saying the ordinance requires a $500 license per event, and another saying that license lasts 2 years. Best to read the ordinance through for yourself before making up your mind, and then contact your local alderman or someone who can make an impact. Comments on a blog aren’t likely to change the city officials’ minds.
381. Pam Schroeder | May 12, 2008 at 9:14 am
As huge fans of the Chicago Music and arts scene, it would be a crime to strip up and coming performers of the ability to find their audience in this great city. Jam, Live Nation, and Ticketmaster make enough money charging $50-$300+/ticket with their lock on larger concert venues.
Chicago’s small venue music choices bring this city untold tourist and entertainment dollars spent in restaurants, hotels, and related entertainment….and taxes. I’m sure the city coffers would miss this source of revenue.
How will Chicago’s Blues and Jazz musicians survive this ordinance? How will Chicago’s Jazz Fest and Blues Fest look when no Chicago artists are on the bill, because they were all driven to Memphis, Austin, and New Orleans? This ordinance will drive the arts to more friendly cities because of poorly thought, back room politics designed to enrich the big players at the expense of the performers.
Keep Chicago, not Austin, the live music capital of the world, and please don’t pass this misguided ordinance.
382. Lyn Schneider | May 12, 2008 at 9:15 am
I believe this ordinance will only succeed in stifling beginning performers and killing the music scene in Chicago.
383. Linnea Carrera | May 12, 2008 at 9:15 am
This is absurd. I don’t even want to think about what will happen if this passes. I work with a nfp theatre company, I shudder to think what this would mean for our future in Chicago.
One of the great things about Chicago is all of the small shows going on all the time, music, theatre, improv, sketch. We will lose so much if this goes through.
Please don’t let it happen.
384. Suzanna Boelter | May 12, 2008 at 9:16 am
this is ridiculous. DO NOT APROVE THIS ORDINANCE!
385. Morgan Manasa | May 12, 2008 at 9:19 am
As a theatre professional (company member of Babes With Blades) I am appalled that this ordinance was even conceived in the first place. As artists in this community we struggle enough as it is to create our art and get it out to the masses. Now we’re being told that we might not be able to do it at all? This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard of, especially in such an arts conscience city as Chicago.
Simply put, please don’t pass this ordinance into law.
386. Rob Kell | May 12, 2008 at 9:19 am
The Promoter’s Ordanance will have far reaching negative effects to the cultural landscape of Chicago. It will move Chicago away from the world class city status.
387. Gabriel Pastrana | May 12, 2008 at 9:20 am
This ordinance is written to broadly and needs to be revised to target specific event promoters. The theater/music/arts scene in chicago will suffer greatly if the ordinance is passed as is. I strongly oppose it’s passing.
388. Christian Murphy | May 12, 2008 at 9:21 am
Wow! How can a city known for its daring artistic creativity and collaborative spirit have a city council that wishes to snuff out the very energy that makes it so attractive to young artists. I had no idea how quickly Chicago was becoming Branson, Missouri.
389. Corey Lyons | May 12, 2008 at 9:21 am
I’m a musician, and like many people, I essentially moved to Chicago for the music. I’ll happily pack my bags and head to a more musician-friendly city if need be.
390. Ryan Bollettino | May 12, 2008 at 9:23 am
This ordinance goes against everything small Chicago business stand for. Stop this ordinance from progressing any further…
391. Amber Mandley | May 12, 2008 at 9:23 am
Count on my support.
392. steve niketopoulos | May 12, 2008 at 9:24 am
we should have the freedom to promote without being taxed for it. stupid rule, it will hurt Chicago. Think about all of the southside venues as well..
393. Karolina | May 12, 2008 at 9:24 am
Please don’t pass this ordinance. Some of the best music can be heard in smaller venues and so many of those venues have such significant cultural impact on our city. This ordinance would be stifling to our city’s rich cultural reputation.
394. Bridgid Titley | May 12, 2008 at 9:25 am
I oppose this ordinace. It is so obviously a rash reaction to the E2 Nightclub disaster, which resulted from violations of building/fire codes, not rogue event promoters.
All this ordinance will do is discourage outside and independent promoters from doing business with music and theatre venues which ALREADY HAVE A LICENSE and have been safely managing their shows for years. Chicago business will suffer and independent artists will be completely stifled.
395. Mike Watson | May 12, 2008 at 9:25 am
Let’s hope this misguided ordinance is defeated. Thanks to those leading the effort to stop it!
396. Becky Morrissey | May 12, 2008 at 9:25 am
Please do not pass this ordinance.
397. Josh Sumner | May 12, 2008 at 9:26 am
This is ridiculous. Just another way the city is trying to gain money from the people who don’t have it.
It’s nice to know all the large Theatre’s who actually make money wont have to pay, but all the small ones who are barely afloat will. sounds fair…
Contact your alderman now!
398. greg d prouddog | May 12, 2008 at 9:26 am
Put the brakes on. Please don’t allow the inappropriate management of some venues that have had sad,even deadly consequences due to the lack of training ,mismanagement and actions of unqualified individuals effect the arts community as a whole. Slow down and come up with a plan that provides rules and regulations that a promoter is to use as guidelines for providing a safe,secure event for the public to attend.
I know of many contractors who have a biz license and insurance but fall far short of providing the public and customers a job that meets the standards of the local building codes, manufactures requirements and common sense safety procedures.
Please do not pass this as written…
399. Rory O'Donnell | May 12, 2008 at 9:26 am
Some of the things that make this city so vibrant is its live theater and music scene. This law would stifle that scene. This law would stop small independent theaters and independent music from being seen and heard in this city. That would under cut the spirit of what makes this cities theater and music community so strong.
400. Elizabeth Beyreis | May 12, 2008 at 9:27 am
Chicago’s music & theater scene is unique in Illinois, the Midwest, and possibly the entire country. A ordinance like this will destroy all that.
401. Mary Doohan | May 12, 2008 at 9:29 am
Please do not pass this insane ordinance. This is not a good thing for the city, its artistic scene, or audience members!
402. Mary Lass Stewart | May 12, 2008 at 9:30 am
As someone who moved to Chicago in 1991 partly because of the city’s vibrant underground culture and arts-friendly environment, I’m horrified to see legislation considered that would change this irrevocably. We need to foster an environment that provides forums for small, unestablished practitioners of the arts in order to ensure we achieve the unique and diverse cultural promise inherent in Chicago.
I vote, I pay property taxes, and I love this city dearly. This piece of legislation is not appropriate for Chicago or consistent with the city’s commitment to culture.
403. Christine | May 12, 2008 at 9:31 am
This is a completely misdirected way to correct a problem! Don’t pass the ordinance!
404. Jeff Martin | May 12, 2008 at 9:35 am
This ordinance stands to be devastating to Chicago’s thriving cultural scene–why would city government want to stifle events that bring so many people (and so much money) into the city?!? It’s baffling.
405. JP Hochbaum | May 12, 2008 at 9:37 am
This is what happens when people instill fear into politicians.
406. Jeremy Scheuch | May 12, 2008 at 9:37 am
This is just another example the city of Chicago in its infinite wisdom restricting things they don’t know enough about. It is entirely to vague and misdirected. To use a few antiquated phrases, they are throwing out the baby with the bath water and cutting of the nose to spite the face.
The laws to make events safe, and i don’t think anyone argues that we all agree on wanting to throw safe events, are on the books already. The laws are not being enforced. I’m sure Todd Stroger had a few cousins the city could hire to enforce the laws we already have instead of punishing everybody for the cities lack of organization and follow through.
407. Rebecca Kosick | May 12, 2008 at 9:39 am
No to this ordinance!
408. Jennifer S | May 12, 2008 at 9:40 am
This is heartbreaking. Passing this ordinance would destroy what makes this city great and the reason why so many artists like myself moved here. If this gets passed I can’t see why I would stay here and I know I’m not the only one. STRONGLY OPPOSED!!!
409. Tony Lenhart | May 12, 2008 at 9:40 am
Chicago is one of the greatest music cities in the entire world. Up and coming bands from all over the world have always been able to come here and share what they do best. It would be a crime to stifle them by letting commerce get in the way of art.
410. Sam Bakken | May 12, 2008 at 9:40 am
I think this ordinance needs further review before it is passed. At first glance it appears that it will unneccesarily stifle the performance of local music.
411. Brendan Hutt | May 12, 2008 at 9:41 am
I am deeply saddened to see the city of Chicago taking such a monumental step backwards culturally with this ordinance. The damage it will do to our city’s culture and arts is simply mind-boggling.
Please, don’t ruin the most vibrant and wonderful artistic culture in the US.
412. Bill Kenefick | May 12, 2008 at 9:41 am
Bully in the Hallway supports local music, local venues and local music promotion. The work and effort of these venues, people, bands and companies enables the proliferation of art while providing financial support to many full and part time. This ordinance puts unfair and punishing financial restrictions on people and organizations that will have a crippling effect on the life of live music and art in Chicago.
Bill Kenefick
413. Bonnie Piddington | May 12, 2008 at 9:42 am
Of all the things to be spending time and money on this is about the dumbest! Art needs to breathe not be stifled by petty bureaucrats. Spend your time fighting crime, guns, hunger, homelessness. a lousy job economy…. not trying to shut down creativity and beauty,
Wicked is fine… but so is 66 Faces of Halloween which was presented in a space holding about 20 people and starred Bill Petersen of CSI fame.
Stop trying to legislate things that line youor pockets and destroy your souls.
414. Shea | May 12, 2008 at 9:43 am
Don’t pass the ordinance
415. Jeff Tobin | May 12, 2008 at 9:44 am
This law would destroy fringe theater and music. We have a tremendous community comedy, improv, independent music, etc that would be seriously hurt by passing this ordinance.
416. Jennifer | May 12, 2008 at 9:44 am
As someone involved in the music scene and a huge supporter, this is madness. Fix it, Chicago!
Jen Evans
Bucktown
417. Atasha Sosa | May 12, 2008 at 9:45 am
As an intensely passionate music goer, I often find myself in Chicago for many shows that I just can’t see in my home state (Iowa). For this reason, this is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard. Thousands of people attend shows at places like the Metro, and it is more than likely that Chicago will lose the respect of bands that bring in money, not only from them, but from the thousands of people who go to their shows to eat, drink and listen to great music.
Do not pass this ordinance.
418. andrew | May 12, 2008 at 9:47 am
I am commenting to voice my protest to this piece of legislation. I have been fortunate enough to enjoy making music and playing at the various small clubs in Chicago for 2 years. I have met other like minded artists and together we have put on shows at venues throughout the city. we book and promote our own shows. This law would effectively end the small community we have worked so hard to build over the last two years. it would adversely effect the artists that book these shows, and the small club owners that rely on musicians to bring people out to their otherwise empty clubs. please, please vote against this ridiculous ordinanace and let us keep doing what we do.
419. Mary-Terese Cozzola | May 12, 2008 at 9:47 am
If this goes through, there will be one less reason for people to visit the city of Chicago, to spend money here, to move here. Actually, there will be thousands less reasons.
Maybe the city thinks there’s a handy revenue stream here. Maybe they don’t realize that independent artists and presenters simply don’t have the resources to work under these conditions.
Yes, events need to be as safe as possible. Yes, you may need to add a small service fee or tax to finance hiring more inspectors to enforce the laws that are already on the books. But don’t make a move that will kill the cultural life here. The city can’t afford it.
420. Lindsay Muscato | May 12, 2008 at 9:48 am
As a member of the theater scene, I’m certain that small performance groups without their own venues or 501(c)(3) designations will not be able to comply with these regulations… this will stifle the very creativity and innovation that young people flock to Chicago for.
421. Vanessa Buccella | May 12, 2008 at 9:48 am
PLEASE do not pass this ordinance.
422. Mary Taylor | May 12, 2008 at 9:48 am
I don’t understand how this can be good for the city. It just hurts the little guy – in future all promotions to be exclusively handled by corporations? I don’t think so.
423. Brett Cross | May 12, 2008 at 9:48 am
let’s support local artist, not shut them out.
424. Brandon | May 12, 2008 at 9:50 am
The fine arts are extremely important, especially in Chicago. I think there were around 10+ theatrical groups at looptopia this year. I cannot and will not go to Chicago without theatre!!!
425. Ben | May 12, 2008 at 9:50 am
Well, let’s ignore for a moment the right to free assembly … while the law itself is ridiculous, punitive, and otherwise distasteful, it doesn’t worry me only because it’s unenforceable. That said – anything we can do to keep it off the books is worthwhile.
426. John Whitehead | May 12, 2008 at 9:51 am
This is my second comment but I feel I need to say a few more things.
I enjoy the smaller plays/concerts/comedy shows etc alot more in the smaller clubs/halls/church basements etc since they feel like you are more a part of the show than in a huge environment. I live in a community of 250, 000 and have on occasion put on shows here since it is one of the only ways to do it here unless you want to put on a show in a bar even thought the target audience isn’t old enought to attend the show in a bar.
The smaller venues are where the act that eventually become stars start and if they can’t set up there own tours or play smaller venues then there won’t bee to many up and coming performers coming from chicago since they will most likely move if this goes through.
Chicago has so much history with jazz, blues etc and this all started in the small clubs and halls for affordable prices.
I, along with many other CAnadians are becoming familir with these events and if something like this passes we are more inclined to go to New York or San Francisco where things like this don’t seem to be happening. I would hope that Chicago wants as many toursts from all over the world to come and if something like this passes then I’m sure it will be reduced by alot.
I personally can’t believe how something like this was brought up to begin with, the small promoters/clubs/bars/bands etc are the people who have the most heart and volunteer so much of their free time to keep culture alive and growing. Chicago should be very proud of this and shouldn’t try to limit something that has contributed so much to their identity.
I hope this doesn’t go through since some of the main reason I would like to go to Chicago are to go to the small theatres, clubs and venues of all sorts like the metro to see some historic venues.
Culture can’t grow if it is stiffled
427. Patti Hudak | May 12, 2008 at 9:51 am
There are ordinances in place, which if they were enforced would have prevented E2. This ordinance is offensive to the Chicago music scene.
428. Elizabeth | May 12, 2008 at 9:51 am
Please do not do this. It is important that Chicago continue to keep a vibrant artistic community. In New York, talented artists cannot work in the city unless they are able to make it onto Broadway or off-Broadway stages. They must audition, learn, perfect in New York only to get sent to other states to perform. I have always been proud that Chicago artists can work constantly while keeping their day jobs, apartments, and relationships. This is only possible because of the variety of venues and artistic organizations in the city.
429. Cyndi Elliott | May 12, 2008 at 9:52 am
This is stupid.
430. Barbara Lawrence | May 12, 2008 at 9:53 am
Please do not stifle creativity in Chicago. We know, from experience, that creativity and individuality in the arts do not always, indeed seldom, go hand in hand with monetary success. You will be cutting off an important part of what makes Chicago Chicago if you pass this ordinance. If you had done this years ago, we would have no Steppenwolf, Lookingglass, or other theatres of which the city is now so proud. Thank you.
431. Karen Ide | May 12, 2008 at 9:53 am
This makes no sense coming only when Chicago is becoming known as the First City, instead of the Second, for its variety of arts and cultural events. What are you thinking? I don’t know anyone who would support this. Please do not pass this ordinance.
432. Erica L Weiss | May 12, 2008 at 9:54 am
anything that makes it harder to produce cultural events in city like Chicago is a bad thing. It’s what keeps us in Chicago instead of NYC.
433. Luke Holladay | May 12, 2008 at 9:54 am
I strongly disagree with this proposed ordinance. Aldermen, vote this down.
-Luke Holladay
434. Carolyn | May 12, 2008 at 9:56 am
As a born and raised Chicagoan who left our fair city 28 years ago, my heart is still there. How could this ordinance possibly be considered. Art in Chicago is one of the many pleasures locals and visitors have enjoyed for years. In addition to the lost culture, consider the loss of revenue the city may encounter. This shall surely be greater than the license fees the council believes the taxes will provide. I DEFINITELY OPPOSE THE ORDINANCE!
435. Lindsey Cavitt | May 12, 2008 at 9:56 am
This cannot happen. As an individual who has put on several events in the city I absolutely protest this insane action. I have never profited from my promotions activities. I have raised money for children with cancer. I am also the Managing Director of a theater company that is small, and what we do in out free time. We made no profit to pay ourselves for our last show, and only paid for the show itself. The people of this city love Art and Music. This proposed action will destroy the freedom of artists, and those who love to see them, and watch them grow.
Lindsey Cavitt
Chicago Reader
436. becky sperry | May 12, 2008 at 9:57 am
This regulation would be a great loss to the city. If it had not been for the arts in chicago I would have never been able to do the radio show (college ) for 4 years. it is these smaller venues that allowed many of the great artist we have here in chicago to hone their crafts. When I think back on the people I interview over the years and are now star i first saw them at a small club.
437. Angela Kurtz | May 12, 2008 at 9:57 am
This is outrageous. This ordinance is basically saying that only artists and performers with money are allowed to perform, and this goes directly against the basis of our country – freedom of expression.
I can understand on what foundation this bill lies – safety – but if we allow our basic rights to be stripped away in the name of security (especially when it’s not something urgent or necessary) we will be left with nothing someday.
If you’re going to support the arts, support ALL of the arts, not just that section of it that has money. The world doesn’t revolve around currency, believe it or not.
438. Anthony Tavano | May 12, 2008 at 9:58 am
As a teacher, a musician, a fan of live music, and one who still supports kids getting involved in music, this ordinance will only hurt rather than help. I’ve already watched many smaller. grass-roots venues fall (the Fireside, the Studio, and the original Bottom Lounge to name a few), and it’s a shame. These venues give kids a positive, creative outlet to both see and perform their own work. This will stifle younger talent, create a monopoly for corporate juke boxes, and further strip Chicago of some of its best musical originality – its own citizens!
439. Debra | May 12, 2008 at 9:59 am
First schools can’t afford to keep the Arts programs alive and now they would like to stifle all the affordable and enjoyable small event venues that bring our local talent to the forefront. Why must everything come down to some bureaucrats collecting our hard earned dollars into their pockets-they don’t deserve a cut of everything! Keep our music alive in the places we love best and affordable for all to showcase themselves!
440. Tim | May 12, 2008 at 10:00 am
The city council really has other areas of major concern than dealing w/such an atrocity of a legislative bill here. As a working musician, this would certainly affect my already dwindling bank account. I will be a the city council meeting for sure
441. mcm | May 12, 2008 at 10:00 am
While I am certainly a proponent of safe and responsible entertainment, the language in this ordinance is way too vague to be supported. It could, theoretically, lead to many venues who have been responsible members of the artistic community (and, by extension, of Chicago) being unable to continue their work, which renders it unacceptable in my book.
442. Mike Facchini | May 12, 2008 at 10:02 am
Some of the greatest parts about this city are our art, music, theatre, and architecture. Take away any part of the above and we are no different than most mid-sized cities in the country. We need to keep the creativity and art alive in Chicago, and keep moving forward as a progressive city! Stopping the Promoter’s ordinance is a must.
443. George C Starr | May 12, 2008 at 10:02 am
Do not dilute Chicago’s importance as an internationally recognized artistic mecca with the “Disney-fication” of it’s music scene. People the world over come here for the specificity of the art created by DIY and local artists, not for the mainstream hackery they can get everywhere else. Support art, not the corporate promoters.
444. Margaret A Rendall | May 12, 2008 at 10:02 am
Please do not pass this ordinance.
445. Randy Lee | May 12, 2008 at 10:03 am
Yet another way for the Chicago Elite to squeeze tax rev out of its’ citizens/businesses.
there is no need for this ordinance to be passed.
446. James | May 12, 2008 at 10:03 am
Save the music, fight for the cause!
447. RBK | May 12, 2008 at 10:06 am
this is so stupid…why dont the make breathing illegal also?
448. Corri Feuerstein | May 12, 2008 at 10:07 am
As an artistic director of an eleven-year old theater company that helps feed Chicago’s homeless and hungry (Will Act For Food), as a member of a 15-tear-old theater company dedicated to producing original work (The Factory Theater), as an actor, a singer with local bands, a director and producer in the city I was born in: I cannot stand to see this ordinance pass. Chicago’s rich music and theater scene is what makes us unique and second to none. It is why people move here, why natives stay here and why tourists visit. Pass this ordinance, and you kill a thriving independent arts culture that will not kowtow to the profitability of mediocrity. On the news this morning when discussing the ordinance, I noticed the phrase “in order to prevent disasters like the E2 Nightclub.” One irresponsible club owner should not dictate the level of contribution from independent promoters in this city or any city. Do not pass this ordinance.
449. Emily Moe | May 12, 2008 at 10:08 am
This is ridiculous. It far oversteps the bounds of what government should do. This isn’t about public safety. It would not only stifle creativity but would also have a devastating effect on the economy. Without the rich cultural life, people will not want to live in the city. They’ll move elsewhere, and we need them to stay.
Not everything needs to be licensed in order to be safe!
450. Ian Wilson | May 12, 2008 at 10:09 am
I’m copying here the email I sent to my alderman this morning to reassert my strong opposition to the ordinance:
Dear Alderman Waguespack,
I am writing to express how crucially important it is for you to stop the Promoter’s Ordinance coming to a vote on May 14th. I’m an independent musician in your ward and I rely on self-promotion for events that would fall under the ordinance’s restrictions for my livelihood. As summarized by Sun-Times writer Jim DeRogatis and the Chicago Music Commission, the ordinance has been pushed forward in such a way as to exclude people with an expertise and an interest in the issues. Consequently, the ordinance would do nothing to address the problem of “underground promoters” and instead, unfairly and inaccurately target performers at established and legitimate Chicago music clubs.
I refer you to the Chicago Music Commission’s statement on the Sun-Times’ website:
http://blogs.suntimes.com/derogatis/2008/05/background_reading_on_the_prom_1.html
If you have not yet read it, I urge you to educate yourself on the unintended ramifications the ordinance would have. Thank you.
451. Brad Loving | May 12, 2008 at 10:10 am
Underground performance venues are an incredible asset to Chicago’s cultural fabric. Please do not jeopardize all that they provide for the community.
452. Sean Rafferty | May 12, 2008 at 10:10 am
Please do not pass this ordinance. It will be worse than when the city shut the movie industry out. It’ll kill Chicago’s wonderful music scene.
453. jos | May 12, 2008 at 10:11 am
NO WAY!!!!
454. Joyce | May 12, 2008 at 10:11 am
I truly enjoy the small venues Chicago has to offer. Some of the best entertainment is from those that are just starting out. Keep them in Chicago.
455. Val Leventhal | May 12, 2008 at 10:12 am
To the Chicago City Council:
As a member of Chicago’ arts community (for over 35 years), I object strenuously to the proposed ordinance to restrict event licensing in Chicago.
For every actor, artist and musician who manages get their career ‘above the radar’ into a larger venue there are thousands of us out here pursuing our art in our own way and adding to the richness of Chicago’s cultural scene.
Where are new talents to emerge from if there no small, independent venues available as proving grounds? Not to mention the potential for limiting free speech, including political speech, which often occurs at smaller events.
I hope you’ll vote no on this ordinance.
456. NickO | May 12, 2008 at 10:12 am
Don’t be retarded. Don’t sacrifice priceless culture just so someone’s step brothers cousins uncle can come in and set up shop to make a few bills off of selling yuppy mainstream culture.
457. Lindsay | May 12, 2008 at 10:13 am
This is a HORRIBLE idea. I am totally against it.
Lindsay Strong
458. Gil | May 12, 2008 at 10:13 am
Are we really putting a price on the ability to share and freely express creativity? How will artists be able to share music and art with the public if they don’t have this “license”? This ordinance will severely affect Chicago’s creativity scene and should not go into affect. Some of the things that make Chicago so great are the smaller performance venues. If artists don’t have access to them b/c of licensing then these smaller performance spaces will become extinct.
DON’T DO IT!
459. Alex White | May 12, 2008 at 10:13 am
Don’t let this ordinance go through! Chicago is known throughout the world as a music mecca, and this ordinance will destroy a rich culture that attracts countless bands and tourists to this town.
It’s offensive that the city would entertain this idea, especially since the E2 incident didn’t involve live band music and wasn’t closed down earlier because of corruption.
Please do not let this ordinance pass.
460. Jenny | May 12, 2008 at 10:13 am
This city just keeps getting more and more fascist. This one more nail in the coffin of culture.
461. Bill Roe | May 12, 2008 at 10:13 am
ridiculous! block this ordinance!
462. Robbie Q. Telfer | May 12, 2008 at 10:13 am
making the choice to be an artist is one many people do at the peril of financial stability – however this choice is often what leads an artist to struggle through an early period while finding their voice.
to add a financial and bureaucratic barrier to these essential members of our city’s artistic community just might make their decision for them: don’t become an artist.
as a nonprofit community organizer (youngchicagoauthors.org) i am horrified to imagine what this will do for the students i mentor, some of whom have to scrape together bus fare in order to even access the programs we offer.
and beyond young people, this seems like another reason to force out established artists to the coasts, where they’re already running to in droves.
i don’t know of any artist who would approve such a law unless they were already independently financially secure.
463. Christopher | May 12, 2008 at 10:14 am
Please, do not stifle creativity in this town. It is the last thing this city needs.
Christopher
464. Christian Picciolini | May 12, 2008 at 10:15 am
Passing an ordinance like this will virtually destroy the diversity and importance of an independent music scene. This will again put the power in the hands of the large promoters and completely cut out independent promoters from hosting bands that would have no way of showcasing their art. PLEASE DO NOT PASS THIS ORDINANCE! If you enjoy going to shows and discovering new bands, call your alderman or city official and tell them to vote NO.
465. Rina Mukh | May 12, 2008 at 10:15 am
Horrible, Horible, Horrible. Another way for City of Chicago to make money and have no liability.Boo.
466. Ellen Kamp | May 12, 2008 at 10:16 am
Please do not destroy what makes our city great. The myriad of choices in type and location of music and theatre not only makes Chicago an unbelievably rich source of culture, but assures that everyone has the opportunity to enjoy and participate in these art forms so necessary for a rich and satisfying life. Please don’t comoditize our entertainment and artistic expression options to the unaffordable and predictable.
467. davydka | May 12, 2008 at 10:16 am
BOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
468. Jim Benbow | May 12, 2008 at 10:17 am
Chicago needs enforcement of existing laws rather than a new, broader law that will unfairly hurt the legitimate music scene. I oppose this legislation and hope the Council will pursue more targeted and effective means of stopping unsafe events.
469. Alison | May 12, 2008 at 10:17 am
I thought Chicago took pride in it’s availability of different music /culture/art scenes. the thought of putting boundries on that makes me angry. i mean here we are all winter long, practically all year long, suffering through the cold…in dire need of new creative things to do in this city, and they’re actually considering taking this away from us!? give me a break.
470. Jon Scarpelli | May 12, 2008 at 10:17 am
the conversation with the alderman on Derogatis’ blog site is very telling, that alderman has no clue what’s going on out there and no clue on what this ordinance would actually do to the music scene.
he takes it so superfulously in this totally inane “battle to weed out the bad venues”. Bad venues? how about weed about the venues that don’t pay their entertainment? What bad venues? where are all these deaths occuring? I refuse to believe that venues are responisble for any unique portion of violent crimes or “fights” or whatever….
It’s totally reactionary. It’s totally short sided. It’s fascist.
471. Jason Aschenbrenner | May 12, 2008 at 10:17 am
One of the main reason I moved to Chicago was because of the amazing music scene. Chicago is a hub for hundreds of independent/underground acts while they are touring across the country. It is one of the only place where you can see great live music nearly every night of the week due to the huge network of smaller venues. My lease is up at the end of June and I am deciding between Chicago, and moving out to Seatlle…this ordinance would make my decision VERY easy! Please reconsider what you are doing!!! I would love to stick around!
472. rjw | May 12, 2008 at 10:17 am
Please stop this ordinance! It does not prevent anything except giving Chicago its rich culture and musical heritage.
It also another way for the City Of Chicago to extract money from the people who make the city great.
Shame on you.
473. irit | May 12, 2008 at 10:18 am
this ordinance may not be a big deal for larger companies, bands, etc. but, when a small band is playing in chicago on no budget just to get their name out and play their music, even a small amount of money makes a difference and can be the factor that prevents them from including chicago as a venue. we can find other things to tax.
474. David M. Milliner | May 12, 2008 at 10:18 am
Whatever happened to “The City That Works?” For once our City of Broad Sholders should reach out and support club owners, presenters, and promoters who bring a variety of cultural entertainment programs to a growing population of diversified cultures. This is what makes Chicago Work!!!
David M. Milliner
475. Jessica Bridges | May 12, 2008 at 10:19 am
PLEASE don’t pass this ordinance! Many people move to Chicago or visit Chicago for just the kind of cultural vibrance that you get from smaller venues, locally organized events, and local talent! Many of us prefer small, intimate venues and supporting the “little guy.” In the past 2 weeks alone I’ve been to 4 shows (supporting 4 different venues and 11 music acts) that would never have happened if this ridiculous ordinance was passed! Please take the time to think about what you’re doing and what the consequences would be for the future culture of Chicago.
476. Benjamin Goodman | May 12, 2008 at 10:19 am
Chicago has a unique and exciting music scene that attracts people and acts from across the country and pumps revenue into the city. Its is one of the defining features of the city and its culture! Don’t strangle it with this ordinance!
477. Matt Hohmeier | May 12, 2008 at 10:20 am
I’ve lived in Chicago my whole life and live music has always been a Major part of Chicago’s culture. To me this ordinance is just another avenue to SHAKE DOWN Chicagoans for revenue and load the pockets of the well connected. I understand Mayor Daley has his dirty business to run but this will totally kill the vibrant and much overlooked music scene in Chicago. Chicago is one of the few cities that on any night there are many live shows to choose from. This assault on art and culture has to be stopped.
Sincerely,
Matthew D. Hohmeier
478. Tiffany | May 12, 2008 at 10:20 am
Mayor Daley is ruining this great city the best he can & at lightening speeds. I’m really getting sick of his politics we are still leaving in a free country right? I’m starting to feel like our rights are being outplayed by a money hungry Mayor, driving all that is good out of Chicago! We need to stop this !!!
479. Rachel | May 12, 2008 at 10:20 am
This would be such a shame.
480. Sue | May 12, 2008 at 10:21 am
Horrible, nother way for City of Chicago to make money and have no liability.
481. Morgan S. Lewis | May 12, 2008 at 10:21 am
What would this ordinance do other than shut down all avenues of self and small scale promotion for artists of all, whilepadding city coffers with what seems to be a tax on independent expression? What has the independent music, theatre and arts scene done to deserve such arbitrarily severe treatment? Please do not pass this ordinance, if it passes you’ll be destroying a good chunk of what makes Chicago a world class city and brings many people to visit the city in the first place.
482. JT Newman | May 12, 2008 at 10:22 am
As someone whose work is presented largely in neighborhood and storefront venues (mostly small and mid-sized theater and music venues with no fixed seating), I know that this ordinance would put a serious roadblock in place for artists who are trying to self-produce and put their work out there. Don’t pass this! Please.
483. Rick Janes | May 12, 2008 at 10:22 am
As well as severely limiting the places musicians such as myself can play, this will also be a bane on Chicago’s tourist trade as it will affect the small clubs that attract visitors from every corner of the globe.
Everything from jazz clubs to blues bars will be unable to afford to feature the kind of music that has made Chicago famous around the world. On a more pragmatic level, this law would also lower tax revenues paid to the city as clubgoers flock to the suburbs for inexpensive live music.
I urge you to vote against this ordinance.
484. krisan | May 12, 2008 at 10:22 am
thats it, i’m moving to nashville. this is RIDICULOUS !!!
485. Michael Bond | May 12, 2008 at 10:23 am
this ordinance inhibits both culture and commerce in the city, with no benefit.
486. Seth Hitsky | May 12, 2008 at 10:23 am
I plead to Mayor Daley and our aldermen to better address the needs of Chicago’s music community before passing this ordinance.
487. Ana Barella | May 12, 2008 at 10:23 am
Such an ordinance would be painfully stifling to especially to emerging artists and dull us as a city on the world stage. I find it hard to imagine a city vying for the Olympics with one hand and wounding its arts community with the other.
488. Tom Roper | May 12, 2008 at 10:24 am
This ordinance is beyond wrong. Locally, I am highly involved as a musician in a number of VERY small-venue performances and extremely active at The Old Town School. Consider this my voice against this brain-dead ordinance designed to destroy one of the great things Chicago has going for it.
489. lee berkson | May 12, 2008 at 10:24 am
please add my name to list — just another example of:
“everytime some governmental agency makes a law, it’s a joke.”
490. TJ Travelbee | May 12, 2008 at 10:24 am
Absolute garbage – these ‘elected officials’ need to be hauled off in a police vehicle. Who is championing this ordinance? The only winners in this situation appear to be folks like ClearChannel who already monopolize the space. Just one more opportunity to stamp out the little guy.
491. Katie Boyer | May 12, 2008 at 10:26 am
if this ordinance is passed it will be a sad, sad, day in chicago.
it simply can’t happen.
492. Maria Pyra | May 12, 2008 at 10:26 am
this is unfair to local independent musicians.
493. debby fries | May 12, 2008 at 10:27 am
stop sticking it to the little guys by loosely defining “promoters” don’t pass this ordinance. stop planting so many damn flowers, that’ll generate revenue Daley!
494. Mae Salas Phillips | May 12, 2008 at 10:27 am
This is aweful. It’s not as if any of us have any money to begin with. I need my somewhat affordable performance spaces. Chicago needs it’s queer variety show fix!!!
495. Willis Kluzewski | May 12, 2008 at 10:28 am
In the past anything that poor people find to help make ends meet another group of people find a way to make it illegal; futermore, this will hurt the industry and make more and stuff happen outside of the city!
496. Bryan Delano | May 12, 2008 at 10:28 am
This wrongheaded, misguided legislation will only serve to erode Chicago’s vibrant music and arts scene. Surely problems with unscrupulous or disorganized promoters can’t be out-of-control to the point that this kind of law needs to be passed. This is a very poor idea that will cause much undue suffering for, of course, the smaller-scale venues, musicians and artists.
497. E | May 12, 2008 at 10:28 am
WOW, shame on you Chicago’s City Council. The people you want to extract money from are the people who should be getting the credit for the rich culture this City provides to the locals as well as tourism. I find it deplorable that you would even think about something like this considering the U.S. Economy. Did you even give thought to the fact that if these people are not given a chance to make a decent living in a city who has the highest tax rate in the country, they won’t be buying gas and pay the stupid high taxes we are exposed to. They’ll be moving out of their City homes because they won’t be able to afford their rent or mortgages. They won’t be reaching out to people like us who go out and spend the money to keep these businesses running. Get off your high horses and come up with a solution that works so Chicago can continue it’s “The City that Works” mantra vs. “The City that sucks the shit out of the people that make it work!!!! ” What’s the matter, a 10% sales tax isn’t enough?????????????
498. Jody Weinmann | May 12, 2008 at 10:29 am
One of the greatest assets of this city is the ease with which music, art, and theater can be made and shared with the public. Taking this away would be a tragedy.
499. Evan | May 12, 2008 at 10:30 am
This is outrageous! What makes Chicago so unique is its vibrant cultural scene, taking this away will only have an impact on citizens but also a detrimental effect to Chicago Tourism, and with the economy what it is now we need the tourism dollars!
500. Adam Krakow | May 12, 2008 at 10:30 am
This is a disgrace. Limiting small venue and self-promoted performances will deal a death blow to this city’s cutural scene. Chicago has been able to previously support a thriving music scene, but this will reduce it to only corporate-supported mega-venues that eliminate the smaller bands that make up the core of the local music scene.
501. Emma Adam | May 12, 2008 at 10:30 am
As someone who frequents small live music venues on a regular basis, I would hate to see a law such as this dampen the vibrancy of the Chicago music scene.
502. Armin Tamzarian | May 12, 2008 at 10:32 am
I oppose this.
503. Michael Mullowney | May 12, 2008 at 10:32 am
Chicago is one of the last American cities not suffering from cultural homogenization. Let’s keep Chicago unique and interesting. Stop the ordinance!!
504. Nicole Ainsworth | May 12, 2008 at 10:33 am
Unbelievable!!! If you care about what makes this city so unique, such a great place to live, such an incredible city to visit, you will never pass such an ordinance!
505. Wanda | May 12, 2008 at 10:33 am
Chicago will not be the same!!
506. Megon McDonough | May 12, 2008 at 10:33 am
Lo’ many moons ago and far away, legend has it that QE1 ordered her knights to “Hang all the harpers, and burn their harps beside them” knowing that if she could destroy the music of a culture, she could destroy the culture.
Alas, a Higher Power had other plans for the Irish and for Ireland.
Come on Chicago – connect a dot.
We’re so much bigger than this. We’re so much more hip on so many levels.
This is one more area to lead the way in.
Make art Make art Make art
507. Pascal Bodin | May 12, 2008 at 10:34 am
Since there is a huge concern about everyone’s safety, and since the insurance fees and license fees will become very lucrative…
will the insurance companies and the city sponsoring these locations and events?
508. Quenten Schumacher | May 12, 2008 at 10:35 am
I am against this ordinance. Please do not pass.
509. Nicole Prichard | May 12, 2008 at 10:35 am
This “event promoter” definition could apply to practically anything fun in Chicago, and it’s ridiculous to place such crazy requirements on all types of events.
510. Edward Lee | May 12, 2008 at 10:36 am
If you care about live events in Chicago you will NOT approve this new law. Its simply mad, how dare you stifle people who want to be creative and offer something that will be different from the mainstream. Chicago is dynamic and diverse, not some plain white bread city which is want you people are trying to make it!
511. Vanessa Bucella | May 12, 2008 at 10:36 am
PLEASE City Council do NOT pass this ordinance.
Keep chicago’s music scene safe and alive.
512. Bob Rashkow | May 12, 2008 at 10:36 am
This is too much. I am TOO THROUGH. Next they’ll be implanting those little chips in our brains. I thrive on small theatre, poetry readings, certain music venues, etc. What is happening in this city??? I am also a sometime poet and performer. This is an absolute outrage. If this happens we’ll all have to move to Canada or Europe–I fear this is precisely what these Mainstream Do-Bee’s want us to do. Bring back the sixties, goddammit!!!!
513. Cathleeem Schandelmeier | May 12, 2008 at 10:36 am
As a long-time producer and performer of small theaters, I find it hard to believe that our City Council could possibly take this ordinance seriously! So much of the wonderful theater we are proud of began small. Steppenwolf, the Second City…if something like this happened years ago, then we wouldn’t have the great art produced here that we have today. BLOCK this ordinance! It will kill our vibrant music and theater scene in Chicago.
Here’s to success, happiness and the joy of creativity expressed through Freedom of Speech in our great city!
Cathleen Schandelmeier
514. Tony Duffy | May 12, 2008 at 10:37 am
I have been fortunate in my 20 years as an event promoter to call Chicago home. My humble beginnings in the small venues that took a chance on me have led to where I am today on the National and International stage. This ordinance will effectively kill any chance anyone like me will have to embark on such a creative and entrepreneural journey. The City can easily accomplish its “stated” goals by enforcing the laws on the books currently and holding licensed venues accountable for safety and security. What’s more, our obvious voice and commitment to safety, security and lawful application of our trade must be acknowledged by our fair city.
515. Drew Alexander | May 12, 2008 at 10:37 am
Although I applaud the intent of the proposed legislation, I oppose the way it’s currently drafted.
516. Judy Keller | May 12, 2008 at 10:37 am
Chicago will lose it’s charm if this is passed.
517. Nick Panczyk | May 12, 2008 at 10:38 am
As a long time supporter/fan of the chicago music and entertainment scene, especially smaller and affordable venues, I find it appalling to see the lengths local government will go to further line there pockets at the expense of the public they supposedly serve. What public uprising brought this idea about???? Is this what the people of Chicago want, or is it self serving to Chicago government? Try increasing penalties for those who violate (E2). Not punish the innocent masses.
518. Andres Quiroga | May 12, 2008 at 10:38 am
ADD ME ON THE LIST.
STOP the promoters ordinance !!
519. Joel Gaeta | May 12, 2008 at 10:38 am
This is outrageous! I don’t understand what would even be solved by this ordinance. This is where the already established promotional companies step in and save the day… or maybe this is their doing.
520. Lauren S | May 12, 2008 at 10:38 am
I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED IN CHICAGO. I HAVE LIVED IN THE CITY LIMITS FOR OVER 21 YEARS.
There is many things to reflect the beauty of our city and one of the TOP ones is our artists.
People young and old come into the city just to see new artist in smaller clubs. To express there talent and who gets all the rewards? Chicago..tThe gas people use..even now the CTA and L trains are expensive.BUT they spend that to enjoy the music or theater. Chicago has built a great history on the Artists and Theaters.
If the larger theaters are threatened by the smaller more resonable rates that people rather see, then maybe they should lower there rates too!
I really am tired of the lastest City Counsel destroying everything their previous Counsels have worked for and made Chicago what it is.
How do they expect to have young talent grow? How do they expect these young people to keep their dreams? On the streets??????
521. John Hastie | May 12, 2008 at 10:39 am
This ordinance is a SURE way to make sure that music and culture produced in Chicago never gets a chance to develop or mature. Without relatively easy access to small local venues (and folks willing and able to book those venues), creativity inside the city will die on the vine and cause Chicago to become an artistic non-entity on the regional and national landscapes. Even if enacted and then repealed within a couple of years, this ordinance would cause a ripple effect that could take decades to recover from.
522. Geoff Isaac | May 12, 2008 at 10:39 am
As someone with over 25 years of experience in Chicago and suburban theater (participant, board member, patron) I must protest this misguided blunder of an ordinance. It will merely serve to kill off the majority of small to medium music, theater and cultural productions that have put Chicago on the map as an artistic center. And it will have little or no effect on safety or quality, which is its purported reason for being. This will be a huge step backward for what has become a world-class city, turning it into a small downtown area with a few large venues, surrounded by suburbs, and a vast cultural wasteland in between.
523. Kari Cieszkiewicz | May 12, 2008 at 10:40 am
Please do not stop the fun. This is the such an absurd ordiance. Going to shows is my life.
You are killing an era.
524. Daniel James | May 12, 2008 at 10:41 am
I oppose.
525. Gerald McLean | May 12, 2008 at 10:42 am
I oppose this legislation. Please consider ways to address your safety concerns that will not do such harm to the cultural scene — and by extension, the economy — of Chicago.
526. Veronika Kotlajic | May 12, 2008 at 10:42 am
This is outrageous and has got to be stopped. This is what you call supporting the local music scene and the arts?
527. Dave Kneip | May 12, 2008 at 10:42 am
I’m in a local rock band here and Chicago and have thrown a number of events at random venues across the metropolitan area. I’ve profited very little with both my band and with event planning, doing it only for the love of the game and to support the local arts scene in our “fair city”. If this ordinance passes, it will destroy the communication between the venues and the artists, and will make the largest impact on the small, original local artists who don’t have big business support. Looks like once again… it’s all about the money. I say dump it all into the lake.
528. T Thurston | May 12, 2008 at 10:42 am
Chicago’s thriving, independent arts scene is why myself and countless others ever came to this city in the first place. If this is enacted and enforced, expect a mass exodus of current Chicago artists, actors and musicians and a dearth of new artists moving in.
Sincerely,
T Thurston
529. kayla | May 12, 2008 at 10:42 am
This is ridiculous and very sad. The music scene is part of Chicago. This can’t be passed.
530. Shannon Reilly | May 12, 2008 at 10:43 am
Chicago is known for it’s music and culture while entertaining people of all financial statuses. Please don’t turn the scene into another corporate Chicago business that can only be afforded by the upper class.
531. Bilal Dardai | May 12, 2008 at 10:43 am
Dear City Council,
You have no idea what you are talking about doing. The very least you can do is apply that incompetence to something more worthwhile than strangling the local arts community.
Sincerely yours,
Bilal Dardai
532. RENEE KUFFEL | May 12, 2008 at 10:43 am
THIS IS NONSENSE….DO NOT PASS THIS!!!!
533. James Cornolo | May 12, 2008 at 10:44 am
Stop this ordinance! The effects on the musical culture here would be beyond devastating, not to mention the economy. What’s more is that an ordinance like this is completely unnecessary. STOP IT NOW!
534. Ace Frehely | May 12, 2008 at 10:45 am
This is bullshit, we are in CHICAGO not the middle of nowhere. Come on people! Move your asses.
535. Andrea Lee | May 12, 2008 at 10:45 am
Oh come on…what of the great things of Chicago is the many musical and cultural events that take place here!
Dont do this!
536. Quinn Goodwillie | May 12, 2008 at 10:45 am
Do not pass this ordinance. You’re destroying the music community.
537. Donald Ehrenhaft | May 12, 2008 at 10:46 am
This will effectively destroy Chicago’s independent art culture, for which this city is so well known. Chicago has made its name through innovation, hard work and personal innitiative. The art scene here is dependent on those principles. This oridance will leave our cultural development up to the wealthy and the bureaucrats; removing the voice of the individual from the equation. Young artists and any others who don’t have an intimate knowledge of the law, politics or financial means will be renered impotent in the arena of personal artistic expression. Please stop this, in the interest of culture.
538. Kara Tumminello | May 12, 2008 at 10:46 am
This ordinance would be absolutely slaughtering one of the most beautiful parts of Chicago. There is an unbelievably creative generation that uses performing as a way to express itself, meet others, and eventually pave way for many careers. The most successful way to do this is by grabbing hold and doing it oneself. Arguably the very essences of what makes Chicago such an incredible city would be unfairly destroyed if this ordinance passes. Not only would a large amount of revenue disappear, but one of the most unique and wonderful cultures to exist today.
539. Bob Windy | May 12, 2008 at 10:47 am
Please stop this ordinance.
It does nothing but take away our city’s wonderful small venue music scene and extract money from people making small venues diverse bookings possible.
There are less small venues now than when I moved to the city 25 years ago.
There is already enough legislation for these clubs.
540. Virginia Thomas | May 12, 2008 at 10:47 am
Chicago and music are irrevocably linked. To pass this ordinance would kill a part of what makes Chicago the vibrant city that I call home. For shame.
541. Jeremy Morgan | May 12, 2008 at 10:48 am
I strongly oppose this ordinance.
542. Steve | May 12, 2008 at 10:49 am
While I think that requiring a license for promoters is not in and of itself a bad thing, requiring what could amount to huge fees will simply make it impossible for the entrepreneurial artistic voice to thrive, and fingerprinting is a completely unnecessary and machiavellian invasion of people’s right to privacy and the pursuit of individual expression.
Some license? Possibly. This license? No way.
543. Wil Bruchmann | May 12, 2008 at 10:49 am
It would be a terrible decision for the city coucil to pass this bill.
I OPPOSE!
544. Chad robinson | May 12, 2008 at 10:49 am
Don’t rape the small time bands and promoters. Stop this ordinance.
545. Chris Benevich | May 12, 2008 at 10:49 am
Don’t forget you can call your alderman’s office if you don’t want to post online!
546. Sierra Peoples | May 12, 2008 at 10:49 am
Don’t pass the ordinance, it will hurt the city of Chicago and all of the artist we love!
547. Thomas Bailey | May 12, 2008 at 10:50 am
If this ordinance is passed, underrepresented youth in Chicago will have no platform for the screening and discussion of their community-focused videos. Currently we have between 4 and 10 community screenings of youth work every year, attended by 50 – 100 people. If our organization is forced to comply with these new regulations, these types of events will become impossible to hold.
548. Pat Bauer | May 12, 2008 at 10:51 am
I hope the aldermen have the good sense not to pass an ordinance that will cripple the music, theatre, and dance scenes that make this city so much more wonderful than any other for both performers and those who enjoy them.
549. Barbara Wong | May 12, 2008 at 10:51 am
Please stop this ordinance – it’s unnecessary. The city should work on putting it’s energy & time into making our neighborhoods safer. They should leave the music scene alone.
550. lou amodeo | May 12, 2008 at 10:51 am
power to the people! i mean, uh, power to the event promoters!
551. Bradley Jay Foutch | May 12, 2008 at 10:51 am
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
552. Michael Caulfield | May 12, 2008 at 10:52 am
As a local musician i STRONGLY oppose this ordiance and i think it would only create a stagnant creative enviroment.
553. Bryan McCann | May 12, 2008 at 10:52 am
I think this runs even deeper than culture. The stipulation about contacting police seven days in advance is really troubling and will likely give the notoriously corrupt Chicago Police Department greater ability to profile shows, etc.
554. Katie Haley | May 12, 2008 at 10:53 am
I oppose this ordinance. Safety at events is important, but stifling the majority of small venues and promoters that are already legitimate and safe is not the way to do it. These places are a huge part of what makes Chicago unique. We’re a world-class city made up of vibrant communities – don’t let cookie-cutter venues be only ones that can survive. Doing so will take away an essential part of Chicago’s culture that make it a popular destination for visitors and provides a vital outlet for those who live here.
555. Dawn O'Keefe Williams | May 12, 2008 at 10:53 am
What is the real agenda accept to make money. The profiteers of this ordinance the way it is currently written, would stifle the “creatives” as they call us. The city is hurting itself if they pass this. For example, the city annually puts on a Chicago Expo Artists in Residence. They provide incentives for us to move into some of the roughest areas of the city to “enhance” it with our creative works and our presence – yet this ordinance would prevent us from ever working there by possibly hitting us with excessive licenses and insurance fees. So…..why would I even want to work here let alone live here?? What’s MY incentive now??
It’s time to tell the city to quit being greedy. They are not thinking about how much revenue they would be losing in liqour sales, property taxes from clubs and cab fares for people who like to frequent the numerous venues that nurture artists. Or, maybe the city would like to subsidize the artists with a guaranteed salary.
556. Patrice | May 12, 2008 at 10:54 am
I go up to Chicago all the time for shows and this is definitely ridiculous. I am completely against this.
557. Kelsie Huff | May 12, 2008 at 10:54 am
I STRONGLY OPPOSE. THANK YOU.
558. K | May 12, 2008 at 10:54 am
If the passing of this bill destroys the city’s cultural scene, I’m gone. DO NOT PASS THIS!
559. Kevin Brown | May 12, 2008 at 10:56 am
Yet another “ordinance” that out of touch, holier than thou politicians have come up with to try and solve a budget crisis. As ridiculous as it is, it isn’t surprising at all. Trying to take money from people who don’t have it. How much sense does that make?
560. Jason Copeland | May 12, 2008 at 10:56 am
this is ridiculousssssssss.
add my name to the list. i’m fightin this.
561. Peter Mavrik | May 12, 2008 at 10:56 am
Chicago’s art scene should be celebrated for it’s vibrancy and not trampled down by laws that were written to absolve the city of responsibility because of a few people’s mistakes.
Block this ordinance!
562. Pam | May 12, 2008 at 10:56 am
I oppose this ordinance
563. Jeff Parker | May 12, 2008 at 10:59 am
Let’s keep the music flowing. Stop this madness.
564. Robby Zar | May 12, 2008 at 10:59 am
As a musician and administrator for a theater company I strongly urge you to reconsider this ordinance. Chicago thrives on the creativity of small theaters and independent musicians. Much creative energy will be thwarted by this ordinance.
565. Isaac Csandl | May 12, 2008 at 10:59 am
This ordinance sounds awful.
566. Jenny Lebrecht | May 12, 2008 at 11:00 am
Do we not have enough negativity to endure on a daily basis? Why must you take away our joy?
567. John Sabal | May 12, 2008 at 11:01 am
This is disgrace. I oppose this greedy, short sighted ordinance. It will turn Chicago into a generic and bland, average arts city.
568. Dan Koretzky | May 12, 2008 at 11:01 am
This is madness. Get your hands out of my pockets.
569. Justin Kirkeberg | May 12, 2008 at 11:03 am
Yet another way to stiffel the descendent voice. One of the reasons I moved to Chicago was the small venue theatre and music environment. If this voice is stiffeled I don’t see my self living in the city long.
570. Kristal Rivers | May 12, 2008 at 11:04 am
Clearly, someone has lost their minds. Chicago is known for it’s music. Should this ordinance pass, it will limit the small quaint venues that Chicagoans frequent. I prefer the smaller venue to the large concert scene. I guess I’ll stay home more.
571. Andrea Wedge | May 12, 2008 at 11:05 am
One of the things that makes Chicago great is the diverse musical scene. It’s one thing to go to Allstate Arena to hear the Foo Fighters or Weezer. It’s even more fun to hear bands at smaller, more intimate venues like The Riv, The Metro, and The Vic. Ticket prices are more affordable at these small venues and you are able to listen to great music without the thousands of people in the crowd. Please don’t take this away from us!
572. Gary James | May 12, 2008 at 11:05 am
There was a Simpsons episode where they filmed “Radioactive Man” in Springfield? Major Quimby kept coming up with ridiculous taxes such as “wearing puffy director’s pants tax”. Yeah its kind of like that. Its such an obvious no, that we should not even have to discuss this.
573. Gary James | May 12, 2008 at 11:05 am
There was a Simpsons episode where they filmed “Radioactive Man” in Springfield. Major Quimby kept coming up with ridiculous taxes such as “wearing puffy director’s pants tax”. Yeah its kind of like that. Its such an obvious no, that we should not even have to discuss this.
574. Catherine Adam | May 12, 2008 at 11:05 am
I strongly oppose.
575. Colby Beserra | May 12, 2008 at 11:06 am
This is a terrible, terrible idea. Why on earth does our city government want to make it harder and harder for independent minded artists — the heart and soul of our city’s scene — to produce their own work? If theidea is to locate all of the audiences downtown, it simply won’t work. that’s for the tourists. I have nothing against the big shows, mind you — it’s just not for the locals.
576. Joan Forest Mage | May 12, 2008 at 11:06 am
As the head of a small, not-for-profit 501(c)3 arts organization now in our 20th year, I oppose this ordinance. We would not be able to operate and bring the music and dance art that has enriched the city for so long.
577. Melissa Elias | May 12, 2008 at 11:08 am
Please do not pass this ordinance. It would destroy so much of what is amazing about Chicago. People from all over the world come to experience our thriving and diverse local music scene. It would devastate our culture and economy. It’s a really really bad idea. Please stop this now.
578. john Leadley | May 12, 2008 at 11:08 am
Please don’t.
Thanks,
JL
579. Karen Youkhana | May 12, 2008 at 11:09 am
This is outrageous exceeding the bounds of what is reasonable or expected.
Our great Mayor of the city of Chicago prides himself in furthering the city’s name as a cultural center.
If this is passed all his hard work will have been in vain.
We need in the city places were are kids can go to take part in music and the arts.
Our young people can not afford to go out to the suburbs nor do they have transportation.
We need to keep our city alive and our children close to home!
580. Oleg Simkin | May 12, 2008 at 11:09 am
Stop this ordanance.
581. Franky Vivid | May 12, 2008 at 11:09 am
One of the things that makes Chicago stand out among the metropolitan areas of the US has always been it’s commitment to and support of, the arts. One of the the things that attracts people to Chicago are it’s arts festivals, it’s theatrical events (off loop too), it’s neighborhood festivals and it’s public art.
Chicago is a fantastic place to own and operate a small promotion business. It’s typically been much more amenable to promoters than New York, Los Angeles and many other major cities. For that reason, it has actually ATTRACTED promoters from all over the world to coordinate and promote some of the most stellar artistic musical, theater and cultural events ever…and on an international scale.
For the entirety of it’s cityhood, Chicago has implored the world at large to think of it as an international city of culture, to rebuff the “cow town” image that has plagued us in the past. And in the art, theater and music community it HAS gained that ground over the last 50 years. Why? Because of the spirit of it’s promoters and boosters and the tenacity of the work ethic that they’ve employed.
To approve this ordinance, especially in this economic climate, be detrimental to not only the culture in Chicago, but to the livelihoods of tens of thousands of Chicago residents. It would greatly affect the job market and the economy.
Think of just this example: In this economy EVERYONE is struggling. Bars and nightclubs are hard pressed to get people through the doors. So they hire independent promoters who’ve put a veritable lifetime into honing their skills of doing just that. These events are paid for directly by the bar so that the people who come through the doors might spend money. It’s an arrangement that works and stimulates the local economy. If the bars cannot do this, they are screwed as well. Not only will the promoters lose their jobs, but the bars will lose their crowds. If a bar is forced to hire a promoter whose gone through all the expenses of this ordinance, who do you think the costs will be passed on to? The crowds. If the price of a drink doubles, they’ll stop coming.
The smoking ordinance (something I’m HIGHLY in favor of, by the way) has already put a great strain on the local entertainment industry. We can figure out how to recover, but not as easily if we’re delivered this final blow of the promoters ordinance. Entire neighborhoods like Wicker Park, Lakeview, Lincoln Park, Old Town, Pilsen and the South Loop will die. There will be little there to attract home buyers to an already failing housing market.
This just doesn’t make sense. I don’t see the justification for it. It seems mean spirited and thoughtless. At best it seems irresponsible and at most malicious.
With the passing of this ordinance, the City can effectively strike one blow that will shatter the cultural fabric of Chicago. Please do NOT support this.
582. Carrie J. Sullivan | May 12, 2008 at 11:10 am
As Executive Director of the an off-loop, not-for-profit theater company (The Factory), ordinances like this leave me feeling very worried about what kind of further clamp-downs could follow. We need to make it easier, not harder, for our artists and musicians to perform.
583. Alex Kramer | May 12, 2008 at 11:10 am
Do not pass this ordinance. This would completely ruin the live music scene that makes Chicago so great.
584. Ken Barnard | May 12, 2008 at 11:11 am
Music, Comedy, Theater – Chicago is a great breeding ground for innovative ideas in all fields. This innovation hinges upon the smaller venues that compose the proud patchwork of Chicago’s artist community.
Keep Chicago innovating. Don’t approve this ordinance.
-Ken Barnard, comedian
585. Tamara Caronti | May 12, 2008 at 11:11 am
This is insane.
586. John | May 12, 2008 at 11:12 am
Please stop this ordinance.
587. Mary Anne Hagedorn | May 12, 2008 at 11:12 am
This whole thing reeks of extortion and unnecessary bureaucracy solely designed to squeeze a little more blood from the small venue stone. Chicago is one of the most vibrant, creative cities in the world, in large part because it is also a cultural petri dish that allows new creative forms in music and theater to grow. Strong-armed “laws” like this ensure that Chicago’s creative scene will become the equivalent of a strip mall. This cannot be allowed to proceed, particularly not without any input from the citizenry. Stop this.
588. Randy Moe | May 12, 2008 at 11:13 am
The proposed ordinance is overbearing and has no provision for small venues and beginning artists.
Big Brother is here.
589. Christina Alexis | May 12, 2008 at 11:13 am
So the city of Chicago seeks encroach upon the little culture this city has? Would like some share of the small profits made by small-time event promoters, would you? Taxpayers aren’t paying enough in this city? Bottom line is this: I know I’m only one person (but one of many) who feel that beyond the club, music, food/ beverage, film, arts scene here in this midwestern city- there is no culture. This is a bland, sterile city of non-progressive lawmakers who live in the past. If this ordinance passes, you will be putting many small, self-starting businesses out of business. Let me put this in the only terms this city’s government understands: that’s bad for the city’s economy- period. If this ordinances passes, I’m moving out of this silly city. Because that ordinance proves that Chicago is just a big city, still stuck in a midwestern, old-time, frame-of-mind.
590. Drew Zerman | May 12, 2008 at 11:13 am
while i would like to hear the reason for this ordinance (as i can’t believe the city council is just a pool of evil making evil decisions for evilness), from what i understand this seems to be a superfluous and bad idea. as a struggling performer myself, i know how hard it is already to get a good show going, to get people to show up and to get a place to book you. this is just one more giant freaking hoop we’re all going to have to jump through and the addition of this cost is going to break a few people and places. so if it ends up significantly altering the independent arts scene for the worse, then the ordinance is doing more harm than good. i vote no.
591. Elise Hutchinson | May 12, 2008 at 11:15 am
My weekends consist of going to venues like Metro, Schubas, and the Elbo room. Most of the big bands out there creating some of the best music came from places like these. To rid us of them would rob future generations of musicians the chance at something bigger. Besides which Chicagos local music scene is awesome. So many great bands are coming out of this town. This is nothing but a way to suck culture out. It’s sick to hear that unless you’ve got cash, you don’t have anything. I seriously think this ordinance needs more thought.
592. Angie Moreno | May 12, 2008 at 11:15 am
I do not agree with the proposed “Event Promoters” ordinance in Chicago. This will limit musicians, venues and promoters that are already struggling to make events happen in Chicago. This city is known for its diverse cultural arts and proposing this insane and regulated ordinance will only hurt the music scene in Chicago. – Angie Moreno
593. Kevin Carroll | May 12, 2008 at 11:16 am
Mr. Tunney
You know this ordinance would be detrimental to the city in an irreversible way. Chicago would lose the very aspects of its allure to transplants looking to enjoy and enhance the blossoming cultural landscape this city can currently, and hopefully permanently, boast.
594. Marc Boggio | May 12, 2008 at 11:16 am
Music, art, etc is one of the reasons why Chicago is such a great city and now they are trying to take it away? Smart thinking….
595. Joshua Gleave | May 12, 2008 at 11:17 am
This is silly, and a violation of basic human rights; to rock and roll where they please.
596. Lucy Smith | May 12, 2008 at 11:18 am
Add my name to the list. There are ways to address the concerns raised in the proposed ordinace without penalizing those who prioritize theatre and music. Open the dialogue so we can continue to be proud of our city.
597. Tom Neubauer | May 12, 2008 at 11:18 am
As an event producer and promoter for over 15 years, I guarantee this will stifle many unique and interesting events and entertainment options in Chicago. This is a very large step in the wrong direction for turing Chicago into aworld-class city.
598. Karen Youkhana | May 12, 2008 at 11:19 am
This is outrageous exceeding the bounds of what is reasonable or expected.
Our great Mayor of the city of Chicago prides himself in furthering the city’s name as a cultural center.
If this is passed all his hard work will have been in vain. We need in the city places where are kids can go to take part in music and the arts.
Our young people can not afford to go out to the suburbs nor do they have transportation. We need to keep our city alive and our children close to home! ~Karen Youkhana
599. Zev Valancy | May 12, 2008 at 11:19 am
Dear Chicago Aldermen,
Please vote against this destructive ordinance. It would risk major harm to the city’s extraordinary arts scene. Many venues that are central to the city’s cultural life are barely hanging on financially. This fee might put them over the edge into bankruptcy. I am curious as to what the rationale for this is–what good could it possibly do? I doubt, however, that any good it would do could outweigh the severe harm it risks. Please do the responsible thing and vote against this amendment.
Zev Valancy
600. Adam Vass | May 12, 2008 at 11:19 am
This ordinance could easily crush a thriving underground music scene that involves so many people in Chicago.
Continue opposition to this bill and hopefully, we can preserve the Chicago blues scene, underground indie and punk scenes, and all other small music scenes in danger that make the town a musical stronghold.
601. Jennifer McGee | May 12, 2008 at 11:19 am
This is terrible. As an Artistic Director of a small, independent theatre company, an ordinance like this could inhibit us from ever producing another show. Chicago is known for its small theatre companies. Why are you now tryng to discourage artistic expression? Please do NOT pass this ordinance!!!
602. Jeffrey McHale | May 12, 2008 at 11:20 am
Its important we keep small artists and venues alive and running. We don’t need to give people another reason to move from Chicago to LA or NYC. Keep the talent we have here.
603. Paul H Downs | May 12, 2008 at 11:21 am
The recent tax hikes, new ordinances such as this one, aldermen (such as Todd Stroger) recent actions being vilified by the mayor, lends one to believe the next population drop from Chicago will come very, very soon if it isn’t happening already. It seems to happen every 20 years with Chicago, like it or not. Look at the 1970′s and early 1980′s? Wicker Park was actually a dangerous place to be! Now it is a sprawling place of commerce and entertainment, something cities thrive on, duh! The suburbs, (where I came from) are now looking to be much more of a easier place to survive.
604. Frank Mauceri | May 12, 2008 at 11:21 am
Hey-we can’t let this happen. Please contact your alderman and let them know that you oppose the legislation and the alderman should as well.
605. david jordan | May 12, 2008 at 11:21 am
as someone who works with and knows a few actor in the city I am whole heartedly against this ordiance. this city is known for it’s great and suportive community all over the world it would be a real shame to this city if this is aloud to pass a city that kils its art is a city that is dead inside
606. brett moschel | May 12, 2008 at 11:22 am
I love Chicago and its culture. The outstanding music that is played as our small venues happens to be an important source of cultural pride. We have this beautiful thing which we should not take for granted. I am completely against this “Event Promoters” ordinance.
607. Crystal Riley | May 12, 2008 at 11:22 am
I can’t believe that something like this would even be considered! That is one of the fantastic things about Chicago, the fact that there is fantastic local theater, music, etc. It gives people who otherwise wouldn’t have the chance to see something like this the ability to ~ at a lesser cost that the big theaters charge! This can not be allowed to go through!
608. Cheri | May 12, 2008 at 11:23 am
Dear City Council,
The Arts in Chicago – all sizes at different venues, is what makes us such an interesting and cultural city. Don’t limit the arts by this ordinance. It is hard enough for the arts community to exist now given how slim the funding for arts and culture is – our small venues give rise to some of the most impressive works and voices in the arts world. Don’t put another restriction – and a price tag – on the arts, it gives too much back to our community.
609. Nicole Holmes | May 12, 2008 at 11:23 am
This can’t be allowed! As a lover of music, supporter of local events and friend of many artists and promoters old and new, I was greatly disappointed to learn of an effort that threatens the vital appeal that local entertainment provides for this city.
This ordinance will definitely discourage entertainers to perform and potentially push the revenue, tourism and business to suburban venues, and possibly eliminate some basic performance options altogether for people who live and work in the city. We won’t even speak of the detriment it would do to artists trying to make an honest living in a highly competitive world.
If anyone out there has a conscience this should not be allowed to pass.
610. adam scott | May 12, 2008 at 11:25 am
I am against this law. It will make the music scene bland. Musicians will not tour here and will leave for New york and LA to peruse their careers!!! Chicago is in danger of becoming a really culturally uninteresting city. If we loose the small, cutting edge, fresh, and underground venues, Chicago will be no different than the surrounding suburbs . . . what makes a city good is that it takes chances with the unknown . . . if this law passes then Chicago will not just be the “Second City” but the 3rd city behind Los Angeles.
I am 100% against this legislation . . . .
611. Karen Youkhana | May 12, 2008 at 11:25 am
This is outrageous exceeding the bounds of what is reasonable or expected.
Our great Mayor of the city of Chicago prides himself in furthering the city’s name as a cultural center.
If this is passed all his hard work will have been in vain. We need in the city places were are kids can go to take part in music and the arts.
Our young people can not afford to go out to the suburbs nor do they have transportation.
We need to keep our city alive and our children close to home! ~Karen Youkhana
612. Brian Costello | May 12, 2008 at 11:27 am
I strongly oppose this ordinance.
613. Erica Stone | May 12, 2008 at 11:27 am
Chicago cannot be a cultural center without all the unique small events that happen every week! This ordinance takes away the cultural spontenaity that makes Chicago a world-class city.
614. Ontolon | May 12, 2008 at 11:28 am
Yes I can claim ignorance to the exact wording in the ordinance proposed, but to respond to what is on this page, I can surmise that this proposal effectively allows the people with the proper credentials and funds to put on the shows charge more for the shows they promote so they can afford the fees. Who are these people that are pre-approved for promoting these shows (if the ordinance is passed)? This creates an economy that caters to only the richest acts can come preform. This may mean that the music scene is corporate sponsored, meaning only corporate music can preform in Chicago. This is tantamount to censorship on a scale where only the rich and therefore privileged can show in this city. The question is, how many other major cities are doing the same thing? This seems to be going with the trend that says, “The right to freedom is through your wallet.” Because if you can pay, you can get away with anything. Also read into this effect: Who benefits from this ordinance? Apparently, all of my favorite small venues will suffer because they may not be able to afford to have the shows they had in the past. No one will pay $50 plus to see a band they’ve never heard before at the Double Door! The Empty Bottle, an institution for having many out of the ordinary acts including the best the underground has to offer, will probably have to stop having shows. Park West: one of the finest listening rooms will no longer be able to host the excellent acts that have played there! The Abbey Pub: Can they afford to show my favorite bands as well as host ‘our’ art shows? This ordinance will actually deter class acts that Chicagoans crave from coming and preforming. This Ordinance will cause bands like Radiohead to boycott Chicago if they were to hear of these outrageous laws.
615. James Klock | May 12, 2008 at 11:29 am
I’m absolutely against the ordinance requiring licenses for “event promoters”, and feel strongly that it would result in a dramatic reduction in the exceptional breadth of entertainment in Chicago, whose rich traditions have influenced the arts on a truly global scale. Chicago is known worldwide as the capital of improv comedy and our own style of blues– both of these styles of artistic expression have survived and grown through the same small venues that this ordinance would target.
616. MARLENE SWOBODA | May 12, 2008 at 11:30 am
Hundreds of thousands of people for 50+ miles from Chicago rely on the art & entertainment scene of Chicago, especially the enormous diversity of choices.
Why would such a beautiful & exciting city want to hinder this experience.
What’s the purpose behind doing this????
If the real purpose is for the greater good then there ought to be a way to protect citizens without destroying the diversity of their experiences.
617. Abbie Torgeson | May 12, 2008 at 11:30 am
These great venues are barely recognized and promoted by the city as an integral part of Chicago’s culture; this is how we acknowledge them? This is what gets them into the news? Shame on you.
618. Chris Siebold | May 12, 2008 at 11:30 am
What the fuck is this world coming to?! This cannot be passed. The entire arts community will be strangled to death all because of some “new way” to generate revenue for the city. Maybe if Chicago managed it’s budget AT ALL! this wouldn’t be up for consideration in the first place. It’s all just political greed and if there ever was a time to take to the streets, it’s now. What does some fat-assed, old, hateful state legislator know about culture? What about up-and-coming teen rockers, actors, etc.. I refuse to accept “Wicked” or “Jersey Boys” as high art.
619. Sharon Lewis | May 12, 2008 at 11:31 am
For God’s sake, as if it isn’t hard enough or the competition outrageous enough already for Blues musicians, we need this? The government is bleeding us dry on every level. For the City of Chicago to come up with this hair-brained scheme is so utterly, Chicago at it’s worst! Let’s stop’em cold!
Sharon “Texas Fire” Lewis
620. Todd Klebenow | May 12, 2008 at 11:31 am
I strongly oppose this ordinance.
621. Jeb Bishop | May 12, 2008 at 11:32 am
This is a terrible idea. The entire musical community that I am part of exists here only because of the opportunities for performance in places that would be wiped out by this law. If it becomes impossible to work here, a lot of musicians are going to leave.
And I can’t believe I’m only hearing about this now. The lack of public input and transparency is disgusting. I wonder how the people behind this think it is going to be beneficial to Chicago.
622. Shelley Howard | May 12, 2008 at 11:32 am
I stronger urge all aldermen to stop any action that would do anything to affect the growth of Chicago Culture. We need more art, and less laws/
623. Daniel | May 12, 2008 at 11:32 am
Terrible idea, this would have such a negative effect on Chicago culture.
624. Michael Haeflinger | May 12, 2008 at 11:32 am
No no no no no. No!
625. Esmeralda Leon | May 12, 2008 at 11:36 am
I find this outrageous. This just seems like another way to ruin it for bands who are just trying to make a name for themselves in the Chicago music scene. I know so many bands that if it wasn’t for all those smaller shows at the venues with 10 people at them, they wouldn’t be where they are today. Playing and setting up your own shows is how you pay your dues. If this ordinance goes through, Chicago officials will have lost the little respect I had for them. This is terrible.
626. Olya | May 12, 2008 at 11:36 am
It will be a sad day for this city if such law is passed, especially in today’s society where mainstream media is filled with ‘Britney Spears’ and alike.
To make it difficult and costly for indipendent artistic groups to perform is to kill the cultural spirit this city is known and famous for.
Shame on those individuals who are trying to capitalize on people whose only goal is to share their talents and passion with the rest of us and making our lives brighter.
627. Peter Kremidas | May 12, 2008 at 11:36 am
This is absurd. It will turn Chicago into a rich Man’s Indianapolis.
628. Peter Black | May 12, 2008 at 11:37 am
i have a career because of the determined young promoters in Chicago abo 20 years ago. perhaps things have changed, but surely a new cadre of motivated, talented young people are carrying the torch. i’d hate to see their progress stunted by greed, and red tape. this from a multi platnum award winning writer/producer, who would have nothing were it not for Chicagos’ support. dont tamper with what works.
629. Jamie Link | May 12, 2008 at 11:37 am
This is ridiculous!! Just another way for the city to try and make money. I know a lot of Bands, Dj’s, and promoters that would never be able to afford such high business costs. If this makes it to law then they are up the creek!! Please help them!!
630. Jason Adasiewicz | May 12, 2008 at 11:38 am
This is very frightening! Aldermen, Please vote NO on this ordinance. Chicago’s music scene is one of the most influential communities in the world. Please support us.
631. Daniel Morgan | May 12, 2008 at 11:38 am
I have been attending concerts at small venues for the past 24 years and would be extremely upset if I could no longer do that due to some bureaucratic BS. I oppose this.
632. Ephraim martin | May 12, 2008 at 11:38 am
For more than 27 years thru the Chicago Music Awards and other means we have been trying to keep the music and culture in the forefront of entertainment in this great city. We discovered that the smaller clubs and special events play a vitial role in attracting tourists from the midwest and other parts of the country, and from overseas, for the wealth of live music available only in this city.
Clubs like: kingston Mines, Metro, Wild hare, Buddy Guy’s, Double Doors, Velvet Lounge, Checker Board and Cubby Bears, to name a few, have brought in millions of dollars yearly to enhance our local economy.
The city must seek ways and means to assist event promoters to keep them going, rather than to make it more difficult!
We are calling on the City Council to refrain from passing this new law, as it is not in the best interest of the city or the event promoters.
Sincerely,
Ephraim
633. Mike Adamson | May 12, 2008 at 11:38 am
Live music in small venues is one of the things Chicago was built on. Where did Muddy Waters and Buddy Guy start? In small venues. What about Wilco, Smashing Pumpkins, Kanye West and even Chicago? Small venues. Chicago is known for its music. Every great band starts small — don’t make it impossible for Chicago artists to reach the national scale.This would do serious damage to tourism and the economy.
634. Joyce Mangelsdorf | May 12, 2008 at 11:39 am
Wrong on so many levels! This is all about greed.
635. Katie Speth | May 12, 2008 at 11:40 am
One of the benefits of raising children, especially teenagers, in the city is bounty of cultural events available to everyone. Why would the City Council take that away from us? We don’t want to raise our children in a dull, lifeless environment devoid of culture. Neither do we want others making the choice of what is and is not going to be available because permits go to the highest bidder.
636. joey swanson | May 12, 2008 at 11:41 am
This ordinance needs to be stopped!
637. jim mccann | May 12, 2008 at 11:42 am
i oppose this ordinance!!!
638. nikhil trivedi | May 12, 2008 at 11:42 am
as a musician myself who organized my own shows, this ordinance would make it enormously difficult for me to share my creativity and expression with others. there are a lot of small-scale cultural performances that happen in the city every that provide spaces for emerging artists to showcase their talent, and many that cater to artists of a particular ethnic community (voices of resistance hosted by sapac, any yawp! event, maahaul.org house concerts, to start). it would be big dent to communities of color in chicago to no longer have events like these!
639. Thomas J | May 12, 2008 at 11:43 am
The way this thing is worded leaves it far too open. Please don’t let Chicago become the town that smaller independant bands avoid. I oppose this ordinance!
640. Tim McCormick | May 12, 2008 at 11:43 am
Please bring some common sense and forethought to the discussion. I’ve heard from many promoters that this ordinance will effectively kill much of what they’re so passionate about. Please think this one through and listen to promoters and the like on how badly this will affect them.
641. Natalie Conlon | May 12, 2008 at 11:43 am
That is a horrible idea.
642. Sean Monahan | May 12, 2008 at 11:43 am
This type of bureaucracy is guaranteed to stifle the vibrant theater & music scene that differentiates Chicago from NY & LA. If this should become an ordinance, there should be no exemptions for larger venues, as those are the ones that would most require oversight. Don’t ruin Chicago.
643. Richard Watters | May 12, 2008 at 11:44 am
This is ludicrous! Politics as usual in Chicago…it is becoming the city of too many ordinances! It seems the city government is trying to generate revenue without thinking things out regarding the impact these laws will have on their citizens and the city’s culture in general. I hope it gets defeated.
644. Sam Fels | May 12, 2008 at 11:44 am
This is simply ridiculous. All the great little spaces to see live music, or comedy, or theater are what make Chicago the best place to live, and this will destroy it. For the love of God don’t do this.
645. Stacy Chesney | May 12, 2008 at 11:45 am
This is cruel and unnecessary. It’s only another ploy from our wonderful city to squeeze every last penny out of it’s citizens in any way possible. Stop trying to squash art and realize that art is what makes this city so great.
646. Keith Monzingo | May 12, 2008 at 11:45 am
Please add me to the list of Chicago resident who DO NOT WANT to see the bill passed. This will certainly cause great harm to the smaller venues, which in turn will cripple to independant art community, in all it’s performance facets.
Keith Monzingo,
Chicago resident
647. krystle burmylo | May 12, 2008 at 11:46 am
this is obviously all about money. they just want to find a way to get money from house shows, and if they can’t, then shut them down. bullshit.
648. Stefan Platzer | May 12, 2008 at 11:46 am
I brag about Chicago around the world for it’s thriving music and performing arts scene. This is what makes Chicago stand out as a city, this is what visitors love about the city. Passing this ordinance is like shooting yourself in the foot.
649. Graham Hoppe | May 12, 2008 at 11:46 am
This is an outrageous idea, if this passes the city will be committing cultural suicide. The city council should realize that the arts and culture bring people into this town from all over the country, and this will close that door.
650. Eric | May 12, 2008 at 11:46 am
Of course, another way to attack artists. We are always the first target. Please add me to the petition.
651. Matt | May 12, 2008 at 11:48 am
This is ridiculous!!!! Not only will this hinder numerous talented individuals from all over the globe within music, it will hinder theatrical arts as well. An ordinance of this nature kills a unique and healthy subculture, that should be exploited rather than demoted.
652. Sean | May 12, 2008 at 11:48 am
Why make it harder for the performers who still have day jobs and are doing it out of love and passion?
Make a lot of people happy today and stop the ordinance!
653. Mike Lynskey | May 12, 2008 at 11:48 am
Don’t let this pass.
654. Kendra Stevens | May 12, 2008 at 11:48 am
I very strongly oppose this ordinance!!!!
655. Boris Kenton | May 12, 2008 at 11:49 am
This ordinance needs to be stopped. And Uncommon Ground needs to get a performing license & pay the musicians that play shows there–not just pass a tip jar.
656. Craig Miller | May 12, 2008 at 11:49 am
NOT COOL.
657. Lynn Zimmers | May 12, 2008 at 11:49 am
How cAn A city with such A beAutiful, diverse culture wAnt to stifle it? Don’t they know thAt people do these things for the Artistic vAlue And not for the $? Are they going to mAke hAving A plAy be illegAl, just like smuggling drugs? Ridicilous.
658. catalina damian | May 12, 2008 at 11:50 am
this stupid ordinance will destroy such a beautifully creative culture. it CANNOT happen.
please vote NO and let creative expression continue.
659. Emily Hinman | May 12, 2008 at 11:50 am
Don’t take away what makes Chicago the only interesting/beautiful thing around the Illinois/Indiana/Michigan area.
660. Bobby B | May 12, 2008 at 11:51 am
As a writer who also performs live hybrid theater events at small venues all over the city this has to be stopped. It will destory a huge part of the culture of the city I love. Do not pass this law.
661. Scott | May 12, 2008 at 11:51 am
Add my name to this list!
662. Noah Durham | May 12, 2008 at 11:51 am
This would be extremely detrimental to Chicago’s thriving theatre scene. Chicago has hundreds of small theatre companies which help to make the city hub for culture. This would be a huge mistake for the city.
Noah Durham
Trap Door Theatre
http://www.trapdoortheatre.com
663. Kristy Mangel | May 12, 2008 at 11:51 am
please add my name to the petition. i will also be contacting my alderman.
664. Christopher Thieme | May 12, 2008 at 11:52 am
Finally! The city council is finally tackling the problem most dear to the heart of Chicago. There just hasn’t been enough available real estate for opening new Starbucks! Kudos!
665. shreyasshah | May 12, 2008 at 11:52 am
This is bad policy, plain and simple. It will do NOTHING to enhance public safety in the city’s venues and nightlife establishments, and it may have the opposite effect.
After attending a hearing on the ordinance last year, I realized that the ordinance’s proponents suffer from a fundamental misunderstanding regarding the relationship of venues and outside event promoters.
When an event promoter promotes a night for a venue, the venue does not put the event promoter in charge of providing security, adhering to the fire code capacity, or in control of the entrance. These responsibilities should and ALWAYS do rest with the venue.
Event promoters exist to provide creative direction and marketing services for the venue, not security services.
Creating a policy where the event promoters can be held liable for safety violations will encourage venues to neglect their primary responsibility: to provide security and maintain public safety for their patrons in their establishments.
My company, though not an event promoter, produces 2 – 4 events every month with various venues across the city. We have NEVER been in control of how many people get in or how many security personnel are on site at any of the venues with which we have worked.
And here’s a dirty little secret that I will divulge: almost all nightclubs in this city regularly break fire code capacity on the weekends. That is the decision that the venues make and that they are in control of, NOT THE EVENT PROMOTERS. The city should be going after the venues for these violations of public safety regulations, not the event promoters. Vigorous enforcement of existing laws is the solution, not over-regulating small businesses, and that is what the city should be focusing on.
And what’s additionally troubling is that it seems to favor large venues and large event promoters while placing financial and regulatory burdens on small venues and promoters. This ordinance will stifle competition in the event and nightlife industries and drive small companies and young entrepreneurs out of business.
666. Jill | May 12, 2008 at 11:52 am
I oppose this ordinance. I agree that safety at public events is important, but requiring funds and a finger print is not the best way to ensure it.
I would also be extremely disappointed to see Chicago’s burgeoning and vibrant arts community stifled by our own City Council. Our leaders should be working to protect our unique arts and culture community – not destroy it.
667. Steve Sposato | May 12, 2008 at 11:52 am
Please vote against this ordinance.
668. Amy | May 12, 2008 at 11:53 am
signing the petition.
dont kill indie music!
669. Joe Principe | May 12, 2008 at 11:53 am
I play in the band Rise Against. Without smaller venues and the ability for us to book our own shows in VFW halls we wouldn’t have been a band longer then a year. We started this band when we were very young which means we wouldn’t have been able to pay for insurance and permits, etc……I know bands like Fallout Boy, Alkaline Trio, Smashing Pumpkins, Naked Raygun all started like us. Imagine growing up in a city that doesn’t allow our youth to have their own scene. Please reconsider this ordinance.
670. Leida | May 12, 2008 at 11:54 am
Theatre is what makes the City of Chicago beautiful and exciting. Take away theatre for the general population that you’ll be left with an empty cultural hole.
Stop the ordinance!
671. Japes Palles | May 12, 2008 at 11:54 am
Please don’t threaten small businesses. Allow artists to perform uninhibited from unfair regulations!
672. Kyle Kramer | May 12, 2008 at 11:55 am
Cheeky bastards.
673. Jon Hardman | May 12, 2008 at 11:55 am
If the concern is for safety, work with the promoters and venue owners!
Misguided and over-reaching ordinances like this serve no purpose, but can and will damage the fabric of the Chicago music scene.
674. LaLa Lozano | May 12, 2008 at 11:55 am
As a fan of the Chicago Music and Arts Scene, please don’t pass this ordinance. I enjoy Chicago’s small venues.
675. MARK B. | May 12, 2008 at 11:56 am
PLEASE, NO TO THIS ORDINANCE
676. Matt ROAN | May 12, 2008 at 11:56 am
If this ordinance is passed, Chicago’s music/club/nightlife culture is finished. Stop the ordinance and allow Chicago to be the amazing city it is.
677. Maurice J Vaughn | May 12, 2008 at 11:56 am
I strongly oppose this ordinance. It puts an unnecessary new burden on the ‘small to mid-sized venue’ promoters. As a performer, I can see this new law hurting my co-workers and venue personnel with a negative cultural end-result. We should be encouraging and cultivating the live music/performance venues this city is known for. I strongly urge a ‘no’ vote on this for our cultural good. And thanks to my E-friends for sounding the alarm.
678. Aaron | May 12, 2008 at 11:57 am
This is ludicrous. Count me in the petition.
679. Tony R | May 12, 2008 at 11:57 am
I am against this ordinance.
680. garin | May 12, 2008 at 11:57 am
Please stop the ordinance!
681. Jesse Raub | May 12, 2008 at 11:58 am
This is the sort of nonsense that will throttle the life of modern culture in Chicago. The ordinance is designed to stifle art, and nothing more.
682. Ben Willis | May 12, 2008 at 11:59 am
As a professional musician who has lived and benefited from Chicago’s vibrant independent music scene the past nine years I am disgusted by the gall the mayor and our elected aldermen have shown by proposing this nonsensical ordinance. I would simply remind them of Chicago’s musical history. Buddy Guy, Muddy Waters, Louis Armstrong, Benny Goodman, Chicago, the AACM, and countless other jazz, blues, house, rock, and gospel acts would have never caught any local traction on their way to being legends in their fields with this legislative stupidity. I suggest the mayor and his comrades in the assembly tackle some real challenges to the city like police brutality, violence in our schools, the CTA, and some of the worst air quality in the nation in some parts of the south side. Leave art to the artists and don’t interfere on behalf of the “moneyed interests”.
683. manda | May 12, 2008 at 11:59 am
no! why take away the underground scene chicago is known for? when someone says “chicago culture,” this underground scene is what i think of. it is what everyone i know thinks of. the city of chicago is NOTHING without its culture. the IDEA to pass this law is COMPLETELY absurd!!!
684. Gillian Humiston | May 12, 2008 at 11:59 am
Please add my name to protest! I want my reps to vote NO on this!
685. ashley | May 12, 2008 at 11:59 am
this is so disturbing. i cant imagine growing up in a city without such a varied and wonderful underground music scene. please add my name to the list in opposition to this ordinance.
686. Anna Ables | May 12, 2008 at 11:59 am
As a fan of the Chicago Music and Arts Scene, please don’t pass this ordinance. I enjoy Chicago’s small venues. THIS IS A HORRIBLE IDEA!
687. Brendan McGowan | May 12, 2008 at 12:00 pm
Unacceptable. I have lived in Chicago for 23 years, born and raised, and I am never shocked when the residents are taxed and tourists get the benefits. This could stifle the precious tourism the city has focused on for more than half my lifetime, and thats what surprised me. This needs to be stopped.
688. Carmen Pope | May 12, 2008 at 12:00 pm
Stop this ordinance…
Chicago’s nightlife and small venues depend on promoters to find
clients….with them Chicago Culture would be ruined beyond repair…There are so many more important issues; such as safety and the enviroment ,that alderman and state representitives should be concentrationg their time on….this ordinace is just riduculous!!!
689. Ellen Miles | May 12, 2008 at 12:01 pm
I thoroughly enjoy the wide variety of music and theater in Chicago – why take it away. Why take away something that makes so many so happy. It just doesn’t make sense.
690. Nora Novak | May 12, 2008 at 12:01 pm
Horrible idea. Count me in on the petition as well!
691. Stephanie | May 12, 2008 at 12:01 pm
Are we free to enjoy ourselves anymore? I feel like Big Brother is watching us. First no smoking, now no music? What is this city coming to?
Pass the word! Our city is rich in culture and history don’t let that go down the tubes…
692. Patti Carver | May 12, 2008 at 12:03 pm
This proposed ordinance seems to be so “un-Chicago” …. or does it? Which Chicago do we want to represent ourselves as –the pro-artist, rich-in-culture Chicago …. or the corrupt, anything-for-a-buck Chicago? So we locals understand what this is all about, but, please, let’s not advertise our dark side to the whole world!
693. Andrew Cole | May 12, 2008 at 12:03 pm
I’ve lived in and around Chicago all of my life. Among the reasons that I’ve not relocated is Chicago’s vibrant music and theatre life. The variety, diversity, and accessibility of such interesting and important expressions of art are unique to Chicago.
Ladies and Gentlemen of the City Council, please look around downtown. Instead of Marshall Fields, Sears, Montgomery Wards, Goldblatt’s, First National Bank of Chicago, you can now see Macy’s, Bloomingdale’s, Citibank, Bank of America, and Chase. Where has our identity gone? Now, if all we have left of our artistic choices are big productions and “Broadway in Chicago”, then we have become, truly, a second city.
While I no longer live in The City, my better half and I commute often for sporting and cultural events. We enjoy theatre on Belmont Ave and Halstead Street as much as tne refurbished Oriental, Cadallic and La Salle Bank Theatres. We spend our money on parking, food, theathre tickets, and often stay for additionl nightlife, or come early for shopping. Without such reason to commute to Chicago, we could as easily spend our money in Aurora, Arlington Heights, Crystal Lake, Elgin or Naperville, all of which have entertainment venues and frankly are easier to navigate…AND less expensive!
I truly hope that you will come to the realization that promotion of the arts is good business.
Andrew Cole
725 Highland Grove Dr
Buffalo Grove, IL. 60089
694. Nick Trentacost | May 12, 2008 at 12:04 pm
This is unbelievable. The diy music scene in Chicago is what keeps me going to shows. Preventing this community from continuing is a huge hit to artistic expression. This proposed law sucks.
695. Sheila McDonald | May 12, 2008 at 12:04 pm
Please reconsider this ordinance. While I agree we must keep the patrons safe, this ordinance as it is written will eliminate many necessary events. Small not-for-profit organizations rely on benefits and other events that artists and venue owners kindly donate their time and space for. This ordinance cripples that opportunity to raise funds for organizations that promote literacy, assistance for those in need, and countless other good causes.
Please do not pass this ordinance as it is written.
696. Rachel Damon | May 12, 2008 at 12:04 pm
My entire livelihood, and that of almost all of my colleagues would be completely destroyed by this law.
I have built my creative life, (in dance, choreography, and dance performance production), in Chicago because of it’s rich opportunities. It is possible to be a working performance artist here.
That would no longer be the case if this law went into effect. Many dance productions have a budget of $2000- $5000.
If ALL or MOST of that budget were to be swallowed by this inane attempt at oligarchical control, the infrastructure of independent dance in Chicago will collapse.
Do us proud, Aldermen, and say NO to the slow constriction of our freedoms.
697. Peter Sebastian | May 12, 2008 at 12:04 pm
It appears that Chicago City Council is trying to prevent another E2 disaster. E2 was a horrible tragedy that was brought about by irresponsible managers and promoters. However, this legislation will put undue burden on small responsible promoters driving them and their talents away from the city; the legislation will also likely have the adverse affect of pushing irresponsible managers further underground, away from the public eye, putting their patrons at further danger.
Tearing down an entire segment of Chicago’s Arts community to root out a few bad apples is lazy on the part of the City Council. Lets keep Chicago the great arts city that it is and NOT pass this legislation.
698. Ingrid Oscarsson | May 12, 2008 at 12:04 pm
This ordinance would really limit the exposure to the public of indie and other musicians at the beginning of their careers. These musicians would have difficulty getting their art to an audience, so the people of Chicago would miss out on some the best music and culture this city has to offer. This would definitely be a loss to all.
699. Matt Reed | May 12, 2008 at 12:05 pm
As a musician and performer myself, I cannot believe that the City Council would even think of considering this ordinance. We pay the highest sales tax in the country, and have constant abuse and money mismanagement by our elected officials. Can’t they get their spending together? I’m sure they will argue that the ordinance is about “safety”, but that’s typical of politicians trying to extract more money to throw around. . Why punish the artistic community which is one of the main reasons this town is second to none. Eventually this ordinance will sink Chicago’s standing as a center of music, theater and art.
700. Elisabeth Blair | May 12, 2008 at 12:05 pm
Please join the Facebook group, Save Chicago Culture:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=14776278366
Please come to City Hall Wednesday at 10, 2nd floor. 121 N. LaSalle.
701. Rian Murphy | May 12, 2008 at 12:05 pm
Speaking for everyone here at the record label, I wholly oppose this ordinance. It is extortion, and is furthemore an attempt to bleed money from a stone that is much more capable of giving pleasure than it does money. And yet, artists continue to come to Chicago. Don’t stop them by essentially shutting down the clubs!
702. Tim Stephans | May 12, 2008 at 12:06 pm
I oppose this ordinance in its current form.
703. Audrey Pecott | May 12, 2008 at 12:06 pm
This is outrageous! Let them find other ways to finance bribery and corrupt politics . . .
Consider the lively culture, subculture, underground, etc. that will be squashed and render Chicago a moron on the stage of arts in this country should this ordinance pass. It’s another HUGE MIDDLE FINGER to the artists who make Chicago a place worth living and visiting.
704. drew brown | May 12, 2008 at 12:06 pm
this proposal is offensive and ridiculous.
705. Sandra Smith-Doghmi | May 12, 2008 at 12:06 pm
City officials should remember you are never so tall as when you reach down to help someone else up. Turn this project inside out.
706. Desiree' Stevens | May 12, 2008 at 12:06 pm
This ordinance is supposedly being passed in response to the club accidents that did not even happen in this city. Chicago has a proven track record of putting on shows and doing them well. As for the “homeowners” who live near our favorite clubs and complain about the noise: you should have thought about that before you moved in. As a fellow musician and music promoter it’s disgusting to think that for ridiculous reasons, this city’s musicians and touring bands alike, will not get the unforgettable response to their shows as they deserve. I can deal with, and I sort of agree with the no smoking in bars/clubs deal, but I cannot and will not deal with no music unless you have a permit bull.
707. Ben A. | May 12, 2008 at 12:08 pm
Signing the petition.
Chicago,
There are already not enough places to go to see unique independent music anymore. Creativity has been stifled enough. Please don’t enact laws that beat up the little guy for political points on safety. Otherwise, our city will be artistically poorer for it.
708. Megan Hincks | May 12, 2008 at 12:08 pm
BOO!!!!!
709. yulanda hill | May 12, 2008 at 12:08 pm
As a fan of the theater and music, i also have a child in the business this would be very bad. PLEASE NO ORDINANCE
710. Jenni Knight | May 12, 2008 at 12:08 pm
I strongly oppose this ordinance!!! Too many people depend on this industry as their main source of income.
711. Anthony aka Ol School | May 12, 2008 at 12:09 pm
Why, Why, Why! This is just crazy! The city of chicago is just wrong on this one, whats next! Is the city of chicago going too start charging us to walk on the sidewalks!
712. James T | May 12, 2008 at 12:09 pm
I oppose this ordinance.
713. Richard | May 12, 2008 at 12:09 pm
This is part of a neo-fascist movement in politics around the country, too bad it’s popped up as a festering boil in our backyard where, as artists, we work and play.
Forget that it’s hard enough to get people to come to an original show of any kind, much less eek out a buck or two. This ordinance is nonsense and, somewhere, has to violate the law because it is discriminatory in nature. After all, shouldn’t the larger venues also be similarly, and exponentially, taxed by King Daley? We have a corrupt local government that doesn’t have a passion for the arts but, rather, a passion for dollars. This is simply a way of driving smaller shows and productions out of the City in order to thin the competition and turn Chicago into a homogenous void of culture as dictated by big business.
And think of the implications outside of what it is currently being applied to: What if you have a party at your own home that has a band? Would that not qualify or, at least, be loosely interpreted as something that would be subject to this ordinance? How about a wedding? The possibilities are endless here.
If this passes we’ll see a lot more than the closing of small music venues and the evaporation of local shows; we’ll see the city pervert this ordinance for further financial gain which will, in turn, drive a lot of diverse businesses away from the city. As if sky high property taxes and the upcoming sales tax increase weren’t enough!
I’m only getting started and I’ll be blogging about this myself on my band’s site http://www.legendarliars.com
I’ll make sure to spread the word and direct people here and anywhere else they can raise their voices in protest.
714. Laura Sturm | May 12, 2008 at 12:10 pm
not only will this punish independent musicians and people who work at and enjoy these venues, but you will take away one of the greatest things about this city – the opportunity to see live music inexpensively in small venues. new york city would never do something this stupid. chew on that, you aldermen who are always complaining that chicago doesn’t have the good rep that NYC does. and help explain to daley why there’ll be less to do for tourists if he manages to land his beloved olympics. is he aware of this? i hope someone is harassing him to do something about it. seems whatever daley wants …
715. Mark Florence | May 12, 2008 at 12:10 pm
This ordinance will only hurt the artists that the city should be supporting instead. There are enough obstacles standing in front of local artists as it is and adding something like this will only hurt the local music community more.
716. Erik Kaiko | May 12, 2008 at 12:10 pm
i’m glad this news is spreading…even if it passes wednesday, i can’t imagine it sticking around for long. but yeah, let’s be preventative
717. Ehsan Ghoreishi | May 12, 2008 at 12:11 pm
Once again, Chicago city council members have proven how far their views stand from those of Chicagoans, and of Chicago’s culture; they are about to prove to Chicagoans how disconnected they are from real problems of this city and instead get involved with filthy money making making machine that aims at larger profits and nothing else. SHAME ON YOU CITY COUNCIL
718. Brian K | May 12, 2008 at 12:12 pm
Again, I must comment. This ordinance will oulaw any “All-ages” events since the members of the bands will be under the age of 21, and thus unable to obtain a license, and of course they will be “promoting” their own show.” Schulter speaks of a time when the drinking age was below 21 in Illinois in his interview with De Rogatis. When was that? Not for at least 25 years, if ever. Half-truths and white lies from the government to justify this outrageous law. Nothing new in that respect, I suppose.
719. Max Stewart | May 12, 2008 at 12:12 pm
This would be a serious stain on Chicago’s great cultural scene if it passed. We can’t let non-performers think that this would not affect them greatly.
720. Ernesto Perez | May 12, 2008 at 12:12 pm
I disagree with the ordinance. I understand the reason for wanting something like this, but this isn’t the answer. There has to be a better way of preventing incidents like the E2 tragedy…such as doing randon checks on clubs to make sure their security is good enough and that there is enough safety for patrons. Billing someone to put together an event doesn’t prevent things like the E2 situation from happening again. it just helps pay for it afterwards.
721. nick arciero | May 12, 2008 at 12:13 pm
this is insane. another way for the city to police and ruin culture and nightlife in chicago.. and we the tax payers are going to get hit up again in taxes when the city realizes that they need to make up for the lost revenue of these venues that will shut down.
722. Mark Crowley | May 12, 2008 at 12:13 pm
As a musician, I think that this law will completely change the way bookers, bands, and clubs have to do business, thus quashing much of Chicago’s great culture/music.
Also, I must say I am appalled that there are only 705 comments on this blog!? COME ON PEOPLE…THIS MUST BE HEARD BY THE CITY RESIDENTS! I just found out about this today, and most people I know thought this had been defeated! Please pass this on to others you know!?
Mark
http://www.landoflincolnrocks.com
723. Actor | May 12, 2008 at 12:13 pm
This is ridiculous. Please don’t let this nonsense become a reality…
724. M. Schaeffer | May 12, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Please do not continue with this ill-advised mandate.
725. Jarod Pranno | May 12, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Any time you leave your home, you are at risk of something, but that’s no reason to stop living your life. As someone in a creative field, it is hard enough to get creative people to move here; the damage to Chicago culture that this ordinance would cause can only make it even harder.
This is an absurd ordinance from an absurd city government.
726. Craig Bechtel | May 12, 2008 at 12:14 pm
This ordinance is without question the WRONG THING TO DO, and is close to coming to fruition without a sufficient level of public input. Do not let big business drive the little guy out of business again! A Chicago without the vibrant live music scene it has now would be a shell of itself. Enforce the existing laws, but don’t punish the little guy because of one aberrant catastrophe! If I had a blog, I would blog about this at http://www.myspace.com/ophidiodeity.com — I just might have to start now!
727. Vanessa | May 12, 2008 at 12:17 pm
It’s a shame that the nightlife in Chicago has already been down hill. There are not that many venues as it is, but to propose this ordinance is outrageous. I hope everyone will do what they can to keep the real nightlife alive.
728. Catherine Gavriel | May 12, 2008 at 12:18 pm
Please don’t pass this ordinance. If it passes, Chicago’s cultural scene will no longer be able to compete with other cities’. City Council should act to promote Chicago’s culture, not deflate it.
Add my name to the list please.
Catherine Gavriel
729. Rich Frye | May 12, 2008 at 12:18 pm
As an amature musician in Chicago I oppose this ordinance.
730. Dana | May 12, 2008 at 12:18 pm
The meeting for this ridiculous crap.
It’s at 121 N. LaSalle, 2nd floor, this Wed May 14 at 10 AM.
731. Vini Demon | May 12, 2008 at 12:18 pm
NO,NO,NO,NO,NO,NO,NO,NO,NO,NO,NO,NO,NO!!!
This ordinance is wrong on every level imaginable, and is just one more bad idea, in a long line bad ideas; some that, unfortunately, have already come into fruition.
Wake up Chicago: you’re well on your way to destroying all that has made you great.
732. matt bender | May 12, 2008 at 12:19 pm
As the city hopes to showcase itself as world class by hosting the Olympics, a stifling ordnance like this sends the message that freedom of expression and creativity are only supported if you have the cash.
733. Taylor Klasinski | May 12, 2008 at 12:19 pm
This is outrageous!
734. Pat Prange | May 12, 2008 at 12:20 pm
This is absolutely disastrous. I support all my friends in the Arts and hope the City Council will too.
735. Hanna LoPatin | May 12, 2008 at 12:20 pm
As both a performer and lover of Chicago’s performance scene, I adamantly oppose this ordinance.
736. Caroline | May 12, 2008 at 12:20 pm
How much more can the city do to try and ruin our tourism? This is unbelievable and outrageous. The economy is bad enough without the city trying to take food out of the mouths of the people in the service and entertainment industry.
737. Mike McKeown | May 12, 2008 at 12:20 pm
Chicago is know throughout the world as one of the major hubs of improv and sketch comedy. This is due in large part to small venues giving performers the chance to hone their skills and entertain audineces on a nightly basis. If you take away the independent spirit of entrepreneurship it will hurt the reputation Chicago has built up over the years.
738. Allison Bosma | May 12, 2008 at 12:21 pm
This is ridiculous. As a city that prides itself on being culturally and creatively diverse, we should take a long hard look at what this ordinance stiffles: CULTURE AND CREATIVITY!! K
739. Heather Lindahl | May 12, 2008 at 12:22 pm
Why do so many talented people live and make work in Chicago? Why didn’t they move to New York or LA? Because unlike those other cities, Chicago is a place where actors, dancers, musicians, performance artists etc are not forced to find a niche to fit into, here, they can create their own niche. They can do it one show at a time and they can EXPERIMENT.
Please resist the temptation to apply the small business template to the business of creating cultural happenings. The best theater company in the city, possibly the country, has been selling tickets for “$10 if you’ve got it Free if your broke” for over a decade now- because they can. There are more than enough venues to support this MO. If Chicago wants to be a world class city, this promoter’s ordinance is NOT the way to go about it. The deadening sameness of the huge factory-churned-out touring shows (that are coddled by this ordinance) in theaters all across the U.S. (like T.V. sit-coms and shopping malls across the U.S.) serve only to wipe out regional identities while seeking profits. People’s lives are not enriched by this type of event. Nor are they enriched by the traffic jams, gang violence and bad weather. It is the vibrant cultural happenings in little nooks and crannies all around the city that make being a Chicagoan worth it. The international reputation Chicago has gained for hosting an enormous community of cutting edge and masterful performers, musicians and artists is incredibly hard won, and was fostered by an environment conducive to independent small scale productions. Hobbling the efforts of emerging artists by creating an environment hostile to this type of event-making would not only be to the detriment of the heart and soul of the city; it would also knock us right off of the cosmopolitan map and into the mediocrity bin. This promoter’s ordinance is bad for Chicago. If you love Chicago please kill the ordinance.
740. Allan Cardenas | May 12, 2008 at 12:22 pm
I am strongly opposed to this ordinance!
741. Tina Campbell | May 12, 2008 at 12:22 pm
I am concerned after raeding the outline of this ordiance, and I hope our aldermen hear our collective concerns. Clearly this is not the solution, and while safety is vital, hurting these smaller venues will not help anyone. I would hate to see our thriving music scene squashed here in the city, it is oine of the aspects that makes me proud to live here.
742. Brian Grabiner | May 12, 2008 at 12:22 pm
This is terrible for culture in Chicago and great for the insurance companies. Don’t these guys already get enough preferential treatment? Tis a shame!
Brian Grabiner
Mess Marketing
743. Justin Flieth | May 12, 2008 at 12:22 pm
this is ridiculous…especially at this point in time….Chicago’s music scene is thriving and its all because of the important role everyone in the community plays in it…do you really want to put a stop to something like that….seriously
744. Ari Seder | May 12, 2008 at 12:22 pm
I am a Chicago resident and strongly opposed to this ordinance.
745. Scott McGaughey | May 12, 2008 at 12:23 pm
Is this a joke?
Let’s not regress
746. MARC | May 12, 2008 at 12:23 pm
This is again another way to restrict us from doing something we love. STOP THE ORDINANCE
747. Angela | May 12, 2008 at 12:23 pm
This is preposterous! It is agreeable that if the original laws were enforced at E2, none of this would be needed. Negligence at an isolated incident does not constitute placing every other law abiding establishment out of business. Those that refuse to follow the law such as E2 will only keep doing what they are doing (not following already established laws) while those who are law abiding lose out. This only hurts the honest people. Please keep this in mind.
748. Lidnsay | May 12, 2008 at 12:23 pm
This will push events out of the city, or into the “underground.” Either way we, the people who live in the city suffer. Let the little guy be.
749. Liz Knight | May 12, 2008 at 12:24 pm
With a 10% sales tax and now this? Chicago is looking less and less appealing to continue to live in…
750. Christopher J. Caluya | May 12, 2008 at 12:24 pm
this ordinance will ruin the chicago underground music and theater scene. i thought chicago was proud of their artistic cultural acheivements but apparently, they don’t care enough about the vast majority of chicagoans that participate and create music and theater.
Christopher J. Caluya
751. Lauren Kitchen | May 12, 2008 at 12:25 pm
Chicago should be supporting its arts scene, not hurting it.
752. Gabriel Patti | May 12, 2008 at 12:25 pm
It’s obvious this law is for large venue promoters to gain another monopoly on Chicago’s art/music scene. Once again our city officials are betraying artists to chase a buck….
753. Allison | May 12, 2008 at 12:25 pm
This is ridiculous. As a city that prides itself on being culturally and creatively diverse, we need to take a long hard look at what this ordinance stiffles: CULTURE AND CREATIVITY!! Keep this up and you’ll lose the essence of music, theater, comedy, and art in generl in the city of Chicago. BIG THINGS START SMALL…DO NOT PASS THIS THING!!
754. Erik | May 12, 2008 at 12:26 pm
I strongly oppose this ordinance.
755. Amanda Cox | May 12, 2008 at 12:26 pm
If this ban is placed on promotions in Chicago, it will stifle the musical, artistic, and social components that make Chicago the wonderful place that it is. As a lover of the Chicago music scene, and friend to those directly involved, I would be deeply saddened and disappointed if this ordinance were to pass.
756. Elizabeth Morgan | May 12, 2008 at 12:26 pm
This would the theatre community terribly. Please do not pass this ordinance. The arts community is politically active. We vote!!!!!
757. Ben Coleman | May 12, 2008 at 12:26 pm
I am a great fan of the city and its music scene, both as a visitor and as a performer who has found Chicago to be vibrant and original.
Please don’t waste the legacy of the thousands of talented performers who made this town what it is, and continue to drive the city’s culture to new, exciting places.
758. Ross Felten | May 12, 2008 at 12:27 pm
Chicago’s local music thrives on the variety o of small venues to play at.
DON’T TAKE THAT AWAY FROM US!!!
759. E.Williams | May 12, 2008 at 12:27 pm
Why should we help the city support the 2016 Olympics when an ordinance like this could destroy the opportunity for many musicians and actors living in our city to earn a living?
760. Jonathan Gorske | May 12, 2008 at 12:27 pm
This is a typical City of Chicago response to a problem. The E2 Nightclub incident was a tragedy, but the answer does not lie in this ordinance. If the City of Chicago had enforced the many existing laws that the E2 nightlcub had broken, the tragedy would never have occurred.
This broad and general ordinance will punish the entire arts community for an isolated incident, and effectively destroy the creative culture that makes this city great.
Think twice, Chicago Aldermen, because I guarantee that the many people who care about this issue will be voting based on it.
761. jennifer reiter | May 12, 2008 at 12:27 pm
I have emailed my alderman as has my partner asking him to vote NO to this nonsense. As a DIY promoter of all things indie POP!, this would stop me in my tracks. This city cannot afford to enact this, no matter what music scene(s) you are a part of. I wish I could leave the office and support you all on Wednesday, but I will be there in spirit.
762. Dennis aka Paws | May 12, 2008 at 12:27 pm
This is WRONG!!! I promote several shows a year to benifit MS, Cancer, Vets, Autism, etc, etc…
GOVERMENT GET OUT OF OUR LIVES!!!!
763. Susan Lee | May 12, 2008 at 12:27 pm
Find another way to prevent future E2 disasters. This isn’t the solution.
This proposal destroys the Chicago art scene.
764. Tim B. | May 12, 2008 at 12:27 pm
Please, Chicago City Council, do not pass this ordinance. The very identifying features that make Chicago what it is, that set it apart from other cities in our country, would be crushed by the measures set forth. Please take the time to understand the long, long list of negative cultural ramifications this would incur. Chicago would no longer be Chicago, a place where young and old, experienced and inexperienced, can gain and practice vital artistic endeavours. This is a step in the worst possible direction for a city with such a vibrant arts scene. Even the venues exempt from this ordinance would ultimately suffer greatly.
765. Terrence Allen | May 12, 2008 at 12:28 pm
This new legislation would essentially put half of the entertainment industry in Chicago out of business. If the capacity laws had been adhered to before the E2 incident, tragedy would have been averted.
766. Fausto Lopez | May 12, 2008 at 12:28 pm
This bill is unnecessary and will make it impossible to program accessible cultural events in the city. The fees associated with this bill will drive ticket prices for admission up. In the present state of the economy this will leave fans and patrons disenfranchised.
Please vote against this bill!
767. Jeff Deff | May 12, 2008 at 12:28 pm
Why is it that when Chicago becomes known for something, the city tries to squash it with ridiculous ordinances? For example, Chicago generates international interest for it’s food scene (not taste of chicago) and the city decides to outlaw foie gras? The city will be there to try and trip up any momentum that is built by local artists, musicians, chefs or other creative types. The cultural landscape the city government wants is Navy Pier, Wicked and Lollapalooza drawing in lots of Wisconsin and Michigan tourist types. Other cities encourage small business and cultural endeavors that serve the people. This city should be working hard to create new opportunities for creative people to thrive and to nurture galleries and other venues through grants and incentive programs.
768. David Foster | May 12, 2008 at 12:29 pm
Don’t make it a crime to play music, simple as that.
769. Josh Zagoren | May 12, 2008 at 12:29 pm
This would be a shameful mistake.
770. Greg | May 12, 2008 at 12:29 pm
This is ridiculous and should not pass!!!
771. Carol Ray | May 12, 2008 at 12:29 pm
This is very ill advised on the part of the City Council. While looking for ways to increase city revenue they will instead be destroying the roots of Chicago’s vibrant music scene. Every large act that comes out of Chicago starts at the small club level…there are dozens of today’s rock, jazz and blues stars that started in our small venues. I would suggest that the City Council look deeper into existing city budget problems such as ghost payrolls and payoffs for funds. As every Chicagoan knows, there’s plenty more where that came from. Just keepin’ it real, City Council. You should do the same.
772. Ruby Harris | May 12, 2008 at 12:29 pm
A plot of the government to steal money and tax the poor innocents (like parking and traffic tickets) and destroy music and art.
773. joe m | May 12, 2008 at 12:29 pm
Crap
774. mark reyes | May 12, 2008 at 12:30 pm
This would be a tragedy for the city of Chicago. We have long been known as a breeding ground for amazing creative talent. If this becomes a law, we will alienate a large portion of our creative talent pool, and the culture of the city will suffer.
775. Peter Strickland | May 12, 2008 at 12:30 pm
This is absurd stop trying to destroy the great culture of Chicago
776. Ben Hartschuh | May 12, 2008 at 12:30 pm
This simply cannot happen.
777. Sam McMorris | May 12, 2008 at 12:30 pm
What good could possibly come out of this?
778. Eric Reyes | May 12, 2008 at 12:32 pm
This is pointless. What will this fix. Nothing. Lets hope the city counciil isnt extremely ignorant.
779. Carol LeBras | May 12, 2008 at 12:32 pm
Please do NOT PASS this ordinance! Small venues make a big difference in the cultural life of this city! Don’t let this happen to Chicago! Support music don’t discourage it.
780. Nick Zaglaras | May 12, 2008 at 12:32 pm
This is an outrage! There is no way we can let this ordinance come into action!
781. Kirk Finley | May 12, 2008 at 12:33 pm
The proposed ordinance is unreal – and pathetic. I’d like to know what triggered this proposal, as I am strongly opposed.
782. marsha thom | May 12, 2008 at 12:33 pm
add my name to this petition – Save Chicago Culture!
783. Adam | May 12, 2008 at 12:33 pm
This Makes no sense what so ever? Why would you suffocate the music and culture scene of this city with such an outlandish law?
784. Graham Bartholomae | May 12, 2008 at 12:34 pm
this bill shall not pass.
785. Karl Hafner | May 12, 2008 at 12:34 pm
This is absolutely the dumbest thing I have ever seen!!! Save Music!!!
786. bob wronkiewicz | May 12, 2008 at 12:35 pm
I know we have to safeguard the public, but can’t we try to encourage small establishments just starting out. Performers need somewhere to play, and it is getting increasingly hard to get people out from behing their computers.
Please try to see that this law will become another setback for performers, and the vibrancy of city.
Thanks
787. Thymme Jones | May 12, 2008 at 12:35 pm
Yep, this ordinance would pretty much effectively destroy the vibrant Chicago music scene (which certainly falls squarely within the top three in the country). Please, let us not allow this to happen.
788. John Besenhofer | May 12, 2008 at 12:35 pm
I can’t believe that the elected council of the City of Chicago would waste their time and the citzens’ ( the voters) of Chicago on an ordinance that would stiffel the creativity and the freedom of its citizens. Take great caution, the VOTERS OF CHICAGO are taking note and our memories are long !
789. Kate Mathews | May 12, 2008 at 12:35 pm
This will ruin the music and nightlife scene in Chicago as we know it. I protest!
790. Bryant Arvesen | May 12, 2008 at 12:36 pm
This is recidulous. If this passes, shows in the city will be impossible to have.
791. Lucid Ground | May 12, 2008 at 12:36 pm
We physically want to hurt whoever thought of this!!!!
792. Peter | May 12, 2008 at 12:36 pm
You cannot suppress art
793. Noel Chambers | May 12, 2008 at 12:36 pm
Tax, tax, tax….everything from cab fare to bottled water to restaurant sales tax has been jacked up in the last year. Property taxes continue to skyrocket. Meanwhile our 50 alderman make well over 100k a year for what is essentially a part time job. Connected contractors and investment firms get millions in sweetheart deals we seldom hear about. The Mayor goes into a rage when his goofy Children’s Museum isn’t rubberstamped for construction on OUR public land. And now the city wants to cripple via taxation the independant arts scene, one of the most wondeful aspects of life in Chicago.
This is an important thing to for which to take a stand. What a shame it would if our storefront theatres and small music venues are stamped out in a mad rush for more revenue to waste on bloat and graft.
794. Randy Brown | May 12, 2008 at 12:36 pm
this is horrible. if you take away our outlets
to express ourselves in a positive and creative way
it will only make things worse. people will not have
a positive response. it just seems like a way to cause
more problems. or for the city to make money.
795. Joel Estrada | May 12, 2008 at 12:36 pm
dont strip Chicago of this. i beg you.
796. Brendan Kelly | May 12, 2008 at 12:36 pm
This is absolutely insane. An ordinance like this would slaughter Chicago’s culture.
797. Daniel Forden | May 12, 2008 at 12:37 pm
I oppose this ordinance. This is an example of bad governance and will accomplish very little that was intended while having many unintended consequences.
798. Chris Downs | May 12, 2008 at 12:37 pm
Please dont let this happen!
799. Ben | May 12, 2008 at 12:37 pm
I’m in Chicago because of the accessibility of these types of small performances. There would be no reason for me to stay if this passes.
800. VVirginia Ardolino | May 12, 2008 at 12:37 pm
As a vistor to Chicago frequently from the suburbs to see many different show venues I find this outrageous. Many actors who now are in the bug shows started in smaller shows in these venues you are wanting to do away with. Let’s STOP this NOW!
801. Graham Bartholomae | May 12, 2008 at 12:38 pm
is this considered my signature?
802. Nathalie Nguyen | May 12, 2008 at 12:38 pm
This is utterly ridiculous and this ordinance should not be passed.
803. Joe Moreno | May 12, 2008 at 12:38 pm
The greatest city in the states for music
804. Phil Denigris | May 12, 2008 at 12:39 pm
This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard in my life. I’m 1,000% percent against ordinance. Being a musician myself, it’s pretty sickening to even hear something like this even being considered. Are we turning into fascists?
805. Dan Platt | May 12, 2008 at 12:39 pm
Thumbs down on this proposal!
806. nicole montgomery | May 12, 2008 at 12:40 pm
This is a VERY bad idea! Do not pass this ordinance.
807. Charlotte Coleman | May 12, 2008 at 12:40 pm
As an independent promoter working to create the biggest after parties for Lollapalooza, this will completely shatter all the hard work that people have put into place to create an overall enjoyable music experience in Chicago. Please stand up against this bill.
808. Adam K | May 12, 2008 at 12:41 pm
Just dont do that. That would be taking away my life every weekend. And that is why I live in Chicago. And murder is illegal.
809. Ilana | May 12, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Shame on you City Hall. This ordinance must not pass.
810. Elizabeth McQuern | May 12, 2008 at 12:42 pm
I produce a non-music show every week at the Beat Kitchen and my co-producer and I would have to scramble madly to accommodate the requirements of this proposal, and even then might not be able to swing it.
THUMBS DOWN.
And why has there been no public discourse on this proposed ordinance?
811. Fran Allen-Leake | May 12, 2008 at 12:42 pm
The proposed Promoter’s Ordinance is the most ridiculous and contrived piece of legislation the city of Chicago has conceived to date. This Ordinance, if passed, will do only two things: 1. Stymie the creative diversity that makes up the beautiful fabric of Chicago’s arts community; 2. Place independent musicians, artists, promoters, venues and the people they serve at financial and creative risk. We have already seen how this kind of “Gestapo” legislation has impacted our schools and community centers, that now have precious little arts education and substinative programming. The E2 nightclub disaster needed no more NEW laws; just enforcement of the current laws. This proposal is totally ill-conceived, and will do nothing more than totally alienate artists and local business from the peoples they strive to serve.
Fran Allen-Leake
Chief Producer & Artist Representative
LJet Productions
Chicago, Illinois
812. Brittany Gober | May 12, 2008 at 12:43 pm
Chicago is one of the few cities left that has actually retained a cultural identity. Please do not take that away. Chicago is what it is for it’s art, music, and it’s people’s creative expressions. This is something that must be maintained and protected.
813. Brigid Finucane | May 12, 2008 at 12:44 pm
This ordinance will effectively stifle and perhaps snuff out the
vitality of the arts community by making it too expensive or unwieldy a process to perform. It is an splashy response to a disaster that happened years ago, and does not provide a responsible solution, only a completely overblown ordinance which inhibits creative growth, penalizes small venues with limited resources and punishes non-corporate artists and their potential audiences.
814. Jennifer Barnes | May 12, 2008 at 12:44 pm
Please, let’s keep Chicago’s nightlife and culture as vibrant and diverse as it is now…it’s a huge selling point for locals and visitors alike. This ordinance would weed out 99% of what is interesting…
815. Ceci Ayala-Bland | May 12, 2008 at 12:45 pm
The city would be at a great loss without our Theather and Music. This can not happen.
Ceci Ayala=Bland
816. MBurns | May 12, 2008 at 12:45 pm
Wow- 700 comments and counting!
Please be sure to contact your alderman in addition to forwarding this to concerned friends.
817. Jason Olson | May 12, 2008 at 12:45 pm
Stop this before it starts
818. Julia Rochholz | May 12, 2008 at 12:45 pm
So many people rely on Chicago’s diverse artistic outlets for entertainment and survival! This can not happen!
819. kellyq | May 12, 2008 at 12:46 pm
This city is nothing without it’s culture. This ordinance restricts what so many have worked for and promoted- diversity, artistry, and creativity.
820. Tamara Matthews | May 12, 2008 at 12:46 pm
Is this ordinance really necessary? Behind the comfort of my computer screen, I heartily oppose!
821. jk | May 12, 2008 at 12:46 pm
absolutely dispicable.
do not let this pass!
822. Coreena | May 12, 2008 at 12:47 pm
Chicago bands have it hard enough as it is to be heard…let’s not make it even harder by letting this thing happen.
823. carl proctor | May 12, 2008 at 12:47 pm
HOW CAN YOU CLEAR THE CHARGES ON THE PROMOTER AND CLUB OWNERS OF E2, THEN MAKE US ALL PAY?????
824. steve adler | May 12, 2008 at 12:48 pm
just another cheap shot at the little man for the city to drain us of as much money a they can.It will most likely back fire on them and they’ll make less
825. Steven I. Wolf | May 12, 2008 at 12:48 pm
Who is the city trying to protect? Where would those collected fees go and how would those monies be used to benefit the citzens of our city?
Since the smoking ban ordinance was passed, it is already getting increasingly harder to bring people out to local venues to support our entertainment and creative arts communities.
Please don’t let them pass a law that will hurt the hard working efforts of local promoters who already don’t earn enough for their hard work that benefits everone!
826. The Event Promoters’ Ordinance | Chicago Metblogs | May 12, 2008 at 12:48 pm
[...] weblog Save Chicago Culture is collecting signatures in opposition to the ordinance. On their site you can find a .pdf of the [...]
827. nick colionne | May 12, 2008 at 12:49 pm
I think this is crazy. Many of us musicians depend on these small venues to survive and support ourselves and our families. I think the idea is Ludicrous
828. Kurt Iselt | May 12, 2008 at 12:50 pm
I am against the proposal – with as much venom and anger as humanly possible. This is a terrible way for the city to try raising revenue.
829. Michael Narvaez | May 12, 2008 at 12:51 pm
The Day the Music Died could be May 14th
I know this is my second rant, but I had more to say.
As a playing musician and sound engineer in this city for almost thirty years I’ve seen a lot of great talent struggle in this town, but always had opportunities by starting out in smaller venues and having a chance to work their way up and build followings. I’ve had the opportunity to do sound for the Smashing Pumpkins when they were doing smaller clubs, and saw Styx playing at a high school before their first album. Will opportunities like this exist for artist in Chicago if this ordinance passes?
My partners and I about two years ago put together this Podcast show called Chicago Acoustic Underground http://www.chicagoacoustic,net in hopes of giving a chance for new acts to have another platform to be heard, and to give them a quality recording and putting together showcases featuring some of the amazing talent this city has to offer.
The response has been over whelming! We have 150,000 listeners in over thirty countries and growing stronger each and every day. We now also have touring musicians now wanting to be on the show that do nothing but praise this great city and its cultural diversifies which now is threaten to be stomped out by government bureaucracy!
This city of big shoulders could get the cold shoulder if these government bureaucrats try to stifle a chance for up and coming artists, and what kind of town will Chicago become? Can anyone on the City Council please explain how this ordinance will not change Chicago’s cultural community? Just what kind of Chicago do they perceive?
Michael Narvaez
Chicago Acoustic Underground
http://www.chicagoacoustic.net
830. Ron Goldberg | May 12, 2008 at 12:51 pm
This is a reactive decision which handcuffs many responsible and fantastic venues. Chicago policy makers need to understand the fantastic music scene that exists in this city and not kill it as a repercussion to one bad night at one isolated club. It makes no sense to punish some very responsible clubs that have added so much to the landscape of Chicago’s amazing music scene. This is bad policymaking at its finest.
831. Eric Reidelberger | May 12, 2008 at 12:51 pm
This ordinance is so ridiculous that the mind boggles.
Does the city really need money t5hat bad that it’s willing to suck all the culture right out of it?
Isn’t my barrage of parking tickets enough to sustain the greed?
832. Shannon DeLuca | May 12, 2008 at 12:51 pm
Ridiculous.
833. andy slater | May 12, 2008 at 12:52 pm
this ordinance will set back any goals to make Chicago culturally important. it will make it harder for independent music/art/theater to survive.
if the expenses inflate for promoters, that will effect the artists’ income amd the show goers confidence. its hard enough to fill a room as it is, and adding more costs to the production of an event will make it even harder.
834. Brian Boatner | May 12, 2008 at 12:52 pm
Come on! You know this isn’t right! You know this isn’t fair!
835. Doony Fite | May 12, 2008 at 12:52 pm
Very disturbing and unfair. Underground music is not a gateway drug.
836. Mark Roberts | May 12, 2008 at 12:52 pm
This law will hurt Chicago’s hospitality and tourism business. Please vote against this proposal!
837. Samantha Ross | May 12, 2008 at 12:52 pm
One of my favorite things about Chicago is the scope of live entertainment by so many talented local and touring artists in such an amazing variety of venues from giant seated theatres to warm tiny clubs. I have many friends who come from all across the country and the world to see performances from anywhere from the Hideout to the Auditorium Theatre. Doing anything to stifle the creativity on display here would be a gross injustice. Live entertainment should not be limited to the large rich corporations. A move such as this would drive talent and tourism away from Chicago.
838. Dan Doyle | May 12, 2008 at 12:53 pm
Way to go Daley, what, are you out of original ideas on how to make more money for your pals? Fingerprints? Get serious!!
Do not pass this ordinance.
839. Stephen Steim | May 12, 2008 at 12:54 pm
This is basically a “get tough” response to E2. While it might get some good press for an aspiring alderman, it is an attack on art and culture in Chicago. The City Council should avoid this ridiculous knee-jerk reaction. If Chicago is really a global city, it can find a way to keep its citizens safe without seriously damaging its cultural community.
840. Vincent Proce | May 12, 2008 at 12:54 pm
Chicago’s culture is one of the reasons I still live here. No Ordinance Please!
841. DJ Sokola | May 12, 2008 at 12:55 pm
STOP THIS BILL!
842. Paul Cawthon | May 12, 2008 at 12:55 pm
Save the music scene. The City is getting out of hand
843. Jennifer Hoover | May 12, 2008 at 12:55 pm
Unneccessary and ill-advised.
Please don’t let this happen!
“Above all, we are coming to understand that the arts incarnate the creativity of a free people. When the creative impulse cannot flourish, when it cannot freely select its methods and objects, when it is deprived of spontaneity, then society severs” – JFK
844. Lisa Aylesworth | May 12, 2008 at 12:55 pm
Chicago’s small grassroots venues for music, art and theater are what makes this city vibrant and livable. I can’t imagine living here and not being able to enjoy hearing a small band play at a local bar, or walking into a gallery where art and music are shared experiences. Some of my most memorable theater experiences have been in tiny places where I paid $15 for a ticket. DO NOT TAKE THIS AWAY FROM OUR CITY.
845. Krystal | May 12, 2008 at 12:56 pm
How can this happen? I go to soooo many concerts, I couldnt even imagine life without them. This ordinance is not necessary, and should be out down immediately. I am TOTALLY against it. Fight this, this cannot happen!
846. Leigh kelsey | May 12, 2008 at 12:56 pm
I book shows at a small music venue. This proposed ordinance is totally ludicrous. Part of why Chicago has such an amazing, vibrant varied music community is because we have so many small venues scattered across the entire city. This ordinance will hurt all of them. Many “event promoters” are young and determined to promote the hell out of their shows. Please don’t hurt the little guys.
847. Stacey Marquardt | May 12, 2008 at 12:57 pm
OPPOSE!!
Please listen to the voice of your community.
This is a case of throwing the baby out with the bathwater. We all want safe events in licensed venues, but this is a ridiculously vague law that punishes upstanding venues, promoters and musicians for the sins of a few.
848. Mario Di Sandro | May 12, 2008 at 12:57 pm
as a musician, this is appalling and unfair to the countless other of musicians in this great city that count on smaller local shows to get even the slightest attention brought to their music/art. this would cripple the amazing musical community that everyone knows and loves about chicago. please know that this will not be good for the city or it’s residents. this will not stand.
849. Todd Killings | May 12, 2008 at 12:57 pm
Please reconsider this absolutely unnecessary “Law” that would only hurt Chicago culture more than anything else, and would even detract from tourism centered around live music. Underground music is an important part of our great city and limiting the ability to see live music will only result in more violent crime and vandalism, which no one needs. And if people can’t go see live music in an intimate setting in Chicago, then there’s NO WAY we’ll ever get the Olympics here. It’s just that simple.
850. john cooper | May 12, 2008 at 12:57 pm
In a town that is supose to be “visitor friendly” and promoting activities for enjoyment, pleasure and a desire for tourists to return and continue to “spend” money in Chicago and with local merchants this makes no sense. It could lead to a very sterile city with little spontanous activities. We should be seeking to have as much culturre diversity as possible not limit venues. Part of the charm of summer months in Chicago is variety of activities and small entertainment pockets that visitors and residents can enjoy with out big overhead ticket prices. Do not pass this ordiance.
851. Dan Geiger | May 12, 2008 at 12:57 pm
This ordinance would in no way prevent another tragedy such as the E2 nightclub. Instead, it places an undue burden on independent artists and small venues with a proven track record of success such as Park West, The Vic, The Metro etc… As a global city, Chicago should be welcoming artists from around the world rather than creating more hoops for them to jump through. This type of ordinance will only backfire as more artists choose to skip Chicago rather than deal with bureaucracy. In the end, this is a loss for the artists themselves and the citizens of Chicago.
I have recently attended two smaller concerts that would have been jeopardized by this type of ordinance. If the local music scene suffers as a result of this, I would definitely not rule out moving out of Chicago to a city more welcoming to the arts.
852. Matt D'Agostino | May 12, 2008 at 12:57 pm
As a Chicago Public School teacher I feel this law would greatly diminish the already faultering creative arts programming offered in this city. Often times, it is only at these small theaters where I am able to afford to take my students to see a production. They deserve the right to see Shakespeare, Mammet, Isben, Wolfe, and Stoppard. In a world that is already getting more impersonal every day, it is the amazing theater system that offers our citizens a release from their lives, and the opportunity to grow as members of this human society. Please, let our theater and music venues continue to do their job. They deserve the right to help shape this world with their art.
853. Kristen Lehner | May 12, 2008 at 12:58 pm
No, please.
Kristen Lehner
854. Laura Wilkinson | May 12, 2008 at 12:58 pm
This ordinance is a terrible idea and one that will surely jeopardize independent venues across Chicago. I strongly oppose, and so will everyone else in the city when they hear about it.
855. Steven Rosado | May 12, 2008 at 12:58 pm
Consider this comment my official “signature” voicing my dissaproval with this ordinance. If it passes, the city art scene as we know it will cease to exist. I live in the 35th ward and have already called Rey Colon to express my concern over this proposal in hopes that he will vote no for the ordinance and stand with the people on this one, not allowing the city greed to destroy our community arts.
-Steven Rosado
856. Ulla M. | May 12, 2008 at 12:58 pm
Please, do not that happen!
857. Danny Lopatka | May 12, 2008 at 12:58 pm
This is seriously outrageous. I play all around chicago and the suburbs every week with various different groups and i’m only 19. I couldn’t even get a license if i wanted to! I’m not the only one either. Tons of my friends who are in the music department of UIC along with me do the same thing.
From a promoter’s stand point, which i do for some of my groups, most people don’t want to drive out to some random suburb to see their friends’ bands.
Also, what will happen to touring bands? Are they going to come all the way out to chicago only to find they need a license to play somewhere?
ridiculous.
858. Ann McGregor | May 12, 2008 at 12:58 pm
This is seriously bad governance. As an aspiring cabaret singer, I don’t have the money to pay for such fees in order to perform.
859. Dan Filowitz | May 12, 2008 at 1:00 pm
As someone who has produced several small-venue theatrical performances in this city, this new law would be outrageously prohibitive.
It can’t be allowed to pass.
860. Virginia Hunt | May 12, 2008 at 1:00 pm
This is ridiculous! There are free shows all over Chicago that are just as good… PLEASE CHICAGO, do NOT pass the ordinance!
861. Geoff Freimark | May 12, 2008 at 1:01 pm
This is not only outrageous as a law, it’s too vague to even be considered one! This ordinance will affect every promoter, musician, DJ, actor/actress, or street performer in the city! Enough with over-legislation!
862. Liz Roth | May 12, 2008 at 1:01 pm
please do not pass this ordinance. it will be the final nail in the chicago music scene’s coffin.
863. Ben Zastrow | May 12, 2008 at 1:02 pm
Come on artists and fans. We need to stop this law from being past. Chicago is the creative melting of the United States. We need to come together and express ourselves.
864. Adam Garel | May 12, 2008 at 1:03 pm
As an adult who now resides in Chicago and has been watching music in this great city since I was a young boy, this new ordinance would greatly restrict the productive and passionate voice that this city’s music has been providing.
These fees are ridiculous and should not have any grip on performers in the area.
865. Brooks Smith | May 12, 2008 at 1:03 pm
I have played in bands and have “promoted” my own shows for more than 2 decades in Chicago.
The style of music that I play is not a commercially viable form of entertainment. The fans that it draws are neither great in number nor well to do, in fact, most of them are in their teens and have a very limited disposable income.
Until now, it has been possible for us to secure venues to put on these shows because of sympathetic club owners or even individuals who are willing to allow the use of their home or place of business.
This ordinance will not only kill the music scene that we are involved in but it will make it very difficult for independent touring bands to call Chicago one of their regular stops.
This ordinance will send a message that Chicago only cares to embrace forms of entertainment with deep pockets.
Shameful.
866. Ryan Scott | May 12, 2008 at 1:03 pm
I strongly disagree with this bill.
867. Ray Pritchett | May 12, 2008 at 1:04 pm
Peace Of Mind!!! Fuck Tha Government!! Its Hard Enough To Make An Honest Living As It Is… The More our Government Puts Limitations On Things, The Higher Our CRIME RATE GOES UP!!! Whatever Happened To Land Of The Free And Home Of The Brave?? Well I’m Brave Enough To say That That Is How We Our Losing Our Freedom!!! Thanks For The Info! And Thanks For Your Support!! PEACE!!!
868. Dan Telfer | May 12, 2008 at 1:04 pm
This would effectively crush Chicago culture, where 99% of the performers and performers do it for their love of the art and make no money for such a situation.
Knock it off, you insane rich people. Clearly you have no concept of how this city’s art is created.
869. Margaret Emish | May 12, 2008 at 1:05 pm
I am strongly opposed to this ordinance. One of the best reasons to live in this city is because of the thriving music and theater scene, this is ridiculous and absolutely should not be passed.
870. Don Hoss | May 12, 2008 at 1:05 pm
And to think city officials think they want the olympics — this city is based on “culture” not restrictions. how could you even think people would want to come here with nothing to see or do, except for big inside entertainment items. We need community and variety of exposurte for our local artists and musicans to go and be seen!
871. Kevin Krause | May 12, 2008 at 1:06 pm
This law is the most ridiculous law i’ve ever seen.
this law should pass. Where will local bands play?
872. BETH MCDOWELL | May 12, 2008 at 1:06 pm
This legislation is ridiculous. Such high licensing fees prohibit any promotions from smaller venues, artists, and promotions companies, and resultantly prohibit any growth and development of local music and arts. The only people with enough money to pay these fees are larger touring and record companies.
873. Jamie T | May 12, 2008 at 1:06 pm
Chicago has such a rich culture through out theatre, music, and art. we can’t let this happen.
874. Ray Pritchett | May 12, 2008 at 1:07 pm
Stand Up For Wat U Believe In
875. Dean Milano | May 12, 2008 at 1:07 pm
Unbelievable. One more nail in the coffin for live entertainment and what little there is left of it.
876. Benjamin Hawk | May 12, 2008 at 1:09 pm
unconscionable
877. Sarah Doerr | May 12, 2008 at 1:09 pm
Please add my name to the list!
878. Colleen Glascott | May 12, 2008 at 1:09 pm
It would be a sad day to think the only place to hear a band it out in Tinley Park or Rosemont.
879. Kara Hetz | May 12, 2008 at 1:11 pm
As an individual performer, there’s no way I could afford this kind of insurance, nor could I pay for the licensing fees. Come to your senses! Do NOT pass this ordinance!
880. Jenn Remke | May 12, 2008 at 1:11 pm
Why would anyone make a law like this? Who on earth does it serve?
881. Andrea Bunch Old Town School of Folk Music | May 12, 2008 at 1:11 pm
This is an outrageous, oppressive act. It will stifle the voices of Chicago’s artists, and ruin the chance for Chicago’s citizens to create and enjoy art, music and theatre. I feel that this ordinance is against the First Amendment, as it will effectively silence anyone who is not wealthy.
882. Rebecca Zellar | May 12, 2008 at 1:12 pm
Let’s make sure this doesn’t happen.
883. Patricia J. Jones | May 12, 2008 at 1:12 pm
Passing this ordinance will be the nail in the Chicago Artistic and Smaller Theatre scenes. This is so harmful to the creative genius of the Chicgo history of smaller venues tha are no priced out of the average supporter’s pockets. PLEASE DO NOT PASS THIS UNFAIR ORDINANCE.
884. Brett Sova | May 12, 2008 at 1:12 pm
The idea of losing even a mere fraction of the amazing cultural events and opportunities this city has to offer is sickening and unacceptable!
885. Amy Rosen | May 12, 2008 at 1:12 pm
I’m with y’all, this ordinance makes no sense.
886. Norell Waltmire | May 12, 2008 at 1:13 pm
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887. adam sonderberg | May 12, 2008 at 1:13 pm
grotesque.
- – - – -,
adam sonderberg
888. Heidi Nebel | May 12, 2008 at 1:14 pm
What would be the point of living in a city that has been forced to become just as homogenized as the suburbs? We may as well outlaw wearing any color other than beige.
889. Clare K. | May 12, 2008 at 1:14 pm
Why would Chicago want to kill independent productions? It’s a great attraction many have to the city and a lack of the many small venue bands and small plays would ruin a large part of Chicago’s personality.
890. Maura Langevin | May 12, 2008 at 1:14 pm
I am just about to turn 21, and have been waiting for years to get into these places in order to listen to small venue, live music. Don’t take it away from me! I’ve been waiting for too long!
891. sarah | May 12, 2008 at 1:15 pm
I disapprove.
892. Jeanie B! | May 12, 2008 at 1:15 pm
As a person who makes their living performing music all over Chicagoland in smaller venues, this means certain death to my career and many others who have come to rely on the smaller venues to earn a living in this wonderful city. Think about how it would make you feel if someone in the city government one day passed an ordinance that eliminated your job potential without consulting you or caring about your career. Please find a way to root out the promoters that you seek without punishing the legitmate promoters that keep music alive in this city.
893. Marcos Ochoa | May 12, 2008 at 1:16 pm
Chicago must maintain its culture-places such as Scubas, Double Door, and other venues are the definition of Chicago and its artistic history. The beat must go on. SAVE CHICAGO CULTURE!
894. John Matthew Simon | May 12, 2008 at 1:16 pm
“This World is Ours!!!”
Daley and his cronies are up to another asinine and uneducated ordinance that will stifle the greatest music industry in the nation. Something tells me that the bankrupting of our city should be corrected and payed for out the pockets of our politicians. No more sales tax raises or idiotic ordinances to save a city that spends cash like a drunk gold coast’r. Welcome to reality… Democratic council men. We are at war and spending money like a rich kid. Don’t ruin our scene because all of you council men are trying to save your own arses. Enough is enough. Time is running out.
tell the ignorant souls to pursue necessary means to a profitable town like:
- Lake Wind Farms.
- A green tram system
- Tax breaks for bicyclists and non car riding individuals
- Recycling Programs
- A revamped industrial train system
-Rock and Rap shows at millenium park
Beauty is more than skin deep.
Save Our Culture!
Your friend,
John Matthew Simon. bully in the hallway.
895. Kerry | May 12, 2008 at 1:17 pm
Wow…. cuz chicago needs to steal more of our money. how about we just get rid of Mayor Daley???….. sounds good.
I am EXTREMELY OPPPOSED to this ordinance.
896. William Joy | May 12, 2008 at 1:17 pm
This ordinance is over-reaching and would quash unbelievable numbers of completely safe and benign events that collectively contribute to the rich cultural tapestry of Chicago. If enacted, it would almost instantly destroy a huge part of what makes Chicago culture unique and exciting.
897. Jackie Matejko | May 12, 2008 at 1:17 pm
Please don’t let this pass! Stick up for the little guy for once, Chicago!!
898. Ben Mazza | May 12, 2008 at 1:17 pm
Without “homegrown” shows and events like these, Chicago will cease to be a major cultural and artistic landmark. I would hope that the community leaders would prefer to donate finances to these projects, and not tax them.
899. David | May 12, 2008 at 1:17 pm
THIS ORDINANCE IS BULLSHIT
not all bands are big and can play venues that large so I don’t get why Chicago would do this
900. Hernan Sanchez | May 12, 2008 at 1:17 pm
Most independent venues/ promotional organizations already must surmount great financial hurdles with each event they promote, yet thankfully they persist in trying to broaden the diversity & perpetuate the growth of Chicago’s cultural landscape. This ordinance threatens to extinguish the very scene that Chicago has become known for in exchange for a prefab culture fueled by those with deep pockets. Consider the crippling effect this ill-conceived ordinance would have on our network of independent performers, theatrical organizations & performance venues should it come to pass- a great legacy would be lost, as current & future Chicago artists would be left without a voice in their own hometown. Aldermen, it is absolutely integral that you demonstrate your commitment to preserving the vitality of our local arts scene by putting forth a resounding NO to this proposed legislation- the cost is simply too great otherwise.
901. Rory | May 12, 2008 at 1:17 pm
This ordinance is preposturous. Where do ideas like this come from? Is the purpose to stifle some of Chicago’s art scene to place money in a few peoples pockets?
902. Sam Nigrosh | May 12, 2008 at 1:17 pm
As a musician, fan and citizen I strongly oppose this ordinance. Organizing shows and playing out is already such a hassle for young people and others with little resources. It’s the small venues and DIY shows that keep Chicago a worthwhile place see and play music.
903. jackie | May 12, 2008 at 1:18 pm
i am very much against this. I don’t see how one can charge a licensing fee to promote music. next thing you know there with be a charge for word-of mouth promotion too.
the city needs another cheap trick to get another buck.
904. Steven Kempner | May 12, 2008 at 1:18 pm
Unfair To Rights of Small Business
905. jason shanley | May 12, 2008 at 1:19 pm
As both a small venue music fan (that is schubas/EB/hideout/elastic/subt/reggies/ronnies/lampo/etc) and a small music venue performer, this ordance worries me. if it becomes difficult/impossible for small shows to occur then not only will the music community be hurt but Chicago as a whole will be hurt. beyond just the venues collapsing a whole subset of tourism to chicago will cease to exist and that will have far and wide impacts on the city economy in general.
a second consequnce will be more small “underground/pirate” shows. IE shows in basements and lofts, places that could be much more dangerous but nessisary as the price to be a legitimate space becomes prohibitively expensive.
please rethink the options and think about the arts/music culture of this city.
906. Brian | May 12, 2008 at 1:19 pm
Please do not pass this ordinace, artists might as well pack up and leave.
907. Michael Bocwinski | May 12, 2008 at 1:20 pm
I would move out of chicago if this happens. Stop it!
908. Dorothy Clare Tessman | May 12, 2008 at 1:20 pm
The passage of this ordinance into law would be a tragedy caused by city corruption and allowed by apathy.
Every amazing city is made up of communities of all sorts, and for Chicago to thrive, the sorts of communities which can form at almost impromtu events are essential! Those kinds of events, like “Journey to the End of the Night!” that could become prohibitively expensive under this law are what make this a fascinating and vibrant environment.
Please help to stop this!
909. Kevin Benham | May 12, 2008 at 1:20 pm
Save our city, stop the “Event Promoters” ordinance
910. Jason S. Thompson | May 12, 2008 at 1:20 pm
This is the worst thing I’ve heard all year.
I can’t believe that anyone would even THINK that this would be a good idea.
911. Steve Gadlin | May 12, 2008 at 1:20 pm
Wow, this would adversely affect my ability to promote and stage Chicago’s crazy live game show, Don’t Spit the Water! You can learn more about this show that would be difficult to promote and stage by visiting the web site, http://www.dontspitthewater.com.
912. Lili-Anne Brown | May 12, 2008 at 1:21 pm
This is yet another example of how undervalued the arts are in general. This could pretty much wipe out the entire cabaret and storefront theatre scene. And for no other reason than bureaucrats not taking the time to be specific, and consider that not all “entertainment” is created equal. Artists and party promoters can’t just be lumped together! That doesn’t even make sense.
913. kevin kurtz | May 12, 2008 at 1:22 pm
seems utterly ridiculous & against everything that a creative, free society should embrace. what are they thinking!?
914. Dillon Kelley | May 12, 2008 at 1:22 pm
Aside from expressing ourselves on the web and talking about how terrible this ordinance will be, is there anyone who is organizing a physical presence at the council meeting to make sure our voices are heard? If anyone has any information on a demonstration or anything going on at city hall, please email me at dillonkelley86@yahoo.com Thanks and hope to hear from someone soon. We need to take action!
915. Peter Hickey | May 12, 2008 at 1:22 pm
I am opposed to this ordinance. But the deal has most likely been cut and confirmed by this point. Kind of like that beautiful underground childrens museum in Grant Park. Too late.
916. Dennis M. Kelly | May 12, 2008 at 1:22 pm
Just had to voice in one more time here….
Where has the meaning to “WE THE PEOPLE” gone?
It seems that We the People now means, “We the POWERLESS” to affect changes for what we as a society really want.
Did the people ask for this ordinance? I don’t think so!
I personally feel something we really need to rethink our Government structure, from small fish all the way to the top.
They are supposed to be PUBLIC SERVANTS, not overlords who dictate what should happen and when.
But first things first, lets ensure that this ordinance will NOT pass!
917. David Daniels | May 12, 2008 at 1:23 pm
Please do not pass this ordinance. It will place an undue burden on an already struggling business.
918. Josephine Howard | May 12, 2008 at 1:23 pm
Chicago’s independent theatre and small music venues are an integral part of what makes this “Chicago.” I am opposed to the passing of this Ordinance which I see as another source of quick revenue for the City.
919. Garrett Abromitis | May 12, 2008 at 1:23 pm
It’s a shame people would try to conceive and ordinance like this.
920. Morgana Moon | May 12, 2008 at 1:23 pm
So no smoking in bars, no performing arts in bars…..whats next? this is completely wrong- and unnecessary! Come on chicago! Don’t sink lower than you have too- let people have somewhat of a choice and ability to live!
921. Nikki | May 12, 2008 at 1:24 pm
Please do not pass this ordnance. Chicago is a lively, culturally historic city and this will not only diminish the vibrancy of Chicago, it will strip away at our historic and cultural legacy. Please no!!
922. Erin Dixon | May 12, 2008 at 1:25 pm
This is very uncalled for. Where does the city get off?
923. Brett | May 12, 2008 at 1:25 pm
a lot of people would honestly use this as a great excuse to leave chicago and help feed the growing trend of migrating to other cities.
924. Nirvana tribute | May 12, 2008 at 1:25 pm
Once again the City Of Chicago tries to screw over it’s people. We already pay enough in taxes, parking tickets, city stickers, etc…and now this.
There is something very wrong with the politicians of this city.
They truly do not care for your music or the community.
We have emailed and called our alderman to vote against this stupid ordinance.
-J.Sam.Alex
Nevermind: Touring Nirvana Tribute
http://www.myspace.com/nevermindnirvanatribute
925. Jake Skiba | May 12, 2008 at 1:26 pm
This is absolutely disgusting. I can understand the minor problems caused by activities such as raves, and drug influenced events, but why punish all of Chicagoland for the actions of a select few? Furthermore, what is the need for licensing (other than governmental control and taxes) and double insurane? This will kill Chicago’s rich artistic culture. And what do we as a city get in return?
926. Tony Vibbert | May 12, 2008 at 1:26 pm
I don’t even live in Chicago and I think this ordinance is ridiculous. First Chicago, then the rest of the country…
927. Ricky Carmona | May 12, 2008 at 1:26 pm
I absolutely oppose this ordinance. I’m extremely angered that Ald. Schulter would be involved with an ordiinance such as this one. Seeing something like this happens further strengthens my belief that politicians are not looking out for our best interests.
928. Patrick Melvin | May 12, 2008 at 1:26 pm
If this ordinance is passed, Chicago will deteriorate it’s attempt at progressively expanding it’s Art/Culture status. This is SUCH a wonderful city for seeing Live Music…why would anyone want to destroy that?
I think I may throw up.
929. Bill McCormick | May 12, 2008 at 1:27 pm
This is so broad and so onerous that it will simply kill any chance any artist has of perfroming in our city. This needs to be killed before it ever even gets a chance of seeing the light of day.
930. Kevin V. Smith | May 12, 2008 at 1:27 pm
This sounds ridiculous. I hope it doesn’t happen.
931. Nellie | May 12, 2008 at 1:27 pm
Please do not pass this. As someone who has grown up around Chicago, and who has recently moved to Chicago specifically for Comedy, I find this terrifying. I am proud of Chicago for all of the opportunities it presents to artists, and it would be a shame to see that hindered by greed.
932. Brad Smith | May 12, 2008 at 1:27 pm
Please don’t pass these silly laws. The music scene in this town needs al the help it can get.
933. Robert Bouwman | May 12, 2008 at 1:28 pm
As a theater company that has been around for 16 years, it is with a sad heart that I read of this ordinance. When Corn Productions started out when there was a small burgeoning theater scene and we banded together and put up shows and were successful because we worked hard and had talent and there was so much opportunity in this great city. Through companies like us and those that came before us, Chicago has become known all over as the go to place for storefront and new theater. Then the “theater raids” happened a few years ago and almost wiped out the companies with a small storefront space. Through the hard work of Marge Halpern and the League of Chicago Theaters, the city worked with the small theaters to make it possible to liscense them with out all the hurdles. Now it seems they want us out again. Can’t the city council understand that “taxing” the small companies, the capellaries of the theatrical community, they will in effect wipe them out and soon the whole body will suffer.
Those of us who run and work in the small companies work for nothing or next to nothing, we do it because we love theater and the community it brings together. Can the city council members say that? Putting up these hurdles for the city’s finacial gain is like stealing candy from a baby. It’s easy, you can do it , but the baby will suffer.
Please reconsider this ordinance.
Robert Bouwman
Artistic Director
Corn Productions
934. Megan Buckley | May 12, 2008 at 1:28 pm
I am opposed to the passing of this ordinance.
935. gregorio gomez | May 12, 2008 at 1:28 pm
Please add my name to your list…I have been running the “WEEDS” poetry venue for a long time…and I remember when the city also tried to make small venues apply for a PPA (Public Place of Amusement) license…we even called for a meeting at the original “Hot House” in Wicker Park and were able to stop that process…this seems like the same attempt to either regulate or totally end the small venue art scene whether its poetry, theater, music etc; which has made this city so eclectic in its attempt be world renown…
936. Lisa | May 12, 2008 at 1:28 pm
I am absolutely against this bill being passed!!!!
937. Andrew DeWitt | May 12, 2008 at 1:28 pm
We must not allow this to happen. Chicago thrives on young hip and new talent, yet this would effectively destroy it and turn the city into something lame and devoid of art and character. Why not just make all restaunts Bar Louies?
938. Paul Taneja | May 12, 2008 at 1:28 pm
Just the thought of this is terrible. Chicago is such a wonderful city, and one of the reasons is because of its diversity and its support of independent artists. This would be like destroying an entire culture. Please do NOT pass this ordinance.
939. ryan duffy | May 12, 2008 at 1:29 pm
ridiculous. don’t allow this to happen!
940. Kristen Studard | May 12, 2008 at 1:29 pm
Stop it.
941. Robin Kurzer | May 12, 2008 at 1:29 pm
Add my name. Terrible.
942. Geneva Conway | May 12, 2008 at 1:29 pm
For a city that claims to be the epicenter of musical culture that would be a low blow to all the musicians out there trying to to keep the music alive
943. Ruben Trejo | May 12, 2008 at 1:30 pm
I think the ordinance is absolutely ridiculous. It is going to devalue the music and art scene in Chicago and is a shameless way to make more money for the city.
944. Dan | May 12, 2008 at 1:30 pm
This is so wrong and crazy I can’t believe the city is wasting time even thinking about this. Weather its music, arts, poetry people need it, to get away from all the BS they deal with in everyday life. We need this in Chicago and I do believe Chicago needs this in Chicago.
945. Julianna Tassone | May 12, 2008 at 1:30 pm
I oppose this ordinance as it seems to put a dollar sign on first amendment rights and creative expression. You can’t express yourself unless you pay the price first.
946. Arvo Zylo | May 12, 2008 at 1:30 pm
I’ll be outta here in two shakes of a lamb’s tail if they pass this.
947. Kerry | May 12, 2008 at 1:30 pm
So basically we are all movie to LA, NY, and Miami……. thanks Daley
948. Yancy Blaylock | May 12, 2008 at 1:30 pm
Independent promoters & performers make little to no money to begin with. Could we please not legislate them out of business entirely? It’s hard to imagine why a would-be world class city that’s trying to attract the Olympics would want to snuff out culture.
949. Michelle Graves | May 12, 2008 at 1:30 pm
I am an independent artist as well as on the board for a not-for-profit roller derby team (The Chicago Outfit).
These are just two examples of motivated activities that will disappear if this ordinance is passed.
This is the most unintelligent way to control promotion. It is ridiculously pointless and will monopolize corporate advertising.
This is not what Chicago is all about!!
950. Samantha Spencer | May 12, 2008 at 1:30 pm
Chicago needs to protect it’s arts and music scene. It’s why people love this city.
951. matt lang | May 12, 2008 at 1:31 pm
This feels like we are going back to the 1300′s where if we had certain intervals in our music (minor 4th) the composer would be hung because the “King” didn’t like the sound. Or when if you had an idea, if people thought it was weird, you were stoned to death. Its like death to creativity. It almost sounds Communist. Since when in America do we have to hide our creativity? Doing art, of any kind, has never been about making money, thus the phrase “starving artist.” Chicago is a town where it is very accessible to do art of ANY kind. Thats why i moved here, not because the city is pretty or clean or has a great recycling program. Maybe we should elect a new mayor. Ever give that a thought?
952. Michael del Rosario | May 12, 2008 at 1:31 pm
This city breeds so many good artists mainly because of its many venues and active music scene. There are many independent artists that are able to get exposure here. This ordinance will only make it impossible for these artists to grow.
953. Nirvana tribute | May 12, 2008 at 1:32 pm
Brett,
Can you blame them for leaving Chicago?
Bands actually get PAID better and DO ALOT BETTER when they do leave to other cities. Chicago is just becoming too expensive for musician’s to live in and now this oridinance might be the final nail to it all.
Hope you understand why this affects so many musicians who make their living off of music and playing in Chicago.
-Nevermind
954. barry bennett | May 12, 2008 at 1:32 pm
is this how the city council wants to celebrate chicago as a world class city? destroy the very fabric of the city’s culture and make way for kickbacks from cooperate interests?!! i suppose i need to get ready to move the family to Des Moines; since if this ordinance passes i’ll be out of a job as an independent artist. chicago will be the cultural equal to Des Moines if this passes, anyway… might as well beat the rush.
or FIGHT FOR OUR CITY!!!!!
955. ChicagoMusicPromotions | May 12, 2008 at 1:32 pm
Hello i have been around the city of chicago for a few years now and i have 2 music related websites here locally that promote independent artists, djays, labels & promoters i was very livid to hear this new law they want to pass since the chicago music scene already sucks in aspects to begin with and this would only put a knife into it more.
I know i am going to be their so Much Respect!!
Respectfully
Matthew Nalett
New Music Promote
admin@newmusicpromote.com
http://www.newmusicpromote.com
Chicago Music Promotions
admin@chicagomusicpromotions.com
http://www.chicagomusicpromotions.com
956. Shannon | May 12, 2008 at 1:33 pm
No! No! The scene is already slowly dying we can’t just give it to them! No! No! I love Chicago please don’t make me move!
957. Henry Everett | May 12, 2008 at 1:33 pm
This smells to be very reminiscent of the ordinances that prevented the movie industry from wanting to shoot in Chicago for so long; unless they wanted to pay unrealistic fees of course. Even movies that were supposedly “in Chicago” were often shot in other cities due to exorbitant ordinances like this. If this ordinance is allowed to pass, you’ll see the same disappearance of musicians from the city. You’d think that they city council would learn its lesson about sticking it to the little man, but apparently not. They are too busy giving high paying jobs to their unqualified relatives & descendants to care.
958. Bob | May 12, 2008 at 1:33 pm
Say No to Event Promoters Ordinace!!!! It’s a terrible idea
959. Chrissy Martens | May 12, 2008 at 1:33 pm
This ordinance will put a giant dent not only on the cultural scene in Chicago but will also put a dent in the economy which I’m sure some people are failing to realize. If shows in the city are put to a stop, less suburbs kids will be coming to the city on a regular basis. Therefore they will not be spending money on public transportation, parking, food services, and other things that the city of Chicago depends on to keep its income up. Chicago bands pride themselves on being from the city and without having the chance to play and be promoted people from other places that are drawn to these bands will no longer come. A lot of teenagers or early college students majoring in music business or even just with a passion for bands who form street teams and like to pass out fliers for the band will be left without an avenue to help out their bands. Hurting such a vital part of the Chicago culture is not wise – it hurts Chicago in so many ways – its bands, its nightlife, its tourism, its economy, and overall its culture. This ordinance should not be passed.
960. Jennifer McCue | May 12, 2008 at 1:33 pm
Do not stifle the artist!
961. Imran Shahbaz | May 12, 2008 at 1:34 pm
As a person who works in the Audio/ Visual Production industry, many of our clients are people who produce music and cultural events. Our company delivers and installs staging, lighting and sound so that these events can take place. The proposed promoter ordinance will affect the already-low revenues we are facing in todays economy, as a result of “promoters” not being able to afford to hire us.
The underground/illegitimate “promoters” will continue to operate while people who put together decent cultural events are being penalized.
962. Patti McKenny | May 12, 2008 at 1:34 pm
Do NOT let this travesty happen. Disastrous for independent artists.
963. Simon Buckley | May 12, 2008 at 1:34 pm
This ordinance is ridiculous, and quite frankly is making me ill as I type. I am so bored by mainstream music, and live to find great new music in the smaller venues of Chicago. Please, please do not do this Chicago. What are you thinking? There is such an artistic driving force in this city, do not let that go away.
Simon Buckley
964. Carol Ann King | May 12, 2008 at 1:34 pm
I can’t believe this. It is downright insane. If this is passed I will never step foot in a Chicago venue again. I would rather fly to New York than support this gangland style ownership.
965. Sandra Trevino | May 12, 2008 at 1:35 pm
Yes, we need reform and rules but there is a way to go about doing it without KILLING any events, any new promoters and especially any new ideas. Count my signature as a protest.
966. Chris Reigle | May 12, 2008 at 1:35 pm
Thats horrible.
967. Steven Hashimoto | May 12, 2008 at 1:35 pm
Add my name please!
968. Alexander Bassett | May 12, 2008 at 1:35 pm
As toronto based electro group MSTRKRFT said at their last performance here in chi…. The Jews have Isreal, The Muslims have Mecca…. Dance music has Chicago. This opinion rings true in every city I visit to DJ. Chicago is nationally known as a place where new ideas grow. Without the small venues and promoters working hard together this will no longer be true. Long live Chicago, dont stop the music!
969. Rob Clearfield | May 12, 2008 at 1:35 pm
This legislation will only hurt musicians and artists. This will strongly undermine local art, music and culture in big and small ways. I can speak from experience that anyone organizing local art/music events underground is NOT really making money at it anyway. Chicago has one of the best music scenes in the United States for almost every kind of music and this would hurt it in every way.
970. Drew Krag | May 12, 2008 at 1:36 pm
This is a violation of our basic freedom. We have a mecca of artists in this city, if this is passed, it will be an open palm bitch slap to the whole artistic community. Art is the one freedom we have left, if we loose that, we have absolutely nothing.
971. John Brewster | May 12, 2008 at 1:36 pm
It is ridiculous that such an ordinance is even being considered, let alone being taken to vote. This would devastate storefront theaters and small music venues in the city. Put my name on the list as strongly opposing this ordinance.
972. Rachal Young | May 12, 2008 at 1:36 pm
time to get rid of daley!!!!! stupid jerk trying to get rid of our culture! if only the thought about how much revenue comes into the city because of small venue shows! this would just discourage that!
973. ChicagoMusicPromotions | May 12, 2008 at 1:37 pm
I know i will be there I think this new law is retarted and well i have been promoting artists and djays on my music sites in chicago for years that would just hurt them even more. The chicago music scene already sucks why are they trying to put a bigger knife into it.
Much Respect
Chicago Music Promotions
http://www.chicagomusicpromotions.com
admin@chicagomusicpromotions.com
974. Garrett | May 12, 2008 at 1:37 pm
This is a terrible idea.
975. Jennifer Choi | May 12, 2008 at 1:37 pm
Please do not pass the ordinance!
976. Matt Drufke | May 12, 2008 at 1:38 pm
As a comedian, I understand what a problem this could be for the Chicago comedy scene as well.
977. James Williams | May 12, 2008 at 1:38 pm
this is bull…Chicago is a major entertainment market and it needs to stay that way to keep with the rich entertainment history of this city (Bill Murray, Bernie Mac, Tina Fey, Lupe Fiasco etc).
978. Jen Hammond | May 12, 2008 at 1:39 pm
I am completely against this! Don’t pass ordinances that could restrict artists in Chicago. We need more of them than we have now – not less!
979. Kevin L. Ourd | May 12, 2008 at 1:39 pm
Dear City Council of Chicago.
Don’t do it. There’s no reason to do it. Yes, I know the big picture, and I know all of the gears that are turning behind that little curtain of yours. What you are about to do will change things forever. We will not sit idly by and wait for you to take away the rest of our freedom. We might be lazy, and we might not know everything that happens. But there will be a time when a line has been crossed, and believe me, this is leap towards that line.
By this point, you might not have anything that you can do about it, and you might be having regrets. If you pass the ordinance, then there will be thousands of disgruntled civilians, whose mere discontent grows in to something beyond your control, beyond our control. But, if you keep the ordinance from going through, there will be at least a small part to keep us occupied as those gears of yours keep turning.
As an audio engineer, I would be feeling this blow as much as anyone else. Please consider my Words.
Kevin L. Ourd
980. ChicagoMusicPromotions | May 12, 2008 at 1:40 pm
This law is not just going to effect the music scene but for anyone who does any live venues or events. promoter is a very broad term of language it can be used to promote events, shows, showcases, comedy clubs, music venues, bars, festivals, there is so many things this law could mess up its sick.
981. Matthew Genthe | May 12, 2008 at 1:40 pm
Add my name to petition. This will end end up costing the city money in lost tax revenue from all of the venues it will shut down.
982. Andrew Jenkins | May 12, 2008 at 1:41 pm
This is an incredibly dumb ordinance. It will only serve to drive the life out of this city. I know I won’t be proud to live here anymore.
983. Chicago Music | May 12, 2008 at 1:41 pm
You can Count me in i am not sure if my other posts showed up but you will see Chicago Music Promotions showing support for yall.
matt
984. Rachel Wolfson | May 12, 2008 at 1:41 pm
Please don’t let this pass. we need to keep music alive!
985. Kevin Wills | May 12, 2008 at 1:41 pm
please do not do this!!!
986. Edd Fairman | May 12, 2008 at 1:42 pm
In these slow economic times, some performances are just surviving. Adding this ridiculous ordinance on top of it will surely close some performances. The big papers in the city have stopped printing reviews of small shows, setting them back and now this. So long off loop theater.
987. Joshua Allard | May 12, 2008 at 1:42 pm
In a city were finding employment for any kind of self-sufficiency or further experience is already taken over by affirmative action, or illegal aliens, or die-hard tenured status political whores, this would make my continued work as a costume designer exceptionally more difficult. If the city wants to make/save money and in turn give the police force something to actively focus on, how about taxing/reducing funds and creating better patron behavior/traffic operations at the money-making sports and Equity organizations that dominate the city, ya know, or actually auditing the operations of the already corrupt state offices in Chicago. Making smaller theaters and music venues pay for perhaps hasty or “bad” decisions made by the City of Chicago seems like a little like a bully on a playground. Washington, D.C. wouldn’t do that to it’s theatre scene, so why the heck would you?
988. ERIK WHITE | May 12, 2008 at 1:42 pm
This legislation is ridiculous. Such high licensing fees prohibit any promotions from smaller venues, artists, and promotions companies, and resultantly prohibit any growth and development of local music and arts. The only people with enough money to pay these fees are larger touring, event, and record companies.
989. Jennifer Gwilliam | May 12, 2008 at 1:42 pm
Unfortunatley, fast-track legislation often carries with it unseen consequences. I am against the passing of this ordinance, as the ramifications on the vital music and theatre scene in Chicago have not been fully vetted. The safety of patrons is an imperative concern, but a “quick fix” “blanket” solution that destroys the Chicago cultural scene is certainly not the answer. In your haste to solve one problem, don’t create several more with lasting impacts on quality of life in the City at large…
990. Jose Calvo | May 12, 2008 at 1:42 pm
you have my support.. I oppose this ordinance.
991. Brummer | May 12, 2008 at 1:43 pm
I urge the City of Chicago’s City Council not to pass this destructive measure.
992. Kurt Raine | May 12, 2008 at 1:43 pm
This is ridiculious!!
993. Jay Spaulding | May 12, 2008 at 1:43 pm
I’m insulted that this proposal even exists, this is the city where modern comedy came from do to grass roots shows and artistic freedom. For shame….
994. Thomas Ramos | May 12, 2008 at 1:43 pm
This is completely unacceptable. Chicago is known for its music scene. Changing that would be bad for all parties involved.
995. Gemma Petrie | May 12, 2008 at 1:43 pm
Please do not pass this ordinance. I cannot believe this is even up for consideration.
Gemma Petrie
35th Ward
996. Bryan Balli | May 12, 2008 at 1:44 pm
As a self promoting artist operating in Chicago, the only thing I have is my ability to network among niche groups and perform at any and all small-mid size venues (as I develop my sound, character, abilities and retain an amount of self-respect).
Please do not take that ability away from me or anyone else who is not so financially blessed, or inclined to WANT to become a mainstream promoter / musician. Chicago will lose much of its originality, and blur into what is already becoming a commercial scene and music community, with no uniqueness on to its slef or geographical location.
997. Hope Schiele | May 12, 2008 at 1:44 pm
This would absolutely destroy Chicago’s independent art and music community, no doubt about it. It would be an absolute nightmare should it pass. We can’t let it happen.
998. Lucid Ground Street Team | May 12, 2008 at 1:44 pm
This cant happen!!
999. Chicago Music | May 12, 2008 at 1:44 pm
The biggest problem i see with this law is the following.
1. drive talent to the suburbs.
2. make the music scene here in chicago worse then it is
3. will not allow new talent to perform in the city limits
4. will not allow (unknown) promoters to help bring talent.
5. will impact the way people view chicago when it come to anything venue related not just music but anything live.
I have been doing website promotions for a few years now i have 2 music websites and mostly i deal with independent artists and nightclub djays. As for breaking these talent into the chicago market its been difficult since chicago has a broad taste of music and what they like, as for Creating this law its going to put a knife just further into the music scene and make chicago a weak place for musicians.
1000. Yuli | May 12, 2008 at 1:44 pm
Please do not pass the ordinance! It will be a tragedy for many people!
1001. Ed Ballinger | May 12, 2008 at 1:44 pm
I STRONGLY oppose this ordinance! This will RUIN the much loved Chicago music scene.
1002. Brendan Scanlon | May 12, 2008 at 1:45 pm
I find it terribly ironic that while on one hand Chicago claims that it is a cultural city that embraces and fosters new and different ideas, there always seem to be things like this ordinance being proposed that would do exactly the opposite. Lets not forget that what is considered mainstream today was the underground of yesteryear. Just for example have you ever heard of these little things called Jazz, Blues, or Hip-Hop?
There is little doubt in my mind that the insurance requirements, and licensing fees in this proposed ordinance would be the [legal] end to many Venues and Galleries. Which, in turn, would effectively stifle the proliferation of new and interesting ideas in all the arts.
1003. Michael Garcia | May 12, 2008 at 1:45 pm
We have a right to public assembly as well. I ask, how does the City intend to enforce this? Perhaps thug patrols in jackboots will repel down from helicopters and kick in the window at Cal’s or Mutiny and give any “unilcensed” “event-promotors” a citation? Right. Well, those man-hours are gonna cost the city, hence the license fee. So wait, maybe the police are going to do it? Yeah, that’s it- while there might be real criminals doing real crime somewhere else… This is an ordinance I intend to defy, should it be passed. It’s too much.
1004. Tammi | May 12, 2008 at 1:45 pm
Chicago is the heart of America when it comes to the music industry. Some one commented that the scene was slowly dying and we have to stop it. They are wrong, the scene has been slowly getting stronger and stronger. The only thing that can stop it is a crazy city law. But if you stop music in Chicago, you might as well stop eating in Chicago too. Other then plays, parks, and the sightsm, no tourist will have a reason to come back. I go to Chicago about twice a week. Where I pay to go to a concert, and I pay for traveling. Without the strong music scene that they have right now. I would never step foot into illinois. The taxes are high, and the food is taxed. But it’s worth it for a good concert. And not just one good concert, I would pay for every good concert.
1005. Robert Cruz | May 12, 2008 at 1:46 pm
This is an extremely, extremely ill-conceived ordinance. Who is this supposed to benefit? Performers and audiences are not the only people who should be concerned about this proposed ordinance. It certainly sounds as if the number of performance events is going to drop drastically if this thing goes thru — and if the number of events drops, this is also going to hurt anyone who owns or works at a restaurant, cafe, coffeeshop, tavern, etc. that caters to event-goers. Maybe we should be making the economic argument, as Mayor Daley does not seem to care about how this ordinance would impoverish our city’s creative scene. (And let’s all be real about this — the City Council never does anything unless the mayor wants it to happen.)
1006. Caleb D. Manci | May 12, 2008 at 1:46 pm
This can’t possibly be allowed. Theatre was born into this town in the grassroots fashion. We might as well be going back to being a town that has nothing but corporate slaughterhouses.
1007. Sharko B. | May 12, 2008 at 1:46 pm
You have may support and I’ve contacted my theater compatriots.
1008. Chris McNamara | May 12, 2008 at 1:47 pm
I oppose this ordinance.
1009. Christopher Jacobs (50th Ward | May 12, 2008 at 1:47 pm
This legislation will no only hurt the artists and musicians, but it will also hurt this City as well. What’s appealing about Chicago to the rest of the world, is it’s cultural and artistic diversity. As a theatre artist its the amount of small venues and theatre groups that brought me here. It’s rediculous. Between the taxes and these rediculous ordinances…it’s driving people out of this city.
1010. Nick Barnes | May 12, 2008 at 1:47 pm
Vote no.
1011. JP | May 12, 2008 at 1:48 pm
Count me in. This ordinance is ridiculous!
Jim
1012. Chicago Music | May 12, 2008 at 1:48 pm
Look what happend to house music it will NEVER DIE in chicago and well AS LONG As everyone here comes together The Music Scene will not DIE Either..
KEEP Music Alive!
http://www.newmusicpromote.com/DJ_Andre_Hatchett
1013. Steve Clay | May 12, 2008 at 1:48 pm
The music scene of Chicago wouldn’t be what it is today without the commitment of kids in basements and DIY shows. To cut that out at this time, when the scene is thriving so much and anyone can find a show in a backyard, a church, a basement, or a loft, would only serve to cripple the entire midwestern music scene, as Chicago is somewhat of an ultimate goal for bands, and become a great jumping point for bands.
If dangerous promoters are really a concern, then they should be addressed in a more focused and individual way.
1014. Jessica Bellian | May 12, 2008 at 1:48 pm
This ordinance is ridiculous and offensive, and needs to be stopped.
1015. Jason Guthartz | May 12, 2008 at 1:48 pm
Stop the insanity!!!
1016. Barbara Eno | May 12, 2008 at 1:49 pm
This city is based on creative arts if they pass this ordinance it would be soo disapointing! I wouldn’t even want to live in chicago anymore..it will not be my home if they pass this ordinance!!!
1017. JEAN MARC LAVOIE | May 12, 2008 at 1:49 pm
This seems overzealous, some good ideas but also some bad ideas. I disapprove of it the way its been proposed.
- Jean Marc Lavoie
1018. R Zake | May 12, 2008 at 1:49 pm
Although I rarely get out due to illness, if it wasn’t for some of the great musicians who have helped filmmakers get their films on their feet, the City has become one Yuppie Mosh Pit to ensure taxes, graft and Daley’s grandchildren a good future. Thanks Lip Service Productions for letting me know. I always take time out to support a good cause.
Z
1019. Andy Westley | May 12, 2008 at 1:49 pm
This seems to be a situation where a law has been designed to do one thing and will actually do something very different.
If your concern is safety – pass a law that makes people safer.
Not a law that severerly limits the choices that the citizens of Chicago have to make their own choices concerning live performances. This law, as I understand it, WILL NOT make people safer. It WILL serve to protect only the bank accounts of the owners of large venues and the promoters that book events there.
1020. Chad Kovac | May 12, 2008 at 1:49 pm
What stuffed shirt, probably with no interest in music, thought up this idea?!?!?!? They may think it will generate revenues, but I feel it will ultimately kill the Chicago music scene. Lots of people may not want to pay the ridiculous Ticketmaster prices to see a concert. Do not penalize them by taking away the ability to see local musicians. If these musicians want to play, they should make sure that the GUARANTEED price for the band will be enough to cover the fees that this stupid ordinance would create. Let the bar owners be the ones to take the loss. Maybe they will retaliate and the movement will have a bigger voice? What ever may happen, this is another way that the government is trying to starve the public of money because they are not doing a good enough job of managing their funds. STAND UP AND LET YOUR VOICE BE HEARD CHICAGO!!!!
1021. Keith Ecker | May 12, 2008 at 1:50 pm
You have my support, and I have additionally voiced my disapproval to my alderman.
1022. Chicago Music | May 12, 2008 at 1:50 pm
Look what happend to the House Music in chicago, chicago is famous for blues and house music but they are both still around and still alive As long as everyone comes together in unity the music scene in chicago will never DIE and as long as we all come together to fight this bill they wont have any leverage to work with and they will have to disreguard this bill.
1023. Bruce Ingram | May 12, 2008 at 1:50 pm
I strongly protest this proposal. The rich cultural scene in Chicago is one of its greatest drawing cards and this would effectively snuff it out. Steppenwolf Theater never would have been able to set up shop in a church basement with a policy like this in place.
1024. Brian Nelke | May 12, 2008 at 1:50 pm
this is rediculous. why would a city want to get rid of something that they should be proud of? Many great entertainers have came out of chicago. Why would you want to stop the creative genius?
1025. Julie Nelson | May 12, 2008 at 1:51 pm
I do not support this ordinance and will also contact my alderman directly.
1026. mark miller architect | May 12, 2008 at 1:51 pm
This ordinance is trying to stop future horrific episodes from occurring like at the E2 club. But this ordinance does not address poor exiting or security and staff of a club from having training to assist visitors in a safe exit if such an event should occur again. This is misguided. The ordinance should really focus on the architectural design of exiting strategies, stairwell widths, number of exits, and training of crowd control staff. Please either revise the language of the ordinance or do not pass the current incarnation of this ordinance
1027. M Melfi | May 12, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Please stop this nonsense! We want to continue to live in a vibrant city with as much cultural diversity as possible. Please don’t punish the “little guys”.
1028. Jay | May 12, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Keep Chicago music alive!
1029. Kelley Mandolini | May 12, 2008 at 1:52 pm
I have lived in the Chicago suburbs my entire life and value the Chicago music scene as a best friend with whom I grew up and relied upon through hard times. As a teenager, attending local music concerts put on at venues such as the Metro and the House of Blues gave me pleasure that cannot be summed up in a mere paragraph protesting such a ridiculous ordinance. The music scene here in Chicago is one of friends, family, and amazing musicianship. To have such a blossoming local music scene stamped out in favor of large theatrical productions, or just for the city to make another dime off of, is devastating. Just remember everyone, if Chicago’s music scene wasn’t worth anything, this ordinance would not be up for approval. The councilmen must be made to understand that the cash cow they hope to suck money off of with wither away and die if this ordinance is passed. Keep the local scene alive and well for generations to come!!!!
1030. Kevin Quail | May 12, 2008 at 1:52 pm
Yeah, local artists and small clubowners already make SO much money that the price of inept and corrupt government should be paid by them. This is great way to kill off live music in Chicago. What else can anyone expect from the sub-moronic thieving idiots who run the city, county, state and federal governments? I guess all the trombonists in town won’t be buying those condos in Trump Tower after all.
1031. Jody | May 12, 2008 at 1:52 pm
This makes me fear for not only the local artists, but also the non profit organizations. This ordinance is not only unnecessary but also exploitative.
1032. Ben Fasman | May 12, 2008 at 1:53 pm
This is another version of the city’s attempts to scrape together whatever money it can from wherever it can. The Daleys (both father and son) have been strong-arming the private sector in whatever ways they see fit for decades. The problem is that this bill will hurt so much more than it will help. It will put jobs and business in harm’s way (not just venues, but lots of businesses that survive on the economic systems that these venues produce) and it will cripple whatever cultural capital this city is clinging to. The whole idea is ludicrous, and I can’t voice my opposition to it loudly enough. I’ve been living here for almost 5 ears and have never felt as at home here as I have in other cities. Maybe brainless the fact that brainless ordinances like this have any legs at all is one of the reasons why.
1033. Douglas Mitchell | May 12, 2008 at 1:53 pm
These licensing rules are bad policy, and short-sighted. The image of Chicago in the rest of the world bubbles over with independent music venues and small theater productions, showcasing talent in ways that give new meaning to the term “authentic.” The licensing requirements proposed would scuttle this talent intiative and reduce local creativity to a dull formula. Bad for tourism, bad for local life, bad for both producers and consumers of culture in our great city.
Keep the spirit of Chicago cultural entrepreneurism alive!
1034. Victor Marinier | May 12, 2008 at 1:54 pm
This can not be allowed, it will ruin the Chicago arts scene. I know that I for one will be moving as soon as possible if this passes.
1035. osvaldo Luna | May 12, 2008 at 1:54 pm
This is ridiculous, add me to the list.
Don’t let music die.
1036. P Lawless | May 12, 2008 at 1:54 pm
I vote No!
This is a ridiculous notion for Motion!
I guess the additional city inspectors hired to force Slum lords to comply with safety codes, that Stated “Mission Complete” need somthing else to do.
Isn’t ghost payrolling still alive and well in Chicago?
Leave live music alone!
1037. James Fritz | May 12, 2008 at 1:54 pm
Unnecessary. Stop it. You’re killing everything interesting in this city with laws that help no one. And this is a big one.
1038. Tim Gant | May 12, 2008 at 1:54 pm
Please lets not continue to shoot ourselves in the foot with pulling the heart and soul out of the Chicago music scene or whats left of it. We have lost,and sre losing so much music out of our schools and goverment funded programs lets not add a mortal blow to the club scene that we have left.
1039. Brian Daley | May 12, 2008 at 1:55 pm
I’m an active musician in and around Chicago and this ordinance would cripple my chosen form of expression. The last time I checked, expressing one’s self was not, yet, illegal in the United States.
1040. Meredith Armbruster | May 12, 2008 at 1:55 pm
add my name to the list!
1041. Stephanie Cunningham | May 12, 2008 at 1:55 pm
Doesn’t the city have anything better to do?
1042. Heather Crosby | May 12, 2008 at 1:55 pm
This is unacceptable. Please add my name to the list.
No! No! No!
1043. Alex B. | May 12, 2008 at 1:55 pm
This ordinance is the complete antithesis of the spirit of music, and does not serve well the feel of this city, which has for so long supported and cultivated a musical spirit. Other cities are keeping stride with Chicago in the music world, and this will do nothing to help us keep to the forefront.
1044. Emma Roetzer | May 12, 2008 at 1:55 pm
No way! Saying that I disapprove is an understatement! Chicago won’t be “home” to me if this ordinance is passed.
1045. elaine rodey | May 12, 2008 at 1:55 pm
Please don’t pass the ordinance. A rich and varied musical culture is essential to the innovative Chicago experience. We must refuse to be commodified and commercialized. This would also hurt tourism and put a big stain on the face of the supposedly forward-thinking/green mayor……
1046. Joshua Lyerla | May 12, 2008 at 1:56 pm
To pass thiss bill would be taking away part of Chicagos life and bloodline. People see Chicago as a mileston in American diversity, and to limit promoters is to take away a big part of this culture. Young bands cant always aford to hire big name promoters and young promoters cant afford to get this insurance no yet, thats what starting young does, get a few shows under your belt start a name for yourself. Of all people these politicians should understand, they too were young and begining thier careers as politicians they had to make a name for them selves. Passing this ordinance would kill so many dreams and take away a lifestyle, these politicians should focus more on the drug trafficing and crime rates not young promoters and musicians. I vote no to this ordinance.
1047. bk ellison | May 12, 2008 at 1:56 pm
I strongly object to the proposal of this ordinance and feel that it should not be passed.
1048. Tyler J. Patocka | May 12, 2008 at 1:56 pm
if you’re looking to strangle that repuation chicago has for a vibrant arts scene, well, you’d be hard-pressed to do a better job than this.
1049. Tony Noice | May 12, 2008 at 1:56 pm
I understand the desire to protect the public from events put on by unscrupulous promoters who could cause serious injuries. But this ordinance will probable eliminate a hundred serious small arts venues for every problematic one. Please rewrite the ordinance so that it precisely targets only the bad guys.
Tony Noice, PhD
Professor of Theatre
1050. Brandon | May 12, 2008 at 1:57 pm
I oppose this ordinance. It’s terrible.
1051. Felicia Holman | May 12, 2008 at 1:57 pm
Another blatant display of graft by the City of Chicago!
Is this proposed law supposed to bolster the City’s chances for getting the Olympics or something???
Utter Bullshit!!!!
1052. tammy | May 12, 2008 at 1:57 pm
I moved all they way to Chicago from Texas for the theatre and improv! I strongly oppose this ordinance -if all we’re left with is big corporate theatres what’s the reason to stay in chicago?
1053. Ken Baker | May 12, 2008 at 1:57 pm
Please do not pass this ordinance!
1054. Rey Reyes | May 12, 2008 at 1:57 pm
The concerned I have is that this would stifle artistic expression in the city would impose n economic hardship for many small promoters of the arts. Artists would lose opprtunities to be seen and heard, or to self-promote, and ultimately choking our great music and entertainment environment. There are some legitimate safety issues that are being addressed by the ordinance, but the language seems very broad, and I urge the council to reject this ordinance and go back to the drawing board to come up with a more effective way to deal with the issue.
1055. Stop Smiling Magazine » City of Chicago to Regulate Live Music / A Petition Worth Signing | May 12, 2008 at 1:58 pm
[...] venues in the city. Follow Jim DeRogatis’ coverage of this bill here, and sign the petition here. This proposal, truly, borders on insanity. Not only will it effectively rub out dozens and dozens [...]
1056. amber lissy | May 12, 2008 at 1:59 pm
Chicago is my hometown and I would not have managed to get where I am today without the music scene there. When I was under the age of 21, going to shows at the small venues was one of the few things I really looked forward to in the city. Shows kept me out of trouble and meeting new people all while having a good time. I would hate to see the younger generations not get the experience I did by some ridiculous ordinance. I now reside in St. Pete, FL and I love the music scene here, but it is nothing compared to what goes down in Chi-town!
1057. Julie Herwitt | May 12, 2008 at 1:59 pm
One of the things that makes Chicago great is it’s diverse music community and the fact that smaller bands and groups can perform. It would really be a shame if the City Council squashed music artists with this expensive legislation meant to deal with a “bad” club owner.
1058. Joanne Bethishou | May 12, 2008 at 1:59 pm
I really don’t see who this would be benefitting…
1059. Kelly Reaves | May 12, 2008 at 1:59 pm
This is absolutley ridiculous. If this ordinance is passed I will, without a doubt, move to LA and take everyone I can with me.
1060. Doug Hollet | May 12, 2008 at 1:59 pm
This cant happen!
1061. Salvatore Dellaria | May 12, 2008 at 1:59 pm
City Council! Please collaborate with the community to draft a version of this ordinance that does not negatively impact Chicago’s cultural integrity! Don’t throw the baby out with the bath-water!
1062. Michael Narvaez | May 12, 2008 at 1:59 pm
The chairman of the committee that OK’d this proposal and sent it on to the city council is 47th Ward Ald. Gene Schulter.
Here’s his contact info:
47th Ward Office
4237 N. Lincoln Avenue
Chicago, IL 60618
773-348-8400
773-348-8480 (fax),
Email: ward47@cityofchicago.org
Committee on License and Consumer Protection
The Committee on License and Consumer Protection has jurisdiction over the licensing of persons, property, businesses and occupations and all matters relating to consumer protection, products liability, consumer fraud and all matters relating to the Department of Consumer Services.
Chairman: Eugene C. Schulter
Vice-Chairmen: Isaac Carothers
Members: Fioretti, Lyle, Cardenas, Olivo, Cochran, Zalewski, Reboyras, Banks, Doherty, Tunney, Shiller, M. Smith
1063. Jim | May 12, 2008 at 1:59 pm
Why kill culture for money? Find somewhere else to steal money from artists and those that thoroughly enjoy the arts from an intelligent artistic light OTHER THAN what we are told to like from mainstream on Mtv and American Idol.
1064. Val Keller | May 12, 2008 at 2:00 pm
What good will this do anyone? It will hurt Chicago’s vibrant and eclectic music scene, something this city is known for.
1065. Brian Bell | May 12, 2008 at 2:00 pm
This is really ridiculous. Anyone with half a brain knows that Chicago’s cultural scene is what makes the city so vibrant. And the city leaders should be wise enough to recognize the incredible influx of revenue that the existence of these spaces supplies.
As a working artist in Chicago, the idea of even more city-imposed bureaucracy on organizations that are struggling as it is, appalls me. I hope that the alderman will see the light and recognize this for the sham that it is.
1066. Ben | May 12, 2008 at 2:00 pm
I knew we shouldn’t have let Clear Channel buy out Chicago.
1067. Susan Stamler | May 12, 2008 at 2:00 pm
As a suburbanite I cannot vote for Chicago politicians. Perhaps, however, I owe them a favor. If they pass this ordinance I suspect there will be more music, plays, etc in suburban venues and I will have to travel less (and spend less money in Chicago) to avail myself of those opportunities.
1068. jean and karla leroy | May 12, 2008 at 2:00 pm
my wife and I are both self employed musicians (with a new-born child). In addition to nailing the coffin shut on Amiricas nearly art-less culture, this ordinance would make my family’s existance nearly inpossible.
It is shocking that one could even concieve of such a rediculus plan- even more amazing is that is is actually being considered by those prople who are supposed to have the peoples’ best interest in mind.
very disapointed,
jean and karla leroy
1069. eak | May 12, 2008 at 2:00 pm
city council sure knows how to lead this town…right down the shitter.
1070. Karen | May 12, 2008 at 2:00 pm
This is so not good for Chicago.
1071. Morris O'Riordan | May 12, 2008 at 2:00 pm
Let your alderman know not to vote on this. The local clubs will not survive and the local musicians will go with it. Vote no on this ordinance
1072. Mae Seeun | May 12, 2008 at 2:00 pm
This would crush arts!
1073. Jane Hanna | May 12, 2008 at 2:00 pm
I will proudly join my voice to this opposition, both as a local musician and as the events promoter for the Chicago Reader.
1074. Chad Wise | May 12, 2008 at 2:00 pm
I am vehemently against this ordinance and the impact it will have on Chicago’s appeal as a diverse entertainment destination.
1075. Tom | May 12, 2008 at 2:01 pm
I do not understand how someone can be so blind to what has made Chicago one of the greatest cities in the world!
1076. Melissa T | May 12, 2008 at 2:01 pm
This ordinance is downright disgusting! What a brilliant idea: rob Chicago of its vibrant culture. Unbelievable.
1077. Arman Razavi | May 12, 2008 at 2:01 pm
I just did an interview on Chicago Public Radio. We are trying to get as many people as we can involved. If you read the petition, this ordinance is not just about club promoters, it affects block parties, sporting events, concerts (specially smaller places like Double Door & Metro) or any event that holds more than 100 people. The other part of the ordinance that is scary, basically puts the burden of proof on venues. Venues could loose their license completely or not be allowed to promote another event for up to 6 months if they work with promoters who are not licensed. All promoters have to put their license number on all ads, fliers, emails and such. Basically hanging a target on the back of the promoters. This is scary big brother stuff.
1078. Tom Murphy | May 12, 2008 at 2:01 pm
It’s not really the ordinance itself that is going to kill the music scene here in Chicago. It’s not even the ridiculous fees that the city wants to charge. It’s the liability insurance requirement.
What do you think an insurance company is going to charge for that $300,000 in coverage once they find out that it is required by law. And that’s if they will cover anyone at all once they find out that we are as liable for anything that may occur at a venue even though we do not have the liquor license, or hire the security or lock exit doors, or over serve patrons, etc.
Time to move this vibrant community to the suburbs. They would love to have what Chicago routinely not only takes for granted, but litlerally tries to kill.
Welcome to Chicago’s Olympics world….a vast entertainment wasteland.
This is such an inane load.
Tom Murphy
President
Big Creek Productions
1079. Justin Burt | May 12, 2008 at 2:01 pm
The problem with this ordinance is its broad construction. Essentially, it could apply to jam bands that play some dive with a crowd of 7 die hard fans. I fail to see the problem with the current set up. On its face, the ordinance is clearly discriminatory, and will certainly have a profound effect smaller venues and bands that come to this great city. If the city wants siphon more money out of already poor, starving indie kids, raise the tax on ticket sales…
1080. Chris DiDomenico | May 12, 2008 at 2:01 pm
I am involved in the Chicago scene. Booking bands and playing shows at numerous venues and theaters will never be the same!!!
This isn’t going to do anything but take away from revenue and make Chicago a more cut-throat scene than it already is. If this ordinance passes…. My love for Chicago will be completely CRUSHED!!!
Chris DiDomenico
Audiowall Records
Simplistic Urge
1081. Vicky Walters | May 12, 2008 at 2:02 pm
I can’t believe that they are trying to stifle the amazing culture that has grown in Chicago. I for one think this will definitely make Chicago a not very exciting place to be.
1082. Rachel C. | May 12, 2008 at 2:02 pm
I live clear across the country, but am appalled by such a proposal. If Chicago adopts these sorts of measures, what effect will it eventually have upon the rest of the nation as well? As someone who regularly attends theatre productions and numerous live shows with small bands (local or out-of-area), I would be devastated to find my own local forms of entertainment essentially destroyed. I can only imagine what residents of Chicago and the Chicago-area are thinking at such an outrageous possibility.
If you limit the small bodies of art – theatre, musicians, artists of all kinds – how will anyone ever have the freedom to grow and expand? There’s more to art than just the mainstream and it’s an insult to the arts to suggest otherwise.
1083. Abby | May 12, 2008 at 2:02 pm
As a proponent of Flosstradamus in the Midwest…this must be stopped.
1084. Brandon Fox | May 12, 2008 at 2:02 pm
For a city that claims to be an international city that wants to host the Olympic Games this will be a terrible set back for the arts and culture of this city. Once again this city is trying to squeze every penny out of us and our nightlife to waste on projects that don’t work. The reason why people want to live in the city is because there are so many things to do and see. Why turn this city ito a dying old metropolis. Stop taxing the youth!
1085. S. Dee | May 12, 2008 at 2:02 pm
This ordinance is unfair! The independent music scene is world-renowned in Chicago; it’s a magnet for artistic talent. It’s an industry driven by creativity and artistic expression. We should be able to put on a show in public, and to see concerts, without going broke. It’s not a big money-making business, so these fees and complicated licensing procedures will cripple the industry. As a result this city will not be as fun! People will leave! DO NOT PASS!
1086. Chris Jones | May 12, 2008 at 2:03 pm
I will throw rocks at those people! This is crazy! Nice job shitty council!
1087. stephanie | May 12, 2008 at 2:03 pm
NO ORDINANCE!! if the man were here i’d stick it to him myself. don’t u have enough of our money?
1088. Andrew Stamm | May 12, 2008 at 2:03 pm
A horrible idea, please don’t pass this ordinance
1089. Whitehouse | May 12, 2008 at 2:03 pm
Please add our name to the list!
Whitehouse
1090. Adam Krier | May 12, 2008 at 2:03 pm
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. That proposal is absurd. Spreading the word.
1091. R Melfi | May 12, 2008 at 2:03 pm
This is just plain stupid! No culture – no tourism!
1092. Michelle | May 12, 2008 at 2:03 pm
I moved to Chicago for the unique culture and to grow musically. Small venues have cultivated artists like myself. In today’s world, music is one of the only forms of expression that still enlightens people. These venues and artists are barely surviving on their music and you want to take this away?
1093. Chicago Music | May 12, 2008 at 2:04 pm
I just sent a global email to both my music sites to come here and sign the petition so that should help a bit as well.
1094. Mandy Walsh | May 12, 2008 at 2:04 pm
For the love, please do not pass this ordinance.
1095. Leanne Raney | May 12, 2008 at 2:04 pm
Please don’t take away the best aristic dynamic in the country. People move here for this specific reason–to make their small artistic dreams a reality. And by passing this law, you are crushing that dream.
Please don’t let one bad apple affect a whole tree of beautiful ripe ones.
1096. hugo trevino | May 12, 2008 at 2:04 pm
don’t stop the music. Stop greedy bureaucracy in local government.
1097. E. Fierro | May 12, 2008 at 2:04 pm
Chicago is a wonderful city and it is the unique culture that create its soul. In passing this, Chicago would loose its identity as a creative city.
1098. Steffanie Gertz | May 12, 2008 at 2:04 pm
dont do this!
add my name to the list.
1099. Erik | May 12, 2008 at 2:04 pm
the clubs are already safe
the clubs are already smoke free
but the the city government is
as dangerous as ever.
we have too many condos, too many starbucks, too many cars, too many taxes, fines, fees, stickers, blue bags, recent college grads, booze, beer, fancy wine, parking tickets, surchages, cigarettes, food, and expensive brand name clothing for the city to make its money from.
please leave the music alone, we musicians can barely afford to live here. and its about all that’s left besides the air we breath.
1100. TRACIE ENNES | May 12, 2008 at 2:04 pm
Artists have a hard enough time in the midwest. I don’t understand how further restrictions will help Chicago in any way. If anything, more publicity and respect need to be given to the local artists and venues!
I strongly oppose this ordinance, please do not let it pass.
Thank you,
Tracie Ennes
1101. Jamie Toal | May 12, 2008 at 2:04 pm
C’mon Chicago. We’re smarter than this.
1102. Pete | May 12, 2008 at 2:04 pm
We will have to go underground more and have shows in basements and warehouses. Make our own money.
1103. Molly Martin | May 12, 2008 at 2:05 pm
If this is passed it will put a HUGE damper on Chicago’s thriving music scene. I can’t see how this would be beneficial at all, and it needs to be stopped!!
1104. Liz Bowles | May 12, 2008 at 2:05 pm
Chicago is my favorite city in the world and the reason for that is the amazing amount and variety of culture, music, theatre, and all the great things that would suffer if this ordinance goes into effect. Think of all the local Chicago bands who have grown into major national acts. Some of my favorite bands have come from Chicago’s music scene. With something for everyone, Chicago offers a culture unlike any other. I beg you. Don’t destroy that!
1105. Dave Brown | May 12, 2008 at 2:05 pm
If passed, the city will lose its pulse, and many of its residents as well. Objections must be heard.
1106. Paul Thomas | May 12, 2008 at 2:05 pm
Hopefully this was proposed out of lack of foresight of who/what it would affect (which is scary). I say hopefully because otherwise it was proposed out of a distaste for Chicago rich small-scale scene.
Please don’t pass this.
1107. Jonny | May 12, 2008 at 2:05 pm
This really seems like the opposite of a good idea.
1108. Dennis Frymire | May 12, 2008 at 2:05 pm
Please shoot this ordinance down. Please.
1109. Colleen Egan | May 12, 2008 at 2:06 pm
Chicago is a vibrant arts, music and theatre city and this ordinance will suffocate the smaller venues, independent community and finally Chicago’s reputation as a stauch supporter of the arts. As a member of the Chicago Arts Community it’s bad enough that buyers need to pay 10.25% tax on art as well as anything else we need to buy and now this ordinance targets the arts community. Not only does it hurt the arts community but Chicago residents, tourism and our city’s reputation. Also, the 2016 Olympics may come to Chicago- do we really want this issue to hinder our chances as a City- because it will.
CD Egan
1110. Rose Vasallo | May 12, 2008 at 2:06 pm
absolutely ridiculous and pointless. i have nothing more to say then that.
1111. Emilia Chico | May 12, 2008 at 2:06 pm
I am in strong opposition of this ordinance. The mayor and city officials will continue to work in conjunction with corporate interests to eliminate anything and everything that is independent, cultural and progressive. The arts will suffer through all of this.
1112. Brian Robinson | May 12, 2008 at 2:06 pm
Let’s just continue to make all of America one homogenius product. Chicago is great because of the individuality of our neighborhoods. Don’t let that go by the way side. None of us want to see concerts in cookie cutter venues such as the Hard Rock.
1113. Miles Benjamin | May 12, 2008 at 2:06 pm
Simply ridiculous. The possible impact of a bill like this is scary and just wrong. Anyone who would actually agree with this has obviously never been involved with the arts of Chicago.
We can’t let this happen.
1114. Addie Hurst | May 12, 2008 at 2:06 pm
There is an inherent contradiction in the life and culture of the city of Chicago itself and this ordinance. Variety and versatility are in the heart of the city. Please do not take away our choice to support local musicians and promoters. It is wrong.
1115. Lindsay Wipert | May 12, 2008 at 2:06 pm
The Chicago scene is ideal because of it’s local flavor and it’s dedication to offering as many things to do-big and small-as possible. Please don’t do this, it’s sick and wrong.
1116. Aaron Rodgers | May 12, 2008 at 2:06 pm
Chicago cannot afford to pass this ordinance. If Chicago is remain the cultural center of the Mid West, it necessary that new music and events are encouraged, not mired in licenses and paperwork. People under 21 must have the ability to create their own music and culture. Also, first time promoters should be discouraged by a $1000 license. Everyone will suffer if the only music booked and promoted is done so by only a few promoters with deep pockets.
1117. eli kahn | May 12, 2008 at 2:07 pm
As a former Chicagoan and current South Bend, IN resident, it saddens me to hear about this ordinance. Chicago remains the prime source of live self-promoted entertainment in the midwest (surprise, surprise…bad cover bands in smokey bars in the Bend don’t quite do the trick). As a musician, I find it even more devistating because Chicago is home to some of my favorite bands who are starting to break the larger scene (and started out with self-promotion). Imagine if bands like Pelican and Russian Circles weren’t able to play when they were starting out because of these ordinances. Now, imagine how many other bands wouldn’t be able to be discovered because of their lack of representation; the bedlam of potential bands would be snuffed out. Don’t let it happen. Please.
1118. Michele | May 12, 2008 at 2:07 pm
Chicago, to me, is one of the most amazing places to go and hear new local music. To take that away from us is ridiculous.
1119. Gina Ferenzi | May 12, 2008 at 2:07 pm
add my name.
1120. Chicago Music | May 12, 2008 at 2:07 pm
Thanks to all the Chicago Music Promotions Artists, Djays And Promoters for coming to sign this petition and thanks to all New Music Promote Artists and Djs for coming as well see you on my site soon.
1121. Mike Sciortino | May 12, 2008 at 2:07 pm
You’ve got to be freakin kiddin me…. I love the city for it’s artistic beauty and it’s many musical venues. Whether it be the metro, the double door or the theater. A lot of people go there just to go and have a fun time, by shutting them down what are you hoping to achieve?
1122. will chambers | May 12, 2008 at 2:07 pm
please do not put this through. arts and music is what makes chicago the grand place it is. without these things we will have a very dull city.
1123. Tracie Tomlinson | May 12, 2008 at 2:08 pm
This is absolutely ridiculous. When you start a promotions company, if you’re doing it for profit, you must register your business as an LLC or a company, what have you. Whichever form of organization you choose. You’re therefore legitimizing your business through going through this process in the first place and paying those fees to do business up front. Am I retarded, or is that not license enough?
These “lawmakers” need to learn how the industry works. When a promoter contacts a venue for a show, a contract is made that the promoter will comply with all laws and within the restrictions of said venue. THE SHOW IS COVERED BY THE VENUE’S INSURANCE BY DEFAULT. It is absolutely unnecessary to make the promoter purchase insurance when the venue’s insurance is already in effect. If something happens on the venue’s premises during said promoter’s show, the venue’s insurance will have to cover it regardless, so it’s completely unnecessary.
Instead of picking on the entertainment industry, maybe the lawmakers of Chicago should worry about the REAL issues. Revamp the projects. Help the homeless. Put money into the CTA. DON’T FIX SOMETHING THAT ISN’T BROKEN. You’re basing the ENTIRE entertainment industry on a few jackasses that don’t know what they’re doing. Their business will fail anyway because they don’t do things correctly. Don’t punish everyone else who is legit by your greedy money-wanting ways. Everyone here is trying to make a decent living. Let us keep our money and stimulate the economy by putting it back into home-based businesses and tourism so the economy can flourish once again, instead of it going back into the government to pay for unnecessary evils.
1124. Valerie | May 12, 2008 at 2:08 pm
This is completely insane. Make noise people-contact your alderman. Chicago has done some really stupid things from a cultural perspective in the past…remember how close we almost were to getting a Banana Republic in the heart of Wicker Park?
1125. Ed Ferrara | May 12, 2008 at 2:08 pm
This ordinance will ensure that the rich INDEPENDENT cultural heritage of Chicago — music, theatre, dance, etc. — will come to a screeching halt. I urge that this ordinance be tossed out as soon as possible.
1126. JS | May 12, 2008 at 2:08 pm
This ordinance will tie the hands of and ultimately shut down small theatre as we know it in Chicago.
1127. Elizabeth Hegelund | May 12, 2008 at 2:08 pm
How can the city be so callous and hinder the creativity of its citizens? I strongly oppose this ordinance.
“Above all, we are coming to understand that the arts incarnate the creativity of a free people. When the creative impulse cannot flourish, when it cannot freely select its methods and objects, when it is deprived of spontaneity, then society severs” – JFK
1128. George Sferra | May 12, 2008 at 2:08 pm
This ordinance is an affront to independent artists and performers trying to live and create in our great city. By stifling small time performers and promoters, the city council promoter’s ordinance will severely limit the vibrant, diverse and expressive cultural atmosphere of Chicago.
I strongly urge all council members who value the independent and vibrant cultural landscape of Chicago to oppose this unnecessary legislation.
Sincerely,
George Sferra,
Snuckafoo
1129. Frank K. | May 12, 2008 at 2:08 pm
The City of Chicago needs to learn how to “Create” a buck so they can stop “Stealing” it from the small business owners. Cook County is strongly in need of a TAXPAYER REVOLT ala L.A. circa 1978. NO to this ordinance!!!
1130. Kyle Parris | May 12, 2008 at 2:09 pm
As a comedian, this ordinance really riles me up.
If the owners of E2 had done their jobs properly, the tragedy wouldn’t have happened.
The E2 tragedy sucked! Don’t get me wrong about that. But think about the thousands of shows that have taken place during which NOBODY GOT KILLED! The owners of those clubs should’ve have to pay for the mistakes of the E2 idiots. Neither should the fans nor artists.
I live in Evanston, so I don’t have an alderman in Chicago. But please put my name on the list.
Kyle Parris
1131. Emily Vaughn | May 12, 2008 at 2:09 pm
Shocking that a Chicago area city council would be trying to jack up fees on the little people so they can pay for their own incompetence. What a joke.
1132. Mandie Cornelius | May 12, 2008 at 2:09 pm
BAD IDEA!
Please don’t pass this ordinance.
1133. John Lombardo | May 12, 2008 at 2:09 pm
This ordinance will cripple Chicago’s music scene.
1134. Pedro Castro | May 12, 2008 at 2:09 pm
The City’s theatre, comedy and music scene is great because there are small venues (with many tastes) everywhere. These artists make little to no money. We perform because we love it and we need opportunites to improve our craft.
Passing this ordinance will effectively reserve the opportunity to express musical and theatrical ideas to the rich and connected.
I sign this petition because I am a comedian from Chicago and, like everyone else, I deserve to be heard.
We should hold a protest rally.
1135. Heidi | May 12, 2008 at 2:10 pm
That is one of the things I LOVE about this city.Where will all these talented musicians play and how will they make a living?I really dislike the huge venues and live music,art and independent places…….. go hand in hand.
1136. luke | May 12, 2008 at 2:10 pm
i love the chicago underground music scene.
1137. JE | May 12, 2008 at 2:10 pm
Vote NO.
1138. Amanda Burkhead | May 12, 2008 at 2:11 pm
I think this is ridiculous. Smaller bands have it hard enough already.
1139. Anna | May 12, 2008 at 2:11 pm
Small venues are vital to Chicago’s music scene.Let’s save them!
1140. Louis Saunders | May 12, 2008 at 2:11 pm
This ordinance would greatly hinder Chicago’s vibrant music, comedy and culture. Let them know we care.
1141. Dan Sheridan | May 12, 2008 at 2:11 pm
Please please don’t pass this! Save Chicago’s music scene!
1142. Martin Klaudiosz | May 12, 2008 at 2:11 pm
Who wants this ordinance in place? It seems pretty obvious that the people involved with it don’t understand how serious a negative impact it would have on Chicago music and culture, and therefore cripple Chicago’s presence in music for the future.
Does this not mean anything?
1143. Gina Prendki | May 12, 2008 at 2:12 pm
This oridance would take away the heart and soul of Chicago. Peole live in Chicago so they can be part of a sub-culture of music and talent from their local communties that inspires them. This forced red tape and attempt to line government pockets should not come into the art arena. This would be a major infringement, and if passed just the first of many. Be wary, very wary about these type of activities!
1144. Ben Zepeda | May 12, 2008 at 2:12 pm
The creativity and culture that the city of Chicago posses makes it the amazing city that it is. The smaller venues and shows allow people to get their ideas and talent out in the open. It will be a shame if this is actually passed.
1145. Chip Aucoin | May 12, 2008 at 2:12 pm
This law would cripple one of the best features of Chicago entertainment – the hundreds of small acts available to Chicago’s public. To stop a few bad characters, the crafters of this law would prefer to just do away with any entertainment in Chicago but the few with big enough bank accounts. Furthermore, the wording of the bill is vague enough to allow for subjective application of whoever enforces it, which is a bad precedent to set.
Revisit this issue with an eye towards a more selective filter to allow Chicago’s unique entertainment culture to thrive, please.
1146. Jane Brody | May 12, 2008 at 2:13 pm
Do not pass this silly and inconsidered bill. Small arts venues are to best way to revive neighborhoods. This mistaken “tax” will shut down many small theatres and galleries.
They pay enough to their communities by encouraging new commerce
without asking much in return.
And Chicago’s varied arts’ scene is one of the most vibrant elements in the city. A civilization is known by its arts and we are one on the very best
1147. Susan Grimes | May 12, 2008 at 2:13 pm
politicians always sticking their damned noses in where they don’t belong. damned busy bodies
1148. Mikaela Siegel | May 12, 2008 at 2:13 pm
It’s hard enough to make a living as working artist. Please do not squash an artists right to perform for artistic fulfillment.
We artists don’t make a lot of money, but we do make some amazing art. Don’t take that from Chicago!!!
1149. Steve Morton | May 12, 2008 at 2:13 pm
Well, it’s obvious whose pocket the Chicago City Council is in. I guess their retirement fund is much more important than the people they supposedly represent. I can see a LOT of little venues suddenly springing up just outside the city limits, drawing the money away from the city, and good for them.
1150. Mike | May 12, 2008 at 2:14 pm
don’t tread on me!
Chicago is a hub of artistry, and people come here because of the allure of artistic freedom; not because we have tons of money to blow on the rest of the taxes and fees associated with living in Chicago. We are here because we love THE city and the culture within it.
Please don’t do this.
1151. Adam Pluth | May 12, 2008 at 2:14 pm
I guarantee that this would cause a lot of businesses and people to fail. In an economy like this do you really want this to happen? Also, what will be the draw to Chicago with the removal of rich cultural events? Please think of the consequences. I for one will move from Chicago if this happens as there will be nothing to do. Expect many people to be upset.
1152. david glossberg | May 12, 2008 at 2:14 pm
Please do NOT pass the promoter’s ordinance!
1153. Kevin Griffith | May 12, 2008 at 2:14 pm
I dont see this as being a good idea for those of you in chicago. If it happened in Detroit were we are, it would be even worse, our scene is much smaller.
1154. Finn Swingley | May 12, 2008 at 2:14 pm
Unbelievable. Yet another clearly nonsensical attempt by the City Council to insert its authority into every waking moment of every Chicagoans life. If this ordinance passes into law it certainly could spell an end to what is currently a very vibrant music and theater scene.
I am absolutely shocked that something as pointless and undefined as this “promoter’s ordinance” (which seems to be clearly leaning towards rewarding the largest venues and promoters at the expense of everyone else) would even be considered, much less be on the verge of passing as a law.
Let’s see some sense coming from Chicago government for once. Put the brakes on this ordinance, rethink it, rewrite it, put it forth to the music and arts community for input, whatever it takes to get a fair and realistic law. As it stands, this ordinance simply makes no sense.
1155. Annalyse LaPine | May 12, 2008 at 2:14 pm
absolutly ridiculous! Why would we want to kill such a huge part of our own community like that!?!?!
1156. heidi schreck | May 12, 2008 at 2:14 pm
this is unbelievable. i feel like more of my rights are being taken away.whats next????!!! Seems like the law makers are making it so hard for us promotors that we will just choose to stop or be forced to shut down. this is horrible and will directly effect my work and life.
1157. William Karnoscak | May 12, 2008 at 2:14 pm
This ordinance would also imperil not-for-profit venues like the Old Town School of Folk Music, etc.
These places already struggle to present independent and world music culture to our city. Adding this financial burden will ultimately strip our town of the great diversity of live music entertainment that is now (often barely) possible.
The shame of this is ironic because the City of Chicago themselves should have shut down the E2 when it was first noted as being out of compliance with city codes.
Please do not punish the small, indie venues for this oversight.
Respectfully submitted,
William Karnoscak
Ravenswood
1158. Nick | May 12, 2008 at 2:15 pm
I disapprove of this ordinance.
1159. nick broste | May 12, 2008 at 2:15 pm
passing this ordinance will destroy the performing arts in this city as we know it. every year thousands of people make their way to chicago to perform and contribute to the greatness of our city. where will they all go if 98% of the venues disappear as a result of these ridiculous regulations? please keep the arts alive in our city and vote no on wednesday. thanks.
1160. Nick Santiago | May 12, 2008 at 2:15 pm
As an underground artist and a young entrepreneur it is vital to our business to have the ability to freely inform others of our endeavors. I feel strongly that the ability to inform others be it by spoken word or by paper is a freedom that should not be removed from any citizen of the city of Chicago or from our Country. Please do not pass this ordinance, it makes me feel that as a musician I will have to find a new city to operate out of.
1161. Dustin Fillion | May 12, 2008 at 2:16 pm
This ordinance is rediculous and would severly impact the city and my bands negatively. Let alone all of the the musicians and actors who have only small shows as thier primary source of income. This ordinance cannot pass!!!!!!!!!!
1162. Will Andeer | May 12, 2008 at 2:16 pm
This ordinance clearly severs no purpose other than taking money from those who have the balls to pursue there talents as they help business by inspiring people in the area or out of town to be there , That helps gas stations ( 4$ a gallon) restaurants, local shops and many others
So not only are you stopping local artist from getting ahead your hurting everything around it. your better off not passing this issue and looking around the city for someone who has a brain. This will save time for everybody when it come to things such as these.
1163. Sarai Shacklett | May 12, 2008 at 2:16 pm
A ridiculous proposition, just say no.
1164. Lauren | May 12, 2008 at 2:16 pm
Chicago’s independent music (and theater) scene is one of the things that makes the city’s culture so rich. It provides a place for both the people who cant afford big $50+ ticket shows, and for the performers who work in a small circuit. Culture is about a variety of expression. If you take away this independence and this creativity for culture, if you cannot let the music continue to live and breathe as it does now, you take away one of the reasons so many people love Chicago.
1165. Chris Gombas | May 12, 2008 at 2:16 pm
I do not support this ordinance.
1166. Regina Ramos | May 12, 2008 at 2:16 pm
Yes, add my name to the list! Chicago has the greatest concert experiences, which is why I live here. This ordinance purely sucks and limits our freedom of expression as well as for the livelihood for the performers, musicians, and promoters. It would be completely selfish to “fix” the “problem” when clearly there isn’t one. I think the city should try to get the guns off the streets than messing with the music scene first…
1167. kyne aldridge | May 12, 2008 at 2:17 pm
This is a terrible idea by the city council
1168. Joe Daley | May 12, 2008 at 2:17 pm
What is the purpose of this ordinance? I can see no practical use for this ordinance besides city government, and insurance companies reaching even further into citizen’s pockets. For shame! Yes, let’s tax and restrict small independent promoters and bands until there’s nothing left to see on a Saturday night but Disney on Ice sponsored by US Cellular.
A thought for the City Counsel: How about requiring a $500.00 license for an individual who comes up with a creative idea? I don’t mean $500.00 a year license. I mean a license for every new creative idea any individual comes up, within the city limits. (Ooops, I think I just cost myself $500) This way, we can insure a safe community where normal citizens don’t have any original or “unhealthy” thoughts. We can all be completely robotic and soulless together.
1169. Dianne Harrop | May 12, 2008 at 2:17 pm
Silliness. This kills the small venue and supports the big business theatres. Our local artists deserve better.
1170. Charles Roder | May 12, 2008 at 2:17 pm
This ordinance is just plain crazy! Please do not let this pass!!!!
1171. Dave Donahue | May 12, 2008 at 2:17 pm
Add my name to the list. The rocking should never be stopped.
1172. Kristin Bruni | May 12, 2008 at 2:17 pm
what an abomination! this is a major city! where are musicians going to be heard if this ordinance is passed.
political greed is running rampant and it must stop!
1173. Erin Eberle | May 12, 2008 at 2:17 pm
This is the most ridiculous law I’ve ever heard of. Promoters have nothing to do with venues being over capacity. That has to do with the venue. It would be horrible if this ordinance gets passed!
1174. Chris Kranz | May 12, 2008 at 2:18 pm
Please vote NO. Where will the city theater and music scene go? Where will the uniquness of Chicago go? Does the city care about its citizens??
1175. Lydia Huckeba | May 12, 2008 at 2:18 pm
Please keep Chicago, well Chicago. It is such an artistic city from public art to concerts and performances, and to take any of that away would be a shame. Please support, not hinder, the arts.
1176. David Salas | May 12, 2008 at 2:18 pm
This is very ridiculous!! I cannot believe my eyes. Chicago’s very known for its live music and dance. I always look forward to seeing these types of live acts. Without them are we really a culturally enriched city. I doubt it! Please do not sign this bill!!!! I want to be proud of the city I live in.
1177. patrick heer | May 12, 2008 at 2:18 pm
this is proposal is idiotic and absurd, how could you even think of doing this to a city with such a great scene? ridiculous, we need to stop this from becoming law
1178. Angela McMahon | May 12, 2008 at 2:18 pm
Hope my support helps the cause.
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1180. Karen Shields | May 12, 2008 at 2:18 pm
Rather than celebrating the arts in Chicago this ordinance seems intent on dooming…and making a dime while doing so. Please do NOT pass this ordinance.
1181. Mashit | May 12, 2008 at 2:19 pm
Entire genres of music would not exist if it weren’t for “underground” music scenes; most notably in this case Chicago-blues and house music. Lets take the later for example. From the Wikipedia entry on house music:
“House music was developed in the houses, garages and clubs of Chicago and Detroit, and it was produced for local club-goers in the “underground” club scenes, rather than for widespread commercial release. As a result, the recordings were much more conceptual, longer than the music usually played on commercial radio.”
This “underground” music went on to have a gigantic influence on dance music all over the world which is one reason why Chicago is known as an important cultural center. The underground clubs like the Ware(house) where this music developed would never have survived a draconian law like this. This is a deep disappointment, Chicago!
1182. Ashten Klappa-Cales | May 12, 2008 at 2:19 pm
Terrible idea, do not let this pass.
1183. Bryant_Autrey | May 12, 2008 at 2:19 pm
I feel that music worldwide is like the Voltron effect and we come together as a whole to keep the dance movement progressing. By taking away one important part of it can drastically effect music in other parts of the world so we need to come together to stop things like this from happening.
In the 15 + years that I have been going out to specialized events and so forth, it has changed my attitude towards life and how I percieve the world in general. I think that greed and politics have corrupted our scene on a large scale and it is very saddening. People as a whole are blind and have yet to realize the power that music has to bring nations together no matter what your race, skin color or belief. We’re all in this for the same reason. To unite and bring peace worldwide.
1184. Emily | May 12, 2008 at 2:19 pm
Music is a form of self expression and freedom. It has always been hard for artists to survive, and underground, smaller artists live off of going venue to venue playing small crowds hoping to eventually fill up a place with tons of people.
The past few years especially, music has been such a hard scene to live in. Everything is expensive and licenses are required to do anything. Venues are already required to have their own business licenses, security, etc. There is no reason for the promoter’s ordinance besides making the city more money. Chicago is, or, used to be a huge music area where honest musicians could play their instruments and make people happy with their music. Let’s keep it that way.
1185. Mary B Dietrick | May 12, 2008 at 2:19 pm
This is such a bad idea! Please don’t approve it!
1186. Deanna Mandarino | May 12, 2008 at 2:19 pm
Making a living in arts and entertainment is difficult enough without having to submit to such strict and financially burdening regulations. Please do not pass this legislation.
1187. Elizabeth Adamczyk | May 12, 2008 at 2:20 pm
I hope our Chicago officials treasure and value the smaller theater and vote accordingly.
1188. Nick Liberatore | May 12, 2008 at 2:20 pm
I oppose this as such an ordinance would destroy a thriving and vital part of what is truly an important aspect of Chicago’s music and culture – the independent artists, promoters and venues that truly stand to the “for the people, by the people” attitude.
1189. Patrick | May 12, 2008 at 2:20 pm
This is simply greed, there is no possible reason for it other than that. Come on councilmen, show that you care about anything other than the giant dollar signs in your eyes.
1190. Jarrett Gable | May 12, 2008 at 2:20 pm
Please don’t pass this ordinance. Thank you.
Chicago Resident,
Jarrett Gable
1191. Bud Johnson | May 12, 2008 at 2:20 pm
If this ordinance is supposed to generate revenue, it won’t. In fact it will have the exact opposite effect. If you ask a tourist what comes to mind when they think of Chicago, it’s three things. Pizza, Jazz/blues, and Tommy guns. Do Chicago’s revenue a favor. Focus on Tommy guns. After 20 years of trying, we’re almost known for theatre. Don’t kill the hands that feed us!
1192. Scott Whitehair | May 12, 2008 at 2:20 pm
This sounds too ridiculous to be true. We don’t need your protection, council. Drop this ordinance before you embarrass yourselves and punish our city.
1193. Ben Scott | May 12, 2008 at 2:21 pm
this is an absurd ordinance that does not seem likely to pass. I would say a solid 90%(minimum) of chicago’s more(or less) well known independent bands got their start through( and if they are good, still play) DIY show spaces. Hope this doesn’t pass.
1194. Leo A. Flores | May 12, 2008 at 2:21 pm
Please do not pass this ordinance. Chicago already has a hard enough time competing with LA and NY when it come to supporting artists and creating entertainment. This would basically kill Chicago’s emerging and thriving music scene.
1195. Rich Reillo | May 12, 2008 at 2:21 pm
This is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard! Put my name down on this list!
1196. Julianna Arquilla | May 12, 2008 at 2:21 pm
The small venues are what make Chicago. That is why I love living here being exposed to small bands, new music, comedy, theater etc. That is what makes Chicago so unique you can see almost anything anywhere any night.
Passing this ordinance as many have said before me would make this almost impossible to still happen.
1197. Amity | May 12, 2008 at 2:21 pm
NO WAY IN HELL!!! EVER!!
1198. Elizabeth Janicek | May 12, 2008 at 2:21 pm
I’m within equal driving distance of Chicago and several smaller cities. Yet I come to Chicago specifically for the diversity of smaller music and theater events. I also visit restaurants, use public transportation and stay in hotels. While Chicago’s size makes it more of a hassle than other cities, it has always been worth the trip.
If the City fails to work with its own musical organizations to develop a policy that is fair and effective, the attractions that draw me and many others to Chicago will suffer. I will be more likely to visit those other, smaller cities that are easier to get to. If the arts scene suffers, the city will suffer: both internally affecting your own citizens and organizations, and externally impacting the decisions of potential regular visitors.
1199. Abraham Pons | May 12, 2008 at 2:22 pm
SALVEMOS A CHCAGO DE LA NO CULTURA
1200. Shaina | May 12, 2008 at 2:22 pm
I can’t even begin to understand why anyone would want this ordinance passed. Well, maybe those who are getting the money from it. Money has never been a word associated with theater. How can they think they’ll get away this?
1201. Danielle O'Farrell | May 12, 2008 at 2:23 pm
I am strongly opposed to this ordinance…
1202. Tony Mundaca | May 12, 2008 at 2:23 pm
As Being a passionate and driven Music artist and performer from Chicago, it would only make me think twice about staying here in Chicago. Please stop the madness!!!! Please Vote NO!!!!
Grace & Peace
1203. Benjamin Lewis | May 12, 2008 at 2:23 pm
I’ve already written my Alderman… I hope he listens.
1204. Alina | May 12, 2008 at 2:23 pm
Heck NO! Proposal = BAD idea…
waste the time and energy on far more important issues please.
1205. Dustin White | May 12, 2008 at 2:23 pm
No!
1206. Chris Bellew | May 12, 2008 at 2:23 pm
This ordinance is ridiculous! Chicago has churned out some amazing underground bands in the last few decades and this will surely do away with that in the future, which would be a complete travesty.
1207. Sarah | May 12, 2008 at 2:23 pm
I can’t imagine how anyone would think this is okay.
I do not approve whatsoever and am very disappointed.
1208. Jordan Benik | May 12, 2008 at 2:24 pm
This is so totes ridiculous! I’m against this ordinance for sure.
1209. Amy Sumpter | May 12, 2008 at 2:24 pm
Stop IT!!! This is going way to far! Don’t take away ART from this amazing city. for everyone who makes a mistake and people are hurt, thousands are doing it right. don’t pass this crazyness!
1210. Nate Euhus | May 12, 2008 at 2:24 pm
In the months since the last time City Hall tried to push this thing through (until big-timers like United Center and All-State Arena voiced their opposition), has their been any consultation with Chicago’s performing community? Perhaps there has been and I am unaware, but in any case this ordinance is completely unfounded and even repressive. Surely a better solution can be found for whatever problem City Council is trying to address here.
1211. Graham Rosby | May 12, 2008 at 2:24 pm
Come on, guys. Don’t be ridiculous.
1212. Steve Gonzalez | May 12, 2008 at 2:24 pm
This “law” and I use the term loosely, is a piece of crap straight out of the kitty litter box. You crooked freemason politicians will do ANYTHING to get more money, even if it means infringing on our rights and spoiling everyone else’s fun. You people claim to be so educated, yet some of your your idiotic laws are questionable. Get a life. There’s the much bigger problem of drugs and gangs and violent crimes, and you’re worried about music? Wow, I had no idea the New World Order was beginning in Chicago….
1213. Jack Munroe | May 12, 2008 at 2:24 pm
Just silence our voices in the land of the free
1214. Steve Earle | May 12, 2008 at 2:24 pm
This is right off the Chicago Tourism website:
“What better way to end your day than taking in one of the city’s most entertaining hot spots. Chicago will provide you with a night of live music performances, cozy lounges, comedy shows, piano bars and much more. Whatever your entertainment needs are, Chicago delivers. Whether you dance the night away at a popular club or laugh out loud at a hilarious comedy show, Chicago provides the ultimate entertainment experience!
The only Blues Capital of the World, Chicago has no shortage of live entertainment after dark. Besides the Blues, music styles as diverse as Jazz, Gospel and House music have been entertaining guests for decades and continue to thrive to this day. ”
Now how do they expect to continue to say this after they shut everything down that isn’t big enough or rich enough to pay for their ridiculous licenses, etc.?
City Council…wake up and smell the coffee!!!! You can’t promote the city for the very thing you are trying to kill off, or didn’t you think about that?
1215. David Maher | May 12, 2008 at 2:24 pm
Please vote no.
1216. Rob Crowe | May 12, 2008 at 2:24 pm
Stop the madness, don’t pass this ordinance.
1217. Alexis Mondragon | May 12, 2008 at 2:24 pm
Please do NOT pass this oridinance. It will hinder the evolution of entertainment and stop so many potentially influential people from getting their work out into the world.
1218. LINDA MENSCH | May 12, 2008 at 2:24 pm
The ordinance, as written should be rejected as overbroad. The idea of prohibiting loud, intrusive, unregulated events in unsafe facilities is a good one, but this ordinance undermines Chicago’s ability to develop and expose new talent at venues that already have business licenses.
The Ordinance needs to exclude existing and future venues that safely expose talent on a regular basis, without burdening these businesses with onerous license requirements.
1219. Steven | May 12, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Metal, hardcore, and punk have thrived upon the basement show, the alley show, the basement of a bar show, without these so many bands, let alone scenes as a whole, would not have made it. This law must not pass unless we are willing to let the masses control out music scene here in Chicago
1220. Adrian DiGiovanni | May 12, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Unacceptable. WHY would you want to do this? I don’t…I mean…what?! To the powers that be: “We, the community, do not want this!”
1221. Danielle Cook | May 12, 2008 at 2:25 pm
This ordinance is ridiculous!
1222. Maureen Miller | May 12, 2008 at 2:25 pm
I do not support this ordinance, the small music and theater venues are the foundation of the Chicago arts community.
1223. Dana Tretta | May 12, 2008 at 2:25 pm
100% AGAINST this ordinance!
1224. Aylon Samouha | May 12, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Please do not pass this ordinance. As a musician in Chicago who often boasts to people worldwide that Chicago has the best music scene in the world, I shudder to think of losing the lynchpin that holds this cultural mecca together: small venues. I was so proud of this city for taking on the loopatapia event…that is TRUE Chicago style. Let’s keep the dream alive!
1225. Andy David | May 12, 2008 at 2:26 pm
There are more effective ways to see to “safety” of public events. This ordinance is suffocating to much of the cultural lifeblood of the city and should NOT be passed.
1226. Michael Knish | May 12, 2008 at 2:26 pm
Put plainly, this is going to kill the local music scene. Chicago is a unique city that’s huge, but allows smaller, independent artists room to breathe and develop. I’m an artist about to graduate and will not be moving to Chicago if this law is passed, and I’m sure I’m not the only one.
1227. Jim Green | May 12, 2008 at 2:26 pm
If this thing goes through… me and 1,000s of other musicians will not be able to play in Chicago again… we’ll stick to the suburbs and thats where our fans will spend their money. How is this good for Chicago?
1228. Rich | May 12, 2008 at 2:26 pm
This is unbelievable! Things like this make it hard to be proud of Chicago. It seems like another excuse to waste public funds! Government is supposed to work for the people. How does this help?
1229. Bridget Hansen | May 12, 2008 at 2:27 pm
I am opposed to this ordinance. Please listen to the concert-goers and music/art lovers of Chicago and do not pass this!
1230. TOM | May 12, 2008 at 2:27 pm
As a musician in Chicago i think this is terrible. Are they trying to stop people from expressing themselves. Why would you want to take creativity away from so many people?
1231. Jo Collura | May 12, 2008 at 2:27 pm
Chicago! Please don’t smash our dreams to smithereens! I moved to this beautiful city from New York to pursue my musical career. I love living and working here, and being a part of the unique culture that makes Chicago so great. Many of us Chicagoan musicians are blue collar, working day jobs to take care of necessities, but are living for the art. The diversity of independent music and art that is currently thriving in this city is too important to just eliminate. Stop the Promoter’s Ordinance!
1232. Lucy Carr | May 12, 2008 at 2:27 pm
regional theatre started in chicago. it started with the tiny storefront theatres like steppenwolf which started in a church basement and has since become one of the most prominant theatres in the country. storefront theatre is every actor gets there start there needs to be people out there to point at society to change the world. chicago is known for its theatre community. we have over 200 theatre companies. most of whom make little to no money and do it for the love of theatre. don not take away art.
1233. Abby Rowold | May 12, 2008 at 2:27 pm
NO TO THE PROMOTER’S ORDINANCE!!
1234. Ryan Zareczny | May 12, 2008 at 2:28 pm
This ordinance is completely rediculous, Chicago is a cenrtal hub for creativity in the Midwest, to put any further limitations on the artists who contribute there creativity and culture to the city is untollerable, not only do Chicago artists bring beauty and culture to there contibutions are like framework for business,with the new restrictions not only will Chicago artist be hurt, but the businesses that host these events will also be affected, which will in turn effect the cummunity financially as a whole. I am firmly against the new ordinance
-Ryan Zareczny
1235. Marsha Geib | May 12, 2008 at 2:28 pm
Please do not punish the small business owner. We have enough mega-corporations eating up small companies and spitting out employees for the good of the bottom line. The national government has already reduced NEA contributions so that the only art we see or hear is homogenized.
1236. mike p | May 12, 2008 at 2:29 pm
That would be completely retarded if they tried to go through with that ordinance. Everyone knows that Chicago relies on tourism as part of it’s revenue. Taste of Chicago and Blues Festival always have tons of great music playing there. not to mention all of the people who migrate towards chicago just for the amazing music playing there.
They would clearly lose more money than gained by going through with it.
1237. Matt Yeates | May 12, 2008 at 2:29 pm
This is ridiculous. Chicago is one of the greatest cities in the world in regards to its rich culture and art. I just don’t understand why someone would want to smother this amazing community.
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1239. Paul B | May 12, 2008 at 2:29 pm
This proposed ordinance is a gross overreaction. Unlike lawmakers who can make a living from pure bureaucracy, the rest of us have to make a living some other way. Stop building obstacles to everyone else’s “pursuit of happiness”.
1240. Cal Bailey | May 12, 2008 at 2:29 pm
This is unjust. How can you stiffel the creativity of artist (of any kind) who cannot afford these conditions. You are not only putting an end to a PUBLIC source of entertainment, but also to the dreams of several young students who hope to one day be the next Travis Barker or The Next Christina Ricci. I highly urge that this be reconsidered and overturned at all cost.
1241. Brandon Wilhelm | May 12, 2008 at 2:29 pm
Ridiculous. This is one more way for the city to bleed the little guy dry while letting corruption run rampant. Making it impossible for creativity to survive is only going to hurt the city even more. Let’s solve the real problem with the city’s money issue, not stifle the creativity Chicago is known for.
1242. Heather Kryszak | May 12, 2008 at 2:29 pm
This is completely absurd. I strongly disagree with and appose this ordinance. Safety is important, but requiring funds and a finger print is not the best way to go about it.
1243. Stacy | May 12, 2008 at 2:30 pm
I am against this ordinance, vote no
1244. Jeff Evans | May 12, 2008 at 2:30 pm
This ordinance is about the worst idea I’ve ever heard.
1245. Mary Lamphere | May 12, 2008 at 2:30 pm
This is CRAZY. I don’t get it… what’s the point? What do they hope to accomplish? We cannot let this happen.
1246. Craig Berman | May 12, 2008 at 2:30 pm
Do not allow this ordinance to pass! As our mainstream media culture slowly creeps towards corporate sameness and the lowest common denominator, small arts organizations and performances celebrate the diversity of creativity that still flourishes at a grassroots level. Don’t stamp out the little guy!
1247. Simon A. Smith | May 12, 2008 at 2:30 pm
You’re joking, right? If I only wanted to see a bunch of corporate garbage on obnoxiously large and tacky stages, I’d turn on my TV and stay off the streets of Chicago entirely. You’ll ruin this city. I don’t think that’s an exaggeration at all. Warning: you have no idea what you are doing. Abort mission now and we’ll all try to forget you were stupid enough to suggest it in the first place. Deal?
1248. Jordan Baskin | May 12, 2008 at 2:30 pm
This would be some terrible legislation.
1249. Nicole | May 12, 2008 at 2:30 pm
I’m not really even in the Chicago music and theatre scene but I know that both are vital for our city and the people of Chicago. How many careers have been launched out of Chicago? Too many to count I’m sure. With no support for smaller venues from the city of Chicago, in the long run, the city itself will suffer. Sorry to say this is bigger than they can imagine. It needs to be seen that the scene will always remain, with or without their permission.
1250. Tony Lentino | May 12, 2008 at 2:30 pm
This is my career of choice, why mess it up for anyone that’s not Jam or Live nation?
1251. Alison Fernandez | May 12, 2008 at 2:31 pm
City Council should vote against this ordinance .
1252. Marge Tiritilli | May 12, 2008 at 2:31 pm
NO TO THE PROMOTER’S ORDINANCE!!
1253. Brian Lagerstrom | May 12, 2008 at 2:31 pm
Why would the city do such a thing to stifle art? Do they charge galleries 500 dollars to show art?
1254. Veronica Murtagh | May 12, 2008 at 2:33 pm
I moved to Chicago in 2002 after graduating college in Virginia. Alone in a new city with no friends or family, I found a sense of belonging in the clubs, concerts and art shows of the city. It brought me out of my shell and connected me professionally and personally to my new city.
Six years later I find myself promoting and managing nightlife events. I co-manage the successful Smash&Crunch parties which have debuted several foreign artists in their first United States. gigs. With a day job in advertising, I have made use of my professional design background to link up with and assist other promoters around the city to revamp their images and handle their online promotion.
Recently I launched a music blog, . My writing team is composed of passionate individuals I have met through my endeavors and years in Chicago.
In no other city could such a tightly knit network exist as the one we have built in Chicago. We cross-promote and attend each others events. We are family built on music, nightlife, love and passion. Please do not take away our ability to welcome that next shy Chicago newcomer, unsure of herself, looking for friends and a place to belong.
It is more than an event and money to us. It is how we define ourselves, our identity and our family.
Sincerely,
Veronica L. Murtagh
| Owner
| Co-Manager
1255. Ari Bendersky | May 12, 2008 at 2:33 pm
As the editor of UR Chicago magazine, I am shocked the city would put its thriving music and arts scene on the chopping block like this. Please stop this ridiculous law from passing — it will only serve to kill live music in the city.
1256. Majel Cuza | May 12, 2008 at 2:33 pm
I strongly oppose this ridiculous ordinance.
1257. Jose Ramos | May 12, 2008 at 2:33 pm
Are you serious?
Live and let LIVE!!
1258. Michelle Syens | May 12, 2008 at 2:33 pm
The proposition of this ordinance is horrifying. Small venues are the soul of our city.
1259. Eli Hildreth | May 12, 2008 at 2:34 pm
I can hardly believe that an idea this horrible is actually real! Why would Chicago do such a thing? Small venues would be losing a lot of business, many promoters would not be able to get the license, and Chicago would lose a LOT of interesting culture! All around, this is a bad, bad, BAD idea. Please don’t let it happen!
1260. Robert Chambers | May 12, 2008 at 2:34 pm
This will destroy the culture of the city. It will harm the economy gravely. It will push small time performance underground and make it less safe.
1261. Brendan | May 12, 2008 at 2:34 pm
Don’t do it, Chicago.
I want to live!
1262. Traci Weingardt | May 12, 2008 at 2:34 pm
I am TOTALLY against this ordinance. Please DO NOT let this happen. I just sent my alderman an email. I hope he gets it.
1263. Amy Lynn | May 12, 2008 at 2:34 pm
Chicago is a city Known for their entertainment and music. This is an ordinance that will ruin the Chicago entertainment that actually is affordable. This is ridicoulous.
1264. Tim | May 12, 2008 at 2:35 pm
what a bunch of fools. ridiculous.
1265. Adam Drakos | May 12, 2008 at 2:35 pm
This is defiantly ridiculous. I live in northwest Indiana, and a lot of shows i go to happen in Chicago. This has to be a violation of our freedoms.
-Adam
1266. sandra palencia | May 12, 2008 at 2:35 pm
I VOTE NO TO THE PROMOTER’S ORDINANCE!!!
1267. Andy Vent | May 12, 2008 at 2:35 pm
Lawmakers need to understand the necessity of underground culture, especially dealing with music. Don’t make it even harder for starving and struggling artists to be heard.
Don’t make the art of art…even harder than it already is.
1268. Matt W | May 12, 2008 at 2:35 pm
if this law is passed it will kill Chicago’s cultural scene which is a huge part of what makes the city great. Chicago’s music and theatre the scene is famous nationwide AS IT IS. I can’t believe this is even being considered. Please put a stop to this.
1269. Nicole Muffitt | May 12, 2008 at 2:36 pm
Passing this ordinance would cripple Chicago’s music scene. Small venues turn concerts into magical little dream worlds! Not to mention that The Metro = love. They CAN’T pass this!
1270. Nicole C | May 12, 2008 at 2:37 pm
This city is backwards. This ordinance WILL NOT WORK. Cops can show up, try and enforce things, but there will always be underground music shows in Chicago. I don’t see the point in making things more difficult for people who don’t have much to begin with.
PLEASE FIND ANOTHER WAY TO PROCURE MONEY FOR THE CORRUPT, LOPSIDED, ILLOGICAL BUDGET.
and FUCK the OLYMPICS.
1271. Erika | May 12, 2008 at 2:37 pm
Why is the world ending?
Please, Council members, don’t kill our city.
1272. Nicole C | May 12, 2008 at 2:37 pm
FUCK THE OLYMPICS
1273. JAMES COTA | May 12, 2008 at 2:37 pm
This will put a stranglehold of the foundation of Chicago. Music is a huge part of Chicago history and to restrict the promotors from helping spread this culture is RIDICULOUS. The city council needs to shift the focus from PROFITS to PEOPLE.
1274. Katie M. | May 12, 2008 at 2:37 pm
Seems like there needs to be an addendum allowing small, safe promoters to keep up their important work without having to pay such hefty costs…
1275. Brian McKeown | May 12, 2008 at 2:38 pm
What an embarassment for the city of Chicago it will be when local blues and jazz musicians can no longer play at clubs like Kingston Mines and the Green Mill! This is a ridiculous notion! Do not vote for this measure
1276. Amy Austin | May 12, 2008 at 2:38 pm
As a publicist this not only hurts the music and arts community but is an insult. I have a college degree and have been the member of public relations associations, in addition to having a resume with years of experience. There is no practical reason why the city should be charging ME to do my job! This is just another stingy way for the city to make money — Chicago corruption at its best. They take something we are passionate about and find a way to make money off of it for themselves. It’s all about the Benjamins.
1277. Matthew Suhar / Tantrum Mgmt & Touring | May 12, 2008 at 2:38 pm
Whoever thinks this is a good idea should NOT be allowed to live in Chicago for just thinking this is up.
1278. David Seuc | May 12, 2008 at 2:38 pm
This would be the most idiotic legislation ever! Do we need more reason for artists to leave Chicago! I moved here because of the music, if you take that away you take away my CHICAGO! No to PROMOTERS ORDINANCE!
1279. Tracy Kuhn | May 12, 2008 at 2:38 pm
This law is absolutely ridiculous! Local music is a HUGE part of Chicago. It has brought so many people together. If it weren’t for places such as Double Door and the Beat Kitchen, I wouldn’t have some of the most wonderful friends in the world!
1280. DANNY | May 12, 2008 at 2:38 pm
Do not eliminate the music community from performing in Chicago!!!!
1281. Dawud Jalil | May 12, 2008 at 2:38 pm
I am totally opposed to this ordinance. This totally out prices the smaller promoters and will basically ensure that only major events take place. Chicago has a very diverse, thriving culture. This will only suffocate it’s growth.
1282. Kyle Beachy | May 12, 2008 at 2:38 pm
Absolutely not. An outrageous ordinance, an outrageous attempt to slip through the cracks of public discourse, and an outrageous and bland future for the city if it passes.
Please, stop.
kb
1283. Brent Walker | May 12, 2008 at 2:39 pm
You have got to be kidding me! This ordinance will have such far reaching NEGATIVE effects on the culture and commerce of this great city’s music, theatre, and arts community. Please do not pass this ordinance!
1284. Randy Smith | May 12, 2008 at 2:39 pm
Wow the city of Chicago is once again putting its hands where it has no bussiness.Music in Chicago is already stressed by the lack of good and fair paying venues.This move by the city is just goofy.Hey how about fixing things like public transit and the vast number of problems Chicago has and let music and arts live and grow in Chicago.These are the things that bring people to the city dont kill that.
1285. Christopher Donaldson | May 12, 2008 at 2:39 pm
This will not only affect the city’s music scene, but also it’s comedy scene. Without small venues, new acts will have no place to go. Please put a halt to this insanity.
1286. Kelly Yacono | May 12, 2008 at 2:39 pm
This ordinance is utterly ridiculous. It’s just another way to stifle the “little guy” who cares more about creating art rather than making millions of dollars. Why should WE have to suffer? A big fat NO to this ordinance!
1287. Jon Dick | May 12, 2008 at 2:39 pm
I believe that this ordinance will greatly harm the thriving Chicago fringe theater and comedy scene. Chicago is currently considered a destination by many young actors due to the opportunity provided by this city’s cultual scene. This ordinance will likely kill this opportunity and ruin the city’s artistic future.
1288. Audarshia Townsend | May 12, 2008 at 2:39 pm
This blows. I’m sure members of the City Council have seen their share of live music, theater, nightlife, visual arts, etc. This didn’t just come out of nowhere, and stifling art and culture in Chicago is not only going to turn back the clock but discourage others from coming to our fine city.
As a huge proponent of the arts community–and a lifelong Chicagoan–I find this a slap in face. Whre’s the humanity?!
1289. Kyle Shoemaker | May 12, 2008 at 2:40 pm
This attempt at regulation by the city is a terrible mistake that would backfire with long-term negative affects on the city. As a music lover I would be very angry to see such a law pass, but as a resident of the city I would be furious at such anti-progressive legislation that would have a dramatic affect on the culture of this city.
1290. Lizz Kannenberg | May 12, 2008 at 2:40 pm
Insanity. Blogged about it at http://nodessertforyou.com/
1291. Lauren Adermann | May 12, 2008 at 2:40 pm
Please vote in opposition to this unnecessary ordinance. In a time of our plummeting economy and low morale, this is one of the worst things that could happen to the music community.
Current regulation of PPA licenses and safety and security guidelines are sufficient, requiring the venues themselves to carry the proper coverage. In effect, it’s double taxation. The ordinance also unfairly singles out small venues and venues without fixed seating.
The goal for any additional regulation should be enforcement of current laws and punishment of those who do not obey them, not increased burdens on existing businesses. Additionally,
the harm this would cause to the nation-wide music community would be catastrophic. The small promoters, bands, venues and theaters that would lose money and eventually be forced out of business by the ordinance are the people/businesses that help foster the careers of so many artists that we know and love today.
VOTE NO TO THE PROMOTER’S ORDINANCE!
1292. Blooms | May 12, 2008 at 2:40 pm
NO!!!!!! We need to support our local artists/musicians! If they didn’t have the potato’s to live the life we dream about (not to mention usually in poverty), who would? We can’t all lean back on Daddy’s pocketbook. This is another band-aid placated approach to address problems (i.e., lining the governments pockets). I am not a musician for a living but I do get out and play on occasion adn I can say that I am astounded that anyone would think this idea is OK, if not revolting!
1293. Ryan Ensley | May 12, 2008 at 2:40 pm
I, personally have been in several bands throughout the chicago area and am involved in setting up shows, and getting DIY music out to people who love it. If this bill is passed it would have a tremendously negative impact on something that is there for people who love music. This bill will stifle creativity, community, and passion.
STOP THIS!
1294. Kristin Pearl | May 12, 2008 at 2:41 pm
This ordinance will change the face of the Chicago music culture. I don’t come to chicago to listen to the bands in person, but I hear about underground artists from my friends who do. The music scene in Chicago right now is broader than you could imagine and Chicago is known for it’s unique and creative music culture. The promoter’s ordinance is a mistake and it’s potential affect should be further researched before passed.
1295. Lauren Hallman | May 12, 2008 at 2:41 pm
This is absolutely ridiculous. Chicago is a wonderful city and the artists here have so much to offer, and doing something like this would undoubtedly have an extremely negative effect on the positive ways that the city has been growing and developing over the years.
1296. Keith | May 12, 2008 at 2:41 pm
Completely ridiculous. It is hard enough for small time promotors to even turn a profit. Putting a law into effect completely kills anyone trying to turn a passion for music into a job. Don’t destroy our hopes.
1297. robert | May 12, 2008 at 2:41 pm
Free country ma a.., laws laws and laws.
1298. Tracy Pilarczyk | May 12, 2008 at 2:41 pm
As someone who is a huge fan of music in general, and who goes to hear music mainly at smaller venues, I have to say this is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard. I’m giving a big fat NO to this ordinance.
1299. Megan Wickersham | May 12, 2008 at 2:42 pm
I vote No! Absolutely not! Do not let this happen by any means!!
Save the Music!!!!
1300. Michael Fox | May 12, 2008 at 2:42 pm
Please don’t take some of the most beautiful and exciting elements out of Chicago – it’s what makes the city a great place to live in.
1301. Jude Fischer | May 12, 2008 at 2:42 pm
I live in the far northern suburbs and live music is the main reason I come into the city. In fact, my wife and I are considering moving to the city so we can be closer to these events. We enjoy the museums and restaurants, but we LOVE the music. Being able to see young, emerging bands in clubs like Schuba’s, Martyrs, the Empty Bottle, Subterranean, Reggie’s, The Hideout and Metro is one of the things that makes Chicago great. I have a 20 year old son who play drums in a band that has performed in all of these venues. These clubs gave the band a chance to play when clubs in the suburbs would not — they’d rather book a cover band than a band that actually CREATES music. If you have any regard for music and the arts — and Chicago’s international reputation for great music — you can’t simply cannot take these clubs away.
Don’t do it.
1302. Paul Metreyeon | May 12, 2008 at 2:43 pm
I sure hope this does not pass……
1303. Dustin Alberty | May 12, 2008 at 2:43 pm
I am a resident of Cleveland Ohio and a friend of mine goes to school in Chicago I have been to a few concerts in Chicago and had a great time every time, this law does nothing but stifle and make it harder to access your own creative side
1304. Andrew Emil | May 12, 2008 at 2:43 pm
Bad idea in a city that is already know as The Second City. I don’t want to be known as the Third, Fourth, or Fifth City. This is stupid and everybody knows it.
1305. Pete Murphy | May 12, 2008 at 2:44 pm
This is a bunch of crap, I love Chicago, but this is just another one of their many ways of sucking the cash right out of anyone they can. This cannot happen. Whoever came up with this idea needs to be run out of Illinois!
1306. Adam Haus | May 12, 2008 at 2:44 pm
There are ample ordinances/laws already on the books to make venues of all sizes safe for patrons; we don’t need another burdensome ordinance that will surely decrease the availability of live music in Chicago.
Live, local music is one of the distinctive things about the city, and it’s endangered enough as it is. Please vote No on this ordinance!
1307. Keith Vlk | May 12, 2008 at 2:44 pm
Being apart of the music scene for the better part of 10 years has taught me so much. This ordinance is just en excuse for the city to make more money. Stop taking advantage of people just trying to live out a dream.
Keith Vlk
vlk.carbonmade.com
1308. Lauren Kohl | May 12, 2008 at 2:44 pm
You might as well Kiss chicago goodbye. what would make us unique if not for our music styles? We’re praised everywhere for making such unique music, and producing thousands of artists, and bands that travel globally. Why would you want to stifle that?
1309. Sarah H | May 12, 2008 at 2:44 pm
I moved to Chicao 3 years ago because I was so attracted to the strong cultural scene it had to offer. An ordinance such as this will do nothing but hamper this city’s amazing musical offerings. This will only discourage people from visiting and moving to Chicago in the future!
1310. Paul Garcia | May 12, 2008 at 2:45 pm
This new ordinanace would kill the vibrant music scene Chicago has and would only serve to richen the City’s already abundant funds. This must not pass.
1311. Angela Papaleo | May 12, 2008 at 2:45 pm
CEASE AND DESIST! Shame on you, you useless aldermen for your time-wasting and rage-enducing ordinances.
If you pass this legislation, you can kiss the Olympics AND artistic expression goodbye.
1312. Tony G | May 12, 2008 at 2:45 pm
Vote No!
1313. Timothy Ilg | May 12, 2008 at 2:45 pm
Freedom of expression. This ordinance is simply unconstitutional.
1314. Gabriel Kasperek | May 12, 2008 at 2:45 pm
Traveling in Europe it’s so great to see many of the live musical events that really make a city attractive. Compared to some cities on the European continent, I thought Chicago never had enough events. Now hearing about this new ordinance I’m shocked that they are trying to make it more difficult. Sorry to hear that this is acceptable by the City Council.
1315. Cory West | May 12, 2008 at 2:45 pm
Chicago needs it’s music. Plain and simple.
1316. Lj | May 12, 2008 at 2:45 pm
Let the censorship begin
1317. Chris Kozlowski | May 12, 2008 at 2:46 pm
This ordinance is awful. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE vote NO to the promoters ordinance — we, the people, are aware of this terrible attempt to stifle Chicago culture and music and we implore you to take action!!!
1318. Jeff Harris | May 12, 2008 at 2:46 pm
Make no mistake, this is about money. The City of Chicago prides itself on exploiting the people with the highest taxes in the country and over-priced fines that are near impossible to appeal. If fact, you have to pay to appeal tickets making protesting violations a mute point. The City doesn’t believe this ordinance will harm the Chicago arts community because they are blinded by dollar signs. Just as over-priced permits ran the film industry out of Chicago, this will do the same to the little guy, but Chicago politicians are so arrogant they think that we’ll be willing to pay anything to perform in their City. Their wrong. We can’t. If this ordinance is passed a mass exodus of artists from Chicago will occur, and the City will lose money because no one is buying these permits, and therefore no one is buying tickets, and if there is no reason to visit Chicago for the arts, other local businesses, i.e. the restaurant industry, will also be effected. Chicago used to be a major hub of corporate conventions, but over-priced permits have driven them away. If corporate America can’t afford Chicago, how can small, independent artists? The City’s bureaucrats are too concerned about making a quick buck to really see the damage their doing. Any politician who votes for this ordinance is irresponsible and inept. This democracy has become a monarchy, in which the rich believe they can take what-ever they wish from the people because we should thank them for allowing us to live in their City, but I charge that we, the people, own this City, and its about time these feudal lords start acting like public servants and start doing what is best for us, not them. What this City really needs is a Robin Hood.
1319. Laura Hawbaker | May 12, 2008 at 2:46 pm
What makes a city vibrant is the ecclectricity of its culture. It’s the difference between cities like New York and San Francisco and cities like Houston and Milwaukee. Chicago is an artistic, musical and cultural hub because of its vibrant indie and underground scene.
These musicians, artists, and theater troupes already have so many hurtles to overcome. By eliminating a smaller venue’s ability to book gigs by alternative acts and up-and-comers (some of the most innovative work is being done by “starving artist” types), officials will effectually water down one of the most appealing aspects of Chicago’s cultural scene.
1320. Fred Marsh | May 12, 2008 at 2:46 pm
This awful.
1321. Joe Price | May 12, 2008 at 2:46 pm
That is absolutely ridiculous. I agree this would completely stifle the music scene in Chicago.
I’m from St. Louis, but this would impact our music scene as well, with Chicago being one of the first “nonlocal” places bands play from St. L play, and we get a lot of bands from Chicago playing here.
1322. Jason | May 12, 2008 at 2:46 pm
Without a flourishing artistic community-cynicism, ignorance and arrogance abound. These are things which cripple any city, including its commerce-which is something this ordinance seeks to increase, but it is backwards thinking. The city that supports the artists-musicans, theatre makers and creates a win/win for all but to limit, restrict, regulate, charge and fine artistic projects/endeavours/gigs absolutely leads us to a lose/lose situation for everyone-artists, audience and businesses alike.
I say NO to this ordinance as an artist and Chicago resident.
1323. Martin Nutley | May 12, 2008 at 2:47 pm
This ordinance is totally unnecessary. Just enforce the current laws on the books. Small and legitimate music and performance venues should not have to bear the brunt of what happened at E2, which was over 5 years ago. Please vote NO on this ordinance.
1324. Adam Speck | May 12, 2008 at 2:47 pm
This is a horrible idea for the performing arts community on all levels. Chicago will be the demise of its own culture if this ordnance passes. I beg the folks of the city council to reconsider the manner, and its true consequences.
1325. Nathan Xander | May 12, 2008 at 2:47 pm
no no no no no no no no no no
man… i mean… i’d love to play at the auditorium theater. but i didn’t forsee that happening for another couple years…
i can’t think of another city that would ever dream of this being a good idea. three cheers for da mayor!
1326. Megan Carreon | May 12, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Small venues provide, not only a place for local bands to play without paying a fortune, but a place for many teens to hang out. This gives those bands the opportunity to be recognized and do what they love. These place keeps teens out of trouble and could inspire them as muscians.
1327. Brady Novak | May 12, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Chicago is a fantastic place to start out as a comedian, band, or actor because of its small venues. If this ordinance goes through those venues would be greatly hurt and performers would have to look to other cities to spend their money.
1328. Marie O'Brien | May 12, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Another vote against this ordinance by a longtime Chicagoan. I ask the city Council to rethink this and listen to the voices of the people.
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1330. DAVID PAINTER | May 12, 2008 at 2:49 pm
NO NO NO DONT DO IT
1331. Scott Herron | May 12, 2008 at 2:49 pm
This ordinance sounds a tad politically motivated to me? The question I have is who feels threatened enough by people who are out there merely living a life that they feel passionate about to try to quash such efforts. Talk about truly driving the comedy (and other artistic) outlet(s) underground!! C’mon Chicago! Recognize where a large portion of your history lays. I VOTE NO to charging these ridiculous fees!
1332. Kate Pohl | May 12, 2008 at 2:49 pm
This is crazy. It reminds me of the freedoms taken away from people in Nazi Germany prior to the holocaust. Is this where we’re headed? Please don’t pass this.
1333. michael mencke | May 12, 2008 at 2:49 pm
How can they not see that this will drive more people to illegal venues that could be unsafe? Have they forgotten about the problems they had with raves?
1334. Leigh | May 12, 2008 at 2:49 pm
save the music
1335. daon hufnus | May 12, 2008 at 2:50 pm
good luck passing this one you crazy chicago nazis! you’re going to lose big time. if you’re looking to fuck someone start by going and fucking yourselves.
peace, art, music and love!
1336. Nick Eisner | May 12, 2008 at 2:50 pm
As a musician and self-promoter for my band, I see this only as a means to exclude local music from emerging onto the thriving Chicago music scene. It’s hard enough to find all-ages shows for bands that can create wonderful music yet don’t make the 21+ cut, but now this kind of legislation would effectively trample on all the effort local bands put forth to have their music heard. This is an abomination of government. Period.
1337. jonathan bukiewicz | May 12, 2008 at 2:50 pm
this ordinance would harm a music scene that is already straining against a weakened economy. SAVE LIVE INDEPENDENT MUSIC IN CHICAGO!
1338. Linda Lywitzki | May 12, 2008 at 2:50 pm
I am shocked that the City of Chicago would even propose such a ill thought out ordinance instead of acutally trying to figure out a better way to prevent underground promotions with out hurting the legitimate small music venues that help make Chicago’s music scene so great and help promotes tourism in this city.
1339. Alec Pinkston | May 12, 2008 at 2:50 pm
This is absolutely ridiculous.
1340. Hannah Martens | May 12, 2008 at 2:51 pm
This is absolutely ridiculous. As so many have stated, one of the best parts of Chicago culture is the many different music venues around the city and the opportunity that these smaller venues give to both musicians and fans alike to experience a wide variety of live music. How can indepent musicians expect to survive in Chicago if this ordinance passes?? My vote is NO, NO a THOUSAND times NO!!
1341. Eugene McIntosh | May 12, 2008 at 2:51 pm
If it aint one thing its another!!!!! NOT THIS TIME!
1342. Bryan Bowden | May 12, 2008 at 2:51 pm
There needs to be some massive reconsideration of this law. This law would not only kill Chicago culture, but take business away from the bars and restaurants that surround performance venues. That would mean lost jobs and taxes for Chicago during a time of recession.
1343. shawn martin | May 12, 2008 at 2:51 pm
What!? No way. Absolutely not! This is ridiculous.
One of the top reasons I LOVE living in Chicago is because of the music scene. The small venues. The local shows.
If this goes through…its just very sad. For some people their music is a way of life. It IS their life.
Crazy. This just made me sick to my stomach.
1344. Joseph Waked | May 12, 2008 at 2:51 pm
This ordinance will serve as discouragement for small time commerce and a hinderance to the fine arts scene.
1345. Dominick C. | May 12, 2008 at 2:52 pm
This is just another example of how full of $&%# the people in charge can be. They always puff out their chests and proclaim all the things this city has to be proud of, one of those is always the blues. I wonder if KoKo Taylor and Buddy Guy and countless other blues greats that formed the movement here would have been able to perform if they would have had to pay this rediculous price. This will lead to nothing beneficial for the city, only for the people in city hall deepening their pockets, who care only about being power and would just as well live in New York or Las Vegas. They don’t care about us, and this is a prime example of the continued attempt to turn one of the most unique cities in the world into a giant shopping mall.
1346. Brenda Fischer | May 12, 2008 at 2:52 pm
The type of venues that would be affected by this ridiculous ordinance are the crux of what makes the Chicago music scene what it is. VOTE NO!
1347. Lisa Kueng | May 12, 2008 at 2:52 pm
Don’t pass this ordinance- let Chicago keep its culture!
1348. Jason Coffman | May 12, 2008 at 2:52 pm
This is absolutely insane. I can’t imagine why the city would want to force the cultural landscape to suddenly resemble that of a rural town in the Appalachians. Killing off small venues would wipe out 90+% of the cultural events going on in Chicago at any given time! This ordinance is utter foolishness.
1349. Scott Hoffman | May 12, 2008 at 2:53 pm
This would be a terrible blow to the Chicago music scene, and a completely unnecessary one at that.
1350. Mark Oster | May 12, 2008 at 2:53 pm
Chicago’s live music scene drives the culture in this community. This ordinance will essentially stab that scene in the neck and chase it to the underground. So, aside from being tremendously misguided, it would also be doomed to failure. As a lifelong music fan and Chicagoan, I can give you my personal guarantee on this. Basically, nobody wins with this. Don’t be stupid. I will personally never vote for anybody who supports this ordinance, and will make sure a list of the names of aldermen who do are circulated.
1351. Chris Peditto | May 12, 2008 at 2:53 pm
No thanks! Say no to the honky death culture.
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1353. Sherry D'Agostino | May 12, 2008 at 2:54 pm
PLEASE….. !!! Can the city possibily stop stifling the creative culture, the business owners, and the general public??? I am absolutely against this ordinance.
1354. NO | May 12, 2008 at 2:54 pm
Not possible! There are things you can simply not do! Live-orginal-music and Chicago just go together. That’s one of the reason why Chicago is internationally acclaimed. I know what I’m talking about, I’m from Europe/France! Please do not touch one of the most beautiful gift of this great city!
1355. Devin Landau | May 12, 2008 at 2:54 pm
please dont pass this!
chicago wouldn’t be the same, and it would discourage young promoters like myself from doing the things that i love.
doesnt sound good
1356. Aaron Ritter | May 12, 2008 at 2:54 pm
I oppose this new legislation and hope that enough people can mobilize to urge the city council to reconsider their position. I send my support from the road.
1357. B.T. Owens | May 12, 2008 at 2:54 pm
Why don’t they ever slow down
Their laws are all over this town
the reputation is sweeping the nation
the ordanance is draging me down.
1358. Jillian | May 12, 2008 at 2:54 pm
This ordinance seems to do nothing but destroy some of the best performance places/ talent from performing. Keeping the artist from being artist. Makes me furious!
1359. Patrick NWI | May 12, 2008 at 2:54 pm
Chicago with no venues? thats not right. some of the best shows ive been to have been in chicago. i also know of people and junkies getting off the street, and found a scene that made them feel welcome and got off drugs. those venues that will get shut down. will just cause people not to have anything to look forward to. no shows. better weekend enjoying good music… will just let people get bored, and possible be more crime. i dont know. what ever the city is doing to the venues / promoters to a full extend is rediculous.
1360. Sue Fink | May 12, 2008 at 2:54 pm
This is, in part, what I sent via e-mail to Alderman Schulter:
…. I must request that you vote NO on the ordinance, for the following reasons:
1. As currently worded, the vagueness of certain descriptions would most likely have a negative impact on the smaller venues who can least afford it.
2. Current laws exist that promote safety at events; if these laws are enforced, there really is no need for this additional ordinance.
3. A large part of the outrage for this ordinance is due to promoters having to secure as much as $300,000 in liability insurance per event — when they are not responsible for security, the venues are responsible — and be at least 21 years old, and be fingerprinted, and have to pay a $500 – $2,000 licensing fee every two years.
Age restriction: is this even legal? Isn’t the legal working age 16? Why should a young and ambitious promoter not be allowed to work in Chicago?
Fingerprinting: Why is this necessary? If a VENUE wants to fingerprint an employee, that’s their business; but the city of Chicago isn’t paying the promoter; the promoter is not a City employee; I can see no reason for this, nor a background check, unless the promoter is a direct employee of the City. How can such a demand be legal?
Licensing fee: If a promoter lived in the city, and *only* booked within the city, I suppose the fee would feel less repugnant; however, many promoters book small bands at small venues on a national basis, and don’t make a heck of a lot of money doing so — especially when they are just starting out.
If a promoter who doesn’t have high earnings has the choice between booking bands in a city that charges fees vs. cities that do NOT charge fees, obviously the promoter will choose the latter.
Also, if other cities decide to start charging this type of fee as well, most small promoters will go out of business — they simply will not be able to afford a $500 fee here, a $1,000 fee there, etc., when they are only pulling in tens, or (if they’re lucky) hundreds, of dollars.
And even if the promoter tries to “recoup” these losses by charging the venues for these fees — well, most small venues can’t afford $500 – $2,000 fees for multiple promoters, so they’d have to say no. Heck, most of the smaller venues can’t even afford to pay the bands!
The result: Soon promoters would avoid booking smaller bands in Chicago; venues wouldn’t book lesser-known bands; and the music would move elsewhere. THIS is the fear that we musicians share.
I’m sure this cannot be the intent of the ordinance. In fact, I’m pretty sure that our fair city was just simply trying to capitalize financially on a perceived opportunity to make our venues “more safe.” I’m certain that had the City taken in the view of musicians, small venues, and promoters, they would have realized the potential pitfalls of the proposed ordinance.
If the City REALLY wants to know who the promoters are, for safety reasons — instead of for the suspected reason of capitalizing financially — all the ordinance would have to request is that venue operators keep *written records* of the promoters’ names, addresses, phone numbers, etc. If the venues themselves want to attempt to hold promoters financially liable for potential disasters, that is their business — not the City’s.
I strongly urge you, Alderman Schulter, to consider these points. Please do the right thing by voting NO to this ordinance.
Thank you for your consideration.
1361. Andrew Waterman | May 12, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Let’s not let Chicago become another generic midwestern city.
1362. Jackie Wolk | May 12, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Yep. Go ahead, Chicago. Keep slamming those doors of opportunity in the face of your musicians and artists. You’ll still get your revenue from the American Girl Place players, or from United Center during the next Rolling Stones tour. When your credibility as a world-class city goes in the toilet, though, don’t come crying to us.
Meanwhile, we’ll do what we’ve always done in the presence of adversity: make art, theater and music at underground venues. That little slice of the pie you’re forfeiting is a veritable feast to us. It’s not like this ordinance is going to stop the community anyway.
1363. Pam Dickler | May 12, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Chicago’s small theater/music venues help make our city vibrant and exciting, which benefits Chicagoans and tourists alike. I look forward to the day that we set the precedent of seeking new ways to support the survival of such cultural treasures. Just imagine our city without these spaces, because that is the road we are on if this blanket ordinance is passed. Let’s help keep Chicago’s local theater/music scene alive and well, as it is one of the true heartbeats of our city.
Pam Dickler
Producing Director
DBA Studios
1364. Andrew Ward | May 12, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Brilliant! Take away what made Chicago what it is. I hear Wisconsin has a nice underground music scene.
1365. Sylvie Sadarnac | May 12, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Doesn’t the City Council have better things to do than squelch the little guys? Let’s focus on real problems, people. Vote against this ordinance and move on.
1366. Tina | May 12, 2008 at 2:56 pm
Chicago is music. This ordinance would greatly hinder the small artists. There must be another alternative!
1367. Patrick NWI | May 12, 2008 at 2:56 pm
is chicago poor.. and trying to find excuses to get money…?
1368. Dago | May 12, 2008 at 2:56 pm
What is happening to Chicago? Have we gotten rid of commen sense altogether? Might as well forget about the Olympics.
1369. O. MOSENDZ | May 12, 2008 at 2:56 pm
REDICULOUS – stop the ordinance immediately!!!
1370. Katie Garza | May 12, 2008 at 2:56 pm
this is absolutely rediculous. Without the Chicago music scene, I would not be the same person, nor would I have half of the friends that I have. Taking the music scene and culture would be like ripping out a part of me. Chicago is known for the culture and creativity! WHY TAKE IT AWAY?
1371. Jackie Schneider | May 12, 2008 at 2:57 pm
Don’t kill our local music scene! VOTE NO!
1372. Rebecca Dorff | May 12, 2008 at 2:57 pm
CHICAGO, YOU CAN”T DO THIS!!! the city is getting more boring by the minute, this will crush any character that it ever had.
PLEASE DON’T DO THIS.
1373. Le Sprite | May 12, 2008 at 2:57 pm
I had my suspicions that Chicago was slowly turning into a giant, douchey, overpriced sports bar…
but I never thought they would go THIS far.
Protest is NOT optional, this time. We need to fight back.
1374. Bekki Anderson | May 12, 2008 at 2:57 pm
I agree with this comment from above:
OPPOSE!!
Please listen to the voice of your community.
This is a case of throwing the baby out with the bathwater. We all want safe events in licensed venues, but this is a ridiculously vague law that punishes upstanding venues, promoters and musicians for the sins of a few.
1375. Darren DeWitt | May 12, 2008 at 2:58 pm
I am a member of da Cornetto Opera company, Chicago’s ONLY concert opera company. I know how strapped the company is for funds as it is…this bill would be the nail in the coffin for us, and so many other small performance groups. I moved to this city because of the multitude of perforamce venues and opportunities. If this bill were to pass, I would most likely be looking for a new city to call home.
1376. Lana Poskin | May 12, 2008 at 2:58 pm
I am absolutely appalled. This proposal should NOT be passed.
1377. Liz WIlliams | May 12, 2008 at 2:58 pm
This is ridiclous. I grew up seeing my favorite not so big time bands in Chicago and still do to this day. If this passes Chicago’s music scene will be destroyed. All we will have is big names that can afford to play and $50.00 tickets to us. This is a disgrace.
1378. Beth Elder | May 12, 2008 at 2:58 pm
This ordinance is too restrictive to small, independent groups. Think of another way to insure safe venues. Do not pass this ordinance.
1379. Jennifer Swanson | May 12, 2008 at 2:58 pm
This new legislation seems a bit underhanded, and in the larger picture, pointless. The underground creative music scene should not be stifled more than it already is.
1380. Andy | May 12, 2008 at 2:59 pm
I hope this is does not happen! Music in Chicago and small venues is the best time out in the city. Fight The Power! Don’t let this happen….. plus how are all the homeless guys gonna make a living if they can’t sell tickets outside the Metro and Vic?
1381. Pedro Castro | May 12, 2008 at 2:59 pm
PLEASE READ.
Protest? 1pm? City Hall? Tomorrow? Can this work?
1382. Aron Fischer | May 12, 2008 at 2:59 pm
absolutely ridiculous. Chicago strongest allure is it’s thriving arts and music scene. Don’t kill that off!
1383. Pedro Castro | May 12, 2008 at 3:00 pm
please read.
rally at City Hall? tomorrow? 1pm? Could that work?
1384. howard bunch | May 12, 2008 at 3:00 pm
This should not happen Let the people play. This is ridiculous what you are doing. If you do this, I cannot come to Chicago and listen to the new music. You are destoying tourism. Howard Bunch
1385. Chris Gillock | May 12, 2008 at 3:00 pm
This ordinance is wrong-headed and will destroy the blues scene in Chicago! As a part-time blues musician and a full-time blues fan, i will see most, if not all, of my favorite venues shut down. I find it hard to believe that the alderpersons really want to kill off blues, jazz, indie rock, hip hop and all the other exciting live music events that occur at Chicago’s small venues every night! This has to be a case of unintended consequences. STOP THIS MISTAKE BEFORE IT HAPPENS!!!
Chris Gillock (aka Mr. G, Mr G & the Mystery Band)
1386. DM | May 12, 2008 at 3:00 pm
There is no sense in this at all. It only strips diversity, culture and vitality from an amazing city bursting with it. Why would anyone want to suppress it? Vote NO.
1387. Kornelija L. | May 12, 2008 at 3:00 pm
This is going too far. We let them control a big portion of our “freedoms” with their laws. Cell phone usage, driving after a certain time, smoking in public, etc.
THIS is unaxeptable.
THEY CANNOT TOUCH OUR MUSIC.
No way, it wont happen.
Music is the only true freedom we have left folks. Art in all is dying and this deffinitely will quicken the process of total control. It’s rediculous.
1388. Glen Fillion | May 12, 2008 at 3:01 pm
Another naked grab for “revenue enhancement” by the bankrupt Chicago City Council, When all tax sources are overstretched and taxpayers are fed up, then they attack the creative community. What a sad day for Chicago if this were to pass under the radar. I say “NO!” Let this hard-working city of the “big shoulders” have the freedom to entertain itself without city hall interfering.
1389. Chris Schultz | May 12, 2008 at 3:01 pm
VOTE NO! They will not win we WE will fight them! They will not destroy our music scene!
1390. DJ High Jack | May 12, 2008 at 3:01 pm
i am comletely against this ordinance. one like this went into affect in Charlotte, NC back in 2001 or so and the underground art/dancemusic scene went to shit. i oppose this ordinance and anything related to it.
1391. danny nelms | May 12, 2008 at 3:01 pm
as a fan of many local bands and a local artist for a few years .. this will cripple the rich music scene the city has and drive away classic venues with deep musical history such as the metro and the vic. i show my support to stop this law and pray the day never comes where it would be passed
1392. Jon Krusell | May 12, 2008 at 3:01 pm
This should no be passed.
Call your alderman to make your opinion known
go to http://civicfootprint.org/
1393. emily schwartz | May 12, 2008 at 3:02 pm
Jaw droppingly stupid and highly detrimental to the city at large. VOTE NO!
1394. Mike Davis | May 12, 2008 at 3:02 pm
Please don’t let this happen to Chicago.
1395. Arlene Bardelle | May 12, 2008 at 3:02 pm
I’m a vocalist in Chicago and play at many of the small venues of Chicago. Please save the tremendous diversity and musical culture of this great city and do not pass this ordinance. Thank you.
1396. Jane D | May 12, 2008 at 3:02 pm
My husband is a musician and we live in Chicago. Consider my name on the list!
1397. Chicago Music | May 12, 2008 at 3:02 pm
Check this email i got from one of my Artists in california
The same is beginning to happen in California. It’s started in a city called San Jose where in order for a promoter to conduct business, they have to get a special permit from the chief of police at city hall which is ridiculous. They also get to inspect your books quarterly to find out how much money you make whether you profit or lose money.
The same goes for performers, they have to get permits in order to get booked into live venues whether inside or outside.
I will defineately sign this petition
Its not just in chicago its US wide.
1398. Elyse Reardon | May 12, 2008 at 3:02 pm
As a musician and former resident of Chicago (it will always be home to me), I am deeply saddened that this ordinance would even be considered. I’ve moved around a bit, but there’s no place like Chicago for indie plays, music, and art. Never have I opened up another Reader or local weekly and seen so many great performances or openings, with tickets often less than the price of a movie.
This ordinance would kill all that and bring shame to the town. Gentrification has pushed so many artists and performance venues further and further from the heart of where it began. It is incredibly disheartening that this would be encouraged to begin with, but this ordinance would shut down virtually all alternative and even larger venue performances.
Please do not throw away the heart and soul of my favorite city. It ain’t called windy because of the weather, but because of the profound love its natives have for it!!!
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1400. Theresa Drda | May 12, 2008 at 3:03 pm
This ordinance seems to suggest that the City of Chicago is willing to cut off its head to spite its nose.
What is the rationale for such a potentially destructive action?
I live in a suburb north of Chicago. I’m involved in the local (primarily Chicago) music scene as a musician and patron. I drive into Chicago to perform, and to experience music at small venues. I spend money on food, drink and merchandise. Friends invite me to their shows and friends come to my shows. We all spend money.
And the city wants to stifle this kind of activity? I must be missing something.
…… there’s always the suburbs … which might just be happy to make room for the arts, culture and economic activity that Chicago apparently fails to value.
But what ridiculous shame it would be.
1401. Jeffrey Libersher | May 12, 2008 at 3:03 pm
Where does it end?
1402. Tony Rielage | May 12, 2008 at 3:03 pm
This will demolish hundreds of small theater companies in Chicago, if I’m reading it correctly (it reads so incoherently- does this just apply to “special events”? and what constitutes such an event?). This absurd law will make it near impossible for smaller companies to continue to exist- our budgets are tight enough as it is.
This will leave the cultural options in this great city, which drew me and most of the people I know from all corners of the country, at little more than the big downtown musicals and the like.
1403. jason leland bailey | May 12, 2008 at 3:03 pm
as a musician in the chicago scene this ordinance can not be passed! chicago without music is like chicago without the cubs or the bulls!
whats next if this passes? no sports, or big event in the park!
its is outrageous!
our voices will be heard!!!
1404. Gerry Field | May 12, 2008 at 3:03 pm
Who could support such a ridiculous ordinance? Who would benefit from it? Not Chicago and most members of the arts community. This would mark the beginning of the end for any development of our musical and theater culture in Chicago. I’d like to know who has the nerve to present this as a viable option and if anyone really thinks it makes sense. Perhaps somebody thinks we should just outsource actors and musicians. It could save alot of money. Or we’ll all have to start performing on the streets of Chicago. … Please vote NO!
1405. Carlos Ramos | May 12, 2008 at 3:04 pm
This ordinance is a complete outrage! The music scene is struggling enough as it is, however for the ones who are still involved in it, it means the world to us. It’s bad enough that kids these days aren’t being introduced to art and music, but now the city wants to eliminate it completely? That’s ridiculous. I’m whole-heartedly against this ordincance.
::Carlos::
1406. Todd Desper - DJ Destiny | May 12, 2008 at 3:04 pm
One of the foundations which this country was founded on, was freedom of speech, and as a DJ, and lifelong music fan, that freedom to play music, express ourselves through music and gather to listen to music, should never come at a price so high, that it would cost us our ability to enjoy the essence of music itself.
- DJ Destiny
1407. Jan Viscum | May 12, 2008 at 3:04 pm
This ordinance is unnecessary and will only hurt the art community in Chicago. Don’t take our music away by making it to costly for acts to play Chicago!
1408. Harlan Terson | May 12, 2008 at 3:05 pm
Let’s not make it more difficult than it already is to promote and perform music in Chicago.
1409. Christopher Foss | May 12, 2008 at 3:05 pm
As a member of the music community for the last 27 years of my young life, you come to realize that there are some parts of life that one cannot live without. Music and art are forms of expression and imagination, that can cause other people to feel things they never dreamed of, to be creative and imaginative themselves, to be individuals. Chicago has been a breeding ground for thousands of said artists and musicians for many, many years, for something of this magnitude to be set in to effect would truly halt one of the most beautiful aspects of the city. Chicago, as well as it’s surrounding areas, could not live through this travesty. Chicago’s music must live on….
1410. Jessica Seibert | May 12, 2008 at 3:05 pm
This is absolutely ridiculous. why would someone want to pass this? It doesn’t make any sense to me. i dont come to chicago often but when i do i like coming to the smaller places, and smaller clubs are not going to have the money to pay for this dumb insurance and will have to close…we talk about how the economy is bad now…we are putting our own city into the current situation.
1411. Myopenbar.com | May 12, 2008 at 3:05 pm
We are horrified at the thought of this passing, and will be publicizing this in our weekly newsletter at Myopenbar.com.
POWER TO THE PEOPLE!
1412. mis park | May 12, 2008 at 3:05 pm
chicago’s quality of life would suffer greatly if its creative talent were strongly discouraged from providing art and culture. is our city budget so imbalanced that we have to charge artists to express themselves?!
1413. Susan Wingerter | May 12, 2008 at 3:06 pm
Please, please, please stop this ordinance from becoming law. So many talented local theatre companies, artists and musicians don’t often perform in venues of 500 seats or more, can’t carry that hefty amount of liability insurance and usually have a budget of $500 for the ENTIRE SHOW.
Artists from all over the world have come to Chicago for decades to express themselves, to collaborate and exchange ideas, and to be a part of a culture that continues to thrive and create. If this passes, it will all be gone.
1414. Ricky Rangel | May 12, 2008 at 3:06 pm
I think that this is just ridiculous……dont take what chicago is all about.
1415. Cisley McPhail | May 12, 2008 at 3:06 pm
I disapprove. Please add my name to your petition.
1416. howard bunch | May 12, 2008 at 3:06 pm
You cannot possibly think this is a good idea. You will shut down all the great groups that play, thus realizing revenue for the city throgh their drinkpurchases and food purchases. Get a life. Stop taxing every damn thing!~
1417. Stephen Schmidt | May 12, 2008 at 3:07 pm
This is utter folly and will surely end up hurting this city’s vibrancy and economy in a miriad of ways. Absolute idiocy.
1418. Dan Coha | May 12, 2008 at 3:07 pm
The city has enough safety who should be doing their job.
It is not necessary to use them to hide behind a phony $500 tax.
1419. meagan | May 12, 2008 at 3:07 pm
please don’t pass this ordinance. one of the things i love the most about this city is the amount of great live music that comes here. chicago would have a huge empty void without it.
1420. jordan martins | May 12, 2008 at 3:08 pm
this is a horrible idea!
1421. Christopher Johnson | May 12, 2008 at 3:08 pm
Absoutely ludicrous.
City of Chicago, please find some other asinine way to make your money.
This would mean the complete and utter destruction of Chicago ‘nightlife’ as most know it.
Think I’m kidding?
How about NO choices about where to see CREATIVE, challenging music.
Instead, what we’ll have are a couple of mainstream, expensive, boring selections to choose from.
Let’s just turn Chicago into a bland, retirement community already.
I mean a rich, bland, retirement community.
1422. David Ammann | May 12, 2008 at 3:10 pm
Chicago is a unique, diverse and vibrant city – this seems like a good way to kill that.
1423. Stephen | May 12, 2008 at 3:10 pm
this would suck…
1424. Tim Konn | May 12, 2008 at 3:10 pm
This is one of the most preposterous things I’ve ever heard. Why doesn’t the City try spending its already high tax dollars responsibly instead of taxing its citizens needlessly to compensate for its fiscal irresponsibility and excessive spending? Chicago’s creative scene is the pulse of its nightlife and this attempt to regulate it with taxes and licenses will not only stifle the city’s artists, but it will also irreparably damage many businesses that support and host our artistic community. DO NOT PASS THIS LEGISLATION.
1425. Robert Fulks | May 12, 2008 at 3:11 pm
As a supporter of the ‘small-time’ music scene, I can understand why it is they want to pass this kind of ordinance, but this isn’t the way to properly do it.
While this would help weed out the people who run shows knowing that it’s unsafe just to make a few extra bucks, the only people it’s really hurting are the unheard of bands; the ones that aren’t in this for the money.
1426. Seth Sher | May 12, 2008 at 3:11 pm
I have lived in Chicago for my entire life and have never been a fan of attending/playing shows at large venues. Its the small and DIY venues that keep Chicago’s music scene varied and interesting. As a show “promoter/performer” myself, the passing of this bill would mean the end of my lifelong dedication the city that bore me…and thats not what the city wants, is it?
1427. Your Little Ponies Street Team Commander | May 12, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Insanity. How many signatures are required? Thank you Theresa, Michael, and Michael.
1428. Chicago Music | May 12, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Just a update alot of my talent from the following networks signed the petition
chicagomusicpromotions.com
newmusicpromote.com
Also some other artists and djays are going to be sending out email blasts for people to come here and sign as well.
1429. Beth Iska | May 12, 2008 at 3:12 pm
This ordinance is a bad idea. Please add my name to the petition!
1430. Sandy Vosicky | May 12, 2008 at 3:12 pm
I cannot believe they would want to hinder the art community to such an extent. Mark me down as being on the list!
1431. Beth Herndobler | May 12, 2008 at 3:12 pm
Chicago’s arts community is one of the greatest things about this city. The city would not be the same if small theaters, clubs and other independant venues were no longer operating. Please do not pass this ordinance.
1432. Jim | May 12, 2008 at 3:12 pm
Chicago,
You should do better research. Something like this happened in Seattle a couple years ago, and it was a really big mess. It was a total clusterfuck and a waste of time and money. You should put more time and effort into stopping crime and violence in this urban jungle we all share together and stop bugging people that are doing good for their neighborhoods/youth/creative outlet/recreation/etc.
1433. Joe Ingraffia | May 12, 2008 at 3:13 pm
Please don’t stop the music.
1434. Antoine Jackson | May 12, 2008 at 3:13 pm
live music has been a part of chicago’s culture for decades. to pass this ordinance would be to take everything chicago has left away.
1435. Lisa | May 12, 2008 at 3:13 pm
I oppose this ordinance! Give us a break with these stupid rules, please.
1436. brad smith | May 12, 2008 at 3:14 pm
Chicago is the second biggest city in the country and one of the best in the world as far as choice and variety. To pass this ordinance would kill what makes a city a city, and further, what makes it stand out from the rest. DO NOT pass this ordinance.
1437. Elizabeth Harmon | May 12, 2008 at 3:14 pm
What are we now, fascists?
Do the aldermen know anything about the people and events they’re trying to restrain with this? The ordinance is in response to the E2 incident, which was indeed a tragedy, but the City Council should look at enforcing current laws that would have prevented that disaster before they create new ones. Perhaps they don’t actually know much about current laws. Wouldn’t surprise me.
1438. brian Gingrich | May 12, 2008 at 3:14 pm
I understand the ordinance is being introduced by Gene Schulter, my Alderman……..shame on you, Gene. Surely you know better than this!
1439. Natalie | May 12, 2008 at 3:15 pm
there are so many more things that need to be taken care of and brought to peoples attention…this not being one of them… its rediculious…
1440. R. Mason | May 12, 2008 at 3:15 pm
Please hammer, don’t hurt us.
1441. Lindsay Stout | May 12, 2008 at 3:15 pm
Chicago is known for its music, how are you going to take that away from us. Not to mention, with out music what are the younger generations going to turn to for recreational fun…drugs!
1442. Antoine Jackson | May 12, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Live music has been a part of Chicago’s culture for decades. To pass this ordinance would be to rid Chicago of everything it has left.
1443. Kath Duffy | May 12, 2008 at 3:16 pm
CALL. YOUR. ALDER(WO)MAN. NOW!!!
I live in the 35th Ward and just spoke to Rey Colon’s office – the staffer told me they had started to receive many calls on this today, but that she hadn’t yet seen the alderman to ask his position on this ordinance. I told her that I would call back tomorrow to find out where he stands on it, and that I urge him to oppose it.
More important than posting your name on here – contact your ward office today to urge your alderman to oppose this. They need to hear from you directly.
1444. Susan | May 12, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Stop the ordinance!
1445. Nick Engleman | May 12, 2008 at 3:16 pm
I hope this doesn’t pass, Chicago’s music scene will suffer badly and it will be unfair to those who truely love music. Absolutley Ridiculous
1446. Lisa S | May 12, 2008 at 3:17 pm
Being a musician and a bartender, I weep for what this could mean for our grand Chicago neighborhood taverns. Our tradition of great music at surprising and hidden places keeps our city vibrant and hoppin. It keeps us individuals in an increasingly monopoly-laden society. Please don’t take that away from us.
1447. Amanda Gilmore | May 12, 2008 at 3:17 pm
I strongly oppose the ordinance. I am a fan of local music scene of Chicago and feel that a lot of the talent we see in Chicago will dissapear if an ordinance like this is passed. Musicians and promoters already don’t make a lot of money and more fees would even furthermore make an increased financial burden. Bands will seek out other cities to play in and Chicago will no longer be the city of the performing arts. Please do everything you can to stop this. I support the efforts of all who are involved.
Thank you,
Amanda Gilmore
1448. Alberto Moreno | May 12, 2008 at 3:17 pm
Please let me know if there is a chance to appear in person and have our voice heard. This will absolutely kill a market that is already crippled by the mainstream $ focus. It will actually drive the newer talent to surrounding smaller towns
1449. Greg Floyd | May 12, 2008 at 3:18 pm
As a local chicago musician and part time self promoter i find this ordinance to be outrageous. We gotta fight this! Undeground music must live on. Chicago needs it. Daley can’t suck all the life out of this city.
1450. Aaron Farmer | May 12, 2008 at 3:18 pm
This ridiculous ordinance is stifling the independent culture of a great city.
1451. David Wilhelm | May 12, 2008 at 3:19 pm
This thing needs to be stopped now.
I don’t know if anyone else already did this, but I started a Facebook group. So, for those of you who use that frequetly, by all means pass this around.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=21273196534
1452. Michael Karman | May 12, 2008 at 3:19 pm
Please stop this fall to a big brother state.
1453. Sarah Christoff | May 12, 2008 at 3:19 pm
This is insane. I can’t possibly think of why ANYONE would consider this an effective OR economically sound idea. The negative repercussions that would result from this are almost self-explanatory:the art and culture of Chicago will DIE. Oh yeah, and don’t forget about the BUSINESS lost.. it’s s all about money anyway, right?There will be no good effect from this ordinance. Please don’t let it pass!
1454. Rachel Senecal | May 12, 2008 at 3:19 pm
Contact your alderman today! Stop the ordinance!
1455. Michelle | May 12, 2008 at 3:19 pm
Please add my name to the list of those opposing this ordinance.
1456. Tim Dienes | May 12, 2008 at 3:20 pm
Not only will this ordinance hurt the artistic community, but it will damage the city and its reputation, as well.
Chicago has long been known as a culturally rich city on an international scale.
To stifle the creativity for which this city is known is not only outrageous, in and of itself, but to do it at a time when we are seeking international recognition in the form of the Olympic Games is pure cultural suicide.
And any gains that may be momentarily felt through these licenses,
will be lost through the closing of many of these venues.
1457. Hillary Bauer | May 12, 2008 at 3:20 pm
This cannot go through.
I am a music student in college living in and in love with Chicago.
I can say without a doubt that if it was not for our local music and venues such as the Metro, I would not be in love with our city, working here, living here, and going to school here.
We cannot let the idea of a law garnered to grabbing more money under a veneer of safety (something which it would ultimately do little to help) kill Chicago’s up and coming musical, theatrical, and artistic culture.
To pass it is to kill our heart.
1458. patty | May 12, 2008 at 3:20 pm
vote no
1459. Paul Czarnowski | May 12, 2008 at 3:20 pm
Do not pass this ordinance. Clubs must comply with several rules and laws just to have their doors open at a certain time; it is hard to believe that any city would want to put an entire industry in their city limits out of business, instead of just tax their revenue stream.
1460. Eric Nye | May 12, 2008 at 3:20 pm
This ordinance will stifle creativity. Many performers will stop performing because it is no longer financially feasible for them to perform or it will be too much of a hassle to jump through the hoops necessary to perform. There are already plenty of laws in place to govern over this.
1461. Joe Van Der Bosch | May 12, 2008 at 3:21 pm
The passage of this ordinance would be a great detriment to the culture of this great City. As we all know, Chicago is known as the Home of the Blues. The blues is an art form characterized by the performance of poor, working class musicians. Imagine the home of the blues banning the very essence of what makes the blues great. This is truly a terrible idea.
1462. K Lux | May 12, 2008 at 3:22 pm
One more nail in the coffin against booking more quality shows in smaller venues in this city. Many performers will just pass Chicago on by, when planning their tours. Horrible!
1463. Cody Huffman | May 12, 2008 at 3:22 pm
Please don’t allow this ordinance to pass. It will effectively put many many people (bands, clubs, touring professionals) out of business.
1464. Andrea Kaz | May 12, 2008 at 3:22 pm
Please do not pass. How many signatures are required?
1465. Lola | May 12, 2008 at 3:23 pm
This ordinance would suck the fun out of Chicago. I love the music scene here as do so many!
1466. Sam Dlugach | May 12, 2008 at 3:23 pm
This will decimate the livelihood of countless musicians and thespians who book and promote their own shows. It clearly penalizes independent artists who are the rock upon which the nightlife of any thriving metropolis is built. This is very foolish legislation that could destroy many small businesses (theaters, clubs, bars, coffee houses) that rely on such talent to bring in patrons.
1467. Jennifer Anne Buckley | May 12, 2008 at 3:23 pm
Pertaining to E2 (which is supposedly why this is happening)
according to the Chicago Tribune: “Months after the stampede, an independent panel that reviewed the disaster and emergency response concluded that inadequate city inspection procedures and lack of city agency coordination allowed the club to stay open months after a court ordered it shut.”
Where is this the fault of the promoter? The promoter doesn’t own the club, the promoter doesn’t own the keys. The promoter doesn’t take care of the venue daily. Why is “the promoter” given the blame and the rest in the city have to suffer for it?
Please don’t hold the MANY young entrepreneurs responsible FOR the unbelievably irresponsible actions of THE FEW.
1468. Cole | May 12, 2008 at 3:23 pm
This is crazy……
One of the best things about Chicago is the wide variety of shows you can see on any given night.
This better not pass!! It would be such a shame.
1469. Erin O'Brien | May 12, 2008 at 3:23 pm
There really seems to be no need for this law to be passed, not to mention that it creates more problems for up and coming musicians and artists who have it hard enough as it is.
1470. Nathalie Baranyk | May 12, 2008 at 3:23 pm
Please this can’t be true! I’m moving back to Chicago this summer. Live music is Key to the cultural wellness of Chicago, someone stop them!
1471. Nick Keenan | May 12, 2008 at 3:23 pm
I can think of nothing more damaging to this city’s chances for a successful Olympic proposal and event than a crippled arts and culture scene. This ordinance is misguided and amounts to a declaration of war on the arts. I can see the point that cultural institutions need to have greater infrastructure to handle accessibility and liability and safety. Resources should be diverted towards educating and developing these institutions, not arbitrarily shutting them down. Arts organizations create great value for the community with small budgets. They deserve our support, and they are at risk in this legislation.
This is no less than an unfunded mandate on cultural institutions, and if you think it isn’t poison to a city that thrives on its cultural roots, you’re kidding yourself. You might as well call this No Arts Institution Left Behind.
And if the ordinance passes before the public has had time to be informed, Chicago will once again have egg on its face as it shoots itself in the foot.
1472. Sarah C | May 12, 2008 at 3:24 pm
Absolutely ridiculous. I could not believe that I was hearing when I was being told about this stupid ordinance! Forget that!
1473. John Rooks | May 12, 2008 at 3:24 pm
This is an incredibly sloppily written ordinance that appears to be of questionable usefulness. This needless regulation will significantly stifle the local arts scene, especially on the small-scale where the costs of dealing with such regulation are prohibitive. It’s a terrible, poorly thought-out idea.
1474. Alissa | May 12, 2008 at 3:24 pm
Don’t do this, Chicago! We need more reasons for people to visit/live there, not less!
1475. Tim Armstrong | May 12, 2008 at 3:24 pm
Please Please Please do not pass this ordinance. It would mean sure death to small venues, bands, restaurants and many other livelyhoods. I have played in many bands in many clubs here in Chicago and that is what makes Chicago a great town. You can always find great music. And that’s not even mentioning theatre and other forms of the arts. What is the city thinking?
1476. Ricardo Martinez | May 12, 2008 at 3:25 pm
Please do not pass this ordinance!
1477. Rebecca Hunter | May 12, 2008 at 3:25 pm
Fringe cultural activities have always fed the larger, more centralized, commercially orientated productions and events. Think of what the Edinburgh Fringe Festival means to the Edinburgh Interational arts festival. They keep a city vital and its cultural expressions viable. Don’t quash the fringe, everybody will loose.
1478. Janet Grace | May 12, 2008 at 3:25 pm
While I don’t live in Chicago, I go there often to go see concerts. Please stop this ordinance. It would ruin the Chicago that I love.
1479. Ksenia Golikova | May 12, 2008 at 3:25 pm
this ordinance is an outrage! as we have freedom of speech the cultural treasures of the chicagoland have to remain sacred!!! people from all over the country come to the city to experience its liberating creativeness and inspirational spirit!!!! the trends
of art should be passed onto next generations {of intelligent and cultured individuals} not chaned by restrictions!!!
say NO!!! to this ordinance
1480. Elana Kranz | May 12, 2008 at 3:26 pm
This would be a devastating blow to the culture of Chicago that Mayor Daley pretends he works hard on cultivating. And why would venues with 500+ permanent seats be exempt?
“No” to the “Event Promoters” ordinance!
1481. mark Mountain | May 12, 2008 at 3:26 pm
Stop the money grubbing and allow Chicago to keep singing, dancing, acting and helping others in the best venues available-keep the venues as they are. Support our local upcoming talents and keep it affordable for all of us to enjoy!
1482. sebastien hue | May 12, 2008 at 3:26 pm
completely distasteful. how could a city of so much culture and art create such dreadful stipulation and a death of a beautiful art.
1483. Angie Muzzarelli | May 12, 2008 at 3:26 pm
I think that they shouldn’t even consider it! Music is a beautiful thing- a very important art. It touches everyone, every race, religion, color. Ya can’t take it away! They would look like fools! Take music away in a big city! HA! They thrive on it! What else is there to do? Dinner, drinks, and music- ya can’t have a better night, SERIOUSLY!
1484. Mike Zembala | May 12, 2008 at 3:27 pm
Chicago is known for doing many things against the peoples will… whats next??? The Chicago facists have done enough damage already, now they wanna rot Chicagos soul from within. FUCK CHICAGO and its totalitarian ways, lets migrate the culture to the suburbs of Cook and Lake county. At least over there there is no fear of ostracization. THIS IS THE LAST STRAW CHICAGO!!!
1485. joshua anderson | May 12, 2008 at 3:27 pm
to take this kind of action is wrong and to do it without public notice is complete treason against not only chicagos people but the people of the world how visit chicago. STOP THIS ORDIANCE IT IS SO WRONG…JOSHUA ANDERSON
1486. Marea Stamper | May 12, 2008 at 3:27 pm
To whom it may concern,
My name is Marea Stamper and I am the Managing Director of GrooveMedia Group. GrooveMedia is an event marketing firm, organizing branded events with our corporate partners around the country and especially in Chicago.
While I am a proud resident of Chicago and the 27th ward, I would like to express displeasure equal to that pride with respect to the lack of courtesy I experienced when I called the office of the 27th ward today. I politely telephoned on behalf of my company and our associates asking to make an appointment to speak with someone about the upcoming vote on the proposed “promoters ordinance.” I was passed to someone who informed me that the vote was on Wednesday and that I could find out the results of the vote after that. I explained that I had called on behalf of myself and other businesspersons to speak with someone in the office and register our position, the speaker said “OK, thank you,” and hung up the phone.
Now, past my obvious frustration with my failed telephone call of this afternoon, I ask you to consider one question: What would have happened to Second City if this ordinance had been in place in 1959?
The answer is: probably nowhere.
After reading through the whole of Chapter 4-157, Title IV of the Municipal Code of the City of Chicago, I am compelled to write this letter addressing the unfair provisions contained in the new “Event Promoter” chapter of the city ordinance. As a member of the Chicago business community I feel that if this is allowed to pass it will do more put venue owners, whom I depend upon, out of business than it will ever accomplish in curbing illegal and dangerous events held within the city limits. The tiny minority who choose to operate outside the law will continue to do so while professionals who are operating within the guidelines of the law at safe, licensed facilities will be unfairly penalized for not holding their events in buildings that happen to have more than 500 permanent seats.
This ordinance also states that anyone promoting any event drawing more than 100 people must obtain a license, even if they are working with a well-established and already licensed promoter. The capacity range for these licenses, as outlined in 4-5-010, is Class D ($500) for 100 people or less, Class C ($1,000) for 500 people or less, Class B ($1,500) for 2000 people with Class A ($2,000) being unrestricted. I feel that these capacity price ranges unfairly discriminate against smaller promotional companies and venues that are often at the heart of nightlife communities. For example, most places catering to dance music often only have seats in the form of barstools or booths, no matter how large the actual capacity of the building may be. While the biggest venues are those that are exempt from these stipulations, they are also the ones who should require the most insurance and policing, as they are the establishments catering to thousands to tens-of-thousands of people on any given night. The larger promoters and venues that are exempt from a law that would be effective in making their venues, patrons and employees safer are, in some cases, those that need the stipulations the most. Licensees would also have to carry at least $300,000 in commercial liability insurance which is another difficult hurdle for smaller promotional entities to overcome.
This will be a devastating blow to Chicago arts commerce if implemented, and also you’ll most likely see lots of bars go under that depend on local artists organizing and promoting events at their venues to keep business going. If these smaller venues and promotional companies are stifled by these unrealistic financial burdens, there won’t be any artists for the larger national agencies to book and promote. Even outside the realm of nightclubs and music venues, I believe that this will also have an extremely adverse effect on everything from comedy showcases, small theatrical productions, seminars, community organizations, youth programs, artist collectives, activist groups, to fund-raising benefits – basically any smaller cultural happening taking place within the city limits. In a time when the Chicago and national cultural scenes are being taken over by generic entities such as Clear Channel, the city cannot afford to pass legislation that further increases the already high financial difficulty of staging independent events. This will kill what cultural identity the city has left, rendering the landscape even more generic and monopolized than it is now.
The introduction of this new ordinance also overlooks the logistical requirements of enforcing such measures. It will be nearly impossible to effectively enforce this legislation. Are we to believe, that in the face of rising murder and crimes rates, an already taxed Chicago Police Department will have the appropriate resources to stroll into nightclubs every night of the week to ensure compliance? Those at whom this ordinance truly targets — underground promoters and illegal production companies — are going to violate the norms and conventions regardless of the laws on the books. What’s more, this legislation will actually have the effect of driving unlicensed, unsavory or outright dangerous promoters further underground, placing more lives at unnecessary risk and making police enforcement more difficult. It’s impossible to regulate those who have blatant disregard for public safety concerns through legislation, but this particular piece imposes an environment of fear and an additional level of needlessly complex rules on those who mindfully work to ensure compliance with public safety rules. The scope of this legislation is far too broad to have any real effect on the underground, illegal party racket – people who operate outside of the law anyway, and will continue to do so – and those people will continue to operate in the face of this ordinance the dozens of other bits of legislation passed against them in the past. If they failed to follow any of those ordinances, what makes you think they will follow this one?
This legislation places the onus on the promoter, but this is a burden that must be shared in conjunction with the venue. If a venue works with an unlicensed promoter, or does not provide adequate security or enforcement, it is the promoter who gets stuck with the fault. Venues already must be properly licensed with the city, but it is unfair to penalize the promoters who have no choice but to work with them for any violation that is beyond their control. It is a shared responsibility, but ultimately, venues control their own doors. Promoters cannot be held responsible if a venue, even a properly licensed one, skimps on security or fails to control their venue.
It was Mayor Daley who said, “It’s the whole idea of what a city should be: the appreciation of the artistic community. That’s the soul of a city.” This ordinance shows a complete disregard for the artistic community and appears to be drafted by people who are out of touch with those who love Chicago because of its thriving independent art and music scene. As a citizen of this city I am concerned for the future of its cultural climate and for good reason, as arbitrarily broad legislation such as this ordinance is robbing Chicago of its authentic artistic scene, paving the way for a homogenized version where one or two larger companies have a monopoly over the entire city due to the fact that they’re the only ones who can afford to jump through the hoops that destroyed their competitors.
Thank you for your time,
Marea Stamper
GrooveMedia Group
Managing Director & BDCG
phone +1 773.474.7918
fax +1 773.539. 8569
mobile +502.299.7679
Chicago, IL 60630
1487. Brad Vogelgesang | May 12, 2008 at 3:27 pm
This is nuts. Please don’t pass this.
1488. Michael Berner | May 12, 2008 at 3:27 pm
Please don’t allow this ordinance to pass.
Michael S. Berner
1489. Jim Grillo, CMP | May 12, 2008 at 3:28 pm
This city squeezes its potential sometimes. I happen to live in Lombard due to the high taxes in the city. I shop here, I buy gas here and I buy groceries here. I am downtown every day and I train downtown. Parking is too high. NOW I see that they want to tax the little guy again with this license. But, if I understand correctly, they wont require this for venues 500+. I oppose making bands and actors pay for this license just to hold a small event. What is the motive for doing so? In a time where this city is found on corruption and the city and state politicians are lining their pockets, I do not want to make our artists and small event producers (under 500 pax) pay for something like this as it will cut off the creativity and culture that Chicago really is and really has to offer. Cmon, please stop the nonsense and DO NOT pass this ordinance.
1490. Gabe Levinson | May 12, 2008 at 3:28 pm
I am an independent producer and promoter who resides in Lincoln Square. My company, Feather Goes Here, is devoted to producing and promoting unique, Chicago-exclusive events. We focus on producing and promoting independent film animation and literary events.
I do not think its a bad idea to be required to be licensed as an events promoter in the city; if you’re serious about your business, you should always take the necessary steps to establish yourself. Getting licensed and getting insurance for an event is not ludicrous; it protects the promoter and it protects the patrons of the event.
With that being said, I take unction with the following, quoted from the proposed ordinance:
Section 4-157-020, titled License-when required-exclusions:
(A) No person shall engage in the business of event promoter without first having obtained an event promoter license under this chapter.
(B) The following persons are not event promoters within the meaning of this chapter:
(7) the City of Chicago and its sister agencies
(8) any employee of the City of Chicago or its sister agencies, to the extent that the employee plans, prepares, or executes an amusement or event in the course of such employment
How is it that the City of Chicago is exempt from the very ordinance that they are proposing to enforce? When the City of Chicago has an event to promote (click here for a list of upcoming city-sponsored events) are they not also the promoters of the event? Or is the City of Chicago hiring third-party promoters, in which case, does this mean that if another tragedy like what happened at E2, were to occur, the city will not be held responsible; and instead it would be the third-party promoter?
If safety and liability are the main push of this ordinance, how is it that the very city enforcing this has found a way to not be held liable for their own events?
1491. Bob Rummage | May 12, 2008 at 3:28 pm
Please do not let this law pass. It’s hard enough already to earn a living in the arts. We don’t need any added burdens like this!
Bob Rummage
Professional musician/educator
1492. Dan Hardman | May 12, 2008 at 3:28 pm
any type of performance art should not be governed by the city, we as performers must take a stand, this can not pass we will not let it!
1493. Peter O | May 12, 2008 at 3:28 pm
We live in America where we have promised that those who work hard can make a life for themselves. We Can NOT allow this ordinance to pass as written, and therefore allow it to suffocate the great work of Chicago’s Artists. It is essential to the essence of any “Great” city to instead foster the culture of art, that which gives life to the concrete landscapes. More work needs to be done with the artistic community before such an ordinance even has a chance to go to vote.
1494. Graham | May 12, 2008 at 3:29 pm
This is extremely ridiculous.
Stop it.
1495. Paul Kapust | May 12, 2008 at 3:29 pm
I oppose this ordinance. What kind of BS is this.
1496. Josh Donelson | May 12, 2008 at 3:29 pm
Here we go again. The big wigs are finding more and more was to fuck everything up. If anyone from the NORTHWEST INDIANA area are seeing this comment you know cause this pairs with RDS GYM being closed down. This is just another way the government is trying to suck the money from those who try to do good. If this is passed then whats next? Soon enough people will have to pay a covert charge to go to church.
1497. Scott Mohan | May 12, 2008 at 3:29 pm
I am appalled that legislation like this would even make it all the way to a vote. This is a prime example of the corporate agenda masked by public safety considerations. This would accelerate the homogenization and corporatization of Chicago’s historical culture.
1498. Happy Dave | May 12, 2008 at 3:29 pm
Entertainment venues, Bars, clubs, halls and comedy clubs already have to have this licensing and insurance.
Requiring small promoters to be licensed and insured would be double taxation. The large PROMOTERS make money off of sponsering and organizing events but what the city counsel doesn’t seem to realize is that most promoters make nothing off of small local band, comedy and other arts exhibitions. This ordiance WOULD DESTROY a vital part of Chicago’s Rich and Vital Cultural and artistic Mecca. We need to move forward as a City devoted to inspiring and PROMOTING the arts not diminishing it’s spirit.
1499. Chris Bragg | May 12, 2008 at 3:30 pm
This ordinance would also prevent sketch comedy groups such as ourselves from ever being able to produce shows in the city…productions we hardly make any money on. It would completely kill the Chicago sketch comedy scene. For people like us to continue doing what we love, we would have to do it elsewhere. If you want to drive away thousands of improvisers, sketch comedy artists, musicians, and artists, this would be a way to do it.
1500. John | May 12, 2008 at 3:30 pm
PLEASE do not let this ill-thought nonsense become law! Some of us performers are highly dependent on this sort of minimal income. I do NOT want to see Chicago become a place without live music or theatre!
1501. Scott Turner | May 12, 2008 at 3:30 pm
who needs small clubs like the metro anyways – its not like theres much history there. and only a few bands played there on their way to becoming huge successes in the industry.
oh wait…..
1502. geoffwilliams | May 12, 2008 at 3:30 pm
This ordinance sounds like the stupidest idea ever to hit a major city like Chicago. I honestly cannot see such a large metropolitan area like Chicago, known for it’s arts/entertainment, ever passing such a ordinance. As a preforming artist myself (musician) not only would I rarely every be able to play again, but it would hurt me financially as well, not to mention those working at these venues and their paychecks. I fully oppose this bill as should you if you care about art, performance, entertainment, and what it’s like to live in a city.
1503. James Yearnd III | May 12, 2008 at 3:30 pm
Live music in this city is one of the things that makes this city livable. Why the hell would anyone move here if there wasn’t a music\cultural scene?
1504. Amber Drea | May 12, 2008 at 3:31 pm
Small shows and venues put on by DIY promoters, artists and musicians are what make Chicago culture so unique. This ordinance would destroy it!
1505. lenny | May 12, 2008 at 3:32 pm
this law could be seen to have good intentions yet will produce tragic results if enacted. is the overall purpose to prevent another E2 or to stop raves (which have all but disappeared) or just to put more money in the city’s coffers??? as an avid music fan, in an increasingly troubled economic climate, this law would not only limit my entertainment options, but it would also certainly curtail avenues and revenues for all who benefit from Chicago’s diverse cultural community. Before voting on this ordinance, the city needs to evaluate both the spirit of this law and the letter of it. while good intentions may have created this, the passing and execution of this law will most certainly harm Chicago’s standing as a world class city. as it stands this law needs to be voted down. a better alternative could probably be reached through a discourse with promoters, artists, and patrons. unfortunately that notion just may be too democratic!
1506. Evett | May 12, 2008 at 3:32 pm
This is beyond ridiculous. As someone that has lived in Chicago her whole life and is in the music scene, going to numerous concerts, promoting or soon writing my own music, it would be devastating to see Chicago’s music culture get almost completely destroyed. All these small music venues, concerts, and events are things that make me love Chicago. It would be a shame to have people in the near future not to be able to experience the creative and unique music scene Chicago has to offer. This proposition is a horrible idea and shouldn’t even be considered.
1507. Adam | May 12, 2008 at 3:32 pm
Speaking as someone who grew up in Chicago and around the music and theater scene, if passed, this would help destroy one of the greatest cities in the world. Let it not happen.
1508. Chicago Music | May 12, 2008 at 3:32 pm
Ward Offices By Zone (District)
Be Sure to call your Alderman to Propose this Bill.
WARD 1
Ward Website: http://www.flores1stward.com
• Ward Office: 2058 N. Western Ave.
Chicago, IL 60647
• Ward Phone: 773/278-0101
• E-Mail: ward01@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 300 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-3063
WARD 2
Ward Office: 429 S. Dearborn St.
Chicago, IL 60605
• Ward Phone: 312.263.9273
• E-Mail: Robert.Fioretti@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 300 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone:312-744-6836
WARD 3
Ward Office: 5046 S. State St.
Chicago, IL 60609
• Ward Phone: 773-373-9273
• E-Mail: Pat.Dowell@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 300 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-8734
WARD 4
Ward Office: 4659 S. Cottage Grove
Suite 203 Chicago, IL 60653
• Ward Phone: 773-536-8103
• E-Mail: tpreckwinkle@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 300 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-2690
SO FOURTH – SO ON
Ward Office: 1900 E. 71st Street
Chicago, IL 60649
• Ward Phone: 773-324-5555
• E-Mail: lhairston@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 300 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-6832
Ward Office: 406 E. 75th Street
Chicago, IL 60619
• Ward Website: http://www.6thwardalderman.com
• Ward Phone: 773-846-7006
• E-Mail: flyle@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 300 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-6868
Ward Office: 7129 S. Yates Blvd. Chicago, IL 60649
• Ward Phone: 773-375-9180
• E-Mail: Sandi.Jackson@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St. Room 300 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-6833
Ward Office: 8539 S. Cottage Grove
Chicago, IL 60619
• Ward Phone: 773-874-3300
• E-Mail: mharris@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 207 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-3075
Ward Office: 34 East 112th Place
Chicago, IL 60628
• Ward Phone: 773-785-1100
• E-Mail: abeale@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 300 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-6838
Ward Office: 3522 E. 106th Street
Chicago, IL 60617
• Ward Phone: 773-721-1999
• E-Mail: jpope@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 300 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-3078
1509. Kaitlynn Veno | May 12, 2008 at 3:33 pm
To see the way the city is treating the culture of Chicago absolutly disgusts me. I, myself, am very passionate about the Chicago culture and will not stand by and let it be run into the ground. The theatre and music are main reasons people come to Chicago. This ordinance is completly useless in doing any good for the city. People today thrive on the cultural roots more then ever before. Passing this ordinance would be like taking away the purpose for Chicago’s existance.
1510. Genevieve McCloskey | May 12, 2008 at 3:33 pm
As a native Chicagoan and live visual artist who appreciates the culture, diversity and vibrancy of the Chicago scene (both underground and mainstream), this new ordinance will SUPPRESS Chicago’s culture, music, artists, independent promoters, entrepreneurs, non-profits, small venues, etc., and it will DISCOURAGE non-Chicagoan artists, musicians, etc from coming to our city. As a live artist, I realize that most of the events I took part in over the past couple years could not have occurred if this ordinance was in place. The fact that large venues are exempt is disgusting and shows exactly who this ordinance is targeting.
DON’T SUPPRESS CHICAGO CULTURE! WE WILL NOT STAND FOR THIS!
1511. Sara Mizener | May 12, 2008 at 3:33 pm
Live music is vital to Chicago!!! We have one of the best music scene—lets keep it that way
1512. joshua anderson | May 12, 2008 at 3:33 pm
to pass this type of ordiance is wrong and to do it with out public notice is treason on the people of chicago and the world! STOP THIS ORDIANCE FROM HAPPENING…JOSHUA ANDERSON
1513. Adam Welker | May 12, 2008 at 3:33 pm
I just moved to Chicago and would love to keep the small venues alive. Please don’t hurt the venues for helping out young artists.
1514. Jackie Kleck | May 12, 2008 at 3:33 pm
What a terrible proposition in the name of revenue. It would be nice to see all of the arts promoted to the hilt and the other issues such as overcrowding and such dealt with directly. It would be devasting to silence any community’s local music (arts) scene.
1515. Gabe McIntosh | May 12, 2008 at 3:33 pm
This horrible and a good way to ruin a city for travelers and the people who live here.
1516. Pamela Leonard | May 12, 2008 at 3:34 pm
Art is like Music, it is a must have especially here in Chi-town USA
1517. Nick McLenighan | May 12, 2008 at 3:34 pm
Im firmly apposed to this, not so much for those big name promoters and venues who can cover the costs, but for every small timer who is trying to get something done on his or her own. I also fear that something like this ordinance could lead to a hindrance of First Amendment rights, as well as general censorship. Other than those who cannot pay, who is going to be denied rights to promote/organize events? This ordinance is far to unclear, and possibly damaging to many peoples livelyhoods.
1518. Kerensa Peterson | May 12, 2008 at 3:34 pm
I love in Richard Mell’s district. I can’t believe he would support such a thing. Please add my name to the petition. Do not create an environment that makes it even more difficult to produce theatre than it already is by passing this bill into law.
1519. Chris Hollingsworth | May 12, 2008 at 3:34 pm
Being an artist, seeing the venues practically shut down would be a terrible thing to my fellow artists. If you close the venues, where will they express there form of art.
How many local Chicago bands got a chance to make it big because they played at the small venues that you are trying to essentially close. Most all bands that came out of chicago have played at at least The Metro, Beat Kitchen, Schubas, Double Door or Subterranean, if not all of them.
Passing this bill would be a terrible mistake and would kill the underground music scene in Chicago
1520. Rebecca Faber | May 12, 2008 at 3:34 pm
Please dont pass this!
1521. Marcus Turnbo | May 12, 2008 at 3:35 pm
As someone who is a part of Chicago’s music scene, I am glad that I was made aware of this prohibitive measure. We have to ensure that artistic endeavors are not stifled to the point where the only entertainment we are allowed to consume comes from corporations.
1522. Tango Karnitz | May 12, 2008 at 3:35 pm
Please don’t enact a ‘knee-jerk’ ordinance that will put the little man down, and expemt the establishment. Chicago needs to have venues for all audiences, and all sizes.
1523. Kevin White | May 12, 2008 at 3:35 pm
I don’t even live in Chicago and I don’t want this to happen! I am a comedian from St. Louis, MO and I rely on smaller venues to further my career when on the road. Chicago is one of the best cities in the country for entertainment and passing this law would only stifle that. Chicago, you’re better than this.
1524. Miles Arnay | May 12, 2008 at 3:36 pm
This is a devestating blow to the arts in Chicago just waiting to happen. Please, please reconsider.
1525. Gabe Levinson | May 12, 2008 at 3:36 pm
In addition, why are events promoted at venues with a fixed seating capacity of greater than 500 exempt? I have looked into producing and promoting shows at the Auditorium Theatre and the Chicago Theatre. I could never afford to produce a show there…so why is it that those who DO have the money to produce and promote shows at such large-scale venues are NOT held to this ordinance? Somehow the big fish, those with the funds to meet the requirements of this ordinance, are exempt. I find this exemption questionable.
1526. Dan Hopper | May 12, 2008 at 3:36 pm
I am not from Chicago, but my band has performed at several Chicago area venues throughout the past 7 years. It is a HUGE MISTAKE to pass this law.
Let me put it this way.
1) Do you want people to move away from Chicago because there is “Nothing to do”?
2) Do you want people – kids, teens, adults, etc… to turn to other forms of entertainment that may be destructive?
3) Do you want people involved in the arts to lose money, lose thier jobs, or lose there livelyhood so there are more people destitute and living on the streets?
4) Do you want people to turn to drugs, alcohol, violence, and other things because they have nothing to turn to for hope (music gives hope to a ton of people who have no hope)…
I could go on, but hopefully you get the picture. The people of Chicago need the arts, and the arts need them. Not only that, but passing this law would be technically unconstitutional because it would eliminate freedom of expression because such freedom would be unaffordable.
Bottom line, Chicago will screw itself by passing this law. Please, let your voice be heard people. There is power in numbers!! Please dont let a council of uninformed, uncaring, power-hungry douchebags ruin the arts in Chicago. Thats my two cents.
1527. Adam Harvey | May 12, 2008 at 3:37 pm
Although I live in Cleveland, I’ve been going to venues like the Double Door in Chicago for years. A friend of mine had his DIY venue shut down for similar reasons to the ordinance that Chicago is contemplating. Don’t do it! You’ll be doing more to destroy the excellent music culture that Chicago is renowned for by passing that ordinance than serving any other perceived civic need.
1528. Chicago Music | May 12, 2008 at 3:37 pm
WARD 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17.
I would suggest someone with good writing skills collect all the email address(s) from the last couple ward postings and send a bulk email to all of them to propose the ordinance.
Ward Office: 3659 S. Halsted St.
Chicago, IL 60609
• Ward Phone: 773-254-6677
• E-Mail: jbalcer@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 203 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-6663
• Ward Office: 2458 W. 38th St.
Chicago, IL 60632
• Ward Website: http://www.12thwardnews.com
• Ward Phone: 773/523-8250
• Ward Fax: 773/523-8440
• E-Mail: ward12@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 203 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-3040
• Ward Office: 6500 S. Pulaski Rd.
Chicago, IL s60629
• Ward Phone: 773-581-8000
• E-Mail: folivo@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 203 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-3076
• Ward Office: 2650 W. 51st Street
Chicago, IL 60632
• Ward Phone: 773-471-1414
• E-Mail: eburke@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 302 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-3380
• Ward Office: 3045 W. 63rd St.
Chicago, IL 60629
• Ward Phone: 773-863-0220
• E-Mail: Toni.Foulkes@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 203 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-6850
• Ward Office: 5335 S. Western Blvd.
Chicago, IL 60609
• Ward Phone: 773-434-3399
• Ward Fax:: 773-434-3889
• E-Mail: JoAnn.Thompson@cityofchicago.org
• Ciity Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 300 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-3069
• Ward Office: 7811 S. Racine Ave.
Chicago, IL 60620
• Ward Phone: 773-723-0908
• E-Mail: lrthomas@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 300 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-7738
• Ward Office: 8146 S. Kedzie
Chicago, IL 60652
• Ward Website:
City Of Chicago Website – 18th Ward
• Ward Phone: 773/471-1991
• E-Mail: ward18@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 300 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-6856
1529. TJ Kren | May 12, 2008 at 3:37 pm
Chicago underground is nothing without the metro, and the beat kitchen. please don’t pass this bill.
1530. Lisa | May 12, 2008 at 3:37 pm
This is ridiculous! This cannot pass. Think of all the smaller named bands who won’t be able to book shows! They don’t have the kind of money to book at huge arenas. They make their living playing shows at The Metro etc.
If this passes, so much new young talent will go to waste because they can’t get shows!
So much amazing talent has come out of Chicago, we cannot let that stop!
1531. Brian Niebuhr | May 12, 2008 at 3:38 pm
this legislation would effectively end the arts as ‘small business’ entities – why?! all this ordinance would create is pay-to-play on a large, corporate-type scale, wiping us smaller-time musicians off the map. and we want to host the olympics, with no vibrant, homegrown arts scene? our olympic competitors wouldn’t dream of doing someting like this! it’s unthinkable and unenforceable. i guess the olympic money has to come from somewhere – the people who can afford to spend it the least, as the case always seems to be.
if you take the arts as seriously as you say you do, mayor daley, you’d see this legislation for what it is – a cash-grab. those who break the law vis a vis concert promotion will CONTINUE to do so anyways.
1532. annika s | May 12, 2008 at 3:38 pm
This ordinance is an insult to a city that has a long history of DIY culture, which in turn is rooted in a strong work ethic. This ordinance certainly won’t kill that, but it will make it unnecessarily difficult and risky to uphold tradition.
1533. Vince Bautista | May 12, 2008 at 3:38 pm
Please don’t pass this ordinance without giving opportunity to public discussion as to the merit and demerit of this ordinance.
There are other venues to look at for sources of revenues for the city of Chicago. If you pass this ordinance outright I will not forget you come election day.
1534. Laura M. Blommaert | May 12, 2008 at 3:38 pm
I strongly appose this ordinance! This will greatly stifle Chicago’s artistic community and the draw of the city. In the long run I strongly believe the city will not benefit from this ordinance and that money that is vital to local businesses will be lost! DO NOT PASS THIS BILL!!!
1535. Paul Fleishman | May 12, 2008 at 3:39 pm
As a music fan in Chicago, I believe this ordinance would have a negative effect on venues, artists and others who support live music in the city. I oppose this legislation. Thank you.
1536. Ben Muller | May 12, 2008 at 3:39 pm
Small theatre companies are the bread and butter of aspiring Chicago actors like myself. This law would severely hamper the ability of actors in this city to find work.
the small-time arts scene may not make as much money as Wicked, but it attracts many people to this citym and shows that Chicago is more than just a capital of industry. Should an ordinance be passed that robs Chicago of its soul?
It is stupid. That is all.
1537. Dave | May 12, 2008 at 3:39 pm
This is a bad idea.
1538. Tara | May 12, 2008 at 3:39 pm
Very sad. I love going to see independent productions and would hate to see them stop or reduce in number due to this ordinance!
1539. soce | May 12, 2008 at 3:39 pm
I am a touring comedian from NYC, and I just had the honor of performing at a wonderful comedy show in Chicago. I am just starting out, so I’m not quite able to fill 500+ seat auditoriums yet.
If promoters are forced to pay heavy fees for small shows, then they will no longer be able to put on these shows, and beginning artists will no longer bother stopping by Chicago on their tours.
I don’t understand what the city has to gain from this. I do see that they will have a lot to lose. Ultimately, all of the artists will be forced to travel elsewhere to perform their craft.
Gone will be the excitement and innovation, to be replaced with more bland Britney Spears and Creed clones. Yay?
Chicago has a truly amazing performance scene. Please do not destroy it.
1540. Miriam Sturm & Patrick Fleming | May 12, 2008 at 3:40 pm
This ordinance would be disastrous for any arts or live performances in Chicago. In an already diminished “scene” (from days-gone-by), this would be the deathknell. What short-sightedness on the part of the politicos, too! Their cherished “tourism” would suffer greatly with the disappearance of numerous music, theatre, other options to offer to visitors. We won’t be a great city any longer, just another hell-hole— with long winters, poor parking and miserable traffic tie-ups. We’ll be bereft of anything we can point to with pride, and attend with a desire to expand our minds, our souls, our imaginations… It would eventually be the kind of deterioration that will drive the best of our City’s Creative Community out of town, heading for less oppressive areas. Please don’t let this go through.
1541. Francis Veraldi | May 12, 2008 at 3:40 pm
This is a horrible notion and is just why this country broke away from the British to begin with. I am a local musician and feel that this ordinace would squash the Chicago music scene and many of my own performances. Add my name to the petition please.
1542. Brad M | May 12, 2008 at 3:40 pm
It is difficult enough for striving musicians to find a place to perform and express themselves. They have a hard time finding the money to put together a show,and they make little money as it is.To require such high fees for performing at small venues is unnecessary.Most musicians are not troublemakers,why make it so hard for them?I do not see the necessity of this ordinance.Maybe a small percent of venues have problems of violence,etc.
1543. Derrick Pawlak | May 12, 2008 at 3:40 pm
This is ridiculous and will end up hurting our city.
1544. Stephanie Gostele | May 12, 2008 at 3:40 pm
This ordinance is the exact opposite of why I love Chicago.
1545. Tiffany S | May 12, 2008 at 3:40 pm
Please don’t stop the music! Keep Chicago a friend to the arts!
DO NOT LET THIS HAPPEN!!!
1546. Jessica Porter | May 12, 2008 at 3:40 pm
just one question….why! it would totally suck if they passed this =(
1547. Kendra | May 12, 2008 at 3:41 pm
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1548. Emily Faith Cook | May 12, 2008 at 3:41 pm
The foundation of any thriving culture or community is in its music, art and food. Any good Chicagoan, including its politicians, can attest to that being paramount in this great city. We’re a city based on small-venue blues, jazz, rock and hip-hop; on independent art galleries and movie houses; on small forward-thinking restaurants. We’re a city based on freedom of expression no matter what the insurance policy of the venue is. Please, City of Chicago, don’t take away our musicians right to rock, or you’ll be taking away a large part of what it means to be a Chicagoan!
1549. Ron Langford - KeyDragon | May 12, 2008 at 3:41 pm
Come on! You’ve got to be kidding! Don’t let it happen!
Rage On,
KeyDragon
1550. Dylan | May 12, 2008 at 3:42 pm
This proposed ordinance, is amazing— in a really bad way. I’m shocked that a government would be so vehemently behind something so destructive to such a huge part of the city’s personality and business. Sounds like there’s something much more sinister behind this all.
http://punchlinemagazine.com/blog/?p=1008
1551. Erik Freitag | May 12, 2008 at 3:42 pm
This is nothing short of an atrocity. I am a promoter in the Twin Ports area (Duluth/Superior), as well as a member of a band and editor-in-chief of my own magazine. The gigs I’ve played in Chicago (Thirsty Whale, Smiler Coogan’s, The Vic) have been great and I look forward to playing Chicago again over the summer.
I hope like hell this ordinance does not pass.
1552. Bridget Carey | May 12, 2008 at 3:42 pm
I am moving back to Chicago from St. Louis this weekend specifically to get back into the theatre scene. Although shows like “Jersey Boys” and “Wicked” are important to Chicago (and an obvious money maker) there is NO WAY that we should not have the opportunity to see smaller shows at smaller venues. I have always noticed that the smaller the show, the more dedicated everyone is to make sure it happens. From the actors and directors to the crews and designers and everyone in between. Because of this, you get a finished product that may not have all the glitz and glam as “Wicked”, but you get theatre at its best. Please don’t take away the GOOD theatre in Chicago.
1553. Gia J. | May 12, 2008 at 3:42 pm
This is ridiculous!!!
1554. Ryan Plaza | May 12, 2008 at 3:43 pm
this will surely stifle the culture and beauty of chicago. its sad to think there is actually a group of people that feel this action will better a society.
1555. Hannah | May 12, 2008 at 3:43 pm
An ordinance like that is completely ridiculous!
Are they trying to put down our creativity and imagination?!
To shatter our dreams of preforming in front of an audience in chicago?
Yeah, well, let’s put they’re dreams of ruining ours down.
Screw this ordinance.
SAVE CHICAGO CULTURE!
1556. Chicago Music | May 12, 2008 at 3:43 pm
Ward 19,20,21,22,23,24,25 so fourth.
• Ward Office: 10444 S. Western Ave.
Chicago, IL 60643
• Ward Phone: 773-238-8766
• Fax: 773-238-9049
• E-Mail: vrugai@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 300 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-3072
• Ward Office: 6357 S. Cottage Grove
Chicago, IL 60637
• Ward Phone: 773/955-5610
• Ward Fax: 773/955-5612
• E-Mail: Willie.Cochran@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 300 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-6840
• Ward Office: 9612 S. Halsted
Chicago, IL 60628
• Ward Phone: 773/881-9300
• Ward Fax: 773/881-9383
• E-Mail: ward21@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 300 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-4810
• Ward Office: 2500 S. St Louis
Chicago, IL 60623
• Ward Phone: 773-762-1771
• E-Mail: rmunoz@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 300 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-9491
• Ward Office: 6247 S. Archer Ave.
Chicago, IL 60638
• Ward Phone: 773-582-4444
• E-Mail: mzalewski@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 203 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-6828
• Ward Office: 2100 S. Marshall Blvd.,
Ste. 801 Chicago, IL 60623
• Ward Phone: 773-522-2430
• E-Mail: Sharon.Dixon@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-6839
• Ward Office: 2439 S. Oakley St.
Chicago, IL 60608
• Ward Phone: 312-843-1200
• E-Mail: dsolis@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 203 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-6845
• Ward Office: 3236 W. Division
Chicago, IL 60651
• Ward Phone: 773-276-4269
• E-Mail: bocasio@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 300Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-6853
• Ward Office: 1463 W. Chicago Avenue
Chicago, IL 60622
• Ward Phone: 312-432-1995
• E-Mail: wburnett@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. La Salle Street
Room 203 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-6124
• Ward Office: 118 N. Pulaski Road
Chicago, IL 60624
• Ward Phone: 773-533-0900
• Ward Fax: 773-533-6199
• E-Mail: ehsmith@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 203 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-3066
• Ward Office: 5937 West Madison Avenue
Chicago, Il 60644
• Ward Phone: 773-261-4646
• E-Mail: icarothers@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 203 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-3070
• Ward Office: 3348 N. Milwaukee Ave.
Chicago, IL
• Ward Website: http://www.reboyras.com
• Ward Phone: 773/794-3095
• E-Mail: ward30@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 203 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-3304
1557. Michael Krause | May 12, 2008 at 3:43 pm
This is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard . Chicagos music scene is what sets us apart from most cities, including NY. All I live for at this point is going to clubs and seeing music and the undeground artists. Anyway the city can get money I guess?!. I’ts truly disturbing whats going on in terms of how chicago government views real culture at a grass roots level in this city.
,thanks alot !! I cannot be more disturbed by the direction this city is going , this is just another example.
1558. Andrew Scott | May 12, 2008 at 3:44 pm
please do not pass this bill
1559. Cali Olivares | May 12, 2008 at 3:44 pm
I oppose this ordinance and it’s far-reaching implications for free speech.
1560. Meg McGrath | May 12, 2008 at 3:44 pm
This would take away that special something that I so look forward to when I go into the city!
1561. Jessica | May 12, 2008 at 3:44 pm
I just bought a condo near the Metro and was so excited about seeing more shows there… please don’t ruin this for me and everyone else who loves Chicago’s music scene.
1562. Dave rudolf | May 12, 2008 at 3:44 pm
I hope the alderman come to their senses and that it’s not just an attempt to generate more income for the city at the expense of the artists and supporters of the arts. You can be penny wise and pound foolish. Tourism would be just one of the areas effected by losing venues, artists, and culture in this great city…The chain of disasterous effects to the vibrant cultural community would be staggering. Don’t let this happen to Chicago
1563. Ryan King | May 12, 2008 at 3:45 pm
Chicago City Council….please do not pass this Event Promoter’s ordinance…you will be helping the world become less creative, by limiting chicago’s creativity that can affect the rest of the world, because chicago is known to be one of the most creative places to visit for good wide varieties of music….i mean i would be more likely to go to Chicago for live music over New York, please do not take that away from us….Bands nad promoter’s and bar owners already don’t make enough money for what they do, and if this ordinance is passed that is basically gonna make it impossible for some people to do what they love…..keep the scene alive and please do not pass this ordinance….this is very serious buisiness…we are not all rich in this world, think about the ones who aren’t..love,
Ryan King
1564. Molly Levine | May 12, 2008 at 3:45 pm
If this ordinance passes, I am sorry to say I will not be taking as many trips to Chicago as I do now. If it passes, Chicago will lose business to all the surrounding neighborhoods such as Schaumburg, Rockford, and Wisconsin. Why would the city want to put their entrepreneurs/business owners at risk? Wouldn’t they just lose more taxes that way? If people are not going to go to the clubs/events that offer this music, they will not generate revenue thus not generate money for taxes. It’s a shame that the city of Chicago is even considering this move.
1565. Andrea Kessler | May 12, 2008 at 3:45 pm
Please do not pass this ordinance. This would be an embarrassment to Chicago’s reputation as a world class city, at the very LEAST!
1566. Bahar Partow | May 12, 2008 at 3:46 pm
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1567. Eric Behnen | May 12, 2008 at 3:46 pm
Being a citizen of Chicago for 20 years. I could not imagine the city without the influence of music. Having this taken away would be crazy.
1568. Jason | May 12, 2008 at 3:46 pm
If leaving a comment doesn’t count as signing the petition, please add my name.
1569. Mark Kater | May 12, 2008 at 3:47 pm
Art, Theater, Music, Dance… The expressive arts are all about the individual or small group being able to get out before the public and express theimselves. Street corners, small venues and free concerts. Experimentation, trial and error. Paint Sound Movement Word…….
The arts have already been budgeted out of our school systems. Just when we should be adding more opportunities for creative thinking and expression, along comes an attempt to reign things in even more. This act of regulation is a fascist step. I hate to use that word when it comes to Chicago. A place that has been nurturing and central to development of many kinds of art and performances.
Even the attempt to regulate the arts is backward thinking. Think of ways to free up the individual not to put them in a small box that only MONEY can free………
1570. Jarod | May 12, 2008 at 3:47 pm
Venues are already required to carry proper coverage, and current regulation of the PPA licenses regulate safety and security guidelines… Wouldn’t this be a double payment for the same thing?
I’m not even going to go in to how smaller music venues and smaller artists will survive.
All this will end up doing is pushing the talent and promoters OUT of Chicago.
1571. Scott Fischer | May 12, 2008 at 3:47 pm
This concerns me greatly. I’ve already felt that Chicago needs to make changes in order to improve our performance events. This looks as though it will send us back even further in progress – please do something about this!
1572. Julee Mathena | May 12, 2008 at 3:47 pm
I would like to express my displeasure the proposed promoter’s ordinance that is being brought before City Counsel on Wednesday. While I understand the need for regulation, I feel the proposed ordinance is going too far and making it next to impossible for the smaller promoters that are the life and blood of the music scene in Chicago to continue here. As someone who attends 5-10 live music events a month (often with friends visiting from out of town for the shows), I can say that more than half of these are put on by independent promoters. If this ordinance passes, it would be a huge blow to the thriving music scene of Chicago and will change the cultural landscape as we know it. I am a resident of Ward 47 and have written a letter to Alderman Schulter urging him to reconsider his stance on this.
1573. Janay Joyce | May 12, 2008 at 3:47 pm
I am saddened and outraged by the possibility of the passing of this ordinance! I ask all those with the power to make this decision to listen to the voices of your constituents and VOTE NO on the “Event Promoter’s” ordinance!!
Peace and play on,
Janay Joyce, Social Worker and music lover,
1574. Dennise | May 12, 2008 at 3:47 pm
To deny people of its own culture is inhuman! If you’re goal is to rob this historical city of the small independent charms that make it unique, then this is definitely the way to do it.
And you want the Olympics to be held here? Please, all the other cities we are competing with know exactly why culture is so important and that is why we will not be chosen, because of greedy money grabbing idiots who call themselves leaders!
Wise up and realize that you are making a huge mistake!
You are destroying this great city!
1575. Nikki Weiss | May 12, 2008 at 3:47 pm
Though I do not currently live in Chicago, I make many trips over the course of the year to Chicago specifically for it’s smaller live music venues. Adding an ordinance like this will do nothing but eliminate the ability of these smaller venues to host the shows that they do. This is a truly ironic ordinance, considering Chicago is a city that appears to pride itself on it’s cultural atmosphere.
Please do not allow this to pass. With these smaller venues being one of the main reasons why so many of our trips are planned in Chicago, this may force us to consider a new destination. Is the loss in revenue from tourism really worth it?
1576. Brett Borden | May 12, 2008 at 3:48 pm
This law is ridiculous and must be prevented from going into effect.
1577. Vincent Iwinski | May 12, 2008 at 3:48 pm
I have been in the music business in this great city for over 10 years planning shows for my group Umphrey’s McGee from Schuba’s and Martyrs’ up through the Chicago Theater and The Aragon Ballroom. Recently I helped bring the Green Apple Festival to Chicago in 2007 and 2008, the biggest Earth Day celebration in the country. I was happy to help bring an event to Chicago that makes a difference because I believe in this city, I believe in Chicago’s strong sense of culture and support of the arts. This ordinance WILL weaken Chicago’s music and arts, and I cannot in good conscious stand by while this happens. PLEASE DO NOT ALLOW THIS ORDINANCE TO PASS.
1578. Rachele Wilken | May 12, 2008 at 3:48 pm
This is the most ridiculous thing I’ve heard in a long time? Some of the best shows are held at the small venues! How can you stifle creativity?
1579. Joe Connors | May 12, 2008 at 3:48 pm
They wont do this. It would be a big mistake. The question is “What are they trying to achieve by giving this threat?”
1580. Barb Lhota | May 12, 2008 at 3:49 pm
I don’t agree with this, and do not understand why this would not be more visible. If there is reasoning around this, let it be debated and discussed and let proper amount of media attention to the matter.
1581. Sam | May 12, 2008 at 3:49 pm
This ordinance threatens to destroy everything that makes Chicago a nurturing, progressive mecca for both commercial and non-commercial artists. Additionally, its ramifications on for the local economy would be devastating, sending much-needed business to surrounding areas.
1582. Darlene | May 12, 2008 at 3:50 pm
This ordinance is too broad and sweeping and lets off the hook those “connected” venues and sends the little guy into their pockets deeper and deeper. I cannot believe this proposal has made it this far! Mayor’s office you are dead wrong on this one. Please consider re-investigating the options. As an answer to the E2 tragedy, this response is a non sequitur. Surely you can do better as in more just, more effective–or better yet, stop over-governing and respond to things as necessary. On this one, you’re just doing too much.
1583. Jason V West | May 12, 2008 at 3:50 pm
it is difficult to understand why the city of Chicago would want to step on the cape of its own high flying cultural scene. what does the city hope to gain by crippling the local musicians and supporters of the arts. as an artist and a citizen i feel victimized by the same government i pay (through the teeth) to support me and enrich my life. i assure you that if this bill passes not only will the arts be dealt a terrible blow but also the quality of life of its people. tourism will dwindle, small businesses will fail, and the life blood of our world class city will be drained.
1584. Steve Casazza Jr. | May 12, 2008 at 3:50 pm
It is a venue’s job to get a licence and to abide by safety regulations. Promotion is simply trying to have our art heard and seen by as many people possable. Leaving it up to big business (which is what this law is trying to do) will steralize the enormous creativity that thrives in this city.
1585. Jeff Hall | May 12, 2008 at 3:50 pm
If this goes through all we’ll have left is TicketBastard? No thanks. With out the smaller venues the City of Chicago will not be getting my money from concert ticket, dinner, parking etc. And I am sure it will keep away many others looking for that small and intimate venue. How is an up and coming performer or small theater going to make it with this ridiculous bill? This bill only hurts Chicago as “the place to be”
Jeff Hall
1586. Kelly Guarnieri | May 12, 2008 at 3:50 pm
To our aldermen and women:
Please do not pass into law any bill that would require promoters or managers of musicians to pay fees and obtain insurance in connection with performances at small-to-mid-sized venues, at least any bill containing a broad definition of “promoter” or “manager.” Surely the insurance required of the owners of each venue covers the risks of such shows. If this proposal was prompted by tragedies at local venues whose victims were not adequately compensated because of insufficient insurance limits, please consider another approach. Small bands and solo artists, who usually promote and manage themselves, cannot necessarily afford the premium for (nor will they be able to obtain) such insurance. The result of these financial and liability requirements, then, is the stifling of the music scene in this city by the loss of many bands and solo artists who presently help give Chicago its life.
Please vote against the bill to be discussed (or voted upon) this week. Thank you.
1587. Lauren Schloemer | May 12, 2008 at 3:50 pm
I cannot comprehend how a bill like this can even be passed. There is too much talent in Chicago and also too much talent which flocks to Chicago for the notorious music scene. I understand the Smoking Ban however, this music ‘ban’ /license ordinance is too intrusive. Our culture and art willl disintegrate because of this bogus law. Please do NOT pass this ordinance.
1588. Mike | May 12, 2008 at 3:51 pm
Music has been in Chicago forever, this cannot pass. Music is away of expression, it has many life styles, it shows character, and theres so much talent in it. They can’t just shut it down and take away our freedom of expression
1589. Nate Meyers | May 12, 2008 at 3:51 pm
The City Council MUST VOTE NO on this ordinance. The underground music scene, not to mention the underground Comedy scene would be killed by this ordinance. These small venues are truly the best stages in this City. They are the life blood of creativity in this City. If this ordinance passes, it will be the death of unquantifiable amounts of enjoyment. I cannot even fathom Tuesdays without Comedy at the Beat Kitchen or no Thursday or Friday shows at the Lincoln Lodge, not to mention the absence of venues like the Metro.
VOTE NO ON THIS ORDINANCE!
1590. Brian Ekerman | May 12, 2008 at 3:51 pm
This proposed ordinance will hinder Chicago’s thriving music and arts scene, and will certainly cause more harm, confusion, and lost revenue then any potential upside it may have. As both a business owner and dancer who learned everything I know about the entertainment business from such events and promoters the city is trying to stifle, I for one cant attest to the fact that if these roadblocks were in place in my younger days, I wouldn’t be in the place I was today.
This hurts our cultural integrity, as well as the small business owner. Both of which are major components in what makes Chicago so great.
Brian Ekerman
Executive Director
Breakdance Chicago Inc.
1591. scott g | May 12, 2008 at 3:51 pm
disapprove…. this cannot happen!
1592. Andrew Christensen | May 12, 2008 at 3:52 pm
This makes me really glum. I am having trouble believing this is not a joke. Please add my name to the petition against this ludicrous proposal. What happened to the Lounge Ax was shameful enough. Let’s not let it happen to all the other cool venues in town!
1593. Catie | May 12, 2008 at 3:52 pm
Don’t kill the scene, don’t disrupt the culture.
1594. Emerald | May 12, 2008 at 3:53 pm
Add my name to the petition. Save the local music scene, its how most of the big artists today got their start.
1595. Kristie Alshaibi | May 12, 2008 at 3:53 pm
This ordinance could effectively kill the independent arts community’s ability to showcase emerging artists , musicians, and performers, or effectively force the artists to put on illegal events! I cannot see how this could benefit anyone but big corporate interests.
Please, stop the homogenization of our city!
1596. Jose Sanchez | May 12, 2008 at 3:53 pm
This ordinance is ridiculous.
1597. Kristen Belcher | May 12, 2008 at 3:53 pm
I am appalled that this ordinance could become a law. What makes Chicago great is it’s diversity when it comes to the arts. To limit that diversity in any way is a travesty. I strongly urge our councilmen to oppose this ordinance.
1598. Sarah H. | May 12, 2008 at 3:53 pm
I don’t even understand what this law would do in terms of safety and organization. Instead, its just limiting the freedom for people to perform. If there was a legit reason that this law was being passed, i might be able to empathize, but i just dont see it. This is just going to ruin the chicago culture for so many people who live in or near the city for the culture itself.
1599. Todd O | May 12, 2008 at 3:53 pm
sounds like a law trying to be passed by people who don’t really understand music promoting….
1600. Brian Citro | May 12, 2008 at 3:54 pm
This ordinance is unecessarily overinclusive. If enforced, it has the potential of stiffling a large part of the vibrant Chicago music scene. This portion of Chicago’s music community is not only inherently valuable but it is a feeder for the more well established venues in the city. Moreover, it is a large reason why many young people choose to live in this city and pariticpate in the local economy in the first place.
It is a BAD idea. It will prey on a community that is likely not well enough organized or financially prosperous to counteract the special interests that the ordinance is ostensibly written to pander to.
1601. Talia Frasin | May 12, 2008 at 3:54 pm
Don’t pass this ordinance.
Art should not be made so difficult to share.
1602. kati | May 12, 2008 at 3:54 pm
i have been going to small local shows in chicago for many years, if this ordinance is passed future generations will miss out on what is one of the greatest things that defines the city of chicago, it’s arts, entertainment and culture.
this “law” should not be passed. there are many people who are in small bands, local or otherwise, or theatrical troops who go to smaller venues because it is easier to book and easier on the wallet so that they can book events in other areas.
if this ordinance passes and becomes a law, the arts, enterainment and culture will disintergrate into a ghost of what one of the greater aspects of chicago used to be.
do not pass this ordinance, it will effect many more people than what is expected.
1603. Mike Mabi | May 12, 2008 at 3:54 pm
On top of the raising of the real estate transfer tax, the upcoming highest sales tax, and the highest gas prices in the country, now this? Thanks for helping out the community during a recession.
The definition of promoter is loosely defined, but the company I work for is an event marketing company and media outlet. Do ad agencies, charities, or private catering companies have to get insurance? They shouldn’t have to and neither should ‘Promoters.’
Chicago has larger issues to take on rather than regulating our music scene. Smaller promoters usually lose money, so the city wants us to make sure we lose money?
From my experience the last 6 years, properly run venues prevent disasters. The Chicago Music Community shouldn’t have to pay for mistakes made by one poor venue and promoter combination.
1604. Jordan Stephens | May 12, 2008 at 3:54 pm
chicago, ive never seen you. but im working on it. dont be an idiot. this sounds like something corpus christi, tx would do. do you really want to be compared to a city like that? thats what youre going to end up looking like–a cultural wasteland. you idiot.
–jordan stephens
1605. Brett Miotti | May 12, 2008 at 3:54 pm
I don’t think any good can come of this. As a former Chicago resident and someone who looks forward to traveling back to the city at least twice a year (partly for the sake of taking in musical events at venues like Metro, Schuba’s, etc,) this is very troubling. Please keep Chicago an interesting and diverse city. Please allow new kinds of music to flourish in the clubs of Chicago.
1606. Allen | May 12, 2008 at 3:55 pm
This ordinance takes the cake. If this were a few weeks earlier I’d swear it was an April Fool’s gag. Keep giving the finger to working musicians, actors, and other creative forces in our community and you will be well on your way to turning our city into another dying Midwestern Behemoth.
1607. Janay Joyce | May 12, 2008 at 3:55 pm
Add my name to the petition! I am saddened and outraged!
peace and play on,
Janay
1608. reid sanders | May 12, 2008 at 3:55 pm
this is complete bull. we can not let this happen!
1609. Ramiro Castro | May 12, 2008 at 3:56 pm
I am unsure as to the reason for this ordinance. If it is to raise revenues, the cost to the local entertainment providers seems very high to me. I ask that the legislators review the repercussions of this bill and the effect it will have on small but important “event planning” organizations that make Chicago unique.
1610. Alisha Broniec | May 12, 2008 at 3:56 pm
This ordinance is a terrible idea, as it would completely erase the smaller venue local arts scene.
1611. Chris Chevrie | May 12, 2008 at 3:56 pm
I am in opposition of this ordinance. Please allow creativity to prevail in Chicago.
1612. Micah Topping | May 12, 2008 at 3:56 pm
I can’t imagine that the revenue generated by requiring these fees and licenses will outweigh the negative impact on tourism and venue revenue. It is important for the people of Chicago to be able to express themselves spontaneously, and this stifles that.
Please do not pass this ordinance.
1613. Jessica Gelfand | May 12, 2008 at 3:57 pm
This is ridiculous.
Passing this ordinance will only hurt the city, not help it.
For the sake of art and expression, I hope this does not become a law.
1614. William | May 12, 2008 at 3:57 pm
This is just sad. I hope the city council comes to its senses before this bill is passed. But hey, I’m sure someone stands to get rich(er) from this bill, otherwise it wouldn’t have even gotten this far.
1615. Amanda Aksamit | May 12, 2008 at 3:57 pm
As someone who grew up in Chicago, my adolescence was formed by the time I spent at concert venues, both large and small. I’ve since moved out of state and I now realize how specific a culture the Chicago music scene is and believe that it is something to be preserved. It was an honor to be a part of it and I remember it fondly. The comradery I encountered with total strangers at the Metro and Vic is a feeling I have yet to encounter with any other group of individuals and I doubt I ever will. It pains me to think that, in the future, kids may be unable to experience the same things I did because of this bill.
1616. Emily | May 12, 2008 at 3:58 pm
I cannot believe this. This bill cannot pass! Chicago is built on the culture of its artists. This bill will strip the town of it’s music and theatre. I cannot see how this will do anything but create confusion, lack of revenue ( which the city loves) and a severe backlash from all involved.
1617. Jason West | May 12, 2008 at 3:58 pm
what does the City of Chicago hope to gain from crippling itself culturally? Venues are already required to carry proper coverage, and current regulation of the PPA licenses regulate safety and security guidelines. This be a double payment for the same thing?
Small businesses like smaller music, comedy and theater venues will be crushed. Smaller artists will not survive and the goods and services they provide as well as consume will also die.
All this will end up doing is pushing the talent and promoters OUT of Chicago. That will cripple our cultural scene and that will cost us citizens our quality of life and the government a great deal of money.
1618. Richard Lee | May 12, 2008 at 3:58 pm
Stop the ordinance. Can’t let idiots that are scared of the young people doing something different from the so called “normal” society.
1619. Colene Pientok | May 12, 2008 at 4:00 pm
Why would you take such a creative outlet out of an extremely creative city. Bands that make an impact on people don’t come from ludicrous shows such as american idol, they come from wonderful towns such as Chicago.
1620. Art Karman | May 12, 2008 at 4:00 pm
Chicago is one of the greatest cities in th world, it didn’t become so without the Arts, Entertainment etc., remove the city council and keep the music.
1621. john rudy | May 12, 2008 at 4:00 pm
For a City who prides itself and markets itself as a leader in the arts this is a sad state of affairs. The City continiues to “improve” itself by making it increasing more like other cities and more expensive for those who call it home. Day by day it becomes a great place to visit and more difficult to live in.
Please think about the everyday guy.
1622. Krzysztof Piotrowski | May 12, 2008 at 4:00 pm
one of the greatest things about chicago is its music, theater and other arts. taking that away is like stripping the city of its soul. you should be ashamed!
1623. Jenny Bucher | May 12, 2008 at 4:01 pm
Keep Chicago creatively and economically cultured!
1624. joe | May 12, 2008 at 4:01 pm
i mean come the FUCK ON ALREADY! bunch of connected fucks sittin around with nothin better to do than to come up with stupid sht like this,just so they can make someting of of someone elses hard work!
1625. Jeff Mickey | May 12, 2008 at 4:02 pm
Add me to the list, Me thinks we aren’t wanted here maybe it is time to go.
1626. Juan Lopez | May 12, 2008 at 4:02 pm
Somebody wants to literally kill our industry. period. Should we all move to Detroit? They seem to be light years ahead. what a shame
1627. Leo | May 12, 2008 at 4:02 pm
this is crap they are just trying to line their pockets with more $$$ at the expense of the little guy
1628. Samantha DeBias | May 12, 2008 at 4:02 pm
this is, in the plainest language, an outrage
1629. Andrew Bramscher | May 12, 2008 at 4:02 pm
The laws building up around the Chicago land area is getting more and more ridiculous. This one takes the cake. Add my name to anything going against this ordinance.
1630. Jessica | May 12, 2008 at 4:03 pm
An impractical, unrealistic, and poorly thought out law. You’ve got my support Chicago, This law should not be passed.
1631. Ryan Maher | May 12, 2008 at 4:03 pm
The proposed ordinance will diminish Chicago’s reputation as a cultural capital and will prove to be an economic nightmare for numerous theaters, music venues, and surrounding businesses that benefit from such performances. I encourage every sensible alderman to oppose such a senseless ordinance that will do little to prevent disasters like E2.
1632. Wade Wilby | May 12, 2008 at 4:03 pm
The fact that this is even a thought for the City of Chicago is disturbing. Stop this ordinance from happening at all costs. I have been working in the music business for 12 years and for the past 4 years I have worked in Chicago on and off. THIS CANNOT HAPPEN. It is costing bands and independant promoters a fortune to bring culture to this great city and so many more. Don’t make bands SKIP a MUST PLAY city.
1633. Billy Dean | May 12, 2008 at 4:03 pm
What are you thinking? Unacceptable.
1634. Jake Coon | May 12, 2008 at 4:03 pm
This is unacceptable.
There is no significant reason for this other than to tighten down any aspect of finger pointing towards the city when tragedies happen at shows just like anywhere else in life.
This movement will stifle our culture, that we ALL enjoy. Do we really have to discuss much more?
1635. Brent Butcher | May 12, 2008 at 4:03 pm
Why would a city known for it’s rich entertainment culture stifle that. Chicago has so many wonderful arts to offer and so many great local music groups. Don’t be an overbearing local government and stick it to the little guys. Many bands don’t have funds to support these requirements. All this will do is take away from taxes the city can use. People will go elsewhere for their entertainment needs.
1636. Megan Bentzel | May 12, 2008 at 4:03 pm
I strongly oppose this legislation. The only group which seems to benefit from the ordinance is the city itself, which would not need to adhere to the regulations of the proposed legislature for events put on by Parks and Recreation or any other city agency.
1637. Mike | May 12, 2008 at 4:04 pm
So politicians want to ruin one of the creative freedoms we still have in this ever growing police state? It affects people of all ages in the city, burbs, well.. lets just say everyone. The thought of someone actually trying to do this is ridiculous, they’ll be stealing away from their own family and friends that support any part of the scene. Ridiculous price gouging everywhere as it is, and they want to go and take away a form of stress relief? Everything has consequences.
All I’m going to say is remember the boston tea party, nah better yet… google Guy Fawkes.
1638. Jamie | May 12, 2008 at 4:04 pm
Killing the culture of this city? Bad idea. Don’t do this.
1639. M Johston | May 12, 2008 at 4:04 pm
Sounds like passage of this would mean a sorry day for both fans and artists that enjoy the smaller venues. What is the point of driving these performers out of the city? Beginning bands, actors and small venue owners already have a difficult time getting by and this would make it near impossble in many sittuations.
1640. David Ziemba | May 12, 2008 at 4:04 pm
It’s time to come together and kick this bill to the curb again. We have done it before and this time will be no different.
Yes, there’s greed in the promoter’s world but that doesn’t mean our fair city should stoop to their levels and create greed throughout the entire system. Isn’t there enough already?
We need the show of hands, feet and brain power..
we need a show of hearts
a show of compassion
of wisdom
growth
and
above all
we need to
KEEP THE MUSIC ALIVE !!!
By any means necessary.
Come Together Right NOW.
1641. JB Anderton | May 12, 2008 at 4:05 pm
Please do not kill local music with this ordinance. I moved here three years ago and am struggling enough just to get my music heard without the city stifling the local music clubs. This city will lose a lot of revenue as well as its reputation as a cultural center if this ordinance passes.
1642. Robbi | May 12, 2008 at 4:05 pm
As an entertainer/small time promoter.. Ive seen people revolve their fucking lives for going out… socializing doesn’t mean self-destruction..
Definetly don’t agree…chicago is known for events.. this will only be hurting “The Deciders”
Robbi says, “NAY!”
http://www.sonicbids.com/robbi
http://www.myspace.com/robbi
1643. Rachel Claff | May 12, 2008 at 4:05 pm
As a member of a twenty-year-old fringe theater company in Chicago, this is deeply upsetting to me. Our company has already tangled with the city many, many times in our good-faith efforts to secure a PPA. I watched at least five companies in the Andersonville neighborhood alone — including, improbably, the Starbucks — get shut down (permanently or temporarily) because of their struggles to procure said license.
This is even worse.
Chicago fringe venues are not only what make the arts scene vibrant and unique — they’re what attract young musicians, artists, and performers to live here and work here in the first place. If I wanted prohibitively expensive rehearsal/performance space and prohibitively expensive, mass-marketed shows at every turn, I’d've moved to New York in the first place.
1644. Taryn Morris | May 12, 2008 at 4:05 pm
As a fan of the Chicago scene, it would be asinine to let this pass! Suppression of the arts in order to make a pretty penny is not the way to go. I am appalled that this is even being considered for law.
1645. Sara Vinson | May 12, 2008 at 4:05 pm
Chicago has an incredible music and arts scene and it would be a disservice to the city to stifle the creativity by passing this “ridiculous” event planner proposal. Chicago needs it’s venues and music scene to thrive and grow and to encourage younger generations to get into the arts with the vast choices we currently have in Chicago. Please don’t take our choices away!
1646. Stefanie Wright | May 12, 2008 at 4:06 pm
I was born and raised in Chicago. I choose to remain living here because of this city’s rich music and cultural scene, and I’m not talking about big-name acts and arena rock that can be had anywhere. It’s the smaller venues that are the lifeblood of the Chicago scene, and the smaller promoters that bring you the best experiences.
I want to continue to see before-they-were-famous bands, attend benefits for people who fell upon hard times, and attend long-running DIY events as I have been doing since I was a teenager. And I want to do these things in Chicago.
I believe that this proposed ordinance will effectively squash many of the events that makes Chicago so unique.
Please vote NO!
1647. Breayne Ridde | May 12, 2008 at 4:06 pm
Passing this ordinance will mean breaking down a truly unique and extremely important part of what Chicago is and the people who inhabit it. We can’t let Chicago’s underground culture become something of yesterday. Let’s save our city!
1648. Becca Cleeland | May 12, 2008 at 4:06 pm
As a music writer and overall fan, I cannot imagine Chicago without its local music scene. This is ridiculous and must be stopped!!
1649. Misty Winter | May 12, 2008 at 4:06 pm
NO to Chicago Promoters Ordinance. This would change Chicago’s performing arts and music scene and Chicago Culture as a whole.
1650. John Poomduang | May 12, 2008 at 4:06 pm
This ordinance will both damage a thriving music/art community and hinder the economy of small, struggling venues. Please DO NOT let this pass.
1651. John Mobley | May 12, 2008 at 4:07 pm
It’s hard enough to put on a show. Please don’t make it harder.
1652. Erin Shelton | May 12, 2008 at 4:07 pm
As a person well-acquainted with the work that goes into promoting small theatre and music events, I can definitely say that such an ordinance will effectively shut down the small venue, storefront performances that make Chicago the national, if not international, hub of cultural activity (and cultural revenue) that it is. If the city leaders are so under-informed as to why people come here to live and to vacation, they will soon bankrupt more than the CTA – this city will shut down or turn into Las Vegas.
1653. Katrina Peters | May 12, 2008 at 4:07 pm
Part of the reason I wanted to live here in the first place was because there was so much going on and so many artistic people to collaborate with. If this goes through, I might as well move back out of state, because I could see the same acts there as I would be able to see here and then some. It’s really sad to see these kinds of laws even suggested, considering everything else that is in place and the effects it will have, also noting the target populous…. truly sad.
1654. Anita Darwish | May 12, 2008 at 4:08 pm
Most of the theatre that happens here doesn’t even pay its performers: how are the groups who are trying to make ends meet going to pay this license? I know that Chicago’s reputation as a thriving artistic community is important to Mayor Daley, and surely he would not want to threaten that tradition so that the city can reap the comparatively paltry sums it will receive by doing this. Our reputation for grass-roots artistry is surely more valuable.
1655. Ali | May 12, 2008 at 4:08 pm
One of the many reasons I love this city is it’s culture and diversity of music and musical venues. I even got to play shows for the first time in my life. This would be a sad law to ruin the artistic and musical epicenter that is chicago.
1656. Jennifer Jones | May 12, 2008 at 4:08 pm
I am strongly opposed to this ordinance. Please don’t stifle our artistic community!
1657. Marcela | May 12, 2008 at 4:09 pm
This law is stupied!
1658. Tyler Myers | May 12, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Please don’t make it more difficult for the arts to survive in Chicago.
1659. Raymon Cunha | May 12, 2008 at 4:09 pm
I am a singer/actor active in Chicago, and my partner is also an actor who does quite a bit of work in smaller, off-loop, non-Equity theaters in Chicago’s vibrant, varied, and very unique theater community. This ordinance will be very detrimental to the venues and organizations that my partner and I enjoy both as performers and audience members. It certainly seems antithetical, dare I say hypocritical, for the City of Chicago to boast itself as supportive of the arts in the city, and at the same time to consider a measure which amounts to legislating some artists and venues out of the opportunity to contribute the arts the claim to support. If the City is looking for new sources of revenue in these difficult fiscal times, they can surely look to sources that will not undermine the smaller players in our unique and diverse arts community.
1660. Adam Biagianti | May 12, 2008 at 4:10 pm
I work with small theatre companies and go to shows fairly regularly, and as both a consumer and a benefactor of the independent/not-for-profit arts I can’t believe Chicago would even consider passing an ordinance that would effectively kill off an artist’s ability to have their work seen or heard.
1661. Emily | May 12, 2008 at 4:10 pm
Please do not pass this ordinance!!!!!!!! It’s crazy!
1662. Shaun Bailey | May 12, 2008 at 4:10 pm
This would be terrible for any up and coming acts/ bands. I can’t see how this help tourism in the city at all.
1663. Cristin Barrett | May 12, 2008 at 4:10 pm
The proposed “promoter’s ordinance” is a disservice to the city of Chicago and its artists. It would create unemployment for thousands and will affect the entire city in a most negative way. This idea is appalling. I am vehemently opposed.
Cristin K. Barrett
1664. Tracy Walsh | May 12, 2008 at 4:10 pm
This ordinance is entirely disproportional, overinclusive, and unrequested. It defies the very essense of Chicago. This ordinance is akin to bulldozing a 3-flat that has a clogged pipe instead of pouring a little Drano down the sink. Chaining up exit doors in nightclubs is a problem; creativity is not.
Every audience of 40 people watching an amazing act knows why Chicago is great. We live here because we love our options. If we wanted commodified acts, we could sit on the couch in the middle of nowhere and turn on the TV for all the safety and security we want.
This ordinance also fails to recognize the tides have turned in music. Why are big record companies scrambling to make a buck any way they know how? Music is being taken back by independent promoters and by musicians themselves. United Center shows are obsolete for many of the music fans across the country. We seek out small bands and want to support them, and will travel across the country to do so. Let Chicago stand up for this, and be a refuge for people across the country/world who can come here to see our vibrant cultural activities.
Do not pass this ordinance in my name.
1665. Steve Darnall | May 12, 2008 at 4:10 pm
I urge the City Council to vote against this ordinance. It would be bad for business, bad for the arts, and bad for this city, its citizens, and its visitors.
1666. Ron | May 12, 2008 at 4:10 pm
Dear Officials…
You know that “Event Promoters” ordinance that you’re considering passing?
DON’T DO THAT.
1667. amy cargill | May 12, 2008 at 4:11 pm
Truly embarrassing and outrageous. Has Clear Channel taken over our city? Please represent your constituents accurately and vote NO, or be prepared to cleanup the mess when people find less productive ways to spend their time or move out of Chicago altogether.
1668. Aaron Minderman | May 12, 2008 at 4:11 pm
Worst proposed ordinance ever…
1669. Yoav Kashiv | May 12, 2008 at 4:11 pm
It’ll be a good idea to start on online petition (e.g., http://www.thepetitionsite.com/).
In any case, this ordinance sounds like a really bad thing for art in Chicago and hence should be stopped.
1670. stacy white | May 12, 2008 at 4:12 pm
I seriously hope this does not happen…Chicago is such a wonderfully cultured city…this would be devastating!!!
1671. Tim Riordan | May 12, 2008 at 4:12 pm
No, no, no! to the event organizers ordinance.
1672. Ian Eskridge | May 12, 2008 at 4:12 pm
This will affect so many peoples lives if it passes. Not only the performers, but all the employees as well. This will be a travesty to the entertainment business in Chicago.
1673. Patrick W. | May 12, 2008 at 4:12 pm
This sounds terrible.
1674. Jamie | May 12, 2008 at 4:12 pm
I don’t live in Chicago, but my friends and I travel down from other states all the time to go to shows, small and large. The music scene and it’s historic venues area huge part of what makes Chicago so appealing to young and old. Where are up-and-coming musicians going to go?
-”The definition of “event promoter” is so loosely defined it could apply to a band that books its own shows or a theater company that’s in town for a one-week run.
-“Event Promoter” must be licensed and will pay $500 – $2000 depending on expected audience size.”
Of course it could be the bands booking and promoting themselves. How else are they supposed to be heard without a label backing or something? And to license them (or as seems: making them pay a fine) to promote these shows is ridiculous. Sometimes it’s teens and young adults who are out there promoting and booking the shows. They don’t have the money for that.
I sincerely hope this doesn’t get passed, for the sake of past, present, and future talented artists from the Chicago scene.
1675. rich@richardboote.info | May 12, 2008 at 4:13 pm
As a frequent attendee of live music events within the City of Chicago, the passage of this ordinance will guarantee far less of my money is spent within the city itself. This will be a boon for the suburbs.
I find it hard to believe that this would reflect positively on the tax revenues generated by live performances in Chicago.
I am firmly opposed to this ordinance
Richard G. Boote
1676. Jared Voto | May 12, 2008 at 4:13 pm
Vote NO to Chicago Promoters Ordinance!
1677. Ryan Mintz | May 12, 2008 at 4:13 pm
As a musician, I’m highly opposed to this ordinance. Please don’t put it into law.
1678. Mark B. | May 12, 2008 at 4:13 pm
This is unacceptable! Venues, small shows, and small productions MAKE Chicago culture, and to take them away would leave our city without a soul. This is embarrassing, Chicago.
1679. Will Hartshorne | May 12, 2008 at 4:13 pm
This astounds me that the city would stoop so low. This isn’t the late 90s anymore, when the “Rave” scene was out of control. The times have changed, people have changed, but the music is still the heart of this city. If the city approves the promoter’s ordinance it will devastate the rebirth of the scene, and stop good people from having an opportunity, and the FREEDOM, to listen to music outside of the mainstream. This can’t happen, we have to fight for our rights in a legitimate judicial way. peace- iLLWiLL
1680. Marea Stamper | May 12, 2008 at 4:13 pm
Ward Offices By Zone (District)
Be Sure to call your Alderman to Oppose this Bill.
1 Ward Website: http://www.flores1stward.com
• Ward Office: 2058 N. Western Ave.
Chicago, IL 60647
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2 Ward Office: 429 S. Dearborn St.
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Chicago, IL 60609
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Chicago, IL 60649
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Room 300 Chicago, IL 60602
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Chicago, IL 60619
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7 Ward Office: 7129 S. Yates Blvd. Chicago, IL 60649
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Chicago, IL 60619
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Room 207 Chicago, IL 60602
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Chicago, IL 60628
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• Ward Fax: 773/523-8440
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• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 203 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-3040
13 • Ward Office: 6500 S. Pulaski Rd.
Chicago, IL s60629
• Ward Phone: 773-581-8000
• E-Mail: folivo@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
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• City Hall Phone: 312-744-3076
14 • Ward Office: 2650 W. 51st Street
Chicago, IL 60632
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• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
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15 • Ward Office: 3045 W. 63rd St.
Chicago, IL 60629
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• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
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16 • Ward Office: 5335 S. Western Blvd.
Chicago, IL 60609
• Ward Phone: 773-434-3399
• Ward Fax:: 773-434-3889
• E-Mail: JoAnn.Thompson@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
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• City Hall Phone: 312-744-3069
17 • Ward Office: 7811 S. Racine Ave.
Chicago, IL 60620
• Ward Phone: 773-723-0908
• E-Mail: lrthomas@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 300 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-7738
18 • Ward Office: 8146 S. Kedzie
Chicago, IL 60652
• Ward Website:
City Of Chicago Website – 18th Ward
• Ward Phone: 773/471-1991
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• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
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• City Hall Phone: 312-744-6856
19• Ward Office: 10444 S. Western Ave.
Chicago, IL 60643
• Ward Phone: 773-238-8766
• Fax: 773-238-9049
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• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
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• City Hall Phone: 312-744-3072
20 • Ward Office: 6357 S. Cottage Grove
Chicago, IL 60637
• Ward Phone: 773/955-5610
• Ward Fax: 773/955-5612
• E-Mail: Willie.Cochran@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
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• City Hall Phone: 312-744-6840
21 • Ward Office: 9612 S. Halsted
Chicago, IL 60628
• Ward Phone: 773/881-9300
• Ward Fax: 773/881-9383
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• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 300 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-4810
22 • Ward Office: 2500 S. St Louis
Chicago, IL 60623
• Ward Phone: 773-762-1771
• E-Mail: rmunoz@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 300 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-9491
23 • Ward Office: 6247 S. Archer Ave.
Chicago, IL 60638
• Ward Phone: 773-582-4444
• E-Mail: mzalewski@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
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• City Hall Phone: 312-744-6828
24 • Ward Office: 2100 S. Marshall Blvd.,
Ste. 801 Chicago, IL 60623
• Ward Phone: 773-522-2430
• E-Mail: Sharon.Dixon@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-6839
25 • Ward Office: 2439 S. Oakley St.
Chicago, IL 60608
• Ward Phone: 312-843-1200
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• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
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• City Hall Phone: 312-744-6845
26 • Ward Office: 3236 W. Division
Chicago, IL 60651
• Ward Phone: 773-276-4269
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• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 300Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-6853
27 • Ward Office: 1463 W. Chicago Avenue
Chicago, IL 60622
• Ward Phone: 312-432-1995
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• City Hall Office: 121 N. La Salle Street
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• City Hall Phone: 312-744-6124
28 • Ward Office: 118 N. Pulaski Road
Chicago, IL 60624
• Ward Phone: 773-533-0900
• Ward Fax: 773-533-6199
• E-Mail: ehsmith@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 203 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-3066
29• Ward Office: 5937 West Madison Avenue
Chicago, Il 60644
• Ward Phone: 773-261-4646
• E-Mail: icarothers@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 203 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-3070
30• Ward Office: 3348 N. Milwaukee Ave.
Chicago, IL
• Ward Website: http://www.reboyras.com
• Ward Phone: 773/794-3095
• E-Mail: ward30@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 203 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-3304
31 • Ward Website: http://www.ward31.com
• Ward Office: 4502 W. Fullerton Ave.
Chicago, IL 60639
• Ward Phone: 773-486-6488
• E-Mail: rsuarez@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 203 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-6102
32• Ward Office: 2657 N. Clybourn
Chicago, IL 60614
• Ward Phone: 773.248.1330
• Ward Fax: 773.248.1360
• E-Mail: ward32@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 300 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-6567
33• Ward Office: 3649 N. Kedzie Ave.
Chicago, Il 60618
• Ward Phone: 773-478-8040
• E-Mail: rmell@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 208 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-6825
34• Ward Office: 507 W. 111th St.
Chicago, IL 60628
• Ward Phone: 773-928-6961
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• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 203 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-6820
35 • Ward Office: 2710 N. Sawyer
Chicago IL 60647
• Ward Phone: 773/365-3535
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• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 203 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-6835
36 • Ward Office: 6839 W. Belmont Ave.
Chicago, IL 60634
• Ward Phone: 773-622-3232
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Room 304 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-6857
37 • Ward Office: 5344 W. North Ave.
Chicago, IL 60639 Ward
• Phone: 773-745-2894
• E-Mail: emitts@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 300 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-8019
38• Ward Office: 5817 W. Irving Park Rd.
Chicago, IL 60634
• Ward Phone: 773-545-3838
• E-Mail: tallen@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 203 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-6811
39• Ward Office: 4404 W. Lawrence Ave.
Chicago, IL 60630
• Ward Website: http://www.aldermanlaurino.com
• Ward Phone: 773-736-5594
• E-Mail: mlaurino@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 203 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-7242
40• Ward Office: 5850 N. Lincoln Ave.
Chicago, IL 60659
• Ward Phone: 773-769-1140
• E-Mail: poconnor@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 305 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-6858
41• Ward Office: 6650 N. Northwest Highway
Chicago, IL 60631
• Ward Phone: 773-792-1991
• E-Mail: bdoherty@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 203 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-3208
42• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St. Room 306 Chicago, IL 60602
• Ward Office: 311 West Superior Street Room 212 Chicago, IL 60611
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-3062
• Ward Phone: 312-642-4242
• E-Mail:Brendan.Reilly@cityofchicago.org
43• Ward Office: 735 W. Wrightwood
Chicago, IL 60614
• Ward Website: http://www.chicago43rd.org
• Ward Phone: 773-327-9111
• E-Mail: vdaley@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 300 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-3071
44• Ward Office: 1057 W. Belmont
Chicago, IL 60657
• Ward Website: 44thward.org
• Ward Phone: 773/525-6034
• E-Mail: ttunney@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 300 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-3073
1681. L Smith (DJ Shiva) | May 12, 2008 at 4:13 pm
I am an Indianapolis DJ who comes to Chicago frequently both to play and just to enjoy the Chicago nightlife. This misguided attempt to put even more laws on the books when current laws already suffice, is an obvious political chess move that will do nothing more than stifle the ability for legitimate but small event promoters to keep doing quality events.
I am pretty sure Chicago has more important issues that the city council should be dealing with, but once again, event promoters and clubgoers are an easy target and an easy political payoff.
It has always been small, independent events that draw me to spend my nightlife dollars in Chicago, and I do not want to see those independent events go the way of the dinosaur because Chicago’s politicians need political capital. One measure of a world quality city is the arts/music community, and giving this community yet ANOTHER hurdle to jump over does nothing to help the city, and will only result in a loss of independent events.
I know a lot of Chicago musicians, DJs, promoters and clubgoers, who have taken a lot of pride in their city as a world-class nightlife destination. This ordinance will do nothing but hurt legitimate promoters, while the illegitimate ones will always find a way around the law.
Enforce the laws you have, and stop weighing down the system with more useless ones that do nothing but stifle the very things it claims to want to protect.
1682. Phil Gratteau | May 12, 2008 at 4:13 pm
As a professional musician in Chicago, I deplore this unnecessary ordinance that seriosly threatens smaller, live artistic events. The ever-shrinking music scene in clubs would be dealt a serious blow, and the city would be so much lessfor it–this smacks of another cynical attempt by City Hall to wring every last tax dollar from the citizens while the waste and insider deals continue to be the norm.
1683. Robert | May 12, 2008 at 4:14 pm
For the health of our city it is important that we keep the small arts healthy and able to thrive. This bill will change the character of the city in a very negative way. We do not need this bill.
1684. Beth McKay | May 12, 2008 at 4:14 pm
Small Entrepreneurial enterprises of all kinds were what this country was built on now they are being taxed, licensed and permitted out of existence. This proposed ordinance is just another way for the city of Chicago to line its coffers at the expense of the little guy. The ramifications of this ordinance will make Chicago an artistic wasteland. Do not put this law into affect.
1685. Jon Cummings | May 12, 2008 at 4:15 pm
I’d hate to see this happen to my hometown. I beg the City Council not to be so short-sighted.
1686. Lauryn Peacock of Pauw | May 12, 2008 at 4:15 pm
It’s like they can’t get it through their heads that people in the arts, as artists and as promoters, as administrators, even as teachers are generally poor, thanks to the way our culture already fails to value its artists and those who promote them (unless it’s big business, e.g. big record companies). This is already a financially overburdened community of people, and I care less about the 18-year-old who can’t promote a show (and about that I do still care) than I do the placing of further, undue, financial strain on a community of businesspeople who need that burden least of all. How sad if they cannot, at least, see what they are trying to pass through committee in that light.
1687. G Havas | May 12, 2008 at 4:15 pm
As a recent transplant from NYC, I was thrilled to discover Chicago’s committed arts and culture community, city-wide and thriving. Anything that threatens it is at best ill-advised, at worst distastrous. Come to your collective governmental senses and help, not hurt, the arts in Chicago.
1688. Robert Swanson | May 12, 2008 at 4:16 pm
Good grief, first we’re saddled with the highest sales tax rates in the country, making it hard for local retailers to compete with the suburbs and Indiana. Now you want to make it harder for small live music venues, for which Chicago is FAMOUS, to do business here as well?? Aldermen, if your objective is to get people and businesses to shut down & flee this city in droves, you’re doing a spectacular job. I own a small business here and let me tell you, I’m being wooed quite heavily by neighboring states to pick up and move. They’re claiming that Illinois, Cook County and Chicago are ANTI-BUSINESS and I’d be better served by leaving town. I’m beginning to see what they mean.
So go ahead and pass this ordinance, gentlemen. You’ll have me and my business here one step closer to breaking point and leaving town. I’m sure Michigan and Indiana (and, in the case of this ridiculous ordinance, Chicago’s suburbs) will appreciate the new tax base they’ll soon be receiving.
1689. John Coburn | May 12, 2008 at 4:16 pm
This ordinance is ridiculous, unnecessary, and will promote nothing more than a stifling of creativity in Chicago’s music scene while lining the pockets of rich promoters. Much of Chicago’s vibrant local music scene is low budget and cannot sustain the high fees required in the proposed ordinance. This amounts to censorship.
1690. matthew james gronholm | May 12, 2008 at 4:16 pm
i think this is a travesty. as a musician it is telling me that chicago is not the chicago that artists like buddy guy, b.b. king, and robert johnson once new. they came up here to just get there music heard, and chicago was that place. it seems like now all chicago wants is there piece of the pie, and that is not what art is about. it is solely about expression and allowing the small market venues the oppurtunity to showcase that expression. it saddens me to think this city wants to stifle an artists voice.
1691. Donna Miller | May 12, 2008 at 4:16 pm
Please do not pass this ordinance!
1692. renee greenman | May 12, 2008 at 4:16 pm
We live in a democracy. Let the people vote for any ordinance that has to do with music.
1693. Erin Orr | May 12, 2008 at 4:17 pm
the idea of this ordinance makes me ill. this would kill the chicago creative scene. this is UNACCEPTABLE!!
1694. Murray Katz | May 12, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Are you fricken kidding me. The city is taxing everything now from gas to water to food. now they want apiece of the pie for people to listen to music. What is next ? Is the city going to tax me next time I take a crap ?
The City already makes money off the business that pay taxes and support local music. There is not a lot of money in most bands’ budgets. Let the poor man eat.
1695. Abby Stephenson | May 12, 2008 at 4:17 pm
This is absolutely ridiculous.
I think it would be a really bad choice for the city.
Do not allow this to pass!
1696. Matthew C | May 12, 2008 at 4:17 pm
I agree…this ordinance is preposterous.
1697. Erin Johnson | May 12, 2008 at 4:17 pm
This ordinance is a terrible idea
1698. John Serritella | May 12, 2008 at 4:17 pm
leave it alone.
1699. Sara Mathers | May 12, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Please do not take away Chicago’s ability to create!
Support local music and art – don’t restrict it!
1700. taylor | May 12, 2008 at 4:18 pm
I volunteer to promote for bands that I like and support and it would be a huge setback if we had to have a license and be of a certain age. I also think this would help to lower chicagos music scene “credibility.” A lot of people coming to the city know of places like Metro and House of Blues, and visit just to go to places that are legendary like that. I think it would decrease the amount of people coming to chicago visiting, or even if they wanted to move here because there would be one less interesting thing to do here.
I am very against this “Promoters Ordinace” and think it should be Diminished.
-Taylor
1701. Dirk Anderson | May 12, 2008 at 4:18 pm
this sounds like a terrible idea (as if me giving a shit is going to make a difference).
1702. Freddy Blair | May 12, 2008 at 4:18 pm
I don’t dig this ordinance.
1703. Melissa A | May 12, 2008 at 4:18 pm
Another against the ordinance vote here!
1704. Terry Fox | May 12, 2008 at 4:19 pm
This is absolutely absurd. I can’t believe that this is even possible without a referendum or discussion with the public. This will put many people out of work in a time when we are all scratching to get by.
This must not be approved.
1705. tara noftsier | May 12, 2008 at 4:19 pm
rubbish. wasting time and money.
1706. Stefanie S | May 12, 2008 at 4:20 pm
my goodness. come on now. this will really change the City of Chicago as we all know and love it. this ridiculous on so many levels….. get real city council….PLEASE DO NOT LET THIS PASS.
1707. Alan Ortiz | May 12, 2008 at 4:20 pm
Please don’t.
1708. Timothy Bambara | May 12, 2008 at 4:20 pm
There goes my economic stimulus check.
As an artistic director of a budding theatre company, you find yourself and the close group around you taking on all of the producing responsibilities to put up the show. A small group of 5 – 10 artists are taking care of the fund raising, financial backing, and promotion, while also being artists (rehearsing the play, learning lines, building characters, etc.) Keep in mind that we do not get paid for our art work therefore you have to keep a day job that allows you to live. We all do our day jobs so that we can do our art, it’s a means to an end. We are committed and love what we do, which is why we don’t mind being overextended. We love creating theatre, being part of the strong theatre community, and putting our work out for everyone around us to enjoy.
I was recently telling a few younger actors who are considering moving to Chicago, how producer friendly this town is and how you can really make your artistic vision into a reality here in Chicago.
Apparently, we might have to shell out an extra $500 for this right.
So I want to know exactly what this license means and what “licensed” rights am I entitled to as a producer and an artist?
If you are performing a published play you already pay a considerably amount of royalties.
If this thing is going go through regardless, than I want my money’s worth. I work to hard and so do the people around me. I don’t want to pay $500 for a piece of paper.
So, City Council, what do we get in return for taxing our art, our music, and our want to express ourselves and unite others through our work?
Timothy Bambara
Artistic Director
Dramatis Personae
1709. Karen Hill | May 12, 2008 at 4:21 pm
Yet another attempt to turn our culture into one big WALLMART. Big box business after big box business. How sad that the roots of our European ancestry that created small individual businesses that have roots and pride in their products are being slaughtered by greedy capitalists and cronies gone wrong.:(
1710. Jon Sherman | May 12, 2008 at 4:21 pm
As an audience member and independent theatre producer, I am terrified by this ordinance. If someone was explicitly thinking of a means to stifle the most creative city in the country, this ordinance would be it. There are many, many ordinances and laws already in place that address audience safety and wellbeing. Let’s enforce these before passing preposterously onerous ordinances like this one.
1711. renee clearwater | May 12, 2008 at 4:21 pm
We are getting rid of one idiot in the white house, why do we have to contend with more idiots concerning something that they obviously know nothing about. Stick to your schistering guys, not to beautiful music
1712. Alex Kagan | May 12, 2008 at 4:22 pm
Please do not leave people jobless.
Please do not restrict creativity.
Music saves lives.
Don’t take that away.
Promoters don’t do any harm!
Save local music!
1713. Evan buhner | May 12, 2008 at 4:22 pm
How could the city council even think about destroying the art of Chicago? Chicago’s art is the backbone to the city itself and without it, the city will collapse into a dull, awful place. Creativity is what singles this city out and makes it such a wonderful place, without it, there is nothing.
1714. Luis Pere | May 12, 2008 at 4:22 pm
Vote NO to Chicago Promoters Ordinance!
Luis Perez
35th Ward Resident
Filmmaker/Producer/Radio Host
1715. eddy clearwater | May 12, 2008 at 4:22 pm
Who asked for their help?
1716. Karen Carreras | May 12, 2008 at 4:23 pm
If the city really wants to do something helpful, they will break up the Ticketmaster monopoly. I don’t even go to concerts anymore because I refuse to pay their exhorbitant fees.
Not just licensing-it is a fundraiser. The city is much more interested in the amount of money this will generate than in trying to regulate or control promoters
1717. Jonathan Wang | May 12, 2008 at 4:23 pm
Chicago didn’t become famous for its music scene by restricting the variety of cultural experiences on offer. It certainly shouldn’t start now.
1718. Alison Dornheggen | May 12, 2008 at 4:23 pm
While the original ordinance was presented as a late reaction to the E2 disaster, it is poorly written and will only have nothing but a negative effect on the arts culture in Chicago. There are more arts orgs with 500k GOE or less in this town than there are that have a GOE of 500k+ Chicago is known for producing its art, be it live music, theater, gallery showings, etc, in small intimate venues that cannot afford to meet the expectations that this ordinance will require. This economy is already putting a financial strain on the industry as grants and funding are being cut. To add this financial burden to a small budget organization will do nothing but see the arts suffer. And if that suffers, so will the tourism, and so on. The major players (the The AllState Arena, Charter One Pavilion to name a few) can deal with this due to major corporate relationships- but there is so much more to this town beyond processed entertainment for the masses.
1719. Missy A. | May 12, 2008 at 4:23 pm
PLEASE don’t let this happen. I just moved here 8 months ago to start my theatre career, and had my first rehearsal for my first show in Chicago tonight! Don’t let it be my last! Add my name to the list!
1720. Drew Parkes | May 12, 2008 at 4:23 pm
If you take this away from us, You might as well take our lives also.
1721. Matt Brennan | May 12, 2008 at 4:23 pm
This new ordinance would mark the beginning of the end of the small intimate musical gatherings. The amount of money required to get licensed exceeds what some promoters make in a night. I know many that consistently break even at best on their events, but continue to do it because of their love for the music and the scene. This ordinance would obviously put an end to that.
1722. Ronald Keaton | May 12, 2008 at 4:23 pm
I have been an actor/singer/writer/director/stage manager for over 35 years. I’m constantly appalled at the treatment of the arts and culture in this state. You would think that the Daleys would be so against this…but then again, the city is trying to fill its coffers in any way that it can. This ordinance is offensive and ill-conceived; I pray that it is not only rejected, but that it never appears again in ANY form.
1723. Heather Fiebing | May 12, 2008 at 4:23 pm
I am strongly against the implementation of the “Event Promoters” ordinance. The establishment of this ordinance would stifle creativity in Chicago’s musical, theatrical, and general cultural scenes, and would make it virtually impossible for anyone defined as an event promoter to perform in Chicago. Since event promoter is so loosely defined, and since venues with more than 500 seats are exempt, the ordinance would end the ability for any small theater or independent artist to perform in the city. This is an outrageous attack on and attempt to ban personal freedom of expression in the city of Chicago.
1724. Jen Cooley | May 12, 2008 at 4:24 pm
All this ordinance will do is stop our future generations from enjoying an exceptionally vibrant musical scene. We must put our foot down and say absolutely not.
1725. briana | May 12, 2008 at 4:24 pm
FREEDOM OF ART.
1726. Philip WIttlief | May 12, 2008 at 4:24 pm
please don’t let this ordinance pass!
1727. PTO | May 12, 2008 at 4:24 pm
must not pass into law!
1728. Madonna Ivan | May 12, 2008 at 4:25 pm
NO! to the Promoters Ordinance.
1729. Glen Herman | May 12, 2008 at 4:25 pm
Dear Aldermen,
Please do not pass the Promotor’s Ordinance. How silly.
1730. Patrick Wayne Thomas | May 12, 2008 at 4:25 pm
I have lived in Chicago all my life, and I believe that this ordinance would destroy a part of this city that I have loved for a long time.
I implore you, DO NOT pass this ordinance.
1731. Julie | May 12, 2008 at 4:25 pm
Stop the ordinance!!! The little venue’s are important to the city. Art is part of Chicago and it would be a shame to loose it. Think about it, when you were younger, you probably wanted to go to the small shows at night just to see new artist, etc. and hang out with friends. This is important to keep this alive, not only for the young people in the area but also for the performing arts and music industry. Without the small venues where would we get the next big name?? It wouldn’t be Chicago….
ART IS LIFE!!!
1732. Jackie McClellan | May 12, 2008 at 4:25 pm
Don’t you want a happy city that has the right to appreciate the arts…as in our OWN definition of the arts…and not always big budget theater and shows?
I’ll tell ya what…I moved out of here once, and though I love Chicago, I’ll do it again, if that’s what it takes to make a point!!!!!!!!
1733. Kurt Oppenheim | May 12, 2008 at 4:25 pm
I’ve been going to local music shows at for over ten years at the Metro, Double Door, and and other venues. This ordinance will destroy the already meager profits of unsigned bands for unneccessary “taxation.” I say the city has enough money and should leave the little guys alone. Big business will continue to destroy this country by making the rich richer and the poor poorer if something isn’t done to stop laws like this.
1734. Brett Harmon | May 12, 2008 at 4:26 pm
Just one more step in the wrong direction for this epic failure of a city.
Chicago, the Detroit of the future.
1735. Rod Homor | May 12, 2008 at 4:26 pm
Since when did Jesse Helms come back and take up residence in Chicago? Come on now, folks… we need art, culture, music, and theater to continue to thrive here in our great city. Call your alderman. Act now. Thanks.
1736. N8 | May 12, 2008 at 4:28 pm
Crying shame. Stupid commies.
1737. M-KL | May 12, 2008 at 4:28 pm
Every small club show I’ve been to in Chicago has gone on without any problems. The city is apparently imagining that these shows are dangerous, which is made even more obvious by the Council not meeting with people involved in the Chicago music scene.
1738. Kevin Fitzpatrick - Your Event Hotline | May 12, 2008 at 4:29 pm
I agree, this is a bit much, certainly the city has better ways of getting $ & they cetainly could do more to spend their $ better
1739. Samantha Picchietti | May 12, 2008 at 4:29 pm
Chicago is so rich in the arts it would be a travesty to stifle all the local talent as well as the talent that travels to this diverse city. Keep the arts alive! Not everybody can afford to pay the fees of this proposed law, therefore i find this proposed law predijuiced against those who cannot afford it.
1740. Kate | May 12, 2008 at 4:29 pm
I hope that everyone that posted a comment on this website, also wrote to their alderman! I know I did.
1741. Jacob B | May 12, 2008 at 4:30 pm
dont chaange our city
1742. Neil Tobin | May 12, 2008 at 4:30 pm
I have been producing my own one-man show in a space without fixed seating for the past four years, and have seen it grow to become one of the top ten attractions in Chicago as decided by members of the largest online travel community, Tripadvisor.com. This could not have happened, nor could it continue, under the proposed ordinance.
1743. Veronica Higgins | May 12, 2008 at 4:31 pm
The true pulse of our city is its music/art culture. If this ordinance passes it will cripple Chicago. Hopefully these voices will be heard.
V Higgins
1744. Darren Scorza | May 12, 2008 at 4:31 pm
Like many political actions, the city seems to want to throw the baby out with the bath water. The point to which this will effect the creative musical community of Chicago has already been stated. My concern is what persons or body is this benefitting. Is the city trying to prevent responsibility for events such as the E2 nightclub incident? The city should be more concerned with the diligence of their inspectors, police, and come to grips with the fact that #$%@ happens. What’s next… a $300,000 insurance policy to hold a family picnic? Or maybe we should just go with Mayor Daley’s plan and make Grant Park, Northerly Island, and Millennium Park the sole location for any and all entertainment in the City. And we’ll all get down there by L-train… if it doesn’t fall off the track.
1745. alexis | May 12, 2008 at 4:31 pm
This is a horrible thing that they are doing to the Chicago music scene
1746. Chris LoPresti | May 12, 2008 at 4:31 pm
I myself am in a band based in the suburbs just outside of Chicago. If this ordinance goes through, we will never be able to play another show inside the city of Chicago, since we are the only ones who promote our band. However, small bands and many small venues within Chicago will be outright finished. Due to the age constraints, essentially no one under 21 would even be able to start a band. It seems that the supporters of this ordinance either have no idea what they are doing to the Chicago music scene, or are just plain awful people.
1747. Adriana Kinsler | May 12, 2008 at 4:31 pm
These venues are the second home for so many people, whether they be musicians or concert-goers. The creativity of this city must not be silenced.
1748. Paul Caporino | May 12, 2008 at 4:31 pm
I’m against this ordinance 100%.
1749. Christine Blumer | May 12, 2008 at 4:31 pm
Small theatre companies and storefront improv are vital to Chicago’s history, tourism, and commerce. Most small theatre companies can barely afford a $700 a week rent for a tiny storefront space for a 3-4 week run. Actors, designers, and crew are almost never paid for rehearsal or performance due to budget contraints. Please understand that any ordinance that requires even $100 in fees or licenses can be a severe hardship for many groups. Do whatever it takes to make this law friendly to smaller arts organizations and venues or risk losing a significant amount of culture, tourism, and revenue to our city.
1750. Kendra Peterson | May 12, 2008 at 4:31 pm
So unfortunate that the city of chicago feels this is the way to “protect” event-goers. Hopefully we can prevent them from stifling our artists’ creativity and expression. Be an activist! Call your alderman!
1751. Michele Thomas | May 12, 2008 at 4:32 pm
I really don’t see the justification for this ordinance. Who exactly is this protecting? Clubs, artists, musicians, patrons? It saddens me that city government continues to find ways to make money off of the backs of hard working Chicagoans…and to what end? This is a classic example of a law being passed by people who have no connection to the average working class folks who are either self-employed, small business owners or private contractors. I will not stand for it! Let’s fight this!
1752. Zak Bergman | May 12, 2008 at 4:33 pm
Please keep the Chicago culture intact. Leave what is good alone.
1753. Lisa Garcia | May 12, 2008 at 4:33 pm
This is absolutely ridiculous.
I am totally speechless, but I think the other thousand people before me have said it better anyway.
Freedoms are being squandered.
Money will be lost.
Yada Yada Yada please don’t let this pass.
1754. Robert Langellier | May 12, 2008 at 4:33 pm
This is a terrible law. How can you suffocate such a beautiful arts scene without a second thought like that? I don’t live in Chicago myself, but if their music scene was too look like mine, it would be an awful, awful shame.
1755. Peter Robards | May 12, 2008 at 4:33 pm
This ordinance is one of the worst ideas I’ve heard of in a long time. Please don’t let this pass.
1756. Adam Penly | May 12, 2008 at 4:34 pm
This ordinance is a terrible idea, and will hurt the independent nature of such a thriving music scene. Please help stop this ordinance from passing!
1757. amanda | May 12, 2008 at 4:34 pm
This was obviously thought up by people who have no idea how the Chicago music culture (or any artistic culture) works, and are ignorant to its consequences. Or they do know how it works and are shamelessly exploiting and/or ruining those who are passionate about making and supporting music. Either way, please make it stop.
1758. Sarah Sage Gallagher | May 12, 2008 at 4:34 pm
This will stifle the creativity and motivation of countless young bands and the fans of such artists. This will leave a gaping hole in our once vibrant music scene.
Sarah Gallagher
Music Merchandiser
Columbia College Chicago Grad
Music Business
1759. Laura Coleman | May 12, 2008 at 4:34 pm
Good God.
1760. Sierra Quinn Sahulka | May 12, 2008 at 4:34 pm
Chicago should be a haven for those who need an escape from a country of mindless, corporate, pop culture trash. Save the music!
1761. Devon | May 12, 2008 at 4:35 pm
Any ordinance that could have an adverse affect on Chicago’s music scene and creativity needs to be obliterated.
1762. Marc Cobb | May 12, 2008 at 4:35 pm
STOP THE ORDINANCE!!! Destroying Miggs Field in the middle of the night is one thing, but this is absolutely shameful politics. This is not because of safety, don’t kid yourselves. This is about money.
1763. David Amato | May 12, 2008 at 4:35 pm
Stop the ordinace! I am an actor just getting his start and the thought of the smaller theatres and venues that have made the city of Chicago so great being forced to close down because they cannot afford the ridiculous fees truly sickens me. All I’ve ever heard is how great a city Chicago is because of the huge amount of smaller venues around that give a chance to up-and-coming artists. Don’t take that away!!!!!!!!!!!
1764. luke anichini | May 12, 2008 at 4:37 pm
Shame on you, City Councel, at a time when the economy is hurting and a lot of people are struggelling to get by; you want to put more people out of work with this proposed legislation. Not only that but you are putting a serious crimp on Chicago’s wonderful club and live music industry. This industry draws as many tourists and thier dollars as does our archithecture. Over regulation will kill the goose that is laying the golden eggs. So please do not pass this. Not passing this would be doing something usefull for the people of this great city.
1765. Linda Rasins | May 12, 2008 at 4:37 pm
This ordinance is wrong. The city needs to support and nurture music in small venues – a Chicago tradition and treasure. This ordinance would do the opposite. Councilpersons: please work with the Chicago Music Commission to get it right. Please.
1766. Jeremy Schaefer | May 12, 2008 at 4:39 pm
This is just a disturbing ordinance that undercuts all culture in this city.
1767. Chad Diamond | May 12, 2008 at 4:40 pm
This ordinance is a bad idea for any number of reasons, but generally it’s just a case of the City overreaching — municipal ultra vires. I strongly oppose it for that reason — not the effect, but the principle.
1768. Paul Guilianelli | May 12, 2008 at 4:40 pm
Add my name to this list. This seems totally uncalled for and I definitely would like to slow this process down to hear why such an ordinance is necessary in anyone’s estimation.
1769. PETER AKA dj power | May 12, 2008 at 4:40 pm
I am 20 year old been in the game for 2 or 3 years now I am hard working person & also a student !!!!!this ordinance not going to be a good for us. be passing out flyers & for alot of promoters in chicago 21+ & 18 + now going to have a pay for to be on the streets this is not right !!!!!!!!!
1770. emily mecartney | May 12, 2008 at 4:40 pm
do not let this happen it is TOTALLY unfair!!!!
we will be music deprived and bands will never have a chance to hit it big if we can’t promote them!
1771. Jen Vegas | May 12, 2008 at 4:40 pm
This is a lame ploy for the city to extract more money from already underfunded music and arts organizations, their artists and their supporters. Shame on you Chicago! We’re hailed as a thriving music city and this is just the latest and greatest attempt to destroy that heritage.
Aldermen, do NOT vote to pass this ordinance!
1772. Anna Mielniczuk | May 12, 2008 at 4:40 pm
This is everything that is Chicago! If this goes into affect, this city won’t feel like home. We’re slowly going to turn into a clone of every cultureless city thats out there. Music is Chicago,Theater is Chicago, ART is Chicago and without the freedom to express ourselves, we have nothing, and Chicago won’t be the same.
1773. J Kahle (Ally Entertainment) | May 12, 2008 at 4:41 pm
NO!
1774. Cynthia | May 12, 2008 at 4:41 pm
DO NOT APPROVE THIS ORDINANCE!!
1775. Cory J. Cravatta | May 12, 2008 at 4:41 pm
This sounds to be someone trying to do some good but hitting it WAY OFF the mark. This ordinance will not prevent any of the people it is attempting to restrict and will effectively kill Chicago’s vibrant music, theater, and comedy scenes. To pass this is to effectively tell people that they have to hop on 90 or 94 if they want any sort of culture. I’m ashamed of my city council to see something like this actually make it to a vote.
1776. Dan Polyak | May 12, 2008 at 4:41 pm
STOP THE ORDINANCE!!!
Dan Polyak
1777. Sean | May 12, 2008 at 4:41 pm
We certainly don’t need to be reminded of who can afford to put up with this and who can’t. I depended on Chicago ever since I was a kid for the best shows in the country. Stop this!
1778. Robert Weston | May 12, 2008 at 4:41 pm
This is a terrible ordinance. I assume it was written in response to the E2 disaster. But there are already laws on the books that, if they had been enforced, would have averted the E2 fire. And why now, so long after, with such a rush to push it through?
The statute will do nothing to make entertainment any safer. It will simply limit the variety and depth of entertainment available. How sad to do something like this in a city with such a great reputation with touring bands, etc, from around the world. Many of them will now have to skip Chicago? Insane.
Bob Weston
Chicago Mastering Service
1779. Steve Maviano | May 12, 2008 at 4:42 pm
In a time where all we see in the newspapers and on TV is war, bloodshed, destruction, capitalism, death, and Paris Hilton, it is a much needed release for tens of thousands of people to be able to go to a concert and be able to forget about all of those things for a few hours. Please don’t make laws that will make the rich richer and the hungry hungrier. ART NEEDS TO BE EMBRACED…NOT ERASED!!!!!!
1780. Kris Krumb | May 12, 2008 at 4:42 pm
This is ridiculous. I don’t even live in Chicago and I’m upset by this. I go to show in Chicago as much as I can as some bands bypass me (I live in Indy) and Chicago is the easiest for me to get to. If they pass this ordinance then they can kiss so much money in music related tourism good-bye.
1781. Brian Hurst | May 12, 2008 at 4:42 pm
This is a ridiculous ordinance and i think it shouldn’t pass, because it will literally destroy the music and theater scene. most small bands and companys can barely even make it when they do shows for free. my brothers band used to play almost every show for free. Imagine if you had to pay to do free shows…? small bands would be destroyed!
1782. Liz L-B | May 12, 2008 at 4:43 pm
This is truly unreasonable. As someone who moved to this city specifically for it’s cultural offerings I find the possiblity of this ordinance outrageous and frightening.
1783. Kristine Paca | May 12, 2008 at 4:43 pm
I am 100% against this.
1784. Sandra Sierra | May 12, 2008 at 4:43 pm
This is truly sad news, Chicago is all about the freedom of self expression through art and music..that’s the beauty of it. Very disappointing news.
1785. Kaitlyn Fergus | May 12, 2008 at 4:43 pm
As someone with family ties to a popular local band (lucky boys confusion), this change would be deeply upsetting. Some of my fondest memories are going to see local bands and Chicago musicians play. The Chicago music scene deserves to live on, so others can encounter the same kind of enjoyment I have.
1786. Josh Gelman | May 12, 2008 at 4:43 pm
PLEASE STOP THIS EVERYONE LIKES THE MUSIC.
1787. Justin "DJ P-KNoW" McAlpine | May 12, 2008 at 4:43 pm
No Way should this legislation be alowed to be passed. If it is the people of Chicago will have no choice but to avenge this injustice, but taking it out on the politicians in the next election.
Elected officials are only in their position because the people put them there. The people have that same power to take them out of office.
Chicago… Stand Up!
1788. Joshua Woods | May 12, 2008 at 4:43 pm
This is ridiculous…a city that is so full of talent and thriving with bands that are bound to make it is being slowly taken away from everyone…
As you can clearly see i’m not the only one that sees the insanity in this ordinance…
PLEASE STOP!
1789. Chris | May 12, 2008 at 4:44 pm
This is crazy.
This is wrong.
Please reconsider this. there has to be a better option.
1790. Blake Talbott | May 12, 2008 at 4:44 pm
Chicago needs to stop this ordinance from happening. I owe all I know about music to the live scene and underground shows. If we dont stop this it’s gonna be a terrible blow to the city, music, and art as a whole.
1791. M Spiro | May 12, 2008 at 4:45 pm
Lets work towards harmony.
1792. Brad Matthew | May 12, 2008 at 4:45 pm
This is ridiculous! No one should need a license to put on a show at an established venue. Stop the BS and play music!
1793. Joshua Bakaitus | May 12, 2008 at 4:45 pm
I am a promoter in Pittsburgh, PA and I feel that this ordinance is completely absurd.
1794. Heidi Kuharich | May 12, 2008 at 4:45 pm
This is shocking! I’ve always felt that Chicago was a city that embraced its culture and individuality. This ordinance will be the death nail of such ideals. What a shame!
1795. Alice Happel | May 12, 2008 at 4:45 pm
NO NO NO TO CHICAGO PROMOTER’S ORDINANCE!!
1796. Ali Ebadi | May 12, 2008 at 4:45 pm
This new addition would place an incredible burden on local musicians, as the change will include local musicians who book their own shows as “event promoters.” This change is especially egregious because it targets venues with less than 500 seats, the same venues where most independent musicians hold concerts. Passage of this amendment would hurt our independent music community, crippling our ability to nurture the art that creates Chicago phenomenon such as The Smashing Pumpkins, Common, Kanye West, Fall Out Boys, Tortoise, Lupe Fiasco and a host of others.
1797. Stephanie Northington | May 12, 2008 at 4:46 pm
One of the things I have enjoyed about Chicago since moving here a few years ago is the small venue music scene. I have friends that come from all over to enjoy the arts, music, and theatre Chicago has to offer. It would be a shame for all this culture to disappear. What would I have to offer my out-of-town guests in the way of entertainment? Don’t pass this ordinance; it would be a travesty if all of the entertainment is allowed only in bigger, less personal venues or out in the suburbs.
1798. Alexander Sputnik | May 12, 2008 at 4:46 pm
As a musician myself I find this ordinance ridiculous…verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry ridiculous. Why stop all these amazing musicians from succeeding at what they do best?
Once again….verrrrrrrrrry ridiculous!
1799. Allison | May 12, 2008 at 4:47 pm
As a musician and actress, I am appalled at the very idea of this ordinance. Those of us who make our livings in the creative arts in Chicago would largely be unemployed and poverty stricken if this travesty is made law. Stifling local music and smaller theater companies will kill a huge part of Chicago’s tourist appeal. The capitol brought in by these venues and artists is enormous, not to mention that those in attendance buy food, pay for lodging and generally shop while in the city. I can not and will not stand for such injustice to be sanctioned while thousands of talented people are left without livelihoods.
1800. Joe Darling | May 12, 2008 at 4:49 pm
we’re desperately trying to validate chicago as a cultural location and this ordinance would set us back drastically. art and culture takes place at all corners of the city while most people are working, watching tv or sleeping. we need to feel liberated as an artistic community and not further restrained by our local government. passing this ordinance will drive even more members of this city’s dynamic community to new york, la, san francisco, seattle, anywhere but where we have to pay to create a strong and diverse creative community. come on, city council! we’re on your side. we want to restore this city to its former glory!
1801. Katie | May 12, 2008 at 4:49 pm
Please let’s not support further restrictions on art and expression. Vote no on this ordinance.
1802. debbie maguire | May 12, 2008 at 4:50 pm
this is seriously ridculous
1803. James Henry | May 12, 2008 at 4:50 pm
I have been playing small venue shows in Chicago for six years. The number of small local bands playing such a wide variety of original and cover music is staggering. I always thought that living so close to such a large and important musical scene was a blessing. Many bands have made a living, some a very nice living, playing in the city to the citizens that especially come out to small shows to see what is new. Every big band started off somewhere small and to stifle creative growth would be a major mistake especially for a city specifically noted for its’ musical history. Who thinks blues and doesn’t think Chicago. The real question is who is set to profit from this? Follow the money trail and see which political friends are set to gain. Go after them as well.
1804. Laura | May 12, 2008 at 4:51 pm
not cool.
not cool at all.
1805. Sean O | May 12, 2008 at 4:52 pm
Chicago lives off of its creative people. We help make this city what it is..Please don’t make us take our creativity elsewhere.
1806. Jessica Z | May 12, 2008 at 4:52 pm
I’m sorry, did i just step into some Orwell futuristic nightmare? Keep your dirty politician hands off our musicians and venues!!!
1807. Todd Kephart | May 12, 2008 at 4:52 pm
This ordinance seems intentionally vague and punitive. It would hurt those who need protection from the “long arm of the law” the most: namely, small, DIY galleries, theaters, and venues. This law is designed to squelch underground art, music, theater and activism. Similar legislation threatens music and culture scenes in other cities (see Seattle’s “teen dance ordinance”). In Seattle’s case, it’s worried suburban parents putting the kybosh on music. Here it is Daley’s mafioso governement trying to cash in…despicable.
1808. Susan Shultz | May 12, 2008 at 4:53 pm
add me to the list, man.
this is fucking insane.
1809. Bryanna Rinaldi | May 12, 2008 at 4:54 pm
This is ridiculous! All it will do is limit the thriving and growth of the city’s art and music scene.
I am strongly opposed!
1810. Lizzy | May 12, 2008 at 4:54 pm
This makes me so upset. The bill is completely unnecessary and ridiculous; let us keep our music scene!! What is this city coming to?
1811. Jen | May 12, 2008 at 4:54 pm
It’s sad to see what the city will do just to make an extra dollar. It’s shameful really, and makes Chicago in general look bad.
1812. Melissa Romito | May 12, 2008 at 4:54 pm
Fucking bullshit….
1813. Shannon Cardeno | May 12, 2008 at 4:56 pm
please vote no for this ordinance, chicago loves its music.
1814. David Merriman | May 12, 2008 at 4:56 pm
Please don’t squash independent shows. They’re the cornerstone of the art community in this city. With our newfound love for inviting some of the best arts festivals(and the international commerce that comes with them) to enrich Chicago, this will be an enormous blow to our city’s image on the national and world stage. It will also guarantee that our city will have no representatives at the future Lollapaloozas and the like if we have nowhere to cut our teeth without major financial backing. $2,000 is very expensive for most artists,and we ARE the “event promoters” for most shows. Not to mention what this will do to the forward-thinking, DIY(Do-It-Yourself) community, which has strong ties in Chicago and has done innumerable things to stimulate local economies and businesses-mostly funded by independent artistic exposition.
As a musician, this is going to make a criminal of me and mine, and I can’t imagine Clear Channel/Live Nation or Jam Productions having any interest in keeping shows affordable, diverse, and/or accessible to the working people of Chicago and the surrounding areas. Corporations seem to be the only beneficiaries here, and what have they done for us lately?
This is a terrible idea. Please find another way to solve whatever problem you’re trying to solve here. And let’s open up a dialog with the people of Chicago before a phantom ordinance changes everything for thousands of people.
1815. Kevin Carey | May 12, 2008 at 4:56 pm
Chicago has one of the most underrated music scenes in the nation. Venues throughout the city are becoming more and more uniform, restricting a band’s choice of where they can, and want to, play. If this ordinance passes, it will only exacerbate Chicago’s dwindling reputation for accessible live music.
1816. Philip Grey | May 12, 2008 at 4:57 pm
absolutely unacceptable.
if this passes there will be an uproar in the entire arts community and the amount of revenue to be lost for the city of chicago is incomprehensible.
1817. Radoslaw Hawryszczuk (Radek) | May 12, 2008 at 4:57 pm
After reading through the whole of Chapter 4-157, Title IV of the Municipal Code of the City of Chicago, I am compelled to pen this letter addressing the unfair provisions contained in the new “Event Promoter” chapter of the city ordinance. As a member of the Chicago music community I feel that if this is allowed to pass it will be the first nail in the coffin, doing more to end smaller events and put venue owners out of business than it will ever accomplish in curbing illegal and dangerous events held within the city limits. Those who choose to operate outside the law will continue to do so while professionals who are operating within the guidelines of the law at safe, licensed facilities will be unfairly penalized for not holding their events in buildings that happen to have more than 500 permanent seats.
This ordinance also states that anyone promoting any event drawing more than 100 people must obtain a license, even if they are working with a well-established and already licensed promoter. The capacity range for these licenses, as outlined in 4-5-010, is Class D ($500) for 100 people or less, Class C ($1,000) for 500 people or less, Class B ($1,500) for 2000 people with Class A ($2,000) being unrestricted. I feel that these capacity price ranges unfairly discriminate against smaller promotional companies and venues that are often at the heart of nightlife communities. For example, most places catering to dance music often only have seats in the form of barstools or booths, no matter how large the actual capacity of the building may be. While the biggest venues are those that are exempt from these stipulations, they are also the ones who should require the most insurance and policing, as they are the establishments catering to thousands to tens-of-thousands of people on any given night. The larger promoters and venues that are exempt from a law that would be effective in making their venues, patrons and employees safer are, in some cases, those that need the stipulations the most. Licensees would also have to carry at least $300,000 in commercial liability insurance which is another difficult hurdle for smaller promotional entities to overcome.
This will be a devastating blow to the Chicago music scene if implemented, and also you’ll most likely see lots of bars go under that depend on local artists organizing and promoting events at their venues to keep business going. If these smaller venues and promotional companies are stifled by these unrealistic financial burdens, there won’t be any artists for the larger national agencies to book and promote. Even outside the realm of nightclubs and music venues, I believe that this will also have an extremely adverse effect on everything from comedy showcases, small theatrical productions, seminars, community organizations, youth programs, artist collectives, activist groups, to fund-raising benefits – basically any smaller cultural happening taking place within the city limits. In a time when the Chicago and national cultural scenes are being taken over by generic entities such as Clear Channel, the city cannot afford to pass legislation that further increases the already high financial difficulty of staging independent events. This will kill what cultural identity the city has left, rendering the landscape even more generic and monopolized than it is now.
The introduction of this new ordinance also overlooks the logistical requirements of enforcing such measures. It will be nearly impossible to effectively enforce this legislation. Are we to believe, that in the face of rising murder and crimes rates, an already taxed Chicago Police Department will have the appropriate resources to stroll into nightclubs every night of the week to ensure compliance? Those at whom this ordinance truly targets — underground promoters and illegal production companies — are going to violate the norms and conventions regardless of the laws on the books. What’s more, this legislation will actually have the effect of driving unlicensed, unsavory or outright dangerous promoters further underground, placing more lives at unnecessary risk and making police enforcement more difficult. It’s impossible to regulate those who have blatant disregard for public safety concerns through legislation, but this particular piece imposes an environment of fear and an additional level of needlessly complex rules on those who mindfully work to ensure compliance with public safety rules. The scope of this legislation is far too broad to have any real effect on the underground, illegal party racket – people who operate outside of the law anyway, and will continue to do so – and those people will continue to operate in the face of this ordinance the dozens of other bits of legislation passed against them in the past. If they failed to follow any of those ordinances, what makes you think they will follow this one?
This legislation places the onus on the promoter, but this is a burden that must be shared in conjunction with the venue. If a venue works with an unlicensed promoter, or does not provide adequate security or enforcement, it is the promoter who gets stuck with the fault. Venues already must be properly licensed with the city, but it is unfair to penalize the promoters who have no choice but to work with them for any violation that is beyond their control. It is a shared responsibility, but ultimately, venues control their own doors. Promoters cannot be held responsible if a venue, even a properly licensed one, skimps on security or fails to control their venue.
It was Mayor Daley who said, “It’s the whole idea of what a city should be: the appreciation of the artistic community. That’s the soul of a city.” This ordinance shows a complete disregard for the artistic community and appears to be drafted by people who are out of touch with those who love Chicago because of its thriving independent art and music scene. As a citizen of this city I am concerned for the future of its cultural climate and for good reason, as arbitrarily broad legislation such as this ordinance is robbing Chicago of its authentic artistic scene, paving the way for a homogenized version where one or two larger companies have a monopoly over the entire city due to the fact that they’re the only ones who can afford to jump through the hoops that destroyed their competitors.
1818. DEM | May 12, 2008 at 4:58 pm
PLEASE DON’T STOP THE MUSIC!!!
1819. Joseph White | May 12, 2008 at 4:58 pm
This is an awful awful idea.
1820. Claire Freehafer | May 12, 2008 at 4:58 pm
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1821. Daniel Swihart | May 12, 2008 at 4:58 pm
I would be greatly saddened to see this city’s fine musical heritage wasted by this ordinance.
1822. Pedro Castro | May 12, 2008 at 4:59 pm
All of us should orderly and peacefully show up on Wednesday at 9:30am and attend the meeting, we would as a community member be given time to speak on the matter before it is voted on.
1823. Brad Miner | May 12, 2008 at 4:59 pm
I still don’t understand why there is still a need for some to blame entertainment for society’s ills. This will only make it even more difficult to survive the independent music scene.
1824. Ana Bermudez | May 12, 2008 at 4:59 pm
Please don’t pass an ordinance that will affect the arts and culture in Chicago.
1825. Mike OBrien | May 12, 2008 at 4:59 pm
“Event Promoter” must be licensed and will pay $500 – $2000 depending on expected audience size.
That sounds like the City is trying to penalize clubs for bringing in a bigger crowd.
1826. Brett Hawthorne | May 12, 2008 at 5:00 pm
We now sit at the very apex of culture in America. this law will probably put us more on level, with say, Sioux Falls. Have some freakin civil pride, Council. You’re not protecting anybody by penalizing the arts community. you’re just killing the art.
1827. Scott Lechowicz | May 12, 2008 at 5:00 pm
Chicago should embrace its music scene not regulate it blindly. Input from those on the ground floor is necessary, which should be an obvious statement.
Take this off the fast track and seek input from voices that were obviously absent when this current form of the legislation was drafted.
Scott Lechowicz
1828. Heather Mitchell | May 12, 2008 at 5:00 pm
This is quite disturbing. I’m calling Manny Flores.
1829. Jenny Blaze | May 12, 2008 at 5:00 pm
Chicago cannot let this ordinance happen! We need to let the city council know Chicago is not going to just kick back and let this happen!!! This could ruin all of the subcultures who have emerged and provide a much more intimate feel to their concerts, events and such than those mass music producing commercial “idols”. I cannot Imagine Chicago without The Metro, Double Door, the Abbey,the Aragon, and many more venues who give local artists a chance. This could mean an end to the underground scene no matter the type. Stiffer laws and punishments can ruin someones life and criminal record over just gathering up some people and playing their music. Why must they try to enforce a mainstream culture where corporate sponsored events and fixed seating would be all that is available!?! That minstream-culture music is garbage! That will shut down Chicago’s local artists who preform in our city for the love of music, just to be heard. Its bad enough they have cameras all over the city to “ensure public safety” what are those cameras going to do when you get shot in front of them, reach out and grab the culprit while the police take 2 weeks to review the camera to find out who did it? WAKE UP PEOPLE! Invasion, big brother telling us that these events are dangerous and harmful to public safety. I also hate the fact they keep bringing up the E2 tragedy. That has nothing to do with the fact the crowd freaked out thinking pepper gas was anthrax or a biochemical attack. Watch the interviews post-tragedy. Every other person admitted to freaking out because they thought they were chocking on anthrax It is the medias fault, once again, for installing fear into a panic prone people who will believe everything on the TV. This ordinance is installing the fear that event promoters are putting people at risk at the events. This ordinance is just another way to take away your right to freedom of speech. Your music.
1830. Jeannie Marcinkowski | May 12, 2008 at 5:01 pm
This is unbelievable, leave musicians, artists and these venues alone! It is mind-blowing to me how many REAL problems this world is full up with and how much time government spends ruining even more lives. Chicago is known for its community of artists- stop trying to ruin our city and save Darfur you fucking assholes!!
1831. joe mama | May 12, 2008 at 5:01 pm
Fuck tha police
Comin straight from the underground…
1832. Michael R Martello | May 12, 2008 at 5:01 pm
I am moving out of this city if this law passes and has the consequences we all fear! Outrageous! What’s next, charge fees to galleries with under 200 paintings? Outlaw books that don’t make the New York Times best-seller list? These smaller and unconventional venues are all that developing artists have. To stifle them with this ill-conceived law is to sentence Chicago to a slow cultural death. Please don’t let this pass.
1833. Aubrey Eckes | May 12, 2008 at 5:02 pm
Chicago bureaucracy at it’s finest. Please accept this comment entry as my formal petition signature.
1834. Peter | May 12, 2008 at 5:02 pm
As a musician, and Dj I wonder why we are coming under attack by the city. We are one of the main attractions, both to residents and tourists. As property taxes climb and foreclosure are at an all time high since the depression. You have to wonder if next we see a bunch of empty venues…
Next you will hear the sound of the yuppies fleeing back to the suburbs, and who will buy those million dolor condos then?
1835. Alexandria Moretti | May 12, 2008 at 5:03 pm
Really, I mean, really? This idea of a law is completely ridiculous.
1836. Dave Burlingame | May 12, 2008 at 5:03 pm
I am whole heartedly against this law being passed. I understand the concern of maintaining a safe environment for live performance, but I feel that responsibility should rest on the venue and not outside promotion. This law, if passed will certainly limit the live performance scene in Chicago and effectively hurt local economy.
As a performer and music lover, native to Chicago, I can’t see how this law benefits anyone
1837. Shane Hamman | May 12, 2008 at 5:03 pm
While what occurred at the E2 nightclub was a grave tragedy, this proposed ordinance is simply not the solution to such a problem. Rather, the solution is in the actual implementation of laws already on the books. Such enforcement would have been enough to prevent E2, and it is sufficient to prevent any similar incidents in the future. Please add my name to the list of those opposing the “Promoter’s Ordinance.”
1838. David Korzatkowski | May 12, 2008 at 5:04 pm
I think this ordinance is ridiculous. One of the things that sets the Chicago Theatre scene apart from cities like NY is it’s rich community of small theatre companies and ensembles. Passing this ordinance will destroy this community. Don’t let it happen.
1839. Bryan Youngsma | May 12, 2008 at 5:04 pm
This ordinance is putting our great city at risk of losing one of the things that makes it so great. To make it hard for such great venues as Schubas and Double Door to book some of the premeir indie bands in the country and help expose the citizens of Chicago to such an amazing array of culture would be a great disservice to everyone in Chicago and out. I am whole heartedly against this proprosal and hope that the elected officials come to their senses and see what damage can be done with it’s passing.
1840. DJ iRon a.k.a. Tha Rockness Ronsta | May 12, 2008 at 5:04 pm
like joe mama said…
1841. Sarah | May 12, 2008 at 5:05 pm
I think that this new law is another way for the government to control the music scene, and make even more money off of the ones that cannot afford it. Come on seriously if every band that I know had to have a promoter and then pay them on top of that the licenses they would never make any money.Thus making bands ask themselves, “Why bother playing shows in venus well known as the House of Blues, Double Door and the small bar down the road.” Music is not just something us kids do, no matter what age you know that the Chicago local music is what keeps music thriving as a city. All the bands that have “MADE IT” can afford this law, but the up and coming not yet signed bands cannot. If you make this a law you are killing the Vibrant Chicago Music Scene that I know and love. So consider this before you start charging these lesser known up and coming bands, cause not only do the fans suffer but you are discouraging all the bands that could have been.
1842. Celia Bucci | May 12, 2008 at 5:05 pm
You’ve got to be kidding me! The greatest thing about Chicago is it’s local arts culture. I’d have left a long time ago if not for it. And I can assure you that no Alderman who votes in favor of this ordinance will get my vote. Way to turn the city into the most boring, plastic place on earth!
1843. Melisa | May 12, 2008 at 5:05 pm
This ordinance is stupid.
1844. landon | May 12, 2008 at 5:05 pm
Chicago city politics are always interesting (remember the X’s on Meigs?) but this is just insane. Much harm, no good.
landon
1845. Jenna Singer | May 12, 2008 at 5:06 pm
The Chicago local music scene has been one of the most positive aspects of growing up in this area. The talent of local bands and the availability of concerts has been a large part of my life. I can’t imagine not having a place for local bands to play. I really hope that the legislators change their mind and consider the negative impact that this would have on local talent and fans around the Chicago-land area.
1846. Krista O | May 12, 2008 at 5:07 pm
All who can should show up at 121 N. LaSalle on Wednesday morning. This ordinance couldn’t be more absurd!
1847. Sim Ross | May 12, 2008 at 5:07 pm
Chicago would be nothing without it’s music and theater scene! Keep it alive! Don’t mess with a beautiful thing!
1848. Alex Yablon | May 12, 2008 at 5:07 pm
Gene Schulter, the alderman most identified with the ordinance, says of less establish promoters, “There’s no security. They over-market. … You have 500 people showing up for a venue that can only accommodate 250, so people are waiting [outside] and disturbing the quality of life for people in the neighborhood. … Now, they’re going to be held accountable,” (from Fran Spielman’s Sun-Times article, “Rules inspired by E2 stampede approved”) He is trying to penalize small promoters for being successful. Besides, anyone who lives in a neighborhood with a successful small venue is probably aware of this inherent aspect of city life, if they don’t in fact cherish vibrant street life. This is so far from dealing with the problems presented by E2. It demonstrates a contempt for those who make this city an exciting place to live.
The problem with the E2 disaster was not the fact that these promoters were small, independent, and unregulated (they were, in fact, supposed to be regulated) – it was that they were incompetent. Pricing out smaller promoters won’t prevent disasters like these. Has Schulter ever heard of Altamont? The Stones could’ve paid these fees, but it wouldn’t change the actions of belligerent, incompetent security guards (like the pepper spraying jerks at E2). Schulter, seeing nightlife as a potential for disaster, would shut it down rather than find real solutions.
1849. Michael | May 12, 2008 at 5:08 pm
This is ridiculous. Keep culture alive and allow artists to put their work out there for everyone to enjoy.
1850. Alan | May 12, 2008 at 5:08 pm
Scrap this ridiculous ordinance.
1851. Jenny Carr | May 12, 2008 at 5:08 pm
In a time when community-building and participation in collective events is increasing harder to come by, please do not make it impossible for people to organize and support the arts. With so many people spending time indoors, locked into the warm glow of their computers and televisions – don’t take away one of the very things that makes living in urban areas so spectacular. Let the bland, mind-numbing dulling of culture stop at the edges of our suburbs, please!
I DO NOT SUPPORT THIS ORDINANCE!
1852. Dan | May 12, 2008 at 5:08 pm
Imagine how many more drunk drivers there will be if this ordinance passes and clubs are forced into the suburbs.
1853. Jim Matthews | May 12, 2008 at 5:08 pm
From the same people that made a laughing stock of this city when they didn’t have anything more important to do than ban fois gras in restaurants. With this ordinance and the killing of artistic growth on the city scene not only does the city lose millions in revenue bringing suburban dollars into it , but on the whole , makes this city that was built on talent and creativity and free expression look like a desolate artistic wasteland, I wonder if this passes whose pockets get filled with the money from all these additional fees. You would think that this supposedly forward thinking administration would find a way to exploit our terrific small venue artists instead of stifling them
1854. Dee | May 12, 2008 at 5:08 pm
WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO FREEDOM OF SPEECH. WHO DOES THE GOVERNMENT THINK THEY ARE. WHAT A BUNCH OF $#@$%#%$. PRETTY SOON WE’LL HAVE NO FREEDOM LEFT AT ALL
1855. Nathan | May 12, 2008 at 5:09 pm
I don’t agree with this thing that everyone is talking about and I vote NO as born/raised citizen of Chicago. If this law passes we will be the laughing stock of the country. No one will want to go to the Olympics in Chicago if you can’t enjoy the musical nightlife culture. How many people come to this city to enjoy a jazz or blues club? How much money will you be losing there?…but I’m sure people will stop playing music, people stopped drinking during prohibition right?
1856. Kenneth Heike | May 12, 2008 at 5:10 pm
This is a totally unnecessary ordinance. Scrap it.
1857. Joan Curto | May 12, 2008 at 5:10 pm
This is right up there with banning pate! What can possibly be gained by this? As a city that promotes tourism, it will essentially kill the existence of many of the independant arts we so proudly herald as uniquely Chicago.
Greedy greedy greedy is what it seems to me. Oh and also shameful.
1858. Sherry Rogge | May 12, 2008 at 5:11 pm
I live in NW Indiana and Chicago is where we go for entertainment..but we prefer a smaller venue when we go out..I can’t believe the city is trying to pass this
1859. chicago music fan | May 12, 2008 at 5:11 pm
one of the most attractive parts of chicago is it’s great music scene, and this ordinance will just strip that away from the amazing city. people will no longer have this awed view of chicago.
1860. jamie jackson | May 12, 2008 at 5:11 pm
This ordinance is a direct way of ruining an enitire scene of music and culture. The underground or unsigned artists who live and love what they do are being paralized by this. It is totally unfair and careless to the youth of the city. I am a musician and have been playing for 20 years in small clubs and venues and have promoted them for as many years. What happened to our freedom? vote no to this ordinance.
1861. Jade Ingardona | May 12, 2008 at 5:11 pm
This is absolutely ridiculous.
1862. Nate York | May 12, 2008 at 5:12 pm
absurd.
1863. Whitney Johnson | May 12, 2008 at 5:12 pm
The last group who should be targeted for expensive licensure fees would be Chicago’s event promoters. Deregulation of the music industry will serve the public good far more than restrictions without clear links to safety or well-being.
Though I’m often in favor of social programming to benefit those in need, this ordinance seems to be in favor of the pockets of Chicago’s political machine.
I’ve contacted Alderman Scott Waguespack here in the 32nd Ward. Eveyone else reading, please do the same!
1864. Sarah Mayer | May 12, 2008 at 5:13 pm
This might actually be one of the most ridiculous ideas on record.
1865. Christopher Rhodes | May 12, 2008 at 5:13 pm
Keep Chicago’s Nightlife ALIVE!!
1866. Eric Stein | May 12, 2008 at 5:13 pm
There must be a better way to regulate promoters. Don’t leave small businesses in the dust. Don’t squash outlets where theater and music are being shaped and molded!
1867. virginia montgomery | May 12, 2008 at 5:13 pm
People making music are not messing with your personal incomes…We are keeping a lot of people amused and happy to be alive… Music is in fact life affirming and I am trying to figure out why there are so many folks in high places who have no common sense when it comes to what keeps people peaceful and or inspired despite the daily grind of work and kissing undeserving assess -9-5 daily… Leisure time may not be your concern but how do YOU unwind and what would it feel like to you if someone came along and made it virtually impossible to afford it? ++ My observation is that Unhappy people are responsible for crushing joy… Evolution says that we are smart enough to figure out what makes us unhappy…
1868. Elizabeth Harper | May 12, 2008 at 5:13 pm
I oppose this legislation. I don’t see the point, unless it’s to punish performers and censor free expression and hurt local businesses, such as bars and restaurants, and keep people alone in their homes watching television.
1869. Sarah Jersild | May 12, 2008 at 5:13 pm
I am strongly against this ordinance, which would cripple the music and arts scene. It’s a short-sighted overreaction to the E3 disaster, which could have been prevented by enforcing laws that are already on the books. Aldermen, don’t mess up one of the things that makes this city great!
1870. David Flores | May 12, 2008 at 5:14 pm
This is an unacceptable law!
Of course I am against it, without Chicago’s culture its nothing more than a suburb!
1871. Beth Berendsen | May 12, 2008 at 5:14 pm
Why ruin the culture and collectivism of neighborhood shows, local and small venues, and diversity of available entertainment city-wide? Vote NO on this ordinance!
1872. Bob | May 12, 2008 at 5:15 pm
Ridiculous insane and utterly crazy. i’d type up pages of my thoughts but I think the other posts say what I wanted. Let’s fight this!
1873. Brandon | May 12, 2008 at 5:15 pm
This is ridiculous. Who thought up this crap?
1874. james maher | May 12, 2008 at 5:16 pm
while i’m sure there is some merit to requiring some amount of insurance in the event of an accident, it sounds like most of the rest of the requirements are typical chicago bureaucratic crap!
1875. Steven Montague | May 12, 2008 at 5:16 pm
Add my name to that petition. Do not pass this garbage.
1876. Ana Alvarez | May 12, 2008 at 5:16 pm
Please do not pass this ordinance.
1877. Celia | May 12, 2008 at 5:16 pm
this is completely wrong. we have freedom of speech!!
its in the second amendment.
you can fine us for putting up flyers or things like that.
i think the government thinks they have way too much
power.
they have no right just because they are the government.
kthanksbye!
1878. Erick Blake | May 12, 2008 at 5:16 pm
I’m speechless that our legislators think that this is something that could possibly affect positive change. Is this a priority brought fourth by the people of Chicago? I think not!
1879. Craig Matthew Gronowski | May 12, 2008 at 5:16 pm
This ordinance passing would be a profound tragedy. An absolute cultural disaster. Is the the time in this city and this country’s global standing where we need to further punish those who live in and enjoy an outlet as healthy and beautiful as live music?
Absolutely not. This must not pass!!!!!!
Signed,
Craig M Gronowski
1880. David Emanuel | May 12, 2008 at 5:17 pm
This ordinance is absurd and wrong.
1881. Diane K. Stojentin | May 12, 2008 at 5:17 pm
If this gets passed, it will be absolutely horrible for everyone in this city. There’s just no reason for it. Who comes up with this kind of stuff? Musicians and actors don’t make enough money as it is – it’s just preposterous to think that such a thing could actually be permitted to happen. I absolutely object. And saying the ordinance is inspired by E2 is the icing on the cake. That venue was way overcrowded, and most people actually know how to handle themselves and behave, even if pepper spray is present.
1882. Prescott Tolk | May 12, 2008 at 5:18 pm
As a comedian who moved to Chicago for its accessibility as a performer and a producer, it is frightening to think that it all can all evaporate in a the blink of an eye. While such an ordinance might seem like a good idea for creating a new revenue stream for the city’s coffers in the short-term, it will ultimately reduce revenues by cutting sales tax returns from bar and food sales at the many venues that house these performances. The part about mandatory insurance is completely unnecessary as the businesses are already insured. Please do not pass this horrible, horrible ordinance.
1883. Kayla Harris | May 12, 2008 at 5:18 pm
Please do not let this pass!
1884. Nancy Elser | May 12, 2008 at 5:19 pm
I wish to show my disapproval of this ordinance by leaving this comment! I live in San Francisco but absolutely LOVE the small music clubs in Chicago, and visit often when I am in town. It’s one of the main draws of Chicago for me, personally.
1885. Lizzy Wozny | May 12, 2008 at 5:19 pm
to pass this would be a detriment to city income, the city culture, and residents and visitors alike.
Vote No
1886. Jake Hennes | May 12, 2008 at 5:19 pm
Please do not pass this stifling ordinance.
1887. Bonita T | May 12, 2008 at 5:20 pm
If this ordinance is so necessary, why wasn’t it passed 5 years ago? It makes no sense to place financial hurdles on responsible club owners and promoter who have been conscientious in business for years. It only punishes those who share no responsibility for the E2 tragedy. If only the City of Chicago was equally blame free.
1888. Tim Murray | May 12, 2008 at 5:20 pm
Chicago is known for it’s music diversity. Take that away and you risk homogenization of our diverse city and inevitable population loss. Don’t let this pass!
1889. James W. | May 12, 2008 at 5:20 pm
I am opposed to this ordinance.
1890. Lindsey Hoffman | May 12, 2008 at 5:21 pm
It’s obvious that this ordinance wasn’t thought out. It saddens me, and I will be so ashamed of my city if it passes.
Please, PLEASE don’t let this ordinance pass.
1891. Antony Nettleton | May 12, 2008 at 5:21 pm
Please can someone see sense and stop this ridiculous ordinance
1892. Emma Abraham | May 12, 2008 at 5:21 pm
I do understand where they are coming from with this ordinance, to a degree – fly-by-night event organizers can and do absond with our hard-earned money, either intentionally or because they are just sloppy and unbusinesslike. But there has GOT to be a better way to go about this, that won’t cost us what makes the Chicago music and theatre scene so vibrant.
1893. gavin robinsoin | May 12, 2008 at 5:22 pm
please, please vote no.
listen to the people.
1894. Deb | May 12, 2008 at 5:22 pm
If this ordinance had been in place ten or fifteen years ago, I can’t imagine who I would be today! My youth would be virtually non-existant. There aren’t words strong enough to express how devastating passing this law could be … please don’t!
1895. John Campbell | May 12, 2008 at 5:22 pm
Local artists and small venues are where music begins. Putting further financial strain on people who are already struggling will have negative affects on Chicago culture, pure and simple.
1896. Joshua Christensen | May 12, 2008 at 5:22 pm
One of the biggest reasons I moved to Chicago 2 years ago was for the fact that every time I had visited I was so impressed with the amount of diversity and culture this city has. This law shouldn’t have even been brought to the table with it’s loose terms and extensive administration requirements.
1897. Lucas King | May 12, 2008 at 5:22 pm
I am 100% against this proprosal and hope that the elected officials realize the damage that will be done if this passes.
1898. peter z | May 12, 2008 at 5:22 pm
This CANNOT be passed!
Particularly bad in a time when art, music and other cultural movements are so important, these are critical vehicles for self expression, engagement and just plan fun postive energy. This is upsetting that anyone would want to regulate and formalize the “arts” in the broader form as they are inherently about the lack of these formalities. bummer, i am optimistic!
1899. Dave | May 12, 2008 at 5:23 pm
A good portion of my hard earned money and time goes to enjoying and supporting live music in venues across Chicago. It is one of the main reasons I call this city home.
I am sure we can agree that E2 was a horrible tragedy that needs to be prevented in the future but this ordinance is not the right approach. In fact, it will drive shows underground to less safe venues like peoples homes, garages, warehouses, etc. Other problems like fights, underage drinking and drug use will go on unchecked. Promoters will be impossible to find because they won’t be there at all.
Let’s keep Chicago’s music scene safe using the system and ordinances in place.
1900. Elizabeth Bremner | May 12, 2008 at 5:23 pm
I believe this is simply a law to gain revenue. Basicly, with this ordinace in effect, I would not be allowed to have an art show for my students in the school gym. It is insane to think that my children will be denied their first amendment right to freedom of expression.
1901. Michael Wieland | May 12, 2008 at 5:23 pm
As a lifelong Chicagoan and attendee of over 500 concerts, many of which were at places that will be most affected by this ordinance, I am incredulous at the prospect of this actually passing. In the long run, this will hurt the city more than it will help, trust me.
1902. Zack Meads | May 12, 2008 at 5:23 pm
Please don’t do this! One of the only reasons we (my wife and I) come to your city is to breathe in the electronic dance culture your city gave birth to. House Music! How can you rename a street after one of the godfathers of house, have a Frankie Nuckles Day, yet turn your back on the artists and dj’s that keep your nightlife rich with a tapestry of sounds for people to dance to?
One day I would love to dj in your city, but your ordinance would make that nearly impossible when you are taking bread and butter from the promoters in the fashion you propose. They would have to starve or I would have to be a sellout to my art and my passion to draw the kind of crowd a promoter would want to invest in me with! This is ridiculous!
You will lose tourist dollars! You aren’t taking into account how many hotel rooms are booked on any given day, how many restaurants we frequent, your CTA that is used by us, and all the shopping we do at various retail businesses.
I live in Texas, and they say Austin is the live music capital of the world. Some people seriously doubt that and believe Chicago to be that city. Are you willing to solidify that title for Austin so there are no more contenders to that throne?
Think about what you are doing! This is insane!
-Zack Meads
San Antonio, TX
Tourist/DiscJockey/Producer/Remixer
1903. Chris Jepson | May 12, 2008 at 5:24 pm
As a music and arts supporter, as well as a tax-payer and active voter, I strongly oppose this proposal. Please vote NO.
1904. john polydoros | May 12, 2008 at 5:24 pm
The city of Chicago has had a long and illustrious history of amazing underground artists and venues. It is, in my, and many others opinions, one of the things that makes this city great. What we are looking at now is another in a long line of ways that the city is looking to create revenue for itself. If there was a way of knowing that this money would actually go to some greater good, Im sure we all might feel differently, but unfortunately we all know it will not. Not only will this hurt the small bar owner, the independent music promoter, and the small time bands, all of whom are scraping by these days anyway, but it will also have an ill affect on the amazing sub-cultures in, and around Chicago that help this city thrive, both in an economic and creative way. What we will have is a live music prohibition, forcing those of in, and around the area to push our underground music even further underground, in turn making us “criminals” in our own backyards, or we will simply look for venues outside of the city. Not only is this not a good idea for fans, creators, bookers and promoters of live music, it also will create a monopoly for the larger venues that the vast majority of us cannot play, book at, or promote within anyway. If this legislation passes, it will not only be a travesty against what I believe to be one of the finest, and most exciting live music cities in the nation, but it will also be a stifling of the creative voice inside of us all, and in the end, where will it stop. When state and local government tell us when and where we can preform, how long will it be until they tell us what we can preform.
1905. Rachel M. | May 12, 2008 at 5:24 pm
This ordinance discourages and devalues the long time standing the city of Chicago has had in its Rock and Roll roots. Chicago is part of the history of Rock and Roll, and to have it come to an end out be devistating.
Bands are nothing without their promoters and their street teams. And this ordinance will do nothing much take away the hard work and appreciation these bands have worked all their lives for.
It would be an utter travisty to see the Chicago music scene go under because of this silly ordinance. We work hard to support those bands that truly bring us joy, would it be wise to end such an incredible happiness?
Look at all the successful promoters out there that started at the meer age of 18. They wouldnt have had that opportunity if they were required to have a liscense.
Being a promoter myself, and do find it to be very effective,this ordinance should NOT be passed, and promoters should be of any age, and should be able to promote the bands any way they know how.
1906. Sarah Lynch | May 12, 2008 at 5:24 pm
I am opposed to this ordinance.
1907. Dexsta DVS | May 12, 2008 at 5:24 pm
Stop wasting tax dollars on an ordinance that’s oppresive to up and coming artists/promoters. Why don’t you write up a new ordinance BANNING illegal alien operated food carts throughout the city that create LITTER! Make them ALL have city issued vendor licenses!
1908. John Clark | May 12, 2008 at 5:24 pm
This is completely absurd! Chicago has always been known for its music scene-one of the reasons I love this city is because of its music-so many gifted artists have come from here it’s impossible to list them all.If this is passed,it will destroy the vibrant culture that has made this city what it is-a mecca for some of the most influential and inspiring music to ever come from the midwest.
Pardon my french,but FUCK THAT SHIT!
1909. Neal Daniels | May 12, 2008 at 5:24 pm
PLEASE do not pass this law.
What about all the independant bands that have worked so hard to market themselves? What about all the great venues in Chicago that will loose business and popularity? What about the name CHICAGO! A city that is known for the outstanding number of independant artists! This law would not only limit MY OWN career as a working musician, but it will take away the pride of all the people who support local music.
I hope we can reslove this some other way!
PLEASE-
1910. Karl Briedrick | May 12, 2008 at 5:24 pm
This ordinance plops a big piece of bullshit in a relatively bullshit-free music scene. The city of Chicago will only do damage to the music that serves both locals and tourists so well.
1911. Alex | May 12, 2008 at 5:24 pm
Why would anyone want this? Who does it benefit?
1912. Bill Woodlock | May 12, 2008 at 5:25 pm
Please do not do this to chicago music scene. The resulting hike in ticket prices/lower ticket sales will destroy an industry that has been very responsible thus far.
1913. Tate Burns | May 12, 2008 at 5:25 pm
Who stands to benefit from an ordinance like this? Absolutely insane and unbelievable this could even be on the table.
1914. Emily Rapport | May 12, 2008 at 5:25 pm
The “problem” for artists is that the arts make lots of money; cultural production is a growing industry and we need to stay in control of the methods of production and promotion. Business people, developers, and City Officials are beginning to see art as a means to earn revenue (art auctions are another exploitative measure) and cash in on cultural tourism. I have no problem with promoting our diverse cultural scene, that is good for artists and the city. Unfortunately, the “all eyes on the bottom-line” approach is not sustainable if we truly want to be a world class city. Limiting ourselves to larger venues disallows new artistic growth, the creative risk available to artists within smaller venues, and makes it more difficult for emerging artists to find public venue in which to perform. Ultimately, this type of ordinance will lose Chicago the revenue and attention is seeks and currently deserves.
1915. KP | May 12, 2008 at 5:26 pm
This will completely destroy the rich musical and theatrical history that Chicago has. I’m absolutely against it!
1916. Nikki | May 12, 2008 at 5:26 pm
This is B.S.!!!
Part of what makes Chicago, Chicago is the music for me.
!#%&@$%&@!%^!@%*
>:[[[[
1917. Wayne | May 12, 2008 at 5:26 pm
Please let everyone you know that we need to save the city from this cultural destruction.
1918. vera Principe | May 12, 2008 at 5:26 pm
instead of going after the music “promoters”, why not go after the gang bangers killing kids in the city of chicago? maybe if these gangmembers got introduced to music at an early age, they would not be on the streets now. what next, bulldozers in the night tearing down the small venues for “security reasons”???
VOTE NO ON THIS ORDINANCE!!!!
1919. panda | May 12, 2008 at 5:27 pm
NO WAY!
1920. Brian Ashby | May 12, 2008 at 5:27 pm
I strongly oppose this ordinance, and agree with the other signatories that it borders on the absurd. If you’d like to continue enjoying the benefits of the wealthy young demographic flocking to this city, councilmen and women, don’t look the gift horse in the mouth. This is what they’re here for. If you’d like to send them, along with all the faculty and staff or your major cultural institutions, running back to the coasts or to the smaller midwestern Chicagos-to-be, sign away!!
1921. Stephen PIneros | May 12, 2008 at 5:27 pm
It would be absolutely narrow-minded to effectively supress such an important cultural establishment in Chicago. I find it pathetic that the city can support “higher” forms of art, yet obstruct what obviously means a lot to many people. Please rethink this ordinance.
1922. Terri Vizzone | May 12, 2008 at 5:27 pm
Chicago has a world class reputation for consistent creative exceptional venues of ALL TYPES of music for all types of music lovers and now you are trying to stifle that creativity so that only the large venues with $$$$ can have an opportunity to showcase their talent. We have always been a city of that prides itself on showcasing
our local talent…..SHAME ON YOU!!!!! VOTE NO!
1923. Christopher Schooley | May 12, 2008 at 5:27 pm
You have got to be joking. This ordinance is a slap in the face of everything that makes Chicago the city that it is. No, No, No. A thousand times no.
1924. Paul Fagen | May 12, 2008 at 5:27 pm
Chicago has become as the preeminent hub of new, innovative theater. Even the London Times identified Chicago as the center of new theater in the U.S. To create obstacles to this creativity makes bad theatrical sense, economic sense, and tourism sense. Block this ordinance and allow Chicago to continue being a creative city.
1925. ginny | May 12, 2008 at 5:28 pm
So this insane law would apply to bands touring through the city of Chicago as well?
Cultural suicide.
Who’s idea was it to initiate such a fatal blow to Chicago’s creative community? And why is it being pushed through in such a speedy fashion?
Sounds like some shady politics by some terrified puritanical prudes, or some strong-arm tactics by the higher-ups in the music industry. Maybe this is their way of trying to maintain control of an ever-collapsing market (thanks to the internet)?
Mostly it just sounds so outrageous that it must be a late April fool’s day joke. Right?
I hope so. Because it’s sheer nonsense.
1926. Luke Jones | May 12, 2008 at 5:28 pm
This appears unnecessarily restrictive on smaller players. Please reconsider.
1927. Mary | May 12, 2008 at 5:28 pm
This is insane. It would literally end all music in Chicago except for the big time bands. Even then, venues would close down and the scene would die. Victory would have no chance of surviving and they’ve brought up some talented bands. Ultimately, the city would loose money because music is one of the major attractions. I love Chicago and I know people that travel from all over the U.S. just to see Chicago bands. That won’t happen anymore if they pass this ordinance. Even the universities would be effected by it because many music majors attend Chicago universities and other music colleges in the area.
1928. Dan Siakel | May 12, 2008 at 5:28 pm
This ordinance targets a specific population of the poor living in Chicago: musicians and musicians who attempt to support other musicians. Voting for this ordinance would effectively kill a scene that makes no profit and has no interest in turning a profit. We reserve the right organize–an extension of our right to starve.
1929. Bria Servoss | May 12, 2008 at 5:28 pm
Please consider how this sort of ordinance could stifle Chicago’s artists and musicians, as well as the huge impact it will definitely have on Chicago culture. This is a ridiculous idea, and there is NO place for it here, or any other city for that matter. Vote NO.
1930. cody hudson | May 12, 2008 at 5:28 pm
vote NO, this is not needed.
1931. Joe Ventress | May 12, 2008 at 5:28 pm
This an absurd consideration. I am a Los Angeles native now residing in Chicago, I make my living photographing music shows in and around town, my life’s blood is the small music venue and the emerging artists that play and work in them. This is no way in which to conduct business in a city known world wide for its vibrant music scene. If this ordinance passes I will leave the city for greener pastures, I will exit with my wife, both of our tuition payments (UIC and Columbia) our rent, our creativity and our energy to a more receptive environment in which to live our lives and ply our trades (Photography/Film/Video, Environmental Sciences). DO NOT pass this ordinance as it is written or any version remotely resembling its current form. I have read it, it is not in the cities best interest.
Thank you,
Joe Ventress
1932. Nate Seider | May 12, 2008 at 5:28 pm
There are countless DJs, musicians, actors and other performers that would never have gotten their break had this ordinance been put into effect in the past, and the city of Chicago will suffer immeasurable damage if it is passed. Chicago has risen in the ranks to be one of the nation’s premier cities for cultural arts, and that includes ALL artforms. Please do not let this ordinance pass!
1933. David Sorich | May 12, 2008 at 5:28 pm
This is ridiculous. Chicago Machine Politics is at it again, i wonder who is getting paid off this time.
1934. Curt McCarthy | May 12, 2008 at 5:29 pm
TURN DOWN THIS ORDINANCE ASAP
As a musician I know first hand the large scale of people that use local music and various small events as a means of legal entertainment and even in many instances a way to raise money for worthy and honorable charities. Chicago is heralded across the nation as having one of the richest scenes for various forms of art and to pass this into a law would be a slap in the face of the city itself.
The requirements under this bill WILL shut down Chicago’s valued cultural scene and waste the manpower of the police department on pointless controls.
AS A CITIZEN OF CHICAGO I DEMAND FOR THIS ORDINANCE TO BE THROWN OUT.
1935. Todd Baran | May 12, 2008 at 5:29 pm
This ordinance has the potential to ruin Chicago’s bustling music scene, please don’t allow it to pass
1936. Diane Nettleton | May 12, 2008 at 5:29 pm
Dumb politicians – stop the madness
1937. Jim Grace | May 12, 2008 at 5:29 pm
As a person that goes almost exclusively to small music venues and small theaters I am strongly opposed to any ordinance that threatens these businesses. This is a major part of what Chicago is all about…
1938. marcus aurelius | May 12, 2008 at 5:29 pm
I frequent Chicago myself and perform at a lot of these smaller venues. Passing this would greatly hinder a lot of smaller venues’ ability to have events or nights where music is strictly the focus. There already is a lack of funds pretty much anywhere in the industry as a whole (let alone the niche genre I perform in (House Music)), and this is going to hurt venues’ and promoters’ ability to bring in acts people want to see. In turn, that draws less crowds and draws less revenue for themselves (and the city of Chicago generally speaking as well). Why would I want to go to a place that is no different than a corner bar?
1939. Lois Barliant | May 12, 2008 at 5:30 pm
To close small venues of creativity is to close the birthplace of creativity. I’m sure that Vi Daley would never be so crass as to bow to moneyed interests. I’m sure that Chicago, looking again any any law stiflling the arts, will seek every possible means to continue supporting the small programs that have brought so much vitality to the city on the lake.
1940. Andy Cash | May 12, 2008 at 5:30 pm
It is sad to see the Nazi’s won WWII. Why else would our democratic government pass this ordinance? It looks like it’s time to stock up on weapons cuz a new war is about to brew if it does. This time it wil be a civil war. It is time to end this suppression, oppression and acts of aggression by our nonrepresentative government.
1941. Sarah Dandelles | May 12, 2008 at 5:30 pm
Chicago’s independent music and theatre scenes make it a unique place to work and live, the only North American city of its kind, where artists can still afford to thrive while doing unique and interesting work they believe in. Please do not allow Olympic visions and city/corporate greed take this amazing cultural mecca apart at its seams.
1942. Brian Sandstrom | May 12, 2008 at 5:30 pm
Vote NO on this ordinance !
1943. Bianca J | May 12, 2008 at 5:30 pm
As a Minnesotan, I often travel to Chicago to see the many musical performances that happen, and I appericiate the low ticket prices that many of the venues offer. This ordinance would only hurt the city, in which many people, like myself, will be forced to not travel to Chicago as often as we would love too, because things would get too expensive. In what seems like the downfall of our economy, the only outlet many of us have is seeing live shows for a low price. By taking that away, what would outside travelers have to look forward to anymore?
1944. marcus aurelius | May 12, 2008 at 5:31 pm
I would also like to note that I am from Milwaukee, WI and don’t support such rubbish.
1945. Madeline Shea | May 12, 2008 at 5:31 pm
Please vote against this ordinance as it would be detrimental to Chicago’s very unique and widely respected local music scene.
1946. Jamie | May 12, 2008 at 5:31 pm
It’s sad when a city council is so far removed from the community that the represent that they could pass a law like this. Why do they think so many people move to Chicago? Without a thriving arts community, what’s the point of city life?
1947. Jeremy Beckford | May 12, 2008 at 5:32 pm
Please do not pass this ordinance. Chicago’s attentive music scene is what caused me to move to this great city 2 years ago and continues to be at the center of my life here in this great city.
As a teacher in CPS, I see the need for smaller shows that cater to individual tastes almost daily. We cannot let this fail. Please reconsider this proposal as it would severely hurt the city I hold dear.
1948. Chloe Nettleton | May 12, 2008 at 5:32 pm
Vote no
1949. Michael Cody | May 12, 2008 at 5:32 pm
For all the reasons that have been listed and for many more that should be obvious to anyone with an ounce of common sense, I strongly oppose this ordinance.
1950. Ryan Harkins | May 12, 2008 at 5:32 pm
If this destructive ordinance is passed, then the “Sweet Home Chicago” renowned for it’s music and arts scene will turn bitter, cold, and lose it’s luster.
Save the local scenes!
1951. George Hoffman | May 12, 2008 at 5:32 pm
I say we just put a tax on culture …. why not.
1952. Byron DeBord | May 12, 2008 at 5:32 pm
I feel strongly that this ordinance will hurt Chicago and should not be passed. There are other ways of ensuring safe concerts. Please give thoughtful reflection on better ways to address this problem. Thank you.
1953. Alli Libb | May 12, 2008 at 5:32 pm
As someone who goes to tons of shows throughout the year and who prefers to see artists in small venues, this ordinance is completely insane. I also help promote an artist here in the city and this would greatly affect him as well. We need to save the music!!!
1954. Rob Seal | May 12, 2008 at 5:33 pm
This law should not be passed. New music thrives in independent, smaller venues that earn little but give so much back to the community. You would be doing Chicago a severe injustice.
Rob Seal
1955. David Saslavsky | May 12, 2008 at 5:33 pm
Chicago’s vibrant music scene is one of the biggest reasons why I choose to live in this city.
Please do not let this pass.
1956. Jason Lichon | May 12, 2008 at 5:33 pm
This is a completely unnecessary ordinance that will stifle creative endeavors within the city. There is no need to regulate this aspect of life and commerce in Chicago. It sounds like a concept that was dreamed up by bureaucrats who have no idea of the implications that this will have for the citizens of the city.
1957. Daphne | May 12, 2008 at 5:33 pm
This atrocious attempt to stifle Chicago’s fantastic live music scene is just another testament to the city’s inability to properly allocate their funds! I vehemently oppose this ordinance!
1958. David Reidy | May 12, 2008 at 5:33 pm
Chicago’s music scene–and the independent character of the city’s arts scene–is part of the city’s lifeblood, and one of the reasons I choose to live here. I want the events I attend to be safe, but this ordinance would seem to limit the kind of secure, well run music events I and so many others enjoy most. Please protect the music scene and the do-it-yourself ethic that makes it such an attraction.
1959. Didi | May 12, 2008 at 5:33 pm
There are better ways for Chicago to ensure safe venues than requiring prohibitively expensive/complicated insurance and licensing. This will only raise ticket prices and discourage entrepreneurs from entering the market.
1960. John Stoner | May 12, 2008 at 5:33 pm
I disapprove of this ordinance.
1961. Derek Hanson | May 12, 2008 at 5:33 pm
This ordinance is completely without a basis in the realities of life for small venues and theaters. Please add my voice to the chorus of displeasure.
1962. Dave Budrys | May 12, 2008 at 5:33 pm
This ordinance would be a big mistake. Please vote no!
1963. Rich | May 12, 2008 at 5:33 pm
As a Chicago resident and regular concert attendee who tends to prefer the smaller venues, this is one of the most horribly overbroad laws I can imagine. I’ve never felt particularly threatened at any small but packed shows. Surely there must be a less invasive way to guarantee a minimal level of safety?
1964. Jason Meyers | May 12, 2008 at 5:34 pm
This ordanance will ruin shows. Definitely a nono.
1965. Aaron Pedersen | May 12, 2008 at 5:34 pm
Please do not pass this law. This is the last thing Chicago needs.
1966. kate tummelson | May 12, 2008 at 5:34 pm
Thank you for taking the initiative to make us all aware of this! Please add my name to the list. I strongly oppose this ordinace, and I urge our councilmen to prevent it from passing into law.
1967. sarah figliulo | May 12, 2008 at 5:34 pm
That would be tragic and useless.
1968. Stephen Gilboy | May 12, 2008 at 5:34 pm
Add me
1969. Mike Patton | May 12, 2008 at 5:34 pm
If they had passed this law decades ago then Chicago would have no culture to pride itself on.
1970. Ray | May 12, 2008 at 5:34 pm
Bad Idea.
1971. n. e. ross | May 12, 2008 at 5:34 pm
please ad my name to the list of people against this ordinance. i have confidence the people in power will get this right and let music and art flourish as it always has in this great city. n.e. ross
1972. Greg Guiliano | May 12, 2008 at 5:34 pm
I am someone who has fallen in love with Chicago because of the chances it gives to burgeoning artists, the kind of chance that is unique specifically to Chicago. If this bill is passed, it will destroy those aspects of Chicago nightlife and culture. Not only will artists/performers be out of places where they can share their art with others, but it will also put promoters in the position where they can only hire big name acts, which would cost more and make things harder on those who own venues. I can’t see how any benefit could outweigh all this. Do not let this bill be passed.
1973. Leif Moravy (Silver Wrapper) | May 12, 2008 at 5:35 pm
This is a shame.
The reason artists play music is because of “the music.”
The reason smaller venues/promoters promote smaller shows, is because of “the music.”
I love Chicago and everything about its “music scene.”
The ordinance is everything against “the music.”
Severely dissapointed in the City of Chicago,
Leif Moravy
Silver Wrapper
http://www.silverwrapper.com
1974. Mark Swindle | May 12, 2008 at 5:35 pm
As a former co-owner of Chicago’s The Quaker Goes Deaf, I am especially passionate not only about the music scene, but also about the clubs that make Chicago’s vibrant music scene possible. This proposed ordinance represents a mis-directed effort on the part of the City of Chicago, with a net effect of providing little to no value at an unacceptable cost. The notion of insuring everyone against everything is ridiculously flawed: if it were such that thousands of the city’s music lovers were perishing in fires, building collapses or stampedes, I could fathom a measure such as this designed for public safety. Yet even if this was the case, the imperative would be to pass a measure that would accomplish this WITHOUT prohibitive cost to promoters and venues. Step up and make your voice heard: if something like this passes into law the damage it would cause would be swift and virtually irreversible.
1975. david enright | May 12, 2008 at 5:35 pm
i am not only shocked that the ordinance exists, i am mortified that it was drawn up here in chicago. i moved to this city because of it’s vibrant and diverse music scene, please don’t force me or any of the other thousands of musicians/music fans in this city to move out of it.
1976. kel | May 12, 2008 at 5:35 pm
NO. NO.NO.NO.NO.NO.NO.NO.NO.NO.NO.NO.NO.NO.NO.NO.NO.NO.NO.NO.NO.NO.NO.NO.NO.NO.NO.NO.NO.NO.NO.NO.NO.NO.NO.NO.NO.NO.NO.NO.NO.NO.NO.NO.NO.NO.
1977. Michael Moran | May 12, 2008 at 5:36 pm
This ordinance will make no one safer. It will HURT the goal of safety by driving some events underground.
This ordinance hurts the city by wrecking cultural opportunties. That harm just drives music events to the suburbs, along with tax revenue.
This ordinance hurts the city and protects no one. It should be defeated.
1978. Ana Markovic | May 12, 2008 at 5:36 pm
Chicago is known for it’s music scene. .
Tons of great bands come out of this city, and to pass this ordinance would be a big slap in the face both to them and to aspiring musicians.
This ordinance will only help to prevent the success of many.
This thing has no point.
Please vote against this.
It cannot happen to my city.
We can’t let it.
1979. Catie | May 12, 2008 at 5:36 pm
As a resident of Chicago, I believe that this ordinance would only hinder the growth of everything that we have become. As an attendee of multiple concerts, most of which are held at smaller venues, I think that this would be a huge upset to the chicago, and surrounding suburbs way of life. Where are teens supposed to hang out? How are our local bands going to get any recognition? If we want to continue growing on a cultural level, we cant cut off music. Music is a way of life and this would be destroying the dreams that so many people have built. Chicago is a hot spot for concerts, especially at smaller venues, and businesses around these venues would be losing thousands of customers and dollars if these venues were disappearing. This ordinance is in no way good for the city of chicago or its cultural music scene.
1980. Gabriel | May 12, 2008 at 5:36 pm
This is a misguided and ill-considered ordinance. I will vote against any alderman who votes for it. Manny Flores, my vote helped elect you to begin with–now stand up and do the right thing.
1981. Jordan Schultz | May 12, 2008 at 5:36 pm
Vote “NO” for this ordinance! This is clearly another way for our local government to fleece the pockets of it’s working class musicians and promoters. Please don’t let this happen.
1982. bianca | May 12, 2008 at 5:36 pm
this is ridiculous!
i dont even LIVE in chicago, but i know for a fact that the metro is way to memorable to tear down.
SOMETHING MUST BE DONE!
1983. Jared | May 12, 2008 at 5:36 pm
One of Chicago’s greatest strengths is its music scene. If this goes away, not only will our city culture suffer, but young people will find worse ways to spend their time (vandalism, drugs, etc.), rather than something positive like listening to music.
1984. Liz | May 12, 2008 at 5:37 pm
Don’t rip away the core of Chicago!!!! You are disgracing the music legacy this beautiful city has left behind!!!!
1985. Katherine Maich | May 12, 2008 at 5:37 pm
Please don’t pass this ordinance; it will only diminish Chicago’s amazing music scene and all those who enjoy its uniqueness.
1986. David Baboorian | May 12, 2008 at 5:37 pm
I am against this ordinance.
1987. Lizzie Baki | May 12, 2008 at 5:37 pm
I don’t get why they would want to do this. Live music is what brings people to Chicago. I live in the suburbs and over the summer I’m in Chicago at the very least once a week seeing a show. If you want people to come to the wonderful city. Vote no!
1988. Dave Sutfin | May 12, 2008 at 5:37 pm
This proposed ordinance is ludicrous and will single-handedly destroy the indie music and theather scene that has thrived in Chicago for decades. It will eliminate not only music and culture but jobs as well as local venues will be forced to close.
PLEASE DON’T ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN!
Dave Sutfin
1989. Mark Swindle | May 12, 2008 at 5:37 pm
As a former co-owner of Chicago’s The Quaker Goes Deaf, I am especially passionate not only about the music scene, but also about the clubs that make Chicago’s vibrant music scene possible. This proposed ordinance represents a mis-directed effort on the part of the City of Chicago, with a net effect of providing little to no value at an unacceptable cost. The notion of insuring everyone against everything is ridiculously flawed: if it were such that thousands of the city’s music lovers were perishing in fires, building collpases or stampedes, I could fathom a measure such as this designed for public safety. Yet even if this was the case, the imperative would be to pass a measure that would accomplish this WITHOUT prohibitive cost to promoters and venues. Step up and make your voice heard: if something like this passes into law the damage it would cause would be swift and virtually irreversible.
1990. Ellen Stolar | May 12, 2008 at 5:38 pm
this is ridiculous. The city council should be ashamed of itself for prosopsing such proposterous legisilation.
1991. Eric Newman | May 12, 2008 at 5:38 pm
Chicago’s vibrant independent music, theater and art scene is what makes this city great. This ordinance seems to be designed to make sure that scene is severely impacted or eliminated. It really doesn’t make any sense. I would be embarrassed if this passes.
1992. becky | May 12, 2008 at 5:38 pm
this city would be nothing without its diverse music/arts scene. its why i came here, and why others continue coming here. why on earth would anyone want to destroy something so important and positive to chicagos youth and culture? i only wish those responsible for these ludicrous ideas could see they are causing more harm than good.
1993. Aleah Markovic | May 12, 2008 at 5:38 pm
This is useless.
By passing this ordinance, you are enabling people to spend their time on other things, such as gangs, drugs, and such.
Chicago lives off of music.
Who are any of you to take away what we love so much?
1994. Steve Stone | May 12, 2008 at 5:39 pm
As a musician of 11 years, it hurts me to see this happen. I really wish they were also giving a reason as to why they are doing this… Did something happen?? Anyways, if this gets passed, this will hurt many musicians that are trying to be heard. No one will book bands for smaller venues anymore (which is, by-the-way, where all bands start out). Obviously they don’t care… Hmm, I guess people like killing off cultural diversity. Look Out! Here come the age of mindless robots!!
1995. Elizabeth | May 12, 2008 at 5:39 pm
I don’t live anywhere near the city of Chicago nor have I ever been.
BUT, I see so many great bands come from there.
With this law it would stop the development of the music scene.
I love Chicago and do not want this law passed.
1996. Gloria Iseli | May 12, 2008 at 5:39 pm
I depend on the jobs that mid-size to smaller store front theatres provide.
1997. Robert Dumas | May 12, 2008 at 5:39 pm
50th Ward, checking in. I absolutely do not support such draconian measures which would have a dramatic negative impact upon the city’s music and culture.
1998. Emilio Delgado | May 12, 2008 at 5:39 pm
this is digusting.
1999. Christina | May 12, 2008 at 5:40 pm
This is absolutely ridiculous.
Chicago would not be the same without their music scene.
This definately cannot be voted for.
2000. Jose Bono | May 12, 2008 at 5:40 pm
Please do not cut the creative nature of music. Music is a universal expression. If you pass this law it will affect 1000′s of individuals. In fact, it is an infrigment on our constitutional rights. So many have been taken away, now music is the next victum to fall to the ax of totalitarism.
2001. Jessica | May 12, 2008 at 5:40 pm
NO NO NO VOTE NO!
2002. Ryan Wolff | May 12, 2008 at 5:41 pm
Please take another look at this ordinance. Chicago’s thriving music scene is a big part of the culture and what makes this city so great. If this ordinance is passed it could do some serious damage. There’s a way to do this that will be beneficial to everybody. Talk to the musicians and the venues first before you rush into something that could hurt a lot of people.
2003. Tony Engel - Veilside | May 12, 2008 at 5:41 pm
This is without question the worst thing that can happen to the Chicago local music scene. I can understand the want for safety, but those laws ALREADY EXIST! Just enforce what is already on the books, and don’t hurt entrepenuers from putting together local concerts by requiring them to pay some additional tax and fees. This is nothing more than government excess, and it’s stupid. Please reconsider this ordinance, and for the sake of the Chicago music scene, vote it DOWN!
2004. Ashley Cosich | May 12, 2008 at 5:41 pm
definitely add me to this list
2005. Jeff | May 12, 2008 at 5:42 pm
Just say No
2006. Joe Ventress | May 12, 2008 at 5:42 pm
don’t pass this silly ordinance. things are good as they are.
2007. Nick | May 12, 2008 at 5:42 pm
I’ve been in bands before and now book shows. An ordinance such as this is clear discrimination, and any attempt to flush the indie arts scene in Chicago should not go unchallenged.
2008. John Harris-Behling | May 12, 2008 at 5:43 pm
Chicago has a live music and theater scene that is unique in its support of a wide range of local performers. The “Event Promoters” ordinance will certainly hinder local music and theater by making event production too expensive for many independent artists. We have more than enough mass produced corporate music and drama in this county. Protect vital local expression and stop this stupid ordinance.
2009. Matt | May 12, 2008 at 5:43 pm
Enforce the laws already in place. This ordinance is an ineffective solution to the problem, and causes undue harm to the legitimate promoters and the venues who rely upon them to bring first-class entertainment to Chicago.
The public comment period was too brief and gives the impression that the City was trying to sneak one past the public – not a way to get re-elected, alderpeople…
2010. danny powell | May 12, 2008 at 5:43 pm
what a bunch of bullshit. sounds like nazism.
2011. Mr. Smith | May 12, 2008 at 5:44 pm
We’ve been interviewing some local alderman whose wards cover lots of Chicago’s clubs. You can see their interviews here:
http://www.timeout.com/chicago/blog/out-and-about/
2012. Andrew Witt | May 12, 2008 at 5:44 pm
I oppose the Promoter’s Ordinance.
2013. Lucy C. | May 12, 2008 at 5:44 pm
I strongly disagree with this ordinance and find it ridiculous.
2014. Sharyl Holtzman | May 12, 2008 at 5:45 pm
I am outraged. At first I was speechless when I saw the first email come through, I thought surely it must be some kind of hoax. I cannot for the life of me understand WHAT possess ANYONE to think this is a good idea, some kind of ‘solution’. Talk about punishing the wrong people? I have now lived in LA for 3 years; leaving Chicago was a tough one – the heart, the richness and diversity of the music and culture, the tight-knit community. I look at my MySpace page and it is filled with the charitable concerts and music events I produced for 15 years, the last seven as an independent promoter. I have worked with the Metro for years, and on other occasions, The Hideout, Schubas and many more. We have raised money, awareness, friends and other intangibles you cannot put a price on. We created history, memories, magic. These events have captured the heart and soul of Chicago and what it represents – this ordinance would destroy it completely. My entire body of work would NOT exist if an ordinance like this was in place.I cannot for the life of me imagine that to be.
On a personal, social level, these venues and the music I discovered, listened to – because these owners were passionate about what they do and invested in the community – I can’t even wrap my head around the possibility that this would no longer exist.
STOP THE MADNESS.
Sharyl Holtzman
2015. Chris | May 12, 2008 at 5:45 pm
Don’t stop at just the smaller venues and promotors. While you are at it let’s get rid of sidewalks, tree lined parkways and green space in neighborhoods. Why do we need those? Oh yeah and forget about fixing roofs on schools, their not needed. How’s a little water going to hurt studies? And restaurants and bars. Who needs them? We have soup kitchens that once the lifeblood of the city is sucked dry we call all eat at together. Well except the alderman because they’ll still get raises on our backs.
P.S. Don’t forget to figure out how to block out the sun and charge for that. Oh crap now you’ll probably charge anyone that installs solar power in Chicago a tax since they are a promoter of solar power and you won’t be getting tax revenue on the power they create and don’t use from Comed.
2016. Ryan Goldman | May 12, 2008 at 5:45 pm
Independent promoters are the heart of Chicago’s live music scene. Live music is the heart of Chicago’s arts and culture. Please allow for diversity and fluency in booking and promoting live music in my city!
2017. Kellee Warren | May 12, 2008 at 5:45 pm
As a vocalist living in chicago, over the past 15 years I have seen the gradual degradation of the arts in this city. It’s time for fine and performing artists to stand up for their rights. Artist’s bring pleasure, texture and beauty to this city. We take work that pays very little so that we can give of ourselves. Please do not support this ordinance that will take more money out of our already “light” pockets.
2018. Michael Eisenberg | May 12, 2008 at 5:45 pm
I’m speechless!!! This ordinance MUST NOT PASS!!!!
2019. Julie Kurzawski | May 12, 2008 at 5:46 pm
OMG! WHY WHY WHY would they even want to do this. I love music WAY WAY WAY WAY too much. I would be heartbroken if this goes into effect. We music lovers can’t let this happen!
2020. Amanda | May 12, 2008 at 5:46 pm
No.Just no.
2021. Tim Carlile | May 12, 2008 at 5:46 pm
To those from the city who may read this,
Please do not pass any ordinance that would prevent the creative people from this great city from being able to create their art.
Our diverse music, theatre, and artistic scene is one of the things that brings so many people to our city, and brings many of us together.
Fight for the arts! Fight for our voice!
2022. Virginia Erdie | May 12, 2008 at 5:46 pm
No more small venues means no more creativity and gatherings of creative people and no more culture…I would not visit anymore.
2023. Andrew | May 12, 2008 at 5:46 pm
This is maybe the worst, and most anti-cultural, idea I have ever heard.
2024. Brandy Goodrick | May 12, 2008 at 5:46 pm
Illinois used to be a great state to live in and work. It’s all starting to go down hill. You do this and you will will only promote illegal activity. This is wrong in my opinion unethical. With the economy the way it stands how could you even think this was a anything close to a good idea?
2025. Carl Hess | May 12, 2008 at 5:46 pm
As described today in the Chicagoist, all that this ordinance will do is punish already upstanding local venues. It is unnecessary, over the top, and a threat to the smaller institutions that make this city unique.
http://chicagoist.com/2008/05/12/youre_gonna_nee.php
2026. Matt | May 12, 2008 at 5:46 pm
Complete nonsense, keep Chicago’s local scene alive!
2027. Madeleine | May 12, 2008 at 5:47 pm
This is a blatant attack on the independent scene which defines Chicago’s sub-culture. An attempt to rid the city of a specific kind of culture in exchange for the culture that is dictated by corporately sponsored events and the Daley family’s “contributions”.
In recent years Chicago has made a valiant effort to define itself as a major cultural hub outside of the boundaries defined by NYC and LA, and in my opinion at least, has gained a great momentum towards a truly unique atmosphere in which the arts and music have flourished.
This attack WILL hurt this city’s localized economy since the many artists, musicians and performers who call Chicago their home, will find themselves without a means to accommodate the law. In the end, people like myself, who are participants in many independent events on both the planning side and attending side, will inevitably leave to find a place where they can pursue these interests without impediment.
If the city government believes that people will simply “get over it” – they’re wrong. I know too many people who’s lives depend on these activities to participate in communities and networking activities which would not otherwise be available in instances of the ones that will supplant them.
I am outraged by the city’s complete lack of foresight and consideration for its residents – the very same residents that have made this city great.
2028. Jessica Wolfinger | May 12, 2008 at 5:47 pm
This is outrageous! One of the reasons Chicago is such a great city is because of it’s musical diversity, and personally, I LIVE for seeing live bands at the small venues in and around the Chicago area. This ordinance will do nothing but hurt the city and it’s culture.
2029. Chris Novoa | May 12, 2008 at 5:47 pm
45th ward resident does not support this. Contacting Phil Levar directly.
2030. Matt | May 12, 2008 at 5:47 pm
Complete nonsense, keep Chicago’s local scene alive!
2031. Nora Williams | May 12, 2008 at 5:48 pm
As an active classical performer and promoter of chamber music concerts, primarily in the Fine Arts Building, this ordinance must be stopped. The independent, creative, and varied artistic life of Chicago must be allowed to grow and be nourished without this heavy-handed ordinance.
2032. Tiffany | May 12, 2008 at 5:48 pm
passing this ordinance is ludicrous. Passing this ordinance is like telling everyone else in the world that Chicago doesn’t appreciate or support local/independant artists, which contradicts everything i’ve come to know and love about this city. please don’t do this, for the sake of artists everywhere, the blow of this will be incomprehensible to a countless number of chicagians, including me.
2033. Hilary Marsh | May 12, 2008 at 5:48 pm
I really enjoy the small, independent shows that Chicago offers, and I would be absolutely horrified if this ordinance passes, since it will wipe out so many of them.
2034. Eleftheria Bougas | May 12, 2008 at 5:48 pm
They are going to destroy the music scene here! I practically lived at the metro last summer for all the shows. Local bands will suffer too. Chicago has one of the best local scenes. This must be stopped.
2035. Eric | May 12, 2008 at 5:48 pm
This is a horrible idea. Please vote no.
2036. Arlo Leach | May 12, 2008 at 5:48 pm
I organized a benefit concert recently that raised a lot of money for a charitable cause, made everyone in the audience happy, and left me feeling proud and fulfilled. It sounds like I couldn’t have done it under this ordinance. Please add my name to the list of dissenters!
2037. Scott F | May 12, 2008 at 5:49 pm
The only reason I moved to Chicago was it’s music scene. Can’t say this ordinance would create a situation where people would want to settle in Chicago. Also less music venues means less people going out, which means less restaurants and bars surviving and the city receiving less of our disposable income.
2038. Spike McGuire | May 12, 2008 at 5:49 pm
Chicago is to artistically rich for this to even be considered. In fact, there is no town where this should be considered.
2039. Samantha J Ladd | May 12, 2008 at 5:49 pm
As a worker of the music industry I must say this ordinance is completely unfair to the music scene of Chicago. Chicago has one of the most culturally diverse music scenes in the nation and if this ordinance is passed it will so greatly affect that industry that Chicago could very well loose every bit of that culture. I hope for the sake of not only the industry in city but for the city itself that the council reconsiders this ordinance and finds away to make everyone happy.
2040. Andrew Levin | May 12, 2008 at 5:49 pm
Cultural expression is one of the most vital components of a viable community. We, here in Chicago, are lucky to count ourselves as members of not only a viable community, but one that is both healthy and growing. The stifling of cultural expression will weaken our community, and in turn, ourselves. This proposed ordinance would result in such a stifling of cultural expression, whether intended or not. Think about it. It is in everyone’s interest to support and maintain a vibrant Chicago-based culture.
2041. James Ehrhardt | May 12, 2008 at 5:49 pm
As someone involved who is studied in theatre, you would be destroying a valuable part of the economy by doing this, and forcing newcomers to cough up the cash in order to afford themselves any chance at showcasing new work which might eventually prove itself in a larger venue. This ordinance should never have been drafted.
2042. Justin | May 12, 2008 at 5:50 pm
Who can stand by and just let this happen?! I know I can’t…..and I won’t! It’s hard enough to make sure that musicians like my friends and I get the attention and focus we’ve been pouring our hearts into for years! This is like erasing everything we’ve done to get where we are! STOP IT!!!!!!!!
2043. Dom | May 12, 2008 at 5:50 pm
This city’s administration already taxes us far beyond an acceptable degree, further stuffing the already fat pockets of corrupt aldermen, land developers, construction companies, and big corporations in for the kill. Bringing in record profits, the Daley machine has nonetheless done such a poor job managing it’s money and affairs that it has to come up with yet another pathetic way to nickel and dime its less-than-wealthy citizens. The promoter’s ordinance not only puts the squeeze on a modest industry, but also threatens to undermine the vitality and health of this city’s creative population. The promoter’s ordinance represents the height of machine politics treachery.
2044. Eric Rampson | May 12, 2008 at 5:50 pm
Please put my name on the list of artists and art-lovers who want to see this ordinance defeated.
2045. Scott Anderson | May 12, 2008 at 5:50 pm
One thing that sets Chicago apart from other cities is its ability to attract interesting and entertaining cultural events to its venues on a regular basis. With this new ordinance, I fear that all concert-goers and theatre-watchers will be extremely limited in where they are allowed to support the arts, and performers will be forced to go elsewhere. Please do not take away the cultural allure of Chicago.
2046. Niki Conrad | May 12, 2008 at 5:50 pm
For a city that prides itself on being on the international scale (so much so that it is campaigning to bring the Olympics here), it certainly is doing a fantastic job of squelching that image right quick.
This is a creative city, this is a vibrant city, this is a city of music, of dancing, of theatre, of art.
Don’t take that away with red tape; it’s not so flattering.
PS: Under these guidelines, there’s no way I could have sung with the bands that I have sung with, nor could I, according to the fine print, have planned my 30th birthday extravaganza. & boy, would that have been a shame.
2047. Samantha | May 12, 2008 at 5:50 pm
This is insane.
I live in Chicago and love it.
This music is part of blood.
It runs through my veins.
It is ridiculous to take it away.
So don’t.
2048. Chandra Lohnes | May 12, 2008 at 5:50 pm
As a resident of Chicago and an avid lover of the city’s music scene, I would ask that this ordinance not be passed. As it reads it puts undo pressure on the smaller venues. It is in these smaller venues that music thrives. One of the main reasons I moved to this city from Los Angeles was because of the small/underground music scene. Corporate music sucks – it is in the small venue that the soul of interesting, different, and dynamic music flourishes. Please don’t destroy one of the things that makes Chicago such a wonderful vibrant city.
Thank you, Chandra
2049. R McGuire | May 12, 2008 at 5:50 pm
This ordinance will not only diminish the value of Chicago for current residents but will severely reduce interests to tourists. This city will lose hundreds of millions in revenue and begin losing residents. My belief is that it’s the culture that makes a city truly unique and this ordinance will take away some of the most unique culture the city of Chicago has! NO on this ordinance!
2050. Adam | May 12, 2008 at 5:50 pm
Foie Gras, no smoking in bars, now this. Where will Big Brother stop? The funny thing is, this ordinance, just like the others, will just drive more revenue underground and to the suburbs. Keep at it, City Council, you’ll have another Detroit on your hands before you know it.
2051. Lindsey | May 12, 2008 at 5:51 pm
This sounds awful. There is no reason this law should pass.
2052. Vicki | May 12, 2008 at 5:51 pm
This is ridiculous and they need to be stopped!
2053. Lorene Moore | May 12, 2008 at 5:51 pm
People visit and live in this city because of all the variety it has to offer. If you pass this ordinance you’re basically telling all the artists who support this city that you dont’ care about or need them. That would be a huge mistake. I know money is important but if this ordinance passes then it’s the city of Chicago that will be short changed.
2054. Carlos Cruz | May 12, 2008 at 5:51 pm
why is “the city” trying to keep chicago from being a unique city with a personality of its own–which is what a music scene helps provide for in a city?
are chicago public libraries going to be holding book burnings?
are we going to keep wrigleyville the most important part of this city and and continue to dismiss the ballplayers of cellular field?
will this city continue to “dump” on everything south of university village all the way to the neighborhood of South Chicago?
are certain pet projects going to take precedence over landmark buildings and neighborhoods with great culture and personalities, etc.?
this city is slowly driving out whatever personality and character it has left and is leaving a upc code on everything that’s new and implemented!
everything seems to be so backward in this town and does not really consider the people. i won’t fall for the “best interests of this city” bologna.
i’ve been an active part of the music scene since my childhood and i hope there to still be one for my son, who is also active in this scene.
i love chicago, i really do…born and bred….but if “the city” keeps making it hard to live here, i will find a new city to ive in.
is that what “the city” wants?? drive out the people who really make up the face of chicago and move in those with wallets?
sad…
2055. Mary Elizabeth Vance | May 12, 2008 at 5:51 pm
I love Chicago and the Chicago music scene and I for one refuse to allow its progress to end. This legislation would mean denying rights to “event promoters” who may not have as many seats as a large venue, but have just as many devotees. Push creativity in Chicago, don’t put it in a box.
2056. Hang Ruan | May 12, 2008 at 5:51 pm
This ordinance has nothing to do with promoting and advancing music, and everything to do with circumscribing the avenues of profit within the control and access of corporate conglomerates.
As a life-long Chicagoan and long-time patron of such innovative and refreshing music venues as the Metro and the Empty Bottle, I strongly oppose to the promoter ordinance.
2057. David Nagdeman | May 12, 2008 at 5:51 pm
If anyone actually believes that the Chicago police don’t already have the authority necessary to shut down a really and truly dangerous venue, they probably shouldn’t be trusted with our votes or our money.
2058. Dawn Greenberg | May 12, 2008 at 5:52 pm
Worst idea ever.
2059. Mychelle Peterson | May 12, 2008 at 5:52 pm
Save one of the best things about this city!
2060. BrendonMasters | May 12, 2008 at 5:52 pm
whatthefuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
im from florida, but I can still recognize the importance in preserving a local scene
if the law is passed, what stops other states from doing similar things?
2061. Brian Kelly | May 12, 2008 at 5:52 pm
As a working Chicago musician this ordinance literally threatens my existence. If passed my band will have no choice but to uproot, leaving behind friends and contacts made over many good years here and we are not alone. The exodus that this will ensure will gut this city of its scene. The third largest city in the nation currently boasts the third largest (and diverse) music industry. If this antagonistic ordinance passes it will diminish to nothing and you can watch all of the young and talented urban professionals, who thrive on clubs and nightlife culture, to leave with us… to somewhere more fun.
2062. Ryan | May 12, 2008 at 5:52 pm
What a waste of legislation… not that our fine city’s council hasn’t been involved with stupidity before (read: fois law).
2063. Jess Williams | May 12, 2008 at 5:53 pm
To Whom it May Concern:
I was raised to appreciate the arts. For as long as I can remember, my mother has encouraged and gone to great lengths to ensure her children developed this appreciation. We took many trips to Chicago to see musicals, ballets, operas, and enjoy all of the other offerings of the city. I am an adult now, and have such a huge appreciation for the arts, but in particular I love music. I frequently travel to Chicago from out of state to see shows. I have many friends that are part of the music scene in Chicago either as musicians, fans, or employed in the industry in some way. When I am in Chicago it is almost exclusively to attend shows at the smaller venues. In fact, I prefer the smaller venues and feel they are far safer than some of the bigger ones. I am not familiar with the “bad actors” that are causing problems. I do know that I have never, ever while in Chicago at any number of the venues I have attended, witnessed dangerous behavior or overcrowding. Almost all of the people that I know that are part of the Chicago music industry go to great efforts and invest endless amounts of time creating interest in music through communicating with people. This should not be complicated with an ordinance that will make it difficult for them to generate interest in what I feel is one of the best things about Chicago. While I am sure some of these problems exist, as with any large city, I feel that the ordinance will greatly hinder the Freedom of Expression (First Amendment) allowed in the Constitution of the United States. The expression of artists, including the use of symbolism, is protected under the First Amendment. While the ordinance may not be aimed at restricting these rights, that is inevitably what will happen. Please consider these things when making a decision that will affect far more people than you may think. Don’t take away one of the greatest joys in my life. Thank you.
2064. jason jackowiak | May 12, 2008 at 5:54 pm
Contacting my alderman immediately.
2065. Dave | May 12, 2008 at 5:54 pm
Keep things as they are
2066. Keith Portman | May 12, 2008 at 5:54 pm
Part of the reason I moved to Chicago was for the music scene. In fact, it’s the main reason I did so. Small venues, like Martyrs, are where I go on a weekly basis. And I go out for one reason: for live music.
Chicago is a music capital, in my opinion. The passing of this ordinance would threaten the music scene culturally, but most importantly economically. It would also put amazing venues out of business.
We need MORE LIVE MUSIC in Chicago. Please don’t take any away!
I’m a strong opponent of this ordinance. I highly recommend against it, and I believe anyone reading this thread should do the same.
KEEP THE MUSIC ALIVE!
2067. Mike Arreaga | May 12, 2008 at 5:54 pm
Add me to the petition!
If it starts with Chicago, who knows where it could go next.
2068. Derek Barthel | May 12, 2008 at 5:54 pm
If this ordinance passes it will ultimately take away a huge part of the beauty of living in Chicago. This is against everything the art/music scenes of Chicago- and cities across the nation- represent.
2069. Matt Larsen | May 12, 2008 at 5:54 pm
No thanks. Sounds like big brother once again stepping in where he is not needed.
2070. Gail | May 12, 2008 at 5:55 pm
This absolutely sucks! The Metro is one of my favorite places! I am there all the damn time. Things have been fine all this time and then somone just has to throw a wrench in!
2071. Gavin | May 12, 2008 at 5:55 pm
Chicago’s economic health is in part due to interesting artists, promoters, and consumers that create a vibrant cultural landscape. This cultural scene is great largely because it has a lot of independent venues and promoters. While I think people should have liability insurance and that cultural venues should be safe and regulated, the City Council should think about the long term effect of heavy handed ordinances. Laws that discourage small independent venues will over time make Chicago’s cultural scene tend toward larger corporate productions, which tend to be national productions that are not unique to Chicago. This would make Chicago’s cultural landscape less unique, less vibrant and would make the city less attractive to artists and consumers. This would eventually be lost revenue and damage to the creative community in the city.
2072. Michael J McGovern | May 12, 2008 at 5:55 pm
Since my teen years, I’ve been involving myself in Chicago’s art and music community. I’ve been exposed to indescribable beauty in the form of live music and visual and performing arts that has irreversibly altered the course of my life, and for the better. It is largely, perhaps entirely due to the fact that Chicago has always been so welcoming and supportive of the arts that I and countless thousands have had the chance to experience the arts in the way we have.
This ordinance will severely limit the abilities of artists and the opportunities for their appreciators. I implore you not to put well-meaning artists, concert-goers, promoters, venues, and countless other purveyors and appreciators of art in a position to lose their livlihoods and hobbies for good.
We mean only the best for Chicago, and Chicago is better for having us around.
2073. Debbi Salisbury | May 12, 2008 at 5:55 pm
They have got to be kidding! I realize that they think this would be a great way to make money fast, but they would really be shooting themselves in the foot.
Many of us come to Chicago again and again to see all forms of entertainment and may not afford the big tickets, but from week to week come into the city and spend money on smaller shows, food, drinks, gas and other shopping items while we are in town. And even for those of us who can afford the big ticket, many of us know that you can find some of the best theatre and music in the little places anyway and rarely buy a ticket to the high price shows.
This would mean we’d be spending all that money only in the suburbs because the key thing to draw us into the city at all is an event such as entertainment.
Chicago, you better think twice before you blow a big source of your income.
2074. Zackery Belanger | May 12, 2008 at 5:55 pm
The more limitations on expression, the more mundane everything will be. Chicago is better than that; always has been, and I hope it always will. This is antithesis to innovation. Don’t let it happen.
2075. Brian Hakala | May 12, 2008 at 5:56 pm
This is ridiculous. I’ve experienced better and more organized security at smaller venues (Schuba’s, Metro, the Vic, etc.) than some of the larger venues with ‘permanent seating’.
2076. Jerry Fitzpatrick | May 12, 2008 at 5:56 pm
It is already hard enough with the economy as it is to vie for shrinking entertaiment dollars. If this ordinance is passed how long before other towns and municipalities try to adopt it? I vote NO!
2077. Vincent Policelli | May 12, 2008 at 5:56 pm
I do not support this ordinance. As a resident of the 45th Ward, I would have to seriously reconsider my support of its Alderman if this ordinance gets passed.
2078. Nancy | May 12, 2008 at 5:56 pm
As a very part-time musician and very full-time consumer of music in Chicago, I cannot imagine how this ordinance could serve the city or its art! Creating licensing bureaucracy will stifle the extraordinary creative breath that it is Chicago’s priviledge to have nurtured — sometimes against great odds — over decades. In many ways, the artistic life of a community is both its most vital and its most fragile commodity, without which humane participation in social life can’t survive. In these times, the threats to creative expression are very often put forward under the guise of “protecting” and “insuring the public good,” but this makes them no less pernicious.
I urge you to reconsider this ill-advised plan and to re-commit yourself instead to the REAL work of protecting and facilitating culture in Chicago, working for arts funding, accessibility, and diversity.
2079. Timothy Howe | May 12, 2008 at 5:56 pm
Consider it signed. This is an outrage!
2080. Nancy Babendir | May 12, 2008 at 5:56 pm
Please add my name to the petition. This ordinance is ridiculous!
2081. Phil Nuccio | May 12, 2008 at 5:56 pm
If you do this, you welcome our city to shrink to the size of Rockford in the next 100 years. Thanks for the corruption dems. Maybe if you didnt have to pay for the roads to be fixed by 1/2 working workers, maybe, just maybe this city and state could afford better schools, teachers, city and state projects, etc. also if you didn’t have to pay the “ghosts” on ALL your payrolls, we wouldn’t have to suffer this indignity as well.
2082. steven beck | May 12, 2008 at 5:56 pm
this is bull crap! they shouldn’t be able to take away the very foundation of chicago, its creativaty! Chicago’s culture is full of music and many people go there to become famous and by taking away small promoters and venues Chicago will become just another place. I personally don’t want to live to see that happen.
2083. Lisa | May 12, 2008 at 5:56 pm
I was outraged when I learned that this was all a possible reality. I started going to shows when I was 15 and now I’m 22 years old and feel that being around the richness of the chicago music scene has developed the person I am today. When tourists come to Chicago they expect to be surrounded by the choice in local entertainment. Chicago is well known for one of the best local scenes around. Being surrounded by venues such as beat kitchen, shubas and the metro as well as many others has definitely improved my opinion of the city as this powerhouse just footsteps or el rides away. I have memories that are so meaningful due to those venues that most people won’t get the chance if this ordinance takes place. I believe this ordinance would only have a NEGATIVE effect on Chicago. When I go to a venue on any given night there is a show, the streets are packed with sometimes over a 1000 individuals who just want to feel connected to their city and the music they are in love with. Why take that feeling away?
Please dont pass this ordinance, it would greatly be a frown upon the city itself.
2084. mike moster | May 12, 2008 at 5:57 pm
i am scheduled to move back to chicago in 6 months. family, friends and culture are the cornerstones of chicago for me. i will not move back if this passes. i am college educated, have a solid, steady income in finance, i vote and am a great promoter of the city of chicago…….but whatever mayor daley says, goes. GO CHICAGO CORRUPTORS!
mike moster
2085. Scott Downing | May 12, 2008 at 5:57 pm
Small clubs like the Metro and the Empty Bottle are the backbone of the Chicago music scene. These venues have given the city an international reputation as a town that respects musicians and understands good music. Pleas ehelp maintain the integrity of city’s music scene.
2086. Steven Downs | May 12, 2008 at 5:57 pm
It’s completely unbelievable to me that this is happening. Doesn’t the city realize they’ll be killing the music/art/city culture with this? Metro…Schuba’s…The Riv…The Vic…all of these venues will be affected. LEGITIMATE venues. Please DO NOT pass this ordinance!!!! If it passes, the city’s music – and culture – will suffer immensely.
2087. Alan Geierman | May 12, 2008 at 5:57 pm
Am I missing something here? This law is basically saying bar owners and other venue management must be insured up to $300 K per person injured, and that they pay $500 every two years to have these events, whether daily or annually. It’s not as though we as homeowners or drivers had complained, when those laws were made, we wouldn’t need homeowners or car insurance .
I see nothing that effects small performers, and small club owners should be able to afford the $500 every two years, especially if they have music often as Buddy Guy’s or Shuba’s do. the insurance may be expensive, but as patrons, we should be grateful. We should get something to assure us our $5.00 per drink is not all going to the greedy bar owner, the insurance company gets some, and the greedy City needs it’s share, too.
As a performer, I so not see how it effects the acts themselves;Section 4-157-020 part B number three specifically excludes the performers from owning the license or being subject to the licensing act itself. I have to add, they wouldn’t be able to pay it, because the bar owners don’t pay enough to performers, as a rule.
Finally, this whole thing was brought on by greedy club owners that dodged their responsibilty of protecting their clientele, and being underinsured. and not providing adequate safety measure for the people that paid to be there. Can you spell E2?
Granted the verbage is archiac legalese, and lawyers wrote this with confusing the layman intentionally, but they ALWAYS do that…it comes with the job, it’s part of the bar exam.
I doubt if anything will come of this, except an increase in the price of a drink….as if the bar owner needed an excuse to raise prices!
2088. David Mo | May 12, 2008 at 5:58 pm
Yeah, but think of all the great music and theatre that will be moving out to us in the ‘burbs!!! We won’t have to go into the city for anything any more. We’ll avoid all the traffic, too.
2089. Bryan Wendorf | May 12, 2008 at 5:58 pm
I came to Chicago 25 years ago because of the music, theater and cultural offerings this city offered. If this ordinance were to pass I would seriously consider moving to a city where the arts are appreciated.
2090. Melissa Finlayson | May 12, 2008 at 5:58 pm
Unbelievable!!! The culture is what makes Chicago the city we love, and where we want to live. What would sweet home Chicago be without the music……
I can’t even believe something like this would ever be an issue. The small venues is where it starts, what gives us the flavor, the creativity, what makes Chicago such a wonderful place to live, and visit. Who doesn’t think of music when you talk about Chicago. Taking this away is beyond heartbreaking. A shame for the city, and a shame for all of the people who spend their hard earned dollar enjoying a night out on the town!
2091. Laura P. Flores | May 12, 2008 at 5:58 pm
We must keep the Arts alive in Chicago without any barriers in the way of expressing ourselves. This ordinance is of no benefit to anyone.
2092. John L | May 12, 2008 at 5:58 pm
I can’t believe a city thats known for its tremendous music scene is willing to lose it for a few extra dollars. Of all the things to do to make money for the city, this is worst idea I’ve ever heard.
2093. Nathan Ronchetti | May 12, 2008 at 5:58 pm
Ticketmaster fees and gas prices are things I can deal with when going to a show. I can bypass those fees by purchasing my tickets at the box office and carpooling or taking public transportation. But I never thought I’d have to worry about a lack of shows meant to protect me as a consumer. We are not this ignorant. Do not let the few spoil what many do because of the love of music. Chicago might be known as the second city for many things, but I’m hoping and praying it does not become the first to make this kind of mistake.
2094. Bryan Tholl | May 12, 2008 at 5:58 pm
A complete waste of time. Yet another right slowly being taken away from the “Americans”.
2095. Scott Venvertloh | May 12, 2008 at 5:58 pm
I oppose this ordinance.
2096. Debra Pekin | May 12, 2008 at 5:59 pm
City Council – please stop and consider the financial impact of this kind of poorly thought out and overly-reactive ordinance. How many safe, enjoyable creative locations for developing artisans in Chicago will lose business or even close because you didn’t take the time to prepare a sensible and enforceable ordinance? It’s not like this kind of thing can become a profit center – it’s going to cost more to run enforcement of an ordinance like this than you’ll take in from your fees. In the mean time – how much of Chicago’s reputation as a tourist destination for great music and theater will die because of your shortsightedness. How much will that cost all of the businesses in Chicago? People are still laughing at the whole fois gras faux pas – but people won’t laugh at this, they will just go to Evanston or Oak Park to spend their entertainment dollars. Enforce safety laws in place, but don’t make the mistake of thinking that you have a clue about how to meaningfully regulate an industry you obviously have not spent nearly enough time learning about. Go talk to the League of Chicago Theatres. Go talk to the city of New York – learn – consult – ask – design – develop – then you can start to work on an ordinance.
2097. Lindsey Percak | May 12, 2008 at 5:59 pm
This is absurd. I live out in northwest Indiana and one of the main reasons I even go to Chicago is for the music scene, like many other people from my area. If the city passes this ordinance, the music scene is dead. We gotta keep Chicago’s local scene alive!!!
2098. Pete G | May 12, 2008 at 5:59 pm
Stop the promoter’s ordinance.
2099. Rea Peck | May 12, 2008 at 5:59 pm
Even if I’m not from Chicago, I refuse to let this happen. So many of my favorite bands came from Chicago and were reconized in those places. And I can only imagine how it will impact newer bands.
2100. Angie | May 12, 2008 at 5:59 pm
Why stop artists from creating and doing what they love and stop Chicago from enjoying these things?
2101. David Mo | May 12, 2008 at 6:00 pm
Yeah, but think of all the great music and theatre that will be moving out to us in the ‘burbs!!! We won’t have to go into the city for anything any more. We’ll avoid all the traffic, too. Let ‘em do it. Suckahs!
2102. Trevor Walsh | May 12, 2008 at 6:00 pm
…and here i thought we were starting to turn a corner with more independent venues opening or re-opening, like Reggie’s and the Bottom Lounge. i see live music of some sort nearly every week in this city, and it is almost never in a large venue.
it is this abundance and variety that is one of the prime reasons i never want to leave this city – i truly hope that the City Council recognizes this ordinance for the unnecessary and overly paranoid piece of garbage it is.
why does any part of the world need more red tape, anyway?
2103. Syrrys | May 12, 2008 at 6:00 pm
I can see the logic behind the goals of this legislation, but Why of why rush it? It would seem to me that rushing out flawed rules that fail to solve the problem will cost more time effort and expense to fix than just waiting and doing it right the first time.
Vote No.
Please.
2104. luis flores | May 12, 2008 at 6:00 pm
the imposition of this law will create a void in the space filled by up and coming artists in the city. it will, without a doubt, stifle the creativity expressed in the independant shows and events. the passing of this proposition into law will repress the flow of creativity beyond the city limits into the far suburbs. these types of shows not only generate profits for those exhibiting thier talents upon a stage, but may also drown out the potential revenue collected by neighboorhood businesses in the vicinity of the events. in that case, being a person with the interests of enjoying a good show and seeing new talent perform, i am also a business man. and with those two sides of myself i cannot voice for the support of this ordinance. it would be ridiculous for any other business person within the area of shows/events to even give the thought of this consideration.
2105. Ramona Gupta | May 12, 2008 at 6:00 pm
How can the City Council even consider such an obviously harmful policy? It doesn’t make any sense to go after independent promoters and artists and small venues; they make Chicago the vibrant and exciting city it is. I urge you to VOTE NO on the promoter’s ordinance!
2106. Debra | May 12, 2008 at 6:02 pm
Chicago is a city famous for the growth and development of experimental theatre and music – for finding the next hot talent. Steppenwolf Theatre started in a church basement with seating in folding chairs, for crying out loud!! Putting small venues out of business isn’t going to increase revenue or tourism – and you can’t collect these outrageous additional fees from places you close down,either. And small places of business don’t have the staff to even try to figure out how to comply with all the stuff you inserted in here. Small theatres work with volunteer or minimally salaried personnel – they often don’t have fixed seating so they can rearrange the stage configuration to accommodate different theatrical styles or design concepts. This is placing a huge burden on the folks who can least afford or comply with it. Why not just close them down now – that will be the end result anyway.
2107. Breanna | May 12, 2008 at 6:02 pm
The Metro is one of my places to go before I die, because of all the great acts that play there.
If the ordinance is passed, a chunk of Chicago culture would disappear. No one wants that to happen.
2108. Carlee R | May 12, 2008 at 6:02 pm
Life is music. Taking away the music is taking away life. End of story.
2109. Susan Sniderman | May 12, 2008 at 6:02 pm
I do not support this ordinance.
2110. Jason Heppner | May 12, 2008 at 6:03 pm
I oppose this ordinance!
2111. Judy | May 12, 2008 at 6:03 pm
This is truly a sad moment for the creative world in Chicago.
How many more ways can Daley and “The City” get money from the average Joe and Jane??
Welcome to the era of NO civil liberties, NO private property and NO independent, non-corporation-backed art in the City of Chicago!!!
Consider this petition signed.
2112. Sean O'Looney | May 12, 2008 at 6:03 pm
This is absurd!!! The city needs to take into consideration the consequences and effects it has on all parties involved in its decision making!
2113. Kathrine Barnes | May 12, 2008 at 6:03 pm
The consequences of such an ordinance being passed decades before and the hundreds of voices that would have been stifled as a result speak to the musical influence of Chicago. From Muddy Waters and Howlin’ Wolf to Patti Smith and the Smashing Pumpkins, thousands are drawn to Chicago for its rich musical history that continues today. This ordinance would stop much of this influnce as well as detract from the draw that this city has for many tourists and visitors. Such irresponsible decision making should not be allowed to continue past its present stage and this ordinance should be turned down in an effort to preserve what is essentially Chicago: a rich underground musical scene.
2114. Robert Johnson | May 12, 2008 at 6:03 pm
Ridiculous. The most offensive part of this entire ordinance is that language specifically exempting large venues. Let’s not sell our souls Chicago.
2115. Sarah | May 12, 2008 at 6:04 pm
This ordinance seems unconstitutional, no? Licensing system here looks like a prior restraint on speech, which the City would have a very hard time justifying. Prevention of fire hazards is probably an insufficient reason because fire codes already exist to address that problem.
Stupid and unnecessary.
2116. Greg Sasso | May 12, 2008 at 6:05 pm
This a terrible terrible idea. It will help ruin a vital part of Chicago.
2117. Anna Basso | May 12, 2008 at 6:06 pm
I can’t believe that they’re trying to pass this ordinance. I can’t even imagine what it would be like if this was passed. The music scene here is so amazing, this will only ruin it.
2118. Rob Roubick | May 12, 2008 at 6:06 pm
Unbelievable!!! Typical Chicago BS, which is one of the reasons we moved out of the city. I still drive back for shows @ Empty Bottle, Old Town School & Abbey Pub, because Chicago still has so much to offer in that regard. But how much longer?
Worry about the crime rate, and the ridiculous gas prices, not
whether 75 people are seeing a band in a bar.
Chicago a world class city? No way, it’s still a backwards cowtown smack in the middle of flyover country.
2119. Robert L Sanchez | May 12, 2008 at 6:06 pm
I am a resident of the 2nd ward and a strong supporter and participant of Chicago cultural events. The proposed ordinance is just inconceivable to me. Although tragic, why can’t the city look beyond the E2 event as a hard lessoned learned. Penalties have already been implemented for those invollved. Why can’t club/venue owners take responsilbility working alongside more socially, responsible promoters? Working with future promotions, why do I feel a sense of my constitutinal rights are being somewhat violated?
2120. J.K. Wilm | May 12, 2008 at 6:07 pm
Sadly this doesn’t surprise me in a world where we MUST get our priorities in order. Add me to this ever growing list of discontented people. I’ll Rock Till’ I Drop!
2121. Joe Malone | May 12, 2008 at 6:07 pm
please no!
2122. Ellie Maybe / Eli Blair | May 12, 2008 at 6:07 pm
Don’t make Chicago another cultural casualty!
2123. Chad Devine | May 12, 2008 at 6:08 pm
I have sent emails to my alderman noting my disapproval.
2124. Joe Lukey | May 12, 2008 at 6:08 pm
I really feel strongly about the music scene in Chicago. Growing up here I have been going to see live music since my teens, (technically since I was 7 – my uncle took me to the Aragon Ballroom). I know big venues might not be hurt as a result of this ordinance, but there is a very vibrant local, independent, even “underground” music scene in Chicago that will be hurt. Music and live shows definitely kept me off the streets and kept me thinking about life and art and how to become a productive person instead of choosing a not so pleasant alternative. It also inspired me to pick up an instrument and play.
Please do not stifle young artists and struggling artists by making performance an obstacle. And furthermore I, as a spectator do not want to be restricted from possibly seeing some musician playing live music that could change a life, my life. The very sense of community and belonging is tied to these events and occasions.
I WANT to buy a house in Chicago, and the Chicago music scene is a huge portion of why I stay in Chicago and why I think Chicago is the most livable city in the US. If this changes New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco are very attractive alternatives. I know I am not the only one who teeters on moving to other locations if Chicago does not maintain its vibrant scenes and communities – one of which is undoubtedly the music scene. …Underground and Not.
2125. Fredric Hall | May 12, 2008 at 6:08 pm
As a supporter of the underground music scene in Chicago, this ordinance will stifle the music community to the core. This is just another attempt to destroy the already crumbling structure of underground music so that big venues like the Allstate can make more money. Just sickening.
2126. Chris Hastings | May 12, 2008 at 6:08 pm
Signed to stop the Promoter’s Ordinance.
2127. Lindsey Chesen | May 12, 2008 at 6:08 pm
I can’t believe this could possibly be true. This will limit the spectators because the ticket prices will no doubt sky-rocket just as everything else in Chicago is right now. This will limit the bands/performers because most of them are starving artists and they can’t afford to get licenses and pay fees based on expected audience. They are doing it for the love of the art, not profit (in most cases) and can’t fork over the cash just to have a show let alone try to make some sort of profit in a night.
This is ridiculous and whoever thought this up must not love art in any form. This will seriously hinder live art in Chicago and must be stopped in it’s tracks.
2128. neil jendon | May 12, 2008 at 6:08 pm
This ordinance will destroy Chicago music. This city is already woefully short on opportunities for musicians to perform. Please, do not pass this ordinance.
2129. Kathleen | May 12, 2008 at 6:08 pm
It’s the small theatre, music, and art groups that make this city so wonderful and special. Taking that away by requiring too much red tape will be devastating to the art scene. Please don’t do it!
2130. Marc Fischer | May 12, 2008 at 6:08 pm
This ordinance is a terrible idea and should not be signed.
2131. Alex P | May 12, 2008 at 6:08 pm
The music scene is a big part of Chicago’s appeal for me and a lot of others my age & I know this won’t do anything but harm.
2132. Nicholas Morrison | May 12, 2008 at 6:08 pm
Chicago is attracting more and more musicians away from New York and other places these days precisely because of the current ease with which a musician of any caliber can find a place to perform. The avant-garde jazz and other contemporary, experimental music forms I’m involved with here are flourishing more than in New York because small venues can exist to showcase it. They are clearly the ones that would suffer from this ordinance. Chicago is poised to grow more and more as a cultural center over the next decade; this ordinance would undoubtedly stifle that growth. As councilmen I’m sure these subcultures are not your cup of tea, or even on your radar. But we are your constituents, and we are speaking up.
2133. Adam Carter | May 12, 2008 at 6:09 pm
No to this ordinance.
2134. Thomas Tunks | May 12, 2008 at 6:09 pm
please don’t
2135. John K | May 12, 2008 at 6:09 pm
I oppose this ordinance.
2136. Elisa Foshay | May 12, 2008 at 6:09 pm
Please don’t pass the promoter’s ordinance! This will effect not just the music, but the theater and dance scenes in Chicago too. We already have enough trouble putting on shows, doing it in our free time and performing to small audiences. Please don’t make it harder (not to mention more expensive) to do what we love!
2137. ROBERT CARLETON | May 12, 2008 at 6:09 pm
I have been a professional Mime in Chicago for 35 years. I have performed at hundreds of special events for corporations, families and children. I represented the USA in China and even delivered a letter from Mayor Daley to the Mayor of shanghai. I did a halloween show at Schubas. Why is this city so intent on destroying the fabric of local artists and musicians. This is a terrible reflection of the City of Chicago and its lack of suport for the arts. I implore the alderman to take a look at the value of theater, music and the arts. This ordinance will destroy any young artist’s chances of creating their dreams.
2138. Kevin Ramm | May 12, 2008 at 6:09 pm
everyone who loves the chicago music scene, sign this!
2139. Cocoa | May 12, 2008 at 6:09 pm
<3 local music
support it.
dont prevent it.
2140. Jamie Hayes | May 12, 2008 at 6:09 pm
This is an outrage. The independent arts scene is a vital and unique part of Chicago. Cultural expression should be encouraged, not squashed by oppressive taxes and regulations. Most importantly we need the opportunity to express ourselves in order to have a healthy, free, and rich society and culture. But since this is coming down to money, this ordinance would effectively end the independent arts scene in Chicago, the promoters, the bands, the bartenders, the waiters, the lighting and sound designers, and the artists who work in this scene would be without work. additionally, the independent arts scene in Chicago attracts a large portion of tourists to this city. Consider those dollars lost if this ordinance passes.
2141. jennifer | May 12, 2008 at 6:10 pm
I am strongly opposed to this ordinance.
2142. czarth | May 12, 2008 at 6:10 pm
This ordinance is completely unacceptable
2143. Chloe Schofield | May 12, 2008 at 6:10 pm
this is seriousliy the craziest thing the City of Chicago has ever done. This is a serious punch in the chicago music scenes balls. Horrid Horrid.
PUT MY NAME ON THERE
2144. Peter Kennedy | May 12, 2008 at 6:10 pm
This ordinance is a terrible idea. How these people get reelected is completely beyond me.
2145. Joanna Primus | May 12, 2008 at 6:11 pm
Absolutely not!
2146. Tim Ryder | May 12, 2008 at 6:11 pm
This ordinance will do far more harm than good. I am very much opposed to this and will register my opposition with my vote come the next election.
2147. shawn mckelvie | May 12, 2008 at 6:11 pm
I do not support this ordinance. why hurt small business owners, and stifle artists in this city? why ruin a good thing? why mess with one of the best music cities in the world? why?! don’t do it.
2148. matthew hudson | May 12, 2008 at 6:11 pm
I am a brave man. My life has been devoted to promoting independent rock events in chicago for the past five years. Chicago will be a miserable place to live if this ordinance is passed!
2149. Rosie | May 12, 2008 at 6:11 pm
I do not live in Chicago (although I hope to, one day) but the vast majority of the bands I listen to – some friends, some now international stars – are from Chicago and started out at venues like the Metro, the Beat Kitchen, the FiresideBowl.
In restricting this forum for people to discover and enjoy live music on a small scale – and by potentially removing the outlets for some of the most talented individuals the industry will ever see – the industry in Chicago would struggle to survive.
Chicago is known for its vibrant music scene – don’t destroy that when it is growing so rapidly.
2150. Timmy | May 12, 2008 at 6:11 pm
I don’t really understand the benefits of this law. It seems like it will just hurt a budding underground scene of musicians. This also discourages Chicago kids under 21 to even bother to get involved with music because they wouldn’t even be able to get shows here. By suppressing musicians from sharing their art with others, the city of Chicago will be putting a ban on individuality and true artistic expression from those who sincerely believe in what they are doing. Instead, this “law” supports those who have already established themselves and are able to abide by “the rules”. I believe that if we do not question “laws” like this we will be giving up our rights and our freedom to express ourselves for others. So please, do not vote for this law.
2151. Dan Berger | May 12, 2008 at 6:11 pm
I vote NO!
2152. Amanda | May 12, 2008 at 6:11 pm
try out your voice
2153. Bill Brown | May 12, 2008 at 6:12 pm
It is not the purpose of the city or the government to require a fee of any promoter wishing to present an independent showcase of the Arts. All artists and promoters have a right to publicly exhibit and/or perform their work before an audience of willing attendees. This falls within the American right to peaceable assembly, an entitlement shared by all who live in this country and more specifically, this town. This can not carry a price. It must not.
2154. Tim Dornfeld | May 12, 2008 at 6:12 pm
I do not support this ordinance.
2155. C S Mondschea | May 12, 2008 at 6:12 pm
Save all the regulations and red tape for the airports. Creative artistic energy and experiences are the life blood of any great city. This ordinance is unnecessary. Controlling access to art performance is unessential to the life of our city. The city should not be a gatekeeper allowing only those with means and patience to deal with bureaucracy access to organizing performances.
2156. Tony Carr | May 12, 2008 at 6:12 pm
How is it that money can be more important than the city’s culture. Chicago is famous for all of these little shows, and “gifts” that is offered. This would be the death of these events. Just the fact that we have to now fight for them, makes me sad.
2157. Gene Barros | May 12, 2008 at 6:12 pm
If the aim of this ordinance is to push the music out to the suburbs, I don’t think you will get many positive responses from the people (me included). Let’s face it… Chicago is without a doubt THE hub of the art and music scene in Illinois.. what good would it do to break it up and scatter it into other parts of the state? If this indeed gets passed, the only thing that’s being done is giving people one less reason to visit the city of Chicago. I won’t lie; I like bragging to my friends that I was born and raised in this city, given its diversity and endless attractions and scenes. I vehemently disapprove of this proposal. Let’s not let this happen to our great city!!!
2158. Lyn Wolfson | May 12, 2008 at 6:12 pm
Oppose this ordinance!
2159. Michael Palascak | May 12, 2008 at 6:12 pm
I don’t know a lot about what’s going on but I do know my growth in the artistic profession of comedian has definitely benefitted from doing many shows that people put together who didn’t have 500 dollars or more to put it on.
2160. Tamara Porfirio | May 12, 2008 at 6:12 pm
Let’s please not hinder the culture of Chicago. The diversity of the music & arts scene will be devastatingly impacted should this ordinance be approved. Please put a stop to this action and vote against the proposed ordinance
2161. downside of manic | May 12, 2008 at 6:13 pm
when will it end?… is chicago only to become a tourist attraction? made up of FEES, TAXES, AND PERMITS. sign me up enough is enough. just so there is no misunderstanding i vote NO to this ordinance.
2162. Tracy Kreuser | May 12, 2008 at 6:13 pm
There is so much wrong with this.
2163. Erik Redman | May 12, 2008 at 6:13 pm
Asinine, it’s easily the most outrageous ordinance I’ve ever seen. I’m a high school student and love to go small venues because thats where the local and “less known” bands play. Tottaly rediculous.
2164. Michelle | May 12, 2008 at 6:14 pm
The city would suffer greatly should this be passed. I oppose this ordinance.
2165. Brad Cowan | May 12, 2008 at 6:14 pm
I can’t believe this! Aren’t there bigger priorities for our city’s leadership? Or is stepfordizing the city more important? The city needs more smaller venues to celebrate local talents, not turn them into Starbucks’!
2166. Brian Kolada | May 12, 2008 at 6:14 pm
This ordinance is insulting. What an ignorant attempt to destroy Chicago’s local music scene! I OPPOSE THIS ORDINANCE.
2167. Liz Sowa | May 12, 2008 at 6:14 pm
These expectations are unrealistic and are set in order for them NOT to be met. While I understand the safety precautions, I do not agree with the red tape this law would cause. It would destroy what it is supposedly meant to protect.
2168. Chris | May 12, 2008 at 6:15 pm
For a city that prides itself in the arts, how is this supposed to help the starving artist? This is a city that thrives itself in the arts, there are so many theaters in Chicago that were never meant to be theaters when built. I think this is a violation of “freedom of speech” if you ask me, what are they going to say next, there will be a fee for every time someone wants to voice their opinion? Music is a form of communication that should not be limited to those who can afford a promoter. It is a language that speaks itself through notes, and should be left that way.
2169. Helen Balasny | May 12, 2008 at 6:15 pm
This ordinance will destroy the Chicago independent cultural scene. Think of all the bands and performers that never would have been “Chicago’s own” if this ordinance was in place when they started out. Performers like Buddy Guy & Kurt Elling, to just name two out of thousands, that have brought tourists to this city, lining the pockets of the same mayor and alderman that want to kill the local cultural scene.
2170. Dan Conroy | May 12, 2008 at 6:15 pm
As a Chicago resident, I find this ordinance to be a disappointing example of a poorly stewarded government..
As a music and theater fan, I find this ordinance to be extremely disappointing in its potential to dissuade artists from even considering Chicago as a venus from performance.
As an attorney, I find this ordinance to be extraodinarily poorly drafted. The language is so broad that I would expect application of this law to be difficult in practice and burdensome to the police and the courts.
Please rethink this ordinance and redraft it in a way that would not penalize artists for making their art public.
Chicago’s cultural offerings are one of the very best things about a great city– don’t let lazy lawmaking get in the way of that.
2171. Matt Anderson | May 12, 2008 at 6:16 pm
I Have followed the local Music seen for over a decade. This ordinance will hurt all the great small places to see shows. It is just another way for the city to BANK off of all the Great local music and bars. What Chicago is Known for remember that
2172. Robert Martinez | May 12, 2008 at 6:16 pm
This is simply an atrocity. For a very long time Chicago has had a reputation for harboring a vibrant “music scene”. Whether it be classical, blues, jazz, folk, rock, hip hop or dance music Chicago ha s always had something to offer. The smaller music venues that are targeted by this ordinance are the exact same music venues that make up this city’s “music scene”. If this bill passes it will suck Chicago dry of one of the aspects of it’s identity. WE CANNOT LET THIS HAPPEN. PLEASE DO NOT APPROVE THIS ORDINANCE!!!!
2173. Rocky Catanese | May 12, 2008 at 6:16 pm
As a person not from the Chicago area (I’m from New Jersey), but who has toured the midwest before, I have always dreamed of playing the landmark venues in Chicago like Metro. Chicago is a great town, and has been really fun to visit and play at, and this kind of law would completely crush my dream and most opportunities for me and my band to play in Chicago without having major backing or some divine intervention. There is so much creative culture in the underground, there’s no reason to stifle it.
2174. Andreas Heinrich | May 12, 2008 at 6:17 pm
This ordinance is overkill, please do not pass a draconian compilation of legislation into actual law.
2175. William Burdett | May 12, 2008 at 6:17 pm
One of the things that makes this city great is its thriving music and theater community. This ordinance would cripple the vast of majority of the city’s most cutting edge artists (many of which promote their own shows), venues and promoters, eliminating a major draw for visitors and, as a result, decreasing money spent here.
So many great, incredible, awe-inspiring concerts and shows take place in this city, but they often end up pulling in less than a couple of hundred dollars. That gets split up by the venue, promoter, and however many artists there are. Under the proposed rules, how would artists be able to make any living at all? Even for artists who are doing it for the pure pleasure of it, not for money, do you really think that they’ll be willing to go through all of the hurdles listed in the ordinance just so they can do what they love in front of a small audience?
Please don’t pass this ordinance.
2176. Anne Fisher | May 12, 2008 at 6:17 pm
Dear City Council Members,
Please do not stifle our great city’s artistic creativity! Please do not pass this ordinance making it more difficult for promoters to bring great entertainment to Chicago.
Thank you,
A live music fan…
Anne Fisher
2177. Owen Field | May 12, 2008 at 6:17 pm
The ordinance is unnecessary and another obstacle for smaller venues to serve an audience.
2178. Amanda Burr | May 12, 2008 at 6:17 pm
Chicago is vibrant BECAUSE of the work of independent artists. Don’t shut us down.
2179. Sheila Majumdar | May 12, 2008 at 6:17 pm
This ordinance would ruin Chicago’s vitality. The smaller venues provide a musical haven for those interested in listening and viewing performances beyond what mainstream music and theater has to offer. Don’t take that away from us!
2180. Kimberley D. | May 12, 2008 at 6:17 pm
It’s ridiculously absurd how these officials have proposed to close down businesses that have shaped the music scene, CHICAGO’S HISTORY. They are demolishing pasts, unforgettable memories, and the firsts of many. Removing all independent music venues will inevitably turn Chicago into a black-and-white dull Pleasantville. It is absolutely pointless to lose tax dollars over this. I wholeheartedly oppose this trainwreck.
2181. Aaron Krall | May 12, 2008 at 6:18 pm
Please register my opposition to the “Event Promoters” ordinance.
2182. Marya Lucianna Smith | May 12, 2008 at 6:18 pm
This is just plain horrible fascism. Don’t forget to tell all your friends…
2183. Kimmii Champagne | May 12, 2008 at 6:19 pm
This is ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS!
Can’t you see you’re destroying one of Chicago’s biggest assets?
I COMPLETELY OPPOSE THIS ORDINANCE.
The Chicago local music scene is one of the best things around, don’t destroy it, embrace it.
2184. Marissa S | May 12, 2008 at 6:19 pm
That’s a terrible idea. Stifling creativity sets people ina position to become behind. That happened in Europe- Spain is still behind today in medicine because they significantly lowered the number of doctors in their country. The damage to Chicago if creativity among people who cannot “pay for it” or whatever would be horrible.
2185. Benjamin Kennedy | May 12, 2008 at 6:19 pm
Not only is this bad for visitors but for those who have moved here for the sould purpose of furthering their career with the help that being from Chicago brings. With out the smaller veniews some of the great entertainers of our time would not have gotten the start they needed to put Chicago on the map.
This is not only bad for the economy when it comes to tourists but also when it comes to new residents.
2186. Aliza Haber | May 12, 2008 at 6:20 pm
I’m extremly confused…Chicago is local music. It is culture. It is the place where things start. This ordidance is completely bogus! To be honest all I know is the smaller scenes. My favorite venue happens to be the Beat Kitchen and they cater to small local bands and comedians that just want their stuff heard. I am absolutely…angered by this. Any big band or comedian or dancer had to start somewhere and a lot of them are from Chicago. You will basically be cutting off any new art and music that may arise. The big bands will become old and there will be nothing left because no one was able to make a small gig at the local venue. Stop this craziness and do not let this ordinance pass.
2187. Wes H | May 12, 2008 at 6:20 pm
This is a bad, bad situation
2188. Lucy Lubinsky | May 12, 2008 at 6:20 pm
I am strongly opposed to this ordinance and feel if passed it will be a great liability to the city.
2189. Jason Soliday | May 12, 2008 at 6:21 pm
I’ve lived in Chicago for the last thirteen years for one reason only… because it’s the best city for live music in the country. Not because of 500+ seat venues, but because of all the small bars, cafes, and artist-run spaces. As both a musician and as a listener, I see no point in staying in a city that seems downright hostile to everything I hold dear. if these places go, I go.
2190. Art Z | May 12, 2008 at 6:21 pm
Simply ridiculous! I can’t understand the need for such an ordinance except to make money in a “legal” way. (As appose to all the other ways Mayor Daley gets it. Remember the FBI investigations???)
2191. Nicole A. Macaluso-Collins | May 12, 2008 at 6:21 pm
So much of Chicago’s genuine culture is disappearing overnight… It is truly sad to see individuals who obviously do not value the rich heritage which we must keep alive! This ordinance will truly hurt artists and musicians as well as permanently damage what Chicago Culture means; it’s significance and it’s educational values to the local society!
2192. John Mossman | May 12, 2008 at 6:21 pm
Chicago would suffer from this ordinance and give us yet another black eye as the city that works to make it hard for business. While I support demanding safe practices for venues, I oppose this ordinance!
2193. Chris Miller | May 12, 2008 at 6:21 pm
This proposed law is utterly appalling. I vote NO!
2194. Brandon DeJaynes | May 12, 2008 at 6:22 pm
This is outrageous!!! Chicago has a music scene bursting with talent, so let’s give these artists every chance to perform, free of restrictions!!
Let’s not let Chicago set the standard across the country,
NO to this ordinance!!!!
2195. Natasha Kaminsky | May 12, 2008 at 6:23 pm
This ordinance will hurt Chicago artists and the economy. There are better ways to ensure a safe environment for patrons, ones that don’t favor the already successful and squash the little guys. No Good!
2196. Matt Schrecengost | May 12, 2008 at 6:23 pm
As someone who has worked in politics in the past, I’m sure there is some good reason for this new potential ordinance. But whatever it is, the negatives just outweigh the positives by a mile. This city is quirky, and just small enough that the little guy can still win… please don’t squash that. Please don’t make me move to Portland.
2197. Bill Dudlicek | May 12, 2008 at 6:24 pm
I did not have enough time to read thoroughly through the whole article. But what I see here is pay the city a lot of money and they will allow you to perform. Oh no, somebody is making a profit from there business and we are not getting our fair (majority) share. I am worried that this will spill over into the street fest seen. Oh no, someone has a successful street fest
2198. Tina Winther | May 12, 2008 at 6:24 pm
Seems to me that the general language of this ordinance has the potential of strangling small-time, niche, or even “benefit” cultural performances that are already surviving on a shoestring and will result in the “bad” promoters its meant to target, going further underground and out of reach of needed supervision and regulation. Let’s not punish the good guys in our PRECIOUS (DIVERSE and still VULNERABLE) CHICAGO ENTERTAINMENT SCENE. Take the time to draft it accurately. Does the City Council truly understand the context and ramifications!!!???
2199. Wayne Purdy | May 12, 2008 at 6:24 pm
If there was an ordinance as such while I was a young starving mucian, I would have remained starving. I would never had the experience of playing at U.S. Blues Chicago wit such upcoming great as, Coco Talior, Buddy Guy, Dave Mathews, or got to jam with Mick Jager just because he decided to check out the club while we were playing. Lets not forget to mention the fact in the 80′s getting Fridge Perry and Steve McMichles up to sing the blues and the Super Bear Shuffle. Experiences I will treasure forever. This ordinance would be a crime. Stifling young wannabe’s and the greats such wannabe’s became.
Wayne Purdy
2200. John Dewey | May 12, 2008 at 6:24 pm
If Chicago lost all of it’s smaller live music venues, I don’t know what I would do with myself. A large part of my social life revolves around supporting independent artists in the Chicagoland area, and if Chicago passes this ordinance, I fear alot of the performances that I attend will no longer be possible.
Please don’t pass this ordinance.
2201. Matt Dennewitz | May 12, 2008 at 6:24 pm
What a horrible and ill-conceived plan.
2202. ariana | May 12, 2008 at 6:25 pm
that’s really stupid and i oppose this ordinance, and good music that came from Chicago had to come from somewhere, and forcing promoters to get licenses would kill the Chicago music scene.
2203. Anna J. | May 12, 2008 at 6:25 pm
As a music lover who appreciates Chicago’s music scene and the bands & artists that have come out of it, I am higly against this ordinance.
2204. Tamra Wysocki-Niimi | May 12, 2008 at 6:25 pm
I oppose the promoter’s ordinance in its current form. Boo promoter’s ordinance. Work with the community on this!
2205. Lisa G | May 12, 2008 at 6:25 pm
This is what Chicago is all about. You cant take away the arts from this great city!
2206. Zachary Callen | May 12, 2008 at 6:26 pm
We just don’t need this.
Zachary Callen
Music Fan
Chicago, IL
2207. Lindsay Weinberg | May 12, 2008 at 6:26 pm
Chicago’s arts scene must be allowed to thrive and grow, at all levels!
2208. Adam Strohm | May 12, 2008 at 6:26 pm
I cannot fathom why anyone would support this ordinance, as it directly opposes so much of what makes Chicago such an amazing city. Any alderman who supports this measure can be sure that he or she won’t be getting my vote when the time comes.
2209. mackenzie | May 12, 2008 at 6:26 pm
Don’t eliminate the music community from performing in Chicago!
I don’t see any benefit in this!!!
Don’t pass this law!!!
2210. melissa geils | May 12, 2008 at 6:26 pm
As a chicago native who has been attending independent shows and concerts for over 15 years, I vehemently oppose this ordinance! To suppress the freedom of the independent, locat arts/music community like this is horrifying. Please vote “no” on this shameful and embarassing ordinance!
2211. Shelly Kumar | May 12, 2008 at 6:26 pm
The law is intended for large clubs which may get over crowded. However, this bill is including all the promoters and all the events, and even those events which may have as little as an audience of 20 persons. Obviously, this bill should be revised so that it serves its intended purpose, and at the same time it does not shut down a large number of smaller events at smaller venues.
2212. David Whiteis | May 12, 2008 at 6:26 pm
Pick your musical genre: jazz; blues; rock & roll; gospel; R&B/soul; house music; hip-hop/rap. . . the sounds for which Chicago is internationally known, right? And every last one of ‘em has blossomed and thrived in this city BECAUSE OF “smaller” venues and events put on by courageous “small-time” promoters who took chances and booked shows by artists who were, at the time, either unknown or just getting their start.
Even today, despite the myriad pressures that make it increasingly difficult to make any money at all booking a show in a small or mid-sized venue, shows such as this DO go on, every weekend, in clubs, theaters, show lounges, auditoriums, and similar venues all over the city. They may feature national acts who still perform for a strong local base; they may feature up-and-coming local artists; in many cases, they feature both. They are the lifeblood of our musical culture.
This ordinance must be defeated. Where’s Jerry “Ice Man” Butler when we need him???
2213. Jessie Wayburn | May 12, 2008 at 6:27 pm
This ordinance would rocket Chicago into a backward and un-beautiful stance. WHO WOULD BENEFIT?
2214. Ken Nielsen | May 12, 2008 at 6:27 pm
One of Chicago’s greatest assets is that it allows creative people a multitude of creative outlets for whatever creative tendency they may have and still allow them to eat once in a while. The ordinance is narrow sighted, destructive and counterproductive. Please do not pass this ordinance.
2215. Robert Zofkie | May 12, 2008 at 6:28 pm
This ordinance is a BAD idea. It will be impossible to enforce consistently or evenly, it is unduly onerous to small venues, and it stifles free expression.
2216. Jordan McEuen | May 12, 2008 at 6:29 pm
I strongly disagree with this proposed ordinance and am leaving a comment so that my voice can be heard. Do not pass!
2217. Noah Hewitt | May 12, 2008 at 6:29 pm
I oppose this ordinance.
2218. laura ferber | May 12, 2008 at 6:29 pm
this does nothing but hinder artistic expression.
what harm or foul is done by these local musicians?
plus, shouldn’t you be doing something else with your power like, taking care of poverty, gangs and narcotics?
2219. KELI RAVEN | May 12, 2008 at 6:29 pm
Stop the promoter’s ordinance!
let us pursue our careers & dreams.
2220. James Davis | May 12, 2008 at 6:29 pm
For the jazz musicians young and old of this city, this ordinance would be quite crippling to the community and music currently happening around Chicago. I am one of these musicians, and suely hope that this thing doesn’t get passed.
Let’s do what we can.
2221. Robert Martinez | May 12, 2008 at 6:29 pm
This is an atrocity!! For a very long time Chicago has had the reputation for harboring a vibrant “music scene”. Whether it be classical, blues, jazz, folk, rock, hip hop or dance music Chicago has always had something to offer. The smaller music venues that are targeted by this ordinance are the exact same music venues that make up the city’s “music scene”. If this bill passes it will suck Chicago dry of one of the main aspects of it’s identity. WE CANNOT LET THIS HAPPEN. PLEASE DO NOT APPROVE THIS ORDINANCE!!!
2222. Robert Raddatz | May 12, 2008 at 6:29 pm
I highly disapprove of this. Since most of the shows I attend are the venues that are targeted, I have no choice other than to be disappointed with this idea. It may just be me, but this seems one step toward becoming a police state. I dont need to explain. Look up the HR-1955. Creativity and free-speech are being attacked in wide aspects now. Point in case, this.
2223. Sadie | May 12, 2008 at 6:30 pm
This ordinance is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard of. I strongly oppose it. Many of my favorite bands would be nowhere without these small venues. It kills hope for alot of young artists. Without small venues the music scene is going to start dying off and that’s not right because there is a bunch of talent out there just waiting to be heard.
2224. Jack M | May 12, 2008 at 6:30 pm
This is completely ridiculous. Down with this ordinance!
2225. aaron lippelt | May 12, 2008 at 6:31 pm
The forces aligned to continue the devaluation of creative and meaningful existence are gaining momentum. The passage of ill-conceived, frequently self-serving, legislation has become the accepted folly of government – I hope to keep Chicago above the violently inorganic, corporate bloodstream that seems to be coursing through the veins of this country.
2226. Jeanne Clark | May 12, 2008 at 6:31 pm
Please stop this proposal! It’s really bad for the development of music and theatre in Chicago. Small music venues and theatres are the lifeblood of creativity.
2227. Lily Emerson | May 12, 2008 at 6:31 pm
The vibrant arts scene is what drew me to Chicago, and live performance (be it music, theatre, or anything else) is what continually keeps me inspired in the artistic world. It’s an incredibly important part of any community and needs to be preserved. We simply cannot allow this ordinance to pass.
2228. Tim | May 12, 2008 at 6:31 pm
Really?!?! Absolutely inane! Trying to root out underground promoters by making legit promoters and consistently-safe venues such as Schubas and Empty Bottle submit to fingerprinting and outrageous fees?! How does that help? Those fees CERTAINLY won’t go to helping establish more “safe” venues, or increase music education in schools, or even patch the potholes outside of Empty Bottle. So, if this passes, I guess we can expect more heavy-handed raids on events like the Printers Ball last year, right?! Hipsters bearing free ‘zines are not exactly militants.
2229. SIerra Cashion | May 12, 2008 at 6:31 pm
This just isn’t fair. Chicago is my dream town, and to see this happening is heart breaking. They can’t do this.
2230. Leslie Strong | May 12, 2008 at 6:32 pm
This is absolutely ridiculous. I really hope they don’t manage to get this passed, as it will kill the amazing local scene Chicago is so lucky to have.
2231. Richard Madden | May 12, 2008 at 6:32 pm
This is such a bad idea. It’s already hard enough for promoters club to get by, now they want to add other, uneeded expenses. A big part of what attracted me to this great city was it’s music and theater scenes, and this would really screw them up. I will be there on Wed, voicing my displeasure.
2232. Shere | May 12, 2008 at 6:32 pm
My best friend and I have fallen in love with the city of Chicago and plan on moving there someday in the near future. A big part of that is because of the music scene we have heard so much about. If this passes, what kind of music scene will there be when we get there? Save the independent music!
2233. BenTurnerOverDrive | May 12, 2008 at 6:33 pm
Don’t let this ridiculous propsal become law. Chicago thrives become of independent events of all shapes and sizes.
2234. Lillie Frances | May 12, 2008 at 6:33 pm
From what has been described, I do not support this ordinance. Who does it benefit? Please do not pass this.
2235. Stacey Busbee | May 12, 2008 at 6:33 pm
Chicago’s music scene is unique and vital. This ordinance would profoundly limit the possibility for new art and ideas. Chicago’s cultural scene depends on the small artist.
2236. dylan peterson | May 12, 2008 at 6:33 pm
I’ve been writing for Relevant Magazine’s music blog for about a year now, and the vast majority of my content would be blank had it not been for my beloved Chicago music scene. Chicago has so much to offer in the arts and culture, but when I say this, I’m not thinking of Looptopia or Millennium Park. The real mecca of arts and culture in Chicago is its’ independent art scene. every night there’s more going on in this city than I can handle, and that should not change.
The politicians in this city need to know how devastating this proposed law would be. independent art makes this city what it is, if the numbers don’t prove this, our backlash will. I don’t know what it will look like, but it will be unbelievably ugly if “the man” stifles Chicago’s music scene. i don’t even want to think about it.
leave the venues alone. find some dirty money elsewhere. but truly, if you take a swipe at Chicago’s art world, you will absolutely see consequences.
2237. David Hogan | May 12, 2008 at 6:33 pm
I will vote againt whomever votes yea on this proposal.
2238. Heather Steele | May 12, 2008 at 6:34 pm
This would ruin Chicago and everything it stands for
2239. Justin | May 12, 2008 at 6:34 pm
Umm…are you kidding me? This is the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard of!!
2240. Amy Petersen | May 12, 2008 at 6:34 pm
I oppose this ordinance.
2241. Dave Nemo | May 12, 2008 at 6:34 pm
Government overreaching again…Ron Paul
2242. Stacey Busbee | May 12, 2008 at 6:34 pm
This ordinance will ruin the chance for the emergence of new art!
2243. Maggie | May 12, 2008 at 6:34 pm
this is insane. just keep things the way they are and everyone will be happy. there are so many great bands that come from the chicago but if it weren’t for smaller clubs they probably wouldn’t have made it where they are today.
2244. Arianna | May 12, 2008 at 6:34 pm
Please don’t pass the ordinance.
2245. Miranda L. Tarrow | May 12, 2008 at 6:35 pm
I’m a Michigan resident who schedules trips to Chicago (about twice a year) around concerts there, typically at smaller clubs like the Empty Bottle or Subterranean. While my friends and I are there, of course we visit museums, record and clothing stores, restaurants, etc., but the tipping point is *always* a DJ or band. If Chicago’s music scene falters, I doubt we’d still choose to vacation (and spend our money) there.
2246. Christopher | May 12, 2008 at 6:35 pm
I booked shows for three years, and it made me who I am today. Too see Chicago music fail would make my heart break and I would lose a lot of who I am. I speak for many people when I say this is wrong and it makes me nose start to tingle when I think about losing my place of passion.
2247. Ashley Rosales | May 12, 2008 at 6:35 pm
This ordinance is not a good idea and doesn’t allow people to express themselves and promote their own stuff. That’s practically prohibiting freedom of speech and expression.
2248. Heather Perry | May 12, 2008 at 6:36 pm
This is a wonderful opportunity for the artists of Chicago to band together and defend our passions, our principles, and our vocations. We must keep this ordinance from happening!
2249. Erik Wessing | May 12, 2008 at 6:36 pm
This is not OK. I am especially disturbed by the requirement that the police be notified a week in advance. The police should have no business worrying a week ahead about a lawful assembly of any kind, entertainment, political, or otherwise.
2250. Scott Pacyna | May 12, 2008 at 6:36 pm
The Chicago music community needs to be able to have independent voices, and a healthy selection of options to continue to thrive as a musical oasis in this country. The clubs and bars of our city already have to comply with a heavy amount of licenses and laws in their fight to survive, so adding these requirements will silence the variety and force us all to only listen to what Live Nation says we can. Please kill this law before it goes any further.
2251. Rebekah Gorbea | May 12, 2008 at 6:36 pm
The ability of local music to blossom and evolve is the stimulus to the popular bands of today. Stifling it, can hinder these great talents just waiting to be found. Please don’t pass this!!
2252. Erika | May 12, 2008 at 6:37 pm
This is ridiculous! Please don’t let this thing pass! Good luck guys!
2253. Elgie Oliver McCoy | May 12, 2008 at 6:37 pm
OMERTA
2254. Jack Wagner | May 12, 2008 at 6:37 pm
Every band needs a place to start and there is no way a band on the rise can be expected to start at an event with a big enough draw to pay for an insurance bill of 300 thousand dollars. House shows and local venues are where all bands get their start (unless you are on american idol) I urge the aldermen to think of the music they enjoy and ponder where exactly those bands started out and where they would be today if it was not for their own local support.
2255. William Higgins | May 12, 2008 at 6:37 pm
All Chicago Musicians, hobbyist and pro, require the availability of local venues, as doe the nature of culture in general for future generations. There would be no CHICAGO BLUES if this kind of ledgeslation had always been in place. Keith Richards would never been inspired by the likes of Muddy Waters and thus the British working class youth who cultivated rock and roll would never have had the inspiration to do so.
Everything from “CHICAGO Jazz” to “CHICAGO House” and in between would have similarly lost their influence in part of the global culture.
Councilmen: Amend this so that it doesn’t hurt our culture or just say NO to this ordinance!!!
2256. jenny hylas | May 12, 2008 at 6:38 pm
senseless regulations of creativity and community
2257. Janet Kuypers | May 12, 2008 at 6:38 pm
One of the beautiful things about Chicago is that there are choices – and one of those choices is in venues for performance art. It would be an offense to one of the things that makes this city great if any legislation is passed to restrict and freedoms in this way. My friend are actors, and with this there would be no place for them to work. Musicians would no longer have a venue in this city. If anyone voting has any respect for the people of this city, or have any respect for keeping this city as a thriving creative venue, they should vote no to immediately stop this affront to the creative abilities of Chicago..
2258. Russ Savage | May 12, 2008 at 6:38 pm
the music scene is why I moved to chicago.. I don’t know what i’d do without being able to go listen to some good music at a local bar for 10$… please don’t take this away from me.. i’ll snap.. and it’ll make chicago more like all the lame cities i passed up.
2259. Rob Ray | May 12, 2008 at 6:39 pm
Please do not pass this. It’s absurd. – Rob Ray
2260. Joe Chavez | May 12, 2008 at 6:39 pm
This is ridiculous. Please tell everyone you know to sign this. We must stick together to fight this!
Joe Chavez
The Joe Chavez Group
Manager/Promoter
http://www.myspace.com/simplisticurge
http://www.myspace.com/theheroinerock
2261. cindy thompson | May 12, 2008 at 6:39 pm
This ordinanced should be banished.
2262. Adrian Dimond | May 12, 2008 at 6:40 pm
This ordinance is completely unreasonable , please stop!
2263. John Riordan | May 12, 2008 at 6:40 pm
I am strongly opposed to this proposal. It would have a terrible impact on Chicago’s music scene which has been doing just fine without any such ordinance. It is not necessary in the least.
2264. Peter Eriksson | May 12, 2008 at 6:40 pm
I understand that the city needs to fun itself and maintain programs but this seems like a clear example of a poor balancing of finances. If you have to hurt the culture that organically grows out of your hometown to eventually pay for culture, then aren’t we must shuffling the deck and hurting those that do so independently and out of their own desires and initiatives, which should be true source of culture in the first place?
2265. Ricki HIll | May 12, 2008 at 6:40 pm
What is the meaning of this nonsense? It will benefit NO one. Think about what this will mean for the entire city. Stop this ordinace from moving forward with devastating impact.
2266. maddy s | May 12, 2008 at 6:40 pm
As someone who is deeply influenced by the Chicago music scene (I don’t live in Chicago myself), I can’t even imagine the negative effects of this “ordinance”. The majority of bands are playing at venues with capacities less than 500, and Chicago’s city council should be encouraging, not restricting, these bands and musicians of all kinds to flourish.
2267. Chris Leeson | May 12, 2008 at 6:41 pm
Support local art and artists. Lets not hinder something that was created to make life a little more enjoyable.
2268. Lindsay Britts | May 12, 2008 at 6:41 pm
Please oppose this ordinance!
2269. Keelin Wyman | May 12, 2008 at 6:42 pm
I live for live music.
2270. Jocelyn Geboy | May 12, 2008 at 6:42 pm
Dear City Council:
While it is an honor to have such a big name event like Lollapalooza in our fair city, I’m often reminded during the weekend-long exercise in physical endurance of how spoiled I am. I only make the effort one time that weekend to camp out for hours to get front row for a favorite band and spend the rest of the time happily watching the rest of the shows from middle of the crowd or somewheres on the lawn, enjoying the views on the large screen. In doing so, I am always confronted with the fact that every other time of year, I’m usually up close and personal with nearly all the bands I choose to see … many of them playing at Lollapalooza.
Why is this? Because I see shows at Schubas, Double Door, Logan Square Auditorium, Metro, Park West, the Riv, the Vic, the Abbey Pub, and if I really get adventurous, the Aragon. These are venues that are intimate and beautiful and each have their own personal character. They allow for incredible interactions between audience and performer as well as provide the opportunity to see world-class entertainment for affordable prices.
And theater, comedy, improvisation, performance art. Open a Time Out Chicago, a Chicago Reader or go to the Chicagoist website and see the myriad of events going on on any given day or night. To think that these things would be squelched by a draconian set of rules and regulations is terrifying.
I understand the basis of this ordinance stems from the tragic E2 disaster which killed innocent victims due to the reckless negligence of the club owners. However, the main tenets of this ordinance do not address the real concerns which caused that tragedy — a building that had various code violations, for starters.
Instead, this handicaps event promoters who want to hold events in locations that are more than legal, well-staffed, properly insured and highly respected in their neighborhoods, their industries and b their peers.
Let’s slow down and really take a look at this. This ordinance is not what Chicago needs to help the music, art, performance and cultural communities. This would be decimate them.
Sincerely yours,
Jocelyn Geboy
Chicago, IL 60625
2271. ellen floren | May 12, 2008 at 6:42 pm
How many more small venues do we have to have close because of the of the cost to the small owner… If the way of music here is only large venues…that’s enough for me to leave the city…
Please be careful not to destroy the music scene that keeps our city alive..
Ellen floren
2272. Keeton Chamberlain | May 12, 2008 at 6:42 pm
I moved to Chicago because of it’s music scene. Please don’t ruin this city with this silly ordinance. The staus quo is fine here.
2273. Evan Lindorff-Ellery | May 12, 2008 at 6:42 pm
Letter I wrote to my alderwoman and a few others :
I am appalled that the “Event Promoters” ordinance is being voted on in its current form (or at all). Needless to say, this will *severely* damage the strong and exciting music scene which makes this city so spectacular. I came to this city to experience its music community, and I will leave if such an ordinance is passed. I am not alone with my feelings. It is simply disgusting when the City blatantly brushes aside the thriving musicians and smaller venues which are such an integral and cohesive element to the city’s creative networks.
This news makes me so very angry and sad. Please don’t let this pass. Let the community negotiate and work on the ordinance first, so it can suit all of our needs.
Thank you.
2274. Kevin Kalal | May 12, 2008 at 6:43 pm
This is absolutely ridiculous and needs to be stopped dead in it’s tracks. You may gladly use my name against this act.
2275. Michael Anthony Fraser | May 12, 2008 at 6:43 pm
All of my family is from Chicago, and though I was born and raised in Texas, I value the city as my second home. It would be cruel and unusual to cripple the small-time performers in such a culturally rich place.
Michael Fraser
2276. John Salazar | May 12, 2008 at 6:43 pm
This is nuts! I completely oppose this ordinance.
2277. siwook | May 12, 2008 at 6:43 pm
this is ridiculous
2278. Elizabeth | May 12, 2008 at 6:43 pm
Please don’t limithe possibilities of live performances!!!
2279. Mim Hoffman | May 12, 2008 at 6:44 pm
Totally unreasonable. Must everything in Chicago be viewed as a revenue center for the city? What about art?
2280. Chris Kalis | May 12, 2008 at 6:44 pm
Another ordinance, The City that works is working to destroy its own music and cultural scene
2281. Mike Laurence | May 12, 2008 at 6:44 pm
Please do not vote for this ordinance. I have no doubt that it would damage the vibrancy of Chicago’s beloved music and performance scene beyond repair.
2282. Kay Gonzalez | May 12, 2008 at 6:44 pm
You have got to be insane, why do people come up with ridiculous schemes to “help” whatever the hell they are trying to help? Why don’t people focus more of their energy on something meaningful and worthwhile. Instead of trying to smoother the things that are meaningful and worthwhile.
2283. jeff matheis | May 12, 2008 at 6:45 pm
this ordinance could be enough to send a lot of the local bans packing to other cities that are more supportive of local art.
2284. Ted R | May 12, 2008 at 6:45 pm
I do not support this ordinance as it takes the entrepreneurial spirit out of Chicago and will undoubtedly siphon the musical talent to other cities willing to embrace creativity in all its glory.
I work in an ad agency downtown and it’s a creative business that thrives on creative people collaborating to fuel inspiration and ideas.
If the music industry starts to crumble in Chicago it will be like a domino effect and other industries will feel the pain. Advertising included.
Save Chicago creativity. Don’t pass this ordinance.
2285. Karlheinz | May 12, 2008 at 6:45 pm
Perhaps I missed a link or something, but is there some sort of online petition to show our opposition to the ordinance?
I’m not from Chicago, but I play there occasionally, and I’d hate to see the venues I like get shut down.
2286. Laura Menheere | May 12, 2008 at 6:45 pm
Please do not pas this ordinance!
2287. Becky Koppel | May 12, 2008 at 6:45 pm
I’m hoping that the people who have the ability to stop this ordinance from being adopted, will do so. Chicago is well known for the music that is played here. This not only includes larger bands and venues, but also the smaller venues and bands such as my band, Environmental Encroachment. Our band is made up of over a dozen Chicago residents from the age of twenty to sixty who perform music for children at schools, adults in bars, and a mix of people in parades here in Chicago and in other great cities on tour. This ordinance would keep us from playing. Our band and many other bands like us are what people come to Chicago to see. Please be reasonable and realize what a gap there would be in the entertainment scene in this great city if this ordinance goes through. What a shame it would be for the performers, their fans, the venues and the people of Chicago as a whole.
2288. Steven | May 12, 2008 at 6:46 pm
This is ridiculous, are you trying to kill the music/performing arts community?!
As an artist of any kind, or a fan of the arts – this ordinance should not even be considered… be realistic.
2289. David Donnelly | May 12, 2008 at 6:46 pm
Almost all of my friends and I grew up in the Chicago music scene. This ordinance would do a big disservice to the city and leave a huge void where a thriving music community once exhisted! We can’t let this happen for our good and the good of the generations that will have their own experiences.
2290. Gacy33 | May 12, 2008 at 6:47 pm
Even here in Indianapolis, Chicago’s great music scene is known. All the history of jazz, blues, and rock and roll can not be erased with this ridiculous ordinance.
Keep on rocking Chicago!
-Gacy33
2291. Tim McPherrin | May 12, 2008 at 6:47 pm
Chicago has the best music scene in the country. Ruining it would bring chaos. Screw this ordinance.
2292. Crystal | May 12, 2008 at 6:47 pm
It’s ridiculous that we even need to HAVE this petition!
2293. Jane | May 12, 2008 at 6:48 pm
Please do not pass this evil thing.
2294. Evan Chames | May 12, 2008 at 6:48 pm
This is beyond ridiculous. Use my name against this bullshit ordinance.
big events suck!
2295. Casey | May 12, 2008 at 6:48 pm
This ordinance is terrible, they are robbing the culture of this city and it is so good. Musicians depend on these small places to get off of their feet and into the scene and this law will kill any chance that they have of that
2296. Coal Train | May 12, 2008 at 6:48 pm
Rock ‘n’ roll saved my soul!
2297. Marco Verzocchi | May 12, 2008 at 6:48 pm
I’m originally from Europe and places like the Hideout, the Empty Bottle, Schubas,….. are one of the things which keeps me working and living in this city. This ordinance would be a disaster for the small venues and would result in a reduction of the quality and quantity of the cultural offer in the city.
2298. Chris Clark | May 12, 2008 at 6:48 pm
As a supporter of DIY Ethics, and the DIY music community I find this ordinance ridiculous. Why undercut small venues and kill the underground music community?
If this passes, a large and very beautiful part of chicago’s culture will be gone forever.
Chris Clark,
DIY Supporter.
2299. Jackie Nees | May 12, 2008 at 6:48 pm
This should not be passed!
2300. Marissa Menefee | May 12, 2008 at 6:49 pm
This is rediculous! The Metro and the Riviera are my favorite venues for shows and they are a part of Chicago culture….i think this ordinence needs to stop!
2301. Pete Del Re | May 12, 2008 at 6:49 pm
this proposed ordinance is horrible and predatory against smaller venues. Chicago has a rich history of music, plays and arts in general – wholly supported by the smaller and independent venues. I urge all City Council members to vote against it.
2302. david and Kimberly Cody | May 12, 2008 at 6:49 pm
The music scene is the only reason I still live in Illinois. Do not pass bad laws…
2303. Nora | May 12, 2008 at 6:49 pm
Utterly ridiculous and obviously created by a group that is not exposed to the lovely and amazing thing that is REAL Chicago Culture. If it’s not Wicked or a huge sell out crowd at Soldier Field (both of which I enjoy, of course) most of these rule making folks just don’t get it. I say, GET IT. True inspiration is found in smaller venues, where creativity is not stifled, ideas flourish, and people leave having enjoyed something amazing.
This ordinance is going to take away from the many things that make this city great – Please think twice before passing this.
thank you.
Nora Fabiana
2304. Faye | May 12, 2008 at 6:50 pm
It wasn’t irresponsible promoting that caused the E2 disaster. It’s the legal system not following up on its own decisions.
Try to imagine chicago without the music scene.
Don’t make that a reality.
2305. Ashley Di Buduo | May 12, 2008 at 6:50 pm
I strongly disagree with this being passed. I hope we can turn this around.
2306. James Barber | May 12, 2008 at 6:51 pm
Why would someone turn closes the door on this cities not only vibrant, but historic music and theatre scene. If this goes through it could put great venues like the metro, beat kitchen, subterranean, double door, reggies, bottom lounce, and several more
stop the cultureless pigs from ruining it for the rest of us!
2307. Eddie Martinez | May 12, 2008 at 6:51 pm
I can’t believe that this ordinance is being rushed along.What do they have to gain except for strong armimg people out of business and targeting music listeners as possible crime suspects.Why do the police have to be informed that a small venue is going to have a band? I sometimes drive all the way from Milwaukee up to 2 hours to see some of Chicagos finest local bands(Simplistic Urge,Heavy The Fall,Mindsight,Disonic etc..)
We actually have managed to get those bands up here in Wisconsin and they are developing fans here.Isn’t that important? Showing other cities and towns your proudest exporters of Chicago culture and Art.These “Artist” should not be denied the breeding grounds on which they hone their skills to become World Class performers and when they do Chicago is always the first to claim their hometown heroes. So instead of creating ordinances to squeeze your music purveyors out of business you should be finding ways to help these artist promote your city(Which most do when they promote their bands) How do you think Disturbed got started? Now they are recognized Worldwide as giants in the industry and pay homage to Chicago regularly.If this ordinance had been in effect 10 years ago we wouldn’t have such bands and then the world would be denied this genre changing music because of some dumb ass ordinance. Do your city a favor and kill the ordinance, Yours truly a Chicago local music fan,
Eddie Martinez
2308. Brenda Sanchez | May 12, 2008 at 6:51 pm
I know a lot of people in bands and doing theater. This would be a terrible thing to do, especially since it’s a hard thing to get into in the first place. Small theaters and small music venues are a vital part of the city. The ordinance will ruin what makes Chicago so great.
2309. Ray Spears | May 12, 2008 at 6:52 pm
this is ridiculous, to say the least.
2310. Ryan Richmond | May 12, 2008 at 6:52 pm
This is insanity. I am a lawyer, and i have read this proposed bill over and over and it just doesnt make sense. If this is made into a law, the city of chicago is leaving itself wide open to a bevy of lawsuits.
2311. Free Rock City! | May 12, 2008 at 6:52 pm
If it ain’t broke, then why break it? The only foreseeable effects of this ordinance are negative, so please give Chicago a break and keep the cultural home fires burning!
2312. Haley Bedford | May 12, 2008 at 6:52 pm
Chicago is known for it’s music scene. Many great musicians and bands have grown up and performed in Chicago. Passing this law would be absolutely ridiculous. It would prevent the bands to keep playing and it would prevent the rest of the world to hear new music emerging from Chicago. Do you really want to ban something that has made Chicago so great?
2313. Jessica Very | May 12, 2008 at 6:53 pm
This is not only affecting musicians, this is negatively affecting: non-profits, self employed individuals, and any charity that has musical fundraisers to raise money for disenfranchised or underserved populations.
Attention capitalists: this is also a bad move since it will negatively affect the economy because no one will want to visit and spend money in our city.
2314. Don Eric | May 12, 2008 at 6:53 pm
This is just ABSURD!
2315. Nick Kaminsky | May 12, 2008 at 6:53 pm
Music is life. Chicago will surely die without it. Please stop this ordinance.
2316. Hyosub Kim | May 12, 2008 at 6:54 pm
Sounds like a bad idea.
2317. Robert English | May 12, 2008 at 6:54 pm
wow…I am floored just thinking about how damaging such an ordinance can be. The music community in Chicago is such a vital part to this city. not to mention how it culturally affects [in a positive manner] a sense of unity no matter who you are – big or small.
Obviously, the person(s) who presented such a ridiculous idea have no clue how “music” has played an important role historically in the building of this beautiful city.
The existence of these neighborhood venues is a must.
if you want to spin your wheels and make a statement, try helping to improve our school districts first. stop the violence amongst our youth! that’s much more of a priority…don’t you think?
2318. Audrey | May 12, 2008 at 6:54 pm
Chicago has one of the best scenes around when it comes to independent production and small-venue performances. Let’s not let politics screw that up.
2319. Lilly | May 12, 2008 at 6:56 pm
absolutely ridiculous.
laws like these have absolutely no use, other than annoy citizens and art appreciators/artists of all kinds.
2320. Emily Phillippe | May 12, 2008 at 6:56 pm
I don’t know why this ordinance would even be considered, it’s ridiculous.
2321. Joshua Jahnke | May 12, 2008 at 6:56 pm
Please don’t take away my only reason to visit Chicago.
2322. Janna | May 12, 2008 at 6:56 pm
This is absolutely ridiculous! There are so many bands that wouldn’t even get to start getting their music out there if this was passed. As a promoter myself, this would absolutely crush my company and everything I stand for. We can’t let this happen!
2323. Beth | May 12, 2008 at 6:57 pm
Putting a price tag this huge on music in Chicago should be a crime. Stop this ordinance before it is to late.
2324. Emily Sweeney | May 12, 2008 at 6:57 pm
What a sad state of affairs, long live small music!
2325. Julie Lawrenz | May 12, 2008 at 6:57 pm
This ordinance would prevent most indie acts from honing their careers in Chicago and put my beloved music venues out of business. Stop this insanity and put the blame for E2 where it belonged.
2326. Bill Molloy | May 12, 2008 at 6:57 pm
I’ve had many chances to move out of this city but did not because I care too deeply about the music scene and all of the friendships I’ve made through it. This ordinance would destroy more than so called “illegal” venues and promoters, it would destroy a decent chunk of my life. It cannot be allowed to be passed.
Sincerely,
Bill Molloy
2327. Paul Zutten | May 12, 2008 at 6:57 pm
OPPOSED
2328. dave schechtman | May 12, 2008 at 6:57 pm
It doesn’t sound like the city thought about all the money they currently make off the Chicago music scene. A bill like this would without a doubt put Chicago’s complete artistic scene into a recession that it would probably never recover from.
I wonder if anyone has ever done a study to determine how many tax payer’s are employed by the artistic community. How many bartender’s, waitress’s, door men, promoters, advertiser’s, magazine publisher’s would loose their job’s in a scenario like this.. How much money would the city lose from liquor license’s, real estate taxes and employment taxes, and tourism.
Who knows, maybe they can just add another cigarette and gas tax and call it a day
2329. Z.D. | May 12, 2008 at 6:58 pm
yet another retarded move to stop happiness,
don’t do it.
2330. Jodi Brown | May 12, 2008 at 6:58 pm
I, too, am against this ordinance.
Thanks for doing this, Theresa, Michael & Michael.
2331. Kevin Paulus | May 12, 2008 at 6:58 pm
There is one reason I moved to this city, and that is the music culture that seemingly eclipses every other city I’ve visited, domestic and overseas. The large clubs are generally filled with the same tedious and adolescent groups that can be seen in bloated Ticketmaster arenas like First Midwest Bank Amphitheatre, but it’s the small nuggets–Empty Bottle, Schuba’s, Logan Square Auditorium, Subterranean, Hideout, and countless others–that makes Chicago a place worth living.
I take pride in being a part of the current wave migrating from the suburbs to the city, but it seems the people in charge are hell-bent on reversing the tide. The City Council Committee should be prostrate with thankfulness that obscene sales taxes alone haven’t discouraged people from joining the urban populace; this ordinance, if it passes, will be the death knell for the boom to live in Chicago. If you’re gunning for a population flight from the city like it’s 1968, making this ordinance into law is step one.
2332. Catherine Jones | May 12, 2008 at 6:58 pm
As a struggling artist myself, I see this as an end to my career in Chicago. if this passes, I will move away immediately and never look back and I’m sure many other artists as well as audience members will do the same.
Think twice, Chicago, before going from being a cultural hotspot to being a creative person’s nightmare
2333. KATIE | May 12, 2008 at 6:58 pm
I OBJECT!!!!!!!! This is not cool. There are plenty of good bands that are not even signed yet and I’m sure that they rock and they should get a chance to play their little musical hearts out!
-KATIE!
2334. Z.D. | May 12, 2008 at 6:58 pm
yet another retarded move to stop happiness,
this ordinance shouldn’t go through.
2335. kymm! chavers | May 12, 2008 at 6:58 pm
you don’t need to be any sort of an artist, or even appreciate the arts to see why this is such a painful idea for both the city AND its many faithful residents. not to mention the thousands upon thousands that migrate into this magnificent town every day just to experience what these ridiculous politicians are threatening.
why would someone want to kill the greatest city in the world?! because that would surely do it…
DISGUSTING.
2336. Brian | May 12, 2008 at 6:58 pm
man without music we are nothing and that’s a fact
2337. Nick J | May 12, 2008 at 6:59 pm
When I first heard this I thought this was a joke. But of course it is not. Who other than politicians would want this bill to pass? It would be a travesty if this bill passes. This would leave such a void in the chicago music and theater scene. This isn’t a bill that only affects chicago, but art as a whole. This is just a way for the big promoters to have a monopoly over the city art scene and if this passes I will never see a broadway in chicago play again.
2338. Mike Pollard | May 12, 2008 at 6:59 pm
if this ordinance passes, the chicago music scene will die. there will be no growth and expansion. the ‘underground’ (as they call it) isnt meant to make money but it is an open space for ideas and creativity to flow.
2339. Paul | May 12, 2008 at 6:59 pm
For once this is an issue that is bad both economically and culturally. I hope this does not pass.
2340. Diana | May 12, 2008 at 7:00 pm
This ordinance is ridiculous. I live in the chicago suburbs and a lot of my favorite smaller bands play in small places in chicago, if this ordinance passes a good portion of the bands I love are going to skip over chicago.
2341. James Barber | May 12, 2008 at 7:00 pm
the E2 disaster happened on part of aggressive actions of the security guards. I also feel that night clubs like E2 do not reflect on the true spirit of chicago that kind of stuff goes to LA or some other city
2342. N. Pellegrino | May 12, 2008 at 7:01 pm
If you’d like to kill the heartbeat of Chicago culture and the growth of neighborhood communities, go ahead, pass this ordinance. If you’d like to reduce commerce, small business growth, and the number of artist residents in this city, please pass this ordinance. If you’d like to begin the demise of arts in education in Chicago and after school arts programming, pass this ordinance. The work of artists and musicians in Chicago effects the communities they are a part of on whole. Passing this ordinance will make it difficult for artists to work in Chicago, making it less appealing to work in Chicago, meaning art in Chicago. Aside from being an overtly destructive force on the artistic community, whether you realize it or not, this ordinance will inadvertently depress our City’s commerce (and revenue) even further. Chicago’s accessibility– the opportunity this city affords small theatres and venues– is what makes it more appealing than New York or LA. The chance to be able to experiment, create and explore without a Broadway budget is what make Chicago appealing to artists. The support of the city and the community at large makes Chicago appealing to artists. Do not kill that by passing this ordinance, I implore you. Do not passive aggressively relocate Chicago artists to the suburbs and the coasts.
2343. Marie Hahn | May 12, 2008 at 7:01 pm
This is ridiculous. How are small bands supposed to get a start with such prohibitive costs? This doesn’t keep anybody safe from anything.
2344. curtis | May 12, 2008 at 7:01 pm
chicago is a city founded on music and entertainment, don’t take it away.
2345. Hollis Wood | May 12, 2008 at 7:01 pm
This stupidity will only diminish the life and diversity of cultural life in Chicago- It will not have whatever result the city is hoping for. When something similar was tried in NY, the people just ignored it as being too stupid to pay attention to, and it finally went away.
2346. Nathan Bakkum | May 12, 2008 at 7:01 pm
This ordinance will seriously damage Chicago’s music scene, a scene which is internationally praised for its staunchly independent spirit, diversity, and high musical standards. Not only does the ordinance cripple many local venues and musicians, it also stands to detrimentally impact the city’s international profile as a cultural standard-bearer. Please keep independent music alive in the city by rejecting this proposal.
2347. amanda | May 12, 2008 at 7:01 pm
damn the man! save the empire!
(empire = chicago indie music scene)
2348. Chris Fair | May 12, 2008 at 7:01 pm
Please do not do this…This is like crushing a catapillar while its still in its cacoon. The catipillar represents many different subcultures such as underground music, jazz, rock, stand up comedy, improv, drama and many other catipillars what will blossom into beautiful American culture…but not if you pass this evil money grubbing bill…good day
2349. Victoria | May 12, 2008 at 7:01 pm
Tsk, tsk! We really have the duty to keep Chicago culture alive. We already have our neighborhoods being overrun by chain stores and too-expensive boutiques. Let’s keep some diversity going around here.
2350. Brett Morrison | May 12, 2008 at 7:01 pm
Add me to the list. STOP this ordinance!!!!!
2351. Bryan Cohen | May 12, 2008 at 7:01 pm
This is a horrible thing. I hope that our voices are heard.
2352. Kati | May 12, 2008 at 7:02 pm
Don’t ruin Chicago art!!!
2353. jason carroll | May 12, 2008 at 7:02 pm
you have got to be kidding! Is not like you dont steal enough money from already.
2354. ian | May 12, 2008 at 7:02 pm
this is a ridicuous idea. it has the potential to eliminate the vibrant performing arts scene that is so much of what makes chicago so wonderful.
2355. sarah | May 12, 2008 at 7:02 pm
The city that works. What a joke! Take away our music and we are just a junky city in a terrible climate with a broke ass train.
2356. Elizabeth Georges | May 12, 2008 at 7:02 pm
This is crap!
2357. Richard Lyon | May 12, 2008 at 7:03 pm
This ordinance is absolutely disgusting. That is all I have to say about it.
2358. Kevin Brown | May 12, 2008 at 7:03 pm
When my best friend and I are not at the Double Door, Schubas, Martyr’s, Old Town School of Folk Music, Beat Kitchen etc etc we are reminiscing about all of the great shows seen at these venues. The small venues for concerts are the best part of the chicago concert scene, and this ordinance is simply ridiculous. I will sign whatever document will help prevent this shortsighted ordinance from going through. Sure, improve safety, but don’t use safety as a front to advance another agenda.
Where are great bands-to-be going to get their following and fall in love with the great music fans of Chicago? Certainly not at the United Center.
We can’t let our great clubs go the way of Lounge Ax!!!
2359. Brian | May 12, 2008 at 7:03 pm
Shameful… vote NO on this affront to the arts in Chicago
2360. Nilina | May 12, 2008 at 7:03 pm
I hope this DOES NOT go through
2361. Steve B | May 12, 2008 at 7:03 pm
I can’t imagine a law more stifling to the working musician than this one. This city is so diverse in it’s music scenes and right now it seems that our politicians are trying to destroy those.
There is no way that our local working musicians, or for that matter, our local small-time promoters can survive and thrive with this law in place.
Do not pass this law. It will destroy Chicago’s creative scene, and will leave us as a city empty.
2362. Nicole | May 12, 2008 at 7:04 pm
Ridiculous
2363. matthew arkell | May 12, 2008 at 7:04 pm
DON’T STOP DA FUNK
2364. Lucas Guariglia | May 12, 2008 at 7:05 pm
An ordinance like this simply shows the shallow minds of those officials behind the scenes in Chicago that care nothing for the creative minds and bodies in this town. You seem to be more focused on the money you can rake in at other peoples expense. It is disgusting that you would press down on artists that have a hard enough time making ends meet doing what they love. The higher powers sadden me once again. Cheers to your minds that will never be anything more.
2365. Adam Stojentin | May 12, 2008 at 7:05 pm
This ordinance will only hinder if not kill the scene all together. Please let the “underground” music live on. Thanks.
2366. Cindy Worthington | May 12, 2008 at 7:06 pm
this is so wrong.
2367. Brian | May 12, 2008 at 7:06 pm
not a good idea
2368. L.A.S. | May 12, 2008 at 7:06 pm
Completely ridiculous, what will they think of next. Completely against this.
2369. Jason M | May 12, 2008 at 7:07 pm
No thank you.
2370. Mel Barnes | May 12, 2008 at 7:08 pm
Please do not do something that would harm the entire Chicago music scene. Step back and realize you are affecting a lot of people and making if virtually impossible for the amazing venue owner and event promoters to continue the wonderful job they are doing with getting so many amazing bands/artists to the area for us to see!
2371. Sonya H. | May 12, 2008 at 7:08 pm
Stop the promoter’s ordinance. Passing this ordinance will ruin Chicago’s standing as a cultural hot spot.
2372. kara | May 12, 2008 at 7:08 pm
this is absurd. I’ve spent many years supporting the music scene here and going to local concerts and if this gets passed that is just going to be gone completely. this ordinance is a ridiculous idea and it shouldn’t be passed.
2373. John Kannenberg | May 12, 2008 at 7:08 pm
I oppose the Promoter’s Ordinance.
2374. Staci | May 12, 2008 at 7:09 pm
This city is amazing for music — don’t quiet it!
2375. Jonathan Hill | May 12, 2008 at 7:09 pm
the main reason I moved to this city was for more musical opportunity. I would hate to see that shrink to the size of the small town I came from.
2376. Allison | May 12, 2008 at 7:09 pm
I can’t imagine why Chicago would want to kill such a thriving industry that makes the city unique. I strongly oppose this ordinance and hope that the aldermen do the same.
2377. Carrie Dahlby | May 12, 2008 at 7:10 pm
Do not pass.
2378. Brendan Deal | May 12, 2008 at 7:10 pm
Vote NO on this ordinance.
2379. Mary Jones | May 12, 2008 at 7:10 pm
This ordinance only drives the vibrant and thriving community of performers and promoters to cities other than Chicago. Both Chicago-based artists and every musician I know who tours through Chicago counts this city as a favorite place to play. As a cultural city, we keep talent coming into the city by having small and medium-sized venues and independent promoters to foster emerging talent.
2380. Pierce Burke | May 12, 2008 at 7:11 pm
As a musician, Chicago is without a doubt the best place to live and grow and play shows. I dont understand what the benefits would be of passing this ordinance. This is something that would destroy the city and what it’s known for, and completely alter the life of a Chicagoan.
This can’t happen. So many great artists have come from here, and so many more are just waiting to happen; depending on those small venues which are being targeted.
2381. Matt Davis | May 12, 2008 at 7:11 pm
i travel to the city frequently for many of the events that would be severely impacted by this ordinance. it would also be a huge factor dissuading me from moving to the city in the future.
STOP THIS.
2382. Kristen McManus | May 12, 2008 at 7:11 pm
The creativity and passion of small music and theatre venues are the soul of Chicago’s unique cultural scene. Taking them away would destroy what makes this city so special.
2383. Ray Donato | May 12, 2008 at 7:11 pm
This ordinance is completely ridiculous and probably not constitutional either. another waste of chicago taxpayer’s money. it’s bad enough you can barely ride a bike in this city without being killed and the gun violence is out of control and this is what they are doing with their time and money? i guess cause chicago has lollapalooza they think they can just screw over the little guy just like they destroyed the street musician culture that made chicago famous for blues. what is it with the culture cleansing that seems to go on throughout the country these days? next they sell the naming rights to the city itself. much more of this crap and i’ll be moving out.
2384. Julie Anderson | May 12, 2008 at 7:12 pm
Please add my name to the list.
2385. Kevin | May 12, 2008 at 7:12 pm
Why do these people have the positions they have in a city they clearly know nothing about?! This needs to stop now!
2386. Dave Tainer | May 12, 2008 at 7:12 pm
Part of the reason that Chicago is the Big City Draw that it is for young people who eventually relocate there and PAY TAXES there, is that there is something to do after a long day of hard work. The City of Big Shoulders needs to shrug them and make sure that the many talented people in the arts are allowed to express themselves and leave a legacy that others will follow. If this is not done, you can be assured that other cities will receive all these talents very happily.
2387. Hope Bertram | May 12, 2008 at 7:12 pm
I have a few concern about this ordinance:
1. I have a small business and host 2 – 3 events per month. Some of the events don’t even bring in $500, which would mean I’ll either have to stop hosting these events, or loose money. The purpose of these events are building awareness for my other events — so this will cut into my business overall.
2. I have tired to get general liablity insurance and was told by one broker that, “I was not worth his time” Another broker tried to get me a policy, but the lnsurance companies were not interested in writing the policy — This makes me scared for all the other small promoters who won’t be able to get insurance.
2388. Chantal Sudbrack | May 12, 2008 at 7:13 pm
I agree small venues is the best part of Chicago’s music scene. It is really what keeps me here. Please do not pass this ordinance!
2389. Steve Chavez | May 12, 2008 at 7:13 pm
Chicago is known for there awesome music scene, I hope this doesn’t pass! Chicago would be so boring with out it, to deprive musicians of all the hard work and good shows that give to this city would be terrible!!!
2390. Amber | May 12, 2008 at 7:13 pm
This ordinance would kill creativity in our city.
2391. Zack Zacek | May 12, 2008 at 7:13 pm
Now that I’ll be heading to college and hopefully getting my parents old home I hope to be doing a lot more in the music community and this is a huge set back. It’s hard for small time music acts who just want to get started to play shows and it’s hard for small venues to accommodate them. It’s a shame and this will just make everything worse. This will ruin our music scene, we should be looking to strengthen it.
2392. Bobby | May 12, 2008 at 7:14 pm
this is misguided and holds liability in greater respect than the creation of art.
2393. Matt Lilly | May 12, 2008 at 7:14 pm
Chicago’s government should be looking for ways to foster the city’s independent music scene, not stifle it. The proposed legislation is completely unnecessary and unfairly singles out clubs which already abide by the adequate rules already in place. It will do nothing except hamper the live music scene in the city limits. I urge all Chicago alderman to vote NO on this matter.
2394. Danny Higgins | May 12, 2008 at 7:16 pm
As a musician and music fan who has attended and/or played at almost every one of these venues, I am firmly opposed to this ordinance. Chicago is better than this.
2395. Cole Meyers | May 12, 2008 at 7:16 pm
I know people in an around Chicago, family and friends who are very involved with underground entertainment; both the music movements and underground comedy. Why anyone would ever feel it necessary to rob the city of a gem like it’s culture is beyond me, but either way it’s wrong.
2396. Chris Stelloh | May 12, 2008 at 7:16 pm
Who wants this to happen? Large venues? This promoters ordinance is ludicrous. Keep Chicago vibrant and strike this ordinance down.
2397. Roger Eimer | May 12, 2008 at 7:16 pm
Musicians have it hard enough to show their talent. Don’t kill the little guy.
2398. Rebecca McKown | May 12, 2008 at 7:16 pm
This is terrible, Chicago is a place of entertainment, if this is passed think about all the young artists that will be left behind because they are under 21!! I am COMPLETELY against this.
Let Chicago be.
2399. Aubrey | May 12, 2008 at 7:16 pm
Destroying prominent staples as such will only further ruin what little history this city still has in tact. The music and theatrical scene of Chicago is one that has always been highly esteemed and by closing down these establishments, the city’s rich history will diminish with it.
2400. Alex Giroux | May 12, 2008 at 7:17 pm
By doing this, you will be destroying the Chicago music scene as well as the culture of Chicago. Please don’t do this! We’re begging you!
Alex
2401. Jamie Hersh | May 12, 2008 at 7:17 pm
This is horrible! We need to keep what makes Chicago, Chicago!
You’ve got my support! Stop the Ordinance!
2402. Bill Liggett | May 12, 2008 at 7:17 pm
Stop this ordinance. Do not allow censorship in our Arts community on this level. Our culture depends upon accessibility for ALL artists especially those without the means of paying money they will never be able to gather to get their art heard. This will eventually destroy Chicagos Hope of a meaningfull arts community!!!!
2403. Melissa Shewfelt | May 12, 2008 at 7:17 pm
This is horrible. If this becomes a law many local Chicago bands will suffer as well as the venues they play at, and the Chicago music scene with plummet.
2404. Mark Winston | May 12, 2008 at 7:17 pm
This ordinance will make it devastatingly more difficult for independent promoters, musicians, theater company’s and artists to perform and host events. The city does not need these restrictions, as they will only hurt the small independent venues and artists that make cultural life in this city interesting, diverse and vibrant. No to this ordinance!
2405. Aaron | May 12, 2008 at 7:17 pm
This would do terrible things to bands and venues trying to survive on low budgets, this is truly flawed and should most definitely be revised if passed if it is truly in place to keep another E2 from occurring.
2406. MDCarson | May 12, 2008 at 7:17 pm
No. No. No.
STOP THE ORDINANCE, NOW!!!
2407. Ceri W | May 12, 2008 at 7:18 pm
This is terrible, please do not pass this ordinance. It will be a terrible loss for the music scene if it is.
2408. Lisa Zarov | May 12, 2008 at 7:18 pm
I and my band have been part of a thriving music scene in Chicago for several years – there is no city on earth like Chicago for local bands – we support each other, love our fans and LOVE LOVE LOVE to play music. We are not wealthy. We book our own shows. We make practically no money when we play but we don’t care. The Chicago scene is about sharing – sharing music, sharing culture, sharing joy and creativity. It is not about profit on the scale that is being proposed right now. Sure club owners can make their money on tickets and drinks – how else can they pay their bills? But that’s the ONLY profit we should be talking about here.
What is being proposed will singlehandedly SHUT DOWN the Chicago local music scene. It will SHUT DOWN the hearts and souls of local musicians and local music fans – where will we play, where will we share? Music brings people joy. Please do not let this ordinance pass!!!!!!!!
2409. T Parker | May 12, 2008 at 7:18 pm
Ignorant and highly unnecessary. C’mon Chicago, don’t you have bigger fish to fry?
2410. L.S. Greenfield | May 12, 2008 at 7:19 pm
Count me in on this one….
2411. Ernest Isaac | May 12, 2008 at 7:19 pm
I think this an out right attack on our rights as AMERICANS!!!! I have had the opportunity to play in Chicago many times with an apperance at The Kinston Mines!!!! This new ordinance would have prevented me from develping as an artist forfeited my chances of ever playing this great city. I think if it is passed it will kill the blood stream of local talent that is developing into future stars!!!!
Ernest Isaac
The Heroine
2412. Sammy | May 12, 2008 at 7:20 pm
This is ridiculous! I’ve recently gotten into promotion and I want to do it for a long time, I love it! How can they take it away from me, from us! I love Chicago and I want to stay in Chicago forever because of it’s music scene.
Lets stop this!
2413. Michelle | May 12, 2008 at 7:20 pm
I cant believe this is an issue. The People of Chicago have a right to perform music in these thriving industruy. Many great bands that have played in these areas wouldn’t be here today if it wasn’t for these places. Chicago will just be an ordinary town if you put this ‘plan’ in motion. In my opinon this will LOSE the city money from the lack of the music scene. This is ridiculous.
2414. Erika Keating | May 12, 2008 at 7:20 pm
This is absurd! Please add my name to the list.
2415. John Fiebke | May 12, 2008 at 7:20 pm
The future of this city is in its youth and culture. A quick way to end any influence that Chicago has on the national stage is to drive these people away. We are here for the culture and can leave to find it elsewhere, taking our vibrancy and our future tax dollars with us. If there is no small-venue live music scene in this city, I’m leaving my high-tax paying advertising job for another in a city that respects art and culture.
2416. beckalina | May 12, 2008 at 7:21 pm
oh pleaz…..it just keep s on getting more and more ridiculous. What next?
2417. Scott Wolniak | May 12, 2008 at 7:21 pm
bad idea
2418. Amber Creger | May 12, 2008 at 7:21 pm
This city ordinance would be devastating to local economy both finacially and culturally. Please add my name.
2419. amber | May 12, 2008 at 7:21 pm
i dont live in chicago. but i know of bands that got their start there, and many bands who hope to get started here. and while people are encouraged to be creative, isnt it completely ironic that they would take away something tha sparks up creativity, as well as something that inspires people?
this is a major set back for alot of people that wanted to get envolved in the music community.
2420. Cully Johnston | May 12, 2008 at 7:22 pm
As a Chicago musician who has played many of these glorious venues that would be shut down by this ordinance, I have to say — stop the madness! If this goes through, I will certainly be moving to a different city that welcomes independent music and doesn’t shut down the venues where it can flourish.
2421. Todd Bailey | May 12, 2008 at 7:22 pm
As someone who came to Chicago 7 years ago because of the rich underground scene — and has stayed here because of it — I can say with no exaggeration that without a powerful subculture Chicago would seriously lose its draw as the “jewel of the Midwest” — think about how many people from the Great Lakes region move here as opposed to Cleveland or Minneapolis, and the difference between Chicago and those cities in the eyes of the national and even international community. It’s not because of the pizza.
2422. Brandon Holtrup | May 12, 2008 at 7:22 pm
This will ruin the musical vibrance of Chicago
2423. Bahhaj | May 12, 2008 at 7:22 pm
Do not let them pass this ordinance.
2424. Kathleen Ruzak | May 12, 2008 at 7:23 pm
This has got to stop. The government is getting way too involved. What’s the point of this? It’s not right. Please do not approve the ordinance and keep Chicago the great city that it is. We are known for the culture this city brings to the world. Don’t ruin it.
Thank you.
2425. Sara Dickie | May 12, 2008 at 7:23 pm
This is an obnoxious ordinance. DO NOT PASS this ordinance.
2426. Carry | May 12, 2008 at 7:23 pm
Stop the Promoter’s Ordinance!!!
2427. Jamie Miller | May 12, 2008 at 7:23 pm
I believe this is a very bad decision and will not only effect the music industry but taxes, nightlife and the economy. This is a horrible idea and I advise anyone in congress smart enough to recognize this problem, to hault it from going any further. Who ever came up with this idea is an ignorant jerk who cant figure out how musicians can become famous just for getting to play a local big name venue. And because I am in a band as well, I have the urge, and satisfaction, in commenting and asking, “Fuck You! I doubt you’ve ever planned an event, probably never wrote a song or had a band so now my question is why should you make this law? ” Stop making more problems when there isn’t as many problems to lead up to this horrible solution.I’d sit here and write more but my finals are tomorrow.
2428. Katy Sharp | May 12, 2008 at 7:24 pm
We are all meeting outside of City Hall at 9AM, an hour before the voting….please join us…save our beloved city…
2429. Sabah Khan | May 12, 2008 at 7:24 pm
If this bill passes, forget about being “The Second City”. Without the vibrancy of the already underfunded arts, you’d be lucky to be in the top ten.
2430. Ross | May 12, 2008 at 7:24 pm
stop the promoter’s ordinance!
2431. Will Line | May 12, 2008 at 7:24 pm
This ordinance is weak and should be destroyed.
2432. Karrie | May 12, 2008 at 7:25 pm
This ordinance will kill Chicago’s individual identity for a unique city. One thing that difines Chicago is the music scene. This is a plan for disaster.
2433. Philip Jolliffe | May 12, 2008 at 7:25 pm
The one thing that this city does have going for it is the wide array of arts that we can choose from on any given day. There are other ways that the city can raise their money ie sales tax, cta, parking meters, illegal towing, walking on the wrong side of the street. But please let us have something to enjoy!
2434. Dan Clifford | May 12, 2008 at 7:25 pm
Super lame. Should not be happening.
2435. Mario Salazar | May 12, 2008 at 7:26 pm
This is unbelievable. What will they think of next?
It’s a terrible idea at best. Who does it really benefit?
Is stepping on the little guy really making concerts and entertainment that much safer? And is it going to help make Chicago the great music city many of us are trying to do in some shape or form?
C’mon…! There HAS to be someone with just a hint of common sense to see this is NOT a good thing.
Please don’t kill our scene.
Mario Salazar
Director/Publisher
http://www.chicagosrock.com
2436. Samuel Lapso | May 12, 2008 at 7:26 pm
I will get violent if i dont see my local boys in the big city and i mean really violent
2437. Justin Clark | May 12, 2008 at 7:26 pm
Music is good.
2438. Alex Turner | May 12, 2008 at 7:26 pm
I myself have been a part of the chicago music scene and promoting, booking shows, and helping bands out. Although I no longer book concerts anymore I am still very involved in what goes on with the chicago music scene. If this ordinance is passed, it will definitely shut down the local promoters and rid the chicago scene of very many talented local acts. Passing this ordinance will get rid of the small bands in chicago which were the ones who once started what eventually became the great chicago music scene as it is today. If you pass this ordiannce you are destructing the rich music culture of chicago. And if you do that, you lower the city’s talent and richness.
2439. Colby Beck | May 12, 2008 at 7:26 pm
I don’t need no law harshin’ my mellow, man.
2440. Eric Porges | May 12, 2008 at 7:26 pm
I strongly oppose this.
Destroying small venues hardly seems like something a “world class city” would do. Unless they don’t view the arts and culture as an integral part of a “world class city.”
2441. michael mcsherry | May 12, 2008 at 7:26 pm
Do Not Support This Ordinanace ! i work to fund my obsession to playing, performing, buying, and supporting local music in Chicago. You will ruin a very very large number of independant businesses that contribute to this strong and currently thriving music comminity. By supporting this ordinance you will destroy the outlets that the music community of Chicago has that gives this city such a strong reputation across the world for its Thriving, Cherished, and UNITED music community!
DO NOT SUPPORT THIS ORDINANCE !
2442. Blythe | May 12, 2008 at 7:27 pm
Write to your Alderman! Here’s a sample letter!
Dear Alderman,
I’m writing to ask you to vote no on the city’s upcoming “Event Promoters” ordinance.
Chicago is a city with a rich and unique musical heritage; it is also a cosmopolitan, up-and-coming city that would like to improve its international profile. How can we possibly hope to uphold those traditions and meet these goals without a vibrant music scene? And how can we support such a scene when we’re suppressing the very small clubs and venues where musicians develop and grow into mature artists?
As a parent and a homeowner, I can understand the need to regulate and control live performance spaces; however, this ordinance goes too far. I’m hoping you’ll agree with me and vote no on the “Event Promoters” ordinance.
Thank you for your time!
2443. Britton Wetherald | May 12, 2008 at 7:27 pm
This Proposal is not serving the community, it serves those with money and serves to destroy a culture that is unique to chicago. If this gets passed there is no reason for any musician or promoter to stay in this city
2444. Katie | May 12, 2008 at 7:27 pm
Their Harmless
2445. Janet Sayre | May 12, 2008 at 7:27 pm
I oppose the promoter’s ordinance in its current form.
2446. jaimie branch | May 12, 2008 at 7:27 pm
Chicago is respected internationally as a mecca for free jazz. The way that the music is supported in Chicago is through the many musicians and fans of the music who feel that they should volunteer their time to organize concerts, bring in international and national artists, and make sure that the art form is preserved and heard.
This ordinance could kill Chicago’s world class music scene.
2447. Camry | May 12, 2008 at 7:28 pm
The one and only reason I travel to Chicago is to go to shows. Clearly no one is thinking about how this would negatively affect the town’s economy since MANY people only visit for this reason. DO NOT allow this ordinance to pass!
2448. Chontelle | May 12, 2008 at 7:28 pm
I don’t live in Chicago, but this is really wrong.
2449. laura c | May 12, 2008 at 7:28 pm
I’m not from Chicgao, but what happens to the Chicago music scene will influence the live music scene all over the country. I never want to see something like this happen anywhere.
2450. Stephanie JOhnson | May 12, 2008 at 7:28 pm
I grew up in Chicago, and counting down until I can move back. A large part of what I love is the varied and thriving cultural scene, and this measure would severely hamper, if not utterly destroy that. Please, please, please do not pass this into law! Doing so would deprive the city, and the world, of so much!
2451. Pat Grumley | May 12, 2008 at 7:28 pm
Please vote no.
2452. Roger Liew | May 12, 2008 at 7:28 pm
Please don’t pass this ordinance. The independent arts scene is a BIG reason for why we put up with high taxes associated with living in Chicago.
2453. Gabby Schnieders | May 12, 2008 at 7:28 pm
ridiculous.
2454. Nora Julian | May 12, 2008 at 7:29 pm
Please do not support this ordinance. Chicago is known for its music and its theater, not only for the big shows and concerts, but for the small theaters and the local bands. Please do not take away this important part of our city.
2455. Beth Corlett | May 12, 2008 at 7:29 pm
This is the most ludicrous thing I’ve heard in a while, can’t even believe people must take time to comment against this as it should be a “no-brainer”
2456. Jennifer Wheeler | May 12, 2008 at 7:29 pm
I drive down once or twice a week to the city clubs to see live music and if the council approves this, they will damage the blues music scene and put blues artists out of business. This city is so rich in music culture. People from all over the world come here to see blues and other music and this ordinance will put an end to so many festivals and other music gatherings. They will lose lots of tourist dollars. There has to be another way to make money without ruiining this city’s richest cultural treasure which is music
2457. ryan swingle | May 12, 2008 at 7:29 pm
SAVE CHICAGO ARTS!
2458. Forgen Raden | May 12, 2008 at 7:30 pm
If chicago passes this i will boycott all chicago endevers ill move to china
2459. Tristan Barnett | May 12, 2008 at 7:31 pm
Are cabaret cards next?
2460. Mike McKay | May 12, 2008 at 7:31 pm
chicago without its music? i mean c’mon seriously. lets get rid of the the chicago style hot dog next. as those before me have said, not a good idea people
2461. Nick Vatterott | May 12, 2008 at 7:31 pm
It seems this ordinance would next to eliminated any resonably priced, to free comedy show in town. It would eliminate struggling comedy theaters who barely break even every month. Chicago would be left with nothing but pricey 20 dollar plus shows with a required two drink minimum. I hear people say “I’ve always wanted to go to an open mike and and try doing stand-up just once”. No bar is going to pay the rediculcouis permits and insurance to hold free open mikes. If this passes, there would be no open-mikes, there would be no where in the city of Chicago to give a shot at trying stand-up comedy. If there are no open mikes for comics to develop their act, there is no reason for any stand-up comedian to stay in Chicago. Why do I feel like Im in the sequel to Footloose. Where’s Kevin Bacon when you need him.
2462. Kelly Maciolek | May 12, 2008 at 7:31 pm
This is ridiculous!
2463. Jamie Fletcher | May 12, 2008 at 7:31 pm
no more holidaze
2464. Nadia Moscardini | May 12, 2008 at 7:32 pm
This is basically the worst thing that could happen to Chicago. Why shut down the block parties, small venues, and awesome garage concerts that make me actually WANT to stay in Chicago? They can’t do this to us.
Why am I only hearing about this now? Shouldn’t someone be organizing a march or something?! THIS IS MAJOR.
2465. Joe Welter | May 12, 2008 at 7:33 pm
I am not completely clear on whether or not this applies to bars that have bands play, but regardless, this ordinance is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard of. The fact that is affects non-profit organizations makes me sick. Additionally, the prospect of losing such fantastic venues just because they can’t or won’t pay money to line the city’s coffers repulses me. I can’t believe that city officials, who in all likelihood don’t even partake in the local music/arts scene, are taking it upon themselves to impose these stringent standards on something as harmless as the performing arts. I sincerely hope that this will not be enacted as a law.
2466. Derek Berube | May 12, 2008 at 7:33 pm
Please do not support this ordinance.
2467. Carter Lashley | May 12, 2008 at 7:33 pm
Chicago’s music scene is one of the only reasons I still live here. If this passes, Im outta here.
Peace out chicago! At least I’ll have memories of a rad city jam packed with great bands playing small shows
2468. ann de cruz | May 12, 2008 at 7:33 pm
the music community in chicago sets us apart from other cities. bands and fans from all over the world have mentioned this observation to me personally. why would we fix this situation that is not only not broken, but also brings people to our city???
2469. Jim O'Connell | May 12, 2008 at 7:34 pm
save chicago. shows are what keeps me happy and alive. the same goes for thousands of kids. please save our scene.
2470. kelly | May 12, 2008 at 7:34 pm
This can’t happen!
2471. Christopher Chesser | May 12, 2008 at 7:34 pm
As a soon to be lawyer and an avid music fan and Chicago resident, I just wanted to express my disapproval for such a poorly drafted, overly burdensome law with such a detrimental effect on the Chicago music scene.
Even worse than the law itself (which I agree with in spirit), however, is the manner in which it has been rushed to a vote without thought for the dramatic consequences it is sure to have on the music scene of our beloved city.
Please, let’s think before we act.
Sincerely,
Christopher Chesser
2472. Kat O'Connor | May 12, 2008 at 7:34 pm
Most of Chicago’s theatre scene is comprised of small theatre companies that barely break even by the end of the run. They simply cannot afford another couple hundred or couple thousand dollars tacked on to their expense list. This is a good way to put almost all of the Chicago theatre scene out of business.
2473. mike palmer | May 12, 2008 at 7:35 pm
NO!
2474. Matt Weber | May 12, 2008 at 7:35 pm
DO NOT WANT
2475. Curt Smith | May 12, 2008 at 7:35 pm
Add me to the list. This is utterly ridiculous.
2476. Brittany | May 12, 2008 at 7:35 pm
Please don’t eliminate the Chicago music scene. We have come way to far for politicians to set us back now. Thank you for listening and doing your part to protect one of the few good things we have left in this world, music.
2477. Michael Johnson | May 12, 2008 at 7:35 pm
I am whole heartedly against this resolution and will not support any politician that approves it.
2478. Steven Weiss | May 12, 2008 at 7:35 pm
Does this apply to Christian and Gospel acts as well? If they pass this ordinance I am moving to Salt Lake City where politicians are apparently less uppity and more hypocritical. I blame the smokers, with their cigarette butts on the street and blowing their smoke in the air. Why not fine them for littering and pollution. Leave us music lovers alone.
2479. adam landman | May 12, 2008 at 7:35 pm
the music scene is one of the reasons (if not THE reason) i live in chicago. with this and all the other b.s. going on in this city you are really making me want to move.
2480. AJ | May 12, 2008 at 7:36 pm
What? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
2481. Ellen | May 12, 2008 at 7:36 pm
The local music scene in Chicago is amazing. It’s how I met some of the most important people in my life and it’s what our weekends usually revolve around. This can’t happen. Who even thought of this?
2482. Lindsey Wilcox | May 12, 2008 at 7:36 pm
What is the point? Music is a huge part of life, why stop it?
2483. Ashley Metz | May 12, 2008 at 7:36 pm
Chicago is an important stop on tours through America. A vibrant creative culture, conducive to experimental and new artists, draws attention and respect from the world and stimulates a diverse environment at home. Where would we be without Manhattan’s dirty jazz clubs, or the cafe’s of Paris that made Hemingway drunk? The undiscovered, the small, the starving and the bold have the freedom to innovate, create and progress. Small venues that provide a stepping stone from the local club to the world indie music scene, the big bloggers’ readership, what have you… these are the freedom of speech of the music world. Chicago’s second to NYC in many people’s eyes. If these venues disappear, our place there will be secured in the realm of music.
2484. Charles Schultz | May 12, 2008 at 7:37 pm
Please do not let this ordinance pass! Chicago’s music and theatre community will suffer greatly.
2485. Linda Burdett | May 12, 2008 at 7:38 pm
Sponaneity, energy, excitement and fun– these are what makes a city vibrant. This ordinance will serve to kill these off. Who ever had the idea that we should have our artists pay to play, when we should be supporting THEM. The city should be encouraging its musicians and other artists.
2486. Collin Cordery | May 12, 2008 at 7:38 pm
This is hogwash. VETO.
2487. Jiba Anderson | May 12, 2008 at 7:38 pm
The ordinance is ridiculous. Chicago is a music town and we need to keep it that way.
2488. john obrien | May 12, 2008 at 7:39 pm
Isn’t it a bit pathetic- given what jazz, blues and pop music have meant to the city and its history- that we are even discussing this, Wake up City Council and do your job. Protect this city and its culture for posterity.
2489. Ben Rubenstein | May 12, 2008 at 7:39 pm
This is a misguided response to the E2 nightclub tragedy that will do nothing but negatively impact what has been a thriving and respected cultural scene. For a city that constantly prides itself on being “world-class,” it would be a major step backward.
2490. michael mcsherry | May 12, 2008 at 7:39 pm
Do Not Support This Ordinance ! I work to fund my obsession to playing, performing, buying, and supporting Independent music in Chicago! You will ruin many many independent businesses, musicians, clubs, organazations, and lives of so many performing artists by supporting this ordinance. You what is viewed across the United States and the world views as one of the most Richest and Monolithic Independent music communities !
DO NOT SUPPORT THIS ORDINANCE ! PERIOD !
2491. Bob DeGraff | May 12, 2008 at 7:39 pm
This should be a good thing for suburban bars, venues, and economies as even more artists and patrons flee the city. As if the expensive parking and sales taxes weren’t reason enough to avoid Chicago.
2492. William Jones | May 12, 2008 at 7:39 pm
I agree that this ordinance, as written, would have an onerous effect on artists and performers without adding significantly to safety in most mainstream applications. Please reconsider.
2493. Shelly Voss | May 12, 2008 at 7:39 pm
This is just a money grabbing bit corporate, big government ploy. It has to be stopped!
2494. Jeff Krause | May 12, 2008 at 7:39 pm
As a registered voter in cook county and as the friend of many other registered voters in cook county, i find it appalling that my local government would try to undermine and destroy the creative voices given to thousands of chicagoland area musicians in the first amendment of the constitution. the fact that this law essentially strips the average musician and promoter of booking a concert in which free expression and ideas are exchanged disgusts me more than anything ive heard in recent local legislation. By passing this law you would deny thousands of people the right to express them selves in a certain way, local musicians wouldnt be able to get gigs, more kids would be out on the street causing problems instead of behaving them selves in the already safe venues provided in the chicago land area. this law is unnecessary, and if anything will be wasting the tax payers dollars to enforce a law that me and many of the aldermen’s constituents find disgusting and simply un necessary. If the local cook county legislature cares about its voters at all, it will not pass this bill, and if it does, all the musicians in the chicago land area will see to it that NONE of the current aldermen involved in the passing of the bill EVER get re elected. thank you for your time,
I know you will end up doing the right thing
-Jeff Krause
2495. Kaitlyn Hamila | May 12, 2008 at 7:40 pm
The majority of successful bands have come out of the Chicago music scene and to put this ordinance into action would be destroying the basis of the music scene in a whole. Places like The Metro have shaped some of the best bands and those bands have shaped the genres.
Please realize that this would have a very negative impact on Chicago culture as well as the lives of people all over the world.
2496. michael | May 12, 2008 at 7:40 pm
oh boy,here we go again.The city of chicago trying another way of getting more money,so the crooked council can live better and get family members more jobs.It will never end.
2497. jessica garay | May 12, 2008 at 7:40 pm
Chicago’s music and art scene is what makes the city such a wonderful place ….there is nothing more important to chicago’s thriving artistic scene than it’s small venues that support it.
2498. derek migliacio | May 12, 2008 at 7:40 pm
this is crazy and wrong, local music scene will be ruined and most def stopped
this should def be voted against
if you vote for it, you will not get my vote in the next election!
2499. James Schuster | May 12, 2008 at 7:40 pm
This ordinance would be a devastating blow to a world class music and theater community.
2500. Liz | May 12, 2008 at 7:40 pm
C’mon! You have GOT to be kidding me.
If this ordinance were in effect 30 years ago, gems like Steppenwolf Theatre Company or Victory Gardens, among others, would not be in existence. And some of the best musical talent in the country would not be heard.
This rates about a deep 12 on the disgusto-meter. I want to puke all over this ordinance, and whoever had this brain fart in the first place.
I will let my Alderman, Manny Flores know about my opposition.
2501. Sabrina Wiedemeier | May 12, 2008 at 7:41 pm
This is one of the most insane things I have ever heard of. Chicago is well known for its underground music scene and something like this will make it virtually impossible to start a new band in the area. It’s hard enough to succeed in this business and find the proper funding without dealing with outragous regulations like this. Stop the insanity!!
2502. Caiti | May 12, 2008 at 7:41 pm
strongly opposed.
2503. julia kriegel | May 12, 2008 at 7:41 pm
NO to the premoters ordinance
2504. Dana Johnson | May 12, 2008 at 7:41 pm
I can’t imagine a Chicago this way. The majority of talented, influential artists start from the ground up…
2505. Jillian Zimmer | May 12, 2008 at 7:41 pm
I can’t even comprehend why they would do this… this is beyond ridiculous; I’m not even from Chicago and I’m extremely outraged.
2506. Sarah Kantor | May 12, 2008 at 7:41 pm
Adding my name to the this sucks list. One more reason that I’m ashamed to say Gene Schulter is my alderman.
2507. Sarah J. Ritch | May 12, 2008 at 7:41 pm
As a struggling composer/performer and small events promoter this piece of legislature scares me. I feel frightened for the people of Chicago as well. For the sake of the culture we so love that is present, this can not pass!
2508. Derick Polk | May 12, 2008 at 7:42 pm
If this does not untie th music community I do not know what will.
2509. Bonni McKeown | May 12, 2008 at 7:42 pm
The city would do more for its economy by encouraging small promoters and venues. The music business is difficult as it is, without such repression. It’s almost a free speech issue!
2510. Jill Milam | May 12, 2008 at 7:42 pm
insane
2511. Jose Velasquez | May 12, 2008 at 7:42 pm
Another Way That The City Wants To Get Money!.
Just Sad How Messed Up The City Is Getting!
2512. James SImon | May 12, 2008 at 7:43 pm
Please reconsider this poorly-worded and -considered ordinance.
James Simon
Ward 1
2513. Hillary | May 12, 2008 at 7:43 pm
wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.
2514. aleks tomaszewska | May 12, 2008 at 7:43 pm
I will be very upset with the alderman of our city if this law is passed. As a performer, I am insulted that our music scene that has been crafted over the course of many many years is seen as a threat and a danger, while we have an awful gun crime reputation and a horrible school system for the kids that don’t grow up in wealthy districts. Instead of supporting what is keeping our youth motivated and productive, you spend your passion on squashing our beloved music scene. Even these underground parties that you speak of, portrayed as imminent dangers, are often nothing more than quite intelligent college students and working adults gathering and enjoying music or dancing. I have enjoyed some wonderful, and may I add, clearly SAFE times at such spaces, that added so much to my relationship with Chicago and prevented me from moving out. I don’t put myself in harms’ way. I do wish our police can be more relaxed about such events, once they step foot inside and see for themselves. I don’t see why we should MAKE it all illegal and how our neighborhoods or our city will benefit. This law will simply embitter our talented residents and encourage them to contribute to other cities with thriving art scenes. Chicago already has a terrible reputation for being greedy. Wednesday will be a VERY SAD DAY if you vote against our feelings on this. I will not trust the aldermen to represent our interests. It is clear that we all stand together on this issue. I have not met one person who felt otherwise, and everyone is talking about it. Please just drop this entire issue and move on to real issues and real dangers! This law will be hurtful on a grand scale. Please believe us, we know our city very well!
2515. Dave Ortman | May 12, 2008 at 7:43 pm
Against. I counter-propose a toll on Todd Stroger’s personal elevator to generate the additional revenue.
2516. steven ClausnitzEr | May 12, 2008 at 7:43 pm
This poses little upside for the community and a substantially large downside.
No, no no.
2517. Ephraim Cuellar | May 12, 2008 at 7:43 pm
As a performer and a promoter i find this ordinance insane. We are one of the largest cities in the nation. This is just going to kill all independent art and music from ever happening in chicago. This ordinance should not pass.
2518. Anna | May 12, 2008 at 7:43 pm
It would be a crime to let this ordinance pass. Our cultural offerings in Chicago are in large part what make us a great city and why I personally wanted to live here. We need to support our artists. Please don’t pass this law.
2519. Aurelien Pederzoli | May 12, 2008 at 7:43 pm
I oppose this ordinance.
2520. Matt Harmon | May 12, 2008 at 7:44 pm
I’ll bet Steve Albini is pissed. And when Albini is pissed off, Chicago is PISSED OFF.
Just say no.
2521. Wyatt | May 12, 2008 at 7:44 pm
If this goes through, I will seriously move out of the state of Illinois. I have taken it and taken it and taken it, but this is the last straw. Wisconsin is looking really good right now. I NEVER thought i’d say that.
please do not pass this law.
2522. Chris von Ende | May 12, 2008 at 7:45 pm
I can’t imagine Chicago without its diverse music scene. Don’t let this go through.
2523. Justin DiLorenzo | May 12, 2008 at 7:46 pm
Ridiculous…
Chicago would be so boring without music
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2525. Lizzy Boden | May 12, 2008 at 7:47 pm
This is the most absurd thing I have heard of. I can’t imagine a Chicago without Shuba’s!
2526. Matt F. | May 12, 2008 at 7:47 pm
This is complete bullshit. As a musician and performer, I find this ordinance to be ridiculous. Performing music for me, and I’m sure for many others as well, is a big part of my life. Come on people, why are you trying to crush and destroy the Chicago independent music scene? Save the music and support it, don’t end it.
2527. Jason Collins | May 12, 2008 at 7:47 pm
What kinda city would Chicago become without its wonderful live music and shows!? This is just not right!
2528. Julie | May 12, 2008 at 7:47 pm
The local scene is Chicago at its finest. I oppose anything that dampers creativity.
2529. Ben Kleeman | May 12, 2008 at 7:48 pm
this ordinance needs to be stopped
this will destroy my life if it is passed
something must be done
i will be there when they vote
2530. Brian Paris | May 12, 2008 at 7:48 pm
I believe that this law will cause a lot of harm to the music scene and not help any of the problems that it is attempting to solve.
I ask that you do not vote for this proposal.
2531. Diego Muñoz | May 12, 2008 at 7:48 pm
Ridiculous ordinance. VERY STRONGLY against.
2532. Jim & Kathy Kubik | May 12, 2008 at 7:49 pm
We strongly support the Chicago music scene. This is just another source of revenue that puts too much control into the politician’s hands. Small venues cannot pay this fee and we see no need for it.
2533. brian peterson | May 12, 2008 at 7:49 pm
every band that is playing every big club and festival, the same bands that pump millions of dollars of revenue into the city started out playing small clubs for independent young promoters who did it for the love of music, if you destroy the foundation of this culture you will not only destroy the music scene in Chicago, but you will effect the financial stability of our city by creating job loss, a cultural void, losing the revenue the city generates as these bands grow and how we are perceived by the rest of the country, this could have a ripple effect on the money brought into Chicago via tourists, students, restaurants and more.
2534. Casey | May 12, 2008 at 7:50 pm
Sad. Yet another example of the powerful attempting to pass legislature without understanding the effects it will have on the daily lives of those that it effects.
I pray this doesn’t pass.
2535. Amanda Loomis | May 12, 2008 at 7:51 pm
We must find a way to keep Chicago music alive. That’s why we’re here!
2536. greg bauer | May 12, 2008 at 7:51 pm
i just called 32nd Ward Alderman Waguespack to urge him to oppose the “promoters’ ordinance” (chapter 4-157) that will be voted on this Wedsday
2537. Elisa Kinsler | May 12, 2008 at 7:51 pm
This is the most ridiculous proposed ordinance I have ever heard of.
2538. Paul Pater | May 12, 2008 at 7:51 pm
Don’t pass this law. The city needs to do a better job of creating a law pinpointing the troublesome bad apples ruining the culture instead of laying down a blanket law. This law will kill the Chicago music scene.
2539. Taylor Ward-Cherry | May 12, 2008 at 7:51 pm
This must be stopped!!
2540. Wesley Groves | May 12, 2008 at 7:51 pm
If Chicago as a city means to be taken as seriously as New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco and other major US markets, the City Council should not let this law be passed.
How can any community be considered vital without a fully functioning and accessible arts community?
This ordinance would put the power of disseminating expression in the hands of those that can afford to jump through the bureaucratic hoops and take it out of the hands of the financially underadvantaged, which is a position that most artists inhabit.
Why does the City of Chicago want the lowest common denominator to continue to prevail?
2541. Lea DuFresne | May 12, 2008 at 7:52 pm
This is terrible! The Chicago Music scene couldn’t get any better with that ordinance. It will WORSEN. I don’t know what they were thinking. Think of all the great musicians that have hailed from Chicago, including Benny Goodman. I’m PRAYING this will not happen.
2542. Cary Shoda | May 12, 2008 at 7:52 pm
Chicago and its leaders pride themselves on our city’s vibrant and diverse music and performing arts scene. So it is surprising that our city’s leaders support and ordinance that will surely make the scene less diverse and less accessible to audiences. I will be watching this vote closely.
2543. greg bauer | May 12, 2008 at 7:53 pm
I just called 32nd Ward News from Alderman Waguespack her Alderman to urge him to oppose the “promoters’ ordinance” (chapter 4-157) that will be voted on this Wednesday
2544. Jim Buccheri | May 12, 2008 at 7:53 pm
This is utterly ridiculous!!!!!
The mayor and city council are trying to regulate culture to fit in a box that can be sold on Michigan Avenue. It’s happening all over the city affecting everyones lives, from taxes to the environment to the food we eat. There are a lot of things abhorrent about this administration, but this takes the cake. Independent movie houses are gone, the jazz clubs are gone, and smaller music venues are next. This is our local and state government, which includes Todd Stroger, Mayor Daley and other top democrats(Michael Madigan, Emil Jones) who are looking to pass the buck when it comes to schools and transportation and put the financial burden solely on the people. They are not doing the responsible thing and making cuts in stupid government spending but are pushing the blame on a weak economy. Instead of coming up with creative ideas to help the citizens they are piling on, hoping to get us to pay for their mistakes with taxes on bottled water and “event promoters”. This is part of a bigger picture, it is a war on the culture of this city, take a look at Maxwell Street.
2545. Krystle Merrow | May 12, 2008 at 7:53 pm
Please do not vote for this ordinance. This will kill the artists, and they desperately need to start somewhere.
2546. Luke | May 12, 2008 at 7:54 pm
This is ridiculous and ludicrous. Having lived in Florida, New York, Pennsylvannia, Vermont and Maryland I have seen some crazy laws but this one is the worst. I guess the elder officials in Chicago don’t like music. Does it keep them up until 11pm? Don’t let this pass if you want to keep the scene in Chicago or maybe you will revert to the scene in Bismark, North Dakota.
2547. Heather H. | May 12, 2008 at 7:54 pm
This is beyond ridiculous! Chicago’s livelihood would suffer if this ordinance were put into place.
2548. Scott Parrish | May 12, 2008 at 7:54 pm
I strongly oppose this ordinance. This ordinance will potentially destroy one of the reasons that makes Chicago such an attractive place to visit.
2549. Greg Poljacik | May 12, 2008 at 7:54 pm
I also strongly disagree with this ordinance. Chicago’s performance scene wouldn’t be what it is today without the smaller, indivual venues/performers doing their craft on a shoe-string budget.
2550. Patrick Holbrook | May 12, 2008 at 7:55 pm
I am very heartbroken to hear of this ordinance. I love Chicago’s independent, DIY art and music. It’s where new ideas come from that make cultural life contemporary and alive. Chicago’s culture will die if this ordinance passes. I say this as an experienced cultural worker, artist, and full time university professor for 6 years.
2551. Mallory | May 12, 2008 at 7:55 pm
this ordinance is anti-chicago.
2552. James D. | May 12, 2008 at 7:56 pm
Keep the music alive!
2553. Bob Rummage | May 12, 2008 at 7:56 pm
This law is unacceptable in it’s current form!
2554. Chris O'Connell | May 12, 2008 at 7:56 pm
What would Chicago be without music? NOTHING!!!
Tell the council to shove it and put music back on the map.
2555. Porter Truax | May 12, 2008 at 7:56 pm
wow
2556. Sabina Cosic | May 12, 2008 at 7:56 pm
This is preposterous. This city thrives on it’s music scene and it is the center for unity in some communities. It is ridiculous to try to stifle the right for artistic freedom.
This is absolutely outrageous and cannot be passed.
INCREDIBLY STRONGLY AGAINST!
2557. Keidra Chaney | May 12, 2008 at 7:56 pm
I strongly oppose the ordinance.
2558. Michael McGraw | May 12, 2008 at 7:56 pm
Keep the scene alive!!
2559. Elle Diabla | May 12, 2008 at 7:57 pm
As a talent buyer at a small venue (cap. 111), this will kill us. Several times a week I do free shows and when I do charge a cover it’s maybe $5. There is no way a small place can afford these extra licenses. I know for a fact the bands can’t afford it! They’re lucky when they walk away with a decent amount of money. We can’t let this happen! Soon, bands will have to restort to playing underground parties instead of in the safety of licensed venues. I am so freaking astounded by this!!!
I know about this petition but isn’t there something else we can do? Is there anything being planned that I can attend??
2560. Amber Toth | May 12, 2008 at 7:57 pm
This is ludicrous. I’m here voicing my disapproval–don’t punish creativity.
2561. joesepi | May 12, 2008 at 7:57 pm
sons of bitches!
2562. Geneva Fox | May 12, 2008 at 7:58 pm
This is totally wrong!
2563. Eva Pagacs | May 12, 2008 at 7:58 pm
This is an awful idea. Support smaller venues and local music!
2564. Jamillah James | May 12, 2008 at 7:58 pm
As a former promoter in Chicago, I am appalled to hear about this ordinance. Chicago is a wonderful city, with a wonderful music scene that surpasses New York’s in terms of energy, and the commitment of folks that go to all of the town’s great clubs. This will destroy an important part of Chicago’s history and future.
2565. Kyren Bogolub | May 12, 2008 at 7:59 pm
I have read the ordinance, and it seems to me, considering the ridiculous vague wording of this ordinance, that many more people other then club promoters would be affected. The term EVENT can be used to describe a WEDDING!!!!! That is outrageous if a person has to have a licensed event promoter just to get married? This would also include, galleries, birthday parties, traveling theater or dance groups. BANDS WHO MANAGE THEMSELVES and book their own gigs. Also, the license classifications are based on VENUE capacity instead of actually occupants, so if you want to have a party for 100 people at a bar that has a capacity of 500, you need a class C license, which costs 1000$ Whats going to happen is a select few major production companies that can afford to obtain these licenses will get a monopoly over the industry, everything will become boring and monotonous. Great way to nurture the arts.
2566. David Forsythe | May 12, 2008 at 7:59 pm
Chicago is a hard enough place to keep a decent music venue open. If you do this, you will see a huge jump in underground venues that are often in overcrowded and sometimes unsafe lofts and basements.
2567. George Drake | May 12, 2008 at 7:59 pm
As an employee in the Chicago radio media I greatly oppose this ordinance. I would hate to see a music scene such as Chicago’s, or any major city’s, collapse because of an ordinance that can be avoided.
2568. kazu | May 12, 2008 at 7:59 pm
Would this really be an efficient way to focus our tax dollars? How many new employees would need to be hired in order to properly file the paper work this will bring?
If you, the Adlerman, would take into consideration the total number of “Establishments” or “sites” in the city of Chicago, how many are there? Now take this number and multiply it by the total number of Event promoter licenses. According to the Ordinace, each promoter is required to get a license (A-D), right? Each license will require paper work to be filed, right?
Couldn’t we find another responsible way to spend our tax dollars instead of paying people to file unnecessary paper work? Couldn’t we use these dollars to fix some of the city streets which were destroyed during the previous winter? Or give more funding toward medical research or child education?
Kind Regards,
ckw
2569. Andrew Stewart | May 12, 2008 at 7:59 pm
I can’t believe you would even consider this ordinance. I and most of my friends are fans of our city’s music and arts activity. If this passes it would be terrible for all of our citizens. This would be like just some other big city without reason to visit.
2570. Stephen Schuster | May 12, 2008 at 7:59 pm
This would harm Chicago’s local music scene, which is one of the most vibrant and respected in the country. Our scene is another of the reasons that Chicago is such a culturally strong city… please don’t target the people who exist not so much to make a profit but to keep this music alive!
2571. melissa | May 12, 2008 at 7:59 pm
Please do not pass this ordinance! It will be an absolute disgrace.
2572. Brian Starai | May 12, 2008 at 7:59 pm
This is ridiculous!! Chicago, a city long known for a style of Blues unique to the world, Which brings musicians from everywhere and from all styles wishes to destroy it’s own child! The Chicago politicians short sighted greed knows no bounds! To TRY to make a few bucks, they will end up losing more revenue in the form of visiting musicans and tourism, they will get a reputation as being Not musician friendly and alienate and destroy a culture that has always flourished in the city.Not to mention the citizens that actually work and live in the city!! And while they are considering this as a means to make money, they keep voting themselves huge raises and retirement plans!!
2573. Gretchen Carey | May 12, 2008 at 7:59 pm
Chicago is a city for the arts, a city of the arts! Let’s keep it that way. Chicago is one of the few major cities where exposure to art is still free or at least affordable for everyone. This will impeade the arts community of Chicago greatly! Arts programs have already been cut in schools, now we’re going to cut the arts out of the culture of a city? That makes no sense! E2 would have been solved if the original laws were enforced, so maybe you need to enforce those laws a little bit better before you start to hurt the arts community of this fine city!
2574. Melissa Acevedo | May 12, 2008 at 8:00 pm
I might not live in Chicago, but this will hurt and condemn all aspiring promoters in the United States. As a music promoter myself, I would not want to visit Chicago and pay a fee just to get the word about a band out. This is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever read.
It will hurt the music scene as well as the business and as the economy the way it is right now, it would call disaster for the state of Illinois.
2575. Brian Garbrecht | May 12, 2008 at 8:00 pm
I have been involved with local music for over 8 years and it is horrible to hear that such an ordinance could come even close to getting passed. I ask you to please put a stop to it. So many kids and adults alike depend on local music and venues to give them a fun and safe hobby as well as helping people stay creative. To pass this ordinance would be a crime against the great culture that Chicago thrives on.
2576. Luke Tandy | May 12, 2008 at 8:01 pm
It is vital that smaller/underground/DIY venues continue to operate as they are currently in order to preserve the incredible amount of culture, art, and expression that has come out of Chicago.
2577. JAM ONE | May 12, 2008 at 8:01 pm
passing this ordinance will kill chicago’s music culture
2578. Bert Stabler | May 12, 2008 at 8:01 pm
Go ahead and try to boil this city alive in preparation for the Olympics. Kill the culture industry, along with every other non-tourist sector. It will be a perfectly vacant ghost town when the “world” arrives and want B&Bs to stretch their quads in.
2579. Tom Gullion | May 12, 2008 at 8:02 pm
It’s impossible for me to imagine why a city with such an amazing cultural history and reputation would do anything to harm itself like this? Applying burdens such as this to smaller venues will cripple the vitality of the cultural environment.
I thought it was well-known that having a vibrant blues, jazz, storefront theatre and small performance art scene brings in many, many tourists each year. Of course, it’s a challenge to exactly quantify the money they bring in. But it’s undeniable that it exists. You have only to ask tourists why they visit Chicago. More often than not you’ll hear culture, music, blues and jazz at the front of the list.
Sincerely,
Tom Gullion
2580. john rudnik | May 12, 2008 at 8:02 pm
wow, this ordinance is almost the worst idea ive ever heard of… facism sounded pretty good at first too, and look how that works out for everyone.
if this goes through were all in it pretty deep.
2581. Carolyn Miller | May 12, 2008 at 8:02 pm
This ordinance is ridiculous and completely unnecessary. Chicago’s small venues are a crucial part of its culture.
2582. Dakota Floyd | May 12, 2008 at 8:02 pm
If this goes into effect, how will future promoters “test the waters?”
Some of the best memories I’ve ever had have come form small, DIY shows. I have made more friends at those than anywhere else. How could anyone even suggest this?
2583. Bryan Creely | May 12, 2008 at 8:02 pm
Looks like we’ll have to make the music go underground, al-la Al Capone and Prohibition. This is the biggest load of crap i’ve ever heard of.
2584. Bob Irby | May 12, 2008 at 8:02 pm
The City Council Committee has presented a failed ordinance. Please send it back to the City Council Committee, invite the small venue music community to provide input, and then bring it up to the City council once again. This ordinance, in it’s current form, will do nothing to protect participants at smaller venues and furthermore will cost the city money in the long run.
2585. Juan Santiago Jr. | May 12, 2008 at 8:02 pm
Chicago has become a beacon for the “do it yourself” type attitude and overcoming all hurdles to do what we love musically. This ordinance will not only stifle the creativeness of 1000′s of young chicagoans but also put a lot of kids in the streets doing something negative when they can be at a show watching a band, or even performing.
I strongly oppose this ordinance, Chicago has such a strong culture musically, and the diversity of the city really shows through music, and brings such a diverse city together.
-Juan Santiago
2586. Paul MacBay | May 12, 2008 at 8:03 pm
This is a sad state of affairs for Chicago. How does the city expect any less known, new, or smaller artists to be able to afford such steep requirements as this? Why would a city so diverse in art become so greedy with the artists who have made it what it is today.
Corruption? Greed?
How sad…
2587. Scary Lady Sarah | May 12, 2008 at 8:03 pm
As someone whose primary source of income has been as a club promoter & DJ for the past 20 years (not to mention primary source of joie de vivre) I am naturally completely appalled and against this proposed ordinance. In all the years of my self-promoted Nocturna event, we have never had problems with our host venue Metro, never had complaints by neighbours, never any trouble with patrons or any other sort of possibly dangerous occurrences. I am urging all my patrons to speak out against this unfair & biased proposal. The independent promoters who produce music and club events in Chicago add vibrancy, culture, recognition and commerce to our city and it’s unfathomable that certain elected officials do not understand the value of those things.
If this ordinance were to pass, Chicago’s music culture will lose the product of two decades of hard work (which has essentially been a labor of love of my part.) Please, speak up and don’t let this happen.
2588. Phil Burnstine | May 12, 2008 at 8:03 pm
This ordinance is an outrage! How could a city, with the musical history that Chicago has, even think of passing this law?. Think about what you are doing by passing this ordinance into law. You would be making Chicago Music a sacrificial lamb. We are one of he most creative cities in the country if not the world!
Please, I impel you, the city council, to stop this foolishness.
DON’T LET THIS HAPPEN TO CHICAGO!
Thank you.
2589. Robbs | May 12, 2008 at 8:04 pm
DON’T DO IT!!!!
2590. Angie | May 12, 2008 at 8:04 pm
VOTE NO!
2591. Angie | May 12, 2008 at 8:05 pm
BE SURE TO CONTACT YOUR ALDERMAN AND EMAIL HIM OR HER TO VOTE NO!
2592. Kaitlyn Rak | May 12, 2008 at 8:05 pm
This is completely ridiculous. Such an ordinance would completely kill the underground music scene, and this just cannot be tolerated.
2593. Brittany | May 12, 2008 at 8:05 pm
This is so ridiculous. Save the music!
2594. Ben Chandler | May 12, 2008 at 8:06 pm
While I have little more to add to the 2500+ I’d just like to express my support for those opposing this ordinance.
2595. Brandon Wardell | May 12, 2008 at 8:06 pm
Why on earth would you want to endanger our status as the top theatre city? don’t do it!
-Brandon Wardell
Freelance Theatrical Designer/Teacher
2596. Jessica Cohn | May 12, 2008 at 8:06 pm
Chicago is a city famous for cultural and artistic brilliance. This absurd ordinance has the ability to crush the inspiring community of creators and innovators who have made their homes and livings together here.
In support of every artist and fan of all things cultural in Chicago, I urge the city to stop the promoter’s ordinance and realize it hurts so much more than it could ever possibly “help.”
2597. nathan craig | May 12, 2008 at 8:07 pm
chicago dont be stupid.
2598. Susan Schomburg | May 12, 2008 at 8:08 pm
This ordinance is just a bad idea, no two ways about it. Please vote no.
2599. Kevin Fairbairn | May 12, 2008 at 8:08 pm
Why? This ordinance does nothing except tear up the existence of local and independent music.
Why are you exempt if you have 500+ permanent seats? Those are the only venues who WILL be able to pay these ridiculous fees every time you organize a show. This makes no sense and intentionally destroys all independent music. Only the Ticketmasters, the LiveNations, and the ClearChannels of the world will be left standing. And they are already doing enough to ruin music culture.
Who thought this would be a good idea?
2600. Catt | May 12, 2008 at 8:09 pm
I don’t live in Chicago but many of my favorite artists and musicians do, and this law is ridiculous. Please don’t pass it.
2601. Daniel Moynihan | May 12, 2008 at 8:09 pm
This ordinance is completely unacceptable. It will require a great deal of revision to ensure that established venues are unaffected.
2602. Mitch Pender | May 12, 2008 at 8:09 pm
If this ridiculous ordinance is allowed to pass, it will be a firm slap in the face not only to Chicago’s creative community, but to all of its citizens. We must allow our independent musicians, artists, and performers to thrive, not “regulate” them into oblivion. It is an outrage that such ill-conceived legislation is even under consideration, for if it is put into effect, all of us will suffer. I will happily add my name to the petition.
2603. Gina Knapik | May 12, 2008 at 8:09 pm
the various forms of entertainment are what make Chicago such a great place to live and be an artist!!! Don’t let this happen.!!!!!!!!!
2604. Joe Thompson | May 12, 2008 at 8:09 pm
This ordinance is not the proper way to solve this situation. Revise, fix do what you must, however this proposal could and will single-handedly destroy the underground music scene of Chicago.
2605. Jiggles | May 12, 2008 at 8:09 pm
What exactly is the point of this??!! I can’t imagine what would happen if all the small clubs/bands/theaters had to call it quits. What would we do?? I don’t understand what the point of all of this is…and how would up and coming acts be decided?? on Mtv Reality shows??
2606. Eiren Caffall | May 12, 2008 at 8:10 pm
If this ordinance is passed Chicago will lose one of its most important economic engines, the arts. A vibrant arts community is born from the ground up, from students and emerging artists who have a place to perform. Without free and open small venues – and the people who book and promote them – artists will lose the reason to stay here, the arts community will wither, because without its roots the tree will die.
2607. David Poulos | May 12, 2008 at 8:10 pm
In the past month, I have patronized, among others, the Empty Bottle, Schubas, Metro, The Riviera, the lakeshore Theater, Beat Kitchen and the Double Door. As a lifelong Chicagoan and a music lover and supporter, I strongly oppose this ordinance. As a practicing lawyer, I read the ordinance with disbelief. There surely are greater issues at hand in our city. We as a city need to enable the music scene, not hamer it. Please vote against this ordinance and keep the vibrant music scene in Chicago alive and well.
2608. Rush Pearson | May 12, 2008 at 8:10 pm
Something this insidious must be making someone very very very rich. Why? Why charge someone to be creative? Why is this law necessary? Who in show business does this help? I guess uncreative “business” is sick of putting up with artsy fartsy “show” and wants it killed.
2609. Deanna Hoyt | May 12, 2008 at 8:10 pm
This would be such a shame and i believe that the chicago music scene has done its part in keeping many kids off the streets. If places like the beat kitchen, where its only about $12 at most to get in for the shows a lot of kids wont have a place to go some nights. There could be many negative repercussions. The City of Chicago may believe they are looking towards the future but I think they are missing the whole picture and are truly just looking for a quick fix
2610. Chad Z. Hickman | May 12, 2008 at 8:10 pm
What a tragedy this would be to pass this unbelieveable ordinance. I’ve had some INCREDIBLE Chicago memories over the years, and they’ve almost always revolved around the independant Chicago music scene somehow. What a shame to summarily shut down independant live music and theatre in Chicago, a town that has been a fountain of talented artists for the past century and longer. Not all musicians aspire to play Rosemont or whatever “Enormo-Dome” venues are out there. There is something intimate and special about performance at a venue that only caters to 100 people. And not all music and theatre fans care to sit in a 2,000 plus seat venue.
I will assure you; and I am not the only one; if this bill passes, there is only one reason to visit Chicago, and that is as a rest stop on my way to Milwaukee. Don’t kill a musical Mecca.
Think about this.
Thanks,
Chad Z. Hickman & Maxwell U. Kingston,
2 Concerned Independant Musicians
2611. Jennifer Smith | May 12, 2008 at 8:11 pm
Letting this ordinance pass would be one of the worst possible things that could happen to the city of Chicago. I’ve never even lived in the city before and I have been GREATLY influenced by a number of bands and performers that have come from there. If these artists are not allowed to be heard because of inabilities to meet the standards of this ridiculous ordinance, people all over the country will be seriously deprived of not only amazing music, but amazing influences and inspiration. Please do not let Chicago become another dull and lifeless space on the map.
2612. Joel Esher | May 12, 2008 at 8:11 pm
This is awful awful awful. I have good friends who put on shows at a loss just to get a message out, however these fees will make this impossible. This can not pass or Chicago will cease to be the artistic hub it is now.
2613. gretchen hentemann | May 12, 2008 at 8:11 pm
This is a terrible idea. Chicago’s music scene is what makes Chicago. Please don’t pass this ordinance.
2614. michael sommerlad | May 12, 2008 at 8:11 pm
roses are red
violets are blue
bend over music scene
the city’s here to screw you to…
no to promoter’s ordinance…
2615. Paul Zimmernann | May 12, 2008 at 8:11 pm
This is ludicrous! It will stifle the creative industry in Chicago, where so many greats have cut their teeth and honed their skills.
2616. Michelle Grant | May 12, 2008 at 8:11 pm
Sounds like another way of taxing us. Do we really want to deter music–aren’t the festivals and music a draw for tourists to Chicago?
2617. Jeremiah Johnson | May 12, 2008 at 8:11 pm
NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2618. Nina Williams | May 12, 2008 at 8:11 pm
2619. Nicholas Willig | May 12, 2008 at 8:12 pm
What kind of mental dissorder do you have? It’s idiots like you that are causing young people to step up and vote for a canidate like obama! The culture of chicago has absolutely no impact on your corrupt politics, so stay out of it.
2620. Adam | May 12, 2008 at 8:12 pm
This is a ridiculous ordinance that will kill independant music, art and culture in Chicago. What is the exact point/aim of this ordinance?
2621. S.I.R | May 12, 2008 at 8:12 pm
What kind of money making scheme is this. I am appealed that the city is now the mobster force. Things would be a lot betta if the the mob was still in place. At least they understood the arts.
S.I.R Inc.
Master of Production and Service
2622. Nicholas Szczepanik | May 12, 2008 at 8:13 pm
The more I read about America’s desensitization towards the importance of culture and art the more I want to move to another country.
2623. Michelle Scott | May 12, 2008 at 8:13 pm
Small venue music, theatre, comedy and other programming are some of the biggest things that embody what Chicago is to so many local, regional, and small national acts.
Implementation of this ordinance will not just stifle this creativity and artistry, but will cripple the foundations that these things were built on in this city that has always been known for giving up and coming creative artists a chance to not only make their dreams a reality, but also giving the public the chance to see those dreams unfold.
I implore all who will vote on this topic to think hard of what they’re potentially denouncing and vote a very vehement and heartfelt NO on this ordinance.
2624. Araceli Arroyo | May 12, 2008 at 8:13 pm
Count me in, I will also post email forward on my ChicagoPhotos.blogspot.com blog.
2625. Will Morgan | May 12, 2008 at 8:13 pm
For the sake of the Chicago’ s Artistic community, vote this ordinance down.
2626. Bartek | May 12, 2008 at 8:14 pm
please stop this from happening!
it is rediculous and should have never even been considered in the first place. think of the deep and colorful history of Chicago music shaped in many ways thanks to events just like the ones that this law would prevent. These events play an important role in the Chicago’s music and overall cultural scene. Please leave them alone!
2627. M. Montreal | May 12, 2008 at 8:14 pm
Chicago has been a haven for community theater groups and other cultural organizations that aim to promote Chicago’s diversity through the arts. These arts-based groups provide a sense of belonging and build bridges of understanding among the different communities. This ordinance will make it difficult for such small not–for-profit arts groups to organize these arts events/performances. It will contribute to more alienation and sense of isolation among people from different communities in Chicago.
2628. Dave | May 12, 2008 at 8:15 pm
Way to screw the small guy Chicago!
2629. Amy Anderson | May 12, 2008 at 8:15 pm
This is a huge blow to the amazing music community that this city has! It has to be stopped.
Amy Anderson
2630. Brett Bakshis | May 12, 2008 at 8:15 pm
Simply enough, I think this is a bad idea and should not be passed.
I am a musician and plan on making a long and fruitful career of it, starting in Chicago. I’d hate to have to leave the city to find work because of an ordinance so wildly unpopular as this one.
Please do not pass this measure.
2631. Jesse | May 12, 2008 at 8:16 pm
This ordinance has the potential to severely damage my favorite aspect of Chicago – the music scene. Don’t pass this!
2632. save chicago!!!!!!!!!!!! | May 12, 2008 at 8:16 pm
Chicago needs its music and arts period
2633. Flora Strange | May 12, 2008 at 8:16 pm
I don’t live in and have never been to Chicago, but as a person who loves many bands that have grown out of that scene, and as a culturally aware person, I think this is an awful idea.
2634. Garrett Parker | May 12, 2008 at 8:16 pm
Please don’t let this pass.
2635. Jeff Albrecht | May 12, 2008 at 8:16 pm
As a recent college graduate who has just become full-time employed and has already seen one show at the metro I feel this is an outrage. The idea seems to be pushed forward by large “Event planners” who do not want competition for their shows. They can therefore charge more. Maybe I am just cynical but I really don’t see any other realistic logic to support passing this ordinance. As a city most well known for the blues brothers the idea of stifling options to enjoy a night in the “big city” seems like a ridiculous idea. I think in the end it would ultimately hurt the city’s taxable revenues moving many shows to the suburbs, and would make Chicago a much less happening and current city. Part of what makes entertainment great is the variety. Increasing the cost for “event promoters” only stifles the variety and hurts musicians, music show goers, and the tax collecting portion of the city as well as the city as a whole. Please do not pass this ordinance which only complicates a relatively simple enjoyable experience. Theres no reason I can see important enough to allow this to become a bereaucracy which hurts 95% of the City.
2636. Megan L | May 12, 2008 at 8:17 pm
As a huge supporter of Chicago’s live music scene, I am totally opposed to the promoter’s ordinance. It would be shameful for Chicago to lose or hinder its live music performances, which is one of the things that makes this city great.
2637. Woodrow Kolovitz | May 12, 2008 at 8:17 pm
I am 100% against this ordinance, both as a fan and as a performer. Eliminating Chicago’s low budget independent performing culture will not only devastate our artistic community, but will also cut directly into much of the tourism that Chicago benefits from. From every angle this would damage the City of Chicago.
2638. Maria | May 12, 2008 at 8:17 pm
This is way too much of an overreaction to E2. Please don’t kill Chicago’s rich music scene with this ordinance. Vote NO and let everybody play!
2639. Lindsay | May 12, 2008 at 8:17 pm
Chicago is the greatest American city, rich with a real art culture that taught me a lot when I lived there. Combined with education and artistic expression, Chicago has some of the best talent from all over the world.
Music makes the city vibrant and was the birthplace to many musical legends. Taking that away is taking away a rich and positive history. This ordinance is ridiculous.
2640. Sarah Doyle | May 12, 2008 at 8:17 pm
Please, don’t do this to us. Chicago THRIVES on it’s smaller music and arts scene. We need these smaller venues open and available to people because we aren’t New York or Los Angeles. Our art scene is smaller by comparison and we need every art venue to keep it alive!
Please, don’t do this. We beg of you.
-Sarah
2641. Ashley Samolitis | May 12, 2008 at 8:17 pm
I think this idea is quite ludicrous. The reason many of my friends and I love going to Chicago is for the music and theater. The fact that the Chicago music scene is so diverse is the reason that it is so great. To just cut it out would be insane, and would leave the youth without an outlet. Which I think everyone knows is not a good idea. Give your youth something to believe in, something to learn from, something to enjoy. Don’t take it away. You want your youth to be great, to be inspired, the arts including music and theater are the way. We all know how the arts can improve your life and can improve the intellect of young people, so why would you want that to go away? Give these youths a chance, let them enjoy the culture that you had the chance to experience and let them find the people that they are going to become.
2642. Matthew Hart | May 12, 2008 at 8:18 pm
This is an putrage.
2643. Jason Allen | May 12, 2008 at 8:18 pm
The net result of this bill would actually hurt revenue, because of the immediate loss of sales tax and tourism that these small clubs generate when they go out of business.
Not to even begin to mention the cultural loss… Chicago is known for its music internationally, and you’d be kicking a lot of us out, basically, if this bill passes.
2644. saalik ziyad | May 12, 2008 at 8:18 pm
This is a terrible ordinance. Do any other cities have this ordinance? What about the little artists? I disagree.
2645. A.J. Wester | May 12, 2008 at 8:18 pm
This will not only keep artists from Chicago, but really cause a lot of us who have worked very hard to keep the arts alive and well AND THRIVING in Chicago to move to NYC or LA.
PLEASE DO NOT PASS THIS ORDINANCE!!!!!!!
2646. dennis yarbrough | May 12, 2008 at 8:18 pm
Bad idea. no go.
2647. Sharon Lau | May 12, 2008 at 8:18 pm
Though I am not a Chicago resident, I live in an area with a growing music scene as well, and I am horrified to learn of this ordinance. How can any city with such a history in music even think of passing a law like this? I understand the need to weed out those who are not following set city laws, but this suggestion doesn’t help the cause. Rather, it will stifle the artists and leave them with no options. Do not pass this, unless you actually want the music scene to die out. If it can happen in Chicago, it can happen anywhere.
2648. Haley Neale | May 12, 2008 at 8:18 pm
Music and art programs across the country are already losing major funding and suffering tremendously. The basis of Chicago’s appeal is the fact that the city thrives on its variety of artistic performances and festivities that are taking place constantly. Not only will the city lose a vast number of visitors, but many of its citizens will suffer as well.
2649. Jason Manning | May 12, 2008 at 8:19 pm
save the music.
2650. Oleg | May 12, 2008 at 8:20 pm
It’s hard enough to get bands to come out here as is; must you deprive Chicago of its entertainment to such an extent?
2651. Haley | May 12, 2008 at 8:20 pm
This is absolutely ridiculous, and I’m 100% against this. Without these amazing venues that showcase independent music I would most definitely not have the love I have for music today. This would hurt the Chicago music scene and the entire city I believe, we can’t let this happen!
2652. Robert Perisho | May 12, 2008 at 8:20 pm
This ordinance is absurd! If there is an apparent problem with the current protocols for venue performances, this is not the means of fixing it. The only thing this ordinance will succeed in doing is demolish our exuberant resource of upcoming performers. This will kill the Chicago art scene hands down.
2653. David Chelimsky | May 12, 2008 at 8:20 pm
Please take the time have this evaluated properly. Given the late hour of public notice and the obvious concern from the community, passing this law now will only lead to years of anger and protest, not to mention a significant tear in the soul of Chicago’s cultural scene.
2654. Matthew Newman | May 12, 2008 at 8:20 pm
Had these laws been in place in years past, cultural icons of the city (and large tourism / revenue draws) such as The Second City and iO, would not exist. Demand for these theaters, in their early incarnations, simply could not sustain these additional performance fees. Chicago parades out names like Bill Murray, Chris Farley, John Belushi and Bonnie Hunt to draw cultural appeal to our fine city, but then threaten the community which built those names with this legislation.
I shudder to think of the cultural damage, present and future, that will be done in the face of this ordinance.
2655. alison stein | May 12, 2008 at 8:20 pm
ridiculous!
2656. Jennifer Wheeler | May 12, 2008 at 8:21 pm
This city will lose millions of dollars in tourist money if this ordinance passes. Chicago Blues music draws people from all over the world and this will have a very negative effect on the blues musicians and their music. Please rethink the consequences this will have on our rich, cultural music scene.
Jennifer Wheeler
Chicago Music Photographer
2657. TB | May 12, 2008 at 8:21 pm
This is crazy…I can’t believe this is even being considered. Music, theater not only help enhance taxpayers enjoyment and make living in Chicago desireable but helps drive tourism dollars. Stop this ordinance or next election there will be consequences. taxpayer in Ald. Mell’s ward
2658. Joe Lombardo | May 12, 2008 at 8:21 pm
After moving back to Chicago nearly ten years overseas, I was so happy to see that Chicago’s ‘live houses’ blossomed into a so real and vibrant part of the city… Please don’t take this away… There are so many talented people out there who deserve a place to perform, just as do those who feed off them and are a more complete / productive person because of it…
2659. Colin P. | May 12, 2008 at 8:21 pm
As an independent musician, saxophonist, and all-around music connoisseur, I am absolutely appalled to see that this ordinance has even crossed the minds of some people. I am a sophomore in high school, and my future regarding music colleges is very real to me now, and part of me pre-education I had expected to receive was from a band. Why should I even practice if I’m not allowed to play? If I’ll be stuck in somebody’s basement playing for nobody but ourselves? You are trying to kill one of my greater joys, and for what? There is no logical reason evident here for why this should happen. I am entirely against this, and I hope you make the right decision and try to preserve one of Chicago’s greater traditions.
2660. Melissa Fye | May 12, 2008 at 8:21 pm
This has to be the most ridiculous ordinance ever! One of the reasons I love Chicago is that we can do something different culturally every day we choose. All the city council cares about is money. There is so much more at stake than that!
2661. Michael Olson | May 12, 2008 at 8:21 pm
This is among the most ridiculously inflammatory acts of bigbusinessophilia I’ve ever seen. I hope this “idea,” (is there a word for the exact opposite of an idea?) is crushed swiftly.
2662. Rafael | May 12, 2008 at 8:22 pm
Chicago’s culture lives in the music. Please do not pass this ordinance. As an artist and fan this is one of the worst things you can possibly do to such a great city. Music and music events are what kept me focused at a young age and pivotal time in my life: don’t take that away from the next generation in Chicago.
2663. Dawn Haase | May 12, 2008 at 8:22 pm
This is absolutely ridiculous! Don’t be thieves and rob artists of their freedoms!
2664. Matt Thompson | May 12, 2008 at 8:22 pm
Please don’t pass this ordinance.
2665. Caroline Fourmy | May 12, 2008 at 8:22 pm
I chose to live in Chicago because of the atmosphere of artistic support and freedom in this city. Though I don’t think any ordinance will stop that, this law will certainly make experimental and small-scale creativity more difficult. It’s hard enough to live as an artist! Don’t make it harder!
2666. Richard Fuss | May 12, 2008 at 8:22 pm
Just a month ago the City was promoting Terminal Tunes, its program for playing local music at O’Hare and Midway. It would be down right shameful if this ordinance passes and the only place to hear local music in Chicago would be at the airports.
2667. Stan Wood | May 12, 2008 at 8:22 pm
This purposed law is an OUTRAGE!!! I see no difference between this and the Nazi book burnings. How could anyone even consider this law with any seriousness. If this law is passed, this means that almost every musical act in the World would have to play in venues outside off Chicago.
Completely OUTRAGED,
Stan Wood
2668. Kristin Manzi | May 12, 2008 at 8:22 pm
If someone is going to hurt (i.e. small venues) then everyone should be hurting equally. This further helps entertainment monopolies like Clear Channel take over the world. Do we really want an entire world of MTV?
2669. paul | May 12, 2008 at 8:22 pm
classic city of chicago/ cook county nonsense. we had one nightclub and its owners overfill their club and the rest of the truly independent, creative musicians/artists have to pay? good old crooked chicago. instead of going after the nightclubs, why doesn’t daley clean his own house first? long live independent thought and underground/creative music. vote no on this ridiculous ordinance. e2 is not representative of the entire nightclub scene of chicago. it is the exception rather than the rule.
2670. Aaron Elmore | May 12, 2008 at 8:23 pm
This proposal is absolutely appalling. To enact legislation which benefits big business by keeping aspiring artists and entrepreneurs from being able to achieve success will leave the city’s artistic presence hurting for years to come. If Chicago wants to leave culture to other cities, such as New York and Austin, than by all means enact this, otherwise please veto this measure.
2671. Nikki DeBardlebon | May 12, 2008 at 8:23 pm
It is horrible that this is being considered. Without smaller venues, many bands would never get their start. It’s important that these places stay around, they help give Chicago it’s character.
2672. Pegs | May 12, 2008 at 8:24 pm
Where do we have to show up in order to show that there are thousands against this? Where is the meeting?
2673. Dan Suh | May 12, 2008 at 8:24 pm
Growing up in Chicago I spent countless hours at the Fireside Bowl watching and enjoying independently promoted punk and indie rock shows. These concerts would go on to shape my adulthood and lead to a career in the music business. Effectively eliminating options not only serves to stifle a necessary outlet for positive energy but stifles the creativity of an upcoming generation of musicians that will have no outlets to develop their musical skills.
2674. Peter Szczypinski | May 12, 2008 at 8:24 pm
This has to be edited to make sure it’s combating the real problem and not hurting the musicians.
2675. Laurie | May 12, 2008 at 8:24 pm
This proposal would be a huge blow to music and arts in this city. I’m an event producer and would not have the budget to continue to produce events under such strict rules. My events are already safe and responsibly run – this ordinance is unnecessary and far too restrictive.
I predict that the musician population would diminish drastically if this passes. It sure isn’t the weather that’s keeping them here.
Write your aldermen!!
2676. Chris Cote | May 12, 2008 at 8:24 pm
Property taxes, gas, wheat, bottled friggen water… how much more can our government AND MORE IMPORTANTLY the city we grew up in reach into our cashpile? Oil companies are receiving record yearly revenues and apparently thats fine. What can ya do?
This is freedom of speech with a price tag. And rather than getting the receipt and the item you paid for, you get rules and a welcome mat to an agenda you didnt want in the first place.
Born and raised in the city of Chicago and Ive never been so embarrassed to be a part if it, not to mention this country. Now is the time for the city of broad shoulders to show some support rather than issue another receipt.
2677. Kelly | May 12, 2008 at 8:25 pm
This is completely ridiculous.. Chicago is known for its music scene and cultural events.. If you take this away you take away what is so inspiring and great about our city. P.s not to mention to u money grubbing assholes. You will lose money. Tourist don’t come here to sit in traffic.
2678. Kayla Fink | May 12, 2008 at 8:25 pm
This ordinance is complete trash. Chicago would be nothing without its art.I dont think I could ever picture Chicago without the Metro.
2679. Mary S. Butler | May 12, 2008 at 8:25 pm
I am going to give Ald. Eugene Schulter and the other driving forces behind this ordinance the benefit of the doubt and assume that the impetous for this proposed legislation was to prevent another E2 nightclub tragedy from occuring again. However, this type of cure will only kill the patient. Please rewrite this legislation so that independent promoters — and the bands they book — aren’t driven out of the city.
2680. Pegs | May 12, 2008 at 8:25 pm
The next meeting of the Chicago City Council will be held on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 at 10:00 a.m. in the Council Chambers on the 2nd Floor of City Hall, 121 N. LaSalle Street, Chicago IL 60602
2681. Tracy | May 12, 2008 at 8:25 pm
VOTE NO
2682. Karen Veit | May 12, 2008 at 8:25 pm
I am a supporter of the arts, not a supporter of unnecessary ordinances.
2683. Harrison Schneider | May 12, 2008 at 8:26 pm
VOTE NO!!!
2684. Eric Rezendes | May 12, 2008 at 8:27 pm
I’m an up and coming comedian. Don’t pass this ordinance. I really don’t want to have to move to NY or LA.
2685. Derek Dietrich-Muller | May 12, 2008 at 8:27 pm
The great thing about metropolitan cities is that they are cultural hubs, where people gather to share ideas and produce things greater than one person could accomplish by themselves.
With this ordinance, Chicago is showing that it doesn’t want to be a cultural center.
With this ordinance Chicago loses vibrance.
With this ordinance Chicago starts pedaling backwards
With this ordinance I start looking for a more refreshing and open atmosphere.
2686. Evan Smith | May 12, 2008 at 8:27 pm
Chicago has one of the best music scenes in the country, and the Promoters Ordinance would have a negative effect on Chicago’s music and cultural scene. Concerts put on by smaller venues and promoters provides the citizens of Chicago and surrounding areas with entertainment. Many concerts provide the youth of Chicago and surrounding areas with something productive to do and potentially keeps them out of trouble. I have personally gone two hundreds of concerts in Chicago, and 95% of them were in smaller venues.
Passing the Promoter Ordinance would effectively take away Chicago’s music and cultural scene, which is a major part of Chicago’s identity. Many venues, promoters and bands may go out of business. Many great musical acts both from Chicago and all over the country would stop playing in Chicago. If the Promoter Ordinace passes, Wednesday May 14 will be the day the music died in Chicago.
2687. Ray Graffia, Jr. | May 12, 2008 at 8:27 pm
Were this to have been in force in the mid-1960s, none of us would have ever been able to turn Chicago into the music capital of the USA that it was – and, albeit to a slightly lesser extent, remains. Speaking as a founding member of “Chicago’s Own” New Colony Six, neither we nor any of our peers who had great success after we were fortunate enough to get the breakthrough radio airplay and appear in small venues to build a fan base, could have made it without relocating to other cities/states. Chicago would have lost: NC6; Shadows Of Knight; Buckinghams; Ides Of March; Cryan Shames; American Breed; Chicago; Styx; REO Speedwagon; Cheap Trick, and all the other acts who followed, and whose records brought the beginning of this now-thriving (but soon to be dead if this passes) renaissance of music and other forms of artistic impression to our fair city. Please do not let this happen; rethink it, reword it or you will remove all prospects for musicians to earn a living in Chicago. How sad would that be?
2688. kulsoom naqvi | May 12, 2008 at 8:27 pm
this could kill one of the best things about Chicago. Please dont pass this bill.
2689. Manchershaw Engineer | May 12, 2008 at 8:28 pm
If this ordinance passes, I see no reason for me to live in Chicago anymore. I wouldn’t even visit. There would be nothing of interest left here.
2690. Tracy | May 12, 2008 at 8:28 pm
Chicago is known for its music, art without it we would be nothing. Vote no. I don’t think Chicago would be the same if we did not have a Metro, Double Door, Schubas, Beat Kitchen, Subterranean… VOTE NO! Chicago is my home and I don’t want my home to be ridiculous boring because of this. This is an outrage.
2691. Matt Goldrick | May 12, 2008 at 8:29 pm
This can’t be what the council intended; we can have sensible regulation of nightclubs without killing a vibrant independent music scene.
2692. Kerri Thompson | May 12, 2008 at 8:29 pm
People’s livelihood will be significantly affected if this ordinance is passed. Please don’t pass it.
2693. Eric Cartier | May 12, 2008 at 8:29 pm
I vehemently oppose this ordinance. Its passage would be a crippling blow to the artistic institutions that make Chicago such a wonderful city.
2694. Leah Brown-Summers | May 12, 2008 at 8:29 pm
Please do not due this to our local venues! Some of the best shows I have ever seen have been in the smallest Chicago venues and are forever unforgettable. Do you really want to put an end to this? Does the City really care? Not many people are able to pay the rising prices to see a good band these days anyway, are you going to take what little we have left?!? Chicago is know for it’s music, so do you really want to cut down on tourist revenues? Or band tours stopping here? Wake up!!
2695. Matthew Tinken | May 12, 2008 at 8:29 pm
This thing should not pass.
2696. T. Allen | May 12, 2008 at 8:29 pm
This ordinance will continue to hurt the growth of the Chicago entertainment and music circuit. There are thousands or artists and dj’s that thrive on the shear opportunity to be able to showcase their talent. If the city takes away their voice then they are taking away the voice of many of the people here in Chicago. Not only that, the Chicago music scene is already very limited, and artists have to work 10 times as hard to get exposure on a national level. Having locations which will allow artists to gain some exposure is important to the development of our tourist scene as well as to our overall entertainment community. The businesses and the people will be more upset than happy if this ordinance passes.
2697. Calie Lyons | May 12, 2008 at 8:30 pm
SAVE THE LOCAL MUSIC SCENE!
2698. Carrie Jensen | May 12, 2008 at 8:30 pm
PLEASE vote against this ordinance. It will drive so much wonderful culture out of our city and kill the music and arts communities that make Chicago a wonderful place to live.
We don’t want to leave with it. Don’t do it.
cj
2699. Patrick | May 12, 2008 at 8:30 pm
How typically unfortunate. Art will survive, the artist will survive but let’s start to embrace the creative among us instead of forcing them into the shadows. This ordinance needs to be defeated.
2700. Kari Casady | May 12, 2008 at 8:31 pm
This is so ridiculous, I don’t even live in Chicago and this is just outrageous.
I hope this doesn’t pass.
2701. Chuck Tipton | May 12, 2008 at 8:31 pm
If I am reading this ordinance accurately, which I think I am, the Chicago music community could be destroyed by this ordinance. Taxing events and the performers will not stop artists from performing. It will drive them to the nearby suburbs that are cheaper and open to the arts. It would be sad that I would have to drive to Cicero or Evanston to see a show.
2702. Alma Princip | May 12, 2008 at 8:31 pm
this city should be ashamed.
2703. Dina Moore | May 12, 2008 at 8:31 pm
Please do not pass this ordinance. By doing this you are going to take away all of the opportunities for local bands to play. We like our small venues because they are a place for the fans of all sorts of music to come together and feel like a family . These sorts of places are run by people who can’t afford to buy a 2,000 license to have shows. It is going to effect the entire local community. Please save our music!
2704. Emily Green | May 12, 2008 at 8:32 pm
This is utterly ridiculous. Thank you to those who started this petition and to all those who have signed it.
2705. Nicole Vernon | May 12, 2008 at 8:32 pm
I saw this and I just couldn’t believe it. The terms of the promoter’s ordinance will not only criple Chicago’s music scene but it will also distroy a good amount of American culture. The Chicago music scene is well known through out the US. It’s a steeple to the music industry. You can say that there have been dangers or accedents envovled but that will be true of any music venue or any other type of large gethering. It’s not fair to punish everyone in Chicago or in other areas of the US just because a handful of people take advantage of the music scene. I’m sure there are hundreds of thousands of people who can atest to the major influence this aspect of Chicago has had on their lives and we should help preserve these experiances for future generations. You can go to any concert, jump in a mosh pit and cause some serious harm, but that doesnt mean anyone is going to stop music venues from holding concerts or selling floor tickets. Chicago just has this on a much larger level. These are the experiances most people remember from growing up. These expriances are major steeples in American culture. To deniy people of that chance is not only cruel and unfair but its damaging to the future of adolecents and the future of Chicago’s culture. There are other solutions that I’m sure can be developed. Ones that would not be so damaging to the music scene. Why not look into some of those?
2706. Cally Zhou | May 12, 2008 at 8:32 pm
This is rediculous.
-Cally
2707. Sarah M | May 12, 2008 at 8:32 pm
This is outrageous. I do not live in Chicago, or even in the United States, but I am a fan of the music that comes out of Chicago. I would not have even heard of any of the bands that I now love if it hadn’t been for small clubs in Chicago giving those bands a start. By passing this ordinance, you would be putting an end to the careers of new bands. Someday those bands could be huge and well-known on a global level. Don’t deny them of that chance. Please don’t pass this ordinance. If you don’t care about music lovers and bands themselves, please consider the economy of Chicago. By passing this ordinance, you would be pushing away tourists who come to experience Chicago’s great culture and art scene. We all know that the U.S. economy is in trouble now and there’s no need to add to the problem. Please, please don’t do this.
2708. Kent Lambert | May 12, 2008 at 8:32 pm
Please register my strenuous disapproval of this ordinance. It is an intensely unfair and misguided proposition with the potential to dismantle the city’s creative core.
2709. W. McEvilly | May 12, 2008 at 8:32 pm
This ordinance would be a deathblow to Chicago’s music community. Please don’t let this happen.
2710. Livid_lemur | May 12, 2008 at 8:33 pm
This is a discrace to the artistic mileu of Chicago. Hands off of the art and music scence, scumbags!
2711. Anne Kogan | May 12, 2008 at 8:33 pm
It’s unbelievable that a city that prides itself on the diversity and quality of its performing arts communities, whether music, theater, etc, would even consider passing an ordinance like this. There are so many better things that city government could be doing with its time and energy.
Anne Kogan
2712. Steve Novak | May 12, 2008 at 8:33 pm
If the council votes for this, I will not vote for any currently elected official and I will encourage my friends and family to do the same. The arts is what makes this city the best city in the World. The council should realize there are more pressing matters of public safety going on in the city that need to be addressed.
- Steve
2713. Janet Hendrickson | May 12, 2008 at 8:33 pm
I strongly oppose this ordinance.
2714. Colin Beckett | May 12, 2008 at 8:33 pm
DO NOT let this happen! Chicago is one of the top cities for up and coming musicians in the US. This is a very bad idea, and would greatly hurt the Chicago scene and culture, who’s large diversity is what makes it great.
It is the smaller venues that allow a more intimate performance and inspire the creativity in people that Chicago is known for.
This can not be allowed to happen.
2715. Michael Bowen | May 12, 2008 at 8:34 pm
Please stop the passage of this law. One of the reasons that I moved to Chicago was for the great amount of theatre and music that was presented in a local setting that was not run by large companies. Chicago is known for the wonderful theatre and music scene. This would kill small neighborhood theatre and venues. Besides hurting the theaters, clubs, and music venues, it would also hurt the pubs, restaurants, and business that surround the venues. Again, please do not pass this ordinance.
2716. Craig Stacey | May 12, 2008 at 8:34 pm
I strongly disapprove of this ordinance. No good will come of it, but much bad will. Don’t stifle arts and entertainment in Chicago.
2717. Ben Stach | May 12, 2008 at 8:34 pm
As someone who has enjoyed the independant scene in Chicago for many years, I can say without a doubt that this ordinance would put a serious amount of harm to Chicago’s culture. The people of Chicago have formed our own identity out of our expression in the arts and making it so individual voices are harder to hear goes against everything Chicago stands for, past, present, and future. Please! Don’t let this pass!
2718. Joshua Brinkman | May 12, 2008 at 8:35 pm
This appears to be another way for government to financially gain from a serious tragedy. Charging additional fees to small time local promoters and requiring nonrealistically enforcable permits is not going to make events any more safe. All it will do is raise the price of tickets, stifle young, up and coming talent and essentially bleed more money out of the public. Let’s all stay home and watch it on TV!!!!!
2719. Lev Burov | May 12, 2008 at 8:35 pm
Stop this at all costs. Keep Chicago a beautiful city that it is and allow its music to thrive free.
2720. Frank Rizzo | May 12, 2008 at 8:36 pm
Please do not pass this ordinance, if it is passed it will ruin the music scene surrounding Chicago, which is what has made Chicago grow.
-Frank
2721. Michael Covenant Watson | May 12, 2008 at 8:36 pm
I’m reminded of a line that said; ‘If they can’t get you in the wash, they’ll sure as hell catch you in the rinse.” This is Daley and his rubber stamp machine, I mean city council members finding new and heinous ways to wring every cent feasible from low to moderate income workers, consumers and small venue owners, all of whom get taxed, licensed, and special fee-ed to the max. As a poet who attends and on occasion participates in “events” often attended by well under 500 persons, saying that this will destroy an entire strata of arts entertainment culture and its inherent diversity an is an understatement. It deserves every iota of defiance artists and their supporters can muster.
2722. Sarah Prasch | May 12, 2008 at 8:37 pm
As a relatively new resident of Chicago, I greatly appreciate the legendary music scene. In fact, it is the main reason I fell in love with this great city. It is ridiculous to pass an ordinance so detrimental to the music scene (especially to our local bands) and consequently, Chicago’s unique culture.
2723. Joe M. | May 12, 2008 at 8:37 pm
How does the city expect to be the breeding ground of the next big band/comedian/actor if they pass something like this? I strongly disagree with this ordinance.
2724. Dan Kaufman | May 12, 2008 at 8:38 pm
This is just another effort by the city to raise revenue in a politically safer way. It will stifle our cultural options. The only way we can defeat this is by convincing the Council that it’s not as politically safe as they think.
2725. Frank Krolicki | May 12, 2008 at 8:38 pm
This would mean horrible things for the local music community. PLEASE do not allow this to happen!
Frank Krolicki
2726. Ernie Adams | May 12, 2008 at 8:39 pm
This ordinance is so ridiculously severe that it may also be a reverse bait and switch. Present a worse case scenario like the absurd present ordinance, the concerned public opposes it, the law is struck down for a less severe ordinance, the concerned public is placated and Chicago’s City Council gets what it wanted all along. This ordinance, in any shape or form, must be be shot down, by any means necessary.
2727. Alex Roth | May 12, 2008 at 8:39 pm
So much for government serving the people. Don’t just sign this, be sure to write your alderman and make them clear on the implications of this ordinance.
2728. Blagica S. Bottigliero | May 12, 2008 at 8:39 pm
Simply put, this ordinance makes no sense. As a member of the 2nd ward, I vote NO.
2729. Jill Snyder | May 12, 2008 at 8:39 pm
This is a horrible idea!! I have never personally been to Chicago, but am close to many people in bands who’ve played there, and I know this would be horrible for them. If this law is passed, I will NEVER visit Chicago or give the city any of my tourist money >:(
Being from Los Angeles I know a whole lot of Chicago transplants who’d be heartbroken if this was approved.
2730. J Montgomery | May 12, 2008 at 8:39 pm
I oppose this ordinance because it would have an immeasurably negative effect on the arts culture of Chicago. The majority of Chicago’s theatre industry is comprised of small companies presenting in small venues. This ordinance would make it nearly impossible for them to continue producing theatre; I am sure the same applies to the other performing arts. A diminished arts scene leads to a less vibrant Chicago.
2731. RON BAY III | May 12, 2008 at 8:39 pm
it would be a true tragedy if the government once again steps all over those of us trying to make things happen, and get our art and music out there, we can not let this happen,
2732. Jon Allegretto | May 12, 2008 at 8:39 pm
This is outrageous! I cannot believe that such a thriving and art-loving city could impose such an ordinance to squash the free expression of its creative citizens. This cannot be made into a reality!
Chicago is the city I love, where I am proud to make music and perform it freely. I am very disappointed that the mere thought of this has passed through the minds of some of those holding power here. You should be ashamed.
2733. Emily Dunn | May 12, 2008 at 8:40 pm
Please do not pass this ordinance.
2734. Jonathan Graef | May 12, 2008 at 8:41 pm
The Chicago music scene, which we all support with our hard earned dollars, would be effectively eviscerated if this ordinance is to pass. For the sake of your city’s underground culture, please do not pass this ordinance!
2735. Brian franz | May 12, 2008 at 8:41 pm
from the first time i saw a show at the fireside i have been hooked on chicago. never have i been to a city with a more rich, intimate music and cultural scene. the death of which would upset me dearly. please, please, please don’t let it die.
chicago is music.
chicago is culture.
chicago is in all of us, so lets give back.
tax my cigarettes,
tax my beer,
tax my gas,
but don’t you dare tax my soul.
/signed
2736. Aaron Wilkins | May 12, 2008 at 8:41 pm
As a musician, artist, and teacher working in Chicago, I cannot believe the city would consider an ordinance like this. Every band I’ve ever played with has promoted itself. Every art show I’ve ever done has been promoted by myself. Every student musician we record at Roosevelt High School will promote him/herself when seeking shows. This city is famous for our art; let’s not threaten it.
2737. Gretchen Badami | May 12, 2008 at 8:41 pm
I greatly appreciate the Chicago music scene and it is perhaps the cornerstone of Chicago culture. This ordinance will ruin the eclectic innovative cutting-edge music scene for which Chicago is renowned.
2738. Emil | May 12, 2008 at 8:41 pm
Save Chicago.
2739. Colleen Archer | May 12, 2008 at 8:41 pm
This is unbelievable. It seems to affect EVERY kind of independent artist. I’d expect this from LA, but come on, we’re better than that…
2740. Rogelio Zamudio Jr. | May 12, 2008 at 8:41 pm
This is lame. Like, totally.
2741. Casey DeFreitas | May 12, 2008 at 8:42 pm
Please don’t pass this insane oridnance!
Although I live in Florida, I would hate to see anyone lose their local music.
2742. Jim Farmer | May 12, 2008 at 8:43 pm
Bad idea………….
2743. Samantha Burgan | May 12, 2008 at 8:43 pm
Please do not pass this ordinance! Just like many of our taxes, this ordinance will most affect the people who can least afford it. Save the Arts!
2744. Jessica | May 12, 2008 at 8:44 pm
I have always been proud of Chicago’s strong independent music scene. The idea of this makes me really infuriated. Why would a city so rich in culture make try to make artists work so hard to bring that culture to everyone? It is ridiculous. We already have the highest sales tax in the country. Don’t try to ruin our music scene as well.
2745. Molly Hale | May 12, 2008 at 8:44 pm
This ordinance would kill comedy in Chicago.
Most people consider Chicago the improv capital of the world.
This ordinance would put an end to that immediately.
2746. C F | May 12, 2008 at 8:44 pm
Come on now this is Chicago. Home of the blues and jazz. What a shame it would be to only see it in airports and the suburbs. Also it is a business and a lot of places want live music and a lot of people like to listen to live music. So what about the economy too. The music helps it. So keep the music there.
2747. Jana Johnson | May 12, 2008 at 8:44 pm
what is wrong with today’s world. even though we live in a free society it feels like we face more and more restrictions and limits on simple everyday items, and now they are trying to place limits our music. its not right.
2748. Andrew Larson | May 12, 2008 at 8:44 pm
Suffice to say ditto to all previous comments. I can’t imagine the cultural void that would be missing from my life w/o all the small time/venue acts i’ve seen in the past that would not have been book under this pending ordinance. This ordinance will no doubt stifle an amazing scene. Relevent entertainment back ‘underground’ for real!
2749. Daniel K | May 12, 2008 at 8:45 pm
As a Chicago dweller and music lover, this is important to me. Please don’t pass this ordinance.
2750. dusty | May 12, 2008 at 8:45 pm
I don’t think it is right to make it harder for artists to climb up the proverbial ladder. Please rethink what the consequences of this ordinance could be.
2751. nick stankus | May 12, 2008 at 8:45 pm
what are you thinking? sounds like you aren’t going to be haven too much revenue come into the city with this.
2752. Crystal | May 12, 2008 at 8:45 pm
You know, city officials and police are always complaining about how young people are always up to no good and have little interest other than drugs and such. Music has been a SAVIOR for me throughout my life and without it, I may have ended up one of those kids the officials always complain about. To pass this ordinance will make it harder for those kids with dreams to make it big all that much harder and will deprive others of the musical talents they have to offer. No one should ever have to pay thousands of dollars for their music to be heard. Save independant music, save kids, save dreams. It’s pretty simple.
2753. Samantha Gordon | May 12, 2008 at 8:46 pm
I think it is incredible to think that such a thing is good for the city in anyway. It means that the people in the city are limited to what they see and experience. Maybe some conservative citizens are in favor of this but music makes the world. If a person is entitled to license themselves and expect to pay large sums of money for each event either the cost will get so high for tickets that no one will show and legendary places that bring tourists in will have to close. This means that the money will lose money in the long run.
2754. Tony Kortas | May 12, 2008 at 8:46 pm
As a lover of Chicago’s independent theatre scene, I strongly oppose the ordinance as written. Please change it so that it does not destroy a vital part of Chicago’s culture. In the mean time, vote NO!!
2755. Matthew Palm | May 12, 2008 at 8:46 pm
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2756. Mike Hilmer | May 12, 2008 at 8:46 pm
This bill would spell certain doom for the independent music community as well as smaller theater projects and could even seriously impede Chicago’s economy. Approving this measure would be absolutely ludicrous.
2757. Ashley Hasler | May 12, 2008 at 8:47 pm
music is important and a free spirited event, don’t ruin the fun for everyone. :[[
2758. sara garcia | May 12, 2008 at 8:47 pm
don’t throw away our music scene.
2759. Chelsea A. Freestone | May 12, 2008 at 8:47 pm
As in the words of rihana
“please don’t stop the music”
lol, corny i know, but this ordinance is just as lame.
2760. Jason Burke | May 12, 2008 at 8:47 pm
Lame!
Will be blogging about this at http://www.lovechicago.org
Jason Burke
2761. joseph hanna | May 12, 2008 at 8:48 pm
this could be a very bad more for such a culturally diverse and rich city. many “promoters” in this city don’t even do it for money, they do it for the music and for the scene and could in no way afford to pay these fees. i really hope that somebody re-thinks this whole thing.
2762. Emily Banks | May 12, 2008 at 8:48 pm
I love Chicago and think this is absolutely ridiculous.
2763. Ray Sutliff | May 12, 2008 at 8:48 pm
I am an avid pursuer of music and especially in smaller clubs like the ones this measure aims to shut out. I have many friends who’s livelihood depends on these small venues and promoters. It would be a shame for the city to lose so many places where music and artistic freedom and creativity are allowed to flow freely and without suppression. While this law won’t directly stop anyone from creating art it will limit the avenues to expression, making possible “illegal” venues popular and more common. While I can appreciate the fact that they city is trying to keep me safe I have not had any problems with the current situation and neither have any of my friends. I hope that smarter and more logical heads will prevail and not allow this law to become a reality.
2764. Ramon | May 12, 2008 at 8:49 pm
yo, this ordinance thing is totally whack. i completely oppose this action.
2765. H. Ireland | May 12, 2008 at 8:49 pm
As the owner of a small non-profit that produces plays for children and their communities, this tax would put us under. We’ve served thousand over the last 5 years. The joy of being an artist in Chicago is how many you can reach – the varied venues, the many voices, the diverse communities. This ordinance would prevent thousands of children from seeing quality art and therefore learning the wonders of self-expression and becoming the well-rounded citizens we need them to be productive members of society.
2766. Drew Snyder | May 12, 2008 at 8:49 pm
I have been looking forward to moving to Chicago after college and experiencing all the culture and music and theatre it has to offer, and i feel like if this is passed, so much of that will dissapeer and the city will lose a lot of its charm. Please, do not cancel out a dream 18 years in the making. So many of my close friends are musicians who also dream of one day playing in Chicago, and the only way to do that is to start small and build up. However, by y voting yes, you are making it much harder to chase that dream, if not impossible.
2767. Andrew Edmonds | May 12, 2008 at 8:49 pm
This ordinance is an outrage, and possibly unconstitutional. Please do not pass the promoter’s ordinance.
2768. Tressa Slater | May 12, 2008 at 8:50 pm
Ridiculous. Who’s trying to get rich off of this? not artists, I guess they’re already way too wealthy. Let’s do ourselves a favor and not ruin the amazing art and music scene Chicago currently offers by making everything a generic corporation.
seriously, what makes the city think any small promoter can afford to do that? they would put a lot of people out of jobs. That’s what we need, more unemployed people. aarrgh!
2769. John Harmon | May 12, 2008 at 8:50 pm
This seems un-American on every level. As a tax-payer, musician, music-lover, and advocate of the DIY ethic, I feel that this is something that the city cannot afford to do and it seems that my voice is simply one among many. This will crush the Chicago music scene with a swift blow.
Do the politicians and police forces of Chicago have nothing better to do than kill art? I feel violated.
Vote No!
John Harmon
2770. Ysaye McKeever | May 12, 2008 at 8:50 pm
i oppose this ordinance. do not pass this as a law!!!!
2771. Jimmy Krok | May 12, 2008 at 8:50 pm
I love Chicago, BUT i strongly oppose this ordinance. This would drive a large number of creative individuals away from this city. Smaller events are one of the things that make this city great.
2772. Ashley | May 12, 2008 at 8:50 pm
My sister goes to Chicago every weekend just to see bands. She tells me its the best experience ever, I’m not aloud to go to Chi City until I turn 18. Don’t take away the Chicago music scene cause theres people out there that need that experience and to see Chi City.
2773. Aaron Schuck | May 12, 2008 at 8:50 pm
if you look at the full picture, chicago is a town and area so full of musical talent. you flip through any alrernative press magazine and see how many of those bands come from chicago. by passing these laws, it will be let talent waiting to be heard go to waste, to and absolute waste! It will be crushing dreams of so many musicans and many people alike that want to be seen in those Alternative Press magazines. And honestly, what should it really matter to you government pricks that are trying to take this away from me and everyone else who has signed this…. you get your tax money from such things as ticketmaster ticket sales.
2774. Akshita | May 12, 2008 at 8:50 pm
As a big music fan who has grown up in Chicago, the music scene has always been a big influence on me. I know that when I grow up I’m going to look back fondly at my memories of attending shows at the very same clubs and venues that you are trying to shut down.
To hear this news saddens me greatly. I want to be able to take my children to these venues so they can experience the great Chicago culture just like I have. But these fees and restrictions that you are placing on these venues are ridiculous.
They are small places, most of the clubs can’t afford to pay that much just to continue being a venue for music. The reason they are so popular is because they are cheap for the general public, your fees would only raise prices.
There are certain things that you can never completely stop, like underage drinking. But these places do their best to do what they can. They don’t promote underage drinking, and so they are like any other place. If a teen wantes to get drunk, they don’t a rock concert for an excuse. You guys are the ones using these clubs as an excuse. Don’t.
2775. mrsballs | May 12, 2008 at 8:50 pm
NO, NO, NO!
2776. Steve Garlick | May 12, 2008 at 8:51 pm
As a musician in a growing band, this would pretty much wipe out our plans and dreams. We are at the point where we can draw a decent crowd, but nowhere near 500+. I’ve spent a good chunk of my life amongst the great people at the double door, subterranean, beat kitchen, and metro. It would be such a shame for that to be taken away.
2777. Kim Kortkamp | May 12, 2008 at 8:51 pm
Who’s in charge here? Are you outta your mind? Hopefully this petition gets into the right hands before it’s too late. Chicago would not be Chicago, as we know it, if something like this gets passed.
2778. Ramon | May 12, 2008 at 8:51 pm
yo, this ordinance thing is totally whack. i completely oppose this action.
2779. Spencer Zidarich | May 12, 2008 at 8:51 pm
I strongly disagree that these things should be put in to place in the city of Chicago. We have been well known for so long for our wide and diverse culture that taking it away would be a major shock to people across America.
2780. Jesse Baltes | May 12, 2008 at 8:51 pm
I keep checking my calendar but it’s not April 1st so I guess this is legit. I moved to Chicago to pursue a career in stand-up comedy but this ordinance would all but eliminate my ability to develop and improve my comedy at open-mics and showcases. If that were to happen I would have no choice but to move to New York or Los Angeles to chase my dream. I would hate to leave because I love Chicago. I just don’t see how our elected officials could justify reducing Chicago, a city known internationally for its comedy as well as music and theater, to just another concrete jungle. The end result would undoubtedly be a mass exodus of hugely creative and talented Chicagoans bound for the likes of NY or LA.
2781. daniel burke | May 12, 2008 at 8:51 pm
do not let this pass. another attempt to stifle our already dwindling list of freedoms.
2782. Mikey Lovechilde | May 12, 2008 at 8:51 pm
This ordinance is going to ruin the best part of this city. One of the few real things left here. A community that already has a hard time keeping up with the high prices of living. It would be a shame that our arts community would have to jump multiple costly hurdles just for free expression. No to the ordinance!!!
2783. Roscoe Nicholson III | May 12, 2008 at 8:51 pm
Please help preserve the very, very special music scene that Chicago has fostered until now. Do not erect these barriers that will handicap a city that is currently able to support so much wonderful music.
2784. Edward Bernard Cavanaugh | May 12, 2008 at 8:51 pm
This is totally and utterly REDICULOUS!!! To bands in Illinois who are up and coming Chicago is a major stepping stone to trying to become known. If the council has any heart they will stop this madness. Please for all of the citizens and cultural arts of Chicago, and its surrounding areas.
Edward Bernard Cavaught -17- Joliet, IL
2785. L. Miknaitis | May 12, 2008 at 8:52 pm
This is not a smart way to generate tax revenue or perserve one of Chicago’s most notable art cultures, live music.
2786. Michael David Ray | May 12, 2008 at 8:52 pm
I think this is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. The city of Chicago benefits a lot off of concerts. I couldn’t imagine not being able to go to House of Blues, Metro, or all the other great venues in this wonderful city of Chicago. I’m all against this bullshit.
2787. Tara | May 12, 2008 at 8:52 pm
I am appalled at this ordinance and it’s implications. Chicago is a nationally recognized theatrical hub thanks in huge part to the hundreds of small theater companies who have operated for years creating visceral, exciting and socially potent work in church basements, galleries and storefronts. The ordinance will not only thwart many small production companies here in Chicago but will in turn have huge repercussions nationally.
2788. Nick Dellacroce | May 12, 2008 at 8:52 pm
This would ruin the city. We need to not let this happen.
2789. Kari Caminitti | May 12, 2008 at 8:53 pm
As of fan of music, I seriously can’t believe that they would put this ordinance up.
Did they ever think about all the well-known performers who have come from Chicago???? Kanye West, Twista, Common, Fall Out Boy??? If this gets passed, this ordinance is basically saying that they won’t be able to play in their home towns. How ridiculous????
2790. Matt Kalinowski | May 12, 2008 at 8:53 pm
I am shocked and appalled … and as such, I disapprove of such an ordinance. I hope the elected officials realize the consequences of passing such a law.
2791. Gayle Kamberos | May 12, 2008 at 8:53 pm
Please do not pass this ordinance. It would make our bright and vibrant city ever so pale.
2792. Deirdre Harrington | May 12, 2008 at 8:53 pm
this is ridiculous.
if we can’t have the rights to go to shows without paying a million dollars, what do we have?
most bands aren’t 21, so there goes rising musicians.
the chicago scene is one of the best around.
if that goes, music around the world will decline.
so many great bands of our day have come from here,
playing at those very venues that are threatened to close.
if you want todays children and teenagers of chicago to be even LESS culturally educated, go ahead with this ordinance.
2793. Chris Corsale | May 12, 2008 at 8:53 pm
Chicago’s thriving arts scene is the pride of the midwest. Effectively putting hundreds of artists, venues, and promoters will, without hyperbole, cripple a community that stands out as one of the nation’s best. Artists, whether full-time career artists or part-time semi-pros, will be rendered powerless, and the fans and surrounding community will pay the price. We canNOT let this ordinance pass.
2794. Emily Beaudin | May 12, 2008 at 8:53 pm
as a music lover in chicago, i am appalled the city council would attempt to make it so hard for small venues to hold concerts. chicago is a great city and this kind of sneaky behavior threatens the existence of the great music scene it has.
dont let it pass!
2795. Michael Ordower | May 12, 2008 at 8:53 pm
I don’t like the way this sounds. My friends and I depend on the Chicago music scene not only as a social conduit, but as an artistic one. Many of my friends are in bands and choose to express themselves on-stage, and yes, exclusively at small venues. Without such venues, I shall lose institutions with which to identify myself, and will subsequently feel forced to assimilate with the drug-and-sex-obsessed culture of my high school. Furthermore, if this bill has been proposed in response to illicit behavior, then it has been conceived in foolish logic, for it shall only encourage less and less legitimate promoters to lead a music scene even more underground, clandestine, and injurious to the security of youths. If our local government makes it its aim to induce the destruction of our best venues–the Metro, the Riviera, etc. then its aim is to destroy an integral part of its youth culture, the ability to listen to local music. I’d certainly prefer that this bill be stopped.
2796. Scott | May 12, 2008 at 8:53 pm
This must not happen. We need Chicago as do others!
2797. Sam Krager | May 12, 2008 at 8:53 pm
Chicago is known for its music and cultural arts scenes. This ordinace would do nothing but help the music industry to fall even faster. It would not only hurt the bands and venues that have to put up with this, but the people. The people who love going out and seeing there favorite band perform.
This is one of the most narrow minded law things that I have heard about.
DON”T LET THIS PASS!!!!!
Im a kid taking my time on writing this, that shows how important I think this is.
GET A LIFE
2798. Mynor Gonzalez | May 12, 2008 at 8:53 pm
This is terrible, music scenes are already being destroyed by the corrupt people that run some of it. We don’t need to make excess damage with an unnecessary law like this. This has to be stopped.
2799. Kristi Dorson | May 12, 2008 at 8:53 pm
I am a lifelong Chicagoan and intend to remain for many more years. A large part of Chicago’s vibrant spirit lies in the people, the up-and-comers, the burgeoning talent we possess and showcase. If this ordinance passes, some of that spirit will be repressed, stifled, perhaps even killed off. It certainly sends a discouraging message to all independent artists, and it leaves a sour taste in my mouth. Don’t hold back the things that make our city wonderful. Vote against this ordinance and encourage our growth.
2800. Bryan Wiseman | May 12, 2008 at 8:53 pm
As an independent promoter, I can truly say this would be a devastating blow to the live music community of Chicago. Music is an outlet for almost everybody, and has been an important facet of life since the earliest civilizations. The logic of taxing those attempting to enrich and please the those around them is absolutely irrational and must be stopped.
2801. Joshua Weidling | May 12, 2008 at 8:54 pm
chicago music is one of the only scenes alive today and this will ruin it. please dont let this happen
2802. Chris Porter | May 12, 2008 at 8:54 pm
I love Chicago. I think though, who ever thought this was a good idea doesn’t have a creative personality or a person who doesn’t really care about chicago venue. Why was this even thought to be a good idea? If this comes into act, I won’t really look forward to chicago as much as I used to. I mean, that really takes a way alot.
2803. Stephanie | May 12, 2008 at 8:54 pm
I wasn’t born in Chicago or have ever been there, but i have heard so many wonderful things about the music scene their. Ever since I was 14 I only drempt of the day I could go to Chicago and be apart of that scene. Alot of bands that play in those places excel to meet their dreams, what ever they might be. If you take this away, you limit the dreams of youth more than the are already limited. Don’t take away the hope of so many kids.
2804. Nick | May 12, 2008 at 8:54 pm
I see this only causing problems and destroying the ground level of the arts, which is where almost everything must rise out of to go go anywhere or be recognized in the first place. Who benefits from this? Have you considered the myriad effects this will have? Without public discussion or debate? This is grossly irresponsible. Listen to the people before moving ahead, or you’ll know about it later.
2805. Eric Tecuanhuehue | May 12, 2008 at 8:55 pm
This is outrageous the music scene is the best thing about Chicago an idea of this should not even be thought of
2806. bootzilla | May 12, 2008 at 8:55 pm
Save the local scene! This must not happen! We all need Chicago!
2807. Dustin | May 12, 2008 at 8:55 pm
please do not let this pass if it was not for the local small market shows i would not have ben able to make it threw my teen years. think of all the kids that will be left with nothing to do but make trouble. this law would reaqly hurt the youth of chicago.
2808. L.E. McGuire | May 12, 2008 at 8:56 pm
This is an absurdity, especially for a city in the throes of a bid for the Olympics. I support the arts and culture. I do not support this ordinance as a resident of the 49th Ward. Hear me, Joe?
2809. Jordan | May 12, 2008 at 8:56 pm
if you take away the chicago venues thats like taking history away from chicago, i live at the metro and house of blues! im not drving all the way to the stuck up suburbs or the middle of illinois to see a artists that i love, besides where mayor daley going to get his wonderful tax money that he just loves to take and take for himself, go?
keep the venues alive!
2810. Frank Trode | May 12, 2008 at 8:56 pm
I’m from NY, but a lot of folks here admire and support Chicago’s music and arts reputation. And the 500 seat and above venue exemption sounds like a blatant big business move.
2811. Runawayheadphone | May 12, 2008 at 8:56 pm
i disapprove…
– William
2812. Eddy King | May 12, 2008 at 8:56 pm
i dont think that is right to do it shouldnt be done
2813. Richard | May 12, 2008 at 8:56 pm
This is outrageous.
Music and art are independent and beneficial to a local and international culture.
They should not be shut down or given hurdles to rise over.
By passing this you can assure much of the music and art scene of Chicago (or any area) to struggle.
Do not let this pass.
2814. Camille Semanic | May 12, 2008 at 8:56 pm
i think this is terrible. The ordinance is a bad idea. This will ruin the new age. Chicago is all about the arts. Do not pass this law.
2815. Brian Curtin | May 12, 2008 at 8:57 pm
If this ordinance becomes law, the city of Chicago as a whole will really have taken itself down several notches. Chicago’s rich musical heritage will be obliterated if the small time venues are hit by this ordinance as it appears that they will. Please do not allow this to happen.
Brian Curtin
2816. Marissa Camarillo | May 12, 2008 at 8:57 pm
To take away the music, is to take away of what made the city so great in the first place. This is an outrageous attempt to stifle our already dwindling freedom. DO NOT LET THIS PASS!
2817. Kim | May 12, 2008 at 8:57 pm
I live around Chicago and attend many shows and this ordinance would have a negative effect on the music scene, small bands, and small venues.
There is no reason why promoting should be so strictly regulated.
The music venues here provide a fun atmosphere for music lovers and bands, and this ordinance would take away from all of that.
Passing this ordinance would be a terrible, negative mistake.
2818. Michelle Weissgerber | May 12, 2008 at 8:57 pm
As a non-union performer and as a regular theater/music patron I completely disagree with this ordinance. Chicago is known for it’s creativity in all forms and all backgrounds. By passing these new rules and fees you are segregating the creation of art to one group or “class” of people. That’s not only the death of good thriving art, but it’s one sure step into a caste system. I don’t know who’s idea this was, but you obviously have not one creative cultured bone in your body and you should be slapped…repeatedly. This will not help the economy!
2819. Wyatt | May 12, 2008 at 8:57 pm
////bad idea
2820. Katie | May 12, 2008 at 8:57 pm
the only reason i ever go to chicago is to see shows at the metro. The enviroment makes you feel great. Ive always told people that if they visit chicago that is one place you must stop by. With this law in place all of that could stop. Good feelings out the window.
Putting this law in place would also loose sooooo many memories…. the starts of many bands are in those buildings. Plus many bands im sure dream to play there.
THIS LAW SHOULD NOT GO INTO PLACE! YOU WOULD BE KILLING MEMORIES!!!!
2821. John Andon | May 12, 2008 at 8:57 pm
I’m a teen living in the chicago area and personally, this would be a bad law to be passed. I spend so much time going to concerts that i don’t know what i would even do if the bands playing are limited.
2822. Christopher McGovern | May 12, 2008 at 8:57 pm
I strongly oppose this ordinance.
Christopher McGovern
Futonic Records
2823. Alexis | May 12, 2008 at 8:57 pm
without our diverse cultures, we will cease to exist.
2824. Paul Giallorenzo | May 12, 2008 at 8:58 pm
This is beyond ridiculous. Who is the fool that proposed this legislation? Do they think they will actually get re-elected?
2825. Kristina Gallapo | May 12, 2008 at 8:58 pm
One of my favorite things about living in Chicago is the access to great live music. I love that I on an given night I can go somewhere and pay $5 – $10 and see some great bands. I have met so many amazing people this way. I know I’m not the only person. Music gives people an escape and a sense of community. We worry so much about the youth getting into trouble and being out on the streets. Passing this Ordinance will only have a negative effect — promoters won’t be able to afford to put on shows and ticket prices will go up and kids won’t be able to afford them. With all of the other inflation going on — our taxes & gas prices — is this really necessary? There’s got to be a better solution to this!
2826. Ahmad Bawani | May 12, 2008 at 8:58 pm
i agree with martin, i dont get the logic behind this ordinance, i am completely against this, as an individual whos been to the metro at least 15 times in a span of 3 years
2827. Robert Berg | May 12, 2008 at 8:58 pm
As a musician who has worked in the city of Chicago for over 40 years, I am against this ordinance and the unfair amount of culpability placed on the promoters of music as well as the performers and artists who could ultimately be unable to live and work creatively under such harsh circumstances, leaving Chicago a city barren of musical life. E2 was a disaster in which both the ineffective city inspection program and the irresponsible club owners bear the blame. Don’t make the artists and their promoters pay their price.
2828. John Snow | May 12, 2008 at 8:58 pm
This is the definition of shooting yourself in the foot. Send this out to every thinking person you know.
2829. Lacy | May 12, 2008 at 8:59 pm
do you honestly think that taking away Chicago’s musical culture is going to do good? this will be the worst thing that could ever happen to any citys culture. I am a teenager who pretty much goes to concerts every weekend and I dont know what my life would be like if there was no more HOB, metro, aragon, etc. that would be the worst thing ever..
Pass this bill and there will be much trouble…i can guarantee.
SAVE CHICAGOS MUSIC SCENE!!
2830. Tony Oquendo | May 12, 2008 at 8:59 pm
Please do not pass this. The wording of this is far too broad and will cause damage to the local music and art scene in Chicago.
2831. Melanie Miller | May 12, 2008 at 8:59 pm
fuck that shit
2832. Catherine Casabianca | May 12, 2008 at 8:59 pm
this is totally ridiculous. there is no reason for this to happen and no reason for it to happen. this will hurt the whole country esecially the major music music fans.
2833. kevin kramer | May 12, 2008 at 8:59 pm
Chicago is one of the greatest music cities in the entire world!!! We must continue to nurture the great musicians and artists that are enriching the lives of hundreds and thousands of people from all over the globe. Don’t let one isolated tragedy ruin music for everyone. please! peace!
2834. Michael Rychlewski | May 12, 2008 at 9:00 pm
Please don’t do this, Mayor. This is the no. 1 theatre city in the country and it’s because of the variety: big, small, gay, straight.
Promoters in samll venues can’t offord this. Why are you trying to suffocate the small theatre community here? I don’t get it. This is why people move here, why the city is so vibrant. You’re cutting off your nose to spite your face.
2835. Elizabeth | May 12, 2008 at 9:00 pm
I’m speechless. I cannot believe something this absurd could even be happening.Nobody benefits from this at all.
2836. Carrie | May 12, 2008 at 9:00 pm
Not only will this hurt Chicago’s cultural scene, but it will hurt business as a whole. When one business is hurt, it affects those around them. For example, restaurants and bars in areas surrounding venues will certainly be hurt when theater patronage slows down. Also, cultural spots can sometimes be beacons of light in otherwise shady neighborhoods. If those small theatres close, it will most certainly affect the health of the neighborhood as a whole.
2837. Kate T. | May 12, 2008 at 9:00 pm
I think this is completely ridiculous. I’ve been going to shows for a little over a year and they have completely changed my life.
At larger shows it’s really hard to talk to the band, but at smaller shows is really easy. The bands are always very welcoming and nice, and it’s even more amazing because you can watch bands that started out pretty small, evolve and turn into truly wonderful groups.
I’ve been watching Love Me Electric, and since have booked them for a birthday party where they couldn’t have been more accomodating and gracious.
I’ve met, and even become friends with some amazing people because smaller bands have been allowed to play in Chicago.
Also, how are the bands supposed to get any bigger if they aren’t allowed to show themselves when they’re small and build a fan base.
Definitely save the smaller venues featuring the smaller bands because these shows are more enjoyable and life changing than the bigger concerts most of the time!
2838. Peter Gianakopoulos | May 12, 2008 at 9:01 pm
This is another travesty to the independent music scene. Are there any cities left worth living in that don’t use the corporate clear-channel squeeze?
Peter Gianakopoulos
The Old School Records
2839. Joe Krolicki | May 12, 2008 at 9:01 pm
Please do not approve this ordinance!
2840. Maria | May 12, 2008 at 9:01 pm
Please vote NO!
2841. Nancy Harmon | May 12, 2008 at 9:01 pm
This is absurd. Whoever came up with this ordinance is a money mongering idiot and obviously had no artistic childhood. Their attempt to annhilate the local music scene is ridiculous…if they thought the community would stand for it they are dead wrong. Support local musicians.
2842. arielle mofuggin chaos | May 12, 2008 at 9:01 pm
let chicago be what it wants.
save the scene of chicago.
let the local shows, go on.
this is bullshit
2843. Sara | May 12, 2008 at 9:01 pm
Save the scene.
2844. Dennis Folwarczny | May 12, 2008 at 9:01 pm
Yeah, this is dangerous and bad. No no no no no.
2845. Alex Goddard | May 12, 2008 at 9:01 pm
Chicago is one the best cities around when it comes to music. This ordinance will not make events held in Chicago any safer, all it will do is drive artists, performers and events elsewhere.
2846. Katie | May 12, 2008 at 9:02 pm
I don’t live in Chicago, but I’m a HUGE music fan, and a bunch of bands I love are from Chicago.
This is crazy! Chicago is known for it’s amazing music scene!!
2847. Andrew Wichman | May 12, 2008 at 9:02 pm
This is one of the most stupid ideas they could come up with! It seems to me this is all about greed. As a Musician, Music Lover, and A FULL TIME EMPLOYE OF A MUSIC STORE! I feel EXTREAMLY VIOLATED BY THIS IDEA!
Save Chicago From This Stupid Idea!
VOTE NO!
Andrew Wichman
2848. Adam Powers | May 12, 2008 at 9:02 pm
The music coming out of Chicago is the reason I moved here. Not LA or NYC. CHICAGO where music runs free. Who ever came up with this idea I am very disappointed. Save the arts.
2849. Angelica | May 12, 2008 at 9:02 pm
Unbelievable. I am shocked and disgusted. This is a ridiculous ordinance that would ruin our great city I love so much. The bubbling entertainment of Chicago helps promote tourism that brings money to our city, ie there’s always a lot to see and do in Chicago. Way to make it boring and expensive here. I’m sure they’ll be flooding the city in no time. I oppose this ordinance with every fiber of my artistic being.
2850. Jessica Wolfe | May 12, 2008 at 9:02 pm
I am strongly opposed to this ordinance and will be contacting my alderman, Manny Flores, to express my concerns. I have many friends who are musicians and have been enjoying live music in Chicago in small and large venues since the 1980′s. It would be a shame if these draconian restrictions comes to pass.
2851. Kaitlyn Keller | May 12, 2008 at 9:02 pm
Are you serious right now?
You can’t pass that, you’ve got to be kidding me.
Some of my alltime favorite bands started in Chicago, and the places that are being threatened are where they made themselves. Chicago is one of the greatest music scenes around, why would you want to take that away? So much for cultural education when you’re lacking these venues. You won’t have any of the real Chicago-show experiences anymore if this gets passed.
2852. John | May 12, 2008 at 9:03 pm
Absolutely ridiculous! This can’t pass!
2853. Audrey Wen | May 12, 2008 at 9:03 pm
One of the best things about this city is its smaller venues that provide high quality music, giving exposure to up and coming bands. Not only that, the venues are often active members of the community, supporting local businesses and organizations. I would be very angered and saddened if this were made more difficult, possibly inhibitory for bands to play here on account of financial reasons.
2854. Carl Schaap | May 12, 2008 at 9:03 pm
Most everyone who has been to Chicago, much less lived here, would wholeheartedly agree that the best aspect of our culture is that we can truly live the American Dream here; we can more easily bring our dreams and plans to the greatest city in the world and turn them into reality.
Instead of considering strategies to encumber the great American dream, Chicago needs to continue its tradition of doing what we can to support these efforts in order to maintain and grow our brilliance!
2855. Shannon Forrest | May 12, 2008 at 9:03 pm
I cant believe this. I love the metro/beat kitchen ect. shows at these small, intimate venues are what makes the chicago music scene unique. This ordinance should Seriously be reconsidered.
2856. Liam | May 12, 2008 at 9:03 pm
Please DO NOT pass this ordinance. Those of us who have made very hard choices to contribute to the Chicago music world will be forced to either quit or take up residence elsewhere. I for one will have to stop not only live gigs, but because of financial duress, will no longer be able to teach school-age kids music or do volunteer work in music. This would be a horrible mistake.
2857. brooke | May 12, 2008 at 9:04 pm
this is so dumb. they’re trying to stop chicago from having undergorund bands. thats what the music scene is bascially about. and without chicago there isnt even one! they cant stop those places from having shows. they might as well go out of buisness. pass this stupid law and so many people will complain to chicago.
we should start a riot :p
2858. Josh Cheney | May 12, 2008 at 9:04 pm
Please don’t do this. It would only hurt the businesses. Please.
2859. Sara Levine | May 12, 2008 at 9:04 pm
completely absurd…besides our entertainment being ripped from us, the amount of local business that would normally rely on live music as a part of their profits can be completely destroyed…
2860. Nora Flanagan | May 12, 2008 at 9:04 pm
This ordinance is insane. It’s designed to all but eliminate independent shows, thus bulldozing the Chicago music scene for the likes of Clear Channel and Live Nation to decide what shows we see. The small show scene here is nationally known. Let’s not nuke it.
2861. Ayisha Jaffer | May 12, 2008 at 9:04 pm
How can the entertainment industry of indie artist and underground like events OUTDANCED or after parties or all of anything in this culture of Chicago flourish in liberal creativity? The idea of “city life” will cease and people will be dissuaded and leave to a real city or place of creative and innovative culture vs. big business mainstream culture. That’s for the suburbs.
2862. Zachary Bright | May 12, 2008 at 9:04 pm
Keep art alive! This ordinace is merely a generator for revenue and an extension to bureaucratic control. It has no purpose other than to extinguish the voice of the artist. I pray this ordinance is never passed in Chicago, the country, the world, or the ‘verse.
-zb
2863. Tom H. | May 12, 2008 at 9:05 pm
This is absolutely outrageous. The Chicago music scene continues to grow, and this ordinance can only have a negative effect.
This will be posted on several forums.
2864. Mace Ponce | May 12, 2008 at 9:05 pm
This makes absolutely no sense!! It would put so many venues and bands out of business. The live music and theater seen is the only thing that keeps me in the city as opposed to moving to the suburbs. It’s actually what keeps me in Chicago in general!!
2865. Laurel Haines | May 12, 2008 at 9:05 pm
This ordinance is a terrible idea. Please do not pass it.
2866. Patrick Sproull | May 12, 2008 at 9:06 pm
probably a bill written by a bunch of old schnooks with sand in their vaginas
2867. Chris Z. | May 12, 2008 at 9:06 pm
Don’t destroy the Chicago culture. I have moved away from my hometown, but I am still passionate about this. I miss the night life- being able to catch a show, see a one-man play or even a belly-dance performance. No matter what day of the week, you could find SOMETHING fun to do.
The city gets enough money from parking tickets and business licenses. Leave the artists alone.
Why don’t you just take away the arts from schools? Oh, wait..you did that already.
2868. fran snyder | May 12, 2008 at 9:06 pm
Will lawmakers ever tire of making bad laws they can’t enforce? When will they stop cowering to every little squeaky wheel that wants some grease?
Who complained and what was their complaint? Noise? Don’t you already have a noise ordinance? Safety? Don’t you already have fire codes?
A new law or ordinance is simply a way to tell people you did something, when you actually did nothing. We wrote something down and signed it. Hooray for us. That solves everything.
2869. Rachael Hines | May 12, 2008 at 9:06 pm
It is rediculous to think that people in the Council are trying to banish such a great cultural aspect of Chicago when I’m sure they have never been exposed to it.
Music is an art. It is something that a lot of people, old and young, treasure and its nonsense that people are trying to take that away from them.
Let the Chicago culture continue to thrive on the music it loves. Keep it alive and well.
2870. Aaron Marx | May 12, 2008 at 9:06 pm
Do these aldermen realize what’s at stake? Doing this would mean Chicago loses its soul. There’s so much diverse creativity that would suffer from this. Stop the ordinance.
2871. Andy Oloffson | May 12, 2008 at 9:06 pm
No good
2872. Eric Edwardson | May 12, 2008 at 9:06 pm
Chicago’s local venues are shutting down left and right. The last thing we need is this ordinance. Ive been in 3 local bands and 1 its hard enough to book shows in Illinois, 2 this ordinance basically ruins all bands hopes and dreams of someday getting signed. People playing music is there way of showing there expressions in life, and you cutting it off is basically ruining / maybe even ending their life. You wouldn’t end some innocent persons life? would you?
2873. Jake Daugherty | May 12, 2008 at 9:06 pm
Playing live isn’t only for the rich and successful, it’s for the passionate and involved. Don’t take this away from those who chose to play to a smaller more specific crowd.
2874. Jon Lindelsee | May 12, 2008 at 9:06 pm
As a performer and student going into venue management, hearing about this has greatly impacted me. What is Chicago thinking? Like many people have said, many local venues barley get by as it is and now they’re trying to do this? Lets speak up!
Sincerely,
Jon Lindelsee
2875. Raffael Coronelli | May 12, 2008 at 9:07 pm
As a member of a local band and an avid supporter of the local music scene, I find this ordinance to be completely outrageous and disgusting. This must be stopped if our local musical and artistic culture is to survive.
2876. Sarah Wainright | May 12, 2008 at 9:07 pm
There’s got to be a better solution. This ordinance will hurt Chicago’s vibrant music and theater culture. Please vote NO on this ordinance.
2877. liz cheong | May 12, 2008 at 9:07 pm
This is absolutely ridiculous. Chicago has become too big of a place for rich artistic talents, specifically music!
2878. Christina S. | May 12, 2008 at 9:07 pm
Chicago’s underground and small-venue scene is equally if not more prestigious than the city’s theatrical background. Not only are these venues more affordable for the average concert-goer, but they’re solely responsible for getting new music heard, something that is not always recognized by the city. So many groups have grown in popularity from Chicago, and they all started out at venues like Schubas and the Metro. If these venues are costing these groups an arm and a leg to book, and various other obstacles just to play, than our whole culture will go down the tubes.
Listen and Act. Do not rid the world of good music hailing from Chicago. Embrace it. Love it. It’s part of our own culture too. What would Chicago be without its venues? Not a Chicago I love and remember, that is.
2879. Antonio | May 12, 2008 at 9:07 pm
Chicago’s music scene has been a safe haven and proving ground for many bands. I speak as one of many who disagree with this ordinance. Please do not let this pass!
2880. Paul Rydberg | May 12, 2008 at 9:07 pm
I protest this ordinance and will not stand for its’ bias.
2881. Mervette | May 12, 2008 at 9:08 pm
A very adamant NO to passing this bill.
2882. Emily CHerepoc | May 12, 2008 at 9:08 pm
ridiculous.
2883. Jesse Mendoza | May 12, 2008 at 9:08 pm
The heart of local music beats an undying rhythm. Don’t let it die.
2884. Bianca Berger | May 12, 2008 at 9:09 pm
Stop this ordinance! It is no good!
2885. Casey Lee | May 12, 2008 at 9:09 pm
This needs to Stop.
2886. Jerome Austriaco | May 12, 2008 at 9:09 pm
This ordinance would be horrible. It protects big business at the expense of the small business owners and their small constituency that supports them.
2887. Letitia | May 12, 2008 at 9:09 pm
Chicago is such a diverse city with live music available any night of the week for all tastes & cultures. This ordinance would only deny hard working artists opportunities, and drive talent and those who patron their local establishments elsewhere. It is unfortunate that the City did not shut down E2 before this tragedy occurred, but it is not fair to punish smaller venues that already have been taking precautions for patron safety by making it impossible and infeasible to operate. This ordinance will do more harm than good.
2888. Ashley | May 12, 2008 at 9:09 pm
i agree. this ordinance is ridiculous. let’s save the music.
2889. Bradley Babendir | May 12, 2008 at 9:10 pm
why does chicago ruin something that is so great about it?
lets hope like hell it doesn’t pass
2890. Angel Alexander | May 12, 2008 at 9:10 pm
No way. Chicago’s music scene is amazing, they shouldn’t be allowed to take that away from us.
2891. John Moony | May 12, 2008 at 9:10 pm
This is one of the most Un-American ideas that I’ve heard in a long time… and that says a lot.
2892. Will Pickens | May 12, 2008 at 9:10 pm
This is a ridiculous. Please do not pass this as law.
2893. Joanne S. Sainvilier | May 12, 2008 at 9:10 pm
This is by far one of the worst things that could happen to Chicago in terms of culture, promotions, exposure, etc. As an avid concert-goer and supporter of underground acts and venues in and around Chicago, this will be detrimental to the fans, and also those who are homegrown performers. The city is full of immense talent, and we’d like for more talent to come here, but with this ordinance, you’re deterring that from happening. This will harm more than it will help, in my honest opinion. Please, don’t let this happen.
2894. Brett Gleason | May 12, 2008 at 9:10 pm
if this would’ve stopped fall out boy from becoming big, I wish this ordinance was passed a long time ago
2895. Harold Christie | May 12, 2008 at 9:11 pm
This is completely ridiculous. I believe this is a way to put small private-owned venues out of business and to let others flourish in a city that was founded on the individual’s ability to build. The smaller venues getting the short-end-of-the-stick are what gives much of Chicago it’s culture and diversity among it’s culture.
2896. Alex Hanas | May 12, 2008 at 9:11 pm
I dont even live in Chicago but i think all cities should have a music culture. Without music life is boring and meaningless. Plus there trying to shut down the small venues where bands get there breaks. There are some really good bands from the Chicago and they wouldnt be where they are today without starting at small venues. Most non-mainstream bands like playing in small venues. The music in small venues is alot better than in arenas.
2897. Gabe Hammersmith | May 12, 2008 at 9:11 pm
I think the city is severely under estimating the NEGATIVE financial impact of this ordinance.
2898. Adam Kinner | May 12, 2008 at 9:11 pm
Don’t let this happen. It’s madness. Charge the big guys, they’re the ones who make money anyway, not the small guys who go out on a limb for the business and the music.
2899. Jennifer Chiappetta | May 12, 2008 at 9:11 pm
If this goes into effect it will be a sad day for Chicago music and arts. One of the reasons I love this city so much is the multitude of live shows one can find in a night. It might be time for me to start looking for a new city that actually wants to embrace its culture, rather than destroy it, if this takes place. I love Chicago, but I love music more. We can’t let this happen.
2900. William Biddix | May 12, 2008 at 9:11 pm
Oh, piss all over this. I’m sick and tired of people always trying to do this. Art is an expression, and should be treated with the highest caliber of respect and passion.
2901. Katelyn Lathrop | May 12, 2008 at 10:11 pm
This is incredible. Seriously, how many people travel to Chicago just to see the amazing live performances that it offers? How many people each year visit the House of Blues Chicago just to see their favorite band? How is going to effect the way Chicago is depicted to those who don’t live here?
Put my name on that list.
2902. Matt Faleni | May 12, 2008 at 10:11 pm
This is absolutely ridiculous.
2903. Scott Morrow | May 12, 2008 at 10:11 pm
This seems like a petty way for the city to drum up some cash, and it would do nothing but hurt Chicago’s vibrant independent music scene.
2904. Zoe | May 12, 2008 at 10:11 pm
This is terrible and I’m completely against it!!
2905. Colin Schaufuss | May 12, 2008 at 10:12 pm
Do not let this pass. Whats the point of this even?
2906. Mikeskills | May 12, 2008 at 10:12 pm
Thats garbage. The local music is movin rite now. It would be a shame to see it slowed down by some political B.S. were do i sign
2907. Joel Kriske | May 12, 2008 at 10:12 pm
This ordinance is would be a huge blow to the young and underground arts, community, as well as the experimental and less “popular” performing artists of the city. These communities are where the larger and more established arts groups are born and inspired. This bill seems to be both a money grab by the city, as well as another attempt to relegate the arts to corporate culture and “big money” (see clear channel, etc.). PLEASE DO NOT VOTE FOR THE PASSAGE OF IT!!!
2908. Jason Dieguez | May 12, 2008 at 10:12 pm
Acity like chicago should never be stripped of any entertainment events, if the counsil does this it might as well do it to the sports teams too! To pass this law would be disgrace to the music scene that Chicago is known for.
2909. Mike Ruby | May 12, 2008 at 10:12 pm
I protest this piece of legislation. Save Chicago music!
2910. Paul Martin | May 12, 2008 at 10:12 pm
You are going to have even more unemployment, a loss to the tax base, and what is worse is that a huge part of what makes Chicago great is the easy access to great local entertainment without the huge price tag that comes with a trip to Manhattan for the same things…. not everybody wants to just sit in a sports bar and watch a giant TV and not everybody can afford tickets to Wicked or the James Taylor concert at Ravinia. And sometimes the people who can afford them find they’re not available and need a Plan B. if you don’t think passing and enforcing this ordinance as law will take a huge toll on tourism, not to mention downtown corporate events and the downtown wedding industry you are wrong…… please take some time to consider some alternatives……
2911. Reed Schmaedeke | May 12, 2008 at 10:12 pm
For those of you in the City Council who have your heads in the clouds, Chicago is know the World over for being a hot bed of new and emmrging artists of all forms. From blues, house , jazz and a powerful Indie music scene, Chicago is revered and respected. Please do not let the corporations push out the very venue owners who have created such a rich history. Leave well enough alone!
2912. Alex Ohlson | May 12, 2008 at 10:12 pm
This is horrible. The city is meant to help expose those who don’t have mainstream attention and this is going to pretty much shut down the entire scene. New bands don’t have the cash to do this and need to get a greater audience. The city can’t shut down everything so great. The city needs this as the best art comes from those who don’t have everything. The city thrives on the indie scene, but doesn’t recognize it. If this happens Chicago could turn down the next U2, Red Hot Chili Peppers, or Foo Fighters. Something needs to be done. It is unfair that bigger venues have no problems, yet smaller venues where indie strives will be devastated.
2913. Joshua Morin | May 12, 2008 at 10:13 pm
Why take away such an integral part of Chicago lifestyle? What makes anyone of them think that Chicagoans will just sit here and watch our friends bands, their hard work and their drive, go under because they can’t AFFORD to play music at shows? Ludicrous.
2914. William Biddix | May 12, 2008 at 10:13 pm
Oh, piss on this. Art is an expression, and should be treaded with the highest caliber of respect.
2915. grazyna auguscik | May 12, 2008 at 10:13 pm
Please save Chicago’s culture and a lot of talented people. Human being can’t exist without culture-music and kinds of arts. Someone who brought this idea must be emotionally damages. We can help him to bring him for ours performances. People, you don’t understand, that all of us will be dead without culture specially those who want to cut arts from our life.
2916. Mars Global | May 12, 2008 at 10:13 pm
I thought this was the land of the free!!!!
Now your gonna tax me on my choice of muzak!!
2917. Tyler V. | May 12, 2008 at 10:13 pm
This is a terrible idea.
Maybe good in theory, actually, no, still terrible.
Please do not pass it.
2918. Claire | May 12, 2008 at 10:13 pm
This is ridiculous. Stifling the arts will not be beneficial to anyone. I am completely opposed to this ridiculous ordinance and I hope it fails to pass.
2919. Sherri | May 12, 2008 at 10:13 pm
I drive over 3 hours several times per month from Michigan to participate in musical and cultural activities in Chicago. I spend money on hotel rooms, restaurants, shopping, et cetera. I’m sure I’m not the only one. Don’t bite the hand that feeds you. the hand that helps to keep the Chicago arts scene viable.
2920. KeithFold | May 12, 2008 at 10:13 pm
I stand 100% against this ordinance.
2921. Stephanie Smith | May 12, 2008 at 10:14 pm
Let’s make it easier to be creative and promote music and the
arts, rather than penalizing artists. I strongly disagree with
this ordinance.
2922. Russell Wagner | May 12, 2008 at 10:15 pm
Don’t kill independent music.
2923. Michelle Weinberg, Atty | May 12, 2008 at 10:15 pm
This ordinance is an onerous burden on the wrong people and venues. The venues are already licensed to host music and serve liquor. If there are dangerous establishments, the city should enforce the laws already on the books, including maximum occupancy and proper fire exits, etc.
2924. Robyn Levine | May 12, 2008 at 10:16 pm
I’m opposed to the ordinance!
2925. Jamie Hoggson | May 12, 2008 at 10:16 pm
Stop this ordinance will destroy the hard work of artists who move to Chicago from all around the country so that we can develop and grow as comedians, musicians, writers, and actors. This will close the doors of so many venues who work our asses off with no compensation just so we can entertain and get better. BACK OFF!!!
2926. janet f. | May 12, 2008 at 10:16 pm
Terrible idea. Although I understand the need for concern and action after the E2 and Great White incidents, stifling the entire independent music scene is not the way to accomplish the goal.
2927. Lara Miller | May 12, 2008 at 10:16 pm
What a terrible idea! This ordinance will single handedly remove two of Chicago’s proudest cultural institutions – our indie music scene and small theater/performance scene. There is no way that small venues, theaters and bands could hope to survive here – and really wonderful performers from outside the city would never be able to come. This effects the heart and soul of what Chicago is. PLEASE DO NOT PASS THIS ORDINANCE!!
2928. Amira Malley | May 12, 2008 at 10:16 pm
I support the local scene so much and I feel the ordinace will ruin the amazing scene we do have. I mean musically we have so many great bands coming through or from here. Honesty why must we stifle this with this law. Its really helping no one and all it does is make the city richer. Leave our culture alone. Just let us have it.
2929. Jim Mohaupt | May 12, 2008 at 10:16 pm
Ordinances like this one is what is ruining America. They try and make it look all “stand up”, but in the end everyone knows what the City council is trying to do, and its wrong….How can you make it next to impossible for people to enjoy the art of local music? This will completely ruin the scene if it passes and they know it. DO NOT LET THIS BILL PASS!!!!!!!!
2930. Mike Finn | May 12, 2008 at 10:16 pm
This is infuriating! I can’t comprehend the thinking behind this ordinance. Is the City trying to choke out culture?
Everybody spread the word and stop this from going into effect!
2931. Phillip | May 12, 2008 at 10:17 pm
I live down the street from Double Door, and not too far from Schuba’s. Please don’t pass this law.
2932. Paul Yarnold, PhD | May 12, 2008 at 10:17 pm
I have been thinking more and more recently that I have wasted enough of my life in this foul weather, third-world infrastructure, over-taxed, parochial cow-town… Without entertainment I can use my extra time to surf the web and look for a nice place to live!
2933. Jason Lubow | May 12, 2008 at 10:17 pm
It is my belief that the passing of this ordinance will not only stifle this city’s unique, vibrant, responsible and professional artistic community – it will severely tarnish Chicago’s reputation as a world-class city overall. Coupled with the CTA, I doubt the Olympics would ever be hosted here.
2934. johnnyrockwell | May 12, 2008 at 10:17 pm
Live performance forever.
2935. Chris Carey | May 12, 2008 at 10:18 pm
What a wasteland this would leave of the Chicago music scene. Once lost it would take years upon years to get back presuming the ordinance was repealed — if indeed the music scene ever could be truly restored.
2936. Jake | May 12, 2008 at 10:18 pm
music adds to life and if we dont experience different aspects of it why have it at all?
2937. Mike | May 12, 2008 at 10:19 pm
PLEASE DO NOT PASS THIS ORDINANCE!!!!!! It’s hard enough being an independent musician without the city passing laws making it harder. Most of us are hard working artists that are barely making by with the little bit of money we make on shows, and with the economy getting worse and cd sales plummeting, now you want to kill the live music business too?
PLEASE BE REASONABLE!!!!!!
Mike
MASS HYSTERIA
2938. Elizabeth Nelson | May 12, 2008 at 10:19 pm
DON”T LET THIS PASS! It will be a serious blow to the Chicago music and theatre scene. Chicago is THE BEST city in the United States b/c of its cultural scene!
2939. Andrew Cieslak | May 12, 2008 at 10:19 pm
Please don’t ruin something that makes this city as great as it is. Without the myriad options we have to see shows every week, I might as well go live somewhere else.
2940. Mimi Chubb | May 12, 2008 at 10:19 pm
What an absolutely stupid idea. This must not happen.
2941. Mike Abdul | May 12, 2008 at 10:19 pm
Chicago, as a burgeoning and ever-evolving home to underground and large bands alike, cannot afford to deal such a sharp blow to the promoters, fans, and bands as this ordinance would deliver.
Chicago is known as a cultural melting pot, and that culture is in large part rooted in our small, yet thriving, music scene.
This ordinance would effectively uproot a facet of life in Chicago that has been crucial in establishing the city as a world-class home to local, national, and international acts.
2942. Larissa Gann | May 12, 2008 at 10:20 pm
This is outrageous. Chicago needs the music scene like Romeo needs Juliet.
2943. Laura | May 12, 2008 at 10:20 pm
Our city has always been a place that has thrives off of creativity and expression. Please don’t take away our inspiration. Please don’t ruin Chicago.
2944. Chris Noonan | May 12, 2008 at 10:20 pm
This is a terrible idea that will drive musicians, artists, their patrons and fans, as well as myriad other associated businesses out of the city. This will not make anyone safer and will cause a drastic decrease in the diversity of culture to be found on any given night in this great city. Urge everyone you know to contact their alderman, this is an affront on so many levels that we truly need to make our voices heard.
2945. Jesse Weinberg | May 12, 2008 at 10:20 pm
C’mon peoples, keep Chicago classy. Let us play.
2946. Will B. | May 12, 2008 at 10:21 pm
What a horrible idea. It shouldn’t be passed, damn politicians.
2947. Morgan Moghabghab | May 12, 2008 at 10:21 pm
I think this is ridiculous. I don’t live in Chicago, but the entire reason I’m planning to move there is for the music scene. I want to be able to go to the places where my favorite bands started out. If all of that changes, then there is absolutely no reason for me to move half way across the country to Chicago.
2948. Andrew Spalding | May 12, 2008 at 10:21 pm
This is completely outrageous. Pathetic. Something like this would tear a lot of music scenes a part and destroy/hide a lot of hidden talent in chicago.
2949. Kyle Williams | May 12, 2008 at 10:21 pm
This ordinance can not be passed! Its ridiculous and aimed to prevent social gatherings of subcultures. This is a serious infringment on our freedoms!
Having the event promoter fingerprinted and background checked? How about we just go back 70 years and live under Stalin’s rule of the Soviet Union?
This isn’t just about keeping our venues safe people…the government is slowly trying to control our lives more and more. We can’t keep letting them take these types of steps towards completely taking away our freedoms granted by the bill of rights! I’m sure the Chicago police force recently being required to carry M-16 assault rifles (to combat bigger stronger enemies…) has nothing to do with this either.
Wake up people and do the math!
2950. Seth Johnson | May 12, 2008 at 10:21 pm
This is the dumbest idea in history. Being that I myself am in a local band this law would oppress our ability to express ourselves in a positive way. When small bands get a chance to play in front of any crowd no matter what size it means they are aloud to express themselves in positive ways and shows Chicagos true creativity and love for the fine arts. If this law gets passed it will mean the end of self expression as we know it! I will admit some events are unsafe but most are not unsafe. If smaller venues aren’t aloud to have such events solely on there size it prevents the bands from expressing themselves in positive ways instead of negative such as violence against themselves or others and allowing them to express themselves, if they can not do that because of there politicians what does that show the people? It shows that they have no real interest in the chicago music scene and self expression.
I think I am speaking for everyone involved in the chicago music scene by saying:
PLEASE DO NOT PASS THIS ORDINANCE!!!!!!
thank you,
local musician, Seth Johnson
2951. Dylan Bean | May 12, 2008 at 10:21 pm
This ordinance is the definition of a bureaucratic overreaction. How, pray tell, does fingerprinting a promoter help to improve anything? If this is passed, it will choke out local acts and beginning bands, much like the one that I’m involved with.
I sincerely hope that the city of Chicago shoots this down. If not, Chicago will not be the city it once was.
2952. CARL | May 12, 2008 at 10:21 pm
CHICAGO HAS BEEN THE BIRTH PLACE OF MANY REKNOWNED ARTIST AND TALENT PERSONS. DO NOT STOP THE TALENTED AND CREATIVE OPPORTUNITIES THAT HAVE FOR DECADES EXISTED IN THIS WONDERFUL CITY BY MAKING LAWS THAT PROHIBIT OUR YOUTH AND EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS THAT BREED OUR FUTURE YOUTH FOR SUCCESS.
2953. Wayne | May 12, 2008 at 10:21 pm
this is targeting the wrong type of clubs and theaters. It’s wrong and will damage the cities cultural clout.
2954. Prestonanda | May 12, 2008 at 10:21 pm
I moved to Chicago because of its creatively vibrant, yet mostly down-to-earth, music and art scenes. And I love and cherish some of the peer-communities based around creative expression. Chicago – and the world – needs more of these small, home-grown, creative outlets, not just the big “Looptopia”-style gatherings. Jumping through beaurocratic hoops stifles the creative imagination and only means small events will be completely stifled, or go further underground where it is often LESS safe. Please, keep things the way they are, or LOOSEN the rules. A vibrant city needs MORE creative expression, not less.
2955. michael rittgers | May 12, 2008 at 10:21 pm
i dont get it! why force out such a positive piece of the CHICAGO puzzle. open your eyes and ears people! whats the guestion?
peace, mike
2956. Marc Riordan | May 12, 2008 at 10:22 pm
This is a direct attack on culture and community and it has to be stopped. As a jazz musician and concert promoter, I feel very strongly that, if passed, this ordinance will demoralize and dishearten performing artists and their audiences all over Chicago.
2957. Vic Bondi | May 12, 2008 at 10:22 pm
A great work of art can change the world and i really cant think of a time the world needed changing more than right now
2958. Lindsay Porter | May 12, 2008 at 10:22 pm
Emerging artists flock to Chicago because this is a place where it is still possible to create music, theatre and art without too much regulation. This ordinance will ensure that Chicago becomes an impossible place to create work on a smaller scale. Chicago is the home of the blues, jazz, hiphop and the alt country scene…all smaller niche markets. An ordinance like this one will ensure that all we hear is big names making pop music, and the music scene in Chicago will be like what Applebees is to restaurants. All mass market and no creativity. Please stop the madness and keep this from passing.
2959. Madison Riddle | May 12, 2008 at 10:22 pm
As a person who does not even live in Chicago but greatly appreciates the music scene and the environment that Chicago has to offer the world, I believe that the passing of this law will be incredibly detrimental to the well being of society. Smaller venues help to promote the music industry and are beneficial to all involved parties. Instead of having arena only venues, these small venues are what make the Chicago communities unique.
2960. Jeff Klinger | May 12, 2008 at 10:23 pm
Dear President of Chicago, Please dont allow this ordinance. If you would have enacted such policies 20 years ago there would be no such thing as Blues music or Improvisational Comedy.
2961. Allie Early | May 12, 2008 at 10:23 pm
As a student, I would be truly disappointed if this ordinance is passed.
2962. Jenna Kellett | May 12, 2008 at 10:23 pm
I disprove of this ordinance.
2963. sam stoxen | May 12, 2008 at 10:23 pm
is this a joke?
i thought culture was good thing.
2964. Kyle | May 12, 2008 at 10:23 pm
I fully oppose the ordinance.
I pride myself on being an artist from Chicago because of the fact that the independent scene is so rich with diversity and talent. If this ordinance is passed, it will do nothing productive, only squander the drive and motivation for the vibrant independent and creative culture our city has developed. This also goes along with the opposition to the mural near Milwaukee & Western being buffed because of others’ opposition to artistic culture.
2965. monte laforti | May 12, 2008 at 10:23 pm
daley!!!
2966. jeff Sidor | May 12, 2008 at 10:24 pm
There is no good reason for this ordinance to pass. It does very little to improve safety and the impact on developing musicians will be dreadful. Don’t pass this ordinance!
2967. Diane Jaderberg | May 12, 2008 at 10:24 pm
I oppose this ordinance. Let’s keep diversity in the city.
2968. David Szura | May 12, 2008 at 10:24 pm
please don’t put this into effect, music is a huge part in my life and i live for going to shows please don’t take that away from me as well as thousands of others.
2969. Patrick Murphy Jr | May 12, 2008 at 10:24 pm
This is unbelievably outrageous! I cannot believe that Chicago would want to take away something that means so much to so many people. A city that is in a Country that is supposed to care about its citizens. and it pushes them aside for the purposes of making money. It’s completely insane and ludicrous. Land of the free has no meaning when everything we hold dear to us is being taxed, raped by political nonsense or just plain taken away. It’s not fair for people to have to rely on big music promoters like ClearChannel to decide what it is we can see and what events we can be a part of. This goes against everything in the constitution and there’s come a time when people with too much power need to be cut down. Don’t abuse your position by stealing the heart of music from people who value it so much. The vital signs of music, art, theatre and anything related are in our little venues, our coffee bars, our corner bars and our little “holes-in-the-wall”.
If it weren’t for most of the live events in these places most people would not even come into the city. I know I wouldn’t and I’m sure many agree!
2970. Adrienne Skandera | May 12, 2008 at 10:24 pm
I’ve always thought the greatest things Chicago has to offer are it’s rich culture antdatmosphere, and particularly it’s music scene. It is the very essence of the city. This ordinance would destroy that scene as we know it.
2971. David Hymen | May 12, 2008 at 10:25 pm
Is this for real?
Just as Chicago starts to live up to its name as the second city, and in my opinion has become better than the first, we go and do somethiing this unfathomable.
Politics are there to serve the people, not to wag chins until something controversial comes out of it, just for fun. How can this be for the people?
2972. Aric Cardwell | May 12, 2008 at 10:25 pm
These small venues are a must!! Without them small bands can’t even find an audience, or even get scouted for a record deal. This law would eliminate chicago grown bands as we know it!
2973. James Farn | May 12, 2008 at 10:25 pm
This law-making venture will not only be destroying the ever-important and powerful underground music scene in Chicago, but hurting local business interests as well. Whatever money is hoped to be made through these bureaucratic advances will be lost tenfold in sales of in-house and adjacent bars and restaurants, not to mention other window shops. If the large deal of tourism that is drawn to the underground Chicago music shows is stopped, all these local businesses are sure to shoulder the load of the shortage of income. Places like Wicker Park wouldn’t be Wicker Park if it weren’t for places like The Note, The Double Door, The Subterranean, and countless other Chicago landmarks just like these locations.
2974. liv | May 12, 2008 at 10:25 pm
This is horrible. The citizens of Chicago cannot let it happen.
2975. marco garcia | May 12, 2008 at 10:25 pm
Please do not hinder people’s desire for expression. The city needs to figure out another revenue raiser; this is not a good idea. What happened to all that skyway money?!
2976. michael ryan | May 12, 2008 at 10:26 pm
don’t let this unconstitutional ordinance pass.
2977. Jordan | May 12, 2008 at 10:26 pm
Please do not pass this.
2978. Shoshana Ostrum | May 12, 2008 at 10:26 pm
Chicago has such a beautiful array of culture- be it theatre, music, art, or food! How is this even considered acceptable?
2979. Laurie Koeller | May 12, 2008 at 10:26 pm
if the music scene is gone then Chicago will never be the same. So many amazing musicians live and play here and its so awesome to go and see them preform even no its changing and more bands are coming out and Chicago would get less people coming here over breaks because it would be gone so please keep the music scene the same cause thats all most people are looking forward to over their breaks!
2980. Percy Hatcherson | May 12, 2008 at 10:26 pm
I am a music fan, and I believe Chicago is currently the best city in the nation for live music. I believe it can stay that way. Chicago may not be recognized as a big music magnet by many others from around the country, but that is all in the way it is presented. The magic of Chicago’s music scene comes from its independent spirit, and all of the small, up and coming acts that are born here and are attracted here from all over the world.
I support live music in Chicago, and I want it to flourish. I think it is the best thing for the city and for the local music community. The new Promoter Ordinance, if passed, will severely damage an incredible music scene that otherwise could keep on growing and improving. Independent music venues and promoters are at the heart of Chicago’s music scene, and this ordinance could put many of them out of business for good or at least force a loss in quality.
Please consider my plea to strongly oppose the Promoter Ordinance this Wednesday and stand up for Chicago’s live music community.
Thank you.
2981. Daniel Webster | May 12, 2008 at 10:26 pm
As a local musician in Chicago, I am greatly saddened by government’s attempt to not only regulate independent art in this city, but to turn the local music scene into a revenue-generating machine for the city of Chicago. This ordinance will essentially put hundreds of independent artists out of business and literally crash the music scene here. DJs, bands, comedians, actors, and solo artists are all affected. Acts that play intimate venues will no longer be able to afford to play shows, it’s as simple as that. This city has just seen some of the most violent months in terms of crime and gun violence in its recent history, and we’re trying to pass this silly ordinance? You have to be kidding me.
2982. Christoper Nelson | May 12, 2008 at 10:26 pm
Complete B.S. would be a tragedy if this passed.
2983. Rachel Viniar | May 12, 2008 at 10:26 pm
I’m not from Chicago – in fact, I’ve never even been there. But Chicago is known to me, as a theatre and music enthusiast, as the birthplace of a musical revolution. The Chicago music scene continues to give us great music, and I refuse to let this happen to the music I love. Don’t do this!
2984. Julia Tsaoussis | May 12, 2008 at 10:26 pm
This is blasphemic. As a young art appreciator (age 13), it saddens me how the egoistic legislation of our city is oblivious as to how greatly the music scene is going to affect Chicago for years to come. Frankly, if we so greatly desire to succumb as a blatant abyss of pencil-pushing brain-drains and deem it our culture, then I think that the younger generations, who are believed to take the future into brightest account, would take the first step into bringing our great city that way.
And that’s not what we want, is it?
All I’m saying is, rage against the machine, yo.
Put my name on the list. :]
~Julia
2985. Chris Goldrick | May 12, 2008 at 10:26 pm
This is a really, really ill-considered ordinance. Don’t pass it.
2986. Kevin Stanton | May 12, 2008 at 10:26 pm
Please don’t let the cultural life of this great city be destroyed by greed!
2987. samantha rosenberg | May 12, 2008 at 10:27 pm
this law will stop culture.not crimials
2988. Tina Kauffman | May 12, 2008 at 10:27 pm
This honestly deeply saddens me, I am really into the music scene in philadelphia, i was planning on moving to chicago in a couple months, this has me reconsidering.
2989. gia | May 12, 2008 at 10:27 pm
ridiculous.
2990. tony bilbrey | May 12, 2008 at 10:27 pm
why dont they tax cig’s another 4 bucks
leave broke musicians alone
2991. Erica Phillips | May 12, 2008 at 10:27 pm
This is outrageous and unfair. The Chicago arts scene is supportive to it’s members and attractive to visitors – how could we possibly stifle that?
2992. Matt Bacon | May 12, 2008 at 10:27 pm
I am not native to Chicago, I am just visiting from San Francisco for a few weeks. But I can tell you that as a member of the greatest city in the world, San Francisco, there is no worse thing that Chicago could do, my own city dumped over 1000 people from insane asylums all over the city and there are now more homeless people in my seven mile by seven mile city than there are in probably the entire STATE of illinois and i would prefer that to a city where an act like this had been passed.
2993. William Bartolucci | May 12, 2008 at 10:27 pm
Learning of this proposed ordinance made me sick. How can the powers that be claim they strive to make Chicago a world class city and then try create rules to strip our city of a great part of its culture. Chicago without these venues might as well be Schaumburg. Please do not let this happen. I do not want to move!!!
2994. Nicole Ladner | May 12, 2008 at 10:27 pm
For a city that prides it’s self on having so many enriching cultures within it’s limits I cannot begin to fathom an ordinance that would stifle one of the greatest things about Chicago, it’s eclectic music scene. Not only will it jolt the creativity of this amazing city but it will discourage artists from bringing their music and message to such an opportune urban audience.
I add this for the city council members: By voting for this ordinance you will hurt Chicago’s reputation in the overall music scene and in the end it will take away from city revenue. You will also be telling us, your urban youngsters, that you don’t care, that you don’t care about our passion and love for music. No good will come of this petty thought and it will only help to erode our city’s beautiful creativity.
2995. Alyssa Barnes | May 12, 2008 at 10:27 pm
Please, I beg of you, DO NOT DO THIS!! I have so many friends who are musicians in this fine city who would either be forced to move somewhere where they would be as appreciated as they are in Chicago right now or worse yet give up their music!! We cannot let such a thing happen!! I have a musician friend who lives in New York but has said that he absolutely LOVES playing in Chicago because of all the great bands and vibes this city has! If you were to pass this ordinance, he wouldn’t be able to come back to play! I would lose the two-to-three times a year that we would be able to get together and wander the city before meeting back up at Metro or Hot House or Park West to hear such wonderful music. Please, for the love of the music and this city, PLEASE reconsider this and do NOT let it happen!! Think of all the money due to tourists coming to hear bands they love other businesses would be loosing.
2996. Sara Levine | May 12, 2008 at 10:28 pm
completely absurd…besides our entertainment being ripped from us, but an insane amount of local business that would normally rely on live music as a part of their profits can be completely destroyed…
2997. Brett Mytys | May 12, 2008 at 10:28 pm
I lived on the northside for 2 years and went to 2-3 shows a week back then. I now live in Grand Rapids, MI, and the one aspect that I miss most about Chicago is the music scene. I plan on moving back within the next 5 years, and I’m praying that I move back to the city that embraces their superb live music scene. Please don’t pass this legislation.
2998. Kaycee | May 12, 2008 at 10:28 pm
Passing this ordinance will destroy Chicago’s musical culture. This is ridiculous.
2999. Victor Panfil | May 12, 2008 at 10:28 pm
Small venues promote the local music and give a completely unmatched experience for enjoying music. This would be an outrage to the industry in Chicago, and it would make the city look ridiculous in the eyes of other local cultures.
3000. Bill Kavanagh | May 12, 2008 at 10:28 pm
I have been trying to put down some cogent thoughts on this subject for two days now and all I can come up with is how insane and short-sighted this ordinance is. For its own good (read: money/revenue) the city should be doing all it can to grow its music scene, not kill it. This is a sad, sad time to be a music lover in this city.
3001. cody sandel | May 12, 2008 at 10:28 pm
this is perposterous!!!!
3002. Patrick Bragg | May 12, 2008 at 10:28 pm
This sux. my band wants to perfomr at some of these places and if this passes, were screwed! we cant afford half of the things on their and we cant promote ourselves! Why r they targeting the smaller venues cuz the people who ran E2 couldn’t do their thing right?
3003. Brie | May 12, 2008 at 10:28 pm
Everyone should have the right to enjoy music, whether a performer or a music lover. Letting this ordance pass is practically stopping the Chicago community and others enjoy music the way it always has and always will be enjoyed. As far as I’m aware of Chicago has the best music scenes in the world. Dont let this happen!
3004. Ben Carney | May 12, 2008 at 10:28 pm
This is a very very bad idea.
something should be done in the exact opposite direction of this ordinance. let small music thrive. please.
3005. melly fenderella | May 12, 2008 at 10:29 pm
they cant do this. they simply just cant.
chicago CULTURE is the MUSIC SCENE
i promote shows for small HIGHSCHOOL BANDS
its hard enough to find places for us to play and under 21 shows we can get booked into
if the small venues dissapear, were not going to have a chance anymore!
3006. Parker Dodson | May 12, 2008 at 10:29 pm
Outrageous. There is enough difficulty out there already trying to peel people off their televisions and computers to come see live entertainment. This draconian measure is a further attempt to eliminate environments where minds can meet outside the controlled conditions that the leaders of our heavily censored society deem “safe.” We must do whatever possible to stop this…
3007. rachel | May 12, 2008 at 10:29 pm
UNBELIEVABLE!!! NO NO NO NO! I would move away in a heart beat if this happened!!
THIS WOULD BE AWFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
3008. Lindsay Nielsen | May 12, 2008 at 10:29 pm
I was born in Chicago, and have lived my entire life here. Music and theater are a very large part of my life, and I would be devastated to see either one of them go. Such aspects of art are what define our culture, our city, our personalities that merge together to form Chicago’s welcoming heritage. Our city was raised on music and art, much of which we gained from the World’s Fair so many centuries ago. Taking away this valuable asset to native “Chicago-ans” and the tourists that come here to our city simply because we do embrace such vivacious life through the arts is asking us to forfeit the very grounds this city was raised on. And frankly, I’m not willing to let that happen.
Our laws and bylaws talk to us, teach us about freedom of expression, which we have come to do through aesthetics. How are we to consider ourselves free if we have no way to express ourselves?? Because, to me, it seems as though this newfound “freedom” will cost us more than it will teach us to grow. So much for making a better life for the next and upcoming generations…
3009. Ivan Bamford | May 12, 2008 at 10:30 pm
VERY scary..
3010. Mewalton | May 12, 2008 at 10:30 pm
As one who’s livelihood, passion and reason for living are based on culture this is a very serious issue. Additionally, Chicago is and has been known to be a culturally rich city. Passing an ordinance with such limitations will definitely decrease the money that is brought into the city because of a decrease in cultural events throughout the city. Just let us be!
3011. Trisha | May 12, 2008 at 10:30 pm
I strongly oppose this ordinance.
Please vote NO!
3012. Linda Lofstrom | May 12, 2008 at 10:31 pm
As an artist, independent producer and art curator, the proposed promoter’s ordinance and its associated licensing fees would ruin me financially – not to mention halt the ability of an artistic community to hold events that serve to celebrate creativity and help foster a sense of community. That community is the Chicago Burning Man Community… a collective that took a very active role in the recent Looptopia, helping to orchestrate the Underground Art School, assisting in and creating spontaneous art and music all along the riverfront… bringing fire performance to enthralled audiences. The events that we hold as a community nurture this kind of creative spirit and the promoter’s license would kill our ability to hold these events, ultimately stifling art, culture, creativity and community.
3013. Steve Sims | May 12, 2008 at 10:31 pm
If local bands have no way to play in the city, it would kill a very amazing music scene and a very important part of chicagos culture. Keep them open! we’ve all already had to deal with the death of the fireside bowl and the bottom lounge. please let us keep the few places that still have these events on a regular basis! local musical talent has the same right as every big play, musical, high profile band, or orchestra to be heard and seen.
3014. Eliot Carney | May 12, 2008 at 10:31 pm
I just wanted to lend my support. I also called and left a message for my alderman voicing my concerns. Hopefully there is still enough time to do something! Good luck!
3015. Jack Storm | May 12, 2008 at 10:31 pm
I am disappointed with the direction Chicago and its lawmakers have been taking in recent years. Chicago is no longer the city that I once believed it to be. It made some headway, years ago, by allowing outdoor seating at restaurants and cafes. But, that too, has lent itself to the corruption which seems to have overtaken this city. I’m afraid that this new, proposed legislation will be of benefit only to the most wealthy of Chicagoans and the underlying corruption of city workers. I am hopeful that you will not pass this legislation.
3016. jim sinicki | May 12, 2008 at 10:31 pm
My name is Jim, I play bass in a band called Leah Jee & The boys, a band that has played Chicago many a times and has many plans to return.
I’m originally from Milwaukee,WI and I just wanted to say, even though I’m not from Chicago I know first hand what this music scene is all about. It’s not about drugs, alcahol, fighting or getting laid. It’s about going out with your friends, having a good time, getting a few drinks and escaping from the reality of your daily 9-5 routine. This country can not afford to lose another music scene, ESPECIALLY one as good as chicago’s.
When I was a young kid I fell into a lot of trouble until I discovered live music. I spent most of my high school years at concert venues, not just the big ones… a lot of local concerts, and I know there’s a lot of kids out there in the same boat today! If you pass this law, you’re taking it all away from them and putting them back on the streets, and into trouble.
Please don’t do this, it’s a big mistake!
Keep fighting this, don’t stop… We need to make our voices heard!!!!
3017. Molly Keenan | May 12, 2008 at 10:31 pm
Why would you take away peoples chance to share their talents? Why would you take away their ability to share their passion with Chicago???
It makes no sense. So many bands and artists have come from Chicago. They would have never made it with these laws. Do not chose to hold people down. Everyone deserves their chance to shine.
DO NOT ALLOW THE ORDINANCE! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE hear us out!!!
3018. Corinna Nix | May 12, 2008 at 10:31 pm
This bill must not go through I understand what they are trying to do but it needs to be rewritten to exclude independent artists and bands. This bill is not protecting the musicians and it must be stopped. Please add my name to the petition
3019. David Smolen | May 12, 2008 at 10:32 pm
I myself am I local musician and this angers me so much to see that the city I grew up in, is trying to tear apart what I’ve been working so hard for these past couple of years. Now I can’t perform and play my music for the local scene because I don’t have permission to do so? This is completely ridiculous. I love Chicago, but I’m sorry, this is completely idiotic.
3020. Andrew Rafacz | May 12, 2008 at 10:32 pm
The scene pretty much sucks already so lets not destroy it totally.
3021. Cameron Eric Shifflet | May 12, 2008 at 10:32 pm
This can not happen. its so good to see that so many people agree.
To many good bands artist and good people come from this scene or culture. I sincerely hope this law dose not get passed.
3022. Christina Georgi | May 12, 2008 at 10:32 pm
This ordinance is preposterous and I strongly oppose it! Please don’t kill Chicago’s cultural scene, some of us depend on it. I agree with the individuals who have urged you to listen to the public before passing something so detrimental.
3023. Tim Kinsella | May 12, 2008 at 10:32 pm
Without a vital underground to vampire cultural signifiers from how will the ad agencies know how to market their wares? A free-flow of information and expression at an immediate street level is in everyone’s best interest.
3024. mark c | May 12, 2008 at 10:32 pm
We can’t let this happen ..!!! and if it does .. how can anybody or anything positive come out of this city..
3025. C. Webb | May 12, 2008 at 10:32 pm
This is insane! Music & musicians will be hurt. Chicago will loose precious avenues of cultural expression. For what? So the city can make a few more bucks. Any politician who votes for this should be fired.
3026. Mike S. | May 12, 2008 at 10:33 pm
Wow… to call this ordinance completely and utterly absurd is an understatement. I can’t imagine not having the experience of watching local bands growing up at the Metro and other venues. Though as a suburban guy, I am sure my town, Aurora, as well as ever other decent size suburb would love for this to pass as all the shows would begin to migrate to the burbs, bringing revenue and perhaps new venues.
3027. Ryan O'Neal | May 12, 2008 at 10:33 pm
i strongly disagree with this ordinance and sincerely hope that Chicago’s reputation of such incredible and nurturing support for the arts will continue.
3028. Michelle | May 12, 2008 at 10:33 pm
As a regular visitor to the Chicago area, i extremely enjoy the music & art scene. I find this to be a total injustice to the artists & the city itself. Please don’t let this ordinance pass!
3029. Alpha Stewart | May 12, 2008 at 10:33 pm
Having grown up in Chicago and being a part time musician, I feel that the wording of this ordinance will do more harm to the rich music culture that helps make Chicago what it is than correct any problems.
It similar to saying “Gee, drag strip racing is happening in our city. Lets ban driving unless it’s a family car (designation: having a child seat in the back)”.
Bad idea.
3030. Brian Kelley | May 12, 2008 at 10:33 pm
Coming from Virginia, and growing up in my teens as a big fan of bands like the Smashing Pumpkins and and the electronic music that comes from Chicago and Detroit, I have to say that Chicago should be very proud of the musical legacy it gives to the rest of the country and abroad. For the music lover who doesn’t live in the area, putting harsh live music event laws into effect sounds like a city that is ignorant of one of the ways that Chicago stays in esteem.
3031. Taylor Bennett | May 12, 2008 at 10:34 pm
This is just insane, if this passes I don’t know where I would travel to see my favorite band. It would never be the same Chicago to me without the Metro or Double Doors.
3032. Carre | May 12, 2008 at 10:34 pm
This is horrible. Why does the city want to hurt the art community? The city gets significant economic contributions from the thriving cultural landscape. Do we know what this ordinance will mean for small or not-for-profit art galleries and other alternative art spaces?
3033. Alison Li | May 12, 2008 at 10:34 pm
Liability insurance? That’s ridiculous! You can’t have this bill passed!!!!! No way!
3034. Amy Zuck | May 12, 2008 at 10:34 pm
Don’t take this away from Chicago. I can’t understand what they are thinking. The city will lose money, people will move away and soon the Windy City will be desolate without the creativity the fine citizens of Chicago provide. Please don’t take away our culture! Put my name on the list please!
3035. Faith Ferguson | May 12, 2008 at 10:34 pm
It appears to me that if this goes into effect then not only will we lose an amazing music scene where artists can flourish, but as a city we will lose out on business from the people who come here to see bands at the smaller venues. I know a lot of people who make mini-vacations out of a visit to see a band.
3036. Marla Guttman | May 12, 2008 at 10:34 pm
I am concerned about this legislation and would like to add my name to the petition. Thanks,
Marla Guttman
3037. Long Live Live Shows « johnny | words | ideas | May 12, 2008 at 10:35 pm
[...] May 12, 2008 I was unaware that Chicago was experiencing a problem with unsafe/underground live performances, but City Council’s excessive proposed response — which will be voted on tomorrow, May 14th — would render many legitimate local promoters powerless and drastically affect live performance of all kinds, both for local artists and for those hoping to tour here. Please read the details on Sun Times music critic Jim DeRogatis’ blog. And if you feel inclined, sign the attached petition. [...]
3038. Lorelle | May 12, 2008 at 10:35 pm
This ordinance needs to be stopped. Chicago is an artistic and cultural hub. Keep it that way.
3039. Dan | May 12, 2008 at 10:35 pm
Without these venues there is no need to be in Chicago. O’ll move to a city with a good music scene, lower taxes, better public transportation and better weather.
3040. John Collier | May 12, 2008 at 10:36 pm
This I see as another way not only to take more money out of our pockets but probably the most idiotic and attempt to stifle basic
creativity yet . I am surprised that they didn’t try to somehow link
this ordinance to terrorism . It makes me ill . It will certainly influence the way I vote from now on .
3041. Gary Marks | May 12, 2008 at 10:36 pm
The requirements for just receiving a PPA (Public Place of Amusement) license in Chicago are already extremely limiting. Let’s not make it even more difficult for artists and audiences to come together. I am absolutely against this ordinance and totally in agreement with the person who said “let’s find another way to prohibit another E2 disaster”. Manny Flores is my alderman and I am going to forward Manny this list.
3042. Andrea Melone | May 12, 2008 at 10:36 pm
This is just another way our society is stifling artistic freedom. Between cutting music and art classes in schools and now this it’ll be surprising if we all do not turn into clones.
This is just such a deplorable act.
3043. Dan Schiller | May 12, 2008 at 10:36 pm
There is a much easier way to accomplish this ordinance’s goals without crippling the performing arts scene
I understand the crisis that is the E2 stampede, but this response is way out of proportion
3044. John Baker | May 12, 2008 at 10:36 pm
The constitution guarantees us the freedom to peaceably assemble. Why do you hate our freedom? Are you terrorists?
3045. Kameron Emel | May 12, 2008 at 10:37 pm
Music is a wonderous thing. And to deprive people of it is a disgrace. These venues have been around for quite some time. And many great shows and concerts have been played in them by many great bands. Several good bands have come from Chicago. They have used these venues to get where they are today. Not to mention the already widely known bands that have played in Chicago’s venues. So please, don’t take away the venues. I think I speak for many when I say we would greatly appreciate it if you save Chicago.
3046. Quanta "Dj Hustle'on" gibson | May 12, 2008 at 10:37 pm
im so totally against this it doesnt make sense…i am a music lover and also a dj……the chicago music heritage is one that inspired me to become a dj…and by having promoters pay large fees just to have a show….its hard enough paying for what the artists ask for now they have to pay a fee on top of that…that will kill the music in chicago im not for it
Quanta “Dj Hustle’on” Gibson
West Point,Ms
3047. Casey Lowry | May 12, 2008 at 10:37 pm
This proposed ordinance is lunacy. This will ruin the City of Chicago’s unique and diverse musical and theatrical culture. Asking for event promoters to pay upwards up $500 just to book a show is insane, not every band or artist wishing to entertain our citizens in their respective ways can afford that financial commitment just to do so.
3048. Grahm Balkany | May 12, 2008 at 10:38 pm
The City of Chicago needs to cut this crap out and focus on its real problems. Passage of this ordinance will be the death knell to one of the main reasons I love living here.
3049. Drew | May 12, 2008 at 10:39 pm
This is suppressing our rights as Americans to express our creativity. The Patriot Act was just the start, I guess, but a prohibition on music? If this is passed, I hope everyone in the upper management of Chicago realize how much resistance they will face.
Bands all over the country claim that Chicago has always been thier best cities to play. The band Emmure (Of Connecticut) even named a song “Chicago’s Finest” . The song is primarily a thank you to all of the band’s fans, but the title suggest the main focus.
Also, this will discourage bands in the Chicago area from playing shows. As a Guitar Center employee who works off commission sales, this will devestate my income. I thought I was created equal?
3050. Hallie Hargreaves | May 12, 2008 at 10:39 pm
Please do not pass this ordinance. Chicago’s music scene is what brings this entire city to life.
3051. Cynthia T | May 12, 2008 at 10:39 pm
NO,
THIS CAN’T HAPPEN!
put my name on the list.
i am horrified.
3052. Jamie C | May 12, 2008 at 10:39 pm
the ordinance is completely ridiculous! Did they even think about all the bands in Chicago that aren’t big enough to play in bigger venues, that only care about playing? It is very stupid, and should not be approved. A lot of bands have become famous because of those venues, and they should not take that away, no matter what!
3053. Jetzi Calvin | May 12, 2008 at 10:39 pm
This is simply ridiculous and I see no real reason to why the ordinance should be passed. The Chicago music scene will slowly diminish and will raise much unnecessary ruckus.
3054. Sterling Martin | May 12, 2008 at 10:39 pm
Please don’t pass this ordinance which in its present form would severely cripple the development of young artists and tear the roots from our city’s cultural spirit.
3055. Patrick O'Connor | May 12, 2008 at 10:40 pm
Mr. Mayor: I’m ashamed of you for even considering this ordenabce!
3056. omar farag | May 12, 2008 at 10:40 pm
tipical polticans,dealing with something without any input from professionals from with-in the industry.this is a regresive bill that will prevent events from happening.——-omar
3057. Katherine Hokenson | May 12, 2008 at 10:40 pm
NO! I worked three jobs to move to this city. I LOVE Chicago, ESPECIALLY its independent culture. The money made from this tax will not produce a longterm profit, only a swift and steady decline in all things Chicago. Without its culture, the city will descend into just another large mid-western city. Trust me, you do NOT want to be in the same category as Indianapolis, or as the truckers so fondly refer to it, India-NO-Place.
3058. Vinnie.D. | May 12, 2008 at 10:40 pm
Stop this move, it will hurt the music, and art world. We are local act’s, cant afford all thease new rules and payments. Most of the time we dont even get paid.
3059. Rodney Word | May 12, 2008 at 10:41 pm
This is just stupid. People can’t afford thi, the ticket or door prices would be so high no one would go. That or there will not be any live bands in Chicago. Why do you want to make life harder on musicians. It is all ready hard enough to make a living without adding more exspence. Please vote no.
3060. Desiree Irwin | May 12, 2008 at 10:41 pm
I vehemently oppose this ordinance.The way that this ordinance is written right now will destroy our cities culture. I have enjoyed a career as a musician and songwriter in this city for 16 years. A working musician has to take all different types of jobs.This ordinance will decrease job opportunities for myself and others in the community.The way the business is now, you only make money by promoting your own shows. So not only are you creating the art, but you are the agent,promoter and musical director if you want to make money. The cost of the license and insurance is more than alot of people get paid in the course of 3-6 months. It would make no business sense for an artist to put on shows if this ordinance is passed.This is wrong on so many levels.
3061. Michael | May 12, 2008 at 10:41 pm
Does anyone know who proposed this ordinance?
3062. Nic Halverson | May 12, 2008 at 10:42 pm
I’m vehemently opposed to this ordinance. Passing it, in my opinion, would be detrimental to the independence and autonomy that smaller clubs offer Chicago’s music scene. This is absurd!!!
3063. Jaclyn Koch | May 12, 2008 at 10:42 pm
Save Chicago music!!!
3064. Victoria Noe | May 12, 2008 at 10:42 pm
NO NO NO!!!!
This is insane, you have to have permission and play ridiculous amounts of money to play music?!
come on chicago wheres the sense in that.
3065. Nate Worby | May 12, 2008 at 10:42 pm
This is ridiculous. In no way can Chicago culture be subjected to this. This is nothing more than a well-guised attempt to further limit free speech. Don’t let it happen.
-Nate Worby
-CEO, GloboRama Music Advertising
3066. Trey Sandlin | May 12, 2008 at 10:42 pm
To all Council Members and Aldermen, please vote ‘no’ on this ordinance.
3067. Megan | May 12, 2008 at 10:43 pm
This is insane, truly insane.
If they rid Chicago of the smaller music business, and strict it to only the big name, widely famous, too-well-known-for-their-own-good shows, then they’ll be taking away the hope that this city gives to musicians hoping to make it.
Of all the shows – music and theater alike – I’ve seen in my life, only one, maybe two, of them would be considered Big Name shows. But I love the smaller named shows {or at least the not-so-well-known-but-capable-of-being-big-named shows} because its more personal.
You can’t get rid of the smaller business without severly harming everyone involved, whether it be the performers, or the fans. It would kill so much hope and so many chances for the performers; it would break the hearts of those who cannot travel past CHicago to see the performers that they know and love; and it would diminish Chicago’s funds from the music & theater scene.
It’s not just me who thinks this, either – I could name at least 15 people I know who would rather die {or die whilst fighting to save small performances} than see this ordinance passed. I hope our views against the ordinace will prevent it from being passed, and I hope that small performances are able to come through Chicago for many years to come.
3068. Michael | May 12, 2008 at 10:43 pm
I consider myself lucky to have visited Chicago a couple of years ago. Felt so at home in all the bars/ clubs. Please add my name to the petition, this is so wrong for Chicago. Stop the promoters Ordinance!
3069. Eli Hermenes | May 12, 2008 at 10:43 pm
This is ridiculous.
I’m seriously offended that city officials just thought of this out of the blue.
DO NOT PASS!
-E
3070. Steve Stryker | May 12, 2008 at 10:43 pm
PLEASE NOT NOT PASS THIS ORDINANCE.
Chicago will literally “die” as a cultural center for music and the arts. I was born and raised in Chi Town and lived and breathed it’s music scene since H.S. (It’s bad enough most schools are lacking the funds needed to continue music educatuion, but this takes the cake.)
I’ve invited friends & family to come to town to check out new bands, entertainment in general, and guess where they spend their money? I’m not even going to comment about absurd cigarette and property taxes.
PLEASE DO NOT MAKE THIS MISTAKE.
3071. Laura Kozlowski | May 12, 2008 at 10:43 pm
This would be a complete tragedy to destroy undoubtedly one of the best parts of Chicago. Chicago would never be the same without it’s huge musical influences.
3072. Ann Filmer | May 12, 2008 at 10:44 pm
As a producer, director, and member of the Chicago theater scene for 14 years, I know firsthand of the financial burdens of creating art, theater and music. Most are doing it for the love cause the “return on investment” is well mostly laughable.
Fees, licenses, insurance… Money can’t buy you safety just like a “war on terror” don’t buy us security. Insurance companies needn’t win again. Let’s not have fear and irrational acts reign. Chicago is smarter than this. City Council, do the right thing and work together with the local music venues to find a solution. Good solutions take time and take buy-in from the community. Passing restricting legislation hurts this city and the future of our culture.
3073. Margaret Webb | May 12, 2008 at 10:44 pm
It’s amazing how our city council attempts to sweep ordinances into place that have no consideration for the workers in this city. Did they consider how in this economy, the small venues are still bringing tourists into our city, which equals money? Chicago has few equals when it comes to the music scene; people visit from all over the world just for a taste of Chicago Blues. This is a prime example of Chicago politics and the machine at work. The ordinance is simply ridiculous in it’s form and will cause more harm then help for the small promoters and musician population of Chicago.
3074. Mashaune Hardy Wilkes | May 12, 2008 at 10:44 pm
As a dancer for several small companies, a board member of a non-profit dance company and the wife of a jazz musician; I can’t even express how devastating this ordinance would be for me. It would literally change my life. Let’s put a stop to this madness.
I do what I love,
Mashaune Hardy Wilkes
3075. Bob Tonge | May 12, 2008 at 10:44 pm
I live in the Northwest Suburbs and consider myself a Chicagoan
because of the music scene. I frequent the Double Door, the Empty Bottle, the Metro, Subterrainean as well as the Abbey Pub.
If these establishments…and other like these…are forced to close
their doors because of this ordinance…my trips to city will be infrequent. To say nothing of the crushing blow iit will have on
the local and even national music scene
Please do not pass this legislation.
3076. Joe Kurzer | May 12, 2008 at 10:45 pm
This is outrageous
just another way they are trying to take control of everythign we do and love
We must stop this and help save the Chicago music scene.
If we don’t stop this, they will just keep at it making it worse and worse
3077. Cayt Belsan | May 12, 2008 at 10:45 pm
Please protect these great venues!! So much of Chicago’s musical culture depends on places like these to bring in the artists we love from all around the world.
3078. Nick Pyle | May 12, 2008 at 10:45 pm
an unbelievable slap in the mouth. this city is famous for it’s cultural expression, and you’ll never find it at a 5000 seat venue or arean. you’re going to find it in clubs and small theaters.
the people that i have contacted about this offensive ordinance were asked a simple question, by me, about the events that would happen if this passed – all asked if they would continue living in chicago if they couldn’t see or play a performance of live music or theater unflinchingly said “i’d just move. i’d find a place that would want me. because what this ordinance says in its subtext is that they don’t want me to be here anymore”. and i agree completely. i’m moving out of chicago if this happens. unbelievable!
3079. Brian | May 12, 2008 at 10:45 pm
This ordinance could greatly damage the vibrance and vitality of our city. One of the things that makes our city so great is its thriving theater scene. People come to our city from all over the country with the hope of making a career for themselves in theater. If this ordinance passes, it could shut down the majority of theater companies in our community, forcing actors to seek employment elsewhere. The extinction of our smaller Chicago theaters would also greatly impact the lives of our citizens who look to the theater to enrich their lives. Those of us who perform in community theater productions purely for the enjoyment of it, or those of us who attend local theater as an affordable alternative to the larger, big-budget theaters, will have an important part of our lives taken from us. We must do all we can to prevent this ordinance from being passed.
3080. Douglas Johnson | May 12, 2008 at 10:46 pm
This cannot pass. It would only encourage the demise of the Chicago so many of us know and love, and destroy the livelihoods of many.
3081. Eli Brooke | May 12, 2008 at 10:46 pm
This could mean no more fundraiser events for nonprofits, little say independent performers of various kinds. It just flies in the face of common sense. For a city so big and so diverse, and so well known for its live shows of all types … what is this, some kind of ridiculous prank to get people riled up? It’s hard to believe this is even real, it’s so blatantly stupid to effectively shut down a massive portion of the entertainment events which bring in revenue to the city through tons of related activities (food, lodging, etc).
3082. Elle Harrer | May 12, 2008 at 10:46 pm
Chicago has always been an amazing place for up-and-coming bands and artists. They’re the reason I’m moving there, and the reason Chicago is as amazing as it is. If this ordinance is passed, it will ruin everything that makes Chicago great: it’s independent spirit and creativity.
3083. Kim O'Neal | May 12, 2008 at 10:46 pm
As a manager/booking agent for a national band I would like to speak out against the Chicago ordinance. Artists in general have a hard enough time building their careers and this ordinance will only make it worse. The fee that could be charged would only mean less shows for up and coming artists when a promoter or band couldn’t afford the $500-$2000 or it would mean much higher ticket prices. It will also mean that artists and booking agents will avoid Chicago when booking shows. Not only because of the fees but also because of the ridiculous finger printing and all of the required information that is necessary to secure a license. Why would anyone go to all that trouble when they can head to suburban locations (where I’m sure more venues will pop up as a result of this) and set up their shows hassle free? I sincerely hope that this will NOT PASS!!!!! It would be a sad day for everyone if it does!
3084. Leah Falkowski | May 12, 2008 at 10:47 pm
This is simply ridiculous. The Chicago music scene is the one reason I find myself in Chicago at least 20 times a year, making the 15 hour drive worth it!
This legislation needs to be stopped!
3085. Amy Willen | May 12, 2008 at 10:47 pm
This is a sad and embarassing grab for power. If there truly were a need for this ordinance, it would be obvious, or at least stated by those who proposed it. Aside from the greed exhibited, the fact that there has been no public discourse on the matter proves that city officials are being deceitful in their proceedings. Shame on them, and what an embarassment for Chicago.
3086. Erica | May 12, 2008 at 10:47 pm
This Ordinance is just wrong. It’s hurting a lot more people, then it’s “supposibly” helping. Why change something that is so expressing and good? Chicago needs this creativity it’s what makes this city unique and enjoyable and not boring! Don’t pass this!
3087. Michael R. Velazquez | May 12, 2008 at 10:48 pm
I find it hard to believe that politicians in this city would actually champion an idea such as this. Chicago is a cultural and artistic hub. An ordinance such as this could be very harmful.
3088. jennifer deheer | May 12, 2008 at 10:48 pm
please lets stop this ordinance.
3089. DANIEL BITNER | May 12, 2008 at 10:48 pm
This is how music works! The little guy, the underdog, the local band… This is where it starts. Take this away and all you have is your well funded corporate owned bands. Its hard enough as it is for local music.
3090. Brian | May 12, 2008 at 10:49 pm
This proposal is an absolute abomination. Chicago has always been a city known for its rich cultural heritage, and with the passage of this ordinance, this heritage will not be passed on to the next generation. Aspiring artists and small venue owners will move out, and Chicago will be devoid of independent performing arts (not to mention the resulting loss of revenue).
3091. Ed Curley | May 12, 2008 at 10:49 pm
Keep live music accessible.
Please.
3092. Stacy Chambers | May 12, 2008 at 10:49 pm
I just sent an e-mail to my alderman asking her to oppose this. I can’t imagine that this would pass, but then there has been a lot of craziness in the world lately.
I hope the council comes to their senses about this. They are really risking hurting Chicago economically for years to come.
3093. Jaime | May 12, 2008 at 10:49 pm
Worst idea ever.
3094. erika gray | May 12, 2008 at 10:49 pm
ditto to jens comment
3095. Mark Janus | May 12, 2008 at 10:50 pm
In its current form, the ordinance presented will do nothing more than destroy the Chicago music scene’s vitality, diversity and character.
If the city’s goal is cultural suicide, by all means, pass it.
3096. Patrick Shore | May 12, 2008 at 10:50 pm
This is outrageous and extremely un necessar, it is a huge barrier . Why would some one need this just to express them selves if you do this you migt as well charge all the poor black kids to play basketball in the city parks. this is nonsense
3097. Dmitry Samarov | May 12, 2008 at 10:50 pm
This needs to be stopped unless we want to end up living in a place like Branson, Missouri
3098. Alicia Tracy | May 12, 2008 at 10:51 pm
What would Chicago be without the cultural scene. Really? Hasn’t Chicago always been known for this kind of stuff.
3099. Ivan Martirena | May 12, 2008 at 10:51 pm
This is just B.S. please, please, please let’s not let this happen!!!!
3100. Richy | May 12, 2008 at 10:51 pm
The reason why I was able to play shows with my band, is because of these little venue’s/rock houses in Chicago. To see that, independent bands and or labels trying to get their music heard, but having to pay a fee in the process–it’s just ridiculous. To who’s ever bright Idea this was in the front office, you should be kicked in the testicles over and over. I believe one of the many reasons why so many venues, rock bars, and little places are up in Chicago still, is because of us. Think of it this way, no music = no business for these venues, which = no money for you greedy politicians.
I’m sorry, but passing this would be down right wrong.
3101. Jon Mayotte | May 12, 2008 at 10:51 pm
If you are going to take away live music and theater from Chicago you might as get rid of the Sears Tower, ban deep dish pizza and close down the Magnificant Mile. Taking away our live music scene would be a disgrace and put the city light years behind New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco and other cities known for their great live music scene. Vote NO on this ordinance!
3102. Justine Bursoni | May 12, 2008 at 10:51 pm
Keep live music in the hands of the people. Please.
3103. Adam Plese | May 12, 2008 at 10:51 pm
come on now, what is Chicago without its music? Chicago is known for its local bands, not the huge ones, if you pass this garbage, Chicago might as well be wiped off the map, just a ridiculous law
3104. Lisa Labovitch | May 12, 2008 at 10:52 pm
One thing I have always been proud of in having Chicago as my home town has been the extremely diverse music scene we have here. There aren’t many cities around where one can find music being played from all corners of the globe – electronic, acoustic, classical, and experimental – all within blocks of each other, every night of the week. None of this variety would be possible if it weren’t for the small-time promoters; the DIY shows. The labors of love.
When the anti-rave ordinances of the 1990s scattered the underground electronic music scene here in Chicago, the music lived on and continued to develop in the small clubs and concert halls through the hard work of various groups of small-time promoters. A scene almost lost continued to exist in legal venues to the letter of the law; now that may be gone for good. How sad is it that the city that gave birth to House music will no longer have places to legally dance to that genre (or any other, or that matter, except for possibly trance, which is pretty embarrassing)? I guess the old stigmas are still alive and well.
Long gone too will be the lively punk shows, thrown in legion halls and other such venues by high school kids looking to play out with their up-and-coming bands. No more hole-in-the wall bars, and cheap nights out. I guess we get to pay $70 instead the next time some pseudo-punk big name rolls through town and plays the All State Arena, or something of that nature.
And indie rockers? Forget about it. Small-time blues clubs? You’re out of luck as well I guess. Just released your first album on your own? I guess you get to play it in your basement to friends because there is no way you’re going to be able to make a living as a small-time musician now. You have no advocates once this thing passes; nobody to take a chance on you and book you for their night. Who can afford it? Free/cheap events were the life-blood for blossoming artists – what will there be after this?
If this ordinance passes, it will effectively be the end of how Chicago enjoys its music. This will hurt business badly – who is going to have a casual night of DJed music, or a small band setup in their neighborhood bar if they need to jump through hoops and shell out this kind of money?
Excuse me for having a ‘sky is falling’ mentality, but to me, and many others, it kind of is. Do we really want to go down a road where we encounter nothing but major labels, huge ticket prices, and large venues that lack intimacy with our music? That future is a bit too bleak for a music-lover like me.
Please think things through – there is much at stake here.
L
3105. dave klod | May 12, 2008 at 10:52 pm
The recent pushes in legislation to restrict a free art community are appalling. The definitions to the actual written law are even more vague than the definition to the word “pornography”. The one question I keep asking as I read this is, why? Why cut down something so vital to human culture? Why destroy or severely limit, if not eradicate, a necessary form of expression for hundreds of thousands of people? Why make Chicago a city devoid of a music and theatre scene? And what is this going to tell the rest of the world if passed? What if Elvis, The Beatles, The Who, or the Rolling Stones were still playing backyard parties and tiny clubs and had to stand in the face of this proposed law? The fury and frustration I feel while reading and discovering this is simply impalpable, and there is not one doubt in my mind I speak for thousands, as do many of the above comments. Music has not stopped growing, and evolution does not end just because YOU are alive. Chicago is known for it’s thriving and diverse art community. What, may I ask, is next? A new proposed law on Chicago’s restaurants, requiring no more than 3 ingredients in any main dish? This vague law is simply ridiculous, and nothing less. Music and theatre are NOT just entertainment, and the government treating entire sects of culture like a 4 year old child are demeaning to the intellect of every single person reading this. Well hey, if this passes, I can always go back to my lifelong dream of working for medium wage in front of a computer screen, and taking the bus home to my safe apartment where nothing can ever harm me. Maybe I can even start fearing my neighbors and people that are just too darn different from me like I’ve always imagined, since I may not be able to follow the crazy thoughts of making a difference and perhaps even changing a life of a lonely 14 year old kid locked in his room while blaring the sounds of the only thing in his life that makes him feel inspired and worthwhile.
3106. Ian Martin | May 12, 2008 at 10:52 pm
This ordinance could seriously damage Chicago’s cultural growth and reputation. Please revise the ordinance so that these important cultural institutions aren’t unjustly punished. Keep Chicago important, progressive, and sane.
3107. Rachel Kabodian | May 12, 2008 at 10:52 pm
This ordinance would ruin the culture the makes Chicago the unique place that it is. How it got so far in the approval process is beyond my understanding. Would you please realize that this would benefit no one, while also harming many many many artists and musicians?? VOTE NO. Seriously.
Peace,
rachel kabodian
3108. james kartsaklis | May 12, 2008 at 10:52 pm
Please hear us out – don’t let this ordinance pass!
3109. Rainbo Video | May 12, 2008 at 10:52 pm
So the point of having Looptopia less than two weeks ago was, what, to showcase and celebrate Chicago’s artistic and cultural community just before you destroyed it?
As a musician and someone who’s lived in Chicago all my life, I find this doubly appalling. It’s utterly disgraceful to think anyone would propose something that would betray the artists who have chosen Chicago as their home precisely because of its creative opportunities.
Chicago has one of the greatest music scenes in the world, and this vibrant community plays no small part the city’s economy. This ordinance is clearly biased against small clubs and musicians, and if the tacit purpose of this bureaucratic safety measure is to inject some much-needed money into the city’s pocketbook, it’s beyond misguided – it’s delusional.
The short and long-term effects will be devastating. Not only are you eliminating an important part of the city’s economy, but you are alienating the ones who made it possible – musicians, artists, promoters, and fans. For us, independent Chicago art and culture is not just something to keep us entertained – it’s our life. If this is passed, countless musicians and artists WILL leave Chicago.
This is cultural suicide bred by colossal stupidity. Do not pass this.
3110. brendan o'connell | May 12, 2008 at 10:52 pm
this is seriously bogus. save chicago music!
3111. Nix | May 12, 2008 at 10:52 pm
I just moved to Chicago from New Orleans in 2005 as a Hurricane Katrina evacuee and one of the greatest things that has kept me in Chicago is the awesome music scene. If my self-produced, independently funded band has to pay for a $500+ license to promote our shows, much less take a background check, then I guess we’ll just play in our practice space and stop performing. My favorite venues that I’ve been working for the last three years to play in I guess we’ll just give up trying to play at, because as most aspiring bands know, it takes years to build up a big enough fan base to bring upwards of 500 people, especially in the smaller venues. I expect more out of a city like Chicago who has so openly welcomed the little guy, like myself and my band.
3112. Lisa Martirena | May 12, 2008 at 10:53 pm
If this goes trough, I’ll be so disappointed I might consider leaving the city.. can’t believe this is even an option…
3113. John Davey | May 12, 2008 at 10:53 pm
I live in Northwest Indiana. I love visiting and spending my hard earned cash in Chicago. This city provides a music scene that my state of residence cannot/will not support. If this comes to pass, I feel that the whole reason for my frequent visits to Chicago will cease to exist.
I find this ordinance to be unjust. I know if the music scene I love were to be crippled by this ordinance, I would no longer be bringing my cash to your fine city. I know there are my from my neck of the woods to who feel the same way.
3114. Jessica | May 12, 2008 at 10:53 pm
please do not pass this ordinance. my pride for chicago would go way down the tube…. i mean, waaay down.
3115. Justine Bursoni | May 12, 2008 at 10:53 pm
Keep live music in the hands of the people. Please.
3116. Samlane Chanthadouangsy | May 12, 2008 at 10:54 pm
if this thing passes, i will leave chicago for good! what a stupid idea..
3117. Jordan Dismuke | May 12, 2008 at 10:54 pm
We need to keep the music scene in Chicago alive. I strongly believe Chicago thrives on the music involved with the great city. Let us keep it going strong.
3118. Erick | May 12, 2008 at 10:54 pm
You can’t let this happen people. I’m a musician who doesn’t even live in the state but who comes here at least five or six times a year to play at different clubs and venues with all sorts of different bands. If you were to take these places away the bands I play with would cease to exist and I quite frankly would be out of a job. Not to mention all the money you looneys are outting yourselves if you do this. Seriously, think about it…I fly into Midway airport–money spent there on tickets, magazines, food etc; I stay at hotels in Chicago–money spent on room; I take cabs–money spent cruising the city in a taxi; I eat at the local resturants–money spent on food and drinks; I even from time to time venture out to Navy Pier–money spent, spent, and spent. All this and so much more spent in my free time in Chicago. I buy hot-dogs in the summer from the vendors on the street; I take the El from time to time; if I have the time I even take in a Cubs game. If you were to pass this, I wouldn’t be able to come back and do all those things…neither would hundred of thousands of other band members or fans coming in to see said bands. In reality, you people would be loosin’ tons of money and such a fantastic cultral environment. It’d be a seriously stupid move on your part. Save the small venues and help us musicians keep paying our rent, huh?
3119. Patrick Robinson | May 12, 2008 at 10:55 pm
I think this is atrocious. Many of the bands I go to see are small and would never be allowed to play with such regulations. Also, when I go to a show I spend a good deal of money in the city. Every time I go to the Metro, I eat at Bacci’s just around the corner. The Vic, Clarke’s and when at the House of Blues, I even make the trek up to Rush to eat at Giordanno’s. I ride the el, and buses. Shows are an income for these places and I think restricting music would hurt not only the communities but also the culture of Chicago music.
3120. geraldmcclendon | May 12, 2008 at 10:55 pm
This is unheard of to control the music the lively hood of so many people it’s like Hiler and Germany.Find better things to do like promoting music back into Schools. I Object to this 100%
3121. Phoebe Svoboda | May 12, 2008 at 10:55 pm
This just can’t happen! I love going to concerts at smaller venues, and the idea of that not happening just kills me. I really hope this gets stopped!!
3122. Scott | May 12, 2008 at 10:55 pm
Please do not allow this.
3123. Kendred Spirit | May 12, 2008 at 10:55 pm
At a time where the economy is at it’s absolute worse, gas prices are at it’s highest and the country is making a slow and steady march towards another great depression, this ordinance is just another proverbial “log on the fire” that’s been festering for many years.
It shouldn’t surprise me that this ordinance is even up for discussion but it does. I’m sure this is just another way to bleed more capitol for tax purposes that will NEVER be reciprocated into the funds, programs, and communities that truly need them but hey, anything for the “greater good” right? Whatever the point of this ordinance is supposed to be, the fact of the matter is it will completely alienate the people this council need most…not just the musicians but the audience who goes to see these musicians. I’m also sure that the council is not aware of the indelible ripple effect this ordinance will cause in regards to public displays of creative expression…positive and negative.
Before the final decision is made, take a moment and think this over: In a city where the climate of violence has surpassed record-breaking proportions, do we really need a bunch of pissed off artists added to the calamity?
Save Chicago Culture…what’s left of it.
3124. Julianna Cuevas | May 12, 2008 at 10:55 pm
As a native and lifelong resident of Chicago I have seen many abominations happen to the face of the city I love. Soldier Field? The condo strip on Diversey? Tearing down landmarks and erecting faceless facades is one thing, but music, art and culture is the heart and soul of a city that prides its blues legacy as much as its sports teams.
Daley: be serious. Elected officials: take heart that this would not go down without a fight
3125. Alexandra Donoho | May 12, 2008 at 10:55 pm
This is ridiculous and will cause nothing but harm to the amazing cultural scene we have. Please, do not pass this ordinance.
3126. Marissa DeBiase | May 12, 2008 at 10:56 pm
It is utterly ridiculous to be singling out these venues.
This will ruin the whole culture scene, not just the music scene.
The city has been known for having great, diverse culture and music, and now that’s all going down the drain.
Wonderful.
3127. Michael Narvaez | May 12, 2008 at 10:57 pm
The chairman of the committee that OK’d this proposal and sent it on to the city council is 47th Ward Ald. Gene Schulter.
Here’s his contact info:
47th Ward Office
4237 N. Lincoln Avenue
Chicago, IL 60618
773-348-8400
773-348-8480 (fax),
Email: ward47@cityofchicago.org
Committee on License and Consumer Protection
The Committee on License and Consumer Protection has jurisdiction over the licensing of persons, property, businesses and occupations and all matters relating to consumer protection, products liability, consumer fraud and all matters relating to the Department of Consumer Services.
Chairman: Eugene C. Schulter
Vice-Chairmen: Isaac Carothers
Members: Fioretti, Lyle, Cardenas, Olivo, Cochran, Zalewski, Reboyras, Banks, Doherty, Tunney, Shiller, M. Smith
3128. Mike Zembala | May 12, 2008 at 10:57 pm
This is another nickel and dime business, not only will our starving artists starve even more. But in the future of Chicago there will be quarter slots and credit card readers on drinking fountains, toilets, parks and cemetaries. Cigerette smokers will start smoking crack because its cheaper. However, Chicagos underground culture will thrive in the surrounding towns, suburbs and cities. Chicago will be a “no go” city for our small time bands. Good news for Indianapolis, St. Louis, and Milwaukee.
3129. Octovember | May 12, 2008 at 10:57 pm
Boooooooo. This is ridiculous. Keep music alive.
3130. Ashley Nyhart | May 12, 2008 at 10:58 pm
I am appalled that this ordnance is even being considered! I have been going to local shows in smaller venues for the past nine years and Chicago will not be the home I know if this nonsense is passed.
3131. Faith Koleczek | May 12, 2008 at 10:58 pm
This is ridiculous. Add my name.
3132. Jeremy hunsinger | May 12, 2008 at 10:58 pm
ok, this is a bad ordinance. it is against everything that a city that wants to grow and prosper, encourage the concentration and development of wealth and creativity in its boarder should support. in fact, i think this is about as opposite of creative cities ideas, as you can get, and that means… it is closer to detroit 1982 than chicago 1996, look and see what happened the 10 years after that in each city, which do you choose?
3133. Eliza Stoughton | May 12, 2008 at 10:58 pm
I find this ordinance disturbing as an avid music appreciator and as an actor. This ordinance would do away with the “Here today, gone tomorrow” storefront atmosphere of Chicago that is such a big draw for young, upcoming artists. Chicago notoriously hates being called a “second” to NY and our storefront theatre is one of many things we have in spades. It is just such an ignorant move to do away with it. This is going to hurt the people who are already struggling. Please rethink this legislation!!!
3134. Vinnie Bologna | May 12, 2008 at 10:59 pm
I’m against it. Chicago is one of the most popular and phenomenal additions to the music industry this bill will only damage Chicago’s reputation and loyalty to the music world. This bill would throw away so much more than goes into the city, businesses will hurt because of this, people will hold this against the city, please do not take away from our pride! The music is part of Chicago’s own beating heart, this bill will only help bring that to a stop, please do not pass this.
3135. Stephen Kellner | May 12, 2008 at 10:59 pm
This is just outrageous. I can understand that a very minimal amount of these rules may be for the “protection” of some people, but to put these massive restrictions will do nothing else but stifle and eventually exterminate ALL creative culture in Chicago.
This must be stopped, Chicago is a culturally and artistically rich area, and this will do nothing but bad.
3136. Jorg ramirez | May 12, 2008 at 10:59 pm
SAVE CHICAGO MUSIC!!!! we need the music to keep up alive man
don’t let this happen. WE NEED THE MUSIC!!!!
3137. Brad Waite | May 12, 2008 at 11:00 pm
This thing is stupid. Why would anyone do something like that? it’s just a way for the government to silence the musicians and anything that has to do with art. It’s probably one of the stupidest things i’ve ever heard in my life. Smaller venues is where its at. and they need to realize this.
3138. Jan Cattron | May 12, 2008 at 11:00 pm
These seems like another hare-brained scheme to try to raise revenues by taxing the little guys.
In the end Chicago/Cook County’s loss could be a big gain for the ‘burbs as those venues and performers are forced to move out.
It doesn’t seem well thought out.
3139. Katrina Trisko | May 12, 2008 at 11:00 pm
The leaders of Chicago have to be crazy to allow this to pass. Stop this now!
3140. Patrick Pugliese | May 12, 2008 at 11:00 pm
No.
3141. Lindsay Billings | May 12, 2008 at 11:00 pm
If the city tries to regulate one more thing I’m going to scream. Give the arts a break! We’re already losing them in schools because sports “bring in more money…” What a crock! How many people who were involved in H.S. sports are still involved in any way? Now how many people in the arts are still involved? BIG difference. I am TOTALLY against this license crap!
Sound Off, people!
Lindsay
3142. Josh Ortiz | May 12, 2008 at 11:01 pm
I think that this is amazingly dumb. Why would they think that this is okay to do? What are the reasons for them even thinking about this? It would lose business for a bunch of venues and cause multiple venues and surrounding businesses to close down. For example: Mojoe’s Rock House in Tinley Park, IL would close down. Causing the 711, the Mexican restaurant, and the Thornton gas station to all lose business. After shows many people who go to these places go to the surrounding businesses to relax, grab a bite to eat, and just hang out. If they were to pass this then those venues would close and the surrounding businesses would close as well. I believe this is absolutely unnecessary and should not be passed.
3143. Kyle Caudle | May 12, 2008 at 11:01 pm
Unless you want the whole city to go down the tubes i highly suggest you leave the whole music scene alone! it brings in so many people to the city and helps the city continue to thrive in a HUGE way! This cant happen! stop this madness!
3144. Sumner Truax | May 12, 2008 at 11:01 pm
The music/arts scene in Chicago is vibrant. Please don’t kill it by axing the smaller venues.
3145. Anthony Nava | May 12, 2008 at 11:01 pm
I think the true stupidity of this suggested law has already been covered, so there’s no real point in mentioning the same points. However, it’s not just Chicago that suffers in this issue. If this were to pass, then no bands would ever arise from the Chicago enviroment because there would be no local venues to support them, unless they purposely left the area just to play music, which is a risky endeavor for a smaller band. I just really hope things of this nature are enough to stop the proposal in its tracks.
3146. Lisa Menzel | May 12, 2008 at 11:02 pm
Music is free. Outside of this petition, I’d like to see them try. I’m still going to book. Who’s with me?
3147. Annie Rolewski | May 12, 2008 at 11:02 pm
This is the most ridiculous thing that has ever come up in history.
This shows no passion for people and their art.
Whoever wanted to make this law should be ashamed of themselves, because they obviously have no dignity in the world.
WE WILL SAVE THIS
3148. Lucas Healy | May 12, 2008 at 11:02 pm
This must be stopped. Our music and our culture is all we have.
Do NOT let this ordinance be passed!
3149. David Espino | May 12, 2008 at 11:03 pm
I can not believe that this is happening in Chicago. The Ordinance should be ashamed for what they are doing. It seems as though none of them have ever lived here. The culture of this city is what makes this city great. We can’t walk down halsted and without seeing a blues club or theater group and if this passes they will no longer be there not only on halsted but no To Much Light Makes The Baby Go Blind, no more great local musicians at the Green Mill. Where would this city be without it’s artists. I love music, art and the theater yes we would have the big box office but were would we be without those who do it for the passion they feel in there hearts. Were would Chicago be without it’s culture. Go ahead take the pearl away that makes this city great… but what this ordinance is doing is killing the city that makes people want to come here. If it passes let there be a sign on billboard that says welcome to Chicago that reads ” Abandon hope all ye aspiring artists” Our culture all Chicago’s culture is in your hands. All of you “leaders” should be ashamed.
3150. David Tibble | May 12, 2008 at 11:03 pm
Please do not pass this ordinance.
3151. Lauren Malis | May 12, 2008 at 11:03 pm
This is outrageous! The music scene is what helps set Chicago apart from so many other places. As a person who has lived in Chicago all of their life, I can honestly say that the amazing culture scene has influenced my life in so many ways and I can’t imagine myself without it. This ordinance needs to be stopped!!!
3152. Jessica Hovey | May 12, 2008 at 11:03 pm
Music and art suffer enough in this world, why add another hoop for us to jump through?
3153. Christine Joynt | May 12, 2008 at 11:05 pm
Please do not support this.
3154. Joe | May 12, 2008 at 11:05 pm
This is the most ridiculous idea the city has come up with. Can’t the powers that be find a better way to make a buck then to go after the small time promoters? I totally disagree with this ordinance.
3155. Adrienne Wilfong | May 12, 2008 at 11:05 pm
Please, do not pass this ordinance.
3156. Stefanie Goliszewski | May 12, 2008 at 11:05 pm
We can’t let this happen.
3157. Liz | May 12, 2008 at 11:05 pm
Musicians need to pay bills too, ya know? Don’t do this and force us musicians out onto the street or out of the city. We gotta have a place to play and I rather like it here in Chi-Town.
3158. Andrew Hart | May 12, 2008 at 11:06 pm
My band has played in Chicago several times and this ordinance would keep independent bands like mine from being able to perform in that great city. We cannot allow this to be passed into law.
-Andrew
3159. Brian J. Lowry | May 12, 2008 at 11:06 pm
This ordinance is like shooting your foot off because you’ve stubbed your toe. Art, music, and culture thrive in conditions where they can be independent. To regulate the promotion of independent art events reeks of cultural oppression and all the bad parts of Communism. Passing this ordinance would be a blow to the American artistic spirit, and downright unpatriotic.
3160. Alan Kennedy | May 12, 2008 at 11:06 pm
I see very little benefit in this, as if some musicians aren’t struggling enough now they just have more money situations to worry about. This is a horrible idea.
3161. Matt Koca | May 12, 2008 at 11:06 pm
I’ve travelled all over the US and I live in chicago. I’ve been playing in bands for 10+ years and do you really think that the weather is why I stay here? The Chicago music scene is a huge part of why I am still a Chicagoan. I don’t really go and see the national acts that often, and really enjoy going to Uncommon Ground and smaller venues to check out indie bands and local acts. I can just walk into a bar on a monday night and catch a local band playing. This ordinance would make that a difficult proposition for bands and bar owners alike…and ultimately wash it away. If there is no big crowd, then why would you book it if the city required all the insurance and fees and dues? And wouldn’t the larger crowds that would be required to pay for all of this just make it that much more dangerous and risky to host? Isn’t that the purpose for the law in the first place? Doesn’t make sense to me….and in the end, it would just choke the local music scene.
3162. lundy | May 12, 2008 at 11:07 pm
absurd.
3163. Patrick O'Connor | May 12, 2008 at 11:07 pm
Mr Mayor and City Council: I am ashamed of you for even considering such an ordenabce. You’ll ruin Chicago’s Spirit!
3164. Krista Hoitomt | May 12, 2008 at 11:07 pm
I urge everyone to not let this pass. Chicago is a city that prides itself on its diverse and unique music scene. This measure will effectively kill its energetic spirit and heart that people all over appreciate.
3165. Alex Dzamtovski | May 12, 2008 at 11:08 pm
please do not pass this ordinance. My band just released
an album and want to be able to play all over this wonderful city
3166. Katherine Berling | May 12, 2008 at 11:08 pm
Please don’t do this!
3167. Samantha Hunt | May 12, 2008 at 11:08 pm
this just can’t happen. period.
3168. philip dawkins | May 12, 2008 at 11:08 pm
This ordinance is inane. I am a registered voter, and will actively campaign AGAINST any legislator who supports this proposal.
Philip Dawkins
3169. Kiersten Thomsen | May 12, 2008 at 11:09 pm
completely against this. Art is about expression, EVERYONE’S expression. art can’t be limited to just those who can afford to pay this outrageous license!
3170. Heidi | May 12, 2008 at 11:09 pm
We live in an amazing city for music. Please keep it that way and don’t pass this.
3171. Sean Bradley | May 12, 2008 at 11:09 pm
I am against the passing of this ordinance 100%.
3172. Laura | May 12, 2008 at 11:10 pm
what the hell?! are they out of their minds? you can’t take aways the music. one of the best bands ever is from Chicago, and in their defense, they love coming home to play for kids in the place they grew up. they’ve helped out a lot of people, and I’m pretty damn sure it’d be nice to come home without having to pay money, or go through all those other useless things. I thought California passed ridiculous laws, but this is just stupid.
DON’T PASS THIS THING
3173. Timmy O | May 12, 2008 at 11:10 pm
This simply cannot pass. Chicago’s most influential gift to the world has always been the arts. George Orwell couldn’t have predicted an idea like this.
If this so much as comes close, could you imagine the fallout? every major city in the country would use this as precedence.
we NEED to make sure this doesn’t happen.
3174. Sean Flannery | May 12, 2008 at 11:10 pm
This ordinance would be terrible, and not just for supporters and performers of live art. Live art helps attract young, progressive people to a city. Chicago could just become a heavily taxed version of Grand Rapids, MI if such policies are enacted. I sincerely hope this is dropped or fundamentally reworked.
3175. Elizabeth Knapp | May 12, 2008 at 11:10 pm
This can not happen. It’s that simple, it just can’t.
3176. Leland P | May 12, 2008 at 11:10 pm
This law is stupid do to Chicago rich history of music, they have no right to do this at all
3177. Oscar Jasso | May 12, 2008 at 11:11 pm
Please, stop this ordinance.
3178. Alicia | May 12, 2008 at 11:11 pm
Although I am not from Chicago, many of the bands I listen to have come from the city. Without local promoters, they probably would have never been heard by major record labels and become what they are now. Chicago has become famous for some of the bands that have come from there. With this ordinance, the music scene will continue to thrive on the already established bands but will not grow because smaller bands will have no chance of being recognized. Promoters are not about making money, just about the music which is why they are not paid. Without making money for what they are doing to ultimately help the music scene how are they supposed to pay fees for licenses?
3179. Alex Moffat | May 12, 2008 at 11:11 pm
Hell no!
3180. Gregory Adams | May 12, 2008 at 11:11 pm
Passing this ordinance would be a giant mistake and a serious blow to creative expression and Chicago’s arts culture. This in turn will aversely effect the city’s commerce and tourism since the arts are a great draw to bring people to our city. Considering that Chicago wants to create an image as a vibrant multicultural community to attract the Olympics an ordinance such as this seems to be a really bad idea. Do not pass this ordinance!!
3181. Jordan Anderson | May 12, 2008 at 11:11 pm
Chicago ordinance to musicians: “Get a ‘real’ job, loser.”…..?
Do not pass this ordinance.
3182. Holly | May 12, 2008 at 11:12 pm
They can’t be serious. I am 100% against this. This ordinance will hurt them more than it will help them, and it will completely destroy the Chicago music scene!
3183. Angela Brown | May 12, 2008 at 11:12 pm
One of the best things about this city is the local music scene. Please don’t cripple it.
3184. Jameeleh Shelo | May 12, 2008 at 11:12 pm
Save Chicago Culture.
Add me to the petition.
3185. Matt Kinahan | May 12, 2008 at 11:13 pm
This is terrible for the music scene. Stop this from happening!
3186. Pamela Cicero | May 12, 2008 at 11:13 pm
The Chicago music scene is falling as is. Do we really need to throw another block onto the creative minds of chicago? Unnecessary.
3187. Michael Zerang | May 12, 2008 at 11:13 pm
VOTE AGAINST THIS ORDINANCE!
I have been performing music in this city since 1976. I play experimental music which is not supported by the mainstream public. As a consequence, I have performed to small audiences in bars, nightclubs, basements, lofts, art galleries, cultural centers, abandon factories, and every other manner of unsanctioned buildings and spaces imaginable, performing often for little or money.
I currently make my living touring around the world playing this marginal type of music, which I have honed over all of these years right here in Chicago, and when I return home, there is, and always has been, plenty of opportunities to meet and play with new musicians who are pushing boundaries and moving the art form forward.
This is what makes Chicago a great music city… it’s long history of INNOVATION, not just the commercial music that you can find in the big establishments.
Musicians come here from all around the country to live and work here for this reason. Musicians travel to Chicago to perform and interact with their fellow artists with an exchange of ideas an styles. Around the world, the reputation of innovative Chicago music is well known and revered.
By making it nearly impossible to have this kind of underground activity happen in Chicago, this ordinance would be a devastating blow to this aspect of cultural life in Chicago. It will not end it, but it will certainly push it further underground.
3188. David Grant | May 12, 2008 at 11:13 pm
This ordinance would essentially be putting a muzzle on one of the most vibrant music scenes in the world. Wake up Chicago!
3189. Dan Cigrang | May 12, 2008 at 11:13 pm
i know a couple people in small unsigned bands, and they have trouble promoting their band just around the neighborhood due to low funding because of gear they need to purchase and other promo items.
do NOT enforce this because small bands cannot promote their struggling band due to funding for this lisence.
3190. Ben Hurd | May 12, 2008 at 11:14 pm
Please, stop this ordinance.
3191. Brett Laman | May 12, 2008 at 11:14 pm
Not cool.
3192. Ron | May 12, 2008 at 11:14 pm
As a person who recently started promoting shows I feel this would set Chicago back dramaticly. Music is a form of freedom of speach. Freedom of expression. It will only hurt the city of Chicago and all the retailers and bars of Chicago. Imagine Chicago with out its charm or heritage. Isnt chicago the city of music. Where Blues is king. Imagine going to O Hare and not seeing to sax player. Take away the street performers and aspiring musicians. Whats left? Homeless people? Talk about stupid is as stupid does. Fight for music. Fight for freedom of speach and expression. Lets not lose the city of Chicagos heritage.
3193. Jennifer Estlin | May 12, 2008 at 11:15 pm
Any venue owner in this city who has gone through the tremendously trying process of getting a PAV or PPA license knows how much the kind but beleaguered staff at the City’s Dept. of Bus. Affairs and Licensing is already ‘in the weeds’; the wait for fingerprinting can be weeks as it currently stands. Imagine the insane amount of paperwork/person-hours this ordinance would generate! The city can’t keep up with the system as it currently is! Example: The Annoyance Theatre alone hosts up to 14 different performances a week – some rentals from outside ‘promoters’ – (performers trying to find a place to perform their show). Given the current ordinance’s language these rentals would not be classified as an “exclusion to the required license” under 4-157-020(5) (licensee personally plans, prepares or executes an amusement or event in the course of
such licensed business;), the shows that come in as rentals are generally neither prepared nor planned by our theatre staff. These promoter/performers work for a split of the house – and barely cover their costs as it is. To hope that they could provide this type of insurance or afford the license is comical – and not in a good way.
Want to kill Chicago’s music, comedy, and live performing arts scene in one fell swoop? Pass this ordinance, and then take all the revenue it generates to invest in the “Come Do Your Thing in Chicago!” campaign the city will need in a few years when all the artists leave for a warmer and more business friendly climate.
Jennifer Estlin
Annoyance Theatre
3194. Charles Schultz | May 12, 2008 at 11:15 pm
Not sure if this has been posted before, but here are the emails of the aldermen in Chicago, please make your voice heard!
WARD01@cityofchicago.org, mhaithcock@cityofchicago.org, dtillman@cityofchicago.org, tpreckwinkle@cityofchicago.org, lhairston@cityofchicago.org, flyle@cityofchicago.org, wbeavers@cityofchicago.org, tstroger@cityofchicago.org, abeale@cityofchicago.org, jpope@cityofchicago.org, jbalcer@cityofchicago.org, ward12@cityofchicago.org, folivo@cityofchicago.org, eburke@cityofchicago.org, sacoleman@cityofchicago.org, lrthomas@cityofchicago.org, tmurphy@cityofchicago.org, vrugia@cityofchicago.org, atroutman@cityofchicago.org, ward21@cityofchicago.org, rmunoz@cityofchicago.org, mzalewski@cityofchicago.org, mchandler@cityofchicago.org, dsolis@cityofchicago.org, bocasio@cityofchicago.org, wburnett@cityofchicago.org, ehsmith@cityofchicago.org, icarothers@cityofchicago.org, ward30@cityofchicago.org, rsuarez@cityofchicago.org, tmatlak@cityofchicago.org, rmell@cityofchicago.org, caustin@cityofchicago.org, ward35@cityofchicago.org, emitts@cityofchicago.org, mlaurino@cityofchicago.org, bdoherty@cityofchicago.org, bnatarus@cityofchicago.org, vdaley@cityofchicago.org, ttunney@cityofchicago.org, plevar@cityofchicago.org, ward46@cityofchicago.org, ward47@cityofchicago.org, msmith@cityofchicago.org, jmoore@cityofchicago.org, bstone@cityofchicago.org
3195. Leslie | May 12, 2008 at 11:15 pm
Unbelievable. This city is filled with an incredible amount of talent–talent comes here from all over the world!–and ripping the opportunity away from artists and patrons… it’s completely insane. Please stop this. For those who’s lives are driven by music, this would be devistating. It is obvious there are many people who wolud be deeply affected by this. Please stop this.
3196. Nicole Kuczynski | May 12, 2008 at 11:15 pm
I don’t live in Chicago, but I plan to in the near future. My boyfriend is in a band that plays at small venues in the city, I am friends with a lot of bands that are from the city, and I routinely go up there for coffeehouse concerts and shows put on at the Metro. If this ordinance were to go in to effect it would greatly stunt the flow of new music being found and it would only in turn prove to harm everyone involved.
They have done well enough all this time — why make this law now? I think this ought to be highly reconsidered. It would be a terrible, terrible mistake to allow this to pass.
3197. Chicago Music | May 12, 2008 at 11:15 pm
I want to Thank All of my Artists, Djays, Promoters and Labels coming here to Sign against this proposed Bill, Thank you.
ChicagoMusicPromotions.Com
NewMusicPromote.Com
3198. Hazel Troost | May 12, 2008 at 11:15 pm
Do not pass this ordinance!
(Rogers Park resident)
3199. Todd Neumann | May 12, 2008 at 11:15 pm
This is terrible to think that this could happen. Between this, the sales tax increase, and the obscene parking fines, Daley must be gettin pretty fat. Maybe with less mismanagement of Chicago projects, i.e. the subway station project that is $200 million over budget, the city could get by without new sources of revenue.
3200. Will Cooper | May 12, 2008 at 11:15 pm
I am a Chicago–based playwright, and I am dreadfully concerned that the so–called “Events Promoter” legislation will severely curtail the depth and diversity of the Chicago arts scene, restricting new, emerging, and struggling artists who lack the financial resources to pay even a fraction of the burdensome taxes that the legislation proposes. Please vote AGAINST the ordinance.
Yours,
Will Cooper
3201. Conor Girard | May 12, 2008 at 11:15 pm
this is completley outrageous, and i will not stand for living in a city governed by people that are willing to sink this low for their own selfish dreams of self grandor while completley crushing the little man! As an active participant of the chicago music scene i am proud to say that i totally dissagree with anyone in favor of passing the promoters ordinance!
Sincerely
Conor J. Girard
Roaming Bear
3202. Kassandra Kocoshis | May 12, 2008 at 11:16 pm
This is absurd. Chicago is known for its thriving music scene. This is a bad idea for so many obvious reasons.
3203. Michael Baffes | May 12, 2008 at 11:16 pm
The scene is an integral part of many fans coming into the city and contributing to the local economies that these venues are a part of. Remove the music, remove the fans, remove the economy. Simple as that.
3204. Juan | May 12, 2008 at 11:16 pm
this is ridiculous.
100% against this.
3205. ian meyer | May 12, 2008 at 11:16 pm
the music scene needs help from the government- not discouragement. There should be much more thought on the subject considering the difficulties that will arise concerning the safe and law-abiding citizens associated with the chicago music business.
please just leave things the way they are and focus on the problems that arise- not the prevention of them.
thank-you
ian
3206. Dave | May 12, 2008 at 11:16 pm
Chicago’s music scene already suffers because of Chicago’s huge love for sports. Might as well just get rid of all music programs in schools too. THIS IS JUST WRONG!!!
3207. T. BLAIR | May 12, 2008 at 11:17 pm
THIS IS A BAD IDEA. I HOPE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD BE INTELLIGENT ENOUGH TO SEE THE DAMAGE THAT THIS WOULD DO TO ALL MUSICIANS AND CLUB OWNERS, BOTH LARGE & SMALL.
HOPEFULLY THEY WILL NOT LET SOMETHING LIKE THIS COME INTO BEING!
3208. Amber Wood | May 12, 2008 at 11:17 pm
When I read this I wanted to punch in my computer screen lol. Why would they do something like this…it’s stupid! I’m not a performer now but in the near future I’m going to be.
Anyways I just think that this would be terrible for those who are in the music business…terrible for the music scene.
Everyone needs to help stop this from happening!!
3209. Eric Fredline | May 12, 2008 at 11:17 pm
This is insane. I chose to attend Columbia College in the fall becasue of how big the art scene is in Chicago and if this whole ordeal goes through… then wtf?!?!?
3210. Damien G | May 12, 2008 at 11:17 pm
With out the music scene here in Chicago I would live somewhere else. Places like the Charleston, Schubas, DD, Bottle, need to be encouraged, NOT discouraged. This is a shame. Where is the money going to go?
3211. brittany. | May 12, 2008 at 11:17 pm
This is outrageous!!!!!
3212. Ashley | May 12, 2008 at 11:17 pm
Did Chicago overlook the staggering amounts of revenue that smaller local shows collectively bring to our city? COME ON.
3213. Jennifer Peterson | May 12, 2008 at 11:18 pm
This will have a negative impact on local artist events (like my own shows) and benefits around the city. I have been a part of 2 benefits this last year: LiveLife Music Benefit for Breast Cancer & a Benefit for the Eric Lowen Trust (ALS). If the organizers were required to obtain a license, the events may have been cancelled because of the lack of funds. If they did decide to obtain a license and proceed, the cost would have to come out of the money meant for the AVON Breast Cancer Organization or the money meant to help Eric Lowen with his medical expenses. This would put a damper on the whole concept of holding benefits. The venues where these events were held already have insurance and licenses. I think the city should focus on enforcing building codes and capacity restrictions that already exist.
3214. Charlotte | May 12, 2008 at 11:18 pm
I don’t live in Chicago, but this affects people from all over – people come from around the world to experience the intense arts culture that Chicago has to offer. Please don’t turn Chicago into another over-priced, over-regulated New York.
3215. Alex Navarro | May 12, 2008 at 11:18 pm
Why would the city try to destroy the music scene!?!? Save it!!!
Please don’t let this pass. You would be crushing the dreams and creativity that this city has to offer.
3216. Daniel Mirzakhani | May 12, 2008 at 11:18 pm
How could you City Council? Are you really willing to kill your artist culture in this city? Are you ready and willing to put up with constant protests and demonstrations, in the form of simple concerts? How can you possibly believe that while CPD is busy as it is bringing the murder rate down, that they could find time to bust small local concerts? I’m sure they’ll find the time…but why? WHY?
3217. Hajji A. | May 12, 2008 at 11:18 pm
As an artist and as a patron of shows, this ordinance, if put into effect, could be the downfall of the Chicago music scene. Please do not allow this to happen. For the sake of artists, fans, and venues alike.
3218. Andrew Crawford | May 12, 2008 at 11:19 pm
REDICULOUS.
3219. Preston Flaherty | May 12, 2008 at 11:19 pm
How is the city of Chicago seriously considering passing this ordinance into law?? I am a musician of 13 years and I play in a band (and have many friends that play in many bands) that thrive on, among many things, playing shows in Chicago. This is an absolutely terrible ordinance. Sorry politicians, not every band is f**king U2 and can sell out the United Center every time they come to town.
This cannot be passed into law. It will destroy any hope of a future for the Chicago musicians. You have to be a small band before your a big band, and this would kill Chicago’s vibrant arts scene and ensure NO future for it.
We can’t let the city of Chicago get away with this kind of murder.
3220. Daniel R. Lackey | May 12, 2008 at 11:19 pm
No.
3221. Nicole | May 12, 2008 at 11:20 pm
I don’t think this is the answer. Please keep this ordinance from passing. Chicago’s unique music & arts scene is what makes it extraordinary. It’s what other cities strive for and frankly it’s the reason I live here. Artists have a hard enough time creating art, finding a place to perform or showcase it, etc.. These people do this out of love, commitment, perseverence and a passion for art. I don’t see where this would be a good thing. This would make things much more difficult and would discourage a lot of artists. Why would you do that in a city known for it’s thriving arts, it’s independent artists?!
3222. kelly* | May 12, 2008 at 11:20 pm
come on!
whats wrong with this city?!
what will become of the chicago music scene without these tiny lil venues?!
its where so many hardcore chicago fans and bands grew up.
passing this ordinance would be a huuuuge mistake.
do the right thing and keep things the way they are!
3223. rusty shakledfur | May 12, 2008 at 11:20 pm
dude man this is bad we need the music man. i am in the band UKD UnKnown Destruction. music is our passion we love it. and we throw shows and thats the only way we can help our parents with money issues and help them pay the bills and we really need this.
3224. Dustin Bouchard | May 12, 2008 at 11:21 pm
I cant believe that this city is doing this. they know how well the music scene is in chicago. why would they take that away by putting fines and shit . this ordnance is going to ruin every thing. music should be free to you ever wants to listen thats why music is turning in to crap now people just want to make money they dont really care for the music any more. if this law happens im stilling going to play music where i want they wont stop me.
i will play till i die.
3225. Corrin Salutric | May 12, 2008 at 11:21 pm
Although I am sure that there is some sort of reasoning behind this ordinance, this seems like it is just wrong. I’ve grown up at concert in Chicago, and do not love any venues as much as I love the Chicago venues. Please don’t pass this, you will be hurting more than just the local artists, you will be hurting the city that we all love.
3226. Aaron Boynton | May 12, 2008 at 11:21 pm
Wow. What a horrible idea.
3227. Sheryl Bury-Michals | May 12, 2008 at 11:21 pm
This is utterly ridiculous! Part of any city’s culture relies on a strong music scene – as in places like Austin, L.A., NYC, etc. Chicago is in the same league as these other cities. Not only do we have a variety of music to listen to, all of them get equally supported as well. I know people that have moved to Chicago for the music scene. This is an important part of the city’s culture – and history – that should NOT be tampered with by a bunch of city officials who have nothing better to do with their time. Who made them the NO FUN POLICE?
Sometimes the best places are the smaller venues in the city – I can’t tell you how many great bands I’ve seen perform in small clubs in the 20 years since I’ve moved back here from New Orleans (and having lived there, I can tell you they take their music scene VERY seriously!). I really don’t live schlepping to the burbs to see a band. I would rather support the clubs in Chicago proper.
I oppose this ordinance. It does not promote freedom of expression, which is a basic right of all Americans.
With the possibility of the Olympics coming to Chicago, a strong music scene is one feature that can be strongly promoted, and I know many visitors will flock to clubs to hear jazz, blues, alternative, etc. By passing this ordinance the city will have another reason to lose its chance for the Olympic spot.
3228. Kevin Malone | May 12, 2008 at 11:22 pm
More crazy Chicago laws. This city is out of control with its corruption and high taxes. The last thing the city should be doing is concerning itself with and destroying the amazing live music scene.
3229. Collen McCommons | May 12, 2008 at 11:22 pm
Don’t let this ordinance pass. Chicago’s music and theate scene would die if this passed. I know that a lot of Chicago bands would leave for other cities and bands from other states won’t even look at Chicago. That means that Chicago would loose a lot of money.
If this passes then I will be saying goodbye to Chicago and moving to another city.
3230. Jenn | May 12, 2008 at 11:22 pm
What is the point? What are they going to get rid of next? Don’t take away something that makes a great city so great. 100% against this.
3231. Adam Fendelman | May 12, 2008 at 11:22 pm
Adam Fendelman here. I’m an independent Chicago film and theater critic and the publisher of HollywoodChicago.com, which is a daily arts and entertainment publication out of Chicago.
I believe in the power of theater and every day curse corporate America for necessitating it to be a business. It’s a well-known fact how cash strapped theater already is and the passage of this ordinance would be nothing short of criminal.
I have also spread the word on HollywoodChicago.com to drum up support against the passage of this asinine measure:
http://www.hollywoodchicago.com/forums/2421/potentially-devastating-chicago-arts-ordinance-called-to-a-vote-on-may-14-2008
3232. Brian jacobsen | May 12, 2008 at 11:22 pm
Yup, Chicago is always hurting the little guy! They will do anything to make a quick buck!
3233. Aaron Stigberg | May 12, 2008 at 11:22 pm
This is a very counterproductive piece of legislation. Small underground shows like this bill is targeting is what makes the city a desirable place to live and what increases the tax base. On balance they are a good thing. Overregulation will kill them and decrease city revenue.
3234. Josef K | May 12, 2008 at 11:22 pm
We must keep music/artistic venues, outraged
3235. Dennis Tousana | May 12, 2008 at 11:23 pm
And why are they doing this? I think the word GREED comes to mind. I have lived in the city for 23yrs. and don’t really want to live in a place with no local music scene or cultural diversity,and not even the option too see a band or a play when I want. This is why I moved to this city from the burbs in the first place. To see the talent in the city go unheard, what a shame. Can’t they just leave well enough alone. I pay taxes and this is not the way I choose to have my tax dollars spent. Just drop it, and move on to more important things like trying to make public transportation work so you can get to a venue to see the music. Imagine a city that wants the Olympic games but has no local scene. I’d have to count that city out!!!!! This is yet another stupid ordinance put forth by people whose saleries we pay to do the things we want done. Although it seems it hardly ever happens that way.
3236. Brad | May 12, 2008 at 11:23 pm
Chicago is by far one of the best cities in the world for music. Let’s keep it that way.
3237. Matt | May 12, 2008 at 11:23 pm
they are just attacking the one last freedom of expression we have, art. this is just sad!
-Matt
3238. Joseph Wojtysiak | May 12, 2008 at 11:23 pm
really really dissapointing. I’ll gladly throw my support in to see this kind of nonsense stopped.
3239. Liza Pavelich | May 12, 2008 at 11:23 pm
Please do not allow this ordinance to pass. One of the reasons I moved to this city more than a decade ago was the prevalence of the art, theatre and music scenes. This ordinance would all but destroy our access to the arts in this city.
3240. luis perezr | May 12, 2008 at 11:23 pm
dude man this is bad we need the music man. i am in the band UKD UnKnown Destruction. music is our passion we love it. and we throw shows and thats the only way we can help our parents with money issues and help them pay the bills and we really need this. my mom needs to pay hospital bills and we need this alot save the music i say if this beacomes a law we shal revolte contact me 13124370906 f*ck this S**t man lets fu***n still do it man save the music man
3241. David Harbarger | May 12, 2008 at 11:23 pm
This is crazy talk… Chicago City Council and (in particular) Alderman Flores: Do not let this bill leave committee. It unfairly penalizes the many for the past (not to mention infrequent) transgressions of the few and is a threat to one of the country’s few truly successful independent performance communities. Please vote it down.
3242. Chuck | May 12, 2008 at 11:23 pm
I have worked in Chicago’s music scene for over 20 years and this is the most asinine thing I have ever heard of. Maybe we should focus our attention to the real problems in the city and leave the arts alone. Or is the city that broke that we need to add a fee to promoting music.
3243. NicK Monteleone | May 12, 2008 at 11:25 pm
If my alderman votes for it, he’s out. I’ll make sure of that. I suggest everyone here do the same.
3244. Elizabeth Dadabo | May 12, 2008 at 11:25 pm
This is unfair to Chicago residents who moved here for the precise purpose of taking part in local culture. This ordinance will drain this city of what makes it vibrant, unique, and viable. Do not pass this ordinance.
3245. Ron | May 12, 2008 at 11:25 pm
Lets talk history. Where did all the slaves go to write and perform music? Chicago the city of Blues music. Where was the movie the Blues Brothers based out of? Chicago. Where is Blues and Rock thriving today? Chicago. Notice a pattern here? Pass this bill and all the majestry that is Chicago is gone. If you dont care about History or the future Go ahead and pass this bill. Music will continue no matter what. Last time I looked we dont live in Russia or China. This is not a communist state. This bill is nothing more than Government Communism. Big Brother is watching. Big brother needs to worry about fuel costs and the recession. Not the local music scene. Didnt we do this in the 80′s with the P.M.R.C.. Been there done that.
3246. Erelin Deang | May 12, 2008 at 11:26 pm
Please don’t pass this ordinance. This city is one of the top cities to have music and art thrive from here. So many good musicians and artists come from here and so many more potential ones can come out of here as well. But if you pass this ordinance, smaller, indie musicians and artists won’t even have the chance. Promotion is the number one way to get yourself out there. If you take that away, then you’re taking away the music scene from Chicago. You’re taking away art from people especially younger kids who aren’t artistic.
Please don’t pass this.
3247. Mick Cullen | May 12, 2008 at 11:26 pm
What an idiotic concept. It’s not all that surprising, however– the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, and it means most of my favorite artists wouldn’t be able to manage coming through Chicago anymore.
I vehemently vote no.
3248. J Curns | May 12, 2008 at 11:26 pm
I do NOT support this ordinance.
3249. Kiri Aho | May 12, 2008 at 11:26 pm
uh, this sounds really stupid. i dont think there could possibly be a truly valid reason to do this. let’s not.
3250. courtney | May 12, 2008 at 11:26 pm
This will only hurt the subcultures within the community. VOTE NO!
3251. jorge ramirez | May 12, 2008 at 11:26 pm
yea call me two lets fu**in start a march for our music 17734749634
3252. Brian Goodman | May 12, 2008 at 11:26 pm
Support culture. It’s not just entertainment, it’s how some people make a living. Let me know if there are other ways to help.
3253. Gabe Gorsline | May 12, 2008 at 11:27 pm
less taxes + more culture = vibrant city
3254. leah | May 12, 2008 at 11:27 pm
please do not pass the ordinance.
please.
3255. Kevin J | May 12, 2008 at 11:27 pm
This will halt the spread of modern bands/music. People will not be able to do what they love, i dont know what the problem is…why
3256. Sean Shipley | May 12, 2008 at 11:27 pm
Surely our representatives would not be so ignorant as to pass an ordinance without properly assessing the full scope of it’s effect.
While I’m certain the primary concern of this ordinance is to protect their constituents, the shortsightedness of this draft would leave a greater mark on the cultural landscape of Chicago than can possibly be imagined.
This ordinance would create useless beurocracy and only server to waste tax-payer’s time and money while limiting The Arts. This is probably the most senseless, anti-American thing I’ve ever heard. What would be next? A good old-fashioned book-burning?
I am a tax-paying citizen who works full-time. But when I’m not at work, I play music. In bands. The people you seek to punish with this ordinance are not doing anything wrong or dangerous. Please pass an ordinance that takes aim at the ever-increasing murder rate. There are no guns at loft shows.
3257. Cathy Palmer | May 12, 2008 at 11:27 pm
The city can’t seem to control the illegal drug traffic that is trying to hide behind the veil of, “Club’ and “Concert Promoters.”
Destroying the smaller, but legitimate Arts and Music cultures that generate revenue and pay taxes is not the solution.
The Promoter’s Ordinance is not a quick or long term fix for the city’s problems. If anything, it will drive the worst offenders deeper underground, thus making it even harder to police.
The closing of the smaller clubs that support the Arts and the Music Industry will take away jobs, tourism and turn some neighborhoods back into ghost towns in which there will be no foot traffic to support the need to open legitimate businesses. With that, you are returning the streets back to the gangs, and the residents of said neighborhoods will no longer be safe and will move away, like they did 20 years ago.
I oppose the Promoter’s Ordinance.
3258. heather | May 12, 2008 at 11:28 pm
this is completely ridiculous. the only people being hurt are the little ones and the only people being helped are the big ones, per usual, per daley.
3259. Aliza Morell | May 12, 2008 at 11:28 pm
I SERIOUSLY OBJECT to the this promoters ordinance as I believe that it would severally harm the cities vibrant culture, which depends on the myriad of arts events organized on a community level.
3260. Nigel Mack | May 12, 2008 at 11:28 pm
We used to play a place in NYC called ‘Manny’s Carwash’, but Rudy Giuliani’s version of the ‘Promoters Ordinance’ let to it’s demise, and many other clubs in NYC. Does the Mayor want the same fate to befall Chicago?
Culture is not a ‘Starbucks’ on every corner!
A BIG ‘NO’ FROM ME!
3261. Kathryn | May 12, 2008 at 11:28 pm
omg biggest load of crap ever!!!!
3262. Ryan Mehaffey | May 12, 2008 at 11:29 pm
Being a friend of several band members in the chicagoland area I know how rough it is to get started. The oppurtunities presented by local venues is what keeps these local bands alive and what has given this city the reputation it has for producing some of the best bands in the world. With the loss of the music scene, chicago will lose some of the most dedicated activists in the world. Allowing this to happen will end all of the great things Chicago’s music scene is known for and ruin the oppurtunities that the members of that culture offer. Please do not be the murderer of one of Chicago’s greatest aspects.
3263. Michael Kelly | May 12, 2008 at 11:29 pm
I am shocked to learn of the “promoters ordinance.” It is a terrible idea that will surely silence independent music in Chicago! What will be next? Nonprofit storefront theater? This idiotic ordinance will strike a crippling blow to performing artists in Chicago! I just can’t believe this can happen. Where are we living? We must not let this happen. I will urge my Alderman to oppose this. Anyone and everyone who loves culture in Chicago must stand up and prevent this travesty! Contact your Alderman and let she or he know you oppose this ordinance! Don’t let the City Council kill music and entertainment in Chicago! This is unbelievable.
3264. AJ | May 12, 2008 at 11:29 pm
This is ridiculous! Save Chicago culture!!!
3265. Megan | May 12, 2008 at 11:29 pm
Passing this ordinance would be a BIG mistake. What a way to make Chicago boring and uninspired….
WAKE UP city hall! the kids will have their say
3266. bill kamper | May 12, 2008 at 11:29 pm
What good is this for the city? For Us?
Please oppose this. It’s a law for the big guys. It puts more burden on small arts venues and events, it just another attempt to ween more money out of business in this city, and ultimately, us. It’s getting too expensive to live here, shop here, and play here. Stop the insanity.
Bill Kamper
3267. Brad Bukauskas | May 12, 2008 at 11:29 pm
As artists we should be allowed to share our craft with people interested in it. Storefront theatre companies and bands spend enough money trying to market their work. Those costs alone make it difficult for Chicago artists to continue funding our projects. The council should take this into consideration.
3268. Tyler Wolff-Ormes | May 12, 2008 at 11:30 pm
I would like to register my concern regarding this bill. Please don’t pass it. It is, quite frankly, bullshit.
3269. Dwight E. Banks | May 12, 2008 at 11:30 pm
As a musician and lifelong follower of cultural events in Chicago, I feel that this ordinance is an assault on all areas of imagination and freedom of artistic expression. Very sad.
3270. Ben Zendeli | May 12, 2008 at 11:31 pm
There is no way this will ever pass. The city makes too much money from promoters.
3271. ankur raniwala | May 12, 2008 at 11:31 pm
terrible!! DONT DO IT.
3272. Bethany | May 12, 2008 at 11:31 pm
I don’t even live anywhere near Chicago, but enough good music comes out of this city that it involves everyone. This will kill the music scene and if this spreads to other cities, where does that leave us musicians?
3273. Sergio | May 12, 2008 at 11:32 pm
the only question i have is
why are they doing this? i dont see how any benefits on this!!!
is it the money?
or simply that the government does not want any kind of art?
3274. Becky | May 12, 2008 at 11:32 pm
This is nonsense.
This is the artistic equivalent of corporate welfare. Don’t punish the small guys for choosing to stay small. Some people prefer tiny and dark venues to $60 concerts at Soldier Field.
3275. Eric W. | May 12, 2008 at 11:32 pm
Sometimes I think they introduce laws just to see if we’re paying attention. God save us they day we’re caught looking the other direction. I can’t imagine any justification for such ridiculous regulations on public expression.
3276. Sam Balfour | May 12, 2008 at 11:32 pm
Wow, is Chicago seriously gonna send itself back to the stone age? Underground creativity is what bubbles up and defines ages of culture and moves our economy. Unimaginative ignorant people that think keeping the noise down is in the best interest need to be stopped.
3277. John | May 12, 2008 at 11:32 pm
I just sent this to my alderman!
Dear Alderman Burnett:
I am a musician and local music lover. I STRONGLY oppose the ordinance you will be voting on Wednesday, to change the rules of doing business with local music venues. It doesn’t make sense, and it will hurt the vibrancy and commerce of the local music world in Chicago. PLEASE VOTE AGAINST IT.
Thank you,
John Leonard,
524 N May APT 1
60622
3278. Paul Foppe | May 12, 2008 at 11:32 pm
This is just not good. Going to Navy Pier and to downtown is already stale with a lack of street vendors and independent promoters.
3279. Patty Bologna | May 12, 2008 at 11:32 pm
How do you think the Beatles started? This is so sad if this is allowed to be accepted. Being forced to sign up with a money hungry promoter. People from all over visit Chicago to get the chance to enjoy fresh new talent. This ordinance would prevent diversity. To refresh your memory the movie industry turned their heads on Chicago because of a similiar ordinance like this.
3280. Devan Lane | May 12, 2008 at 11:32 pm
This is ridiculous.
3281. Bobby Hilliard | May 12, 2008 at 11:32 pm
Do not let this pass!
If you want kill the unique vision that Chicago has and drive away an entire culture of artists and musicians and the like to other cities, go ahead.
You’ll be sorry when no one with an open mind ever considers voting again.
3282. Amanda Castillo | May 12, 2008 at 11:32 pm
DON’T LET THIS LAW PASS!
3283. Gina Pantone | May 12, 2008 at 11:33 pm
This is just one more blatant attempt to market and control our art, using vague language and imposing criminal fees to stifle struggling performers. Our music scene here is sacred to many people, please do not eliminate our local music and theater by replacing it with more corporate logos and mascots. Please do not pass this ordinance.
-Gina
3284. Shawn Earhart | May 12, 2008 at 11:33 pm
This is ridiculous, and needs to stop before it starts.
3285. Doug | May 12, 2008 at 11:33 pm
Some of the best bands have come from Chicago and more are sure to come. Keep Chicago music alive!!
3286. Tori House | May 12, 2008 at 11:34 pm
This is unbelievable. Chicago is the greatest bastion in our country of up start art, this ordinance is the worst idea since the bottle water tax
3287. Vince Meno | May 12, 2008 at 11:34 pm
I am both a former musician and frequent patron of many music clubs, theaters, art galleries, and other venues. This city should encourage more independent art and creativity, and not try to restrict what is innately free and expressive. I can understand the good intentions that went into this proposed ordinance, but this should be more publicized/scrutinized by the artistic community before hastily being passed as law. I definitely oppose this ordinance.
Sincerely,
VINCE MENO
3288. ryan | May 12, 2008 at 11:34 pm
entertainment law written by those who are too far removed from the arts and live artistic performances to understand the implications.
or….
typical chicago politics. just another way to get their hands into someone’s pockets of the little guy.
either way…..
boo!!!!!!!!!
3289. neli g | May 12, 2008 at 11:34 pm
stop crazy idialist not the awesome creative minds of wonderfull artist and performers who enrich the cultural and social structure of Chicago
3290. William Swann | May 12, 2008 at 11:35 pm
Music is the only reason why I come to that city, and the reason why my heart still lives there.
3291. Beka | May 12, 2008 at 11:35 pm
I don’t even live here anymore and I can’t believe this! I’m so outraged!
3292. Alfred Gomez | May 12, 2008 at 11:35 pm
Cultural Freedom
3293. Rochelle Gordon | May 12, 2008 at 11:35 pm
If this ordinace passes, Chicago will become the worse than second rate and not taken seriously as a place worthy of destination or residence. I think we need to send a strong message to the city’s alderman – “if this proposal becomes law – you are out of a job – we will see to it.”
3294. Dan | May 12, 2008 at 11:36 pm
As a musician I moved to Chicago from Philadelphia over a year ago for the fact that Chicago has the most eclectic and respected independent music scenes in the county. If this ordinance is passed I will shortly pack my bags again. Popular Chicago bands, like Wilco, Tortoise etc, would not exist without the small clubs which they came up from. This will be a blow to every music, art and theater fan in the country and world.
3295. Louis | May 12, 2008 at 11:36 pm
We all try to take advantage of the great things this city offers. Why go out of your way to prohibit these assets from being all that they can be?
3296. Michael Monar | May 12, 2008 at 11:37 pm
Another handout to big business and corporate constituencies; this bill serves only to reinforce the unpleasant trend of hyper mediated pop culture. At least we’ll still be able to see Hannah Montana at the Rosemont Horizon….. I mean Allstate Arena. Stop this ordinance and start enforcing laws already in effect to protect concert/event attendees.
3297. Katie Zabielski | May 12, 2008 at 11:38 pm
Chicago’s music scene has produced some of the greatest acts in history. Where will we be if the next Muddy Waters or Koko Taylor or Billy Corgan gets lost in the shuffle? We’ve already lost Marshall Field’s. Don’t let the music be next.
3298. Erin Guzik | May 12, 2008 at 11:38 pm
This is insane. Absolutely horrible. Music and art are used as an outlet for many children, and adults. It has kept me out of the streets and doing good with my life. Without music, and without the Chicago music scene, I would be left without a healthy place to vent, have fun, and learn. To take away the livelihood of so many smaller bands, with so many great things to say through their music, and from artists who write, create, and show fabulous ideas is to take away the first amendment right of so many Chicagoans. I have never, in the 10 years I have been attending shows and events felt unsafe or in a position of danger while at a show. In fact, a smaller venue, like the Metro, is more safe than those of larger proportions. Where there is a will, there is a way! CHICAGO WILL NOT LOSE IT’S MUSIC SCENE!! LET YOUR VOICES BE HEARD!!!
PEACE.
LOVE.
CHICAGO MUSIC.
Erin A. Guzik
3299. Elizabeth Connaghan | May 12, 2008 at 11:39 pm
this new ordinance is completely unacceptable. please let it NOT happen!!!!! it will RUIN a ridiculously huge part of what makes Chicago such an amazing cultural city!!!!!!
3300. molly | May 12, 2008 at 11:39 pm
smaller shows and venues are the heart of culture here, and in pretty much every city. why on earth would anyone think that placing these types of restrictions on them is a good idea?
3301. Kayla | May 12, 2008 at 11:39 pm
I do not support this ordinance.
3302. Lindie Caldecott | May 12, 2008 at 11:39 pm
As a young musician and lover of shows, this sounds like a terrible idea. It will stifle the creativity and outlet of so many people just beginning to perform for live audiences because they won’t be able to afford to play or perform anywhere. While the theory is maybe good, providing more time for police to be aware and prepared for a gathering of people, the manner suggested would be too severe and limiting. I wholeheardtedly oppose this ordinance.
-Lindie Caldecott.
3303. Davin Mehrbani | May 12, 2008 at 11:40 pm
This will cause nothing but harm to the amazing cultural scene we have in Chicago. Please, do not pass this ordinance.
3304. Ian | May 12, 2008 at 11:40 pm
As many people have said before, really this does not help anyone, and will stop small acts from booking shows and then in return stop people from going because the tickets would have to be more expensive for the acts to cover that. This would not help out, really in such a time extreme world stress you would take out the means to experience art and music in a way that is so rich and unique to Chicago.
Please don’t.
3305. ANITA M. PUTMAN | May 12, 2008 at 11:40 pm
CHICAGO IS KNOWN FOR IT’S ENTERTAINMENT. DUE TO THE INCREASING COST OF LIVING, ADDING ADDITIONAL FEES TO OUR ENTERTAINERS WILL FLOW DOWNWARD TO THE LITTLE MAN. WE MUST STAND UP AND SAY “NO MORE”! FREE AND/OR MINIMAL COST ENTERTAINMENT ALLOW INDIVIDUAL’S AN OUTLET TO REMOVE INNER STRESSER. PRAISE THE LORD FOR ENTERTAINERS LIKE DEE ALEXANDER. HER FREE SPIRIT HAS TOUCHED SO MANY INDIVIDUAL’S DAILY LIVES.
3306. Ashley | May 12, 2008 at 11:40 pm
Such bs
You shouldn’t have to pay to promote shows.
3307. Chris | May 12, 2008 at 11:40 pm
Tsk tsk Chicago. You know better than this. Take your bad ideas and go home. Don’t come out again until you’ve learned your lesson. Shame on the person that came up with this idea.
3308. Chris Tannehill | May 12, 2008 at 11:41 pm
Not only will this damage an already struggling independant music scene, but it makes it even harder for young, enterprising business people to learn the ins and outs of the music industry.
3309. Ron | May 12, 2008 at 11:41 pm
Here is a thought. Lets pass an ordinance to ban all the city parades and marathons. Lets take away St. Pattys day and ban dyeing the river green. Lets ban sports and any other event the city finds acceptable.Lets ban drinking and go back to the days of proibition. No fun no freedom. Lets ban the building of statues and monuments. They just take up space and collect bird droppings. Let get rid of all museums and all history of Chicago. Hey this sound just as dumb as passing this music ordinance. Vote NO.
3310. jason ellis | May 12, 2008 at 11:42 pm
I thought Chicago was famous for its musical culture? I just read about how the Mayor wants t put live music in the airport! The little guys are the last people who matter in this city… As a professional musician, I love that we AREN’T LA or NYC, and that we can actually express ourselves, without concern for restriction and barrier. Chicago is the last city in America where you can be a strong young voice and make a living without selling out completely!
Besides. This move will guarantee that your kids go to lame frat bars and chug bad beer every Friday for ten years.
3311. Michael Woyan | May 12, 2008 at 11:42 pm
This is NOT very well thought out…another case of government throwing the baby out with the bath water! A complete revision is needed on the ordinance.
3312. Stephanie Majka | May 12, 2008 at 11:42 pm
This will change the city of Chicago as a whole. While trying to raise more money for the city, you are hurting the culture and residents.
as stated previously “entertainment law written by those who are too far removed from the arts and live artistic performances to understand the implications.
3313. Matt McNabb | May 12, 2008 at 11:42 pm
Chicago boasts its “thriving” theatre and arts scene. Well my friends, the life-blood of that thriving scene is the smaller theatres, the local bands and the independent artists. This ordinance is in the hands of politicians who have no idea the destruction they could cause. But they MUST know! As an actor in the process of building my own theatre company, the wind is literally knocked out of me right now. Pursuing our passion should not come with penalties.
3314. Bob Drew | May 12, 2008 at 11:43 pm
The variety of shows available in this city are as key to this city’s prosperity as the variety of restaurants and shops. People live in the city, and pay its property & sales taxes, because of the richness of city life. The City of Chicago relies on this richness of city life for its economic vitality, no longer on the factories and the slaughterhouses. Start chipping away at this richness and you risk jeopardizing the city’s prosperity. Alderpersons, do the right thing!
3315. Jon Ferguson | May 12, 2008 at 11:44 pm
This is pretty frickin’ ridiculous. I’m not sure why this was proposed or who it benefits, but it’s definitely going to hurt a lot of people.
-Jon Ferguson
3316. Bil Gaines | May 12, 2008 at 11:44 pm
This ordinance is absolutely unacceptable. As someone who is starting a brand new theatre company in town, this extra cost and extra time we will have to put up will literally prevent us from producing the shows we want to produce. And I don’t think my own little company is the only one who will disappear.
And if my own little theatre company disappears, I’ll have plenty of free time to dedicate to getting my alderman out of office, as well as every other alderman who voted to destroy the reputation Chicago has as a world-class arts destination. Just sayin’.
3317. Mike Eldorrado | May 12, 2008 at 11:44 pm
Dear Chicago Council,
I was born in Chicago in the mid 1950′s. I recall my father and others talking about the great days when the smaller clubs had people like Sarah Vaughan, Cab Colloway, and Nat King Cole stopping in to play a few numbers after playing at a larger venue earlier that evening. Now, I have people from other cities asking me questions like … “Whatever happened to the Jazz scene in Chicago?” and, “I thought this was the home of the Blues…” – What can I say? I’m ashamed. I don’t know how to answer their questions….
Maybe you can.
3318. Rebecca | May 12, 2008 at 11:44 pm
I oppose the Promoter’s Ordinance full full heartedly
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3319. Alex Moree | May 12, 2008 at 11:44 pm
What is a person or a group of people without culture? Is this a sign of people desiring to live in a stringent, business-only world?
Please, let us keep our self-expression.
For countless people, it’s the only way to keep living with our soul intact
3320. Dan Zec | May 12, 2008 at 11:44 pm
This is a disgusting proposal, and the fact that the powers that be are trying to sneak it by shows that they realize exactly how disgusting it is.
3321. B. Farrell | May 12, 2008 at 11:44 pm
stop the ordinance!
3322. Justin White | May 12, 2008 at 11:45 pm
Fuck that
3323. Morgan | May 12, 2008 at 11:45 pm
Awful. Come on..really?
I do NOT support this ordinance.
3324. Lauren Parker | May 12, 2008 at 11:46 pm
This is so insane. This ordinance needs to be thrown out.
3325. Sarah G | May 12, 2008 at 11:46 pm
I find this to be incredibly intrusive in the chicago art scene. Completley irrational.
3326. Tanav Popli | May 12, 2008 at 11:46 pm
I’ve grown up on Chicago’s music scene, being a musician from the NW Indiana suburbs. I couldn’t imagine it being so diverse, flowing and varied if these ordinances go into place. Not to mention the loss of such a large piece of American music history.
It’s unthinkable to enact such measures
So please don’t think about it.
3327. Bryan | May 12, 2008 at 11:46 pm
I’m a self promoting musician. I can’t pay to play shows.
3328. patrick | May 12, 2008 at 11:46 pm
what possible good can come of this?
3329. Josh Moshier | May 12, 2008 at 11:46 pm
The city is trying pick-pocket artists, and we’re not talking about very deep pockets… I oppose the ordinance, as a musician and active music listener/supporter/resident. Please don’t let this pass.
3330. Armands Revelins | May 12, 2008 at 11:46 pm
Small event promotion is a crucial element of urban cultural life and the arts. It is a way for communities to express themselves with authenticity and individuality, and provides meaningful opportunities for people of various ages to get together and celebrate acts and performances of aesthetic merit. If this bill passes, it will remove the cultural heart of Chicago life that is also its charm, and it will discourage young and independent people from finding a voice through the arts. Don’t pass this bill.
3331. Jason | May 12, 2008 at 11:48 pm
Leave Chicago the way it is! The way it’s meant to be! :]
3332. Joanb | May 12, 2008 at 11:48 pm
This ordinance will be yet another nail in Chicago’s coffin. The gentrification and taxation in Chicago has already sounded the death nell for the exciting, vibrant city Chicago once was. If this ordinance passes, it will just take another chunk out of our once great city. It’s bad enough REAL Chicagoans can barely afford to live in the city anymore, now they want to push the REAL musicians and the REAL venues out, too ! Shame on Chicago’s City Council….once again!
CHI PUNK RULES !!! OK !!!
3333. Kieran Hartnett | May 12, 2008 at 11:48 pm
Please stop this ordinance!
3334. Heather S | May 12, 2008 at 11:49 pm
Its already hard as it is for bands, promoters & smaller venues w/out these additional fees & requirements.
I can remember going to places like the metro & double door for 12+ years now, these were the best times of my life…and to think it may end is sickening. Music blues/rock is the heart of the city, this will hurt all the small venues & performers & in turn, hurt the heart & culture of the city.
I say no to this proposed ordinance; If they find it absolutely necessary, there should be exceptions & different levels of fee’s & requirements depending on the individual performer, promoter or venues situation.
3335. Elizabeth Connaghan | May 12, 2008 at 11:49 pm
please do not RUIN such a ridiculously huge party of Chicago’s culture. it is part of what makes this city so incredibly unique. by putting up this new ordinance, it will destroy one of the best parts of what Chicago has to offer. For the love of the city of Chicago and its immense influence on the world of music as a whole, dont do this!
sincerly,
a potential broken heart~
-Elizabeth Connaghan
3336. Amy R | May 12, 2008 at 11:49 pm
I’m saddened by the announcement of this ordinance. This is awful. Please protect all art and performances — don’t harm it.
3337. Anne Peterson | May 12, 2008 at 11:49 pm
This is sad and ridiculous. What purpose does this really serve?
3338. Monica | May 12, 2008 at 11:50 pm
Do not pass this ordinance. Our beautiful Chicago would be nothing without the music and arts. Do not punish our small venues for trying to give us amazing shows at a cheap price.
- Chicago Resident
3339. Mike McCarthy | May 12, 2008 at 11:50 pm
Do not pass the bill.
3340. Corey Wilkes | May 12, 2008 at 11:51 pm
Flag on the play!!!
As a full-time musician, teacher, Jazz Institute of Chicago board member, etc…I believe that this is one of the most ridiculous and disrespectful ordinances ever imposed on the music community. It’s already hard enough for an artist to make a living doing what they love and now this blatant smack in the face.
-Corey Wilkes
3341. Karin Shook | May 12, 2008 at 11:51 pm
Unbelievable. Chicago loves to brag about its diverse, dynamic cultural scene – boasting about hundreds of off-loop theater companies and claiming as “Chicago’s Own” local artists who achieve any kind of success on a national level. And all the while, the city seems to be doing everything it can to shut itself down and push its actors, writers, directors, dancers, and musicians to New York. It’s pathetic and embarrassing.
3342. Orion Layton | May 12, 2008 at 11:51 pm
This is a bad ordinance.
3343. sam macy | May 12, 2008 at 11:52 pm
what scares me is how i (and most of us i presume) knew nothing about this until today. how out of touch can chicago’s elected leaders be with the cultural landscape of this city? were they thinking of passing this ordinance right under our noses? there are thousands of working artists in this city and millions who benefit from our “product” financially, and spiritually. lets not suppress art. a city’s cultural treasures form its personality and its face. passing this ordinance would be like pulling the plug on chicago and so many of its artists and actors and musicians who have worked so hard to bring a little life here. I FIRMLY OPPOSE THIS ORDINANCE.
3344. Gary O'Hara | May 12, 2008 at 11:52 pm
I recently returned from a visit to San Antonio and Austin, Texas. In downtown Austin, there stands a statue celebrating a favorite son, Stevie Ray Vaughan, the internationally recognized blues musician.
Chicago, on the other hand, boasts a seemingly endless line-up of musical talent streaming forth from our among our citizens to bless the rest of humanity with excellence in virtually every style and genre of music. It is one of the greatest treasures our city offers to the world.
Fans of great music in other cities throughout the globe have mentioned the name of my town, Chicago, in almost sacred tones when I’ve mentioned “my kind of town.” Heck, even “the Chairman” proclaimed his affinity for the home of the Blues. We are a world-class music community as evidenced by repeated statements by people such as Eric Clapton and the Rolling Stones.
Why, then, would you consider penalizing the already starving artist by increasing the heavy burdens they already shoulder? Most musicians I’ve known have contemplated moving to a music capital such as LA, NY, or Nashville at some time in their lives. Essentially, this ordinance will prompt a mass exodus of most of the serious musical talent once and for all, or they’ll simply quit playing out live. Chicago will become a musical ghost town where people will wistfully recall our glory days.
Please don’t do this. It’s tough enough to try to eek out a living this way. But at least we thought the city leaders understood and appreciated what cultural value we added to the great town we call home. Were we wrong?
3345. Jack Colville | May 12, 2008 at 11:53 pm
This is a bad idea, please reconsider.
3346. Cameron Clark | May 12, 2008 at 11:53 pm
Ridiculous.
3347. phillip hoover | May 12, 2008 at 11:53 pm
this is the stupidest thing i have heard in my life……this disgusts me to no end. who would want to end chi town
‘s local music? what’s to gain? who would want to suck the life out of this city….i’m not from chicago, but the music is one of the reasons that i love coming to this city. please do not take one of the only things in my life that gives it meaning away from me
3348. James R. Kolasinski, Jr. | May 12, 2008 at 11:54 pm
This is unheard of. As a musician born and raised in Chicago, I’ve spent a major part of my life trying to think outside the box. Trying to take away the rights to free speech and freedom of expression is not the answer. I believe if you don’t like the way something is you should go somewhere else where you can find that comfort rather than try to pass a law that will force others to become soldiers for your so called army. These 3287+ comments/signatures is proof that we will not have our lives run by someone else. This country, this city was built on freedoms and taking those freedoms away will only make those doing it look bad. Do not pass this law. Do not throw away your freedom for a buck.
3349. Dylan Watkins | May 12, 2008 at 11:54 pm
What’s going to happen to local musicians if this happens? Getting to see cool smallish shows is the only reason I moved to a city like Chicago in the first place. And because I am a musician myself and wanted to become a part of the scene. This would make it really hard to find a place where I can play. And the same goes for a lot of other folks out there. There are musicians out there that play because they love it and not for money. And there happen to be a few venues out there that support that idea. And I would like them to continue doing what they do. . .
3350. Alex Wilson | May 12, 2008 at 11:54 pm
More music, less bull. How hard is that to figure out? Might a suggest an ordinance entitled “Promote the Promoters” designed to help out those brave souls who try to enrich our lives by bringing us music…
3351. Tom | May 12, 2008 at 11:54 pm
This ordinance is clearly not in the best interest of Chicago’s residents. It should not be passed.
3352. JoAnne | May 12, 2008 at 11:54 pm
As a person who has spent the majority of my life in the entertainment business, it truely saddens me the hear that the culture center is being forced to close their doors.
Without the culture center, many of our young African American children will have no way of being educated about their musical heritage. This is so important because for many years African Americans have lived their lives through music and entertaining other people who respects their work.
I am begging and pleading that the doors of the culture center to remain open!
Sincerely,
JoAnne
3353. Elizabeth Conroy | May 12, 2008 at 11:55 pm
Without Chicago’s cultural history, this great city would be nothing.
Our culture is our pride! Don’t destroy that.
3354. Caramia Cusano | May 12, 2008 at 11:55 pm
This is ridiculous and cannot be allowed to happen! If this becomes a law what happens to all of the artists that have made this place a home? What will happen to the artistic underground? You will kill the music and voices that make this city beautiful and thriving!
3355. Stepheny Norasingh | May 12, 2008 at 11:56 pm
so much for being excited to move to chicago in the fall..
3356. Christine | May 12, 2008 at 11:56 pm
Aldermen and women, please – in the name of all that is creative and cultural – do not pass this bill.
3357. Gregory Maples | May 12, 2008 at 11:57 pm
This is a step in the WRONG DIRECTION. Its already hard enough for some music scenes, to exist at all. Chicago should be DE-REGULATING!!
Punk Rockers, Hardcore-Metal Kids, and Experimental Weirdos are already treated like criminals for trying to share their music with eachother (not conventional enough for established venues so they are forced to do it underground). You think this is going to stop a damn thing? You are just criminalizing something which should be celebrated.
You can outlaw the rain, but the clouds will still form.
3358. Daniel Hanrahan | May 12, 2008 at 11:59 pm
Virtually 100% of my social circle, which is vast and diverse, is in Chicago principally for its cultural offerings and opportunities. This ordinace would be suicidal for the city on so many levels.
Daniel Hanrahan
Edgewater
3359. Vinnie Bologna | May 12, 2008 at 11:59 pm
CONTACT THE ALDERMANS!
They need to know, they can get our voices through! We must do more than just blog about this! We can and will prevent this!
3360. Stephanie Stachura | May 12, 2008 at 11:59 pm
Chicago is one of the largest cities in the Midwest, home of blues, jazz and soul, for the younger crowd, Lolla and Pitchfork. It’s the birthplace of house music, and the breeding ground for various other genres. An ordinance to do what, to reduce the city to rubble? Are you out of your mind? Life in this city will suffer in more ways than one if this is passed.
Please don’t kill my scene.
3361. Michael Nameche | May 13, 2008 at 12:00 am
This would have a very negative effect on music in our city. Another thing that it would negatively impact is non-profit fundraisers. This can not pass!!!
3362. S. Minarik | May 13, 2008 at 12:00 am
I disapprove of this ordinance’s passing entirely, but because I’m pretty sure you won’t read all these messages individually, I will keep it short, for the sake of my number being accounted for.
Having a promoter of any kind of event jump through so many asinine hurdles to put on an event will severely stifle the creative possibilities for Chicago, and the surrounding community. Those wishing to keep cultural activities limited to gigantic venues, do the American thing and keep silent. but to the others, I would encourage you to speak up and voice your disapproval.
I have made my stand.
-S.
3363. M. Hartwig | May 13, 2008 at 12:01 am
As a member of two bands for 2+ years each, I can effectively say that if this were to pass and apply to bands that do their own booking, we would NEVER be able to play in the city of Chicago. We can barely afford equipment and travel expenses as it is, much less liscensing fees, insurance, or a $500 charge to play a show. Besides that, not one member of either band is 21, so we couldn’t even apply if we wanted to and had the money. This bill would effectively stifle creative outlets within city limits, and for a city with such rich and varied cultural history, that would be a real travesty.
3364. michael kodak | May 13, 2008 at 12:01 am
This is absolutely ridiculous. How could such an amazing city, which has done nothing but grow to be such a landmark to culture around the world, begin now making such stupid ass decisions like this? Do you want to see more of your children out doing god knows what type of drugs and getting into more trouble than you could ever imagine? Why don’t all you decision making political FOOLs leave well enough alone. Is making money really all you think about? I guarantee by doing this, you lose more money than you gain because the ones who pay money for 2 or 3 hours of musical bliss will no longer venture to this beautiful city.
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3366. Tyler B | May 13, 2008 at 12:01 am
This is a scary ordinance that absolutely can not and should not be considered.
3367. Darlene Lesiak | May 13, 2008 at 12:01 am
DO NOT PASS THIS BILL.
Chicago economy thrives on independent artists. Charging people for a that hardly have enough money for production of their shows will not only hinder expression but the economy. Plenty of venues throughout Chicago depend on these performers to bring in people for auxiliary income – such as bar/food sales. This will drop drastically with the addition of these fees.
In addition, PEOPLE WILL MOVE AWAY. Yes, really. When your art is your life and it will cost too much to continue it in your environment, you will find a new one.
Passing this bill would be a huge mistake.
3368. Marlena H. | May 13, 2008 at 12:01 am
take away the music and then what’s next? passing this would be like slapping chicago in the face from what it was built on and known for. music is an art form; save the arts.
3369. Michael J. Jones | May 13, 2008 at 12:02 am
We are the artists and musicians who help to bring culture and diversity to the city. We help make it the beautiful and interesting place that it is. Most if nearly not all of us can barely afford to pay our heat and electric. With that being said, how can we be expected to comply with an ordinance that is beyond the capability of nearly every musician within the city and surrounding areas?
If this ordinance passes, the music will die. It will fade into nothing, and Chicago will become a hollow shell of what it once was.
3370. Karen Youkhana | May 13, 2008 at 12:03 am
This is outrageous exceeding the bounds of what is reasonable or expected.
Our great Mayor of the city of Chicago prides himself in furthering the city’s name as a cultural center. If this is passed all his hard work will have been in vain. We need in the city places were are kids can go to take part in music and the arts. Our young people can not afford to go out to the suburbs nor do they have transportation. We need to keep our city alive and our children close to home!
3371. Danielle | May 13, 2008 at 12:03 am
Who would dream up such a ludicrous idea. Please save Chicago!!
3372. Clashl | May 13, 2008 at 12:03 am
Its degrading that we have to beg for the right to create and celebrate the arts with eachother.
Shame on everyone who had anything to do with this legislation.
On a lighter note…response to this legislation – IF ITS PASSED – could possibly unify the fractured and fragmented arts scenes of chicago. YOU DON”T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE MESSING WITH!!!!
3373. Elena Ybarra | May 13, 2008 at 12:03 am
What??
WHAT??
Oh, dear, this is beyond ridiculous. So many of my personally favorite bands have called Chicago their home, their first and only home, thanks to the music scene. A lot of them started out with next to nothing in funds and what equipment they could afford or borrow.
To shut down the future of so many promising artists, and possibly drive away the ones who still choose Chicago as a venue…. that’s just… AUGH. It’s infuriating.
Please, don’t let this pass. PLEASE.
3374. Ron | May 13, 2008 at 12:04 am
I have a shoe booked at Nite Cap on june 7th. If this bill passes I will be pulling the show and moving it to Rockford. There they appreciate the local musicians and the music scene. Stop this bill and come show support for the local scene. Come support the artists and the heritage of the city of Chicago. Hope to see you all at Nite Cap June 7th.
3375. M. Oliphant | May 13, 2008 at 12:05 am
This is the letter I wrote to my alderman, please feel free to use as a template for your own.
(to find your alderman, click the link above)
Alderman :
As a resident of your Ward, I would like to strongly urge you to vote against the Promoter’s Ordinance on Wednesday 14 May. The ordinance, as it is written, is too vague in its definition of a promoter, and will unfairly penalize up-and-coming artists and smaller venues. Chicago has a rich history of culture and music, due in no small part to bands that book and promote their own shows, and limited theatrical engagements. This ordinance will severely curtail the kinds of performances upon which much of our reputation as a city of the arts is founded.
We need an ordinance to ensure that disasters similar to E2 never happen again, but we do not need THIS reactionary piece of legislation. The people of Chicago deserve an ordinance that is well-worded and well-researched, and that preserves our tradition of fostering artists at all stages of their careers.
I truly believe this ordinance, if passed, will do more harm than good, and so I implore you to vote against it on Wednesday.
Thank you,
3376. Thomas Matta | May 13, 2008 at 12:06 am
As a professional musician and college educator, I find this new proposal to be outrageous, inhibiting, and stifling to live music in the great city of Chicago – one of the leading centers of new, innovative, exciting music in all of the world!
Chicago’s rich musical history and future is at stake here!
Please do not let this proposal pass – VOTE NO!!!!
Sincerely,
Thomas Matta
3377. Mike McNamara | May 13, 2008 at 12:06 am
This is ridiculous. Anyone who votes to support this must be voted out of office immediately — no matter what the political machine of this city says. All supporters of this will be removed from office at the next possible moment. The people will speak LOUDLY. Chicago is nobody’s Second City.
3378. larry carpenter | May 13, 2008 at 12:06 am
Re-think this resolution. The resolution, while trying to solve a real problem, creates un-realistic obstacles for producers, artists and performers. The resolution is not in the best interest of the Chicago arts community, nor for the habitants of this great city, and even more, for the tourists of Chicago. If passed, it will only make those who choose to go underground go more underground making them much more appealing to the youth and therefore even more more subversive.
I ask you to rethink this ordinance as it exists.
Larry Carpenter
3379. M. Oliphant | May 13, 2008 at 12:07 am
(link is attached to my name)
3380. Steven Schnur | May 13, 2008 at 12:08 am
This will put every small music venue in the city out of business. $500+ for every show? Most small venues + band cut is only about $500 in the first place. The band is already doing it for cost, the venue only makes $ on food and bev sales. Indie rock clubs, historic blues clubs, say goodbye to them. Don’t do it!
3381. Doug Herlihy | May 13, 2008 at 12:08 am
Daley has made it impossible for small production companies to shoot movies in Chicago. Most all movies set in Chicago are now filmed in Canada on a “Chicago” set. This new idea of Daley and his band of followers is just the same. Small promoters will never be able to grow up to be big promoters. By this, people won’t be able to have parties in their own home. No more family reunions in the park. No more block parties. No more “unique” nights at night clubs. etc. All of these groups will not be able to afford even $100 for licenses.
It should also be up to the venues to require a promoter to hold extra insurance above and beyond the venues insurance.
Daley seems to only do things to get more money to hire his friends and friends of friends. The mere fact that this attempt was done secretly shows signs of corruption. What insurance companies does he own stock in? Where’s all the money the city HAS been collecting? Where’s the extra police for the crime ridden areas.
Daley needs to stop hiding behind closed doors and offer FULL DISCLOSURE of what he’s doing as an elected official. He also needs to stop strong arming ward Aldermen that don’t agree with him. This type of stuff won’t stop until people stop voting for him.
3382. MATT | May 13, 2008 at 12:08 am
STUPID, THIS IS ONE REASON I VISIT CHICAGO.
3383. john preus | May 13, 2008 at 12:09 am
This is really appalling. Chicago should be ashamed of itself. Who thought of this anyway?
3384. ntw | May 13, 2008 at 12:09 am
… cracked
people come from all over the world
to experience
the music of chicago
this is a crime
do NOT pass this bill!!
3385. Minda Madziarek | May 13, 2008 at 12:09 am
I cannot believe that such a bill can be passed. I am proud to be from Chicago because of our diverse music scene, getting rid of it would be one the biggest mistakes in the history of Chicago. Do not pass this for the sake of the talented Chicago musicians and all of their fans!
3386. david vigil | May 13, 2008 at 12:09 am
Please don’t allow this to happen. I moved to chicago from another great city to be able to attend small events thrown by up and coming groups/artists.
3387. Christopher M. Walsh | May 13, 2008 at 12:09 am
I have already written to Alderman Schulter, who represents the 47th Ward. I hope this petition does the job.
3388. Sean O'Brien | May 13, 2008 at 12:10 am
fuck this bullshit!!!! I say the freedom of speech and expression is being choked out by this lame upscale pocket-pinching legislation!
3389. sunburntkamel | May 13, 2008 at 12:11 am
Hyper regulation is generally a disservice to any industry it affects. This is one step further, in affecting Chicago’s rich music and arts culture. The city is claiming to protect us from something we’re already protected from (via licensed venues), and all they’re doing is destroying the legitimate culture, while failing to do anything about any legitimate danger, by passing up existing complaints against unlicensed or dangerous venues.
3390. Felipe | May 13, 2008 at 12:12 am
every major city ESPECIALLY CHICAGO needs a music scene and most musicians start from the small venues. I oppose the ordinance because it is UN constitutional by violating the 1st amendment:
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
by diminishing Chicago’s cultural scene you are actually taking way a positive source of income.
Think about it.
thanks
3391. Brian Gephart | May 13, 2008 at 12:12 am
This is an example of government gone bad. I speak out as a jazz musician, but this applies to all forms of music. The little guy needs all the performance opportunities to get his/her career started. We need to stand up and say NO loud and clear to a law that will close the door on those opportunities. Chicago is a city that is respected for its musical heritage, above all else. The only thing more famous worldwide than the Chicago Blues is Al Capone. Maybe he could put a stop to this nonsense.
3392. Meg Lanfear | May 13, 2008 at 12:12 am
I do NOT want this legislation passed. I am a musician and this is such an offensive law if it truly is to be applied in the way I have read. If this is an attempt to fix to flaws of the nightclub tragedies, then this is the wrong way to go about it. I hope the leaders of Chicago make the right decisions.
3393. Nathan Cotter | May 13, 2008 at 12:13 am
Sign my name. Boldly. I could have sworn this was a liberal town. Ol’ Moneybags stomping on the Little Man? Really?
Point A: Clearly, Chicago is a Mecca for artists; otherwise, the two Looptopias would have been disasters not because of too many people flooding the streets and venues but because no one would show up and it wouldn’t be worth anyone’s time. Point B: If you had passed that law earlier in the previous century, you’d have no Steppenwolf, no Goodman, no Second City, no Metro, no Schuba’s, no Empty Bottle. They all started somewhere and you’re flatly killing your next good venues.
Point C: We’re poor. Promoters, actors, and musicians often already have to pay to get things going. Supporting theater and live music supports the local economy. If you’re going to screw people over, at least make it be the tourists.
Point D: Chicago actors, comedians and bands know they came out of the Chi. They come back and they bring crowds with them, or movie crews (as in the case of Mr. Vaughn). Remember? Supporting bands/concert venues/theatres SUPPORTS CHICAGO.
Point E: We are what keeps you entertained. Sure, you’ll still have your Jersey Boys and Lollapalooza. But that rich entertainment heritage that you so proudly tout to the rest of the world will die, because we’ll leave. Chicago, when it comes down to it, is just a place to live. The Bean is just a giant screwed-up mirror, the lake is just a gateway to Arctic wind, the Loop is just a business district, Navy Pier is a just a South-of-the-Border-esque tourist trap and sports events, while fun, are not the same as art. You want to turn into Milwaukee? Have at it and you can throw a big old sports parade. We’ll go someplace else. The art will always come first and promoters understand that. Concert/Playgoers understand that. And maybe soon, you’ll have to as well.
3394. Nick Graham | May 13, 2008 at 12:13 am
Really stupid law that shouldn’t be passed. $3000 for that is hella dumb. No one is gonna be able to pay that and everyone is gonna be screwed.
3395. meghan coleman | May 13, 2008 at 12:14 am
I completely object to this ordinance, here is my petition to stop it. Keep the Chicago music scene alive!
Meghan Coleman
3396. Carly Soteras | May 13, 2008 at 12:15 am
Don’t do this
3397. Evan P. | May 13, 2008 at 12:16 am
It would be a shame to destroy the many music, art, and theater subcultures that add to the richness of Chicago. Do not pass this absurd legislation.
3398. Jonathan Lackey | May 13, 2008 at 12:16 am
Absolutely ridiculous. Chicago is known for it’s music scene and everyone knows that.
3399. Dan Frank | May 13, 2008 at 12:17 am
Oh god, just stop.
3400. Robert Rada | May 13, 2008 at 12:17 am
The ordinance proposal has been drafted by people who have never worn a pair of ears; that is the only answer as to how
they managed to brew up something that is so obnoxiously incompatible with the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of music performance in Chicago.
There are children in PUBLIC Chicago schools who don’t have books.
If this ordinance comes to pass; I will discontinue spending my hard earned money within the entirety of Cook County. Bottom line.
3401. Michael Narvaez | May 13, 2008 at 12:18 am
The chairman of the committee that OK’d this proposal
Greg, which alderman is sponsoring this? Or is it coming from Daley?
Greg replies: The chairman of the committee that OK’d this proposal and sent it on to the city council is 47th Ward Ald. Gene Schulter.
Here’s his contact info:
47th Ward Office
4237 N. Lincoln Avenue
Chicago, IL 60618
773-348-8400
773-348-8480 (fax),
Email: ward47@cityofchicago.org
The chairman of the committee that OK’d this proposal and sent it on to the city council is 47th Ward Ald. Gene Schulter.
Here’s his contact info:
47th Ward Office
4237 N. Lincoln Avenue
Chicago, IL 60618
773-348-8400
773-348-8480 (fax),
Email: ward47@cityofchicago.org
Committee on License and Consumer Protection
The Committee on License and Consumer Protection has jurisdiction over the licensing of persons, property, businesses and occupations and all matters relating to consumer protection, products liability, consumer fraud and all matters relating to the Department of Consumer Services.
Chairman: Eugene C. Schulter
Vice-Chairmen: Isaac Carothers
Members: Fioretti, Lyle, Cardenas, Olivo, Cochran, Zalewski, Reboyras, Banks, Doherty, Tunney, Shiller, M. Smith
3402. Kristen Jensen | May 13, 2008 at 12:18 am
I vote ” NO “.
Put my name on the list
3403. J.P. Urbain | May 13, 2008 at 12:18 am
As a European coming since many years at least once a year to Chicago for the music, I know that this proposal would certainly affect in a dramatic and riduculous way all the places and people that are the main reason why I like your city so cuh. The city council should think about all the (great !) smaller venues, incredibly creative bands and musicians … and also about all the people like me, Europeans and from all over the world, that would not be there every year if the music in Chicago had not been what it is. Chicago is a great cultiural center, don’t change that!
3404. Tim Pierzchala | May 13, 2008 at 12:18 am
It is ridiculous that this is even an issue. I thought this was a free country. How is stifling the art subculture helping Chicago? These jock motherfuckers get to go to bars to get drunk and jack off on each other or whatever they do, and now they want to stop us from having shows? Stop the sporting events, these are as much of an endangerment, if not more. All I can say is that if this passes, it won’t change anything. At first you might see some serious consequences, but the music culture of Chicago will band together.
3405. Tiffany Hendrix | May 13, 2008 at 12:18 am
I am happy to sign.
3406. Mike Bettanin | May 13, 2008 at 12:18 am
This is obsurb! Chicago is founded on small bands playing small venues and what not…KEEP THE CHICAGO MUSIC SEEN ALIVE!!
3407. Joe Griffin | May 13, 2008 at 12:19 am
I work in both the local music scene and in local theatre…this would cripple just about every one of the dozens of artists I work with on a regular basis. Please say no to this ordinance.
3408. JC | May 13, 2008 at 12:19 am
This idea seems unthinkable, boneheaded and it must be stopped. This is Chicago not the suburbs.
3409. saul | May 13, 2008 at 12:19 am
if this it true we must stand up and fight 4 the right to rock and express our feelings to the world show that it can be a weapon against our government help out by the 14 of may all bands must join together as one and jam out.
3410. The Mid West Market | May 13, 2008 at 12:20 am
Dear Chicago,
My name is BIG RICK and I am the owner and manager of a self made marketing agency called The Mid West Market.
We specialize in the promoting and the marketing for lots of Chicago-own artists. We range from musical (rappers, singers, live, etc) to performance (actors, actresses, etc) to visual (models; Magazine Coming This Summer)
This “law” being brought upon the greatest city in the U.S. will tarnish the names of the legendary talents we have here. Restrictions of this sort can damage the reputation we; not only have as a entertainers, but as a city.
I was able to pick up from the ground and start off with a dream. I created a form for artist to express themselves, display their talents, present their skills, and entertain everyone. BUT not alone….no. With the greatest help of all, from the city of Chicago, I was fortunate to get artist in bars, in venues, on stages, and in front of OUR people.
The Places are great and that is what keeps Chicago in the ranks with the rest of the cities.
To make us comply with this “Act” will hurt or social factor & our city status, no more being the Chicago that everyone HAS loved.
I VOTE NO ON THIS!
-BIG RICK
The Mid West Market
3411. The Mid West Market | May 13, 2008 at 12:21 am
Dear Chicago,
My name is BIG RICK and I am the owner and manager of a self made marketing agency called The Mid West Market.
We specialize in the promoting and the marketing for lots of Chicago-own artists. We range from musical (rappers, singers, live, etc) to performance (actors, actresses, etc) to visual (models; Magazine Coming This Summer)
This “law” being brought upon the greatest city in the U.S. will tarnish the names of the legendary talents we have here. Restrictions of this sort can damage the reputation we; not only have as a entertainers, but as a city.
I was able to pick up from the ground and start off with a dream. I created a form for artist to express themselves, display their talents, present their skills, and entertain everyone. BUT not alone….no. With the greatest help of all, from the city of Chicago, I was fortunate to get artist in bars, in venues, on stages, and in front of OUR people.
The Places are great and that is what keeps Chicago in the ranks with the rest of the cities.
To make us comply with this “Act” will hurt or social factor & our city status, no more being the Chicago that everyone HAS loved.
I VOTE NO ON THIS!
-BIG RICK
The Mid West Market
3412. bobbi zabel | May 13, 2008 at 12:21 am
This ordinance is exactly what we DO NOT NEED in these difficult times. Already, people are dealing with trying to pay their bills, and now this would deprive them of an evening out to enjoy theater, music or dance. These small groups, who are the target of this ordinance, operate on a shoestring, and this ordinance would economically penalize them. Not only would you stifle young art groups and those on the fringe, but you would close the venues that nurture these artists. Most of these are perfectly safe, having been inspected by the city departments, and this is nothing more than an attempt to generate revenue from those who can ill afford it. We regularly patronize Davenports, the Hideout, Schubas and Katrina’s. PLease don’t shut down the music!
3413. xMiguelx | May 13, 2008 at 12:22 am
I was beyond disgusted when I read about the rule that was trying to be put into effect. Chicago thrives on tourist attractions. Those include it’s bars as well as music places such as the Metro, Smartbar, etc. To put this into effect would be to silence countless individuals who engage in artistic expression to get things out into the open, or to play for the fun of it. Chicago has the chance to get itself out of this mess by turning its back to such lunacy and dropping something so ridiculous.
3414. Jason Fliess | May 13, 2008 at 12:22 am
Horrible idea! This will destroy the livelihood of all those involved in Chicago’s vibrant theatre and music scenes. Unacceptable.
3415. Gina C | May 13, 2008 at 12:24 am
This is absolutely ridiculous.
There is no way we can let this pass.
3416. Micah Jefferson | May 13, 2008 at 12:25 am
Being a bboy in the Chicago area is hard enough. This makes it even harder for us to throw events and give us a chance to express ourselves. Why would Chicago want to discourage people peacefully organizing and bringing different minds together in the commons. I vote nay to this ordinance.
Micah
Groundhogs Crew – NIU
3417. Eric Block | May 13, 2008 at 12:25 am
What a great idea. Pass a foolish law prohibiting the arts and entertainment, the vary things that make this city thrive, while at the same time, you can likely put thousands of people out of work. Brilliant!
3418. Annie Lesser | May 13, 2008 at 12:26 am
Where do I sign?
3419. Pat K | May 13, 2008 at 12:26 am
Aldermen:
Do not pass this ordinance. The Chicago music scene is critical to our city and famous for good reason. This ordinance is ridiculous as written, please don’t alienate thevery people who put you in office.
3420. steve | May 13, 2008 at 12:27 am
As a muscian and big fan of the local music scene I would be lost if this happens. I live for playing with my band and if this law comes in it will be nearly impossible to get anywhere in the local music scene. With no shows and lack of promoters due to the cost there won’t be much left. We can’t let this happen
3421. Katie W. | May 13, 2008 at 12:27 am
The city should be supporting the arts not making it harder for people to make a living using their talents. Please don’t let this pass.
3422. Brian Sanborn | May 13, 2008 at 12:27 am
Who the H%LL came up with this idea?!?! Not only does it unsult a souls right to breath but it also shows just how inept people are. This should have never seen the light of day or even warrent needing a partition to strike it down.
3423. Genevieve Skruodys | May 13, 2008 at 12:29 am
ridiculous.
3424. John Porada | May 13, 2008 at 12:30 am
As a member of a band in the Chicago music scene, this legislation, should it go into action, would leave many local and national acts without places to play in Chicago. The people who this would affect are not wealthy, they are struggling bands and promoters who work out of their house in their free time, which is often a second full-time job. Not to mention, this would force bands to perform outside the city, which would take away money from businesses, and in turn, take money away from the city. This is bone-headed through and through. I, and the other members of Deadnight, find this unacceptable.
-John Porada, bassist
Deadnight
3425. NIck Castelli | May 13, 2008 at 12:30 am
This ordinance is absolutely absurd!!! I have lived in chicago for 28 years and is a place i will always call home. The chicago culture and nightlife is what makes me love it. One can go down almost any street in chicago and walk into any bar or club and find something different every time. If this ordinance were to pass it will take away one of the main things that makes chicago great! I really hope this is a joke but with the way our government wants to controll every body and everything it is probably true. To those who are in line to pass this ordinance don’t take away the heart of Chicago!!
3426. Jonathan Carpenter | May 13, 2008 at 12:30 am
The shows I’ve been to in Chicago have had great memories to me, and I guarantee they wouldn’t have happened if this ordinance were in place then.
Overall it sounds like a horrible idea and really wont help nearly as much as it will hurt the city.
3427. Ronald 'Ronnie' Kelpsas | May 13, 2008 at 12:31 am
Alderman Burnett do you know how this affects your ward? What about Art Galleries and their events? Small Theatre Groups,coffee houses with a poet or singer, piano bars, small promoters,etc. the list goes on?
What’s next pull the books out of the libraries? What about book signings? Is this not a part of freedom speech? You have already started taking guns away from innocent peopleand we have witnessed the most rampant shoot’em ups the City has known.
I’m definetly passing this E-mail on. Wake up City Council Members! This ordinance cannot pass as it is now written. Come back with a new proposal
something makes sense and has a resemblence of looking like it had some thought put into it.
You want the Olympics, how will the Olympic Committee like to see this City Council Proposal? Don’t let this pass voice your opinion Alderman Burrnett think of your ward.
3428. Alexa FB | May 13, 2008 at 12:32 am
How do they expect performers to get to larger places if they do not play the small rundown back room places?
You don’t get big without starting small.
3429. Maia aka Sonjia D. Harper | May 13, 2008 at 12:32 am
It grieves me that 55 or so years after Chicago musicians were faced with a similar type of ordinace that literally disabled musician’s income, that we are met with this again. Come on Mayor Daley. Chicago’s music legacy must be kept in tact and vital for the generations ahead of us. Let us not be penny wise and pound foolish. KEEP THE CHICAGO STYLE ALIVE AND FULL FOR THE WHOLE WORLD TO SEE.
3430. Ella | May 13, 2008 at 12:33 am
I am coming to go to college in Chicago from New York City, one of the reasons I decided on Chicago is the music scene. I love going to the Metro to see bands like The Academy, and such. I would completely be saddened and it would greatly ruin my college experience if this goes through. I really hope it doesn’t. I think it outrageous.
3431. Michael Bettine | May 13, 2008 at 12:33 am
Chicago is one of America’s great cultural cities. This proposed ordinance will greatly affect the lives of many artists who make Chicago what it is. Many of them will have no choice but to move away. And people like myself (I live in Milwaukee) will stop visiting and spending money in Chicago. You are only hurting yourselves with this proposed ordinance. KEEP CHICAGO VIBRANT – VOTE NO!!!!!
3432. Nellie "Tiger"Travis | May 13, 2008 at 12:34 am
This is the Blues Music Capital of the world, Its already a struggling business for a lot of people, it needs not to be made worse. There are a lot of other things in this city to be considered and this is not one of them. I totally vote NO to this bill. Please count me for ten votes if possible.
3433. Eric Faust | May 13, 2008 at 12:36 am
Passing such an act would be an oppressive blow to culture, creativity, and the arts. It is unfair, an abuse of authority, and above all ridiculous. If this ordinance is passed already struggling independent artists will suffer and only corporate big-budget acts will stay afloat, while the city reels in the money. I love this city but such an act is passed I will be ashamed to call myself a Chicagoan and I will move to greener pastures, which at that point would be anywhere but Chicago.
3434. Christopher Erin | May 13, 2008 at 12:37 am
This idea seems designed to try to diminish the efforts of tens of thousands of non-professional musicians throughout Chicago. The only purpose it will serve is to stifle creativity, which abounds in Chicago more than any city in the country.
3435. Nanette Frank | May 13, 2008 at 12:37 am
Artist for over 15 years… we need our music and other type venues to suvive!!! this should be stop!! let us band together and not let this injustice take place!
3436. Michael Heredia | May 13, 2008 at 12:37 am
This is ridiculous! I will be there wednesday morning if anyone else wants to join. Chicago has some of the most talented people in ALL genres of music, poetry and artistry. So now were gonna kill all this? But yet people selling illegal “bootleg” copies of CD’s and DVD’s are just given a warning? COME ON CHICAGO!
3437. Dayna Abel | May 13, 2008 at 12:38 am
As the daughter of a local artist and the sister-in-law of another, I am firmly opposed to this ordinance. It is completely uncalled for and will do nothing but prevent fans from seeing local bands – bands who, with enough exposure throughout the “small scene,” could grow into huge acts that would sell out arenas.
3438. Len Carlson | May 13, 2008 at 12:38 am
Hindering the arts in such a manner only proves the City is as corrupt and money-hungry as the rumors say.
Approving this ordinance sets Chicago back and immeasurable amount in culture.
I may as well live in Indiana.
3439. Joe Crawford | May 13, 2008 at 12:38 am
As defined by Carl Sandburg, Chicago is a city different than others. We embrace the common man. A city ordnance that sells out our city to big business is repulsive.
Stop the madness!
3440. Val | May 13, 2008 at 12:38 am
Music in Chicago thrives more in any other city, this ordinance will take all of that away.
3441. deannaelaine | May 13, 2008 at 12:39 am
Please please please don’t kill the culture Chicago has to offer. There is so much beauty and so much creativity in the scene around Chicago and to smother it now would be an injustice. So much of what makes Chicago a great place to live and visit would be destroyed with this ordinance. Please, for the sake of art and passion, and energy, don’t pass this legislation!
3442. Jason Swearingen | May 13, 2008 at 12:39 am
City Council: Do not pass this ordinance. The vibrant, creative music scene in Chicago is not based on the arenas, the Chicago Theaters or the Millennium Park festivals. It is based in the small venues that will be run out of business by this ordinance. It is not a matter of business asking for less governmental interference out of unwillingness to cooperate. The promoters who book the shows that go on in countless venues every night in this city CANNOT cope with this bill.
I moved to Chicago because of the music. Please do not make this city the laughing stock of every music fan throughout the world.
We could prevent ANY and ALL accidents by over-governing people’s lives, but at what cost? Doesn’t rationality have a place as well? Passing ordinances like this equates to a reactionary scorched-earth policy. If you prevent ANYthing that can happen, good or bad, then at least nothing bad happens, right? Those that give up a little liberty in exchange for safety deserve neither.
If this ordinance is passed, it will kill Chicago’s music scene, and, if the loss of a vibrant creative culture isn’t enough to prevent the passage of this ordinance, it will mostly likely drag down tourism with it.
3443. Jennifer Martinez | May 13, 2008 at 12:39 am
Do not pass this ordinance.
3444. Tom Bilas | May 13, 2008 at 12:39 am
Please do not pass this ordinance.–
As a long time concertgoer I recognize,appreciate and have been exposed to so many awesome musical experiences from every nook and cranny of the incredible city of Chicago. When I talk to new transplants to the city I always tell them to grab a Chicago Reader and go nuts. There are so many unique music venues to explore and it is a part of the beauty of the city.
Please ,we already lost Lounge AX to political/red tape nonsense.
Lets keep the music options overflowing.
I have a college radio show–i don’t want to break any bad news to music fans
Please do not pass this ordinance !
3445. Ana Marcial | May 13, 2008 at 12:39 am
Please do not pass this ordinance without further review and editing. At least consider working WITH the people the ordinance is going to affect.
I am an AVID concert attendee. I live on the southwest side of the city and take public transporation with ease to places such as The Metro, Beat Kitchen, The Vic, The Aragon, Riviera, Subterranean, House of Blues, The Congress, The Double Door, The Elbo Room, Schubas. I will be absolutely shattered if this ordinance passes and forces all my favorite venues to close. And as someone who doesn’t drive or own a car, if it forces all my favorite bands to play in the suburbs or out of state completely I don’t know what I’ll do with myself!
And not to mention all the teenagers who attend the all-ages shows at some of these venues. Where will they go? What will they do?
Do not pass this ordinance!
3446. Nick LaRocco | May 13, 2008 at 12:40 am
as a member of a local chicago band, i find this ordinance to be a complete joke. the people that run our city have failed to realize that these shows give both bands and spectators alike a place to go to, and a place to look forward to on weekends and sometimes even weekdays. it’s always fun and inexpensive, and gets our youth away from the real problems that exist on the street…the place they would be if not for these shows. taking away ART from the INNOCENT is what the COMMUNISTS did, i thought we all still lived in a democracy.
3447. Amy Buckler | May 13, 2008 at 12:41 am
I came to a University in Chicago BECAUSE of its amazing arts scene. As a theatre major – the city IS my campus. Without the ability to learn and grow with these artists –my education would be greatly lacking.
3448. roy drinkwater | May 13, 2008 at 12:41 am
If you want to kill one the most rich and dynamic aspects of Chicago; then this is a great ordinance. If you DO NOT, then stop this now.
This ordinance is destruction of culture. It takes the power of creativity out from the hands of the many, and puts it into the hands of the few.
I’m shocked that something like this could even be considered.
3449. Katherine Meister | May 13, 2008 at 12:41 am
Do not pass this ordinance. The theatrical and musical world are several of the things that makes this city so amazing. If you let this ordinance pass, you will be destroying the dreams and careers of so many talented artists. It takes a lot of courage for an artist to follow their path and it’s one that is never easy, please don’t make it even harder for us. I ask that you say no to this ordinance, so that we can continue to keep the music and spirit of this great city alive.
Katherine Meister
3450. Jonathan Prentiss | May 13, 2008 at 12:41 am
NAZIS SUCK!
3451. Dan Simonich | May 13, 2008 at 12:42 am
I strongly disagree with this proposed ordinance.
3452. William | May 13, 2008 at 12:42 am
this is something that can not happen, our scene is dead and trying to rebuild itself. it was exciting to realize there’s some interesting things going on all over the city but a law like this will put a serious hurt on chicago’s local scene.
3453. Teneka Stanley | May 13, 2008 at 12:42 am
keep the music scene alive!:)
3454. Adam Weg | May 13, 2008 at 12:42 am
Please don’t do this.
3455. Murrdog | May 13, 2008 at 12:44 am
The passing of such an ordinance would be terrible. What is proposed here should never, ever be considered.
3456. Brett Harmon | May 13, 2008 at 12:44 am
What is almost as embarrassing as this absurd piece of legislation is the spelling and grammar of half of the Chicagoans who’ve signed this petition.
No one is going to take your opinion seriously if you cannot properly spell the word “ridiculous.”
In addition, a phone call to your alderman is going to have quite a bit more impact than a comment on an online petition. 3,400 angry phone calls to city hall could go a long way.
Brett
60622
3457. Grant Kessler | May 13, 2008 at 12:44 am
Live music and musicians are already undervalued in the city — adding this will only make it worse and certainly won’t safeguard against E2 accidents. Please say no to this ordinance.
3458. kimberly knudten | May 13, 2008 at 12:44 am
Is there any reason left to remain in the U.S.? This is ridiculous and ultimately benefits no one!
3459. Dawn | May 13, 2008 at 12:45 am
This is ridiculous. This will completely kill the amazing Chicago music and cultural scene. The wonderful venues I’m just getting to know and love will be ruined, forced to shut their doors. It will take business out of the city and into the suburbs. I live in the suburbs, so it would be nice to see the bands come closer to where I am, but at the same time, I love going into the city and going to all the fabulous venues like the Metro and the Riviera. Music and culture have always been vital to the city, and by passing this law it will suck the life and vibrancy right out of Chicago. Our independent artists and musicians will have no outlet to share their creative works in their own home. That is completely wrong, and to rob the city in this way would be tragic. Please do not pass this law. Please keep the life and creativity and vibrancy in this city.
3460. Stefan Benteler | May 13, 2008 at 12:46 am
In short, this is absurd! Absolutely absurd!!!
I love this city with all my heart and want to see it continue to be one of the most artist friendly cities in the country- this ordinance will definitely pose a huge threat to that… don’t let this happen. Take action!
3461. Jo | May 13, 2008 at 12:47 am
This is ridiculous. Please don’t pass this ordinance.
3462. Jessica Maye | May 13, 2008 at 12:48 am
If this ordinance passes in its current form it will have horrible consequences for Chicago’s music community. There would be far fewer shows, shows would be more expensive, and bands would just end up playing somewhere else instead. Please keep Chicago the fantastic music vortex that it is and don’t pass this ordinance!
3463. The Mid West Market | May 13, 2008 at 12:48 am
Contact your alderman, sign the petition, and keep yourself aware of the events surrounding this.
We Have Until WEDNESDAY MAY 14thFind your AldermanPetition to save Chicago Culture
If you need something quick to cut and paste into an email to your alderman, here ya go:
Dear Chicago,
My name is BIG RICK and I am the owner and manager of a self made marketing agency called The Mid West Market.
We specialize in the promoting and the marketing for lots of Chicago-own artists. We range from musical (rappers, singers, live, etc) to performance (actors, actresses, etc) to visual (models; Magazine Coming This Summer)
This “law” being brought upon the greatest city in the U.S. will tarnish the names of the legendary talents we have here. Restrictions of this sort can damage the reputation we; not only have as a entertainers, but as a city.
I was able to pick up from the ground and start off with a dream. I created a form for artist to express themselves, display their talents, present their skills, and entertain everyone. BUT not alone….no. With the greatest help of all, from the city of Chicago, I was fortunate to get artist in bars, in venues, on stages, and in front of OUR people.
The Places are great and that is what keeps Chicago in the ranks with the rest of the cities.
To make us comply with this “Act” will hurt or social factor & our city status, no more being the Chicago that everyone HAS loved.
I VOTE NO ON THIS!
-BIG RICK
The Mid West Market
3464. Linda | May 13, 2008 at 12:49 am
This proposal is sickening and protects no one. The only reason I tolerate Chicago winters is because this is a great city for music. A city without culture is an over-developed dead zone. If the city council doesn’t respect the citizens, expect them to abandon this place in droves.
3465. Amanda Mudrovich | May 13, 2008 at 12:50 am
This is outragous. What could possibly even be the point of such an ordinance???
Chicago is so well known for supporting the arts. I really feel that passing such an ordinance would almost be like robbing the city of part of it’s identity.
3466. Timothy Fox | May 13, 2008 at 12:50 am
Hello City Council,
Do you consider yourselves to be fools? Do you really, REALLY, think that this ordinance is the path to achieving whatever it is you are trying to achieve?
Are these really the folks you want to tax? Do you really think this will satisfy your needs? Are your needs really based on some notion of public safety at cultural events? Do you think that greed, ignorance and power have nothing to do with this ordanance? Really.
DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT FOLKS WILL JUST PAY UP, AND THE EVENTS, NO MATTER HOW SMALL, WILL STILL BE PROMOTED AND YOU’LL GET ALL YOUR MONEY AND EVERYTHING WILL BE NICE AND SAFE?
Now, I understand that you don’t want any more people crushed to death at the bottom of a stairway after running from some pepper spray. Here here.
Councilfolk, this is not the way to achieve that end.
Biggest small town in America? Well, with a poorly considered vote, you can make Chicago the smallest minded big town in America.
City of neighborhoods? What does that mean If all of the music and art and culture made in, and by the people of those neighborhoods is choked out by your insanely stupid law?
You are all fools, in my humble estimation, for even considering passing this law. Please, have some self respect and vote NO.
I am opposed to this ordinance. Please add my name to the petition.
Thank you,
TF
3467. Kyle Nikitow | May 13, 2008 at 12:50 am
as someone who is in a band around the chicagoland area, and that books my own shows, i think it is completely outrageous that every promoter has to be over the age of 21… this completely throws away any possibility of bands for high schoolers or just out of high schoolers… this ordinance takes away all of the fun of being in a band and if this is passed, you will see a dramatic drop in the chicago music scene because nobody is going to want to pay to play a show. music is about having fun and doing what you love for free. and if this does happen, the city won’t get more money, they’ll lose money and gas prices will go even higher because bands are going to start migrating to wisconsin, just like when the smoking ban occurred, only worse
3468. faraways0close | May 13, 2008 at 12:52 am
I live in Peoria, IL and travel about once a month to Chicago to see shows at places like Schubas and Empty Bottle. If this ordinance passes I won’t be coming to Chicago anymore.
3469. Nate | May 13, 2008 at 12:52 am
The Chicago City Council surely has more pressing matters to deal with than giving the big producers, Live Nation and Ticketmaster more power over the arts scene and cutting out what makes Chicago unique.
Do not pass this. Worry more about the budget and less about what makes this town just a little more bright.
3470. Jennipher Chartrand | May 13, 2008 at 12:53 am
I cant believe chicago would do this to kill the underground music scene.
3471. Farsheed Hamidi-Toosi | May 13, 2008 at 12:54 am
I am a musician and highly disapprove of this.
This ordinance only serves to stifle the creative atmosphere in Chicago. It is absolutely OUTRAGEOUS that this would even be proposed…unless someone really wishes to kill live music in Chicago.
WHAT THIS WILL DO:
a) HURT small venues in favor of large venues
b) this will KILL the live music scene
c) this will HURT local economies, as small clubs and music scenes build community, increase the quality of life, and attract other profitable businesses
PLEASE DO NOT PASS THIS ORDINANCE!
Sincerely,
Farsheed Hamidi-Toosi
Registered Illinois Voter, Musician, Chicago Resident, Concert-goer
3472. mike moster | May 13, 2008 at 12:54 am
art and culture does not equal immidiate revenue, just as a seed does not yield a crop until harvest. unfortuantely, mayor daley forgot what he knew and has long sinced practiced. by this logic, we should remove the trees growing around the museum campus along with with the flower beds along michigan ave and put in various kiosks.
lord god, save our art and our chicago version of very american culture. it helped define me and my life.
we saved our sox in 93, now we must save our music in 08.
3473. Michael | May 13, 2008 at 12:54 am
As bad as it may seem for current Chicago residents, one must consider prospective residents as well. I am planning on moving to Chicago this August to attend college, and now I do so with severely less vigor. This is an outrage and a step in the wrong direction.
3474. Michael Alan | May 13, 2008 at 12:55 am
This cannot be allowed to become law. While it would prevent another E2 type debacle, it will also prevent 90% of the culture of this city from being made public and ultimately stifle a massive portion of the city’s economy. As it is, the local entertainment industry struggles to earn profit, especially the artists! Few, if any, can afford these ridiculous fees and the trouble and time it will take to get necessary permits to perform. This will not line the pockets of the city officials because no one can afford it, and it will destroy much more than it will save. Please, stop this insanity of passing so many foolish laws in order to “protect” people. How soft has this nation become that we need government to “baby” us?
3475. Chad Briggs | May 13, 2008 at 12:55 am
Please vote against this unfair and creatively stifling ordinance that threatens to take away a huge part of what makes this city a great place to live.
3476. Mark Brink | May 13, 2008 at 12:55 am
Haste makes waste.
Please don’t trash the vibrant, creative spirit of our city by rushing this through.
I implore you to vote NO on the current draft of The “Event Promoters” ordinance.
I can sense that safety is at the heart of this, but let’s not make The Arts the tragic innocent by-stander with a hasty swing of the gavel.
Mark Brink
Patron and Participant of The Arts
3477. Brian Martinez | May 13, 2008 at 12:55 am
As a full time band member who tours 9+ months a year, this “law” is not good for me or anyone in the same category as I. Living in Chicago and local suburbs all my life and attending locals shows with sometime only a few paying patrons there will be no way that a promoter can pay the bands and this ludacris insurance they would have to pay. Thus, this would be the end of any local music scene in Chicago, of any gerene. This would be a travesty to this great city and a shame that something like this was even proposed.
3478. Jennifer | May 13, 2008 at 12:56 am
This ordinance makes no sense. It shouldn’t be passed!
I’m against it as well.
3479. Marisa Noelker | May 13, 2008 at 12:56 am
Chicago’s character would never be the same. Don’t let this pass!
3480. Tyler Jacobs | May 13, 2008 at 12:56 am
I honestly can’t even believe that this was ever considered. This basically kills underground music in Chicago. It’s a damned shame that people can be so short sighted.
3481. Rebecca | May 13, 2008 at 12:57 am
I am a woman who grew up in a small town about 2 hours from the city and moved there at 17…. I spent my most critical life forming years (in my opinoin) living in Chicago. I was quickly introduced to the Chicago music scene in it’s “most hated form”. The House and Techno producers, event planners, and dj’s found my heart and soul quickly. I love ALL Music and Art. But all this is not something new for our beautiful city. We have been fighting these ordinances for years in my music scene. I think that it is admirable for the other Musicians out there to realize that this not only affects the so called “Ravers” as well as themselves (THANK YOU). It is about time that all artist are standing together to ensure everyones right to expression. As it is any un-licesened venue can not have speakers over certain watts or dj’s to back their sound without permission from the government. By law if there is a “dj” with turntables and more than (not sure on the specific number but it is around 30 people) you can be thrown in jail or fined a shitload. I am someone who has been so immersed into that scene for a number of years I know that it isn’t all about the drugs…. and trust me if people want to do drugs they will do them with or with out whatever music they prefer! So now that we have other musicians realizing this may be affecting them I hope people can learn to love all art for art and stop hating us who like electronic music. I hope that once again we can pull together as a society and community to “Fight for our right to party” so to speak. Music is one of if not the greatest form of expression…. not only the musicians but the fans are able to let themselves go, feel, live, dance, and be free for just that moment when the right beat or lyric touches a part of them. No matter what the laws are we will over come…. Chicago is one of the most artistic cities known around the world…. and we are known best for our Music and our Architecture, how dare anybody say that the two are so different. What is next are we going to outlaw creative builidings? Haha, maybe we should (has anybody seen the original UIC campus buildings!!!!!) Anyway to my dear Chicago friends that I know and don’t best of luck on Wednesday. Maybe with all this new support we can finally beat the system.
-Support MUSIC it supports you!!!!!!-
ps… i now live in my home town not far from Chicago which is home to one of the greatest live music venues I have seen… check us out sometime in Poplar Grove cause even in the sticks we know that music ROCKS
3482. Randy Styka | May 13, 2008 at 12:59 am
As a Chicagoan that thrives on the concert and theater scene, this ordinance seems completely wrong. There is no reason to pass all these restrictions and to kill the wonderful concert scene in Chicago.
3483. Cassi | May 13, 2008 at 1:00 am
Don’t stop our musics.
3484. Patrick Szachowicz | May 13, 2008 at 1:00 am
The performing arts that this city has to offer are one of its greatest attributes; what possible reason could you have for trying to destroy it? Is it not enough that Chicago has already robbed its citizens of their second amendment rights, but now you guys have to go after the first as well? Shame on you. Slowly but surely, laws like this will make Chicago lose it’s magic, and are giving people fewer and fewer reasons to come here. If you keep this up, Milwaukee will be the coolest place to be in the midwest…YUCK!! That would be a day with a sadness factor of 13 out of 10. Shoot down this silly, unconstitutional law before it’s too late. because once people catch wind of this, it’ll be an embarrassment to your whole administration that such a nonsensical bill was ever even considered.
Respectfully yours,
-Patrick Szachowicz
3485. Aniela | May 13, 2008 at 1:01 am
We can’t let this happen.
One of the reasons I love Chicago is because of its local scene.
3486. Paul Dever | May 13, 2008 at 1:01 am
Please don’t pass this ordinance. It doesn’t support the musical arts it hinders it. Giving Chicago little help in developing a musical culture.
3487. Amy Dittmeier | May 13, 2008 at 1:01 am
How are bands suppose to make a fresh start away from the major labels if they can’t even afford to book one gig? Who thought this was a good idea?
3488. Becca | May 13, 2008 at 1:02 am
this CANNOT happen.
have these people actually looked at the rich musical and theatrical history chicago has? the amazing musicians that have come from this wonderful city. none of that will be possible if this passes.
PLEASE don’t let this slip by.
3489. John Fitzgerald | May 13, 2008 at 1:03 am
As a small business owner who depends on activity at small venues I respectfully request that you vote against the proposed ordinance. The lifeblood of Chicago is already on the verge of being taxed out of existence due to property taxes, increasing sales tax, increasing tax on alcohol and cigarettes, parking enforcement designed to maximize revenue and a myriad of other ways in which the residents of Chicago are nickeled and dimed into submission. These fees will be passed along to residents or force club owners to shut their doors completely. The ordinance also will place additional administrative burdens on already strained City resources – all of that form processing, record keeping and enforcement will require tremendous effort… unless of course the plan is to just take in the fees and not actually enforce anything.
John Fitzgerald, Founder
Local Band Network – Information about local bands no matter where “local” is to you…
fitz@localband.net | http://www.localbandnetwork.com | http://www.localband.net
3490. Joshua Rose | May 13, 2008 at 1:03 am
Why am I not surprised that Gene Schulter is spearheading this?
3491. Othy Schwering | May 13, 2008 at 1:03 am
The rich get richer, and the former Improv and Sketch Mecca becomes a comedic ghost town. As good ol’ B McG would say, “Not in my America!”
3492. michael wert | May 13, 2008 at 1:04 am
i vote against this law!
3493. Andrew Evans | May 13, 2008 at 1:04 am
What a foolish, foolish move.
3494. bd | May 13, 2008 at 1:05 am
why punish well-managed music venues because of the mistake one nightclub, E2, made that took the lives of 23 people and started a huge controversy? I understand they want to make people safe and not have a catastrophe like the one at E2 repeated, but this is ridiculous. There has to be another way to compromise without potentially destroying Chicago’s vibrant underground.
3495. Michelle Naese | May 13, 2008 at 1:06 am
This just makes no sense to me.
The whole underground music scene depends on promoters.
And every promoter having to be over the age of 21?
I think that’s just outrageous.
I’m 15. I promote many of my favorite local bands here.
I go to a lot of shows at places like the Metro, Beat Kitchen, Subterranean, and a lot of smaller venues.
This ordinance is ridiculous.
I can’t believe it would even be considered.
3496. Hannah | May 13, 2008 at 1:06 am
I am definitely against this. Please do not pass this ordinance.
3497. Gary | May 13, 2008 at 1:06 am
Please do not take this from our city. As a musician and a performer, this would make it borderline impossible for the musicians in our scene to promote our music and more importantly do what we love. and for what? what is the point of this anyway?
3498. Dan Solomon | May 13, 2008 at 1:07 am
In the years since the E2 disaster, small clubs have dealt with the higher levels of scrutiny from local law enforcement finally enforcing those laws that had been overlooked and broken. I believe that Chicago’s entertainment institutions have passed with flying colors and should not, now, be put to the death penalty. Try to imagine what this city will become, what the neighborhoods and culture of our great city will be like, when the music stops. Good luck becoming an Olympic city if you can’t support the very foundation that the Olympic movement was built upon, pride in one’s history and culture. I disapprove of this ordinance and so should you.
3499. Scott Beach | May 13, 2008 at 1:09 am
“A beautiful thing never gives so much pain as does failing to hear and see it.” – Michelangelo.
As a lifelong resident I applaud the City’s efforts over the past two decades to carry Chicago through the erosion of its manufacturing base by converting our economy to meet the challenges of the 21st century. Hand-in-hand with that economic development has been the promotion of so-called “high” arts, architecture and culture. While the development and advancement of theatre district, the skyscraper, and the Harris Theatre help maintain our city’s reputation and prestige, they are not accessible to many of our fellow citizens – whether they be patrons or artists.
Chicago has been and should remain a city for the starving artist; the creative mind; the intellectual misfit. As Chicago continues to develop I have noticed a deplorable stifling of the creative arts and individualism through taxes, fees, fines, and surcharges. Gone are the street vendors and musicians – the very character and soul of any great city. Without directly prohibiting speech the City has effectively limited opportunities for those with unlimited ideas to present them en masse. Without venues like Metro, The Riv, Schubas, The Abbey (and countless others), local artists will be required to leave Chicago and unknown or smaller artists will avoid playing Chicago. With our artistic base eroded and local culture available only to those with large wallets, we will all be robbed of the opportunity to think and be inspired. Make no mistake – placing this level of financial burden on these venues and those who perform there will, effectively, either drive them out of business or force them to cater to an exclusively wealthier crowd.
Respectfully, do not pass this Ordinance. A great City cannot thrive by acting petty.
3500. Matt Kaye | May 13, 2008 at 1:10 am
Why would a city hamstring it’s artistic community like this?
It’s red tape censorship of the more marginal creative
voices in Chicago. Call it out for what it is, further
gentrification and neutering of a city. They should be
ashamed.
3501. Jacob Hoersten | May 13, 2008 at 1:10 am
I’m not even from the United States and I am very annoyed by this. It’s an absolute joke.
3502. Karina Gonzalez | May 13, 2008 at 1:10 am
I am a student at the University of Chicago, and I am originally from Los Angeles. A sizable reason I chose this school, besides it’s prestigious reputation and academic rigor, was the city of Chicago itself; I find it fascinating, beautiful, so unbelievably rich. I hoped to stay here and find an amazing job after college, but I would not stay if this ordinance passed. It is absurd and useless. It lessens the richness of Chicago, the multilayered vibrancy of this city. It would not only be a shame, it would be seriously detrimental to the city in general, because I know that the city’s reputation as a music town is an important factor to many college-aged persons thinking of living here. Pass this ordinance and you basically remove some of Chicago from Chicago, and then some of allure will be gone.
3503. Renee Mostyn | May 13, 2008 at 1:11 am
This ordinance is absolutely ridiculous. Music is so popular in Chicago creating artists everyday. These venues are great and low key for locals to enjoy. Some have been around so long it would be taking away a piece of the city.
3504. Oren | May 13, 2008 at 1:11 am
More bad politics…
What happened to being human?
3505. Paul Lange | May 13, 2008 at 1:12 am
I think our greedy gov. is trying hard again to make as much money as possible of people trying to have a good time. This law will only detour people trying to produce a cool party that will entertain the masses from having a good time, and make prices higher and not worth paying out.
3506. shawn mcelhinney | May 13, 2008 at 1:12 am
As a long-time patron and performer in the local music scene, I can say with all sincerity that this ordinance would destroy the lives of many people. Livelihood and money issue aside, this will deprive people of a positive output to express their creativity. Please, stop this ordinance before it is too late.
3507. David Sherman | May 13, 2008 at 1:12 am
One of my favorite things about Chicago is the variety of truly talented performers you can see and hear at the city’s smaller venues. I am a musician who actually makes a living playing music in Chicago. This ordinance will limit my ability to do that. This ordinance will hurt the independent artist who brings so much to our town.
3508. Alex | May 13, 2008 at 1:14 am
How can we let this happen? Art is a way to express ourselves, music is part of our daily lives. Why is it acceptable to hinder that. We live in a free democratic society, and should be able to express ourselves accordingly. As an actor, as well as an American, I feel that I should be able to say and express how I feel through words, music, and any other creative facet I see fit.
3509. Kimberly Martin | May 13, 2008 at 1:15 am
It truly saddens me that it has to come down to something as drastic as this.
3510. Kassandra Kluga | May 13, 2008 at 1:17 am
its already bad enought that we have to have license agents to book anything in chicago, making us become licensed to promote something would completely ruin any kind of promoting for any show of any time, meaning less people are going to go, meaning less money coming in. and we all know, the city doesn’t want less money coming in, so dont do it.
3511. Blake Harmon | May 13, 2008 at 1:17 am
This is outrageous. Do not pass this ordinance, as it would ruin Chicago.
3512. Dawn Fritz | May 13, 2008 at 1:19 am
This is clearly a regressive action that will depress the current Chicago metro cultural community and severely stunt its future growth. PLEASE VOTE NO!!
3513. Janice Koch artist: tsitra444 | May 13, 2008 at 1:21 am
Wow! A lot of concern is being posted on this site, as well as many others- word is spreading nationally about the absurdity of this ordinance and it is not good for Chicago’s reputation…
PLEASE DO NOT PASS THE “EVENT PROMOTERS” ORDINANCE! I have read through many comment posts and there are some very great points: people, artists, musicians, lovers of art and music, parents of artists, promoters and companies who are appalled by the ordinance.
There is a very apparent outcome to such an act, lack of freedom of speech, practice, and also THE LOSS OF THE SOUL OF CHICAGO ARTS AND MUSIC. The soul of Chicago is deep- not just the big broadway money makers and arena shows. I was there with the “rave act” and how it put a wound in the soul of Chicago arts and music. Don’t kill the soul with an even more devastating wound that would effect A TON OF CHICAGOANS AND VISITORS WHO TRAVEL TO THIS CITY FOR THE INDEPENDENT ARTS, MUSIC, FESTIVALS, SHOWS. I go to independent, small venue events all the time and never has there been a problem.
My worries:
- art and music not accessible for all people, all ages, all social economic levels
- living in a city with the highest tax rate is bad enough.
- funding for arts in schools is not so great either…
- city gas prices are bad too.
- are the aldermen and people on the board even listening to the people of Chicago? Their wants, needs, pocketbooks?
- I am worried that I’m living in a city that has a history of corruption, such an odd, detrimental ordinance makes me shake my head even more. Say the bill is passed (God forbid), where will the money go??
The reason why I moved to this city and visited often years ago was for independent events, and the unique parts/places in the city. I am proud be a part of a city that offers such unique events to visitors, but such ordinances make me wonder if there are better cities out there that support artistic diversity and are more affordable for the artistic set.
All of Chicago will be hurt by this ordinance. It is a step backwards for a city that is priding itself on being modern, hip, and diverse. Don’t make Chicago a “cookie cutter city”.
STEP OUTSIDE THE BOX =) !
PLEASE KEEP ARTS AND MUSIC AFFORDABLE AND ACCESSIBLE TO ALL PEOPLES!
Thank you.
stifling creative possibilities in the veil of “Public Safety” is reminscent of past fascism.
3514. Primrose Nimnark | May 13, 2008 at 1:22 am
Oh the stupidity of the government sometimes.
How does this benefit Chicago?
Its eliminating more and more of the original Chicago (or barely what’s left of it).
Local businesses becoming controlled by worldwide mass-production companies.
The economic crisis.
Now trying to take away our music?
Just keep on taking our freedoms.
For shame.
3515. Rafa Garcia | May 13, 2008 at 1:23 am
I appreciate Chicago’s music scene and cannot imagine a scenario in which this drastic and outrageous ordinance would serve it.
3516. Abigail F. | May 13, 2008 at 1:24 am
Keep the local entertainment scene alive. Democracy is about all voices being represented, not just the ones that can draw 500+ people.
3517. Justin Nolan | May 13, 2008 at 1:24 am
This ordinance will disadvantage all local musicians and promoters who barely make anything as it is. We are the culture of the city and if you imped our growth you will hurt the people that represent Chicago to the world. Please don’t pass the promoters ordinance!
3518. Noah Simon | May 13, 2008 at 1:25 am
This is a ridiculous law that benefits no one. And if you are going pass it, be sure to include venues such as The Oriental and The Cadillac Palace. Just to keep it fair. Seriously, gangs are killing the children of our city, we have more potholes than tax payers, and all you politicians can think to do is hassle a bunch of artists. Shame on you.
3519. Nathan Robbel | May 13, 2008 at 1:25 am
This ordinance would destroy theatre in Chicago. While many are unaware of it, Chicago is considered by many to be the theatre capital of the world. This would change overnight. It is the reason I am here, and I would leave immediately. It’s hard for me to fathom something like this happening, but if it were to happen, I would pack my bags, and most of my contemporaries would as well. We just couldn’t afford to do what we’re here to do anymore. It’s beyond belief that something like this would even be considered.
3520. Rio Cano | May 13, 2008 at 1:28 am
woah, ridiculous to the max.
3521. Ian Shipman | May 13, 2008 at 1:30 am
I am against the ordinance. This is my signature. Let’s find a way to deal with the exploitation of musicians and entertainment-seekers without eroding our wonderful scene.
3522. Rahul Barua | May 13, 2008 at 1:31 am
As a community-oriented recent transplant to Chicago, I am strongly oppose this ordinance proposal.
Significantly limiting the expression of independent artists is clearly an ill-thought method of securing public events. As a concerned resident I strongly suggest the City Council engage the Chicago Music Council and local business leaders in developing more targeted and effective policy measures. That such a blanketed and non-contextual ordinance is to be proposed is egregious and surprisingly absurd.
Such an attack on the appreciation of local art and market of independent business owners seems to contradict the very vein of Chicago heritage and notions of city-pride. As a locally conscious consumer in all aspects, I would be tempted to return to Portland, OR – where local businesses are nurtured and protected – if this will be the new found tenor of Chicago’s City Council.
Rahul Barua
3523. Andrew Mooney | May 13, 2008 at 1:31 am
Wow… Madness
3524. Ryne | May 13, 2008 at 1:31 am
This ordinance pretty much kills the local music scene. It makes local groups lives much harder. Its ridiculous.
3525. Faiz Razi | May 13, 2008 at 1:33 am
seriously, don’t do this.
thank you.
3526. Samantha Branca Cook | May 13, 2008 at 1:33 am
This is absolutely unacceptable. Such an ordinance would be a severe hindrance to the Chicago arts scene and I cannot imagine any benefits that would outweigh that fact.
3527. Kamil | May 13, 2008 at 1:34 am
Insane NO !!!
We have to save Chicago Culture.
3528. Daniel Albert | May 13, 2008 at 1:35 am
Without the Chicago music scene, there’s really no reason for me to travel into the city from the suburbs anymore. If this ordinance is enacted, I might as well just accept that job offer in California.
3529. Matt Swieboda | May 13, 2008 at 1:35 am
This is totally not cool. Chicago’s music scene is amazing and this will drastically make it harder for the independents out there who make the scene what it is and make it the freaking best! Please stop this insanely dumb idea and keep Chicago music the way it is and always should be!
3530. Kannan Arumugam | May 13, 2008 at 1:37 am
Is passing this ordinance *really* the best solution? It seems we’d be swinging the pendulum much too far in the other direction; the thriving artistic community that Chicago boasts would be crippled.
Please do not let this ordinance pass — it would profoundly undermine much of what makes Chicago vibrant.
3531. christina neubauer | May 13, 2008 at 1:39 am
What’s the point of all of this? This will actually cut Chicago’s profits. Kids and adults alike come to Chicago for shows and the SPEND THEIR MONEY HERE.
Come on, Chicago. What’s the problem? You like money, don’t you?
Add my name to this list. This is ridiculous. We should be worrying about other things, like bike safety. How many people have to die for this city stops worrying about small shows?
3532. Erinn | May 13, 2008 at 1:40 am
Why on earth would anyone choose to dim down the music scene anywhere? Why take a positive form of expression away from people? I say no, don’t do it. Let us have what we so rightly deserve.
3533. Emily Evans | May 13, 2008 at 1:40 am
As a former manager of a Chicago band, I know first-hand how accomodating this city can be for new music. You call a venue up, they give you a slot, you meet their promoter, and you do business with them again. Everyone is happy – the band gets to play music, the promoter sells tickets and beer, and the city is vibrant.
If this ordinance passes, I would have had to purchase an expensive license just to book my band. Most local bands and small venues, which is who the ordiance is tageting, don’t have the cash for these heavy fees. Therefore, they would be forced to back out. I certainly wouldn’t have been able to get anywhere as an Indiviual Promoter.
Dear Chicago: Why would you think this is a good idea? Who is making money off of this? Did Clear Channel start this? Please vote no on this ordinance.
3534. ale | May 13, 2008 at 1:41 am
We all love Chicago
we all love music
Why and what is this ordinance?
Please do not pass this!!!!
3535. Paul Bonneville | May 13, 2008 at 1:41 am
Cool, now we can be as un-cultural as Indianapolis and Milwaukee. This is ridiculous… again people who think they know what’s best for everyone making decisions even though they are so out of touch with life that their family talks behind their backs.
3536. Damon Locks | May 13, 2008 at 1:43 am
This is a terrible thing for the city of Chicago. The music scene has always provided the city with its pulse. From the days of Record Row to Empty Bottle and Schubas, music has always flourished and contributed to Chicago’s rich cultural history. This ordinance would kill the possibilities and outlets for so many creative artist as well the livelihoods of those that support those with stages.
3537. Alan Whitney | May 13, 2008 at 1:45 am
Please do not pass this ordinance. My family and neighbors are vehemently opposed.
3538. Joseph Sitter | May 13, 2008 at 1:47 am
C’mon, seriously?!
How much more life can these government and corporate vampires suck from us?!
Government is supposed to serve the people, not police them.
I’m sure they can find another sleazy way to make more money without destroying chicago culture.
3539. Shalaka Kulkarni | May 13, 2008 at 1:47 am
This is completely ridiculous! I hate politics. As a performer, I am just sick because this ordinance shows that the Chicago city council is either dumb or pretending to be. Are they forgetting the recent event called ‘Looptopia’ where so many people showed up because there was so much variety of artists and culture. What happens when all of these artists move to cities with better and smarter attitude towards arts and artists in general? That is what will happen. Chicago will be the first city to actively and systematically destroy its own culture if this law is passed. Please don’t do this. Have some pride in your city with its art and culture. Just listen to your people rather than your fellow politicians.
3540. Tim Bertucci | May 13, 2008 at 1:48 am
This ordinance would completely suffocate the wonderful music scene Chicago has developed over a great deal of time. How one could think these ridiculous policies and fees would do anything but hurt the city’s economy is beyond me.
3541. Omar | May 13, 2008 at 1:48 am
What’s next, book burning?More and more like a fascist state everyday.
3542. Nate Coon | May 13, 2008 at 1:49 am
This is absolutely ridiculous. As someone who takes great pride in this city and its culture, I’d hate to see this ordinance pass.
3543. Jason S | May 13, 2008 at 1:49 am
My band recently moved to Chicago for the sole reason of playing music and trying to get recognized. If this ordinance passes, it will be nearly impossible for us to play lots of smaller shows in order to get recognized. We really love Chicago. Please realize how much this will hurt the music scene and everyone involved in it. Is it really neccessary?
3544. Viktoria Richter | May 13, 2008 at 1:51 am
This is rubbish! It would affect the large music scene of Chicago greatly!
Think of how many successful bands wouldn’t be here if it weren’t for some of those venues?!
If they continue with this, then they’re crazy
3545. Michelle Roman | May 13, 2008 at 1:51 am
so we can’t afford to drive or fly anywhere because of gas, we can barely afford to buy groceries and we are working more than ever for less and sending people overseas to fight for nothing … now lets take away the music and fun times, what’s next prohibition?
Should I just book the moving truck to canada now?
hey politicos if you take away our music we’ll come riot in your suburbs…. Won’t that be fun;)
3546. Dan | May 13, 2008 at 1:53 am
Ya I saw Wicked, and I would have much preferred barprov to that monstrosity.
3547. Brettly K | May 13, 2008 at 1:53 am
I bekon the City of Chicago to consider the thousands of lives just in this city that you would be effecting, not to mention the damage that this would do to a thriving, and incredible music scene here in Chicago.
Please do no pass this ordinance, please let us musicians work, and earn a living doing what we love and have chosen for ourselves
3548. Alec Zopf | May 13, 2008 at 1:54 am
I am a gigging Chicago musician, and the prospect of regulations that make things harder for the smaller venues is simply unacceptable. Save Chicago Culture!
3549. David Seeber | May 13, 2008 at 1:58 am
THIS IS BOGUS!
ART FOR EVERYONE! Why does the city feel the need to stiffle creativity and expression?
This ordinance is going in the completely opposite direction than it needs to be. The city should encourage art. It brings in PEOPLE. A neighborhood becomes more desirable when it is inhabited by artists.
STOP THIS ORDINANCE!!! PLEASE!!!
3550. jacob hamm | May 13, 2008 at 2:00 am
the ordinance as written is too “all encompassing.” no one can comply. if this passes, chicago’s music scene, as we know it, will die. we have the largest independent scene in the country. this city thrives on the young artists of our beloved community. regardless of what good intentions may have been, this law can not, should not stand.
3551. sla88 | May 13, 2008 at 2:00 am
how can this be legal, it seems like it violates rights on so many levels, i dont understand how they can make it illegal to throw a entertainment event if you are under 21?
3552. Michael Vandewerken | May 13, 2008 at 2:01 am
Another example of the questionable government of Chicago.
3553. marc robertson | May 13, 2008 at 2:02 am
fight the man fight the power right on brother dont let the man get you down
3554. Alyssa Reyes | May 13, 2008 at 2:03 am
I was at a loss of words when I first heard of this. It sickens me to the core to think that the one thing that makes me love this city could be gone. I work at a job I can’t stand so I can afford to go to shows at places like the Metro and the Beat Kitchen. These places are like second homes to me and make me feel safer than I feel in my own neighborhood. I haven’t been able to see a number of my favorite bands in a long time just becuase of the cost of fuel and touring itself. Now the city wants them to pay even more money that they don’t have? Stupid idea. Plain and simple. As so many others have said before me, this city brags about the art and music that lives here but if this ordinance is passed there won’t be any art or music to brag about. DO NOT THIS ORDINANCE BE PASSED!!
3555. Anthony Valle | May 13, 2008 at 2:05 am
This Chicago music scene is all I have going for me as a hobby and a way to release my inner self. Being in a band, and expressing my love of music to everyone is my passion, and as well the passion of countless thousands of others. If you pass this ordinance, might as well put me in a cage with Robert Losier and Ben Stein.
If you pass this ordinance, why not next suppress all human emotion?
-Anthony
GladHeAteHer Guitar
3556. Alex Simotes | May 13, 2008 at 2:05 am
This of course doesn’t affect the bands that actually bring the city a ton of money through bloated “reuinion tour” pricing, it hurts small bands and promoters. I wish I knew about this sooner. This cannot pass into law.
Alex
Shotgun Clash
3557. Wayne Allen Jones | May 13, 2008 at 2:05 am
This is a copy of the letter I sent to Manny Flores, Alderman of the 1st Ward:
Manuel Flores, Alderman, First Ward, Chicago City Council
Manny,
I don’t have access to the language, provisions, or the rationale for Ordinance 4-157, but if it in any way resembles what I have heard about it, I hope I can count on you to squash it as destructive to the interests of the arts in Chicago and therefore to the cultural vitality of the city.
Artistic activity is a pyramid phenomenon. There is a large base of many, many small activities and events at a large number of small venues. There are middle layers of increasingly larger but fewer events at larger venues at which one expects higher levels of skill, achievement, and entertainment. At the top are very few elite establishments that blend the best of Chicago culture with the pinnacle of achievements from around the world brought to Chicago to round out the city’s cultural offerings. I should not have to point out the economic aspect of Chicago as a destination for a diversity of arts and culture, a topic you and I have talked about regarding the issues of gentrification in Wicker Park and the rest of the First Ward.
I imagine that there are also issues involving constitutional rights of free speech and assembly, which, while important to differentiate the USA from repressive regimes and dictatorships, will also entail legal costs defending (futilely) such a short-sighted initiative, costs that would likely dwarf the revenue potential. And by the way, that revenue potential is likely to be much smaller than projected because the base of the pyramid will either disappear or go underground. Officials will get mired in endless discussions about what constitutes an “event,” and any pretension of support for the arts from the City of Chicago will evaporate in the vacuum caused by the exodus of artists from Illinois to Minnesota and elsewhere, to places that value the vitality of a fully-constituted pyramid of artistic endeavor that makes cities good cities and makes them worth living in.
Please act in a manner consistent with your appreciation of the contribution the arts makes to the vitality of the various communities of Chicago and squash this embarrassing piece of legislation.
Please contact me if you have any questions on this or any other matter,
Wayne Allen Jones
Publisher
Fractal Edge Press
1112 N Ashland Ave #1R
Chicago, 60622
3558. peter polzak | May 13, 2008 at 2:07 am
Please add my voice in opposition to this unseemly ordinance.
3559. Charles Mahaffee | May 13, 2008 at 2:11 am
refuse.
3560. Andrew Gockenbach | May 13, 2008 at 2:12 am
Alright, I was born in Chicago and I no longer live there but this is an outrage! What purpose does this law serve other than to limit the creative expression of Chicago? I don’ think that art should be taxed and regulated, thats clearly what’s going on here. Chicago would just add another blemish to its already weathered political history. VOTE NO!
3561. Michael Fann | May 13, 2008 at 2:16 am
Stopping art appreciating people from seeing musical acts in Chicago should be a crime. The many venues around the city that provide a wide range and diverse choice of music for people should not be restricted in such a way that would deter, and in some cases prevent many acts from performing. Music is a huge reason why Chicago is such a great city and not allowing it to be freely expressed is simply wrong.
Michael F
3562. Pat Mallinger | May 13, 2008 at 2:18 am
This ordinance would certainly be devistating to both the artist and the audience. Please reconsider and keep the unique music and culture alive in this city, because it’s about all we got anymore!
3563. William Villacres | May 13, 2008 at 2:18 am
For a city that has helped shape American culture in everything from the blues to improv to pass such an ordinance would be beyond ridiculous. after hosting events such as looptopia, manifest, and other cultural celebrations, passing this ordinance would be hypocritical and short sighted. a “yes” vote would set the ground work for the reversal of the decades of work this city has put into art forms of all kinds.
3564. Liam | May 13, 2008 at 2:24 am
Lame.
3565. JW | May 13, 2008 at 2:28 am
This ordinance over-reaches in a carelessly obtuse attempt to address a legitimate issue. The city of Chicago deserves better.
3566. Gene J | May 13, 2008 at 2:28 am
I agree completely with the guy who stated that the police should have no business worrying a week ahead about a lawful assembly of any kind, entertainment, political, or otherwise.
For this reason we should all join the American Civil Liberties Union (www.aclu.org) and get them to take legal action against the city if this ordinance passes on Wednesday.
3567. Cindy Cornelsen | May 13, 2008 at 2:32 am
What kind of money are these “promoters” making that I don’t know about? Most of the comics I know perform for free in the city and never over $100 for a non-fixed seat venue.
Is the city so broke it’s running out of parking tickets? What’s the deal?!
3568. Kurt Schuepfer | May 13, 2008 at 2:33 am
I love Chicago’s music culture too much to not express my opinion on this. This is a terrible idea for the city because it is at the artist’s expense.
3569. Cheryl Lawson | May 13, 2008 at 2:34 am
I see no point in staying in this city any longer if such an ordinance is passed. As a person who came to this city for its music and to major in music at one of the city’s larger universities, the value that Chicago has for me will then become obsolete. The people who have thrived in this city performing in the exact types of places that will be affected by this ordinance will have little or no reason to stay here with so many other cities available to thrive in. This includes practically all of my music professors from college. Not only would this ruin my desire to even return to Chicago, but it will also deter performers (or anyone who likes to be entertained) just wanting to visit the city from even considering it as an option. Chicago would become a pointless city for very many.
3570. Luke Lasky | May 13, 2008 at 2:34 am
Stop killing our city
-concerned resident
3571. Joey Kappel | May 13, 2008 at 2:34 am
This would be terrible for Chicago’s economy and would leave a permanent stain on Chicago’s musical reputation.
Do NOT pass this ordinance.
3572. Anna | May 13, 2008 at 2:35 am
What is the point of this? Please vote no.
3573. jason moss | May 13, 2008 at 2:37 am
why change whats working now….
dont you want to hear bands like ANIKUS…..
guess thats not going to happen, the little guys can’t afford this stuff , what are u thinking…theres noway to control art its like taking drinking away from bars it just wont work…..
3574. brendan finucane | May 13, 2008 at 2:38 am
I have been a Chicago resident now for a grand total of 12 days. In this short time I have been impressed over and over by the cultural diversity of this city.
I hope that local Chicago government will continue to do what it can to protect the city’s rich heritage of cultural and community diversity.
Cultures and communities define and sustain themselves in part through music and the arts. The city of Chicago should therefore be a national leader in the promotion of local music. Passing the promoter’s ordinance would be a giant leap- in the wrong direction.
Support cultural diversity and freedom of expression- don’t smother them.
Brendan Finucane
musician, teacher, concert-goer, Chicago resident.
3575. Ezequiel Alvarez | May 13, 2008 at 2:40 am
This ordinance is destructive, period. How can a city that prides itself on it’s culture be so willing to put an end to all those that are keeping it alive? Limiting our freedom to express ourselves artistically will only lead to higher crime and an already dwindling economy. This will drive people away.
3576. Dan | May 13, 2008 at 2:40 am
I would be very sad to see the Chicago music scene affected like this. Please consider voting against this ordinance.
3577. Joshua K. Kruse | May 13, 2008 at 2:41 am
This is an absolutely bad idea, as a live sound engineer working with many independent bands and live acts this would completely kill off my business that I’ve put everything into. The bands would stop getting shows and I would stop getting sound rentals.
What can we do to stop this before it is too late, Chicago is a great city to go anywhere to hear live music, and great acts from across the world generating tons of revenue for the city and the people involved.
What a shame!!
3578. Lauren Bost | May 13, 2008 at 2:42 am
There are smarter ways to keep events safe, and more appropriate sources of city funding. Event promotion is neither the problem nor the solution.
3579. Michele Liko | May 13, 2008 at 2:43 am
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3580. Jerry Roof | May 13, 2008 at 2:43 am
Im not a resident of chicago, rather of springfield, BUT i have been to shows in chicago put on by small promoters. To see this bill pass would be a crippling blow to underground music and culture in general in chicago. please vote no on this ordinance!
3581. Kyu Yup Kim | May 13, 2008 at 2:44 am
This law would be the final nail in the coffin that would bury independent arts culture in this city. It seems that it would not necessarily benefit the establishment to kill the arts in this city as it is often, ironically, the way that the road to gentrification starts to get paved. In a sense, not only would this ordinance kill arts in the city, it would turn the city into a virtual retirement community where no self respecting person (basically anyone under 100) would want to live. Not only would this ordinance kil the arts, it would severely reduce real estate value as demand for land falls.
Also, to me, the most important right bestowed by the Constitution is the right to assemble. This ordinance seems like a “divide and conquer” tactic and that is quite frankly UN-AMERICAN. At the very least, it is an unscrupulous attempt by unscrupulous people to squeeze every nickel and dime they could out of vulnerable groups of people…
3582. Dana | May 13, 2008 at 2:45 am
No, no, no.
Thanks.
3583. Kirby O'Connell | May 13, 2008 at 2:46 am
Me no likey.
3584. jackie | May 13, 2008 at 2:46 am
this is crazy! more then half the time i go to chicago, its to go to a concert or event. if this passes, chicago wont be the same. i mean, COME ON!!! chicago is known for its different styles of music and its artistic scenes all over the world. its hard enough for lesser known bands to make it in the industry, so why make it harder? tons of well known artists have started small in chicago and have made it so far. lets not ruin it for other aspiring people and folks who love to see them shine.
3585. dot | May 13, 2008 at 2:49 am
This would mean total cultural death for the city of chicago for many of it’s residents and visitors. Small venues are the lifeblood of any cities musical culture, and the fees outlined would be the equivalent of a HOLOCAUST to that culture. Stop action on this absurd statuate immediately and I suggest NEVER again listening to whatever clueless hostile person or persons suggested such a thing. Actually I suggest tar-and-feathering for this person or persons, but maybe that can wait for later.
3586. DeRon | May 13, 2008 at 2:50 am
This is ridiculous! The theater, music, and comedy scene are what makes Chicago great.
3587. Adam Long | May 13, 2008 at 2:50 am
the world without live music would be a bad world with more violence. music puts people at easy and would be a crime without live shows and to charge promoters a fee is wrong local music in some cases is actually better then the music that is done by professional musicians that get played on the radio so i think that people need to unite for all local music all around and not allow this type of shit to happen
3588. Sean More | May 13, 2008 at 2:52 am
I love Patrick Stump
3589. Eoin | May 13, 2008 at 2:53 am
Hopefully there will be more public awareness generated because of petitions like this.
3590. Dana Fleetham | May 13, 2008 at 2:57 am
As someone who cut their teeth on the Chicago punk, metal, and industrial scenes, I am appalled that this would ever be even suggested.
Everyone needs a safe haven to grow and learn and change, and taking the small venue scene away from Chicago is stealing that opportunity from an entire generation.
I remember Kool-Aide, I remember The Thirsty Whale, the Metro, Punk Picnic….and more. Taking this away will seriously alter the landscape of the Chicago music scene, and will thwart opportunity significantly.
3591. Christopher Robin | May 13, 2008 at 2:57 am
Local, live theatre and music is what makes this city so great! Let’s not shoot ourselves in the foot by passing this ridiculous legislation!!!
3592. Andrew C | May 13, 2008 at 2:57 am
As a regular visitor to Chicago from the UK I find this action unbelievable and would surely cramp the development and progression of one of the most vibrant cultural scenes in the world. My trips would not be complete without a visit to a live music event.
3593. daniel grimm | May 13, 2008 at 2:59 am
i came to this city specifically for the performace and unique cultural opportunities. You are killing the golden goose. When is this city going to stop the fanatical overtaxing, and killing small business and those artists that dont make any money anyhow?
isn’t the parking and ticketing making this city enough money anyhow?
3594. Bill Hillmann | May 13, 2008 at 3:06 am
This is just another way for our city government to destory the culture in this city. It can’t happen, why do we have to micro manage culture, let it be, people arn’t out there partying out of control this is real culture they’re trying to destory, it can’t be allowed.
3595. william | May 13, 2008 at 3:08 am
this is outrageous it should not be passed and will not be passed the music scene in chicago is the best scene hands down if they were to pass this I don’t know what i’d do who knows maybe i’ll possibly leave chicago to cut chicago off from music and its backgrounds it’s history is just wrong i hope the council can see it in their hearts to vote against it- please-.
3596. Dr Jay | May 13, 2008 at 3:12 am
What is it…money…money…money that drives the insanity like this scam? If this happens these people need to be evicted immediately from the office of impersonation of leaders caring for the community.
Please do not pass this draconian type ordinance or what ever money making label you want to put on it. Instead, give the inspiration for more music to be openly and freely played. During the coming depression, they will need to get heir minds off the poverty these kinds of Orwellian symptoms have brought upon us.
DO NOT PASS THIS CA-CA!
Dr Jay
3597. Dr Jay | May 13, 2008 at 3:14 am
What is it…money…money…money that drives the insanity like this scam? If this happens these people need to be evicted immediately from the office of impersonation of leaders caring for the community.
Please do not pass this draconian type ordinance or what ever money making label you want to put on it. Instead, give the inspiration for more music to be openly and freely played. During the coming depression, they will need to get heir minds off the poverty these kinds of Orwellian symptoms have brought upon us.
DO NOT PASS THIS CA-CA OK!!!!
Dr Jay
3598. Rick Martinez | May 13, 2008 at 3:15 am
If this ordinance is passed, it will effectively kill the local music scene in Chicago. Don’t let the rich heritage of Chicago’s music scene die in the hands of the bureaucrats!
3599. Jeff | May 13, 2008 at 3:20 am
This would be the worst thing to happen to the city since the Chicago Fire. And I’m not talking about the soccer team…
3600. Rita Zambon | May 13, 2008 at 3:21 am
Chicago has become a great tourist city for national and international visitors and also for suburbanites. One destination these visitors come to are the small theaters and lounges all around the city. Our theater district is beginning to attract attention just like Broadway in New York.
This myopic legislation appears to be intended to kill all small venues in the city. Do you really want to send all the people who visit these theaters and lounges to the suburbs?
Please rethink what you are doing. Please be careful that all future legislation is well thought out and the consequences are carefully considered before it is passed from committee. We are paying you to think.
3601. John Kozlowski | May 13, 2008 at 3:22 am
This is a monstrosity. The idea of this even becoming a reality should frighten even the most cold hearted people. In a time like today, we need the most fun and entertainment that causes harm to no one that we can get. Please keep Chicago, Chicago.
3602. Jason Hartman | May 13, 2008 at 3:23 am
This is so ridiculous that it’s hard for me to believe it. Just in case it is somehow true I must state my disgust for such a blatant disrespect for underground artists and clubs that cater to them. It’s almost infringing on freedom of speech because everyone deserves to be heard and have a venue for their voice. Who wants to live in a world where you there’s no choices on what cultural events they attend? Or if the choices are monitored by only the richest corporations that can afford to feed you any kind of bullshit art they choose? It’s another example of how money controls everything and art can be censored by the rich. Is this Tipper Gore or Blockbuster’s idea? I’m not sure this is for real, it’s too disgusting.
3603. Tony Gilbert-Davis | May 13, 2008 at 3:24 am
To say that I agree and am against the bill is, or seems redundant. How could I not be? Something so fantastically Orwellian and Disgusting should remain within the realm of paranoid fantasy. Stay out of my hometown with that shit. Thank you.
3604. Thom Cummings | May 13, 2008 at 3:26 am
As a Londoner who visits Chicago regularly, I would be extremely disappointed to see places like the Empty Bottle disappear. A thriving arts scene, in particular an independent and local music scene, is fundamental to what makes Chicago a cool place to visit. Smaller venues cater for the innovative and exciting grass roots of music and removing these would set a worrying precendent that means Chicago would be in danger of becomnig just another big, bland city.
3605. Evan | May 13, 2008 at 3:37 am
Save Chicago Music!
3606. Rebecca | May 13, 2008 at 3:45 am
Chicago is known for their music and the music scene, if this ordinance passes, there goes people’s livlihood and the reason people come to the great city of Chicago.
3607. Ian McMahon | May 13, 2008 at 3:45 am
Chicago is an epicenter of American culture through music.One huge reason for that is that anybody can perform at any place that will allow them to. This law will prevent the true starving artists, that actually have a passion for what they are doing, from being able to bring their work to the public. And we all know, all of the BEST artisis, from any genre, started out poor. Don’t inhibit musical growth.
3608. Claudia Persico | May 13, 2008 at 3:46 am
The very heart of every city are its arts and music. Passing such a law would deprive Chicago of its greatest virtue: its culture. Furthermore, with the economy in recession, passing this law will stifle local businesses and cause the local economy to collapse further. This law will put most of the local art, theater and music venues out of business. More tax dollars would be made from keeping local businesses in business!
3609. Joanna Kristin Shaw | May 13, 2008 at 3:47 am
Cultural provides a platform for rigor, commitment, expression, and strength, These characteristics attribute to the qualities that fight the crime and disturbances that often breed in cities. Removing the artistic integrity from Chicago would hold such a negative impact on the quality of human life and economic value.
3610. Diana | May 13, 2008 at 3:47 am
this is crazy. i haven’t been to Chicago, yet, but am looking forward to the day i can come to visit and enjoy all the great music acts and underground culture that is just so amazing and all the people involved in them are just so talented, it would be a shame to let that talent go to waste. just disregard all that and leave Chicago as it is. thankyou
3611. Jason Richard Brown | May 13, 2008 at 3:49 am
(My arms are pointing towards the heavens) NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How stupid does one have to be to do this? Needless to say, if this goes to the mat, I will make it a personal mission to have everyone responsible for this unseated. Yes, I PROMISE.
3612. Will | May 13, 2008 at 3:49 am
This would be a huge blow to Chicago’s arts scenes. In my experience city gov’t views itself as the fountain from which everything flows, which might explain why they think this is a good idea …
3613. Brad G | May 13, 2008 at 3:51 am
This is a joke right? Who do these people think that they are? This is actually so blatant and offensive that you would think they would be a little more clever about the wording.
3614. Mike K | May 13, 2008 at 3:51 am
Stop the madness! Why is OUR city council over-regulating something like this? Your job is to do things to help this city, not hurt it. The Chicago music and arts scene is already falling far behind places like NY, SF, and LA. This will surely be the nail in the coffin.
With murders and crime way up in this city, it seems to me that the city council has bigger and worse problems to worry about. Please stop wasting your time on things like this. If its not foie gras, its promoters. Chicago is becoming a national laughing stock. You are turing this city into a generic strip mall of cookie cutter chain stores and restaurants devoid of culture and soul. What next?
3615. Ilko Davidov | May 13, 2008 at 3:53 am
Stop this ordinance! We didn’t have such things even under communism! Do you want to chase the few remaining artists out of town and complete turning it it into the corporate capital of suburbia?
3616. Lysa Clavenna | May 13, 2008 at 3:59 am
this ones for andy.
3617. Erin Casey | May 13, 2008 at 4:03 am
This is ridiculous and extremely unamerican, the city has better things to do than try to save its overspending ass by oppressing musicians that bring life and culture to Chicago. If it does happens to pass, I guess I’ll just have to pretend it doesn’t exist and promote my band as I see fit like I always have. At least I’ll have my dignity unlike these corrupt aldermen.
3618. Lance | May 13, 2008 at 4:08 am
I oppose this ordinance. It guidelines are completely out of reach for most local event promoters.
3619. zflanerie | May 13, 2008 at 4:13 am
Music is moonlight in the gloomy night of life.
Jean Paul Richter
3620. Medhat Tannous | May 13, 2008 at 4:15 am
Pls stop this ordinance. It will oppress creative young people. our survival in this great country is based on creative thinking.
3621. Me Me Hughes | May 13, 2008 at 4:26 am
There are so many other things in this city that need help and work on. This city is known for music especially Blues. There are alot of passionate people that have the love for music period. Everyone that attend events are not disorderly or compromises the element of living. People just want to enjoy good Music without all the hassle of red tape. PLEASE do not do this!
Put energies into other projects that really need the help.
Mizz Me Me
3622. 1 | May 13, 2008 at 4:34 am
I oppose this ordinance. Stop trying to take control!!@$!
3623. Tania T. | May 13, 2008 at 4:40 am
I do not approve. D:
3624. Bryan Erlenbaugh | May 13, 2008 at 4:52 am
as a theater major and as a band member this will do nothing but hurt the community of Chicago. Chicago is well know for its musical talent and acting and all other forms of artistic abilities. this ridiculous law is unfair to all those who care for the world of creativity.
i say no to the passing of this law
sincerely
Bryan Erlenbaugh
3625. Jim Strong | May 13, 2008 at 4:55 am
I don’t agree to this new ordinance at all.We live in a free society.Why not let people be able to hear some of our best bands play.Please don’t stop the music.Thanks
3626. Nicole Jirtle | May 13, 2008 at 4:58 am
I live for live music, and if this ordinance was passed, I would consider moving from Chicago. Please keep our city teeming with magnificent ART.
3627. Joy Austra | May 13, 2008 at 5:00 am
I realize safety is a concern. But the goal for any additional regulation should be enforcement of current laws and punishment of those who do not obey them, not increased burdens on existing businesses.
As fan of local, indie artists I must disagree with this ordinance because it will stifle the livelihood of many stakeholders in the local music industry.
I love music and I love Chicago music venues.
Please don’t pass the Promoters Ordinance.
3628. Kata Vucic | May 13, 2008 at 5:13 am
If the City Council passes this ordinance, Chicago will lose a vital part of what makes this city so great. Please don’t let this happen.
3629. Dwayne B Nelson | May 13, 2008 at 5:24 am
hey the young starts need a place to get their music heard,to pass such a ordinance would be a crime ,don’t our young bands have a right to be rockin on,where do you think the big bands started? It’s their right of freedom
3630. Adam Harsha | May 13, 2008 at 5:25 am
The promoter’s ordinance is just another way for the city to collect more money from the wrong avenues. There is no possible way that it could benefit anyone and needs to be stopped dead in its tracks.
3631. Gunhild Seim | May 13, 2008 at 5:25 am
As a norwegian musician with musician friends in chicago, I strongly disapprove. This ordinance could do a lot of harm! Regulations like this will create more obstacles for the hard-working individual artists that I know, many of which I already wonder how they survive in their every-day life. In general it seems like the situation for artists in your country are worsening, for a lot of different reasons. That’s a conversation topic in musician circles over here, and I think it’s sad.
3632. David Regan | May 13, 2008 at 5:26 am
Please! Please! Do not pass this ordinance it will ruin what makes Chicago a great American City.
3633. Dino Gardiakos | May 13, 2008 at 5:31 am
Please don’t let this happen to our City.
Its our duty to encourage the arts not regulate them.
3634. Corky Siegel | May 13, 2008 at 5:34 am
Over 40 years I have been a performing musician in Chicago. I had many opportunities to move to LA or NY but I stayed here because Chicago has something to offer that no other large city has. It has a diversity that is rare and deep. Goodbye Diversity – Hello Chicago Promoter’s Ordinance. Corky Siegel
3635. Tanisha Pina | May 13, 2008 at 5:38 am
cmon chicago;what are you thinking?
i dont approve !
3636. Tanisha Pina | May 13, 2008 at 5:40 am
cmon chicago;what are you thinking?
i dont approve !
3637. Michael Marbach | May 13, 2008 at 5:40 am
This is rediculous! How can they take away what makes Chicago what it is? Idiots! Don’t let it happen people!
3638. Valli Paola | May 13, 2008 at 5:40 am
I’m not even American, but I’m a fan of lots of Chicago bands that grew thanks to some of the aforementioned venues and I’m not going to shut up on this: let’s save the music in Chicago!
3639. Brad Cole | May 13, 2008 at 5:45 am
This ordinance is wrong and a culture killer. It must be re thought and should not pass as is.
BC
3640. Ethan Haar | May 13, 2008 at 5:45 am
Please leave the small venues alone. They are having enough troubles from owners and landlords, we don’t need the city shutting them down too.
3641. Eric Knight | May 13, 2008 at 5:46 am
Every time I visit Chicago, I try to find a show due to the great music scene, and the variety of culture. But if this is passed, even locals would have a hard time. How can you show pride in your cities music culture if no one can hear it without going to great lengths?
3642. Len Foote | May 13, 2008 at 5:49 am
This doesn’t make any sense. Is there some sort of theater crime wave I don’t know about? Or a series of onstage accidents? Are we only listening to big money?
3643. BJ Barratt | May 13, 2008 at 5:49 am
I do not understand the purpose of such legislation. What is the reasoning behind it? Is there supposed to be an ‘up-side’? Because obviously thousands of people here, including myself, see nothing but unreasonabe, poorly thought out, unjustified and heavy handed law-making threatening the delicate balance of art and culture, with little or no thought to the ramifications.
3644. James Johnson | May 13, 2008 at 5:49 am
please do not pass this ordinance.
thank you in advance.
3645. Nancy Syburg | May 13, 2008 at 5:55 am
The money that the city would gain from this would not be great enough to balance the loss of our reputation as a vibrant place for artists. We’ve struggled long and hard to be considered “world-class” and this is not worth the loss of our excellent and diverse music scene. All visitors to our city don’t go to Navy Pier…we would lose artists and the people who support them.
3646. J. Melackrinos | May 13, 2008 at 5:56 am
Signed in opposition to the ordinance.
3647. Chris Pagnani | May 13, 2008 at 5:59 am
As a teenager growing up in the Chicago suburbs, the most exciting thing for me was to take the El into the city and check out indie/underground bands at venues like the Riviera, Schuba’s, and ESPECIALLY the Metro. In fact, one of the most important moments in my life was when I first had the opportunity to play the Metro for 700 friends and family – it was truly breathtaking!
Please do not allow this to happen to our city. Music is a huge part of what makes our city so significant and to lose that would be a great travesty. Save our venues/promoters, save our scene, save our city. Thank you.
3648. Jeff Gruszka | May 13, 2008 at 6:00 am
Please don’t pass this into law.
3649. Nick | May 13, 2008 at 6:01 am
Foie gras, cigarettes and now the arts? Take away my soul why you’re at it and let them build condos in it’s palce.
3650. Rachel | May 13, 2008 at 6:02 am
This ordinance is completely unnecessary and will only serve to put more money in the pockets of greedy Chicago politicians. I pray that this ordinance does not pass!!!
3651. George Costas | May 13, 2008 at 6:03 am
reguardless of whtever scenes chicago has established that will die im simply pissed offf that politicians think that this kind of control is what people want from them. i mean theres already video cameras that survey for both crime and speeding violations do we really need another bullshit protection law
3652. Petra van Nuis | May 13, 2008 at 6:04 am
This is a grave mistake!! The arts need more support, not less. As artists we need laws that encourage small venues to present live music, not make it harder.
The arts are a vital part of the community. Not only do they nourish the soul, educate, and bring people together, but they provide a reason for tourism that is vital to the city’s economy.
3653. Carolyn Washow | May 13, 2008 at 6:04 am
Please! Please! Do not pass this ordinance it will ruin what makes Chicago a great American City.
3654. Mike Kim | May 13, 2008 at 6:05 am
If this thing passes, I will make it my mission to get every last dirty politician who voted for this, out of their seats come election time.
3655. Wills Glasspiegel | May 13, 2008 at 6:05 am
Just wanted to voice my support. Thank you for putting together this post.
3656. Kevin Smith | May 13, 2008 at 6:09 am
This would be a terrible blow to the national, and even international reputation that Chicago has a city of first-class music. No more bands will ever have the chance to thrive i this city like Wilco, Smashing Pumpkins, Tortoise, Sea and Cake, Lawrence Arms, Rise Against, Naked Raygun, the Effigies, etc If this ordinance had been passed in the 30s, we would never have been able to offer Howlin Wolf and Muddy Waters to the world. Stop this ordinance and respect the great past and future that Chicago music has.
3657. Eric Hochberg | May 13, 2008 at 6:13 am
As a musician who has played night clubs and concerts in the Chicago area and the world for 35 years, this ordinance is just another blow to the little guy, life and livelihood. This ordinance will negatively affect the cultural life of the city to no end.
3658. Linda | May 13, 2008 at 6:15 am
No!
3659. Evan Hill | May 13, 2008 at 6:15 am
Killing Chicago’s smaller venues will do nothing to help the city as a whole.
3660. Rachel Goad | May 13, 2008 at 6:19 am
The music and art scenes in Chicago are vibrant, and to pass ordinances against them would be a big mistake for the city. The creativity stemming from these scenes is inspiring and makes Chicago a much better place to live. I would be very disappointed in, and pretty angry with, the city if it were to pass this ordinance.
3661. Gerald Kuyper | May 13, 2008 at 6:19 am
This ordinance is complete and utter disrespect to the youth of today. They are trying to let the 30 thru 60 age group be the only ones that say what goes on. This completely ridiculous an should be stopped from happening. Chicage should be know for all of it’s cultural taste, not a town you can go see a play in. This town gets a lot of it’s popularity from the local bands that come in and play. Bands like Disturbed, Local H, you could literally name hundred if not thousands. You would also be turning children away from wanting to play instruments, because of their older brothers and sisters that have to go threw this. So the city of chicago would rise in violence in gangs as well as many other things. All i am saying here is that this would effects us ,and make a major impact. So please don’t pass the ordinance.
3662. Michael L. Hale | May 13, 2008 at 6:19 am
Should this regulation be adopted, why should I leave my city of Grand Rapids, Michigan to visit Chicago? We have a local history of supporting our local talent, and Chicago may soon force artists to the suburbs. I don’t want to visit the suburbs – I want to visit Chicago . . . . but maybe I should just stay home . . . . and maybe I ought to tell my friends and family to do the same – Chicago won’t be just the same anymore. We’ll just keep our money here!
Somebody better tell Frank Sinatra that Chicago might no longer be “My Kind of Town!”
3663. thomas schallmo | May 13, 2008 at 6:19 am
Stop! dont pass this ordinance, its horrible, all the little local bands should not have to pay for licenses, this will just cause our local music scene to crumble. stop trying to make up for your budget shortcoming and the mismanagement of our money that you already take by taxing our local bands who dont make any real money anyway.
3664. heather | May 13, 2008 at 6:21 am
I’m proud of the Chicago arts and culture and to say that I am from this area. But think of all of the great musicians who have come out of Chicago thus far, and the potential for so many to come. If this passes these people won’t even have a fighting chance. Art should be shared and not restricted. Please do not pass this ordinance.
3665. Joe Janes | May 13, 2008 at 6:22 am
Music is the heart of Chicago. This is the political equivalent of forcing Chicago to have overpriced pacemaker implanted.
3666. Urban Djin | May 13, 2008 at 6:22 am
At a time when the recorded music business is disappearing fast, the last thing this city needs is a further burden on live music, one of the few ways left for musicians to make a living. That this silly ordinance is a reaction to the E2 disaster in which politically connected club owners ignored perfectly adequate existing laws is just too perverse.
Just another reason to leave Chicago. It’s becoming an even more profoundly anti-cultural city. That Chicago is so crawling with talent makes it tragic. A city without a future.
3667. Kristina Garcia | May 13, 2008 at 6:25 am
Passing this ordinance would be a horrible blow to Chicagos amazing local music scene. Don’t pass it!
3668. Jamie | May 13, 2008 at 6:25 am
The ordinance is ridiculous!! One of the draws of Chicago is the rich culture of music, art, and theater. As a teacher, I want the kids I teach to have as MUCH exposure to art and music as possible, not only those who can afford to purchase this license. Please do NOT pass this ordinance.
3669. Bridget Hutchen | May 13, 2008 at 6:25 am
Don’t pass the ordinance. U2 was a case of bad management – no need to punish all of Chicago for one nightclub.
3670. Thomas | May 13, 2008 at 6:26 am
You cannot pass this ordinance. Period.
3671. Dawn V. Gay | May 13, 2008 at 6:27 am
CHICAGO cultivates CULTURE…that’s part of our Innovation and Leadership.
In support of creativity in our great city, let’s rethink this legislation promoting , imagination, sounds and Art of Possibility!
3672. Nicole Tompkins | May 13, 2008 at 6:29 am
Please do not let this ordinance pass. Chicago’s music and art scene is what makes Chicago such an amazing place, and if this passes, it will be such a loss to the culture of the city and to those who love it.
3673. Dan Sniderman | May 13, 2008 at 6:30 am
I’m sure the intent of the ordinance is well meaning – but clearly it is flawed. I think best course of the action for the City Council would simply be to table the ordinance and send it back to be re-written so that it accomplishes more good than harm.
While I live 7 blocks north of the city in Evanston, I have been a working musician in Chicago for almost 30 years. It’s gotten harder and harder for musicians and this will make things woefully worse.
3674. Jim Kopeny | May 13, 2008 at 6:32 am
This would do a good job of killing both the live music and dance club scenes in Chicago. I oppose this disastrous ordinance.
3675. Brian Fuller | May 13, 2008 at 6:32 am
This proposed ordinance is not only outrageous, but out-and-out absurd! How dare the city of Chicago try to inhibit the arts in any form. It’s bad enough street performers have to get peddler’s licenses.
Keep the arts free in Chicago.
3676. Peter Zambos | May 13, 2008 at 6:34 am
this is a complete over-reaction to the great white disaster. ridiculous.
3677. Matt Keeshin | May 13, 2008 at 6:36 am
This ordinance would effectively kill what is left of the crown jewel of Chicago culture, the blues scene. By eliminating local club owners and self-managed bands from the scene, we would be left with a single corporatized venue like House of Blues where we could pay up for the privilege of seeing a touring blues act come through town once a month.
3678. Marta Chmielowiec | May 13, 2008 at 6:37 am
Totally against this ordinance!! This idea is ridiculous and mean to all of the bands!!
3679. Dominik Norquist | May 13, 2008 at 6:37 am
This is complete nonsense, why would anyone in a city like Chicago even allow this sort of thing to happen is beyond me. If this promoter’s ordinance is passed then I have nothing to do but leave and go back to beautiful Colorado where such things do not exist, plus, I get natural beauty of mountains, less rats, less traffic and clean air!
Come on Chicago… start thinking straight!
3680. Elbio Barilari | May 13, 2008 at 6:39 am
Chicago has already lost some of its best musical venues, this ordinance is going to kill all the rest. In passing this ordinance the City Council will be doing exactly the opposite to its mission. I have 2 theories. Number 1: the ordinance is going to help some big guys contributing to political campains; is corruption. Number 2: the ordinance was not well elaborated; it is just ignorance.
3681. Jordan. | May 13, 2008 at 6:40 am
I was completely and utterly shocked when I saw this. How can someone even THINK of closing the hearts of Chicago? I have spent my best and worst days in these venues; I’ve been low, I’ve been high. These places mean so much to the natives of the city. I don’t understand how anyone could try to crush the fire that lives in the stage, built by each live show there ever was. Chicago itself is known for the beating that never stops. This ordinance is snapping the wires. The city won’t be the same. And literally, if you don’t think that people will leave, think again.
3682. Jolanta Serges | May 13, 2008 at 6:40 am
Please let the Second City thrive. Live entertainment is our corner stone!
3683. Lauren Deutsch | May 13, 2008 at 6:40 am
The City is already burdening small clubs with skyrocketing licensing costs–and now making it hard to impossible for small presenters to help sustain what is one of the most vibrant music scenes in the nation.
Instead of foiling partnerships and collaborations the City should be finding ways to cultivate them.
3684. Penn Mason | May 13, 2008 at 6:40 am
I don’t understand how anyone trying to pass this law could possibly see it as as a benefit to the community. That is, ultimately, the reason for enacting laws, isn’t it (or at least supposed to be)?
Where are up and coming artists supposed to bloom?
That aside, doesn’t this ordinance seem a bit counter-productive for the economy of Chicago?
3685. Osvaldo Paese | May 13, 2008 at 6:42 am
This is a sign of a desperate nation. Not just city but as a country.
What are they thinking?
3686. Kevin McClure | May 13, 2008 at 6:42 am
It won’t be Chicago anymore.
3687. Lynn Rockcastle | May 13, 2008 at 6:44 am
Please, Chicago. Don’t do this. Continue thinking with a business mentality and you will kill all real culture that IS Chicago.
3688. Alexa Karczmar | May 13, 2008 at 6:45 am
Independent music in the Chicagoland area is my EVERYTHING. Honestly, local shows are the only thing that take my mind off the stress of things like high school and stuff going on at home. I have no idea what I would do without them.
If this ordinance is passed, how will small town bands get by or be recognized? And honestly, how much business will the city as a whole lose as a consequence of this?
Please, think of the music.
3689. Brian Galitz | May 13, 2008 at 6:45 am
This is another example of the city trying to squeeze every drop of culture (and every dollar) out of Chicago. I’d be really jazzed if someone with any kind of brains would actually run against the Mayor. If this shit gets passed I am going to move.
3690. Joanna Hettinga | May 13, 2008 at 6:46 am
This just can’t happen. Period.
3691. POKEMONOJEFF//LYRES-GROUP//BOSTON | May 13, 2008 at 6:48 am
I’M STILL HERE IN BOSTON/CAMBRIDGE MASSACHUSETTS
AND I CAN –TELL– YOU THAT STIFLING THE ARTS IN –YOUR–
CITY BY PASSING THIS/THESE CHICAGO ORDINENCE(S)
WILL MEAN: NO REASON TO VISIT CHICAGO
I’VE PLAYED AT THE CUYBBY BEAR SINCE 1984 AND EVEN THE
METRO. BUT WITHOUT A REAONABLE WAY/PLACE TO
PERFORM LIKE A SMALL VENUE, THERE WILL BE –NO–
REASON TO EVER VISIT CHICAGO –EVER–
THE MUSICIAN IN MASSACHUSETTS WAS KILLED IN 1993/1994
WHEN RENT CONTROL WAS VOTED OUT AND OUR ARTS
COMMUNITY HAS –NEVER– RECOVERED BUT….
HAVING PROMOTERS PICK UP THE TAB FOR THIS NONSENSE
IN CHICAGO MEANS –NO– GIGS EVER AGAIN
EXCUSE ME, WHERE DOES THE CITY COUNCIL –THINK–
ANY GREAT ART COMES FROM ? IT HAS TO START
SOMEWHERE CHICAGO NEEDS IT’S SMALL VENUES
TO BE ABLE TO NOT ONLY SURVIVE BUT FLOURISH
WITH THIS/THESE ORDINANCE(S) –NOT– BEING EVEN
CONSIDERED
SINCERELY
PMJ/LYRES-GROUP
AND
3692. Emmy Stanley | May 13, 2008 at 6:48 am
please…. stop and think…. what about all the young artists that will have to leave Chi town… is that what you want??? vote ‘STOP’
3693. Kathleen Michalski | May 13, 2008 at 6:49 am
STOP THE MADNESS!!!!!
3694. SouthSide of Fearless Radio | May 13, 2008 at 6:51 am
For almost 2yrs, I’ve reviewed over 350 bands at venues such as Metro, Double Door, Elbo Room, The Abbey, etc. These owners and their security team have handled crowd control issues very well WITHOUT this ordinance in place. IF this ordinance does not only effects the bands and venues but fans and reviewers like myself as well.
If passed, many local bands will perform in the newer places in the suburbs to raising ticket prices on certain bands which draw huge crowds to a venue. Events like MOB Fest or Emergenza will be limited. Touring bands probably will have second thoughts about performing in Chicago taking their show to other cities.
STAND UP AND PROTEST, bands, fans, music lovers and reviewers.
This ordinance effects everyone!
3695. Tom Weinberg | May 13, 2008 at 6:51 am
The proposed ordinance contradicts everything that Chicago needs in the way of entertainment.
It is understandable that promoters need to take responsibility for their venues, but it should not be a forced on anyone.
Who benefifts? Insurance companies and underwriters.
Who loses? All the rest of us.
3696. Marc G | May 13, 2008 at 6:52 am
This ordinance is completely unnecessary. One of the things that drew me(along with countless others) to the great city of Chicago was its thriving cultural scene. Passing this legislation would deprive people of their right to express themselves!! You shouldn’t need a license to do that
3697. Lynne Colbert | May 13, 2008 at 6:53 am
as a former resident of Chicago, I’m disappointed something like this is even going to be considered. This severely hinders the grassroot efforts that I love about the music scene there.
3698. Becky | May 13, 2008 at 6:54 am
Coming from someone who has taken many trips to Chicago (FROM MARYLAND) for the hidden music scene is sicken to think that a city could even try to pass a law like this.
Not only will you lose my love for the city, but you will also loose my thousands of dollars that I give to your city each year to make the trip up there for weeks at a time.
3699. Todd Leiter-Weintraub | May 13, 2008 at 6:55 am
What truly makes Chicago a world-class city is its art and music scene. Forget the architecture, what Chicago’s true contribution to American culture has been has come directly out of the culture that this ordinance will certainly destroy.
Second City? Steppenwolf? Metro? Lounge Ax? None of these places would have been able to function at all had this ordinance been in-place when they first opened. And then we may not have had John Belushi, John Malkovich, Naked Raygun, or Wilco, just to touch on a very few that were nurtured by the places mentioned.
Not just bad for Chicago, but bad for the world at large.
3700. Jason Dunlap | May 13, 2008 at 6:55 am
Ridiculous!!! This cannot pass!
3701. Aaron Dargo | May 13, 2008 at 6:57 am
Being from milwaukee I see this as a big blow to tourism as well. Myself and many others make frequent trips to Chicago, spending lots of money when we go to see events. Getting hotel rooms, food, drinks, and shopping in local stores. We can easliy spend $200-$500 per person while there for a night. So not only is this stifling culture and creativity, its going to affect tourism as well. The city should really take a second look at what and who else would be affected by this.
3702. Meg | May 13, 2008 at 6:57 am
Live music in Chicago is a mainstay of our life, and small venues are where new talent finds its voice. Chicago is so rich because of its wonderful variety of clubs and talent. This ordinance would strangle the natural growth of creative expression and turn the city’s music into a money engine only. Please don’t pass this ordinance.
3703. Esteban Colon | May 13, 2008 at 6:58 am
I live in the suburbs, and I love venturing into the city. What keeps me coming out is the thriving arts scene. It kept me out of trouble when I was young, and keeps me close to Chicago.
This ordinance says to me, “Chicago doesn’t care about its smaller venues, its vibrant arts scene and would rather have you spend your time elsewhere.”
Please don’t take away the Chicago I love.
3704. Sandy Rohan | May 13, 2008 at 6:59 am
Passing this is a slap in the face to young adults. Passing this would put more kids on the streets where they DO NOT belong. Going to shows is a legal and inexpensive way for them to go out and have a fun time. This is a nice venue for young college students with low funding to be able to go out and enjoy an evening. Raising the costs would only make things harder for those trying to have a legal night out and promoting new talented bands from our area.
3705. Roman Zabicki | May 13, 2008 at 7:00 am
It is a sad day when this kind of legislation is proposed. I’ll be calling my alderman later today to express my opposition to this bill. Chicago needs to keep its nightlife.
3706. Andrea Jovan | May 13, 2008 at 7:01 am
Here is the address to Alderman Gene Schulter’s office on the northside of Chicago. Apparently he is available on Wednesday nights to meet with his constituents. Maybe we should all show up there tomorrow and let him know how we feel in person!
47th Ward Public Service Office
Serving 52 precints, the 47th Ward Public Service Office is located at 4237 N. Lincoln Ave. The Public Service Office staff is available to assist you in a wide range of issues.
Office Hours
Monday – Friday: 9:00 am to 5:00 pm (Closed from noon to 1:00 pm)
Saturday: 9:00 am to noon.
The office is also open for constituent hours on Wednesday evenings from 7:00 pm to 9:00 pm. Alderman Schulter is available on most Wednesday evenings to meet with local residents. Please call in advance to confirm that Alderman Schulter will be available that evening.
3707. Loren Roseman | May 13, 2008 at 7:01 am
Chicago is music. Take away the music and a great part of what make Chicago unique will go too. What’s Next- Polish sausages, deep dish pizza and Italian Beef?
3708. Brian Boes | May 13, 2008 at 7:02 am
Please stop this ordinance from becoming a reality in our city
3709. Cara | May 13, 2008 at 7:03 am
this is insane! i’ve lived in Chicago my whloe life and music is probably one of the biggest things in my life. By passing this ordinance it would RUIN the music culture in Chicago and this music culture is so important to so many people. This means so much to adults and teenagers and even bangs that are big now because some of them wouldn’t be who they are if not for local shows. Please do not pass this ordinance. It just can’t happen.
3710. cassandra akim | May 13, 2008 at 7:03 am
I am against the ordinance!
3711. Leslie Caines | May 13, 2008 at 7:03 am
This ordinance is really going to hinder the Chicago music scene. Honestly, many of the artists today wouldn’t even exist if not for these smaller venues.
3712. Clark Besch | May 13, 2008 at 7:03 am
This is ridiculous. My 60′s Chicago music idols would not exist if this was in place back then. Do not pass this! It is outrageous.
3713. Patrick Johnson | May 13, 2008 at 7:04 am
As a former musician who still loves to go to see local bands play, I am strongly opposed to this proposed ordinance. We need a better written ordinance that doesn’t seek to punish the good promoters out there, and allows bands to book their own shows without jumping thru hoops at city hall. In addition, there is no reason why the City of Chicago is attempting to profit from the problem of unethical or unsafe promoters on the backs of perfectly legal and safe promoters within Chicago. In addition, the events in the past that caused the problems that created this reaction were already illegal in several ways. Why do we need a new ordinance to stop a problem that is already illegal. It seems to me that we just need to enforce the laws already on the books. I’m speaking of ordinances covering the number of exits required, maximum capacity per fire codes, building codes, etc. Pyrotechnics are already illegal. We already have maximum capacity levels clearly understood by bar owners, and any time building codes are not followed, there are fines and repercussions, not to mention inspections. So, come to think of it, we don’t need a new ordinance at all. We just need to promote better awareness, and enforce the laws we already have.
3714. Warren Mendoza | May 13, 2008 at 7:05 am
Wow. Fascism is alive and well everyone. Ridiculous.
3715. Mark Knapke | May 13, 2008 at 7:05 am
Is this city just for tourists now? Is it only for the “young professionals” and the well-off? Should not the City Council be concerned with cultivating and expanding local cultural expression, instead of restricting creativity? Should not the City Council be thinking of ways to protect our privacy instead of finding creative new ways to impose upon it? Should the City Council not engage its constituents in public debate over public policy with the public?
I’m saddened and ashamed that the city of Chicago’s beuracracy has led us to this
3716. Katya Sourikova | May 13, 2008 at 7:07 am
As a musician living and working in London, UK, ( and a regular visitor of Chicago ) I feel a sense of solidarity with the local Chicago musicians and creative artists in strong objection to this ordinance. A similar thing happened in London about 7 years ago, which resulted in many small independent venues being shut down, and local musicians, especially those playing non-mainstream music suffered badly. I sincerely hope this does not happen to Chicago.
3717. Brent Carter | May 13, 2008 at 7:07 am
Come on City Council. This is crazy! Do you really need the cash bad enough that you will put our culture at risk?
3718. Christine K. | May 13, 2008 at 7:09 am
Shame on the City Council!!! Growing up in this city with the opportunity to go to a neighborhood high school, bar, or street fair and listen to amazing music for free or virtually free was one of life’s highlights.And a lot of that music was from unknowns that were making their way into the business one show at a time.
It’s a crime to even consider such an ordinance. It would be killing off the Chicago music scene as we know it.
DON”T PASS THIS ORDINANCE!!!!
3719. chelsea | May 13, 2008 at 7:09 am
i dont even live n chicago but i love the music scene that is there.alot of great music has come out of chicago.its ashame that these stupid people are doing this.chciago music isnt going down without a fight
3720. Emily | May 13, 2008 at 7:09 am
Please don’t take away the best parts of the Chicago music scene.
Don’t pass this ordinance!!
3721. Katie Idzik | May 13, 2008 at 7:10 am
I love the small shows too much – please add me to the petition!
3722. Jessica | May 13, 2008 at 7:10 am
I am against this ordinance. It could affect more than the Chicago music scene – it could affect street festivals, running events, and anythings else that can be defined as an “event”. Keep our Chicago alive!
3723. Christopher Furman | May 13, 2008 at 7:12 am
The effect of this ordinance will most likely silence the creative spirit of the performance culture in chicago ! Some of the best stuff is organized by folks who just want good work to be seen, and if they have to deal with a bloated bureaucracy that isn’t interested in the small guy…then they won’t bother.
Say NO to “Event Promoters ordinance” !
3724. Jay Kelly | May 13, 2008 at 7:14 am
Stupid move City of Chicago. Stupid move.
3725. Jeff Grossberg | May 13, 2008 at 7:15 am
Chicago is known the world over for its amazing diversity of music and performance. In order to curb a few illegal parties, the City is passing a law that can damage the root to tourism and culture forever. Think hard about the concequences please.
3726. Hailey Arredondo | May 13, 2008 at 7:18 am
Add my name to the list as well.
3727. Adriana Montiel | May 13, 2008 at 7:18 am
despite so many other problems in this city, trying to make an issue out of something that doesn’t need to be is just stupid. this law cannot pass, music is the best thing about this city.
3728. Neal | May 13, 2008 at 7:19 am
Just another way for the crooks that run this city, to bleed people dry!!!! WE WILL NEVER GIVE IN!!!!!
3729. Diane Green | May 13, 2008 at 7:19 am
Being able to play in a funky little venue is what brought me to this town. And now Chicago has me, in a helping profession in a way that my hometown never could. Do yourself a favor, Chicago! By blocking small and upcoming musicians and other artists from having an affordable place to perform their creativities, you could be obstructing the artistic path of someone like the next Billie Holiday or Django Reinhardt; BB King or Charlie Parker; Johnny Cash or Loretta Lynn! The small business owners should be free to create their own agreements with the artists. Keep Freedom for Artists alive and well in Chicago! You’ll be glad you did!
3730. Jean Pickering | May 13, 2008 at 7:19 am
Please vote against this ordinance. We can not continue to change the culinary, physical and cultural landscape that has made this city so great. It is because of our many CURRENT features that so many tourists flock to our city. If we continue to eliminate them, people and industry will stop coming and then we will lose all of the economic growth that Dailey wants to bring to the City.
3731. Amy Hardiek | May 13, 2008 at 7:20 am
This ordinance would kill all independent arts production. It would also inhibit not for profit organizations such as The Old Town School of Folk Music, one of the city’s well respected associations. Performing artists are already squeaking by financially. I’ve seen wonderful theatre, dance and musical productions, when I know nobody is making a profit. What happens to our arts? I’m disappointed to find on ordinance such as this under consideration.
3732. Erin Rensink | May 13, 2008 at 7:21 am
This ordinance is a terrible idea!
3733. Ryan Walker | May 13, 2008 at 7:21 am
The small, independent music community is part of what makes Chicago great. Please don’t kill it. In a city where we’re supposed to be concerned with keeping small business alive, why are we trying to run small venues out of business?
3734. Robert Rose | May 13, 2008 at 7:24 am
I support blocking this ordinance. Chicago Promoters have been very supportive of our efforts to market our shows “American Latino TV” and “LatiNation” on My 50.
Count me in.
Robert Rose
Executive Producer
American Latino TV
3735. Chad Finken | May 13, 2008 at 7:25 am
Worst Ordinance Ever!
3736. Val Kolovos | May 13, 2008 at 7:25 am
Below is a copy of the email I sent to my Alderman:
I recently heard about the “Event Promoter’s Ordinance” and am deeply concerned about the effect it would have on Chicago’s vibrant music scene. I have several friends in local bands that would be seriously affected by the vague definitions in this ordinance. Please don’t allow this to pass. It’s effect on Chicago music would be devastating.
3737. Timothy Gorton | May 13, 2008 at 7:26 am
Stop this ordinance save Chicago Culture!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We want our Music and Live entertainment!!!
3738. Cuahutemoc Morfin | May 13, 2008 at 7:27 am
I have never heard of such ridiculous proposition to desiminate what makes Chicago the great and unique city it is. Not only do we need to stop this ordinance from passing but also have city council prevent such counter productive propositions get to the voting level.
Small Level or Large Level Art and Theatre are the heart beat of Chicago and the world for that matter, let your alderman know, tell him or her to vote NO ” Event Promoters Ordinance”
Let us keep track on our representatives and how they vote and who proposses such ordinances that destroys many young people’s goals and dreams.
Respectfully,
Morfin
3739. Teresa Pankratz | May 13, 2008 at 7:27 am
Grassroots creativity is what makes Chicago the vibrant city that it is. Please vote NO on this ordinance.
3740. Elizabeth Kordeluk | May 13, 2008 at 7:27 am
As a musician, I am deeply disgusted and outraged to the point of being in a vomitous rage! This city is known for the Arts, music and theatre has been part of Chicago’s history. Making it an inconvenience and hard to express the art and talent of hard working Artists/Musicians/Thespians is an outrage and completely unacceptable! Enough to move out of this shit hole city, and away from all of the corrupt and dirty politicians that have always run it. Good luck with the tourists if they come here and have nothing to do but look at how much of an overpriced shit hole city Chicago is!
3741. Oronde Jenkins | May 13, 2008 at 7:29 am
Passing an ordinance like this will kill the Chicago music scene.
3742. Nate Rozgo | May 13, 2008 at 7:30 am
This ordinance would absolutely suck the life out of the Chicago music scene! I’ve already seen enough great venues vanish due to aggressive zoning or licensing restrictions – to cripple the ones that are left with this ordinance would be unconscionable.
3743. Frank Bradley | May 13, 2008 at 7:30 am
What are they trying to do? Enforce the laws we currently have in place and tragedies shouldn’t happen. This ordinance is overboard.
3744. Lydz | May 13, 2008 at 7:30 am
It’s Ridiculous!
Chicago is THE city of little band! And the little one because some day big! What’s this probleme? You want eliminated all creativity of Chicago! Please it’s horrible!
Without the “little” there is no “big.”!!! So don’t do that! Every people have the right to become something in the world! And it’s only idiot people who can’t understand that! So Prouve me than chicago counsil are not!
3745. Rachael | May 13, 2008 at 7:32 am
This is rediculous. It better not pass. Vote NO on the ordinance!
3746. Andrea Jovan | May 13, 2008 at 7:34 am
I am a musician in Chicago, working here for several years in the underground scene.
But lets remember that this ordinance will not only crush the small and unsanctioned venues that present innovative music, but also devastate the THEATER, DANCE, PERFORMANCE ART, and GALLERY scenes as well.
Musicians, actors, dancers, designers, visual artists, directors, and performance artists are all trying to make a living in this great arts city.
For some reason, instead of expounding on the virtues of this, the city leaders try to squash it, especially the small stuff, that in many ways is the most vibrant and innovative reason that artists come to this city in the first place.
WHY IS THIS???
3747. Elaine | May 13, 2008 at 7:34 am
Way to keep your eye on the ball about what’s important. Please let’s not worry about those school killings or poverty—-let’s worry about taxing artists for doing something beautiful for the city. Way to go.
3748. Mike Carden | May 13, 2008 at 7:34 am
We need to stop this
3749. Aaron | May 13, 2008 at 7:35 am
Its disappointing to hear that this could happen. If it gets harder to have such shows at venues/bars/etc, it’s going to get harder to maintain our identity as a city. Music and arts is one of the major perks living in and around the city.
3750. Kevin | May 13, 2008 at 7:36 am
I am against this ordinance. Many independent artists come to Chicago because there are so many small venues. Adding tremendous costs and bureacracy will deter this from haappening.
3751. Ron Holzner | May 13, 2008 at 7:36 am
Why don’t you just BAN Music altogether!!! This will kill all the new bands,young musicians trying to get a start, underground music and arts that make this City so diverse and great….
3752. Roman Brzozowski | May 13, 2008 at 7:37 am
Please don’t pass this rediculous ordinance!
3753. Brian K | May 13, 2008 at 7:38 am
As a resident of Chicago I strongly oppose this ordinance and call on the city council to VOTE IT DOWN.
3754. Joel West | May 13, 2008 at 7:40 am
Some local Chicago musicians live and support themselves as full time musicians, and we need the smaller venues to survive. We also have the right to spread the word of our music through self-promotion.
On top of that, the public appreciates the hard-working musicians who are putting out quality music and show-casing a quality performance.
Even many national touring acts depend on these venues that hold only 1 or 2 hundred people.
Please do not ruin the local Chicago music scene by putting it’s dedicated performers out of business.
3755. Heidi | May 13, 2008 at 7:40 am
Originality is what makes Chicago a remarkable city. Vote NO on this ordinance.
3756. Steve Million | May 13, 2008 at 7:41 am
Look, I am a professional musician and have been in this business for thirty years. I currently am working 5 nights a week downtown at a steady gig playing piano in a small group. This idea of making it more difficult and costly to have downtown events is so wrong not just for me, but for all of my colleagues in the arts. When you walk around downtown there is so much going on from street events to gigs like mine to theatre. Please do not pass this bill as it will make the small art promoter – most likely a musician like myself – a relic of a brighter past. You city councilmen need to check out what is actually happening in this city – if you did then this idea would fade back into whatever corporations dream it escaped from.
3757. Dave Simko | May 13, 2008 at 7:42 am
I understand the need to make sure venues are “safe” places to have concerts, but there needs to be another way of going about this.
3758. John Weaver | May 13, 2008 at 7:43 am
Hey, if you want to make more money, tax Cubs fans. They seem good for the dough – anyone who can afford $6 beers can chip in to the “Daley Retirement Fund”.
Peace
3759. Brian Kustwin | May 13, 2008 at 7:43 am
In a democracy, the government is suppose to be a representation of the people’s voices. The voices have spoken up and said we do not want this ordinance in Chicago. It is now the job of the City Council to represent it’s constituents and vote against this ordinance.
3760. Andrew Armstrong | May 13, 2008 at 7:44 am
This proposed ordinance is ill-conceived and unnecessarily squander a good portion of Chicago’s cultural capital. I implore the City Council to reconsider the wisdom of enacting it.
3761. Teresa | May 13, 2008 at 7:46 am
How ridiculous! I’ll pass this on.
3762. Barbara | May 13, 2008 at 7:46 am
VOTE IT DOWN!!! I love Chicago for it’s small venues! This would be a disaster!!! Our underground culture is what makes Chicago so amazing!
3763. John Weaver | May 13, 2008 at 7:46 am
If you want to make more money, tax Cubs fans. They seem good for the dough – anyone who can afford multiple $6 beers can surely chip in a few more…
3764. Wayne | May 13, 2008 at 7:46 am
Though I’m not a Chicago resident, When I do go there it’s to see bands performing at places like The Empty Bottle, The Hideout and Schubas. Please don’t destroy one of the best things about this wonderful city!
3765. jim | May 13, 2008 at 7:47 am
this is the lamest ordinance since the foie gras ban. if this passes i’m moving.
3766. Susan Miller | May 13, 2008 at 7:47 am
An ordinance that protects small businesses, artists, and the public from unscrupulous promoters is worth considering. This legislation makes presenting art and music very expensive — thus inhibiting the very thing that the legislature should be protecting, and the City of Chicago should be promoting. Clearly the legislators considering this do not spend any time in Chicago’s nieghborhoods, to see the wealth of cultural creativity that is presented to us at a fraction of the cost of this legislation.
Is revenue for the City the motive here? Then a much better approach would be to promote these small venues. Help make art and music more profitable for the small business owner, and tax them on thier sales.
3767. Michael W | May 13, 2008 at 7:47 am
i do not believe if there were a billion posts here that it would have any leverage in the appeal of this ordinance. regardless, might as well try, right?
3768. Jessica Rask | May 13, 2008 at 7:47 am
Just say No! As a small business owner and self-employed woman in Chicago, I find it offensive that the city should make things even more difficult for those trying to follow their own paths. It is an absurd idea to make it so difficult for people to support themselves while they are, concurrently, creating the culture of this city we all hold so dear.
3769. Scott Sandy | May 13, 2008 at 7:47 am
This seems completely unnecessary & pointless. It won’t accomplish anything except reducing the number of shows, which is hardly a good thing. Actually it’s probably the worst thing ever.
scott
3770. alexandria | May 13, 2008 at 7:48 am
i don’t even live in chicago, i live in atlanta, but i think this is wrong!
3771. Amy Martin | May 13, 2008 at 7:49 am
Chicago needs grassroots theater, music…all performance!!…to remain a creative hotbed.
It is VITAL to our city’s economy!!!
Vote a resounding “NO!!!” to promoters liscensing on May 14th!!
3772. Conway McLean | May 13, 2008 at 7:50 am
Vote this proposal down. This is unfair, unjust, and just another move by a questionably motivated city government.
3773. James H. Hall Jr. | May 13, 2008 at 7:50 am
This legislation, if passed, will effectively grind Chicago’s local music scene into the ground and discourage many national, local and regional artists from performing in our fair city. Many venues with a proven track record of safe shows will lose increasingly large amounts of revenue. While the goal of discouraging underground and dangerous events is laudable, this legislation, in it’s present form is wrong headed and over broad. Do not pass this into law. Thank you.
3774. robert burg | May 13, 2008 at 7:51 am
no don’t ban this
3775. Gregory Lucchesi | May 13, 2008 at 7:52 am
This is a bad move for Chicago. I visit from Milwaukee several times a year. I eat in your restaurants, drink in your bars, and stay in your hotels when I come down for shows.
If top-notch venues like The Empty Bottle and Schuba’s are forced to comply with this draconian scheme, Chicago will lose visitors and business will lose revenue.
BAD FOR EVERYONE!!!
3776. Kerri Vaile | May 13, 2008 at 7:52 am
Chicago is a city for fine arts, big and small companies, jigs, businesses, you name it. Please vote NO. Chicago would not be the same.
3777. Elizabeth Mensah | May 13, 2008 at 7:53 am
This seems like a hasty way to take care of a problem that is caused by SOME, not all, of the music promoters in Chicago. It would so much better to work towards a solution that benefits all parties. Don’t be hasty, City Council!
3778. Melissa K | May 13, 2008 at 7:54 am
Yet another ridiculous way for the city to try and generate income. This will ruin the nightlife in Chicago as we know it. Music scene? It will be nonexistant. Vote it down!
3779. Mark Kelly | May 13, 2008 at 7:56 am
this should not be passed! keep Chicago culture going!
3780. Molly Each | May 13, 2008 at 7:56 am
Please do not pass this ordinance. Please.
3781. Corey | May 13, 2008 at 7:57 am
This is wrong. Do not pass this law.
3782. Ripley Caine | May 13, 2008 at 7:57 am
Being a performer, booking agent, promoter and more, this is completely unacceptable!
Seriously, what will really be gained by this?
Please don’t allow this to happen!
It will effect more than one can imagine.
3783. Patrick Horton | May 13, 2008 at 7:57 am
Since our effort to host the Columbian Exhibition, Chicago has suffered from a perception that we were not the cultural equivalent to other large cities around the world. That was much of the reason we so deeply wanted to host the world’s fair, to demonstrate that as a misconception.
Now we want to host the Olympics? Please! 115 years later and we’re starting to regress. How can we consider ourselves a “world-class” city when we stifle all young performers? Venues under 500 seat capacity are where young artists burgeon. We might as well call ourselves the “22nd City” at this rate.
3784. Jae | May 13, 2008 at 7:57 am
Very much opposed to this proposal.
3785. Ken Ejka | May 13, 2008 at 7:57 am
Smaller venues by in large are better to see a concert. I tend to only go to shows if they are in a more intimate setting. I’m sure many feel this way. Please vote NO.
3786. Brendan | May 13, 2008 at 7:58 am
I like my musi. Please don’t pass this ordinance
3787. mariana | May 13, 2008 at 7:58 am
teens rely on music. it’s creativity, it’s an outlet.
why are you cutting them off? this is stupid.
3788. Kayleigh MacAdams | May 13, 2008 at 8:01 am
Signed in opposition to this ordinance.
3789. Ericka Fields | May 13, 2008 at 8:01 am
As someone who’s passionate about Chicago and its incredible music and cultural scene I see this ordinance effectually relegating this vibrant city to the dark ages.
3790. Rachel Kelber | May 13, 2008 at 8:02 am
This is horrendous. The City of Chicago boasts about its music scene and some of these venues are know nationwide for featuring amazing up and coming artists. Now, because of a lawsuit, they want to destroy all of that. It is impossible to prevent all lawsuits without infringing on residents and community members’ rights. There were rules in place that should have prevented the E3 disaster, but they were not followed. More rules would not have prevented the tragedy. Music venues already have rules and regulations to prevent these type of events and they have followed them successfully. PLEASE DO NOT PASS THIS ORDINANCE!!!
3791. Angee Lennard | May 13, 2008 at 8:02 am
Please don’t pass this law. Requiring such an array of things will eliminate many talented people from being able to both create the music they create, and have people hear it, as well as prevent many talented “event coordinators” from bringing great local music to the community.
3792. Liz Payne | May 13, 2008 at 8:02 am
We cannot let this happen! This would injure the livelihood of myself and many of my friends.
3793. Kristof | May 13, 2008 at 8:03 am
This is ridiculous. As a musician it is hard enuogh finanically, without burdens such as this.
Stop stealing our money, there are alot of different things in this world you could be cracking down on, this should not be one of them
-Kristof
3794. Joe D. | May 13, 2008 at 8:04 am
Ald. Reilly,
As my Alderman, I urge you to vote against this ordinance. Small music venues are part of what makes Chicago so special. There must be a better way to make all of us safe, yet protect the culture that is so important to your constituents. You have done great work in the community over your short time as Alderman, I hope you once again show why we all voted for you.
3795. Joshua | May 13, 2008 at 8:04 am
I think it is ridiculous, before you know it prohibition will be back in affect. Word’s can not describe how ill this make’s me. I mean they just keep taking away are freedom’s little by little. Is this not america is this not the land of oportunity. How will small musician ever become heard? Chicago let your voice be heard.
3796. Lauren | May 13, 2008 at 8:04 am
Passing this law will only show the world that Chicago cares more about money than about its culture and arts scene. The diversity in Chicago’s culture will be greatly stifled if this law is passed. People who wouldn’t otherwise have had a chance to have their voice heard will be silenced…and that may be the greatest ill-doing of them all.
3797. Craig Thompson | May 13, 2008 at 8:04 am
The arts opportunities that Chicago offers would be terribly compromised by this ordinance.
3798. elena kenney | May 13, 2008 at 8:05 am
the arts in chicago is one of the main reasons to live here. please do not make it any more difficult for small vent coordinators to bring the arts to our streets. once again it will be a policy that tears down smaller endeavors and allows corporate events to swallow the specialized eye.
please understand that we need smaller groups that are aware of both underground art and that function outside mass media in order to open peoples eyes to the broad range of amazing artists in our city as well as internationally.
thank you
3799. Pete Berenc | May 13, 2008 at 8:05 am
Unacceptable.
3800. Libby Reed | May 13, 2008 at 8:05 am
Please stop the Promoter Ordinance. I value this city and all of it’s lively events….they are an inextricable aspect of it’s culture and vibrancy.
Please stop this ordinance from passing!
3801. Bill Teitelbaum | May 13, 2008 at 8:06 am
The proposed ordnance is a nice, fat greasy porkchop for a handfull of good-buddy insurance brokers, and an evasion of the City’s responsibility to enforce perfectly adequate regulations that are already in place. Its potential impact on hundreds of small, innovative venues will be a disaster for Chicago, but perfectly consistent with this town’s reputation for eating its young.
3802. Dawn Edfors | May 13, 2008 at 8:07 am
Please don’t pass this ordinance.
3803. Rachel Kelber | May 13, 2008 at 8:07 am
After writing a long comment, the server failed. So – the abridged version – to pass an ordinance in order to avoid future lawsuits is ridiculous. The rules and regulations in place, when followed, are sufficient. Many of çhicago’s venues are known nationally and have followed the existing rules successfully. The safety at their shows have been remarkable. Better enforcement of the existing rules at venues that may be noncompliant would much more effective. PLEASE DO NOT PASS THIS ORDINANCE!
3804. Jared Antonyzyn | May 13, 2008 at 8:07 am
The local music scene is the main reason I am a resident of the City of Chicago for the past 10 years. If this ridiculous ordinance is passed, my family and I are leaving the city. –simple as that.
3805. Candace Hall | May 13, 2008 at 8:07 am
What this city needs is LESS bureaucracy! It is killing the last few things that are good about Chicago! City Hall needs to stop wasting time thinking up new regulations and fees, and start doing something positive to encourage talent to thrive here.
3806. dan p | May 13, 2008 at 8:08 am
There are too many good local shows (music, comedy, theater…etc) that wouldn’t be able to go on.
3807. Amy Mayfield | May 13, 2008 at 8:08 am
Please don’t pass this ordinance. Chicago has a great reputation for small, intimate and amazing venues. This would throw all the “mom and pop” places out of business.
3808. David Julson-Rieley | May 13, 2008 at 8:09 am
Please don’t make it harder to produce music. There are enough hurdles as it is.
3809. E. Franco | May 13, 2008 at 8:09 am
DO NOT PASS this Ordinance!!
3810. Paul Stephani | May 13, 2008 at 8:10 am
This ordinance is ridiculous!!! PLEASE DO NOT PASS!!!! Please proctect my artistry.
3811. Brittany Pacha | May 13, 2008 at 8:10 am
wow, this proposal is ridiculous.
DO NOT let this pass Chicago!!
3812. Mel M Morelli | May 13, 2008 at 8:10 am
Please do not make this ordinance a reality. Rockabilly and a lot of other small independant music scenes rely on small venues and even self promotion to survive. Don’t kill all the great music in Chicago. It is what makes our city a great place to live. Don’t make our city a place where only the big people and people who put on 500 plus shows can get heard. There is a lot of wonderful music out there. Don’t make it impossible to hear it. Thanks for listening.
3813. Karl Perteet | May 13, 2008 at 8:10 am
This ordinance is a bad idea. It is a knee jerk reaction to the E2 situation and will not be a definitive solution; it will only hurt the smaller venues and promoters that really supply the lifeblood for so many entertainers in this city and to generate income for the city to mismange. What a great way to ensure that the arts and entertainment scene in this great city disappears…. New York, anyone ? How dumb.
3814. sharlet webb | May 13, 2008 at 8:11 am
Stop the promoters ordinance! This is the livelyhood of too many people in the arts and entertainment industry.
3815. Debra Steele | May 13, 2008 at 8:12 am
The City of Chicago should be ashamed of itself for this ‘events promoters’ ordinance. No other city in the mid-west maintains such a lively music culture. Please do not put an end to one of our greatest gifts as a city.
3816. Jaclyn Jackson | May 13, 2008 at 8:12 am
Please do not pass this ordinance. Chicago is a great city to go to for small venues. Do not take that away.
3817. Marguerite Horberg | May 13, 2008 at 8:13 am
As part of the group who founded the League Of Live Music Venues, (a predecessor of sorts to the CMC), we were a group that included: HotHouse, metro, schubas Buddy Guy’s Jam, the hideout,Martyr’s and House of blues to name a few. we were formed in the wake of E2 after many of our venues were troubled by licensing demands that were inconsistent. It was clear that a new ordinance was being drafted to address the E2 issue that had an irresponsible set of club owners and promoters operating in bad judgement.
As I read this today, this bill would also affect caterers, wedding planners,universities, organizations hosting fundraisers,corporate and trade show groups hosting after hour events, film festivals holding wrap parties or kick off galas. etc.
At HotHouse about a third of our programs were hosted by entities that would now fall into this new category. This group of promoters would include the City, host of The world music festival, events associated with the Chicago Jazz Fest, programs we co-sponsored with various consulates, programs we co-produced with places like the Puerto Rican Cultural center,Yound Chicago Authors, The Guild Complex, or Columbia College, or the Public Square or The Cambodian Association of Illinois. While some groups can take on the administrative costs and navigate the application and licensing process in a timely fashion, it will prove undoubtedly untenable to others.
With space at a premium and the corporate monopoly and consolidation of culture increasingly positioned to drive all but the most well-endowed players from the market, this is an onerous and ominous ordinance that should be resoundingly protested.
I believe the key is to forge a broad base alliance with all the players in the entertainment and special events industry and not think narrowly when looking for allies on this issue. I am unclear who is taking a leadership role in this fight but given the wide net approach of the language in the ordinance it would appear that there are many natural allies that could be pressed into a unified position to pressure significant changes that would be reasonable.
I know that the Department of Cultural Affairs, The Department of Tourism and The Mayors Office Of Special Events are sensitive to the concerns that have been raised in other postings they would be and a good place to start in terms of getting some productive meetings scheduled.
Perhaps the CMC can start the ball rolling and see who would like to get involved with the details of re-working the ordinance by representing various actors in the Chicago events community.
3818. Jon Davenport | May 13, 2008 at 8:13 am
This should have never even been thought of as an ordinance in the first place, only one who hates music and its culture could have thought of such a horrible Idea
3819. John | May 13, 2008 at 8:14 am
I too am against the ordinance!
3820. Dan Hickey | May 13, 2008 at 8:14 am
This is ridiculous. No need for the ordinance. Simple as that.
3821. Jerome | May 13, 2008 at 8:14 am
wtf? what the hell are they trying to do to our city? they are popping up condominiums all over town and trying to drive all the culture and ethnicity out of the city. now they wanna go and do this? the hell with this garbage.
save chicago!!!!
3822. Jacob Miller | May 13, 2008 at 8:14 am
That is just completely ridiculous. Why would you put such a burden on people when we people already have hard enough time trying to pay for high gas prices and high costs of living. If it does happen, Chicago will become a really dull place, which would be a shame.
3823. Marina Chapman | May 13, 2008 at 8:15 am
I completely oppose this ordinance.
3824. Erik Kraft | May 13, 2008 at 8:15 am
This sounds like an extremely terrible idea. I vote and I oppose this ordinance.
3825. Aubrey | May 13, 2008 at 8:15 am
This ordinance simply cannot happen! What will happen to our music. To our musicians.
Right now the biggest problem I have is trying to decide which show to go to on any given night…I like having to make that decision and this ordinance will take away that and so much more that this city has to offer musically and artistically!
3826. Amanda Cohen | May 13, 2008 at 8:15 am
This isn’t just about concerts. Chicago’s many storefront theaters are on shoestring budgets (when they can afford anything as extravagant as shoe strings). Requiring another expensive license (up there with the PPA license required for every venue) will put a lot of places under. When only out of town shows play here, only out-of-towners will see them, and original theater in Chicago will dry up.
3827. Donald Gecewicz | May 13, 2008 at 8:16 am
Aside from the burden on itinerant companies and small organizations, this ordinance is a major hit for smaller bars, theaters, and venues. And, as always, it’s unclear what is being resolved by this law. Everyone is already required to get the public place of amusement/performance license. (We endured that wave of shutdowns a couple of years ago.) So who stands to make money off this draft law? Certainly not arts organizations.
Donald Gecewicz
3828. Brent Larson | May 13, 2008 at 8:16 am
Is this something we want blemishing the rich history of arts and music in Chicago? Please vote this thing down.
3829. Thomas J. Keegan | May 13, 2008 at 8:16 am
DONT DO THIS. CHICAGO LOVES MUSIC. YOU CANT TAKE IT AWAY.
3830. Craig S. | May 13, 2008 at 8:16 am
If this is anything like the CTA’s bitching, it won’t happen. But then again, I’ve heard of crazier ordinances being passed.
3831. Phil | May 13, 2008 at 8:17 am
Making more accountability in the system is good, but this approach is wrong.
Ordinances should focus on real problems and real offenders – not small players who instill creativity, generate revenue and drive culture for the city. This simply looks like an ordinance designed to ensure that the city gets its fair share of the tax pie. The city made weak attempts at best to police limits of people in clubs after E2 and other catastrophes. It needs to do better this time.
3832. Benjamin Gillespie | May 13, 2008 at 8:17 am
VOTE IT DOWN!!! VOTE IT DOWN!!! VOTE IT DOWN!!! VOTE IT DOWN!!! VOTE IT DOWN!!! VOTE IT DOWN!!! VOTE IT DOWN!!! VOTE IT DOWN!!! VOTE IT DOWN!!! VOTE IT DOWN!!! VOTE IT DOWN!!! VOTE IT DOWN!!! VOTE IT DOWN!!! VOTE IT DOWN!!!
3833. John Haracz | May 13, 2008 at 8:17 am
Live music has always been a strong part of Chicago history, from the tiny blues bars to the Rolling Stones at Soldier Field. As a musician who has been playing the smaller venues of Chicago for years, please do not pass this ordinace without looking into the negative effects this will have.
3834. Victoria Roe | May 13, 2008 at 8:17 am
In a city as culturally diverse as chicago it’s important to keep the smaller venues for the “little guys”. So much success is credited towards small venues. This law would be putting an unnecessary barrier between the musicians in chicago and their fans.
3835. Leonard | May 13, 2008 at 8:18 am
You can’t pass a law based on the ignorance of a few people. E2 was a horrible event, but if the laws that are already in place were enforced we wouldn’t need to talk about this. Clubs like Double Door, Elbo Room, Metro, and Schubas have shaped and molded the night life and culture of this city. Passing this law would kill all creative movements, and silence the voices of people that want and need to be heard.
3836. Chris Palmer | May 13, 2008 at 8:18 am
What are the advantages to this ordinance? I can’t imagine they outweigh the benefits brought forth by Chicago’s independent art/music/literary scene. Our city has thrived upon its unique ability to draw diverse crowds and opposing views in order to create a beautiful commune that this ordinance will easily tear apart.
Those in “charge” often forget, that in trying economic times, we need these creative outlets as well cost effective outings. Do they also forget people have given them the ability to write and vote upon ordinances for our alleged well being? Show me the benefits!
This ordinance effects the young and the old alike. We can agree that pillaging our pockets does no one any good.
3837. wanda victores | May 13, 2008 at 8:18 am
It is a shame that the City of Chicago would consider an ordinance that would severely impair the local theater and live music venues. Had this happened 50 years ago, Chicago would not have been known as the home of jazz or blues. Our alderman need the fore site to see the damage this ordinance could cause to the City’s reputation for being a cultural center of live theatre and music.
3838. Timmy Samuel | May 13, 2008 at 8:18 am
The ordinance as proposed is an ill-conceived, knee-jerk reaction to the (not so) recent E2 tragedy, among other things. As has been stated in earlier comments, that disaster occurred because existing ordinances were ignored.
Will this proposed ordinance stop nefarious characters from hosting unsafe, illegal events? No. It will have zero impact on those people and events. They will continue unhindered. Will this ordinance put a financial stranglehold, wrapped in red tape, on independent music, theatre, and art in this city? Absolutely. It is almost as if the city is actively seeking to become hostile to the creative community. It already does little to encourage a very vibrant scene, which thrives, within the boundaries of legality, in spite of the Powers that Be in this city failing to recognize it’s viability.
I urge City Council to table this poorly-conceived piece of legislation. Talk with the venues, patrons, and the artists. Find out what the REAL problem is (I’ll save you the trouble – it’s lack of enforcement!). Address that instead of writing harmful ordinances.
3839. Marke Lester | May 13, 2008 at 8:18 am
This ordinance is akin to the kneejerk reaction by the FAA after 9/11, fighting “terrorism” by enacting random full searches and imposing carryon restrictions. Again, punishing the patron for what was fault of the service provider. It hasn’t made our airports more secure and it’s just a bigger inconvenience on the traveler, costing the people time and money. This ordinance has to be at least rewritten if not fully repealed. Let’s keep Chicago THE home of great original music and not lose all the good bands to more music-friendly cities. Thank you.
3840. Casey | May 13, 2008 at 8:18 am
Leave the musicians alone, it’s hard enough to make a living. Quit messing with the music,
Music is my life!
Kill the music, you may as well kill us too.
KING CASEY BAND
CHICAGO’s ROCK
http://www.myspace.com/kingcaseyband
3841. Casey Morgan | May 13, 2008 at 8:19 am
wtf. this is crazy. how can this actually happen?
3842. Mike Dombrosky | May 13, 2008 at 8:19 am
Any ordinance that could potentially stifle the music scene in Chicago is the wrong idea!
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3844. Morgan Postle | May 13, 2008 at 8:20 am
I grew up in Chicago, more specifically the music scene. I would do anything to fight for it.
3845. Erica Morales | May 13, 2008 at 8:20 am
This is absurd!!! Why would you have larger promoters exempt. There are way too many small bands out there that are just trying to make a nickel. They don’t have the $500-$2000 to get a stupid license to legally be able to play. I can’t believe this is even an issue!!! This gets me sooooooooo angry! Livid! The word is livid! In a city that is so known for the small bars with live music, legislation like this will paralyze these establishments and cause more problems than it is trying to alleviate. This government needs to find some other struggling Americans to bully!
3846. Adam Lavey | May 13, 2008 at 8:22 am
Small guy getting spit on again. Work on kids killing kids, not the arts scene and its cottage industry.
3847. Nick Gamroth | May 13, 2008 at 8:22 am
I don’t like this.
3848. Brent Davidson | May 13, 2008 at 8:22 am
Not in my name
3849. Jeremy Sheffield | May 13, 2008 at 8:22 am
This ordinance is the equivalent of inviting Walmart in to replace our small neighborhood stores. Is that next?? Support small! Support neighborhood venues and their rights!
3850. Sharon Richmond | May 13, 2008 at 8:23 am
The diverse entertainment that you find in Chicago is unbeat. You can find Blues, gospel rock , rap, opera & alternative music throughout our city on any given night. Most of these are not in the larger venues. They are in the smaller more authentic places (which is noticebly becoming harder to find). Not everyone can even afford to come into downtown Chicago for entertainment because of all of the cost attached to it. You are taking away the culture and flavor that keeps the city thriving. We can not afford to loose this outlet because of the high fees that will be tagged on to an event. It’s really unfortunate if this ordinance is passed.
3851. Greg Spalding | May 13, 2008 at 8:23 am
I absolutely think this ordinance is absurd. Chicago has provided many opportunities for me and others in music over the years and to pass this would be terrible. It would undermine everyone who has built a career and a way of life in music in this city.
3852. Amanda | May 13, 2008 at 8:24 am
This is crazy! I hope it doesnt pass because then it will mess up the whole culture of Chicago
3853. Tim Haldeman | May 13, 2008 at 8:24 am
The underground music and theater scene in Chicago is one of the best, if not THE best in the world! It is a huge part of what makes the city special, and why so many amazing artistist live here and come through here. If this legislation is passed, so many of us artistis, already struggling to find places to perform and make a buck, will have a much more difficult time. This legislation is UNFAIR, UNNECESSARY, AND DOWNRIGHT SENSELESS!!! THIS COULD RUIN THE MOST BEAUTIFUL THING ABOUT CHICAGO. PLEASE VOTE NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!
3854. Brad Farberman | May 13, 2008 at 8:24 am
This would be a huge blow to independent and DIY artists in all genres. Creative and innovative music is not about money, and hopefully never will be.
The music needs to go on. And it will, even if this bill passes. But we don’t need any more obstacles in our way, thank you.
The city of Chicago should be funding creative artists. Not taking away their ability to perform.
Brad Farberman, NYC
3855. Peter | May 13, 2008 at 8:24 am
Artists aren’t criminals.
The City of Chicago feels they need to protect us from ourselves after E2, but this is not the solution.
Quit bending us over Chicago. There’s only so much we can take.
3856. Dominic Pezen | May 13, 2008 at 8:25 am
Another example of how out of touch and self serving government is. I strongly erg the CMC to work with the city and revise any ordnance that could diminish small business.
We aught to be careful before biting the hand that us.
3857. Elle Liamson | May 13, 2008 at 8:26 am
My biggest concern is how will effect nonprofit events that barely squeak by as it is. I host many benefit concerts and these proposed fees will literally take away money from deserving charities and individuals in need. And, I really don’t see the point or benefit – so what if the promoter is fingerprinted, how is that going to make the concert run any better??? This is a horrendous concept and sure hope the bill does not pass.
3858. Christy Freeman | May 13, 2008 at 8:26 am
I just want to put my name down…this is totally whacked!
3859. Robert Sharp | May 13, 2008 at 8:26 am
This shit is UNACCEPTABLE. IT IS ABSURD.
3860. Wade Vonasek | May 13, 2008 at 8:27 am
The city should be promoting the arts, not trying to kill them.
3861. Eleanor Sharp | May 13, 2008 at 8:27 am
I strongly disagree with this bill.
3862. Paul Foreman | May 13, 2008 at 8:27 am
This ordinance is insulting. It’s am embarrassment to the city that we even have to address it. Let’s put this matter to rest as quickly as possible.
3863. Brad Walseth | May 13, 2008 at 8:29 am
I despair for the future of music in Chicago. As someone struggling to keep my music promotion website JazzChicago.net alive against taxes, traffic, parking, gas prices and more, this would simply be the last nail and would kill my small business.
3864. Daniel Moskal | May 13, 2008 at 8:29 am
This is an unnecessary ordinance. The do-it-yourself ethic has always been the centerpiece of Chicago culture, not the slick shows brought in from other parts of the country.
I suspect this is being pushed through by the big promotion companies to eliminate the competition. I don’t believe safety is the main motivation. It should be noted that the pyrotechnics that caused 100 deaths in the The Station fire in Rhode Island were provided by a professional promoter.
3865. JLB | May 13, 2008 at 8:29 am
I agree. Stop the promoter’s ordinance. One of the lovely things about Chicago’s great neighborhoods is the easy access to great music at an affordable price for a family. Why take this asset away from the highest taxpayers in America? so we can stand in a line overnight for hanna montana tickets at Allstate for $500 each?
3866. David Dobson | May 13, 2008 at 8:29 am
When I was younger I use to go to night clubs all the time. Passing this would take away the experience of todays younger people discovering the different types of music. Some people just don’t have the money to go to the big venues. Once again its goverment over governing.
3867. Melania Lancy | May 13, 2008 at 8:30 am
This is just more overly beauractic, fine-inducing headaches that is less likely to protect and serve artists and their patrons, and more likely to generate money for the city. Basically the city wants to cut down on underground promoters who are illegally capitalizing on the arts scene by not acquiring proper the licenses, etc. This ordinance penalizes the already law abiding venues/companies/bands, etc. by making the process more expensive and complicated for them to function.
If anything the City should put the money it collects from licensing back into the arts community in the form of grants for young artists who have the artistic material to share yet not the monetary means to promote it.
3868. Mike Ter Louw | May 13, 2008 at 8:30 am
Please don’t water down our culture!
3869. Rebekah Reyes | May 13, 2008 at 8:30 am
they really need to reconsider this. it just seems way too much. what would chicago be without its music scene?
this is complete bull.
3870. Michael Gilman | May 13, 2008 at 8:30 am
As a student just graduating from Chicago’s Columbia College with a degree in Music Business, it is saddening to hear that the city would set such strict regulations for promoters and arts affiliated parties. I’m in a band and I’m also an aspiring entrepreneur. Now my future in music lies in the hands of a bunch of old fuss pots, who I would assume have very little if any personal experience with the performing arts . What a waste.
3871. David Arquilla Ari Properties | May 13, 2008 at 8:31 am
This is absurd. Just another example of the Socialist Repupblic of Chicago trying to invent a new tax, that ultimately will hurt Chicago’s revenue!!
3872. Abby G. | May 13, 2008 at 8:31 am
Bogus.
3873. Jackie Scott | May 13, 2008 at 8:31 am
Chicago has always been a mecca for the blues for those of us east of the Mississippi. Having been presisent of a blues society, we have drawn from the vast pool of talent that has been developed and nutured in Chicago. Not only do we attend your big festivals, we attend and enjoy the smaller shows that are presented in the not so main stream of Chicago. We spend our money in your hotels, restuarants, etc. and have enjoyed doing so over the years.
The proposals that are going forth to the city counsel are ridiculous and are on the border line of seemingly trying to push the small club owners and promoters out of business. I’m sure the city could use the extra money but make it off venues like the House of Blues and such and not off the backs of the struggling club owners, small time promoters and local talent who work hard for the tourist and music lovers that come to Chicago to partake of the rich culture of your city.
This type of action, if passed, will surely but a black eye on the city of Chicago and it’s music industry. And what’s with the finger prints??? Are you looking for criminals??? Shame on you Chicago. There are plenty of cities around the country that respect and treat their local artist and the rich history and traditions that they try to keep alive, with repect.
We can find another city to spend our money and pay tribiute to the local musicians, artist, promoters and club owners who respect their own enough to work with them and not against them. It won’t be Chicago but it Chicago won’t be Chicago either after the city puts the squeeze on the small folks !!!!
3874. Ann | May 13, 2008 at 8:31 am
Please don’t pass this ordinance. If the venues are covered, why in the world do the artists have to be? This ordinance will destroy yet another aspect of Chicago’s unique culture. At this rate, we will soon be just another generic “big box” town. Please don’t step on our local music scene.
Thanks
3875. John Erler | May 13, 2008 at 8:31 am
We’ve seen our boutique coffee shops, restaurants, and retail stores fall pray to large banks, cell phone stores, and Starbucks. Now we are being threatened by an ordinance that will affect the very premise of Chicago’s creative construct. Don’t get me wrong. People need to be safe, but the scale of this ordinance is overkill for many of Chicago’s popular small venues and theaters. Furthermore, the issue is highly exaggerated. Don’t we have greater problems to deal with in this city? Please prevent the continued over sterilization, spend more time on real issues, and vote against this ordinance. Thank you.
3876. Jon Records | May 13, 2008 at 8:32 am
Please don’t approve this ridiculous ordinance.
And cancel my parking tickets.
3877. Nick Nummerdor | May 13, 2008 at 8:32 am
This is terrible, chicago should be doing more to support these artists who work hard in our community rather then punish them with outrageous fines and restrictions. I cant believe this is even being voted on.
3878. vincent presley | May 13, 2008 at 8:32 am
totally clueless. some pathetic scared white republican had to have came up with this one after she saw a gwar poster or something. these are rock shows not terrorist meetings. it’s already becoming near impossible for smaller bands to tour because of the price of fuel. small venues and promoters need money to pay the bands not some retarded licenses that make no sense. $300,000.00 insurance? this is not the age of hair matal and pyro technics.
3879. Brian Staehlin | May 13, 2008 at 8:32 am
I love live music. Don’t make me move to another city.
3880. Brandy Clark | May 13, 2008 at 8:33 am
Without the culture + music, what would Chicago be? Not very enjoyable.
3881. Dave Szabo | May 13, 2008 at 8:33 am
Please do not make it harder for us to see live music in Chicago. The roots of live music goes so far back here with jazz and blues. We cannot afford to lose this culture and still stand up to be one of the Top cities in America.
3882. Brad Calderwood | May 13, 2008 at 8:33 am
Please, let’s enforce the ordinances that we already have and close the loopholes that allowed the E2 tragedy and not destroy the lush and vibrant music scene that is Chicago. This ordinance up for vote is too heavy handed. Please take some more time and consider the repercussions that this ordinance will create. Chicago’s music scene is a very important part of the cultural heart that this city is very fortunate to have. Do not put more red tape and bureaucracy in the way of the promoters desire to bring rich and diverse music here. The Alderman should notice that we, the voting tax payers, are watching and voting on how you lean towards decisions and poorly thought out ones such is blatently obvious in this draft proposal.
Brad
3883. Ethan R. | May 13, 2008 at 8:34 am
I can’t believe such a notion made it this far.
Goodness, I hate chicago politics
3884. John Garcia | May 13, 2008 at 8:34 am
Chicago owns a piece of music history. Let’s not prevent others from having the same opprtunity to perform in these venues where legends have played. It would be a shame to stop the legacy and move Chicago down and out of the music scene.
3885. Megan Milich | May 13, 2008 at 8:34 am
PLEASE do not ruin the diverse culture of music and theather in our city. By passing this, you will be putting a hault to the cultural scene as we know it in Chicago. This city is known all over the country as a “music city.” KEEP IT THAT WAY. Please vote AGAINST this ordinance. Thank you.
3886. Gabriel Hammer | May 13, 2008 at 8:34 am
Well this is a big slap in the face, who ever thought of this idea is hindering the careers of thousands of independent musicians. Like what if some one has a criminal record and turned their live around through music, that something to take into consideration. Performing is a substantial part of mine, and may other’s incomes. We must do every thing we can to stop this.
3887. Adam Sharani | May 13, 2008 at 8:34 am
I was just warming back up to Chicago. I had moved away a while back becuase I thought the City was becoming a cultural wasteland. Now I know it is.
3888. Brett Gilbert | May 13, 2008 at 8:35 am
Music and theater is what helped make chicago great. Please don’t force it out!
3889. Justin Damm | May 13, 2008 at 8:36 am
Please do not do this. Live music in small places is one of the main reasons I live in Chicago.
3890. chris kopinski | May 13, 2008 at 8:36 am
I strongly disagree with this oridance. This will cripple the creative and new music scene in chicago entirely. It will also cause more crime due to bands trying to get around this ordinance. We must stop this from being made real.
3891. David Waldman | May 13, 2008 at 8:36 am
As a resident of Chicago, involved in the music scene, I ask the city council not to pass the promoter’s ordinance.
3892. Jackie Scott | May 13, 2008 at 8:36 am
excuse obvious typos…typing while mad…..Just can’t believe they would honestly try to get this passed !!!
3893. Mai Sugimoto | May 13, 2008 at 8:37 am
I am strongly opposed to this ordinance.
chicago has a great and unique arts scene which attract so many people within and outside of the city.
please save the extraordinary arts culture of chicago.
3894. Ridiculous | May 13, 2008 at 8:37 am
I can’t believe that things keep getting worse. This is utterly ridiculous. It’s hard enough being a part of the music/art scene and now even more roadblocks. Why don’t you find something better to tag your restrictions and fines on?
3895. Andy | May 13, 2008 at 8:38 am
Damn, this is ridiculous. This ordinance needs to be stopped.
3896. Watto Watdawgs | May 13, 2008 at 8:38 am
Big business taking over the little guy, don’t stand for it.
3897. Brian Mazzaferri | May 13, 2008 at 8:38 am
I would like to add my voice to this chorus calling for the ordinance to be turned down. As a Chicago musician and proud owner of Chicago-based Sophic Records, we could not afford to put on shows and events with this ordinance in place. We are a small, independent record label.
Just last month, for instance, we organized an Earth Day benefit at the Double Door, to benefit the Chicagoland Bicycle Federation. Having to pay additional fees and get a promoters license would make events like that cost-prohibitive for us, and the real victim would be local groups and charities like the CBF.
So I would like to protest the new ordinance.
-Brian Mazzaferri
Singer/Songwriter/Philosopher
Sophic Records, Artist-in-Chief
http://www.brianmazzaferri.com
3898. A.G | May 13, 2008 at 8:38 am
Not a good idea. We are only going to hurt the future bands of Chicago.
3899. Dustin Brown | May 13, 2008 at 8:38 am
Do not pass this legislation.
3900. DPitre | May 13, 2008 at 8:38 am
This ordinance is absolutely ridiculous. It is yet another way that government is trying to homogenize our culture (which in turn will render it void of any) and to make our society “safer”. “Safer” = under the governments thumb at all times. I’ve played Chicago numerous times on tour and every time was a good time, and if this ordinance would have stopped almost every show I’ve played there
It is mind blowing the a city as rich in musical culture as Chicago would try and pass this ordinance, shame on the city for this.
-D Pitre
3901. Gregory Youra | May 13, 2008 at 8:38 am
The city has beome over regulated! Sooner than later people will realize that the city has lost its identity and its ability to draw residents and tourists. How about local news coverage? Why hasn’t the RedEye/Reader/New City picked up on this? How will it affect the city’s neighborhood summer festival scene?
3902. Monique Gilbert | May 13, 2008 at 8:39 am
If this ordinance were to pass, I would seriously consider moving out of Chicago. It would destroy one of the things I love most about this city.
3903. Jeremy | May 13, 2008 at 8:39 am
I’m absolutely opposed to this ordinance. Outrageous!!
3904. Tim Vonderloh | May 13, 2008 at 8:39 am
Chicago arts are what give the city much of its unique personality and appeal. Our local music is what draws many visitors to Chicago. This same music has created a legacy and respect for Chicago many locations in the world do not share. Do not let this be crushed by fear of the unknown.
3905. Kerri Storck | May 13, 2008 at 8:39 am
Please don’t pass this ordinance. As is, It will ruin one of the things that makes this city a great place to live. Artists need to be brought into the city and supported, not kicked to the curb.
3906. Catherine | May 13, 2008 at 8:40 am
don’t let this happen!
3907. Matthew Spitzmueller | May 13, 2008 at 8:40 am
This would ruin one of Chicago’s most valuable resources: its music!
3908. Robert Lorsbach | May 13, 2008 at 8:40 am
kids with guns, or kids with guitars? What is Chicago thinking?
3909. Autumn Notter | May 13, 2008 at 8:40 am
I’m sure the ordinance is well intentioned, but it requires some major revisions to elevate it from wholeheartedly ridiculous to passable.
3910. Alison Chesley | May 13, 2008 at 8:40 am
I moved to Chicago from Los Angeles 15 years ago to be a musician – I graduated from Northwestern and have been a part of the local rock scene since then.
Chicago is known across the country for having the most vital, cutting edge music scene. Central to this is the ability as an artist to be able to showcase your work at places that might not ordinarily book you. This often involves smaller venues or independent promoters. These people are what makes a music scene vital and fresh. We can’t survive and grow without it.
3911. Matt Springer | May 13, 2008 at 8:41 am
I lived most of my life in Chicago and had all of my formative cultural experiences there, from bands at Taste of Chicago to tiny shows at Double Door.
Please don’t let this amazing city lose its vibrant arts and music scene!
3912. KYLE TOBEY | May 13, 2008 at 8:41 am
I have been going to shows/concerts since i was 8 years old. putting restrictions on things does not make them safer. In fact, its the larger festival venue shows that have the most issues with safety. chicago has a thriving music scene because it gives so much ease to upcoming bands and gives them shows to play. if this ordinance had passed 10 years ago, the chicago music scene would already be dead.
3913. shayna | May 13, 2008 at 8:42 am
Please do not let the Chicago City Council pass this ordinance.
3914. Steve Roberts | May 13, 2008 at 8:42 am
This ordinance needs to be voted down. As worded now, it will eliminate or greatly hinder the ability for new or non-mainstream artists to get started.or further in their careers. The jazz group at the local coffee shop or club, chamber group at your wedding, indie or blues band at the local small club could all have insurmountable hurdles to jump.
3915. Megan | May 13, 2008 at 8:42 am
All this is going to do is hurt the promoters who are doing everything right in the first place. I wrote my Alderman demanding he vote no!
3916. Debby Lewis | May 13, 2008 at 8:42 am
This ordinance is beyond belief. Who’s pocket is being lined?? Affordable and plentiful music/arts in Chicago is an incredible draw both for audiences and performers. Why would the city shoot itself in the foot?
Vote NO.
3917. David | May 13, 2008 at 8:42 am
This ordinance smacks of what is standard from City Hall—blatant greed, corruption and incompetence. I’m beyond being tired of the self interests in local politics. We need a transparent government with new leadership soon. This ordinance will kill the creative spirit of this city and leave only larger corporate pablum to pass as “entertainment”. Ironic that a city government seeking to attract the upscale, entertainment-consuming condo dweller is too stupid to realize that a varied cultural tapestry is exactly what entices that same dweller. Again, we need new leadership!
3918. Jenn SavaRyan | May 13, 2008 at 8:42 am
There are so many other ways for Chicago to suck money from its residents. Why hurt the industry that is helping identify Chicago in recent years as an exciting theatre town. Hundreds of companies would be hurt by this…and thousands of artists would suffer. Not to mention the many, many thousands of theatre goers who support non-Equity theatre, independent music, and other cultural events.
3919. Patty Duffy | May 13, 2008 at 8:43 am
This is dumb. Pass this ordinance and you might as well take away Chicago’s title of greatest city in the world
3920. afreivogel | May 13, 2008 at 8:43 am
Don’t pass a new law, just enforce the existing ones. Chicago has yet to slip into first place on much of anything that makes us an attractive city (such as green initiatives, RECYCLING, broadband access, public transportation) so don’t do anything to make us more mediocre, especially in a vital area like the arts.
3921. Sharon Post | May 13, 2008 at 8:43 am
Chicago has one of the best, and most affordable, music scenes in the country. This ordinance will go a long way toward killing that scene. I remember going to the Empty Bottle and the Metro when I was an eighteen-year-old UofC student. We can’t let these people take that experience away from another generation of otherwise miserable UofCers. We need music to keep us just barely sane.
3922. Brian Hanslik | May 13, 2008 at 8:44 am
This is a terrible idea. Please do not let this pass.
Music is Life !!!!!
3923. charles haynes | May 13, 2008 at 8:44 am
the local music scene is vibrant and this new ordinance will kill it. Please vote no to this ordinace. The small venue is where all musicians get their start, in order for the industry to continue to grow these venues must be protected from this kind of ordinace. One love and keep the vibes flowing. Charles Haynes
3924. Jennifer Endres | May 13, 2008 at 8:44 am
The city should be helping small local businesses and music venues. not taxing them and driving them out of business while giving big tax breaks to larger venues! Shame on you Chicago!
3925. Susanne Glazbrook | May 13, 2008 at 8:45 am
I am strongly opposed to this ordinance.
3926. Tanya | May 13, 2008 at 8:45 am
Please don’t do this to the city. Their must be another way for the City to collect revenue. The city is known for it’s diversity and culture despite it’s racial segregation. Music is what makes Chicago great.
3927. Brent Fuscaldo | May 13, 2008 at 8:45 am
We’re already an under-funded country for art, where music and expression has wedge between the cracks in a sidewalk to exist. Our city is the most vibrant music community thanks to DIY promoters and bands who are willing to come from all over the world to play for little money and hardly any attendance. Promoters in some instances are like non-profit social workers and these are the people our City Council compares to any other business that needs to be regulated. The fact is these people also have to hold full-time jobs and promote shows on their own time. This bill will effect everyone, not just the promoters who it will deter. And shows will still happen in this case, but just be defined as illegal…is that how we want to classify expression in this great city?
3928. cara | May 13, 2008 at 8:45 am
why have something like Looptopia, an art festival encouraging local artists to share their ideas and visions, making it free for the public to enjoy, and then punish them for trying to promote the very same ideas that were just encouraged? Smaller theaters, local musicians, and struggling artists rely on self promotion to make themselves heard. It’s hard enough to get the masses to come to, appreciate, or indulge in your artwork without some bullshit ordinance holding them back. If this passes, Chicago is not only against the very people that make their city interesting, they are a city of hypocrites.
3929. Michael Romano | May 13, 2008 at 8:45 am
Just because the city doesn’t know how to manage it’s budget doesn’t mean that the heart of Chicago should suffer…too many great bands come from Chicago and we need to keep our identity! If this is passed we shall protest…Who Is With Me?
3930. David | May 13, 2008 at 8:45 am
This ordinance smacks of what is standard from City Hall—blatant greed, corruption and incompetence. I’m beyond being tired of the self interests in local politics. We need a transparent government with new leadership soon. This ordinance will kill the creative spirit of this city and leave only larger corporate pablum to pass as “entertainment”. Ironic that a city government seeking to attract the upscale, entertainment-consuming condo dweller is so stupid (or blinded by greed?) to realize that a varied cultural tapestry is exactly what entices that same dweller. Again, we need new leadership!
3931. summer | May 13, 2008 at 8:46 am
I urge you to stop this city ordinance. It’s harmful to the vitality of Chicago’s cultural scene.
3932. Cristin Finnigan | May 13, 2008 at 8:46 am
The only places I go to spend my money are “little” venues to see “unknown” artists. This ordinance would force a LOT of people (revenue) OUT of the city. Is that really the only option you would leave us?
3933. Kenneth Ortman | May 13, 2008 at 8:46 am
This bill won’t prevent any disasters, it will just provide a way of punishing people after the fact… and it will strangle the cultural life out of the city. I know the Aldermen don’t give a damn. They want Chicago to be a giant version of Naperville. It’s a shame.
3934. mark winter | May 13, 2008 at 8:46 am
We often drive from Milwaukee to Chicago just to see shows we cant see here or anywhere.
That means we eat and sleep and drink in Chicago too.
killing culture seems like a bad idea.
3935. Joe Goforth | May 13, 2008 at 8:47 am
This CANNOT pass.
3936. Meghan G | May 13, 2008 at 8:47 am
Please do not vote for this ordinance.
3937. Dayna Malow | May 13, 2008 at 8:48 am
This is so very sad. The amount of people this would be affecting is staggering, and quite scary. Sure, Independent promoters and musicians will feel this the most, but many other businesses and individuals profit along the way when an event, the ordinance is describing, occurs. Have you considered the possible impact on licensed club owners, their staff and patrons, booking agents and their staff, sound / lighting companies and their staff, independent record labels and their staff, graphic design artists, printing companies, PR companies, small newspapers and publications. Take into account that fewer events w/fewer patrons will also impact food and liquor producers and distributors, not to mention the surrounding businesses to the event including hotels, parking garages, ATM machines, convenience stores, etc.
Please don’t pass this ordinance. There must be a better way to monitor these events w/o taking from those that don’t have much to give. With the state of things as they are, shouldn’t we be looking for ways to “stimulate” our local economy?
3938. Mark Szostak | May 13, 2008 at 8:48 am
NO!! Don’t do this too us!
3939. Kyle Kinzie | May 13, 2008 at 8:48 am
Restrictions on art, such as this one, threaten to stifle not only our current musical and theatrical artists and communities but also future generations of creativity. We see the ramifications already in art programs being cut in our schools. How far will this go? Please say no to this ordinance
3940. Eric Chow | May 13, 2008 at 8:48 am
I strongly oppose this ordinance.
3941. John Dudas | May 13, 2008 at 8:48 am
Ugghh! Do they want to force us to become outlaws?
If you want to keep young people off of the streets, let them put on some shows!
3942. Jason Squires | May 13, 2008 at 8:48 am
Worry about potholes,taxes,and the vast list of important issues facing this city. Leave the music scene,and the little guy alone.
3943. Jack Morris | May 13, 2008 at 8:48 am
Chicago is a music town, all this ordinance will do is force more bands to play at the Pearl Room in Mokena, Genesee Theater in Waukegan or even just skipping the area and just playing at the Rave up in Milwaukee. I am tired of living near Chicago and driving to other cities to see shows. The city needs to be embracing the small venues and encouraging artists to be playing in Chicago not pushing them away. This does not help the fans or the artists only the pockets of politicians!
3944. terry vigor | May 13, 2008 at 8:49 am
As a longtime patron of Phylis’s Musical Inn, I must strongly protest this riduculous ordinance. It would kill the club and many more like and would force those that remain to jack up their prices. Stop this madness for the sake of independent music and theatre!!!!!!
3945. Derel Schmitz | May 13, 2008 at 8:49 am
While I can understand the general idea of the ordinance, it is clearly going to hurt the community. Please review how the rule is written and do not pass this!
3946. Jim Schneider | May 13, 2008 at 8:49 am
Small venues, theaters and galleries are a large part of what makes Chicago attractive to visitors and residents alike. To limit and restrict that is a major blow to the heartbeat of the city. I sincerely hope the City Council sees this and votes against this needless and culturally damaging ordinance.
3947. BCKdy | May 13, 2008 at 8:49 am
Chicago has an awesome music scene and it is because of the abundant and eclectic mix of venues that give acts of all different sizes a place to share their art. Please don’t take this away. Without this I would have fewer memories and even fewer to look forward to making.
3948. ben | May 13, 2008 at 8:49 am
I wonder what exactly they are trying to stop. I have a hard time imagining this is to stop every small music venue or theater in Chicago…that would be insane.
3949. Shawn Schlag | May 13, 2008 at 8:49 am
I am strongly opposed to this proposal. The music scene in Chicago has become known as one of the best in the country. Besides slowing the local economy, it destroys one of the very things which make our city unique and interesting.
It seems unfortunate that a seemingly small group of people in our city feel the need to tell those enjoying and exploring this town to ‘be quiet’. This is one of the most populated 20 mile areas in the North America. Yes, there are people everywhere. With 3.79 million square miles in this country, it would seem to me they could find somewhere else to go where they won’t be bothered.
3950. Frank Alviani | May 13, 2008 at 8:50 am
Please do not destroy music and the arts in Chicago! Passing this will do nothing to stop those who violate other laws routinely, and will destroy a major part of the attraction of the city. On the one hand you’re willing to spend hundreds of millions to attract the Olympics, and on the other hand you want to remove a major reason many visit Chicago? This makes no sense.
Do not pass bad legislation just so you can say “I was taking action!”
3951. tara | May 13, 2008 at 8:50 am
As someone with nothing but love for the city of Chicago, this ordinance cannot happen. This will ruin the lifeblood of local artists and stifle growing artists who are trying to reach people and touch lives.
I severely object to this, and Chicago’s tourism will suffer from it as well.
3952. Pemon | May 13, 2008 at 8:50 am
There would be no major arts institutions without individuals and small promoters having a way to learn their craft and develop and audience. Please stop this madness!
3953. Amanda Raymond | May 13, 2008 at 8:50 am
It would break my heart to have there not be any more shows at places like the Metro or Schubas. These are the venues where entertainers create an intimate setting with such a diverse audience. They bring people from all different backgrounds together to enjoy one of the greatest aspects of the city. To get rid of such great opportunities that highlight what the city has to offer would be a shame.
3954. blake edwards | May 13, 2008 at 8:51 am
this ordinance will severely squelch the thriving DIY music and arts environment in Chicago; I urge the City Council to reconsider their position on it.
3955. Tracey Quinn | May 13, 2008 at 8:51 am
Stop it.
3956. fabiola quinones | May 13, 2008 at 8:52 am
This is ridiculous. How are people supposed to try to make a living off of music and promotionms if they have to pay ridiculous fees!
This is a city of local music. This is a city of art.
Jobs and revenue will be lost across the board. As will places for kids to go and have fun while staying at out trouble.
If veneues have insurance and such, why should promoters and artists? This seems like the government trying to censor art.
Are we really back there?
3957. Bonnie Muffitt | May 13, 2008 at 8:52 am
Lets save our cultural diversity in the arts and entertainment and say NO to the promoters ordinance. The best shows I have seen have been in smaller venues. As a mom of a budding musician, smaller venues offer a realm of opportunities for up and coming musicians and actors. This makes no sense, especially in promoting our city for tourism as well as the Olympics.
3958. Shimby McCreery | May 13, 2008 at 8:52 am
Having come from Atlanta, a city with under ten seriously good venues, I appreciate Chicago’s vibrant arts and music scene so much. Help it grow! Don’t make it shrink!
Why would you tax small venues and not large ones?! Didn’t we learn anything from Bush’s economic policy of reducing the tax burden on those who already have.
This legislation will have a seriously negative impact on the arts and music scene of Chicago. It clearly makes it more difficult and expensive to promote and perform arts. You’re hurting not only the for-profit venues but also all of the not for profit artists who simply need venues for their voice to be heard.
3959. Y. Johnson | May 13, 2008 at 8:52 am
I am against this ordinance…..the dumbest thing I’ve heard of….what’s next?
3960. Elena Jimenez | May 13, 2008 at 8:52 am
I oppose this ordinance — it would mean the end of much of what I love about Chicago.
3961. Gina Kay | May 13, 2008 at 8:53 am
This ordinance is unreasonable , please stop!
3962. DJ | May 13, 2008 at 8:53 am
Adding my name to this petition to say: NOT COOL.
3963. kim | May 13, 2008 at 8:53 am
After having lived in Orlando, FL for a year, I was counting my lucky stars to move back to my hometown of Chicago. In FL, like much of America, all that there is to be found is strip malls, fast food and whatever trite garbage Disney is packaging out. Chicago is one of the last strongholds of REAL art and culture in a world of Clear Channel and Disney. There are so few places of refuge for those of us who care about art. We are still paying the government for everything else we do. Please don’t take the joy of culture away from us while we are writing those checks!
3964. Scott Middleton | May 13, 2008 at 8:53 am
What a load of crap!!! As if it isn’t bad enough that in most cases performers get paid little to nothing. Adding this stupid ordinance will push every artist out of the city.
I am musician, and while our band plays primarily in Lake county IL, I also enjoy coming to Chicago to check out new talent and spend time and MONEY in the clubs and bars that feature live music.
I am also concerned that if this ordinance passes other towns might try to enact the same thing.
REAL BAD MOVE CHICAGO CITY COUNSEL!!!!!!!
3965. Leigh Vaughn | May 13, 2008 at 8:54 am
This ordinance is truly a sad piece of evidence at the lack of support that the arts gets from government and other authorities. Hopefully the vast number of those opposed to this ordinance will show those with the power to stop this ordinance that the ordinance is not helping anyone aside from themselves and is hurting a vast majority more. Stop this ordinance before the specific culture that makes Chicago what it is gets taken away from not only us, but the future visitors and residents of this great city.
3966. kevin t. | May 13, 2008 at 8:54 am
The oversensationalism of the tragedy of E2 brought upon by the media will stifle and damage both a vibrant music scene and fragile economy here. This was a single incident that happened over 5 years ago here and has not occurred since. Regardless of social status or age, we all agree that it was terrible what happened that night and never want to see it repeat. But the regulations already in place are more than sufficient and further ones will do more harm than good.
3967. Kay | May 13, 2008 at 8:54 am
Please don’t let the council kill creativity. Chicago has its own sense of identity, and part of that identity comes from the music that the local scene there creates.
The Chicago council will achieve nothing with this implementation of this particular policy so I have absolutely no idea as to why they are even thinking of introducing it in the first place.
Hey people of the Chicago council, if you take this aspect of your local identity away, I think it’ll be safe to say that the damage will be extremely large.
Good luck with the decision and hope you come to the right one. I’m sure you know what decision is the ‘right’ one.
3968. Kat Leonard | May 13, 2008 at 8:54 am
Don’t kill off Chicago’s contribution to music!
Someone just hasn’t thought this out.
3969. Nicos Kennedy | May 13, 2008 at 8:54 am
Why don’t we bring back the prohibition of alcohol while we’re at it. Am I being absurd? Well so is this ordinance. Let us not take away the platforms for artists to give back to the community. Thank you.
3970. Candace Marren | May 13, 2008 at 8:54 am
I can’t imagine my City without all of the little theatres. This is what makes us such a great city. There is always something to see or do. When the Olympics come to Chicago what fun they will have visiting our many theatres. Why would you want to take this away?
3971. Lars Gotrich | May 13, 2008 at 8:54 am
I don’t live in Chicago, but I love to visit and hope to live there someday. Please do not let this ordinance hurt hard-working small music venues and the musicians that make their living in them.
3972. Alexis Saba | May 13, 2008 at 8:55 am
Chicago is known for its music scene. Please do not let this pass!
3973. Amy Carlton | May 13, 2008 at 8:55 am
No, no, no! What a horrible, stupid idea.
3974. R.E. Jones | May 13, 2008 at 8:55 am
Please DO NOT PASS this ordinance as it stands written.
3975. Jennifer | May 13, 2008 at 8:56 am
I don’t understand this City anymore. Please don’t pass this ordinance!
3976. CO | May 13, 2008 at 8:56 am
This is a cheap way for the city of Chicago to make money and prey on artists that don’t have any money to begin with. They know that artists will have no choice but to comply because promotion is the only way to get their creativity known. This cannot happen.
3977. Jason Riley | May 13, 2008 at 8:56 am
This is unexceptable! A large part of what makes Chicago so unique is the creativity of small time artists. Please do not pass this vote!
3978. Debbie Ruzicka | May 13, 2008 at 8:56 am
If this passes, it will cost Chicago dearly. If there is nothing left to do in the city but go to bland big box shows for huge bucks, and it is nothing better than you get on cable, People will stay home. Why spend the gas money on a night on the town in Chicago? Small venues and up and coming artists make this town’s nightlife run. It will also ruin Chicago’s reputation as a hotbed of artistic creation. There is no win here for Chicago or the people who love it.
3979. Ken Greby | May 13, 2008 at 8:57 am
As a Chicago native now living in Miami, I appreciate the Chicago music scene when I visit to load up on Italian beef and visit my old haunts. As a current FL resident, I am keenly aware of the importance of good music (and food) to a city’s “life blood”.
Imposing additional fees on young artists trying to gain a toehold in todays tough economy makes no sense whatsoever.
Anyone familiar with music (and comedy) knows that the ones with the best voices often have the least cash in their pockets initially. They need venues to get their messages out there.
As a now-tourist, I want to hear these people in CLUBS, not having to see them begging on the street!
Be smarter Chicago!
Ken Greby.
Chicago-born, Miami-stuck…
3980. Joe M | May 13, 2008 at 8:57 am
Please, please, please don’t take away my heart and soul. This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.
3981. Seta Ghazarian | May 13, 2008 at 8:57 am
please do not pass this ordinance. what is the point of it anyway? i think we have much bigger problems in the city that need attention by the City Council and police… such as gun violence for example???
3982. Jim Saccone | May 13, 2008 at 8:58 am
Chicago’s music seen is part of what makes living in the city great, please do not pass this ordinance!
3983. Geoff Crump | May 13, 2008 at 8:58 am
I moved to Chicago specifically get away from a city that stifles creativity and ideas. Working with independent groups or putting up your own shows is the only way you can still learn and perform without shelling out thousands of dollars to the big $$ improv/sketch schools is the hopes that you possibly might make it onto a stage. Sure, a lot of people go through those schools anyway but it is imperative that there are other options too.
3984. Sheila Lewis | May 13, 2008 at 8:59 am
As a local arts, music and theatre enthusiast, this ordinance places unfair financial burden on the local cultural events that make Chicago a city of vibrant neighborhoods.
Please vote NO!
3985. Ashir Badami | May 13, 2008 at 8:59 am
This ordinance is discriminatory and against the wishes of the music loving citizenry of Chicago. We the PEOPLE do not pay taxes to so that entrenched politicians can support their vested interests. We have the right to choose our venues, and to have the freedom of choice. If the City of Chicago insists on dictating the terms of our cultural involvement we have no choice but to support new leadership. There are far more important issues that need urgent attention. Wake up Mayor Daley and alderman of Chicago. Help the people of Chicago live lives of quality. Give us something in return for our loyalty and hard work.
3986. Byron Durham | May 13, 2008 at 8:59 am
The proposed ordinance targets smaller independent promoters since it only applies to events with under 500 people. Requiring a license fee of $500 and up of smaller promoters is effectively CENSORSHIP and this ordinance will not stand up in court if passed!
If small events are effectively outlawed, only outlaws with have them! The city will lose any contact with any small promoters who cannot afford the license fee, meaning LESS security at their events, LESS control by the city, and LESS safety for the attendees.
We are an artist collective that thrives under the current laws, please don’t make us outlaws! But if you do, SEE YOU IN COURT.
3987. M.T. Higgins | May 13, 2008 at 8:59 am
Please do not pass this ordinance. It could result in some very unpleasant long-term consequences for the city, especially in the art community.
3988. Andrew McCarthy | May 13, 2008 at 8:59 am
If the city handled E2 the way it should have in the 1st place, this wouldn’t be happening now. Wasn’t it supposed to be closed for violations? Any time the city council or the mayor get caught with their pants down, the citizens of Chicago have to pay for it. World class city? Right. This ordinance is just the latest proposal by alderman, and officials who have no clue what is best for chicago or it’s people. This bulls**it has to stop.
3989. Jim Saccone | May 13, 2008 at 9:00 am
scene not seen, but you know what I mean!
3990. Paul Hirsch | May 13, 2008 at 9:01 am
Please do not make my only musical options big and corporate. I rather not see Madonna at The Allstate Arena. Keep Chicago’s musical tradition alive and local. Please do not pass this ordinance. Thank you.
3991. Atalee Judy | May 13, 2008 at 9:01 am
Dear City Council,
What city are we in? I just got back from Russia and they don’t restrict their artists like this and punish them for not having 500 people in the audience!!! They actually WANT to promote their ARTS because it BENEFITS their community, their culture AND get this, it benefits EVERYONE and makes them MORE cultured. What a concept.
This ordinance would affect not only the music scene, but it runs the gamut from wedding events, fundraisers to dance, theatre & performance art. ANYTHING is under their radar and this is unnacceptable. You can bet on your stolen dollars that I will be taking names.
VOTE THIS ORDINANCE DOWN!!! I love Chicago for it’s small venues, it’s intimate communities! This would be a disaster!!! Our underground culture is what makes Chicago so amazing and also what makes our artists STAY here as opposed to moving to NYC or LA. Our artistic culture is thiving…THINK about it Chicago Alderman.
VOTE NO & SAVE CHICAO CULTURE
Atalee Judy
Artistic Director
Breakbone DanceCo.
501(c)3 NFP since 1998
3992. Ryan M | May 13, 2008 at 9:01 am
This is terrible for the nightlife and the city that is known for its diverse music scene. Please don’t take from our rich culture!
3993. S. Gillespie | May 13, 2008 at 9:01 am
Can’t imagine the city without our music venues. It brings people together to celebrate sound. It would be shame to lose that!
3994. Casey | May 13, 2008 at 9:02 am
As a graphic designer and a promoter this action on behalf of the city and the corporate event promoters that can afford the licensing would cripple my own business and the Chicago creative culture.
What purpose would limiting the actions of events under 500 or even 1000 have other than to stifle the creative community in general while collecting taxes in the process?
I guarantee I will be leaving Chicago immediately if the action goes through.
Having read a lot about the history of Chicago and the greatest event in America to date I know how the “windy city” can stir the turd and ultimately risk destroying that which would make it great. If it were not for people that have passion for their pursuits and the glory of Chicago the higher-ups would have killed it long ago.
3995. Elizabeth V Johnson | May 13, 2008 at 9:02 am
Where do I sign?
3996. Andrew Cone | May 13, 2008 at 9:02 am
If passed, this ordinance will have two results: 1) It will stifle artistic and possibly political expression, and 2) it will make criminials out of those who refuse to submit to such an arbirtrary law.
I will be in the second category. Come and get me.
3997. Lindsey Stupica | May 13, 2008 at 9:02 am
Please don’t let this happen! I would be so heartbroken!
3998. Marc Giannettino | May 13, 2008 at 9:02 am
This is absolutely absurd. Chicago’s artistic and cultural community is too important to be jeopardized by such an inane proposal. If nothing else, (since it all seems to be about the $$ anyway) think of the devastating effect this will have not only on the artistic community, but on the surrounding businesses that rely on the traffic that is driven by these institutions.
VOTE NO TO THE ORDINANCE!
3999. Todd Cywinski | May 13, 2008 at 9:02 am
Please do not vote for this ordinance as currently written.
4000. Diane Gillette | May 13, 2008 at 9:03 am
The music scene is one of the things that makes Chicago so fantastic and one of the many reasons I love living in Chicago. Please don’t let this happen!
4001. Gregg | May 13, 2008 at 9:03 am
All right, seriously. This is a really poorly thought-out idea with big stupid consequences.
4002. Jeremy Piniak | May 13, 2008 at 9:03 am
As a longtime music fan, the passing of this ordinance will go a long way to disrupting and destroying the vibrant music scene in this city, as well as the theater and art scenes. Chicago is not a cultural wasteland, let’s keep it that way.
4003. Daniel Kopec | May 13, 2008 at 9:04 am
This is ridicioulous! I just read the article about this mess in the Sun TImes. If they pass this law Chicago will not attract any bands and it will kill music. What are they going to try to do next, ban cd’s of the bands who can’t afford the $2,000? I am TOTALLY against this! The city can not pass this ordance!
4004. Valerie | May 13, 2008 at 9:04 am
Wow. Please, with all respect, do not pass this ordinance. It would be damaging to my life and to the lives of others. Going to shows at small venues like the Metro and Riviera is something I look forward to every year and it’s part of who I am. Please have some heart and keep Chicago’s music scene alive!
4005. Sarah D. | May 13, 2008 at 9:04 am
How many bands or even band members of big named bands came from Chicago? Too many to even count! Chicago is well known for it’s music and people of all ages enjoy music shows, from jazz to rock to even country! No one in their right mind is going to follow that long list of procedures just to come to Chicago. So what happens then? Chicago gets screwed by a few people who decide millions of people’s lives! You are crazy if you don’t vote NO!
4006. Kate Brown | May 13, 2008 at 9:04 am
Wasting the city council’s efforts on something as knitpicky as this and upsetting so many people who enjoy these venues is just absurd. The city council should spend their time working on bigger problems in the city, like the homeless people or pollution.
Get with it and leave what bit of Chicago’s culture that is NOT for tourists alone.
4007. Elvira Aguilera | May 13, 2008 at 9:04 am
I vote… NO
4008. Shannon Moore | May 13, 2008 at 9:04 am
Please don’t pass this ordinance as it is written. Listen to those that work every day in Chicago’s music scene. This ordinance NEEDS their input. I love going to see bands here and I love the fact that I can go almost anywhere in the city to see them. If this ordinance gets passed in its current form, that could all go away.
4009. A Nakashima | May 13, 2008 at 9:04 am
Whose absurd idea is this? If Mayor Daley wants to keep Chicago a wellspring of fresh new talent, playing at these wonderfully well-know and some, historic venues, and continue Chi-Town’s reputation as a growing and vibrant cultural mecca of the arts, he and the council members better squash this ordinance NOW!!!
4010. Chris Kenny | May 13, 2008 at 9:04 am
Why would the City of Chicago want to hurt the cultural roots of the city while filling their own coffers with fees and giving premiums to insurance companies? Further, the musical scene in Chicago is one of the key factors driving young people to move into this city in droves for the first time in a long time. If the city wants to truly create an oligopoly of large promoters with little variation beyond Top 40, this would do it. This is not an effective response to E2.
4011. Mark Mackowiak | May 13, 2008 at 9:05 am
I strongly oppose this. Please do not pass this ordinance.
4012. Robert Koon | May 13, 2008 at 9:05 am
OK, so small (not wealthy) promoters are the targets of this ordinance while the large and wealthy promoters (and their large and lucrative venues) are exempted? No wonder this was slipped through without public comment. Once again the City tries to grab their cut, not from those who have it, but from those who don’t.
4013. Carita | May 13, 2008 at 9:05 am
Of all the problems in this big”old” city all these people can focus on is stopping local artist from performing? I’m confused I thought that Chicago was a city? Maybe we have different definitions of what a city is but I was born and raised here and Chicago is known for its diversity, its open mics, local artist and talents. With all the killings and shootings happening throughout the city somoene actually has time to focus on this…..WOW. How petty and selfish can one be? The last time I checked music is universal and has stopped a lot anger and brought peace and love.
Come on bring the old “CHi-town back!!!
4014. Aaron Roemig | May 13, 2008 at 9:05 am
I strongly disagree with this bill.
4015. Andrea Jones | May 13, 2008 at 9:05 am
Food, Shelter, Clothing…the basics will be wiped away for some. This cannot happen.
4016. David Pellissier | May 13, 2008 at 9:05 am
Come on Chicago! This is just stupid. Stop this now!
4017. joshua | May 13, 2008 at 9:05 am
hell no
we wont go.
4018. Nanette Sawyer | May 13, 2008 at 9:06 am
I am horrified by this ordinance. The arts are a vital part of Chicago culture and to disable small groups from adding to cultural vibrancy will be a grave disservice to life in the city.
We should be making it easier for small groups to add to cultural creativity, not more difficult.
4019. Jennifer Mosley | May 13, 2008 at 9:06 am
The vibrant local music scene is one of the best features of Chicago and am important part of its cultural heritage. This law would put an unnecessary burden on people and their right to freely congregate. This is a poorly thought through knee jerk reaction that will be lamented for years to come. I assume that city council members are serving because they care about their city. If they care about Chicago, they will vote down this bill and find another way to make sure that event spaces are safe.
Jennifer Mosley
Chicago, Il 60615
Assistant Professor, University of Chicago
4020. Scott Bradley | May 13, 2008 at 9:06 am
Regardless of how well-meaning, this law seems to serve no purpose but to hinder the already difficult task of being an independent artist or nonprofit group in this city, and without the diverse artistic climate currently in Chicago, the city is nothing more than a big, dirty, dangerous suburb. No Thanks; I’ll pack my bags.
4021. Brian Tomsheck | May 13, 2008 at 9:06 am
Don’t punish the outstanding clubs and music venues because of one bad apple. This ordinance is absurd. In a time where a lot of people are hurting financially, they will lose out on an escape from their pain because prices to see their favorite performer will be too expensive. Please think before you vote.
4022. Kristen Hayes | May 13, 2008 at 9:06 am
Chicago is well known for its rich culture. Many people choose to visit there because of the exciting creative atmosphere. If this ordance is allowed to become law, it will destroy everything Chicago is about. Don’t let that happen!
4023. Robert | May 13, 2008 at 9:07 am
All this will do is escalate the burden on public aid and welfare systems as entertainers all over the city are put out of work. Not to mention the loss of revenue for venues damage to tourist trade and overall culture in Chicago. Although the city may be trying to provide some safety and a combat a legitimate issue, once again thay are blundering there way through, and trying to create legislation for an area they know nothing about, and are reluctant to ask those who know.
4024. P. Caron | May 13, 2008 at 9:07 am
Don’t fence me in!
4025. Chelsea Ives | May 13, 2008 at 9:07 am
This is terrible. Not only would this effect the wonderful artistic culture that Chicago is so well known for, it will stifle even the smallest of artists looking to get out there and make something of their art. I have so many friends and love ones in this business and I know that if this ordinance become reality, they’ll all have to stop what the love to do so very much. This will change chicago in a terrible way. Please do not let this happen.
4026. stsve jaracz | May 13, 2008 at 9:07 am
it’s tough enough for performers to get by without the additional hurdles suggested by this proposal. Also, this will drive up the cost of SEEING live music as well, putting it out of reach for many people.
4027. Andrea Jones | May 13, 2008 at 9:08 am
Food, Shelter, Clothing …the basics…will be wiped away for some. This cannot and should not haapoen.
4028. Tony Orant | May 13, 2008 at 9:08 am
This ordinance is unacceptable in its present form. While its spirit and intent may be designed for the safety of citizenry, as currently drafted, it really focuses more on eliminating fair trade and gives mega-conglomerates like Live Nation and Clear Channel free reign, and engenders monopoly-centric activity.
As a career musician who has been doing this for over twenty years at various levels of success, this would pretty much eliminate the legal activities I conduct and force me (and every other Chicago musician, or musician working in Chicago) to conduct business in illegal manner. That of course means you’d be stimulating the very activities you’re trying to regulate and make safer.
Vote NO now; redraft and re-propose, with more input from our community.
Thank you for your concern and cooperation in this matter.
Tony Orant
4029. Dan Phillips | May 13, 2008 at 9:08 am
It only took a glance at the proposal to know that this is messed up. At a time when playing live is overtaking recorded music sales as the key revenue strem for musicians, we can’t let this happen. Full-stop NO to the Promoter’s Ordinance.
4030. Robert Hyman | May 13, 2008 at 9:08 am
I am very much opposed to this proposed ordinance. I can understand peoples desires to protect each other in public places but there is a point at which living your life is your choice and doing what you wish takes a certain risk in life. The level of restriction that is being proposed will stop a large part of the Chicago live music scene all together. It does not seem fair in the least and should not be approved or enforced.
Thanks,
Rob
4031. Hugh Daly | May 13, 2008 at 9:08 am
How could such a restrictive proposal even get consideration at City Council. Good job to whoever caught this and brought it was passed and thanks to Jim DeRogatis for bringing it to the attention of the public. I moved to Chicago almost twenty years ago from Dublin and one of the main reasons I came was the tremendous music scene. Chicago has historically encouraged musicians at every level to get out there and play, a proposal such as this would have catastrophoc consequences not just for small bar and club owners but will also take it’s toll on music stores, music schools, like the Old Town School, and music programs within our public and private schools.
On the other hand, would this mean the end of Karoke? There could be an upside here after all…just kidding this proposal has to be stopped.
Hugh Daly
4032. Joan Anderson | May 13, 2008 at 9:08 am
As if it’s not bad enough that Chicago’s *airwaves* have always been bottled up except for a select chosen few. Now they’re coming after Chicago’s live music? hmmm. . . I smell a rat. Well folks, at this pathetic rate I guess we’ll never be a Nashville “woo-hoo!” & can forget about L.A. or NYC. We’re not supposed to be listening to music in this town anyway! Go out and pay to see a ball-game b/c that’s where all the investors want our attention anyway . . sigh.
4033. Nate Onsrud | May 13, 2008 at 9:08 am
Please stop the ordinance!! No good can possibly come from this.
4034. Dennis H | May 13, 2008 at 9:08 am
It was dumb enough when little mayor Daily bulldozed Meigs Field..and chased away pilots…now what’s going to happen, impose all kinds of fees and so called taxes on more small business operators of the small to medium size clubs, just to chase them out of town, too? Come on, you aldermen, where in the hell do you think the money is coming from? Keep this up, and you can REALLY KISS THE OLYMPICS GOODBYE, TOO!!!!!!
4035. Ben Veatch | May 13, 2008 at 9:08 am
I am against this ordinance. Chicago is known nationally and internationally as one of the best places around for theatre and music. I came to Chicago because of its thriving theatre and music scene. As an actor who works predominately in smaller venues, the kinds that will be affected by this ordinance, I know how hard it is to run a theatre on a limited budget and still maintain the high caliber of work that people have come to expect from Chicago theatres. This ordinance will be one more nail in the coffin of many already financially strapped theatres and music venues. There must be a better method for the city to increase its coffers.
4036. Larry | May 13, 2008 at 9:09 am
Please don’t take our music away.
4037. Bonnie Baxter | May 13, 2008 at 9:09 am
This is crazy! Add me to the petition!
4038. Michael ignagni | May 13, 2008 at 9:09 am
Chicago music is held so dearly to me, this will jeopardize it!
4039. tom sindowski | May 13, 2008 at 9:09 am
Please DO NOT PASS this ordinance
4040. Patrick M. Jones | May 13, 2008 at 9:09 am
And government takes another step away from the desires of the people. We’ve not only lost control, we’ve lost influence.
4041. Jaime Landolfi | May 13, 2008 at 9:09 am
I strongly disapprove of this ordinance.
Such measures would crush the spread of creativity and stifle the cultural freedom that makes chicago the wonderful city that it is.
4042. Dan Mucha | May 13, 2008 at 9:09 am
This is insane. Let’s not let this go through!
4043. Mike | May 13, 2008 at 9:09 am
Unbelievable. Typical Chicago politics. And who benefits from this ordinance???
4044. Bill MacKay | May 13, 2008 at 9:09 am
Like many, this strikes me as just plain outrageous: an affront to the richness and creativity of the arts in Chicago. The ordinance in question will be an absolute disaster for the arts/music scene in the city.
4045. Kristin Shout | May 13, 2008 at 9:10 am
A rotten idea and counterproductive for a flourishing artists community.
pass this ordinance and kill the arts.
Are they trying to drive us out of the city?
4046. Janet Sodaro | May 13, 2008 at 9:10 am
The arts community encounters enough barriers and hurdles compliments of the Federal gov’t – This is an outrageous attempt to increase revenue and would smother the little arts organizations that have to fight for audiences and money. STOP THIS ORDINANCE FROM BECOMING A REALITY!
4047. Sharon | May 13, 2008 at 9:10 am
I do not support this ordinance.
4048. Rose Starin | May 13, 2008 at 9:10 am
This cannot be allowed. I am totally against this.
4049. L. | May 13, 2008 at 9:10 am
Just adding my voice to those who oppose this ordinance.
4050. Stephen Scott | May 13, 2008 at 9:10 am
Please do not pass this ordinance!
4051. Brian Brennan | May 13, 2008 at 9:10 am
As the co-founder of a new company that puts on events that brings musicians, painters, film makers, theater groups, performance artists, and comedians together to perform/display their art and to raise funds for non-profits, I am deeply concerned that this malicious, revenue generating idea has even been brought to a table to be discussed, let alone already passed. The city counsel is obviously clueless about how to function as an independent artist, band or theater group.
4052. Dan Boczarski | May 13, 2008 at 9:11 am
Signed,
Dan Boczarski
4053. Cristin McAuley | May 13, 2008 at 9:11 am
Do no stifle Chicago’s world class music scene! Stop this ordinance!
4054. Nate | May 13, 2008 at 9:12 am
please rethink this. no good can come from it.
4055. Jennifer | May 13, 2008 at 9:12 am
Of all the horrible things going on in the world and in Chicago, it’s outrageous to me that the one Chicago would choose to focus on would be something that takes happiness and positive creative energy out of people’s lives. This city is known for its black-box theatre, live music, and improv comedy. Without these, Chicago will be ruined.
4056. Denise Ardizzone | May 13, 2008 at 9:12 am
I strongly urge all representatives of the people of Chicago to vote AGAINST this ordinance. If it is passed, you will be doing great harm to the cultural landscape of this city. Vote NO!
4057. Matt Smith | May 13, 2008 at 9:12 am
The news of this proposed ordinance sickens me to my core. To relegate all but the top-tier acts into the suburbs is to dilute the artistic vibrancy of a very creative city. If if is Chicago’s wish to be the musical equivalent of Branson, then I see no better way to accomplish it than with this ill-advised ordinance.
4058. Nikki | May 13, 2008 at 9:12 am
This is just not very well thought out. Part of what makes this city culturally rich is it’s small productions. I hoped the industrial age was coming to an end but it won’t stop until every last thing is mass produced. It’s back to the basements unless we become more aware.
4059. Robert Zajkowski | May 13, 2008 at 9:13 am
No! This would not protect anyone–only destroy Chicago as a place where great music is created. There is already an entertainment tax paid by clubs and the are responsible for their capacity and safety. The truth is now, the music maker is often the promoter because they already work for nothing. This law would damage the creative vibrancy of the city–which is built on a tradition of small clubs for blues, jazz, and musicians and DJ’s getting their chops and developing their sound. Again, NO to the Promoters Law.
4060. Andrew JArosh | May 13, 2008 at 9:13 am
I believe this is ridiculous to try and take away a place where kids and adults can come together and enjoy music and stay out of the streets. If the city only new how much this means to people to go to shows on the weekends and weekdays. Im a musician and if this goes through i really dont know what ill do with my spare time. u know what they say idle minds equal an evil time. I cant believe they want to take away someones way of being creative and showing it to the public so that they can relate on it. We must do something otherwise DIY will die.
Join Together
UNITY thats what we need
4061. Rick Stoeckel | May 13, 2008 at 9:13 am
This bill is ridiculous. It will hurt Chicago music.
4062. Sarah Thompson | May 13, 2008 at 9:14 am
The richness of the Chicago arts scene lies in the great quality of more intimate venues and performance groups. A law such as this would strip our city of its finest jewels.
4063. Edward McMahon | May 13, 2008 at 9:14 am
This is the opposite of what the city should be doing. Let’s support small business and the artists. They build community and add character to a city.
4064. Steve VN | May 13, 2008 at 9:14 am
Once again, The Chicago City Council demonstrates that they are an impediment to living well in this city rahter than any kind of help. These self-interested swine are useless, corrupt and out of touch with the real citizens. They are like ticks growing fat off of our life’s blood. We need to rise up and cast off this archaic and inefficient political construct.
4065. Steve VN | May 13, 2008 at 9:15 am
Once again, The Chicago City Council demonstrates that they are an impediment to living well in this city rather than any kind of help. These self-interested swine are useless, corrupt and out of touch with the real citizens. They are like ticks growing fat off of our life’s blood. We need to rise up and cast off this archaic and inefficient political construct.
4066. Patrese D. | May 13, 2008 at 9:15 am
Don’t take the music culture away from our city. Do not pass this ordinance.
4067. Guy F. Wicke | May 13, 2008 at 9:15 am
I strongly oppose this misguided and foolish ordinance. Please come to your senses.
Guy F. Wicke
Marketing Director
pH Productions, NFP.
4068. Gavin Rehfeldt | May 13, 2008 at 9:15 am
This ordinance must be stopped. Support Chicago’s rich performance scene!
4069. maegan welch | May 13, 2008 at 9:15 am
This ordinance would destroy the culture that is Chicago music, a culture that is affecting the global music scene directly. It’s important that this ordinance not be put into effect to save what so many people see as the glue that holds the city together.
4070. Rick Uncapher | May 13, 2008 at 9:15 am
I’ve been going to see shows and playing club gigs since 1995. Pass this ordinance and I’m out.
4071. James | May 13, 2008 at 9:15 am
As a budding Chicago actor used to working for very small theatre companies, I see this ordinance would mean death for a large part of the Chicago theatre community. It must be stopped!
4072. Kate Alpert | May 13, 2008 at 9:15 am
I am strongly opposed to this new law restricting the rights of event promoters. As an average person I have promoted and thrown lots of events throughout the years. Many of which were before my 21st birthday (this law requires all promoters be 21 or over). Planning music events not only gave me a safe and healthy activity to do, but it taught strong lessons about business, finance, promotion, and planning. Also, many of the shows promoted by myself and others helped raise money for causes, and act as civic service work along with entertainment.
More than anything else, I think this is something the politicians are REALLY overlooking. During election time a source of fund raising money is collected through grass-roots events. If this law goes into effect regular citizens will no longer have the ability to volunteer and take action in this way. I’m certainly not going to acquire $300,000.00 in liability insurance, apply and pay for a promoter’s permit, and submit to a background check, just to throw a Friday night bar event to raise money for my alderman. I’ll just stay at home and watch tv instead.
Let’s everybody consider this law as it ties the noose firmly around the necks of us all.
4073. Blair Rawlings | May 13, 2008 at 9:15 am
These may seem strange coming from someone on the other side of the world (Brisbane Queensland Australia) but when I read about this I could not stay silent. This is wrong and I don’t need to be living in the states to see that. The local band scene’s of each and every city in America and around the world hold their own special presence in the community, they are an important part of the structure. Music is an art form and one of the most prominent influences in our current society, removing the rights of small bands to do this would be outrageous and ridiculous.
Find another way to make your corporate pennies, as it was once said so well in a classic film of the 90′s ‘Damn the man! Save the empire!’ I say that we do just that. I grew up in small venues listening to local bands, these are truley great places, don’t do yourselves the disservice of being foolish enough to destroy them.
Thank you
4074. Nelson Velazquez | May 13, 2008 at 9:15 am
This ordinance is ridiculous. If there needs to be a refinement to it to target the scrupulous promoters out there, that’s fine. Open it up for debate, review, and concurrence. Otherwise, you’ve just killed every store front theatre and theatre company in Chicago.
Chicago is 3rd behind LA and New York as far as theatre is concerned. Chicago is known to be be a place where actors can hone their craft and actually work and live as an actor. A lot of shows we do are for free or for very little pay but our crucial to our overall career paths since we get to play, learn, and entertain audiences with something that has a hard time getting and retaining value. If you remove access to those actors, they will be forced to either move to another area of greater Chicagoland to put up show or crop up a lot of underground shows which then can attract more problems than not having the ordinance.
4075. DN | May 13, 2008 at 9:16 am
Once again the city failed to do it’s job at the E2.
It seems when ever the city fails to do what they should have, they pass yet another ordinance that they will most likely only enforce at their convience.
this ordinance NEEDS TO BE STOPPED!!!!!
If passed we musicians need to take our music to city hall, for some good old fashion protest.
I read that Schulter is one of the alderman behind this, why am I not suprised. Daley needs to be voted out of office before he finishes destroying the remaining culture and parks the city has left.
4076. Tricia Partlow | May 13, 2008 at 9:16 am
there are so many other issues to focus on. please don’t pass this ordinance.
4077. James McCutcheon | May 13, 2008 at 9:16 am
This bill seems like a pointless waste of time that will dearly hurt Chicago’s art scene. Hopefully, on Wednesday those in charge will have enough sense to vote against it
4078. Nat Topping | May 13, 2008 at 9:16 am
Signed,
4079. Jonathan Pekkarinen | May 13, 2008 at 9:16 am
Please don’t let government destroy one of the greatest things about the City of Chicago. It’s live music venues are reknown all over the country. Few cities rival Chicago’s musical scene which thrives on the great venues for LIVE music. Thanks.
4080. john regan | May 13, 2008 at 9:16 am
this is awful. we must vote NO for this ordinance. chicago music and the city itself is known for its independent nature. dont poison the culture of a beautiful music scene with with such a ridiculous law. please dont do this.
4081. Kevin Young | May 13, 2008 at 9:16 am
Don’t do it. People need this part of their city and home. Chicago is great. Let’s keep it that way.
4082. Monica | May 13, 2008 at 9:17 am
Please do not let this happen! As the mother of two young girls, I cherish the many cultural and artistic opportunities available to our family and others throughout our diverse city. Passing this ordinance would be devastating for Chicago.
4083. Amy Jahnke | May 13, 2008 at 9:17 am
I am also against this ordinance.
4084. Shea Earle | May 13, 2008 at 9:17 am
SIgned.
4085. Scott Bassett | May 13, 2008 at 9:17 am
The proposed ordinance has such an obvious and sinister agenda. I would hope that the Chicagoans with power and say on this matter realize how much this would culturally starve the city and how ECONOMICALLY DAMAGING this would be. Without an amazing array of live music, theater and similar events, big and especially small, Chicago may as welll relegate itself to a 2nd or 3rd rate metropolitan area along the lines of a Tampa or Oklahoma City.
4086. Amy M. Crowther | May 13, 2008 at 9:17 am
Must everything be regulated and corporatized? This web site says enough, SAVE CHICAGO CULTURE. Reject this ordinance.
4087. nyree bushnaq | May 13, 2008 at 9:18 am
vote no for this law. please dont destroy an amazing part of this city.
4088. Kevin Clarke | May 13, 2008 at 9:18 am
Please Stop This Ordinance! It is disproportionately targets emerging artists…no wonder people talk about L.A. and New York when they talk about art, music and culture…it’s policies like this that add to the artistic brain drain already endemic in this city. 2nd City…more like 5th or 6th!
4089. Lauren Campbell | May 13, 2008 at 9:18 am
Independent music and arts keep the local culture thriving. Please do not stifle it with this ordinance.
4090. Martin Wilde | May 13, 2008 at 9:18 am
Requiring such a high liability bar for all events in the city would completely stifle the vivacious music community that is Chicago.
4091. Dan Khan | May 13, 2008 at 9:19 am
Add me to the list…
4092. Sarah | May 13, 2008 at 9:19 am
this is horrble and better not pass.
4093. Stacy | May 13, 2008 at 9:19 am
I am strongly against the ordinance.
4094. Amie Dowker | May 13, 2008 at 9:19 am
I oppose this ordinance. It will limit, if not eliminate the independent music and theatre scene that Chicagoans thrive on and stifle the artists and venues that define our city’s soul. To what end?
4095. Nick | May 13, 2008 at 9:19 am
Let’s not forget the music lovers who will have to pay extra to see performers in smaller venue all this points to less revenue for for the little guy while the big boys get fat. Something aint right here. Someone needs to get slapped.
4096. Luke Jensen | May 13, 2008 at 9:19 am
I don’t think this is the real issue, which I assume has moreso to do with under the table cash, drinking, drugs, etc, and yet the city is willing to ruin, harm, and hold back positive influence, and pure good events. Most people don’t have the money for these licenses. True, that would help eliminate some of the “problems,” but it’s not going to eliminate them, therefore a different solution needs to be created to effectively target the real issue.
What about all the people that are running events for fund raisers, charity events, or talent showcases? You run a “non-profit” event, or fund raiser, and you have to pay $500-2000 to give money to the Chicago AIDS Marathon, or Children, Cancer Research, etc? The city has to realize this, and realize this is not the proper way to solve their problems with clubs, entertainment, and nightlife in Chicago.
4097. Marzenna Tomczak | May 13, 2008 at 9:19 am
In the immortal words of Susan Powter; “Stop the Insanity”.
4098. Ken Drost | May 13, 2008 at 9:20 am
This is the stupidest idea in the history of earth!!! The venues that would be affected by this are already subject to some of the strictest regulation in the U.S. Why dosesn’t the City enforce the laws that are already in place (which would have prevented the E2 disaster) instead of heaping on a bunch of expensive, unnecessary and counter-productive regulation?
4099. Amy Ochoa | May 13, 2008 at 9:20 am
I’m shocked to hear something like this would be happening in a cultural mecca like Chicago. Everyone should be against this; regardless of whether you attend events like this or not because there’s no good reason for it. STOP THE ORDINANCE!
4100. mark erickson | May 13, 2008 at 9:20 am
E2 happened years ago, and there has not been any safety issues since then that I am aware of, except for Tank Johnson’s friend getting shot). The E2 owner should not have locked exits, and a shooting is not what this law serves to protect. If this law passes, who will fingerprint people, when, and where? What is the connection between a fingerprint and unscrupulous owners who lock exits or patrons who carry a weapon?
The Chicago Fire Department should continue safety inspections. Let the fire department do their job.
Will City officials actually “inspect” a sampling of venues on a regular basis to determine compliance? The city can’t even properly oversee stairwell construction, hiring decisions, contract compliance, and an array of services that are outsourced.
I am forever grateful to not live in Chicago, but am close enough to regularly visit small clubs such as Hideout and Empty Bottle. Please, aldermen and women, do not pass this law!
4101. Matthew Golombisky | May 13, 2008 at 9:20 am
Hi, my name is Matthew Golombisky and I am a musician/composer/booking agent/independent record label director/etc. and live in Andersonville, Chicago. I moved here from New Orleans 2 ½ years ago and have become a community leader in promoting live music, creative arts and community driven events and connections. It is so hard and very unrewarding financially to be this person, to promote arts in a country that does not encourage such efforts. But people like myself persist on because we know our children, peers and those to come will appreciate learning and hearing our community’s music. It is a part of our lives, or at least should be. And it is a struggle, but many of us deal with it as best we can. Look at me, I am a full-time file clerk in the Chicago-based company, Potbelly Sandwich Works.
Please, please don’t vote in favor of this new “Event Promoter” ordinance. We’re struggling enough as it is. Help out local music! Help out the arts! Don’t let this bog down community driven artistic events!!!!
4102. Gregg | May 13, 2008 at 9:20 am
Please DO NOT PASS this ordinance! Make it easier for artists to express themselves and for the public to experience them, not more difficult.
4103. Josh Miller | May 13, 2008 at 9:21 am
Please don’t kill our vibrant storefront theatre and local music scene.
4104. Marshall Greenhouse | May 13, 2008 at 9:21 am
this aint right
4105. Jeremiah Bowman | May 13, 2008 at 9:21 am
This bill not only violates the right of free assembly but is economically stupid, especially when the city is struggling for $.
4106. max miller | May 13, 2008 at 9:21 am
please do not kill the chicago music scene. it really has a lot to live for.
max miller
4107. Nick Drake | May 13, 2008 at 9:21 am
This ordinance is asinine.
4108. Amy Elise Traver | May 13, 2008 at 9:21 am
The Chicago music scene has been a big part of my life for several years, this ordinance is ridiculous and needs to be stopped.
4109. Joey Dundale | May 13, 2008 at 9:22 am
oh jeeze, this is bad news.
4110. Chuck Przybyl | May 13, 2008 at 9:22 am
this is outrageous, events will be few and far between and covercharges are going to go through the roof.
4111. Gordon Wright | May 13, 2008 at 9:22 am
Let’s work together with the city and the many artists and performers that make this such an important hub of creativity and commerce to fix this deeply-flawed ordinance.
4112. Marc Giampietro | May 13, 2008 at 9:23 am
Has no one considered how much revenue is going to be lost if this ordinance passes? Many places will go up in smoke! Don’t let Chicago’s music scene die!
4113. Amy Elise Traver | May 13, 2008 at 9:23 am
The Chicago music scene has been a big part of my life for several years. Hopefully we can stop this ordinance.
4114. Ariel Upton | May 13, 2008 at 9:23 am
This is an outrage. As an individual who moved to Chicago based on it’s music scene, I may be tough out of luck in the days to come.
This would be a sad day for all parties involved.
4115. Cheryl Kozak | May 13, 2008 at 9:23 am
It will be a sad, sad day in Chicago if this ordinance is passed.
4116. Brian Wyat | May 13, 2008 at 9:23 am
Ridiculous! Chicago is a city for the arts and this would kill any creativity in this city.
4117. ric salazar | May 13, 2008 at 9:24 am
This is completely aweful. As a local musician, this really saddens me. How much more sterile can my hometown of chicago become. Don’t do this, our local music scene and small venues are some of the last bits of culture that Chicago still has.
4118. Kevin Clarke | May 13, 2008 at 9:24 am
Please Stop this Ordinance. It disproportionately targets emerging artists…Policies like this one are the reason Chicago isn’t mentioned in the same breath as New York or L.A. when it comes to art, music and culture. 2nd City…more like 5th or 6th!
4119. Sarah Peterson | May 13, 2008 at 9:24 am
Please do not pass this bill. The vibrance and life that makes Chicago a world city of cultural importance is dependent on the small creative groups that nurture and support creativity, bringing it to all of Chicago’s residents and visitors. Do not punish the small stuggling companies. Allow these venues to attract more people to spend more time (and money) in the city because it is great. Thank you!
4120. Joe Collier | May 13, 2008 at 9:24 am
This is ridiculous! It doesn’t even make sense as a way for the city to make money, only stifle anything that helps make it unique.
4121. PO'D | May 13, 2008 at 9:24 am
the highest sales tax in the country, soaring property taxes, incompetent public transportation, tax cuts for big businesses, Wal-Mart….now, this?! see ya later chicago.
4122. Lance Brown | May 13, 2008 at 9:24 am
Please, please vote this ordinance down. I travel the country as a performing artist and Chicago gets its fair share of criticism for corruption, high taxes, mass transit and violence in our schools. But never do I hear bad things about our cultural diversity. Instead I get “Chicago – Home of the Blues” or “We visited Chicago and found this great little club with the best band. We’ll never forget it.” or “It must be great to have so many options right at your fingertips.” Why in the world would you want to drive your artists out of town? See our beautiful city the way the rest of the world does. Address its problems. Stop creating more. We are a cultural magnet. Please keep it that way. Vote No.
4123. Bernice Lorenz | May 13, 2008 at 9:24 am
No Chicago. Don’t take this away from us. Our diverse artistic culture is something we should foster, not squelch. Please rethink the way this is being put together and make it punish the illegal promoters.
4124. Rebecca Parrish | May 13, 2008 at 9:24 am
Please do not pass this ordinance. Small independent performance is central to Chicago culture.
4125. Dan Goltz | May 13, 2008 at 9:24 am
As a resident of Chicago, involved in the music scene, I ask the city council not to pass the promoter’s ordinance. I strongly oppose!
4126. Anthony | May 13, 2008 at 9:24 am
As a passionate lover of music and creativity I believe this ordinance is unfortunate and unfair to the people of this great city. Chicago is a major city where people travel from great distances to see a play or concert. Or they come here to make it in the theater or music business. Tourists from around the world come to America to visit and see the sites. Most of them, when they think of this country, think about Chicago. This ordinance would ruin the chance for these tourists to enjoy the city in its entirity by taking in the unique culture we have here. With that in mind, our city will eventually be known for that resulting in less and less people visiting our beloved land. Many great actors and musicians have come out of this city and it hurts that creativity, WHICH IS ENCOURAGED IN OUR CHICAGO SCHOOLS, will be regulated.
4127. Amy Granzin | May 13, 2008 at 9:24 am
This is so, so wrong. As a fan of and writer about independent music, I’m strongly opposed and will definitely consider my alderman’s position on this issue when it comes time to reelect (or not reelect) him.
4128. Katie Holland | May 13, 2008 at 9:25 am
I moved to this city to live somewhere with amazing art, music….etc. This would change the city I’ve come to know and love and it would be for the worst
4129. Jon Heupel | May 13, 2008 at 9:25 am
This is an unnecessary law and should not be enacted. The clubs have business permits already that should be enough. You know who the club owner is and he is vouching for the people who are organizing shows in their venue.
As a Chicago resident I do not want this law.
4130. Lee | May 13, 2008 at 9:25 am
I DO NOT support this ordinance!
4131. Kevin Jackson | May 13, 2008 at 9:25 am
Please do not pass this unneeded ordinance. Regulations are already in place that if enforced will prevent situations like the one that occurred at E2. Keep arts alive in Chicago!
4132. Danielle Lebens | May 13, 2008 at 9:25 am
As a performer and as a resident who enjoys Chicago’s small arts venues, I strongly oppose the promoter’s ordinance.
4133. Rachel Zanders | May 13, 2008 at 9:25 am
Less culture in Chicago means fewer reasons for people to come here, whether as visitors or as residents. It seems the city could be shooting itself in the foot.
4134. Liz Tapp | May 13, 2008 at 9:25 am
This is a fast way to kill all this important and vibrant about Chicago independent culture.
The city of Chicago needs to recognize that you can’t keep a city attractive for people to live if you cripple it’s creative culture.
This ordinance is clearly not about safety, and it is a threat to all new beginnings. If the city wants to make pennies, make them where you can actually earn some real dollars instead of trying to stamp out the independent culture of a city as we know it.
4135. Megan Coleman | May 13, 2008 at 9:26 am
You can add my name to the list.
4136. Charlie Ward | May 13, 2008 at 9:26 am
It isn’t a direct censoring of art, but when you only allow the few who can afford the fee to be able to present their art, don’t you get the same result? Add me to the list.
4137. Jose Rosales | May 13, 2008 at 9:26 am
All this ordinance will do is make Chicago local bands/entertainers go underground and have shows in basements, warehouses etc. This is just another Chicago politics ploy to make money at the expense of artists and entertainers. Way to make a good show at the sub-t’s an impossible feat for local bands, and I wonder why people hate politicians!!
4138. Abby Sturges | May 13, 2008 at 9:26 am
I am strongly against the ordinance.
4139. Jason Fruy | May 13, 2008 at 9:26 am
signed
4140. Joshua Martin | May 13, 2008 at 9:26 am
Please do not limit the livelihoods so many hard working Chicagoans. This is also ultimately places a limit on the vitality of Chicago; it’s a self-defeating measure that can only homogenize and decrease Chicago’s world renowned reputation as a well spring of DIVERSE cultural activity.
Your job is to look out for the interests of ALL Chicagoans, not just the well-funded.
4141. Abigail Ramos | May 13, 2008 at 9:27 am
As a culturally-rich city with tons of world-class music events happening all the time, this proposed ordinance comes as a shock. Why would such a great city with such amazing talent want to make it difficult for its musicians to share their music with the citizens of ChiTown? Chitown is known for breeding and nurturing the world’s best musicians, and these musicians praise their great city in their lyrics and music heard the world over–with this ordinance, the musical pulse that represents the heart and soul of Chicago would die. Don’t silence our musicians!
4142. Orion Layton | May 13, 2008 at 9:27 am
Just heard the interview with Schulter on 848. He was prompted twice to explain the $500-2000 license fee but all he could say was $500 didn’t seem like much for a 2-year license. Very shady.
4143. Michelle Miracle | May 13, 2008 at 9:27 am
When I think of Chicago I think of music, art, theater & culture. If you take away music & theater you’re taking away a huge part of Chicago’s culture. I myself live in the suburbs but usually only venture into the city to go to a play or to a concert. Local bands & small theater productions bring in a lot of people from the suburbs that don’t usually come to Chicago. I don’t think the city council realizes how much revenue will be lost if they put such unnecessary restrictions on the local music & arts scene. The thought of it has already caused such an uproar & I predict a backlash. Especially for those of us who enjoy these things. If this outrageous ordinance passes I know thousands of people will no longer boost Chicago’s revenue. They will venture out to the suburbs instead. I think that the city of Chicago should concentrate more on their gang & criminal issues instead of taking away things that are POSITIVE. Going to shows/concerts/theater productions keeps people off the streets instead of doing things that are illegal. I hope that the Chicago City Council really thinks about the negative effects that this horrifying decision would have.
Michelle Miracle
Singer/songwriter/poet
4144. Polly Hansen | May 13, 2008 at 9:27 am
What does the Chicago Convention and Tourism Bureau think of this? I would think they have an investment in protecting the allure of Chicago, not destroying it.
4145. Tristan Meline | May 13, 2008 at 9:27 am
At a time when the arts–particularly music–are struggling, we should be doing what we can to aide in their recovery rather than to expedite their impending doom. Please realize that the music industry is approaching the daybreak of revolution where artists, small venues and promotors will lead the fight to take music from the industry giants, and to put it back in the hands of the artists and audience. It is therefor imperative that we do not impede their efforts with a law that returns the power to the collapsing music industry.
4146. Jeremy Smith | May 13, 2008 at 9:27 am
Congratulations! If you pass this ordinance you will officially make Chicago a “No Fun Zone Anytime”. Aren’t there more important things that the city can deal with? Do not look to local performers to help fill your tax gap.
On behalf of struggling artists everywhere,
/jeremy smith
Chicago, IL
4147. NWO | May 13, 2008 at 9:28 am
Whatever happen to freedom to assemble? HERE”S AN IDEA> BE A POLITICAL FORCE!
4148. Bret | May 13, 2008 at 9:28 am
This has got to be the dumbest idea ever for Chicago… the City Council has made some really bonehead moves in the past, but this takes the case. How could the voters (aka, the people who are going to take you OUT of office next term) possibly benefit from a scam like this? The only one who is gleaning anything out of this deal is City Hall, who feels the need to pad the coffers even more to pay for more flowers on Lake Shore Drive. STOP THE PROMOTER’S ORDINANCE!!!
4149. Thomas Hoppus | May 13, 2008 at 9:28 am
Chicago is a city full of art,don’t destroy it this way
4150. Kara Edmark | May 13, 2008 at 9:29 am
Chicago will never become the artistic powerhouse that it aims to be if this ordinance is put in place. Please think carefully about this as small venues and theaters have already begun to make Chicago proud!
4151. Arlen McCann | May 13, 2008 at 9:29 am
Don’t trash the small venues, or make them barge through more bureaucracy. I’m against these measures
4152. Frank Yang | May 13, 2008 at 9:29 am
signed.
4153. Richard Armandi | May 13, 2008 at 9:29 am
Please DO NOT pass this ordinance. It will effectively reduce Chicago to a vast cultural wasteland, destroying the very things that make this city the arts mecca it truly is.
4154. Colin Williams | May 13, 2008 at 9:29 am
NO! This is a terrible thing for the arts community of Chicago. Please do not pass this ordinance…
4155. Steven Anderson | May 13, 2008 at 9:29 am
I am a resident of Chicago and oppose the promoter ordinance. It is both idiotic and unnecessary.
4156. Emily Mueller | May 13, 2008 at 9:29 am
I do not support this ordinance. This ordinance penalizes independent musicians, the small businesses that host them, and the fans who are part of the Chicago music and arts community.
4157. Roxanne Elissague | May 13, 2008 at 9:29 am
This ordinance would ruin a good time for everyone if it passes. Please don’t let it pass.
In the words of Alex from Empire Records: “Damn the man!”
4158. Rob Frye | May 13, 2008 at 9:30 am
I can’t believe that he city would pass a law that ties artists, venues, and audiences hands so tightly behind their backs.
As an aspiring musician and someone who also works in the theatre world here in Chicago, I can see this ordinance as having a devastating effect on all of the smaller companies and bands trying to make it. Many other people like myself, young and old, come to Chicago because of the vibrant arts and culture offered here. But, if that were jeopardized, I am sure that the city on the whole would be for the worse
This represents my signature on the petition against the promoters Ordinance.
Rob Frye
4159. John Wahlund | May 13, 2008 at 9:30 am
Hands off City Council and while you’re at it keep that damn museum out of Grant Park. You should be shameful of neglecting your duties you were elected for at the expense of meddling in the worlds of arts and culture where you have no rights or expertise.
4160. Dena | May 13, 2008 at 9:30 am
Down with the promoter’s ordinance!
4161. Miguel H Gonzalez | May 13, 2008 at 9:30 am
As a performing musician who only plays for fundraising and non-profit events, I cannot fathom how this new ordinance would restrict our groups’ ability to do what we do — help causes by playing music. The effects of this proposed ordinance reach far beyond the commercial examples being discussed. It only reinforces many comments we’ve all seen – the ordinance reflects short-sightedness and political grandstanding in the wake of E3.
4162. Jeanne Weinkle | May 13, 2008 at 9:30 am
Music is the great connector, the universal language that we all understand and relate to. It is a great gift to the world and denying individuals the opportunity to express or hear it in the community is unconscionable. I understand the genesis of this ordinance but the way it was constructed is like killing a fly with a nuclear bomb. Please do not pass this ordinance and punish the artists who add so much beauty to our lives.
4163. Devon MacGregor | May 13, 2008 at 9:31 am
Ludicrous and appalling! Without the fringe arts and culture, Chicago is doomed to become a (much) colder version of Los Angeles. This ordinance will strip the city of its cultural identity. Additionally, this foolishness will affect the livelihoods of so many individuals within the city’s confines.
I am truly appalled.
4164. Chris Lamas | May 13, 2008 at 9:31 am
I say no 100% to this ordinance. It makes little sense, will definitely affect my livelihood, and possibly led to moving to a city that values the arts and independent expression.
4165. Brian Chalmers | May 13, 2008 at 9:31 am
And you wonder why it’s called the Windy City! We can’t let the cities’ politicians make the rest of the cities’ venues pay the price for the E2 tragedy. These are alarmist tactics and are not thought through in a fair way. People will lose jobs and I’ll bet in some cases, their venues all together because they can’t support these kind of infringements. As a result, Chicago will slowly start to lose it’s cultural diversity that has really made it a boon for independent artists.
The City of Chicago has no idea that they are shooting themselves in the foot with this one.
First we get Todd Stroger, now this…Dang Chicago, don’t lose your appeal! You can do better! Now scrap this and get back to work on something that will BENEFIT the city!
4166. J French | May 13, 2008 at 9:31 am
As a new Chicago resident, I think this ordinance is a step in the wrong direction. Many people are attracted to Chicago’s rich artistic culture and this ordinance is a significant impediment to that culture’s sustainability.
4167. Andrea Kearney | May 13, 2008 at 9:31 am
Re-think and re-write this ordinance. Pick the battle you are trying to win, and avoid destroying Chicago’s safe and enjoyable small venue music scene in the process.
4168. Jennifer ford | May 13, 2008 at 9:31 am
I visited Chicago a few years ago to look at some art schools and I fell in love with the artistic committee and environment that I had discovered. So then from what i can tell This committee is out to destroy all of my connection to Chicago though a few ingnorent public officials so in short I fully oppose this ordinance. look at the reputation Chicago as earned as a artistic landmark are you ready to lose that.
4169. David Garay | May 13, 2008 at 9:31 am
I do not agree with tthis ordinance and discourage its approval.
4170. Corey Lake | May 13, 2008 at 9:31 am
This bill is a waste of time. This will hurt Chicago in a huge way. Most local bands can’t even afford to get to the venue they are playing at, let alone some fee plus the cost of promotion. There are larger issues to worry about in this city.
Do not pass this, it will destroy Chicago.
4171. tom conrad | May 13, 2008 at 9:32 am
In a blue collar city, how will a growing artist make something of themselves if this is passed? You’re taking away something beautiful Chicago has to offer and dissolving a community in the performing arts.
4172. Marsen Holsopple | May 13, 2008 at 9:32 am
I think we’d be risking Chicago’s culture, community, and commerce to pass this ordinance. Let’s rethink what we really want Chicago to be.
4173. Dave Cameron | May 13, 2008 at 9:32 am
This is just ridiculous. Everyone call your aldermen and tell them this is unacceptable
4174. Holly Waterman | May 13, 2008 at 9:33 am
This ordinance, as proposed, is not beneficial to Chicago residents, visitors and artists.
4175. Ramzi | May 13, 2008 at 9:33 am
I vote “NAY” to this ordinance.
4176. Alex Schoenbrun | May 13, 2008 at 9:33 am
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4177. Martiño | May 13, 2008 at 9:33 am
I have the opportunity to be a teacher in United States last year (I am from Spain), and I found Chicago an amazing city because of all the shows I could see and the wonderful music scene of the city, which brings life, light and activity to the city’s night. I am against this ordinance, which wants Chicago to become a dark, grey and boring city. One of the things that make Chicago an attractive city for people all around the world is its music, so, please, don’t make Chicago a mediocre city…
4178. Mike Scales, CHICAGO INNERVIEW MAG | May 13, 2008 at 9:33 am
STOP THE PROMOTER’S ORDINANCE AND SAVE CHICAGO’S RICH MUSICAL AND THEATRICAL LANDSCAPE!!!
4179. Jaxen | May 13, 2008 at 9:34 am
How will any more bands get noticed if they aren’t allowed to play or can’t afford to play? Two of my very favorite bands, Fall Out Boy and The Academy Is…, first got noticed in their hometown of chicago, but are now known WORLD WIDE! When I think about the word “Chicago”, the first thought in my mind is ” Wow, their music scene has to be amazing.” I do not live anywhere remotely close to Chicago, but changing this changes the world.
Thank you,
Jaxen Strunk
4180. Matthew RM | May 13, 2008 at 9:34 am
i hope this counts as signing the petition. who the hell dreamed up this ordinance?
4181. Shane Portman | May 13, 2008 at 9:34 am
That new ordinance is not only a stupid idea, but it’s also a harmful one. Chicago thrives on independent music, theatre, and art. That’s what makes this city a Mecca for independent artists of all kinds. To kill those venues with ridiculous pricing is to kill the artists in this city.
4182. Scott | May 13, 2008 at 9:35 am
As per usual our elected officials are not speaking for us. This the most ridiculous and unnecessary piece of legislature I’ve ever heard of. It smacks of large venues and big promoters trying to squash the little guys and eliminate competition. The people that drafted this ordinance should be ashamed of themselves.
4183. Laureen Feeny | May 13, 2008 at 9:35 am
I am strongly against this ordinance.
4184. Yvette Green | May 13, 2008 at 9:35 am
I think this ordinance is really crazy. This will effect more than 50% of the artist in the chicago area. Of course, it does not affect the larger venues, but it puts a srain on artist that are trying to entertain the commmunity. The individual that cannot afford to pay $50 for some good jazz or musical grop. This should be re-visited!
4185. Ernie Deak | May 13, 2008 at 9:35 am
Complete nonsense and utter garbage. Bad for the arts, bad for business, just plain bad.
4186. Ryan Duncan | May 13, 2008 at 9:36 am
I find this ordinacne to be an outrageous infringement on the liberties of everyone involved in Chicago’s independent music community. I am the co-owner of a small record label in Chicago, and my business is extremely dependent on my artists’ ability to perform live, in front of small audiences. Members of the city council must understand that this regulation will have far reaching ramifications, and will not only hurt the promoter, but a whole network of small businesses which are vital to the character of this city.
4187. Enda McGonigle | May 13, 2008 at 9:36 am
I am totally against this ordinance
4188. Adam | May 13, 2008 at 9:36 am
This is a really, really bad idea. Some of these clubs and theaters make Chicago a truly unique place. I can’t imagine what would be gained by doing this other than make Chicago a bland boring place. Please do not allow this to happen.
4189. Hannah Wallerstein | May 13, 2008 at 9:36 am
I am so so so not okay with this
4190. Cennetta | May 13, 2008 at 9:36 am
Please add my name to the list. What would Chicago be like without it’s “culture”. The council needs to find something better to do. Snuffing out culture isn’t the way!
4191. Kyle Schlie | May 13, 2008 at 9:37 am
This won’t hurt the irresponsible promoters, but the responsible music loving community. The music scene is a large part of what makes this city great so lets not legislate it to death.
4192. stephanie mclelland | May 13, 2008 at 9:37 am
I found out about this on http://www.falloutboyrock.com, one of the biggest bands to originate from Chicago. I was outraged at this. Though I am from Ireland, which is all the way across the Atlantic, am only 13 and have never been to Chicago, its bring a lump to my throat to think of not having fall out boy in my life. If this goes ahead, who knows what great performers we will miss out on.
signed;
Stephanie Mclelland.
4193. John | May 13, 2008 at 9:37 am
If this bullshit passes City Hall, I will be more angry than Mayor Daley when he is whiny and that vein is popping through his head when he goes on one of his sanctimonius benders. I think that would scar and damage the city in ways we have yet to understand. Please hope the elected officials are working in the best interest’s of the artists and the business owners who sponsor the music which makes Chicago great.
4194. Dawn Tyler | May 13, 2008 at 9:37 am
Unacceptable.
4195. Amy Gurvis | May 13, 2008 at 9:37 am
I support local music and all it stands for; it is a huge part of what Chicago stands for and it would be a detriment to this city to lose it!
4196. Jessica St. John | May 13, 2008 at 9:38 am
As a future Chicago-resident (I hope to move there within two years), I must press upon the Common Council members how much the small-venue music/performance/art scene is an integral part of my decision to move there. I am leaving a city now that has self-imposed similar restrictions and I am taking my passion, work ethic and heart with me. I am a money-earner and a money-spender and I look forward to the chance to bring my money and my passion and determination to your fair city. If you pass this, and destroy that which makes your city unique, you will be forcing the creative, fearless risk-takers to take their plans elsewhere and your city will suffer. Please do not pass this. I want to see you soon.
4197. Julia | May 13, 2008 at 9:38 am
I’m in, we can’t let this happen.
4198. mabel nuernberg | May 13, 2008 at 9:38 am
dear wonderful city of chicago,
please do not pass this ordinance.
its chicago that i love… not carbondale!
thanks
mabel
4199. Jacob Snodgrass | May 13, 2008 at 9:38 am
i am frankly appalled by the city council’s move to pull blood from a stone. this small houses that cater to smaller, more grass roots organizations are key to an already struggling arts community. this city once did great things to support its arts groups, but following the PPA chaos about 4 or 5 years ago it has gone the other direction. with groups like broadway in chicago forcing the same old musical crap down our throats convincing the city that it is the only worth while “theater” out there. it is the small venues that have made this city known. Second City and Steppenwolf, the two best known chicago names in the international theater eye, would never have been able to exist with this kind of oppression. so just don’t do it.
4200. Jonathan Mazal | May 13, 2008 at 9:38 am
Chicagi is known for it’s phenominal indie-scene…please don’t let this suffer due to unnappropriate over-legislation.
4201. John Leen | May 13, 2008 at 9:38 am
This is a good way to keep Chicago the second city at the very least. Maybe the 25th or 26th.
4202. Alaina in 47th Ward | May 13, 2008 at 9:38 am
Please do not pass this ordinance. I’ve also written directly to my alderman.
4203. James Tomasello | May 13, 2008 at 9:38 am
this would be devastating to all ….just another chapter in little richie’s plan to squeeze the life out of working class artists….
here in big shoulders…somebody tell the council that culture involves more than metal & steel
4204. Sandra Pointer-Jones | May 13, 2008 at 9:39 am
To The Powers That Be,
PLEASE!!! Think about the rich history of Chicago’s music scene before you make this drastic step. Chicago would not be the city it is today without our wonderful music scene. Please do not slience the city!
4205. Adam El-Sharkawi | May 13, 2008 at 9:39 am
The plethora of small arts venues are the reason why I moved to Chicago in the first place. Please don’t make it any harder for artist to do their art. It’s tough enough as is.
4206. Melissa | May 13, 2008 at 9:39 am
It amazes me how much time and effort and money is spent on focusing on the wrong things in this city.
Thanks Chicago, you are about to ruin the one good thing you have to offer, a thriving cultural scene. In lieu of being able to go to a bar or club to enjoy a good show with friends, I will be loitering in your streets with a 40 in a paper bag and causing trouble, as I will have nothing better to do.
C’mon Chicago, there are hungry kids shooting eachother. Do something about THAT!
4207. ryan | May 13, 2008 at 9:39 am
I’ll move if this gets passed. This is ugly politics.
4208. Garrett & Jennifer Jennings | May 13, 2008 at 9:39 am
We agree with all the comments on this petition.
4209. greyovercoat | May 13, 2008 at 9:39 am
boo… boo. very very boo and shame on chicago. Destroying the lives of the common hard working __________ since 1837.
4210. Chris Lamas | May 13, 2008 at 9:39 am
I say no 100% to this ordinance. It makes little sense, will definitely affect my livelihood, and possibly lead to moving to a city that values the arts and independent expression.
4211. Kurt Mueller | May 13, 2008 at 9:40 am
Please do not pass this ordinance. Chicago thrives on its independent and local arts scene. To legislate the arts is to censor and condemn the little guy. Please, City Council, allow Chicago to continue as it is. Thanks.
4212. Melissa | May 13, 2008 at 9:40 am
It amazes me how much time and effort and money is spent on focusing on the wrong things in this city.
Thanks Chicago, you are about to ruin the one good thing you have to offer, a thriving cultural scene. In lieu of being able to go to a bar or club to enjoy a good show with friends, I will be loitering in your streets with a 40 in a paper bag and causing trouble, as I will have nothing better to do.
C’mon Chicago, there are hungry kids shooting each other. Do something about THAT!
4213. Kim Engelstad | May 13, 2008 at 9:40 am
I really don’t see how this ordinance would make music or concert-going “safer” for people. If safety is the issue, then work with the venues to address crowd control, design, or other “safety” issues within venues. Attacking self-employed promoters and small venues isn’t going to solve the problem.
4214. Bob Kuhn | May 13, 2008 at 9:40 am
The City of Chicago should be doing all it can to promote live music and it’s reputation as a city with a vibrant and exiting music scene. This proposed ordinance would have the effect of discouraging Chicago music. Please vote against this short sighted ordinance!
4215. Greg Carollo | May 13, 2008 at 9:40 am
Please do not let this ordinance pass. The smaller venues that will be effected are the venues that make Chicago’s music scene so attractive. Music is my life.
4216. Anne Downes | May 13, 2008 at 9:40 am
If the Chicago City Council passes this ordinance, they will kill the music, theater and arts scene in this city. Many, many residents, and many, many tourists patronize these events because the arts scene in Chicago is so vibrant. A lot of revenue for bands, artists, clubs and venues will be lost. But even more important, a lot more important, is the loss of artistic freedom. Public performances are vital to a thriving arts scene. How will we look to the rest of the country, and the world, if Chicago is seen as hostile to artists? Someone at City Council needs to wake up and realize the damage that will be done if this ordinance is passed.
4217. Jack Cunningham | May 13, 2008 at 9:40 am
This ordinance is ridiculous and should not be passed.
4218. Shayne Bell | May 13, 2008 at 9:40 am
This is a terrible bill!! Chicago prides itself on its independent and local arts scene, and this bill would absolutely kill it. I absolutely oppose this bill and discourage anyone from voting on it.
4219. Brenda Hatfield | May 13, 2008 at 9:40 am
STOP the Madness!!! Do not allow this to happen
How devestating this would be to our artistic community and the artitst who represent it.
4220. Nicole | May 13, 2008 at 9:41 am
dont take away the reason why so many people love chicago.
dont take away the places artists grew up with and dreamt of playing to a crowd in.
me, ive never been to chicago. but chicago means a lot to me and i want to visit it so bad fro that very reason, that its filled and over flowing with music.
you have no idea what yr doing.
4221. zebo | May 13, 2008 at 9:41 am
In a time of economic uncertainty this new legislation proves to be the nail in the coffin for independent music in Chicago. A city known for having one of the most eclectic and respected music industries in the whole nation.
People deal with enough stress on a day to day basis from the news, their jobs, etc… Going out and hearing music that they actually enjoy is a common way of alleviating that stress. For some others, this is their means of survival.
I am really sad about the E2 tragedy, but it was an isolated incident that happened 5 years ago. We have not had anything like it since. I do not see why our current laws do not suffice. For the city to use that tragedy as a reason to extort money from an industry that cannot afford it is just wrong.
4222. ERIK STENBERG | May 13, 2008 at 9:41 am
Here we are again backed into a corner where people want to make money from all of us for doing nothing. You figure with the way everything is headed, some dipshit politician might want to support the people and try to bulid a stronger city for chicagoans to be proud of and keep all the arts moving along within the city, which is a huge reason why chicago is cultured the way it is,
question have you ever seen equalibrium??????
4223. Erin Thompson | May 13, 2008 at 9:41 am
This is a travesty!! It is the artists of all creeds that have made this city the wonderful place it is. Artists revitalize and re-make communities. If huge mainstream bands and shows are the only ones left that can perform here, that vital artist community will leave. Chicago has made a name for itself, why would you defame it?
4224. Alyssa | May 13, 2008 at 9:41 am
STOP THE PRMOTERS ORDINANCE!
as a girl whose band came from the small time Chicago music scene, don’t let them pass this law.
let the music scene live, so more musicians and bands can rise to save lives just as my band has for me.
Peter Wentz dissapproves: http://www.friendsorenemies.com/web/foe/journals/clandestine/entry/2347561/
4225. Ryanne Baynham | May 13, 2008 at 9:41 am
please add my name in opposition to the ordinance
4226. Meredith Dodson | May 13, 2008 at 9:42 am
Chicago has one of the best music scenes in the country…this will stifle all the creative bands out there looking for their audience. Don’t do this. . .
4227. Holly H | May 13, 2008 at 9:42 am
I love the current Chicago music scene. The small venues and wide variety of artists putting on awesome, inexpensive shows make this a great city to live in and visit. Please don’t pass this ordinance.
4228. Paul R. | May 13, 2008 at 9:42 am
Inexcusable
4229. Kathleen Sachs | May 13, 2008 at 9:42 am
I go to events at the Metro, Schuba’s, the Hide Out, and other places, and I have to say that this law is an incredibly bad idea. There are other ways of preventing an E2 type disaster such as better enforcement of current laws in place. This has the capacity to stifle creative music and theater in the city. Please do not pass this into law!!
4230. John J. Buckley | May 13, 2008 at 9:42 am
The proposed ordnance is outrageous! It will make it so difficult for events to be held that it will reduce the number of shows and stifle the entire creative community, hurting all of us. I urge our lawmakers to vote this down.
4231. Vanessa | May 13, 2008 at 9:42 am
This is absurd.
4232. Jim Vendiola | May 13, 2008 at 9:42 am
This will undoubtedly destroy the great Arts culture of the city. It’s an embarassment that it’s even being considered! DO NOT PASS THIS ORDINANCE!
4233. Michael Jimenez | May 13, 2008 at 9:42 am
This is insane! Why do you always have to pick on the little guy. Especially since he is the one helping the Chicago arts scene thrive. This ordinance cannot be passed!
Signed,
Michael Jimenez
4234. Heidi Nielsen | May 13, 2008 at 9:43 am
Why are you trying to squash the little guys out? This is a country founded on freedoms and their freedom to express themselves without the hassles of the city governments should be part of that. If this does become a law then why only make the small venues have to comply? Why not have everyone who has a show at the United Center or the Rosemont have to jump through these hoops? Because they would have the money to fight your decision right? Thought so.
4235. Amber McCullough | May 13, 2008 at 9:43 am
Plainly said…THIS IS OBSURD!
4236. Chiyoko | May 13, 2008 at 9:44 am
The ordinance is unacceptable. The terms cross the line. DO NOT PASS THIS. The community and city council must create an ordinance that does NOT kill opportunity and creativity. It must effectively create standards, measures and law to keep events safe without putting artists, promoters out of business. Independent artist, businesses, venues are critical to Chicago culture. Make positive change happen now!
4237. Christine | May 13, 2008 at 9:44 am
Having friends who perform along with supporting youth to develop their creative skills, I see this ordinance as having wide spread effects that would stunt the growth of the vibrant culture here in Chicago. Considering that Chicago is the largest city in the Midwest and many States rely on Chicago for diversity and to develop their own art, we need to have venues and an environment open to receiving their gifts. Also, the cost benefit of supporting small venues is noteworthy, because it generates income for Chicago tourism and possibly long-term residents, future college students and reliable supporters of large and small Chicago businesses.
Thank you
DO NOT SUPPORT THIS ORDINANCE
4238. Laura | May 13, 2008 at 9:44 am
Hey, guys. This does have an effect on non-NFP organizations or individual artists, so that is worth protesting.
However, Gregg is right. You should note that 501c3 not-for-profit organizations are exempt as long as they are performing at a licensed venue and do their own promotions.
4239. Elaine Anderson | May 13, 2008 at 9:44 am
It would be a terrible shame if this happened! Chicago is known for its art and music scene. I have to imagine that restaurants, retailers, parking garages, etc would feel the effects bc people will stop traveling to the City. Why would they want to come to Chicago any longer when they could get the same “cultural scene” in some small town in Indiana with less expensive hotel prices!
4240. Mary Jo Penn | May 13, 2008 at 9:44 am
Chicago USA, the “second city”, Is known world wide for it’s outstanding live performances. Tours come for this. Performers lets make them filled with joy and wonder. What better message could we send?
4241. Ian Tucker | May 13, 2008 at 9:44 am
this can’t happen… it just can’t… i work, live in, and love this city… and ALOT of that has to do with the neat stuff i’m able to see in off the beaten path places…. and those places are where i’m hoping to showcase the new creative endeavors i have immersed myself in… if this ridiculousness not so cleverly disguised as an ordinance goes thru, every effort i’m making is pretty much wasted because, like alot of other artists, i’m broke… and even if i wasn’t, i’d lose money on every show because of all this… it’s that or no one on the bill is getting paid and therefore, unable to afford to continue any creative efforts… not only that, other businesses suffer… all the merch companies and web designers and anyone in the business of helping any creative entity will lose clients…
it’s bad all around…
4242. Leah | May 13, 2008 at 9:44 am
Seriously?!? An ordinance as this is completely ridiculous! How can the City Council of Chicago have something this petty to look at and debate over? I mean there are soo many more important issues for them to be focused on instead of Chicago’s Theatrical, Muscial, and general culture scenes. Why have an ordinance to diminish what has made Chicago stand out? They might as well tear down the Handcock and the Sears buildings. They really should be looking and focusing on city safety and education (amongst other things) before this outrageous ordinance.
If this ordinance is passed that would be the most asinine thing Chicago has ever done….
VOTE NO!!!!!!!
4243. DJ Barraca | May 13, 2008 at 9:44 am
Creating new regulations is not a way to make up for failing to enforce past regulations. Don’t make the city’s failure to enforce its own laws become a punishment to everyone else.
4244. Sandra Pointer-Jones | May 13, 2008 at 9:44 am
Please! Do not slience our city.
4245. Sue Oddo | May 13, 2008 at 9:44 am
This ordinance is ridiculous! This will only encourage artists/performers to do their business elsewhere and avoid the City of Chicago. This is NOT the way to stimulate the culture and economy of Chicago. There are plenty of ways to increase City revenues without impacting the diverse musical presence we have here in Chicago! It’s hard enough for the local musicans to make a living here as it is – pick on the businesses or industries with deep pockets for your increased revenues and let our local musical culture flourish!
4246. Patrick Chase | May 13, 2008 at 9:45 am
Not a big fan of this. Seriously, I know times are tough Chicago, that’s why you put in cameras at the traffic lights. But come on!!!!! This is just retarded….. Leave the Performing Arts alone. That’s one of the main reasons people come to this town.
4247. Roger Harris | May 13, 2008 at 9:45 am
Once again the powers that be are iniciating an ordinace that will damage the performance arts in Chicago. Just as music in the public schools is at an all time low now, if this ordinance passes, there will be damage to the entertainment industry in Chicago.
Please do the right thing and vote this ordinance down!
4248. Kristen Hutchinson | May 13, 2008 at 9:45 am
I am currently a student at the University of Iowa but am a Chicago native. At the university I am part of a concert production committee and I saw it as a stepping stone to get into the music business. My dream has always been to get involved in the Chicago music scene but if this law passes I am seriously going to reconsider my plans for the future. I think this law is absolutely ridiculous. One of the things Chicago is known for is the eclectic culture, the music/arts are the life-blood of this town. Why one Earth would anyone want to take that away. If this law is passed it would be like the government is stabbing Chicago in the jugular and slowly watching it bleed out until this city is dead. I don’t think these men and women have seriously considered what they are doing if they allow this law to pass.
4249. Veronica | May 13, 2008 at 9:45 am
I am against this ordinance and hope that the City Council rejects it outright. This will not only effect the local music scene, but anyone who puts on benefit concerts – which is what I do on occasion.
NO…NO…NO!!
4250. Kristy Conway | May 13, 2008 at 9:46 am
Limiting the ability to perform at will…this is ridiculous! Don’t let this happen on Wednesday or ever!
4251. Brian Beaudette | May 13, 2008 at 9:46 am
Chicago what are you thinking!? You can’t do this to young musicians who want to make their names known to the community and possibly the whole world. One reason why I enjoy going to Chicago is to attend concerts and support my friends who are part of bands. I don’t want to have to go to Chicago and all I hear are the sounds of cars and trucks. This is ridiculous.
4252. Ben Boye | May 13, 2008 at 9:46 am
This ordinance is unnecessary at best, and a total disaster at worst.
4253. LeRoy Finnigan | May 13, 2008 at 9:46 am
Chicago has such a rich musical history. How many great acts got their start in small Chicago venues? This is about more than just fighting an ordinance; it’s about preserving a great cultural heritage.
We must protect the safety of Chicago patrons, but this ordinance will drive them out to the suburbs. Chicago’s public transportation infrastructure supports and networks local venues making attendance easy and safe; no such system is found in the suburbs. We do not want to increase venue safety at the expense of highway safety.
But we do want to improve venue safety. Money is a great motivator, but we must make sure that the investment is reasonable and properly defined so that the small venues are not squeezed out of business. Insurance is not difficult to come by, but the owners must also be responsible for the safety of their patrons—they are profiting on the event too. The licensing may be appropriate for large venues, but the fees would be too great for small venues and the artists will not be able to afford them. If the purpose of the is to inspect facilities and ensure their safety, then the emphasis should be on promoting facility safety; at $ 500.00-$ 2000.00, per event, this is sounding more like a profit center than ensured safety.
4254. Stephen Pettinger | May 13, 2008 at 9:46 am
Yet another unnecessary opportunity to bring in revenue for Daley to have the financial freedom to pull stunts like the destruction of Meigs Field. The city council is making him proud on this one.
4255. Liz Krumwiede | May 13, 2008 at 9:46 am
The ordinance is vague and unclear. It seems to target independent artists and small venues. It should not be passed. Please support local music and vote NO.
4256. Vanessa | May 13, 2008 at 9:47 am
I believe in the gift of music and God gave it to all to enjoy, why take that freedom from Chicago? You work all day and night and people love to go out and listen to live entertainment though the week and on weekends. With all that’s going on with the world today we need music to keep us focus. Please don’t take that away from us too. This ordinance will cause so many of us, musicians, singer, actors, performers, promoters and all entertainer unneccessary drama in our lives. This is what we do, our gift is to entertain and we should be able to perform when and where we choose. Chicago is my home and I love it here don’t pass this ordinance people need live entertainment I know I do.
4257. Lily Mai | May 13, 2008 at 9:47 am
Do not pass this ordinance! It would hinder and counter the free flow of artistic talent and development that Chicago has contributed throughout history and has been renowned. With so many other problems and issues that Chicago faces, don’t fix something as great as Chicago’s art; it’s not broken.
4258. Anna van Slee | May 13, 2008 at 9:47 am
Music, theater and other such unique, artistic events fuel the culture that draws people to this city and keeps them here. Destroy that, and risk loosing a significant number of residents that make Chicago the great place it is. Please do not allow this to happen.
4259. Diamond Sharp | May 13, 2008 at 9:47 am
Please do not pass this ordinance. Often times these music and arts events are the only 18 and up events. They provide contructive recreation time, and an outlet for young artists like myself. This ordinance will do more harm than good.
4260. Monica | May 13, 2008 at 9:47 am
Theater people, Stop freaking out!! The Ordinance EXEMPTS not-for-profit organizations. People have every right to feel that this ordinance as written puts an unfair burden on music clubs, but you need to stick to that point. It’s bad for your cause when you completely mis-state and exaggerate what the law will do. Please read all the way down in the ordinance to section 4-157-080 (B)(9) before you call your Alderman.
It’s great to see people getting involved in City politics, but get informed before you pick up the phone to call your Alderman because when you are wrong you can completely undermine the efforts of those who DO have good reason to object to the language.
Thank you.
4261. AK | May 13, 2008 at 9:47 am
This is ridiculous, and the repercussions will be far worse than any supposed benefits.
Take the ordinance back to China, commie bastards.
4262. Lauren Dombrosky | May 13, 2008 at 9:48 am
This is a ridiculous ordinance!! Chicago would not be the same if small venues, bands and etc had to jump through so many hoops. Many places would probably just down and the talented people that live here and help make the Chicago scene what it is would probably leave to go somewhere where there is more opportunity. DON”T PASS THIS ORDINANCE>
4263. Amber McCullough | May 13, 2008 at 9:48 am
WHAT ARE THE GOALS THATS THIS LAW WOULD ACCOMPLISH? SERIOUSLY!
4264. Jeff | May 13, 2008 at 9:48 am
I live in the Philadelphia area and I heard about this ordinance. This ordinance would take away the music culture in the city. Philadelphia has such a vibrant music scene because the city is cooperative with the local promoters. The fees that this ordinance is proposing is far beyond feasbile for a local promoter or band. I’m not completely sure why this was proposed but this can not happen!
4265. Julia Pawlak | May 13, 2008 at 9:48 am
I do not support this ordinance.
4266. Elizabeth | May 13, 2008 at 9:49 am
NO NO NO NO NO.
please do not let this fly.
please.
I pray this doesn’t actually pass.
4267. Clark | May 13, 2008 at 9:49 am
100% against this. This is ridiculous.
4268. Leah Patterson | May 13, 2008 at 9:49 am
This ordinance should NOT be passed. Requiring dedicated entrepreneurial people and small organizations committed to bringing culture and vibrancy to their city to pay outrageous fees and jump through crazy hoops to do so is so very wrong. There is no way, especially in the tight economic times we are living in now, that this wont snuff out so many opportunities, dreams, and hardcore livelihoods for countless people.
I moved from Chicago because the struggle to make it as an artist as the city stands now was tiring me out – imagine what it would be like if this ordinance passed.
This represents my signature on the petition against the promotor’s ordinance!
Leah Patterson
4269. Hedda Hart | May 13, 2008 at 9:49 am
I moved to Chicago with the understanding that this city supported local art & music.
This ordinance would essentially kill the local music venues and small theaters that give Chicago its great reputation as a culturally advanced city.
WHY?
4270. Shaun Sinnott | May 13, 2008 at 9:50 am
This is essentially making it a crime for small venues to have music. Why the special pardon for larger venues? Why punish the little guy?
4271. Christian B | May 13, 2008 at 9:50 am
this is ridiculous. chicago without a vibrant local music scene would be like chicago without the cubs.
4272. Kevin Adams | May 13, 2008 at 9:50 am
This is absurd. I hope to God that this doesnt actually happen.
4273. Christian Mueller | May 13, 2008 at 9:50 am
I encourage the City Council not to pass this ordinance as presently drafted.
4274. Erika Pflederer | May 13, 2008 at 9:50 am
We have already ignorantly cut music and art from our schools. Do you really want to crush an entire city (a city, by the way, that was built on blues, jazz and improv) by curtailing one of the few things that brings us all together? Forget celebrating, creative expression or spontaneity if this ordinance is passed. It’s not just wrong; it’s offensive.
4275. David Field | May 13, 2008 at 9:50 am
I’m sure Milwaukee’s, NW Indiana, and the western suburbs appreciate the increase in business this will bring! Way to go Chicago city council —- analysis in vacuum! Let’s call this the Walmart strategy or Mel/Tillman economics!
4276. Anthony Lewellen | May 13, 2008 at 9:50 am
A lot of these posts say it better than i will. This seems like a heavy handed intrusion into what should be the right of anyone. Those behind this should be ashamed.
4277. Anthony Navarro | May 13, 2008 at 9:50 am
If you do this, you will destroy the last efforts of any small production company producing work in Chicago. From musicians to actors, from all types of directors and producers, YOU CANNOT DO THIS! I just produced an original piece at the Royal George Theatre and it was appreciated and successful. I would have never been able to do that if these rules applied. Again, YOU CANNOT TAKE AWAY OUR RIGHT TO PRODUCE!!
4278. Brian Giannone | May 13, 2008 at 9:50 am
This is the most absurd thing I have ever heard. As a passionate music fan and concert goer, the thought of how this could effect our scene is very concerning. We must put an end to this…
4279. A CZar | May 13, 2008 at 9:50 am
I am so sure tieing money up in this aspect of the industry will not turn into more scandals of money secretly funneled around in Chicago! Or how about this heinous ordinance turning out lame, only enforced arbitrarily to punish successes at the vanguard or other margins. We need freedom to follow our visions, play the way we feel it. How can these individuals be liable for anymore than supplying the club information of numbers to anticipate, numbers that may or may not be an accurate description of the case. This vague ordinance extends itself in grey water.
4280. Adam Flanczewski | May 13, 2008 at 9:51 am
Way to go–now I will have absolutely no reason to ever drive downtown again.
This ordinance should not pass for it will do nothing but wrong to the citizens of Chicago.
Signed,
Adam Flanczewski
4281. John Hanford | May 13, 2008 at 9:51 am
This is beyond BAD! Everyone call your aldermen and tell them this is unacceptable and tell them you will campaign to vote them out next election if they support this ordinance.
4282. Ryan | May 13, 2008 at 9:51 am
Don’t pass
4283. J. Wolf | May 13, 2008 at 9:51 am
To see our elected officials try and pull something like this, is just ridiculous. Why not just erase everything that ever came from Chicago in regards to music and theater?
4284. Arthur Arkush | May 13, 2008 at 9:51 am
Please add my name to petition.
This ordinance threatens a lot of the things I value most about this great city. Terrible idea.
4285. Jim Dinou | May 13, 2008 at 9:51 am
Why is there a determined effort to remove all of the
diverse, vibrant culture in this city? We are all aware that Chicago is
world-renowned for it’s brilliant music and musicians. This ordinance would critically damage that, if not kill it. How can this be motivated by anything other than greed? Let’s not turn this
into another Branson, Mo.
4286. Abigail Rajasekhar | May 13, 2008 at 9:52 am
I’m a 22 year old music business student and an aspiring professional musician graduating college this Sunday. This ordinance has shaken my life because I’ve gone to college for the last 4 years in order to thrive in the music business. I love Chicago, I love the scene, I love the creative and open atmosphere. This ordinance will be a career killer for so many venues, musicians, and artists of all types. It cannot be passed. The culture of Chicago will suffer irreparibly if all small innovative artists can no longer perform and smaller venues cannot stay open because of the outrageous cost of these promotor’s licenses. The people behind this ordinance need to stop their greed, take a look at what they are risking ruining- and back off. If this ordinance passes, creative art will leave Chicago.
4287. Christine Mladic | May 13, 2008 at 9:52 am
STOP trying to make every city the same! If we want Chicago to continue to be a unique and thriving city, we need to promote the arts and music scene, not limit it!
This is absolutely absurd. We must not let this get passed.
4288. Tony | May 13, 2008 at 9:52 am
Don’t pass this ordinance!
4289. Michael Clavelli | May 13, 2008 at 9:52 am
I’ve been playing guitar for over half my life, I have a trained singing voice, and all I want is to join or form a band, write some songs, and play out in bars and clubs. I’m having a hard enough time trying to write songs and meet musicians; I don’t need an extra hurdle just to get on stage and play. I mean no harm and it’s seldom I’ve ever seen patrons meaning harm.
There is no reason for this. I keep hearing from people about how wonderful Chicago is, and every day, I’m finding it harder and harder to agree with them. I’d hate for this to be the straw that breaks the back. Do not pass this ordinance.
4290. Bob | May 13, 2008 at 9:52 am
^What he said.
4291. Lucian Castito | May 13, 2008 at 9:52 am
Just another way for City Hall to reach into more pockets under the guise of safety.
4292. Gene Vladimirov | May 13, 2008 at 9:52 am
This ordinance can not pass.
4293. Shawnessy | May 13, 2008 at 9:53 am
Please do not silence the wonderful mix of culture in Chicago!
4294. Joe | May 13, 2008 at 9:53 am
Not sure why they would try to take away such an important part of this city, the music scene!!
4295. Amber Zumski Finke | May 13, 2008 at 9:53 am
Pretty please do NOT pass this ordinance!!!
4296. Nick | May 13, 2008 at 9:53 am
Another typical Daley ordinance… complete disregard for the people it affects, fast-track implementation, and no actual support from the city population.
4297. J Patrick Barry | May 13, 2008 at 9:53 am
Small music and small music venues are at the heart of both the local economy and local cultural scenes that make living in the city worthwhile. If you want the City of Chicago to become Naperville, then yes, absolutely keep passing these ordinances.
4298. Nostra Nebula | May 13, 2008 at 9:53 am
fight the good fight!
4299. Kristen Hutchinson | May 13, 2008 at 9:53 am
I am currently a student at the University of Iowa but am a Chicago native. At the university I am part of a concert production committee. I have seen this as being my stepping stone to get into the music business. It has been my dream for as long as I can remember to be part of the Chicago music scene. However, if this law passes I am seriously going to reconsider my future plans. This law is absolutely ridiculous. This city is known for its eclectic culture and the music/arts are the life-blood of this town. If this law is passed it would be like the government stabbing Chicago in the jugular and slowly watching it bleed out until this city is dead. Passing this law would cause so many problems for this city it’s obscene. The economy would plummet through the floor. All the music/theater/art productions that this city hosts brings in so much money and by passing this law they would be cutting off that outlet of cash flow. I hope that these men and women think long and hard about their decision and what it would mean for this great City.
4300. Matthew Killion | May 13, 2008 at 9:53 am
All the local music venues are part of what makes this city so great. It would be tragic if they went away.
4301. Elissa Laslo | May 13, 2008 at 9:53 am
Please do not pass this ordinance. Chicago’s small music venues are a huge part of what makes this city worth living in. There are plenty of clubs (Schubas, Metro, the Hide Out) who have been responsibly, safely hosting shows for years. Perhaps the aldermen and women should pay attention to how they’ve been conducting business and draft an ordinance accordingly.
Small clubs define much of what is good about the character of this city. Don’t destroy it.
4302. James Lauer | May 13, 2008 at 9:53 am
this draconian legislation and it’s obvious attempts to ‘slide one by’ the Chicago music community is simply not the right answer.
can the city of chicago truly be this narrow minded and greedy? i’ve always considered us to be living in an important and globally relevant music community and legislation such as this, regardless of it’s intentions, is simply absurd.
why make things more difficult for local chicago artists and ‘real’ music supporters? why not instead embrace them and push them to go farther?
this is nothing short of a ridiculous and completely irresponsible measure on the part of the city and at the expense of local artists and music fans…
4303. Sarah Metro | May 13, 2008 at 9:54 am
I really do not understand how this prevents another stampede or any problem on those lines. This is not solving anything and is absolutely ridiculous. This is just a restriction of artistic freedom and is another way to try and control people. This is disgusting, i am absolutely sick and tired of the city rying to get money out of people. This is unfair and it will cause Chicago to lose much of its important culture. If this goes through i for one will not stop protesting it.
4304. Kyla Thomas | May 13, 2008 at 9:54 am
As a Chicago performer and arts enthusiast I am 100% against this ordinance. Chicago’s dedication to the arts at all levels is a large portion of what drew me to the city and the main reason I make it my home. I can’t imagine this city without the many small and wonderful venues that contribute to the vast arts community. Not only is this a generally bad idea, it seems economically absurd.
4305. Christina Kavelman | May 13, 2008 at 9:54 am
Chicago’s culture is dependent upon the distinguishing features of Chicagoans everyday existence which includes associating ourselves with the arts and humanities. Regardless of the art form, we should be able to go our local venue to experience the rich mix of culture that Chicago has to offer. I am afraid that there will be so many things that everyone in this city will never be able to experience if the city council puts this ordinance in to place. I urge the city council to rethink this matter.
4306. J.R. Widen | May 13, 2008 at 9:54 am
I remember a couple years ago, how I got to move out from the suburbs to the “big city,” and how excited I was — no more having my parents drive me downtown so I could see what shows they felt were ‘worthy’ of the drive! All the venues in Chicago, at my fingertips!
I know some kids graduating high school now, or in the next year, and I hate to think that same possibility won’t be open to them — *especially* the ones who are musicians. They’re probably not going to be signing with major labels and selling out arenas anytime soon, but they’re darn good artists and I’d hate to see them stuck playing for their friends in their living rooms.
4307. Lisa Vaccarello | May 13, 2008 at 9:54 am
Please don’t pass this silly ordinance.
4308. Stolie | May 13, 2008 at 9:54 am
Man, just did an interview with Richard Milne on WXRT about how awesome it is being a full time musician in Chicago… Where is the list of reasons why this is a good idea?
4309. Matt Radcliff | May 13, 2008 at 9:54 am
The thriving independent music scene in Chicago is one of the last great things about this city. As a lifelong resident of Chicago, I am wholeheartedly against this ordinance.
4310. Tony Soto | May 13, 2008 at 9:55 am
speaking as a director in chicago, i would be and injustice for this ordinace to pass.
4311. Jessica | May 13, 2008 at 9:55 am
I am against and do not support this ordinance!
4312. Hannah Crawford | May 13, 2008 at 9:55 am
Chicago has a brilliant musical culture, and so many of it’s bands are shaping the face of music at the moment, why stop new bands and acts being able to break into music big-time? How can people become bigger if they can’t start out small?
Please don’t pass this.
4313. Jenny Delaney | May 13, 2008 at 9:55 am
If this ordinance passes, Chicago’s thriving music scene will be completely halted. Is the city doing this for the money? If so, they’re driving away hard working, tax paying band members (citizens) to different cities where their music can be heard! The great majority of these citizens cannot afford this ordinance and I’m certain venue owners are struggling enough due to smoking bans, etc. They will be forced to shut down. This will leave abandoned buildings and some of them are historic landmarks! Again, this kills tax revenue and tourism, as well! All of the citizens who frequent venues and theaters will be forced to seek entertainment elsewhere, too. The city is hurting itself and those that moved here for the amazing culture, like me! DEVESTATING IMPACT! This ordinance will kill businesses, bands, and dreams. I guess you really do “gotta fight for your right to party!” We’re ready to fight or we’re moving!
Personally, this will negatively affect 30+ friends and family in my community alone. Please vote NO for this ordinance.
4314. Beth | May 13, 2008 at 9:55 am
VOTE NO! Keep the Chicago music scene and small venues alive and thriving!
4315. Schuyler Smith | May 13, 2008 at 9:56 am
Why regulate this in such a way? No way. Aldermen, vote this down!
4316. Shawnessy | May 13, 2008 at 9:56 am
Please do not silence the wonderful mix of culture in Chicago.
4317. Jeff Stevenson | May 13, 2008 at 9:56 am
As Someone who loves the Chicago music scene, I strongly oppose a measure that so unreasonably burdens a vital cultural resource.
4318. Dave Zibell | May 13, 2008 at 9:56 am
I’m against this ordinance, please do not vote to pass. A group of angry musicgoers is not what this city needs these days.
4319. Madison | May 13, 2008 at 9:56 am
I think that the Chcicago Music is a big part of alot of bands success. I’m not just pointing out Fall Out Boy because of their popularity at the moment..but i mean they started in Chicago. Their hearts are in Chicago. The boys in that band all had their beginnings in chicago. I can’t believe that something so amazing as the music culture is being messed with. Things should be left alone and kept the same as they always have been. People dont understand what some things mean to some people. This is another PRIME example of how people are just trying to control everyone else. SERIOUSLY? get over your selves and leave the music scene ALONE!
4320. Pillars | May 13, 2008 at 9:56 am
I oppose this ordinance. Vote no!
4321. jules | May 13, 2008 at 9:56 am
seems to me that if the city feels strongly about this they should find a way to make it happen without putting all the financial stress on the businesses themselves. it’s a great idea to be insured, but there has got to be some sort of scale and ease of implementation. let’s be smart about our city and put all this effort into making negotiation and new ideas possible. maybe there is a way to create more jobs and flow through this whole thing.
4322. Stephen | May 13, 2008 at 9:56 am
This ordinance is will only serve to stifle the abundant expression of music, art, and culture in that currently thrives in this great city of ours. Please do not let it pass!!
4323. Rob | May 13, 2008 at 9:56 am
Please vote NO!
4324. Darius Savage | May 13, 2008 at 9:57 am
This ordinance will eviscerate the performing arts scene in Chicago, causing any artists who can to flee the region for NY, etc, as well as eradicating many of the reasons people move here in the first place. Not to mention that professional artist will have a VERY hard time making a living. This ordinance must not pass!!!
4325. Tom | May 13, 2008 at 9:57 am
This is just a bad, bad, law, maybe if this gets passed the independent musicians could play at the new Children’s Museum at Grant Park
4326. Billy Kramer | May 13, 2008 at 9:57 am
As an aspiring entertainment attorney, musician, and long time patron of the arts, I have to say that this is one of the dumbest pieces of legislative crap I’ve ever witnessed…and I live in Chicago, which says a lot.
I find it hard to believe that the sponsors of this ordinance actually talked to anyone in the industry that doesn’t have a financial interest in seeing this legislation through (i.e. large venues). Any U of C economist could tell you that the city will actually LOSE REVENUE through this law as opposed to gaining it due to the foreseeable losses in incidental taxes associated with small venues such as on alcohol sales. This is another example of a half-baked scheme for the government to try and collect more money, where in fact, they will actually lose it in the long run by destroying business (and thus taxable transactions). The interviewee on NPR this morning said he talked to “responsible promoters” (read: financially-interested, large venue operators) and couldn’t understand why there was so much opposition to this ordinance. Really? I mean…really?
Unbelievable.
Chicago is just starting to get world attention as a center of the arts, particularly with music and theater (there was was a piece in The Economist a few years ago, in fact), and now this ordinance rears its ugly head to counter the decades of progress that artists and patrons have made here.
Just wow.
4327. R | May 13, 2008 at 9:57 am
No.
4328. Ian Tucker | May 13, 2008 at 9:57 am
this can’t happen…
it’s not only the venues and artists that are effected… what about the t-shirt companies, web masters, cd duplicators, art supply stores, music shoppes…?
if this passes, anyone in the business of helping artists do what they do will lose business and anyone trying to create something positive out of very little are essentially being told they’re wasting their time doing anything creative in this town…
4329. Madison | May 13, 2008 at 9:57 am
VOTE NO! this is ridiculous.
im completely against this ordinance.
4330. HunnyBunny | May 13, 2008 at 9:57 am
I encourage those individuals that are looking to pass this ordinance to take the time to visit one of the small clubs or theaters and take in a show before voting on this ordinance. It would be a true shame to lose all of the creative freedom that makes this city what it is.
4331. Jean SmilingCoyote | May 13, 2008 at 9:58 am
Add my name to this protest.
4332. Megan Ensign | May 13, 2008 at 9:58 am
I don’t support this ordinance. There has to be another solution.
4333. Joyce | May 13, 2008 at 9:58 am
Common, Twista, Atmopshere, Fall Out Boy, Chevelle, to name a few are homebound to Chicago. It makes me wonder if these awesome performers can originate from Chicago, and if this “awesomely bad” ordinance is passed, who are we going to miss out on in the future??
4334. Dan | May 13, 2008 at 9:58 am
weak sauce.
4335. Adam Noble | May 13, 2008 at 9:58 am
Please stop this ordinance before it passes.
I am a 20 year old student and I live for music.
I fully appreciate the vibrant musical culture that Chicago has to offer, and if this ordinance is pushed into law I know that a large group of people will be affected in a very negative way.
This will cripple the creative freedoms of not only the youth, but also the underprivileged, of the city of Chicago.
4336. andy rourke | May 13, 2008 at 9:58 am
I would not even begin to imagine Chicago with out its musical culture. When people come to the city the come for the food and music. This includes all the small blues and rock bands that directly add to this cities attractions. You take away these peoples right to perform then that directly affect the attraction to our city. In turn that not only affects the people but the city itself.
4337. K. Leigh | May 13, 2008 at 9:58 am
I strongly urge all alderman to reconsider the wisdom of yet another hastily drafted, politically driven proposed ordinance that will have far-reaching negative consequences while simultaneously failing to acheive the desired result. Think before you act for once!
4338. kelly sindowski | May 13, 2008 at 9:58 am
Imagine the many great voices and talents not just Chicago but the world could miss out on by passing this!
4339. Joyce | May 13, 2008 at 9:58 am
Common, Twista, Atmopshere, Fall Out Boy, Chevelle, to name a few are homebound to Chicago. It makes me wonder if these awesome performers can originate from Chicago, and if this “awesomely bad” ordinance is passed, who are we going to miss out on in the future??
This is soo stupid!
4340. James Andre | May 13, 2008 at 9:58 am
I am a Chicago filmmaker and have been working in the indy film market for 18 years.
I’m finnally making my first indy feature here in Chicago.
The city seems to want me to bring new work here by adding incentives to work here but if this odinance passes it seems like it can only pave the way for artists of any type to be taxed and held down creatively.
Why don’t we instead, create more programs that nourish the artist scenes so that they can make more money and subsequently create more artists who bring in bigger venues.
Wouldn’t you like to continue knowing that you are helping create the best and the brightest?
4341. Jason Horine | May 13, 2008 at 9:59 am
As a Chicago resident (and registered voter) I am wholeheartedly against this ordinance. The culture of this vibrant city depends on the freedom for artists to have an outlet. Please do not deny them that opportunity.
4342. Daniel Shock | May 13, 2008 at 9:59 am
Please protect Chicago art and culture. And don’t do it by hurting the little guy.
4343. Nicki Geschke | May 13, 2008 at 9:59 am
This ordinance, in it’s present wording and state, will surely drive the music and arts community that has grown so largely right out of Chicago. It is horrible enough that musicians and artists fight daily to keep the arts abundant in our school systems, to remind younger generations that creativity is not something that should be stifled, but embraced.
Chicago has been know for it’s rich entertainment atmosphere for decades and to punish striving, up and coming artists because of the small percentage of illegal business practices is sure to be the death of the music and arts industry here. Artists pay prices already to put on shows in travel and equipment expenses, but we do it to get our names out there and enrich other’s lives. If this ordinance is passed, Chicago will become a quiet and mundane city, with sounds only of sirens, traffic, and sports fans.
Hear our voices and understand that taking away such an influential part of the city will certainly damage the beautiful community so many great artists have worked so hard to make flourish…
4344. Kevin | May 13, 2008 at 9:59 am
The logic behind this is weak at best and corrupt at worst.
4345. BADP | May 13, 2008 at 9:59 am
Is there A PETITION, that we can actually sign and have one of us deliver it to these morons before Wednesday’s vote?
But really, how far will we allow these corrupt and out-of-touch idiots to go?
The most disturbing part is that we are paying their salaries through taxes and an abundance of other fees… So with other words, we are financing and seemingly accepting their ways of coming up with more and more ways to screw us in every imaginable way possible (especially financially).
Somebody Please, Let Us ALL Know Where To Go To SIGN A PETITION!!!
4346. E.W. | May 13, 2008 at 9:59 am
So much for giving smaller, local bands a chance. What’s next? Quashing local festivals, theaters? Chicago is great because of its local culture. This ordinance will just be the beginning of the end…
4347. Brittney | May 13, 2008 at 9:59 am
Please protect Chicago’s vibrant music and cultural scene and DO NOT pass this ordinance. This city is one of the most unique in this country and this ordinance would take that away in a moment. Please allow us to continue to enjoy the many great bands, venues, events this lovely city has to offer.
4348. Ryan Collins | May 13, 2008 at 10:00 am
I don’t understand why an ordinance such as this is even under consideration. All this will do is to limit the opportunities available to musicians & performers and limit the number of venues available to the public. I would hope that upon further examination that this ordinance will be turned down & that similar attempts will be discouraged. Unless Chicago wants to have an international reputation as being a place where there are no equal opportunities for the arts. Shame on the people who would present such restrictions! I would be embarased for the city were this to pass, and would not want to live here.
4349. Calliope Porter | May 13, 2008 at 10:00 am
Art in Chicago has been nurtured by the freedom to create. Without that ability, this unique community and culture will suffer. And I don’t think I would live here anymore.
4350. Dianne | May 13, 2008 at 10:00 am
I live in Chicago and love this city for the rich artistic community. Going to shows is a major part of my lifestyle. Pass this ordinance and not only do you force the amazing musicians out of this town but their fans will follow . . . fans who put up with paying over 9% sales tax and ridiculous property taxes to live here. A city without a vibrant music scene is NOT a city I want to live in.
4351. Pat Curtis | May 13, 2008 at 10:00 am
This proposal is ridiculous. If approved, it would be enough for me to move out of Chicago. Hello Cleveland!
4352. Marni Lewis | May 13, 2008 at 10:00 am
I am strongly opposed to this ordinance. Please do not take away one of the elements that makes Chicago the city we love.
4353. The Indie Band Survival Guide » Blog Archive » Save Live Music In Chicago | May 13, 2008 at 10:00 am
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4354. Nick Wainwright | May 13, 2008 at 10:00 am
As a travelling musician hearing news like this is a stab at what I would call my main bread earner. So taking the ability to promote shows in a wonderful city as Chicago without the use of permits is going to crush the thriving underground/aboveground music cultures that exist. So please, please do not do this to your city! Where I am from we have similar guidelines and there is NOTHING ever happening here now due to this and the people who enforce this absurd law. PLEASE DO NOT DO THIS TO YOUR ARTISTS CULTURES OF YOUR CITY!!!!!
4355. james | May 13, 2008 at 10:01 am
this is a bunch of crap, what happened to this city’s pride in its underground music and arts scene !!
4356. Mike S. | May 13, 2008 at 10:01 am
This law is aweful!!! It’s just another way the City of Chicago can gain revenue to pay thier bloted salaries. Enough already!
4357. Ryan Anderson | May 13, 2008 at 10:01 am
This is insane.
4358. Vanessa Sanchez | May 13, 2008 at 10:01 am
Do not pass this law!
4359. Alyse Hersh | May 13, 2008 at 10:01 am
I am in strong disagreement with this ordinance!
4360. Cptn. Crunch B. Aries | May 13, 2008 at 10:01 am
*shake head* what a rediculous attempt at a law. I’m sure art isn’t nearly as pressing a topic as homeless and poverty.
4361. Bruce Mattey | May 13, 2008 at 10:01 am
The City has to rethink this issue.
Additional costs for this sort of thing is just not neseccary.
Soon people will be priced out of Chgo. because of proposed parking fees. Now you propose to place a fee which would have adverse effect on many musicians.
Promoters will just take the music to another Town /City.
And what will be ledft here?
Just considering this ordinance is WRONG.
Don’t do this to Chicago musicians the venues or the fans.
4362. Jerry Rinard | May 13, 2008 at 10:02 am
Say no to the knee-jerk policies of an overly-litigious society.
4363. Justin Sante | May 13, 2008 at 10:02 am
Chicago is starved for money, just like most other cities and states during the Bush years, and now they’re digging in the couch for change. Cooler heads in city government should realize that in a few years, once most of the federal crises are cleaned up, particularly the immense war and health care money drains, the pressure will start to ease. When this happens, will the Chicago music scene have been forever dampened by a small-scale and thoughtless money grab?
4364. Tracy Skorupski | May 13, 2008 at 10:02 am
It’s absolutely ridiculous that they want to stifle the music industry in a city such as Chicago. Don’t they realize that not only will this affect budding musicians and dwindle the amount of shows for those who support the Chicago music scene, but that additionally this will affect the local businesses in the areas surrounding these venues?
It’s a shame that this city is so focused on bleeding people dry monetarily that the whole personality of the city is being drained as well.
4365. Brent DiCrescenzo | May 13, 2008 at 10:02 am
Not only will the cripple underground music, the ordinance is vague enough to hamstring theater, comedy, art, dance and any other live performance deemed “risky.”
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4367. Adam | May 13, 2008 at 10:03 am
It is ironic that just as Chicago is preening itself for the Olympic committee, the city council is poised to take a measure such as this to deliver potentially irreperable damge to our arts community and overall quality of life. If they are trying to rob this city and its citizens of some of its most vibrant and creative voices, harm our small business owners and cultural entrepreneurs , and make us out as a backwoods town of philistnes the city council should by all means proceed with this horrendous plan.
4368. Sharon Ferguson | May 13, 2008 at 10:03 am
Please stop this ordinance!!!! This ordinance will destroy the Chicago Cultural Scene.
4369. Tom Kompare | May 13, 2008 at 10:03 am
While I understand the intent of the ordinance and licensing in the wake of the event tragedies in years past, I do however think the bar is set too high for many, many performers in Chicago. The license fee alone is an undo burden on self-promoted performers who, in many instances, perform in exchange for just being able to perform their art at a public venue. This high fee seems to formulated simply to bring in more revenue to the City, without regard to whom it is targeted.
I also think that fingerprinting is an completely unnecessary invasion of privacy. The ordinance could easily substitute a photocopy of ones state issued photo ID for the fingerprint requirement.
4370. Christopher Ash | May 13, 2008 at 10:04 am
Art is not always planned, and nearly never funded. If you think that stopping people from creative impulses and making all underground art is helping people, then you are extremely misguided. You are in effect eliminating everything that makes the chicago art scene unique. Forget about the thriving art scene in pilsen, and the reputation for music that this city has, I’m sorry that those who are making the laws can’t seem to be able to appreciate the beauty of which they are destroying.
4371. Will Petty | May 13, 2008 at 10:04 am
I support live music in Chicago and I oppose the Chicago Promoters Ordinance.
4372. L. Prodromo | May 13, 2008 at 10:05 am
Protect the arts and culture.
4373. Leigh Gilkey | May 13, 2008 at 10:05 am
it is truly amazing what issues councils choose to focus on that are not for the good of the community. this destroys culture and authenticity of chicago’s pulse. vote no
4374. Audrey Sebastiano | May 13, 2008 at 10:05 am
As a graduate of and “promoter” for Columbia College Chicago, this ordinance not only limits the functionality of venues and artists in the Chicagoland area, but plain DOES NOT MAKE SENSE! Anyone who knows ANYTHING about PR, Marketing and Promoting knows that the best promotion is WORD OF MOUTH. How then can we let this ordinance pass when it is, in fact, violationg our right to Freedom of Speech? Yes, that’s right, folks. The creators of this City Ordinance want to put black tape on the lips of those who speak of an event/ amusement going on in the City of Chicago when it is not even proven how many can be reached by word of mouth “promoting.”
With the Promotor’s Ordinance, essentially, if you do not “pay to play” you cannot even “spread the word” about your own garage band!! Isn’t this what our economy and country thrives on? “The American Dream”- from being a nobody to being a Big Somebody. How can us ‘nobody’s’ in the Art world get there without the ever so present and yet intangible word-of-mouth-promoting??
And speaking of feeling violated: the mention of the concept of being finger-printed like you’re a criminal for wanting to spread Creativity, Art, and Culture in a City that has THRIVED on ALL of these for over 100 years, is absolute absurdity! Let’s limit the prejudice, negativity and mis-understandings against the art scene, and start promoting our fading economy through special events, concerts and arts performances that lift us up emotionally, spiritually and economically in this time of recession. Let’s promote our Right to Freedom of Speech, including event promotion, here in our, “sweet home, Chicago.”
4375. Alys Williams. | May 13, 2008 at 10:05 am
This is really really ridiculous.
VOTE NO.
NO.
Yes, that’s right, vote NO.
4376. Melissa Hancock | May 13, 2008 at 10:05 am
Listen to what we are saying. Do what government is supposed to do and represent us.
4377. Andrew | May 13, 2008 at 10:06 am
Please do not pass this ordinance. It is hastily put together, and will only damage Chicago’s music scene which is such a vital part of this city’s culture.
4378. AJT | May 13, 2008 at 10:06 am
This is a ridiculous ordinance that will stifle great young artists that try to play Chicago and will hinder the propogation of very important music that doesn’t otherwise have a mainstream video or radio outlet. VOTE IT DOWN.
4379. Andy Fitz | May 13, 2008 at 10:06 am
I wholeheartedly OPPOSE this ordinance. There are enough hoops to jump through at City Hall already.
4380. Mark Riva | May 13, 2008 at 10:06 am
This reaches far beyond the domain of the arts. All it would do is feed the corporatization of the cultural landscape and its consolidation into the hands of fewer and fewer power brokers, the majority who are more and more bereft of authentic creativity that speaks truth to power and only serving the almighty mainstream dollar. Culture happens from the grass-roots up. It is the glue that holds all the disparate Bohemian pieces that make Chicago unique. A law like this would effectively destroy those precious roots and effectively complete the Vegasizing of Chicago; a landscape completely dominated by billion dollar Digital-Military-Industrial-Entertainment conglomerates that continue to merge into larger and larger faceless forces. Young Creatives, so essential for the innovation at the heart of any area (see Richard Florida’s work), would leave in droves. It would be suicidal and have immediate and irreversible implications for the health and welfare of our great city. Stop the madness!
4381. Tom Ewald | May 13, 2008 at 10:06 am
Passing the proposal as written will have a serious negative effect on the local music community.
4382. Paul Fitzgerald | May 13, 2008 at 10:06 am
Pleae do not pass this ordinance. So many neighborhoods are already lacking public spaces for performance and this may run the rest of the out of business or dangerously underground.
4383. Tomas Satas | May 13, 2008 at 10:07 am
I feel extremely insulted by the fact that the mayor and aldermen, who we vote for, are constantly trying to sneak unconstitutional legislation past us taxpayers! Maybe it is time for a regime change?
4384. Sean Skyler | May 13, 2008 at 10:07 am
There is a reason so many great artists come from Chicago, and its because of the open forum community thats been established. You put restrictions on self expression, and you will tarnish a great history and even brighter future for arts in Chicago.
Facists.
4385. Dan Perez | May 13, 2008 at 10:07 am
Why punish the whole city with these ridiculous ordinances of such. It’s hard enough attracting movie makers to film here in this beautiful city because of it’s expensive fees. Now we are setting to scare everyone else away from doing anything in this city. Well, there’s always New York or LA, right ! I’m sure those cities are more welcoming to artist, large or small ! “You Shall Not Pass!”
4386. Steve Bauer | May 13, 2008 at 10:08 am
Chicago has one of the best music scenes in the country. Don’t let politicians screw it up.
4387. R. Johnston | May 13, 2008 at 10:08 am
I strongly oppose this ordinance.
4388. Gruenetsig | May 13, 2008 at 10:08 am
So let me get this straight: with 36 people shot and 9 dead over a single weekend, you decide to attack the artists?
4389. Lisa Rotiroti | May 13, 2008 at 10:08 am
Chicago needs to do More to SUPPORT it’s artists and musicians Not make it even MORE difficult for us.
4390. Amy E. | May 13, 2008 at 10:08 am
This is ridiculous, so much for promoting up and coming Chicago bands
4391. Nicole | May 13, 2008 at 10:08 am
There are already enough laws in place circulating events, and yet another one? I oppose this ordinance.
4392. Elliot Green | May 13, 2008 at 10:09 am
Please Chicago don’t take away my favorite thing about you………
4393. Brian E. Szumsky | May 13, 2008 at 10:09 am
As a lifelong musician and music lover, I ask that the city council of Chicago reconsider this ordinance. The potential damage that may be caused by this vaguely worded law is incalculable. As I am sure that every member of the council values the cultural and entertainment diversity of Chicago, I trust that your vote on May 14 will preserve the unfettered expression of the performing arts in our great city.
4394. Dominic Green | May 13, 2008 at 10:09 am
I can see the future -
“Chicago! Used to be home of the Blues..!”
VETO
4395. TIM SEELEY | May 13, 2008 at 10:09 am
I support theatre and music in Chicago and oppose the Chicago Promoter’s Ordinance.
T
4396. Stephen Powaga | May 13, 2008 at 10:10 am
Basically the only thing making Chicago livable in the winter is the music and theater scene, if this is passed and the music/theater scene is killed Chicago will see an sizable exodus of talented creative individuals. Certianly this will not be helpful for the tax base. Passing this ordinance will have wide ranging unintended consequences only serving to weaken this city. Hello Detroit II.
4397. Hop | May 13, 2008 at 10:11 am
BOO! Stop the ordinance.
4398. Jon B. | May 13, 2008 at 10:11 am
This is outrageous and capitalistic… this ordinance aims to destroy to the very thing that is special about the north side neighborhoods of Chicago. The youth and culture of the northside is a critical piece of the success and prosperity of this city – don’t take a step to destroy that over a few dollars.
4399. Jeff Daschbach | May 13, 2008 at 10:11 am
No way.
4400. Michell James | May 13, 2008 at 10:11 am
I think this is absolutely ridiculous that they could even consider crushing the dreams of Chicago’s musicians and fans all for the sake of a buck!
I DO NOT AGREE WITH THIS ORDINANCE.
4401. Luke Coleman | May 13, 2008 at 10:11 am
This ordinance hurts the local music scene, which is one of the reasons I moved to chicago. It makes organizing musical events near impossible for smaller promoters. Please do not let this pass.
4402. Janis White | May 13, 2008 at 10:11 am
Please stop regulating us to death. Let the Chicago music scene breathe. I am opposed to this ordinance.
4403. sonja drummond | May 13, 2008 at 10:11 am
this is probably the most assbackwards thing ive ever heard.
someone please do something!
4404. universoulproductions | May 13, 2008 at 10:11 am
This ordinance will start by eliminating a large number of events that people come to the city for. Which, for many, is the reason they live in or come to the city in the first place.
This also becomes a small economic problem as less people go out, less money is being spent and exchanged. The venues suffer, the artists suffer, the promoters, and the fans.
So now, you’re losing money and people coming into the city and those people are quickly building additional animosity towards the city as a whole and especially it’s law enforcement.
Next, the entire culture of the company begins to diminish.
I claim Chicago as my favorite city often, but the reason for that is because there is so much culture in a relatively concentrated area that you can find the entertainment you like without going to far.
Chicago is known for some legendary musicians. You can kiss those future musicians good bye if they are not able to build a core audience through hundreds of shows.
This ordinance is a huge slap in the face to all culture lovers. It says to them that the city doesn’t care at all about you, it just want to control everything and create new opportunities for law enforcement and fining.
What an awful place to live that would be. At this very moment, I am extremely thankful I do not live in a city as hateful, cold, and heartless.
4405. Stephen Ramsdell | May 13, 2008 at 10:11 am
This ordinance would be fatal to the scene for young and developing musicians.
4406. Mike Holbrook | May 13, 2008 at 10:11 am
Club shows are what make this city great! The opportunity to see a band in an intimate setting is something that makes Chicago special.
4407. Jen Zias | May 13, 2008 at 10:12 am
What a nightmare for Chicago’s musicians this ordinance will be if passed. As a working musician, most of my jobs are self-booked or through small booking agents. The required promoter fee and applicable insurance will completely kill our small businesses and make it impossible to work in this city that we love!
4408. Gabriel Ransenberg | May 13, 2008 at 10:12 am
I moved to chicago for the music scene. If this passes it will put small clubs out of business and mean I’m moving to Austin.
Gabriel Ransenberg
4409. Jalene Primus | May 13, 2008 at 10:12 am
I am opposed to this ordinance.
4410. tiffany Smith | May 13, 2008 at 10:12 am
I moved to Chicago for the creatively free and easy atmosphere. If we make it harder for performers- we make this town culturally stifled- this cannot happen.
4411. Josh Lindner | May 13, 2008 at 10:12 am
This is perhaps one of the most ridiculous ordinances I’ve ever heard of. Talk about the city trying to take advantage and line their pockets with some additional cash.
As the touring business is already hurting because of the economy, now they want to saddle the promoters with additional fees?! Their bottom-lines are already hurting.
This would certainly impact business at smaller clubs and venues for sure. We’re seeing venues around the country having to close up because of the economy…and this will just speed up the demise of what makes the music scene in Chicago so diverse and varied.
4412. Brenda | May 13, 2008 at 10:12 am
This is insane! As a person that goes to these venues to enjoy the diverse artistic scene in Chicago, this ordinance will take us back to the dark ages. We, as Chicagoans, have always embraced the arts, and to pass this type of ordinance will surely be the demise of the Chicago we know and love. We have always stood behind our artists, walk into any club or dive bar in the city, and even restaurants, you have independent performers who are giving part of themselves in their art for others to appreciate. We have always been among the top cities in the US for artists, we have always been comparable, if not surpass places like New York and Hollywood because CHICAGO is where it starts and CHICAGO is the one that encourages. To pass this ordnance will kill the spirit that makes Chicago great. Please, do not pass this ordinance, as a lover of Chicago and always wanting the best for Chicago, this will be our downfall, this will spiral us into obscurity, and WE, as the people of this great city will not stand by idly and let you take away our greatness!
4413. Dan Henrick | May 13, 2008 at 10:12 am
Please don’t pass this ordinance. It’s the equivalent of lopping off an arm to remove a hang-nail. The tragedy at E2 was horrible, but this is a misguided, stifling and ridiculous measure. You’ll be doing irreparable harm to the community. Please do not pass this ordinance!
4414. Micah Boon | May 13, 2008 at 10:13 am
OUTRAGEOUS!!! I strongly oppose the ordinance!
4415. Mark Ingram | May 13, 2008 at 10:13 am
To pass such legislation shows the lack of sensitivity from some our local leaders. It would be a travesty to the Chicago cultural community. Especially during the state of today’s economy, many of our local artists depend on these small venues for their livelihoods. This is definitely an attempt by a few narrow-minded alderpersons who do not value, nor know the value of the arts in our communities and the positive effects they have on its cultural diversity, education, tourism, and the economy. We should target those politicians who are sponsoring these bills and go on a campaign to remove them from their respective offices.
4416. Dawn Greer | May 13, 2008 at 10:13 am
If there could be an ordinance more idiotic than a fois gras ban and open to national (if not global) ridicule, it is this one. This is obscene. If it passes it’s also my ticket OUT of the City of Chicago (my home since…um…BIRTH).
4417. Animate Objects | May 13, 2008 at 10:13 am
The local music community would be happy to work with local law-makers in drafting a thoughtful, comprehensive and mutually beneficial law regarding event promotions. However, the city appears bent on pushing through their own slap-dash, big-business agenda without regard for the people that make our under-appreciated music scene one of the best in the country. The entrepreneurs, the tireless bands and fans, the non-profit benefit promoters who want to raise money for a good cause if even just for one great show for a handful of people at [insert small local club name here]. We have a vibrant local music scene that isn’t completely beholden to the rich, profit-seeking Clear Channels and Ticketmasters and Live Nations of the world. Let’s support a safe local music scene without putting a huge financial burden on those who love to nurture new, niche music.
4418. BADP | May 13, 2008 at 10:13 am
Is there an Online PETITION somewhere, that WE ALL could actually SIGN before Wednesday, to stop these Morons from screwing us again?
4419. Claire McPartlin | May 13, 2008 at 10:13 am
Given the direct and devastating impact this is going to have on the local music scene, and the extended impact on the entire economy of the city, I cannot imagine what the City Council Committee is thinking. Chicago is a city with a rich, vast and varied cultural character; this is why our residents live here, this is why our tourists visit. Perhaps they don’t care about the music scene they’re trying to quash, but you would think that the City Council would try to envision the effect they’re about to create on their own reputations and wallets.
4420. Man Bartlett | May 13, 2008 at 10:13 am
I oppose this ordinance.
4421. Jared Conway | May 13, 2008 at 10:13 am
I oppose this ordinance.
4422. Ryan | May 13, 2008 at 10:13 am
Chicago is a world class city. The music scene is this city is one of the best in the country, if not the world. Let’s keep it that way. DO NOT PASS THIS ORDINANCE!
4423. Tim Fawkes | May 13, 2008 at 10:14 am
It is unfortunate that a terrible tragedy several years ago at a nightclub is leading to this misguided reaction by the City Council. The ordinance adds enough financial constraints to stifle independent music and theater productions without necessarily adding any effective oversight to the management of venues.
Most economists will confirm that the vibrance of a city’s cultural scene has a direct impact on the economic health of the city. The Chicago City Council had better watch themselves, lest they create an environment that is inhospitable to art, making one of the great cities in the world infinitely less great in the process.
4424. Stef Burke | May 13, 2008 at 10:14 am
It’s just Chicago’s absurd, corrupt way of making money off of those who work hard, day and night to book, promote and execute shows/events. They don’t get a portion of the hard-earned, untaxed cash, and that’s all they want to get their filthy little paws on. I will be there to voice my opinion. And I will rally and riot until our city drops this unreasonable ordinance. This city without music and events will have a larger uprising in crime and loitering. They’re asking for it.
4425. brandy simkins | May 13, 2008 at 10:14 am
I am against this ordinance, please vote no! Please count me in the petition to the aldermen. Chicago = music, please dont’ take it away
4426. Katie Quinn | May 13, 2008 at 10:14 am
If the powers that be deemed the arts as important as their beloved sports teams, we would never have to worry about Chicago loosing its music and theatre community. This is an outrage.
4427. Mike Bruno- Spare Parts | May 13, 2008 at 10:14 am
As a band who relies on income from performing, this law would essentially wipe out any chance of surviving off of what we have worked our whole lives to accomplish. We have already had to limit touring long distance due to gas prices. The only way to adapt is to play better gigs in Chicago. This will be the black plague of creativity outlets in Chicago. How has this just being made public? I have faith in humanity and that the people in charge of making this decision will see the dire consequences involved with a decision of this magnitude.
4428. Shannon Milhaupt | May 13, 2008 at 10:14 am
This ordinance is ridiculous.
4429. Anna | May 13, 2008 at 10:14 am
Save The Music. Save our Culture. End this shenanigans!
4430. Jonathan Iseman | May 13, 2008 at 10:14 am
Theresa and so many like her have done so much to help musical acts I’ve been in, including Algren. It absolutely sucks to see people like her and others who work so hard to improve the music community in Chicago be hit with this.
I’ve already got a call in to the alderman, and I intended to make several more. I encourage anyone else reading this blog to do the same!
4431. William McLean | May 13, 2008 at 10:15 am
Stupid ordinance.
4432. Dylan Hutchinson | May 13, 2008 at 10:15 am
Simply enforce the laws that are already in existence. Don’t attack your local culture, silly city council.
4433. Holiday Wirick | May 13, 2008 at 10:15 am
Chicago is the best city in the world because of its music!!! On any night you can find your favorite music at dozens of clubs throughout the city. Please vote against this absurd ordinance which will not only take our music away, but it will make it virtually impossible for talented artists to succeed in an already low-paying, competitive field.
4434. Adrian Vigliano | May 13, 2008 at 10:15 am
Chicago loves to consider itself a “world-class city”. Crippling the local and underground music culture by passing this ordinance seems a bit counter-intuitive to upholding that standard. Underground and local music and performance brings people to Chicago and maintains this city as a vibrant, artistic and exciting place to be. Don’t ruin this by passing this ordinance! I am 100 percent against this ordinance.
4435. E Lynch | May 13, 2008 at 10:15 am
This is a bad idea! Please don’t do it! Regulate the banking industry, not the music industry.
4436. Heather Smith | May 13, 2008 at 10:15 am
This ordinance is outrageous and is essentially aimed at stopping the “little man/woman” and his/her artistic expression. Once again, the guys with the big bucks are exempt. This is killing chicago culture.
Focus on real social issues (excessive gun violence ring any bells?)
4437. Clarence Robson Sr. | May 13, 2008 at 10:15 am
Being a lover of music and the performing arts, Iit is my opinion that this ordinance should NOT pass.
4438. Travis | May 13, 2008 at 10:15 am
This ordinance is bull shit. stick a fork in it. What garbage to try and pass this so sneaky like
4439. Nick Meiers | May 13, 2008 at 10:16 am
This ordinance clearly needs some revisions, even if the intent is good. I am particularily concerned with the two following bulletins.
- To get the license, applicant must be over 21, get fingerprinted, submit to a background check, and jump over several other hurdles.
- Police must be notified at least 7 days in advance of event.
I do not support this ordinance in it’s current form.
Nick Meiers
Chicago, IL 60618
4440. apathak | May 13, 2008 at 10:16 am
I am strongly against the ordinance.
4441. Justin Ocho | May 13, 2008 at 10:16 am
I am opposed to this ordinance.
4442. richard | May 13, 2008 at 10:16 am
Please do not pass the Chicago’s Promoter’s ordinance.
4443. stephanie mclelland | May 13, 2008 at 10:16 am
I heard about this on http://www.falloutboyrock.com, on of the most popular bands to emerge from Chicago. I am only 12, and live in Ireland, but the thought of no Fall Out Boy brings a lump to my throat, as I don’t know exactly where I’d be without them. Who knows what great performers are yet to emerge from this great city???
Stephanie.
4444. Sarah Huckleberry | May 13, 2008 at 10:16 am
agreed. that ordinance is crap. nuf said.
4445. Sarah-Ji | May 13, 2008 at 10:16 am
I cannot imagine Chicago without its vibrant indie music scene. It is one of the things I love the most about the city. So many of my friends (and husband) are musicians who depend on smaller venues to share their music. Yes, there’s Myspace and websites, but there’s no comparison to being able to share your music w/ people in the flesh, and the same goes for being able to experience your favorite band live and in person. I know that many of my favorite bands will never play venues like Allstate Arena or even the Vic, so it would break my heart if this ordinance were to pass.
“rise like lions after slumber
in unvanquishable number -
shake your chains to earth like dew
which in sleep had fallen on you -
ye are many – they are few.”
-percy bysshe shelley
4446. Gwendolyn Luster | May 13, 2008 at 10:16 am
I am definitely against this ordinance.
4447. Ryan Williams | May 13, 2008 at 10:17 am
If this goes through, You will see a significant loss in culture. I moved here to perform. If you take that away, I’ll go elsewhere. I don’t think i’m alone in this. I love Chicago, but this will be the nail in the coffin. I don’t make enough to support this. Way to try to leach off our creation!
4448. Matt Crawford | May 13, 2008 at 10:17 am
Do not pass this ordinance. Small theaters and venues where lesser known and starting out bands can play are what makes this city special.
4449. Kim Brummer | May 13, 2008 at 10:17 am
I love to live here because of the music scene – I love the small, intimate shows and if you take those away you’re taking away a huge part of what makes Chicago great.
4450. Sukari McGill | May 13, 2008 at 10:17 am
I oppose this ordinance 100%!
4451. Crystal Spears | May 13, 2008 at 10:18 am
I dont even live in chicago but as a lover of small clubs and independent music, this law is clearly going to drive music out of your city. maybe we could take all the art supplies from the elementary school kids next . . .
4452. Josh McKnight | May 13, 2008 at 10:18 am
This ordinance is an unreasonable, and makes it even more difficult for emerging artists to showcase their talents. With fewer smaller venues available for musicians, it discourages musical growth from within the city of Chicago. We’ll just be another big city with big ticket bands coming through large venues. This city’s musical culture was founded by blues being played in smaller venues. Why are we doing this?
4453. Brian Risselada | May 13, 2008 at 10:18 am
It’s not an understatement to say that making it more difficult for smaller acts to perform could completely destroy a city. Big cities thrive on art. Successful big cities attract artists. The artists who perform in these smaller acts are the ones that move here because they are able to meet with other artists and have venues to reach lots of people with less money. They are the people that often provide the day jobs that run the city. They also bring flavor to the city that makes it interesting to those who don’t perform themselves. It also brings personality to the city that brings in tourism. Eliminating this aspect would destroy a city. It’s not an understatement.
4454. Ron Bierma | May 13, 2008 at 10:18 am
This ordinance would be devastating to the Chicago arts. Musicians and clubs and promoters have a hard enough time making ends meet as it is. This would, in essence put the final nail in the coffin of live music in Chicago. Why should the many suffer for the ills of the one?? If the law had been followed, as it was stated, the E2 tragedy would never have happened. New laws and new taxes/licensing fees are not needed! Enforce the law as it is stated, and leave the rest of the law abiding clubs, musicians and promoters alone to eek out a living today. With a yes vote, many of these things will disappear tomorrow.
4455. G. Kibble | May 13, 2008 at 10:18 am
This is absolutely ridiculous, and threatens what makes Chicago such a great city. Aren’t we suppose to be going the other way? Supporting small business and supporting the arts?
4456. Rashida | May 13, 2008 at 10:18 am
Without the artistry of musicians and other (non-institutionalized) artists, the city will DIE. I’m not traveling to the burbs to experience the rich culture that I’ve become accustomed to living in the city! As a musician, I know that this ordinance will drive tourism out of Chicago, ie $$. I love this city, but it’ll kill my livelihood. I’ll be forced to move to a different more vibrant city who respects artists and wants them to thrive. The respect manifests as an understanding and acceptance that we keep the city going. They are trying to subject us to bad movies at outrageous prices, stale expressionless culture, commercialized events and hyped media. RECOGNIZE that this ordinance will drive out the sparkle of individual creativity, the life of the city.
4457. Brian Hoffmeister | May 13, 2008 at 10:18 am
Chicago should be trying to cultivate its cultural richness instead of squelching it. The majority of band and theater members barely scrape by in the first place, subsisting on a pittance to continue their artistic pursuits. A good way to stamp out this city’s creativity is to eliminate profits by requiring an unnecessary and suspicious promoter’s license.
Improving Chicago is pointless if it comes at the expense of the culture.
4458. Andrea Stricker | May 13, 2008 at 10:18 am
I read all 19 pages of the ordinance and now my head hurts. I am not a musician but I have many friends that are in other cities around the country and this would probably deter them from ever conducting their artistic expressions in Chicago, which I request regularly. I love living in Chicago because there is always something going on. On any given night there are a number of events to choose from that can leave an artistic impression on many. We should be encouraging such events to occur, not creating hoops to jump through so we can attempt to continue on a path of artistic and cultural diversity.
4459. Corey McCafferty | May 13, 2008 at 10:18 am
This is a terrible idea and could very well ruin Chicago’s renowned music scene. It will do little to solve the problems it seeks to address and will negatively impact aspects of our scene that don’t need fixing.
The independent promoters that will suffer as a result are the very thing that makes this scene unique and interesting. Passing this ordinance will force those with limited resources out of the equation and will make our scene bland and homogeneous.
4460. Justin | May 13, 2008 at 10:18 am
You have to be kidding me! Of all the low down dirty ways to make a buck. This will be a serious black eye to the music community in Chicago if this is passed and we can all but say so long to the great music that has traveled through Chicago over the years.
4461. Lauren K. | May 13, 2008 at 10:18 am
Please don’t ruin something that makes Chicago so great!!
4462. Michael Meyer | May 13, 2008 at 10:19 am
This ordinance would ruin Chicago. I have seen so many good shows at small venues like the Empty Bottle and Schubas. I love indie bands and rock music. I hate musicals. Please do not destroy my culture.
4463. Kris Burkhardt | May 13, 2008 at 10:19 am
Overregulation, no apparent gain.
4464. Daniel Fiddler | May 13, 2008 at 10:19 am
It’s hard enough playing in a local band, this will make it impossible!
4465. Elisa Vera | May 13, 2008 at 10:19 am
I don’t understand how anyone would want to try and stifle Chicago’s creativity. This city has so much to offer, it’s almost murder trying to stop it.
4466. Abby | May 13, 2008 at 10:20 am
i strongly oppose this ordinance and feel it would harm the culture and spirit of the city and its neighborhoods.
4467. MIeka van der Ploeg | May 13, 2008 at 10:20 am
Small theaters and music groups have enough hoops to jump through without extra city ordinances making it hard for them. please don’t let this ordinance be passed.
4468. Sean O'Neill | May 13, 2008 at 10:20 am
This ordinace is a bureaucratic nightmare that could seriously damage the amazing and diverse culture of Chicago. Live music in Chicago is a major reason why the city is considered a great place for young people to move to. If bands stop playing Chicago and legendary music clubs start closing, you’ll see many of these people move to other cities.
4469. Paul Fuller | May 13, 2008 at 10:20 am
This ordinance is obsurd and should not be passed.
Support artists, not your budget.
4470. Nicole | May 13, 2008 at 10:20 am
This is absolutely outrageous! Isn’t there anything better to do than take away the passion of art for so many people. This is how people start out their lives as artists and build their career and fullfill their passion and that is all going to be taken away…for what?
4471. Madeline Maser | May 13, 2008 at 10:20 am
This ordinance would be absolutely ridiculous. Chicago is known for it’s culture, especially it’s live theater and music. How would can the city even propose such a stupid idea? Where would this take the improv and comedy scene that Chicago is known worldwide for? $500 is an unheard of amount for most of us improvisers and sketch comedy writers, and a lot of shows don’t even pull in that much if it’s just a one night show. The promoter’s ordinance would seriously cripple Chicago’s performance culture.
4472. Dan Dwyer | May 13, 2008 at 10:20 am
Please don’t make it any harder than it already is for musicians to have a place to showcase their music. A big city like Chicago is supposed to be one of the few places where people can go to hear new kinds of music, its one of the huge attractions for people to live here. I wouldn’t live here without the music scene. Please don’t take it away from us!
4473. Hannah Kushnick | May 13, 2008 at 10:20 am
The city already derailed the great Printer’s Ball with the pre-existing rules; please don’t cause any more cultural casualties. The improvisational nature of Chicago’s artistic culture is THE thing that makes it not only a great place for innovation to happen, a wonderful and amazing place to live, and both different and better than New York. Chicago is just starting to build its reputation; please don’t end everything that makes living in this city worthwhile. If this law goes into effect, up-and-coming artists of all disciplines (and their more established counterparts who want a vibrant, ever-changing, creative culture to work in) will be gone as soon as the fallout becomes apparent. The damage to Chicago’s artistic reputation–not to mention a great deal of its lure as a tourist location–would be huge. Don’t let it happen.
4474. Kevin | May 13, 2008 at 10:20 am
This ordinance will do no good whatsoever. The persons responsible for this have single handedly jeopardised the entire heartbeat of the city. If the purpose of the local council was to make living in and visiting the city the most diluted but extortionately priced experience in the mid-west, then hats off, they are doing a great job.
I would suggest that the city which presently considers itself a genuine candidate to host the olympics should consider that before interfering with something they clearly have not got the measure of (such as the local music scene(s)) invest it’s time and our money into those things they have a duty to address recycling anyone?
4475. Jaclyn Jensen | May 13, 2008 at 10:21 am
This ordinance will destroy a part of Chicago’s character. Please OPPOSE this ordinance!
4476. Michael | May 13, 2008 at 10:21 am
I am not even going to speak eloquently on this one. The policy is complete crap, a sham so the city can make more money by picking on the little guys. As an artist, I find this appealing, and if anyone reading this is in a position to do something about it, do not approve such an attack on my ability to preform my music. Give me one good reason why I need insurance to perform? Give me an example. Whatever you come up with, I am sure it is crap too. Piss off and die. How about I make it so you have to have insurance so you can sing in the shower? Or have a picnic?
4477. Kevin | May 13, 2008 at 10:21 am
This ordinance will do no good whatsoever. The persons responsible for this have single handedly jeopardised the entire heartbeat of the city. If the purpose of the local council was to make living in and visiting the city the most diluted but extortionately priced experience in the mid-west, then hats off, they are doing a great job.
I would suggest that the city which presently considers itself a genuine candidate to host the olympics should consider that before interfering with something they clearly have not got the measure of (such as the local music scene(s)) invest it’s time and our money into those things they have a duty to address…recycling anyone?
4478. Anya | May 13, 2008 at 10:21 am
This is the most obsurd ordinance I have ever heard of. People these days have been fighting to keep music education in CPS and now your trying to take a huge part of music out of Chicago? This is beyond hyprocritcal and I do not support this at all.
4479. Robyn Detterline | May 13, 2008 at 10:21 am
It seems ridiculous that the city would want to hinder the two communities that makes it such a vibrant cultural center. This ordinance will drive artists and art patrons from the city.
4480. Edward Nudd | May 13, 2008 at 10:21 am
This ordiance CANNOT be passed in it’s current form. It is unfair to the local musicians, fans, promoters, and small venues who make the Chicago independent music scene such an important part of artistic culture here.
4481. Kathryn Spindler | May 13, 2008 at 10:21 am
This is not an area where additional legislation is needed or will benefit the community or the industry.
This will stifle artistic growth in the city of Chicago.
4482. zack | May 13, 2008 at 10:21 am
Stop pandering to corporations. This ordinance could kill small venue music and theatre.
4483. Rebecca Gomolka | May 13, 2008 at 10:22 am
Chicago’s entertainment is vital to the culture of this great city. It gives this town life and is the very reason Frank Sinatra wrote the song, “Chicago,” with lyrics saying, “On State Street, that great street, I just want to say they do things that they don’t do on Broadway.”
Don’t let Frank become a liar.
4484. kate peterson | May 13, 2008 at 10:22 am
please consider what you would be taking away from chicago and the artists.
4485. Brian Hilmers | May 13, 2008 at 10:22 am
I totally disapprove.
4486. Robert Donis | May 13, 2008 at 10:22 am
If Chicago is to continue it’s path to become a world class city, this ordinance will surely stop the progression.
4487. Omar | May 13, 2008 at 10:22 am
i would expect nothing less from the highly talented and ruthless pick-pockets that have made Chicago one of the highest taxed cities in the U.S. hope we can make enough noise to stop this thievery and preserve our freedom to kick out the jams!
4488. Michael | May 13, 2008 at 10:22 am
On my last post, appealing should be appalling. Damn spell check.
4489. Tyrel Williams | May 13, 2008 at 10:22 am
This is horrendous!!
4490. Miranda Johnson | May 13, 2008 at 10:22 am
Save Chicago music! I oppose the ordinance.
4491. Joel Craig | May 13, 2008 at 10:23 am
The cream of Chicago culture is in the underground, in the small venues, where the issue of creativity is primary and cash is secondary. It’s where the real artistic personality of the city is discovered, thrives, and grows. It’s also the seed that has allowed Chicago to prosper. Put the squeeze on it, make it a cultural ghost town, a real ghost town will be soon to follow.
Joel Craig,
60622
4492. Tony | May 13, 2008 at 10:24 am
This is dumb. I think the city of Chicago has better things to worry about than this. Give us a break!
4493. Andrea Crain | May 13, 2008 at 10:24 am
No, no, no! This ordinance is ridiculous and will stifle smaller acts. I can’t imagine what they could be thinking here!
4494. nickd | May 13, 2008 at 10:24 am
Realistically, I can’t imagine I’d live in Chicago much longer if independent music became illegal – and this is coming from a lifelong resident who harbors so much love for this city that his friends are astonished he didn’t write the entire Wikipedia article for it.
Absolute madness. Any alderman in support of it should be voted out of office and run out of town on a rail; I’m sure the suburbs would love to take them.
4495. Tara Davies | May 13, 2008 at 10:24 am
Please don’t let this happen.
4496. Ashley Hofer | May 13, 2008 at 10:24 am
This is outragous. I’m shocked and wonder who exactly is going to benefit from this set-up. That person should go to a show at one of our wonderful storefront theaters or listen to one of our “unknown” bands on its way up and see if their own profit is worth all these things being taken away from the millions of people that enjoy these shows every year. Of course, even if they saw what great groups chi has, their heartless money-grubbing minds will not be effected….. too bad they didn’t have a better arts education. And, too bad they’re making it so hard for thier children to have one….
4497. Ben D | May 13, 2008 at 10:24 am
Please don’t make this critical mistake that will potentially cause the downfall of Chicago music. We have seen some of the best bands/artists come out of this city. Going to see live music is one of my favorite things to do, and as a part time musician I enjoy being able to play around the city. I don’t have the time to play in the suburbs, nor do I really want to. Please don’t pass this ordinance.
4498. Gina | May 13, 2008 at 10:24 am
Keep the small local venues alive! The best places to see live music!
4499. Jose Garibaldi | May 13, 2008 at 10:24 am
this is terrible. Chicago has too much talent and to stifle it should be a crime…
Jose Garibaldi
4500. Caroline | May 13, 2008 at 10:24 am
I’m not sure the actual law requires venues with liquor licenses to pay, BUT this is still an abomination. Artists will have to hide… it’s like a prohibition for artists… Let’s do all we can to have an understanding!
Caroline
4501. Matt Larsh | May 13, 2008 at 10:25 am
Please do not pass this ordinance. The music scene at these small venues is something that makes Chicago special. Tons of people have been going to venues all over the city each and every night of the year for something to do. Please don’t take that away from all of us.
4502. Joseph | May 13, 2008 at 10:25 am
kind of makes me sick to think about this possibility.
4503. joe | May 13, 2008 at 10:25 am
Completely useless. I came to this city because it had variety in music and comedy.
4504. Jason Shivers | May 13, 2008 at 10:26 am
This is just absurd. I make my living doing tech work for theatre, dance, and concerts and killing these small venues will kill my work. Sure there are underground promoters that should be dealt with but will enacting a law against them really do much to stop them? Sure if they get caught theres a huge fine but arent they already acting outside of set laws and guidelines now to do shows?
4505. CT | May 13, 2008 at 10:26 am
Please do not pass this.
The music, theater, and the arts is what makes this city so great and unique! Please say no!
4506. J. Larson | May 13, 2008 at 10:26 am
Please vote no on this. As a local musician and fan, this will ruin our local music scene. Chicago is one of the best music/art communities in the nation and we would suffer by this proposal. Also this forces tastes of large companies down our throats by having independent music and venues disapear. If it’s a saftey concern, please trust the people of the city. If it’s a money issue, than it’s disgusting.
4507. Jill Heyser | May 13, 2008 at 10:26 am
Please do not tear down one of the qualities that makes the chicago arts scene so fantastic. Artists in Chicago can push boundaries by performing in small venues. Niche music and performance art can flourish and grow. A blantent tax like this is tantamount to a sock stuffed into the mouth of creativity.
4508. Sarah | May 13, 2008 at 10:26 am
This is the most ridiculous thing I had ever heard. The city should be promoting smaller venues and culture in general instead of making it difficult for places to survive. Think of how a decision like this will effect the city for the worst. The aldermen were elected to represent the people and ordinances like this just end up doing more harm than good. In fact, this ordinance just does harm. In a world where schools cannot fund art programs, the city should want to improve the culture of city, especially since it has one of the best scenes in the nation.
4509. Craig Theleg | May 13, 2008 at 10:26 am
This ordinance is the worst!
4510. Erin Barlow | May 13, 2008 at 10:27 am
Please vote no for this ordinance.
4511. Ben | May 13, 2008 at 10:27 am
This is ridiculous. Chicago is a cultural center of America. In my book it’s right up there with New York, LA, Seattle and the likes. In fact, I would venture to say Chicago is quite possibly the most important city in America, at least artistically. They cannot do that, limiting artists’ rights and such.
4512. Marqueal Jordan | May 13, 2008 at 10:27 am
I’m a musician who plays almost exclusively in the clubs that will be directly effected by this wrong-headed, sweeping law. Not only will it make it more difficult for me and fellow musicians to make a living, it will also continue the culture evaporation in Chicago that has been started by gentrification and these ridiculous highrise building developments.
Chicago has a rich history in gospel, jazz, blues, soul/r&b, indy rock, improv/small theater, comedy troops, etc. A lot of these places have already been shuttered or relocated because of high rent and developers swooping down like hawks. Now the city wants to subject these struggling clubs, it’s musicians and patrons to higher costs?!?!?!?! All in the name of passing the buck on liability if there is another E2 tragedy or a young teen OD’ing at an underground rave.
If the city had been doing it’s job correctly, E2 would have never happened. And the ordinance is not going to stop underground promoters. It’s only going to punish the good guys who abide by the laws. And what city agency is going to enforce the ordinance? Who’s going to make sure all these places have the right licenses to do business? This is nothing but a money gouge that’s disguised as being a law.
I urge the City Council to vote no!
4513. Denise Tarpein | May 13, 2008 at 10:27 am
vote no to killing chicago’s amazing and diverse music scene!
4514. Tara Shade | May 13, 2008 at 10:27 am
If we want to promote true growth, we can’t squelch creativity in any shape or form. This city needs to take advantage of the wealth of talent and youth that it has instead of trying to fabricate it’s image–and taking advantage of everyone in the wake of “reform.”
4515. Mark | May 13, 2008 at 10:28 am
I cannot even begin to express my disgust for this pending legislation, for emperor Daley, the aldermen that would even consider this, and all their cronies. It all boils down to money, which is what Daley is always after. I think that any potential licensing revenue must be weighed against the economic cost to the city: why has the Chicago Musicians Union Local 10-208 not been consulted about this? Or any theatre union/organization? This is old-style back room Chicago politics at its worst! It’s already difficult to make a living around here in the arts and music, but this would make it impossible. If this goes through, you can be sure that a lot of musicians and artists will be packing the bags and moving somewhere else. Why do we continue to elect these folks to their respective offices?? good Lord, I gotta go for a walk and calm down!
4516. Amy Senesac | May 13, 2008 at 10:28 am
This is a horrible idea. Please do not pass this ordinance. Please keep Chicago club entertainment local and unique!
4517. caryn capotosto | May 13, 2008 at 10:28 am
I oppose Chapter 4-157.
4518. Katherine O'Neill | May 13, 2008 at 10:28 am
It would be a tragedy to have this ordinance rushed through and passed. Chicago artists, musicians, theatres, etc…need support & encouragement, not restrictive ordinances that will push this thriving arts community backwards. I’d say most of what is worthwhile to see in this city takes place in small venues. Let’s work together and figure out a solution that benefits all!!!
4519. Riley Thomas | May 13, 2008 at 10:28 am
Hopefully the overwhelming response will have an effect on this decision. Passing this bill could and would put many artitists in a position of not being able to make art, essentially destroying any hope at a career; not to mention the livelihood and well-being of the artist.
As many have stated, Chicago is known for its diverse culture and one of the most representative things of that culture is the variety of performances. Thill ordinance would strangle all but a few of the largest troupes and venues, and stifle one of the most brillant and creative cities in America.
Please do not allow that to happen. Art allows us all to express ourselves and safely experience ideas. Please do not take that away from everyone.
4520. Shannon Fitzgerald | May 13, 2008 at 10:28 am
I oppose this
4521. Ben Gonzales | May 13, 2008 at 10:29 am
NO NO NO, vote NO! The underground and independent arts, especially music, are some of the most vibrant and integral parts of this city’s culture. A regulation of this sort would destroy that.
4522. Pamela Olander | May 13, 2008 at 10:29 am
Artists face plenty of challenges already in bringing their
talent to the public. Audiences’ lives are enhanced by
their entertaining gifts. Why make it more difficult to
perform? Why force venues to compete? This ordinance
is clearly not in the best interest of the people of Chicago,
Cook County, Illinois, or elsewhere. With current economic
difficulties, placing obstacles to creative expression hurts
everyone. Please re-think this damaging, counter-productive
ordinance. Thank you ~
4523. Leslie Hunt | May 13, 2008 at 10:30 am
Please add my name to the list.
4524. Eric Butkus | May 13, 2008 at 10:30 am
Please do not vote for this ordinance. I believe it will have a negative impact on Chicago’s thriving music community.
4525. Edward McKenna | May 13, 2008 at 10:31 am
This ordinance is a terrible idea.
Call your alderman today!!!
4526. Matt McCloy | May 13, 2008 at 10:31 am
People come from far and wide to come to Chicago. You may ask yourself why? Let me tell you why, because it is the grates city in the United States. It became the greatest city because of its local culture. If you take way the local culture like the metro, double door, shuba, the beat kitchen, and many other place, then the city will loss a big part of its culture. If promoter’s ordinance passes then Chicago could and most likely see less people coming in this great city. Not only will this city a loss of people for out of town, but a loss of people form the surrounding cities, towns, and suburbs.
4527. Kimmer Olesak | May 13, 2008 at 10:31 am
Stop this ordinance!!! Chicago money management and spending is out of control. We are taxed until we bleed. The advantage to living in this city has been the inexpensive music/theatre scene that has been available and thriving. This bill is just another way to toss money into the black hole of mishandled taxpayer funding. Throwing cash at a problem without thought or conscience has been the bane of the political strategy in our city as in others around the country. We have to speak up and then act. Only through actions will the comfortable listen. If this note is the least I or anyone else can do, then write one. Another baby step would be to contact your alderman as I have. The next would be to organize a very loud, theatrical and musical protest…but that may cost us $300,000.00 for the right. Let’s do it anyway and not pay! Rise up against unjust laws, unjust taxation and unjust government spending. Do anything, but do something.
4528. Brooke Jackson | May 13, 2008 at 10:32 am
DIY and small-venue arts and culture is the heart of Chicago. I alone can name hundreds of people who have traveled to Chicago to live with–and add to– this scene. On average, I attend about 2-3 shows a week, and none of them have been in 500+ seat venues.
I am currently getting an MBA thanks to my work with small theatre and music in Chicago. My only goal is to finish as a stronger business person and work with a small venue such as Schubas, Hideout, Hothouse, or any of the other fantastic companies in Chicago that promote independent artists and intimate live experiences. If this ordinance were to pass, I would likely be looking in a different city to continue my career, as would many other young people.
I’m sure CEOs for Cities and Richard Florida would recommend that an exodus of artists and the young population is not in Chicago’s interest. Please do not pass this ordinance.
4529. Ryan Lipinski | May 13, 2008 at 10:32 am
Chicago is famous for it’s small, intimate concert settings at places like Schuba’s, the Vic, Empty Bottle, Double Door, etc. Getting dropped off at an all ages show at venues like the Metro is a rite of passage for tons of Chicagoland teenagers. It would be a real shame to Chicagoans and our tourists to take these experiences away. Please consider what harm you are trying to address and if this regulation goes beyond what is necessary.
4530. Brett Janecek | May 13, 2008 at 10:32 am
Please do not allow this ordinance to pass! Artists who do not have the administrative capacity or the monies to afford the fees will be excluded from personal expression in the city limits of Chicago. If a person wants to dress up and perform on a street corner, they will no longer be able to delight Chicago. How sad!
4531. Laura Negri | May 13, 2008 at 10:32 am
Please don’t put Chicago to sleep!
Keep the scene alive!
4532. Jayve Montgomery | May 13, 2008 at 10:33 am
Let’s not get down. We are still Americans…I’m going to print up my Constitution today. I will not pay to Assemble and I will make this known to any authorities that bother my creative activities not taking place in the public way. And besides, if you don’t call the police, how do they know an event is happening? And by not calling the authorites ahead of time, have I already designated that this event is open to only those who know of it, and hence private. Civil Disobedience is your birthright. Creative Nonfiction is the way around Ignorant Predilection. Let’s get up, If our Aldermen don’t. Maybe we should all officially become religious institutions…
JayVe Montgomery, Brown Rice
4533. Aaron McEvers | May 13, 2008 at 10:33 am
Please vote NO on this Chicago Promoter’s Ordinance. As a professional musician and longtime resident of Bucktown, the notion of this legislation leaves me completely disheartened over my city’s duplicity. I thought the mayor loved to promote Chicago as a city where the arts thrive. Is this how the arts thrive? Who thinks of this nonsense?
As a direct result of this, my colleagues and I are left with substantially less opportunities to make our income.
Please vote NO.
4534. Dino B. | May 13, 2008 at 10:33 am
independent promoters are a key element to a vibrant music scene, especially in a city like Chicago. The ramifications of this narrow-minded ordinance have obviously not been fully examined. I strongly oppose this ordinance.
4535. Ryan Lowe | May 13, 2008 at 10:33 am
Come on Chicago – you used to be cool.
4536. Karis Findlan | May 13, 2008 at 10:33 am
Please do not allow this ordinance to pass! It has the potential to ruin one of the greatest assets Chicago has – the vibrant local music scene.
4537. Jesse | May 13, 2008 at 10:33 am
The adoption of this ordinance would go a long way toward making Chicago’s performance scene about as vibrant and creative as that of Branson, MO. (no offence meant to Branson). Please stop this madness before a city full of independent musicians and performers are forced out of work, or out of Chicago.
4538. Lauren M W | May 13, 2008 at 10:33 am
I think this whole thing is awful.
If this is followed through bands like Fall Out Boy wont be discovered, what a loss that would be to the world.
Music can change lifes for the better.
4539. Kim Swiss | May 13, 2008 at 10:33 am
It is hard enough for some underground bands to get a show in this town, there is no reason to limit the creativity of our city just so a few can line their pockets.
4540. Amanda Rountree | May 13, 2008 at 10:33 am
Please vote against this ordinance. Chicago is–in many ways–defined by its theatre. No theatre company starts out big. They all begin as an idea–as a small show with maybe twenty audience members. An assault on Chicago’s theatre is an assaut on Chicago.
4541. Ken Reigle | May 13, 2008 at 10:33 am
Don’t cripple one of the best aspects of Chicago.
4542. Daniel Thatcher | May 13, 2008 at 10:34 am
nothing short of infuriating…
4543. Annie Durkin | May 13, 2008 at 10:34 am
I may not use the music scene as much as others, but I believe that Chicago’s music scene is an integral part of what makes this city vibrant and unique. It seems like such a waste to destroy one of this city’s greatest assets.
4544. Amy McMenemy | May 13, 2008 at 10:34 am
Wow, what a slap in the face to all the hard working musicians in the city and those who hope to play the here in the future. This won’t effect the “big guys” but directly hurts the culture for which I moved to Chicago for. Venues under 500 capacity?? That’s exactly where I go to see shows regularly. This would deter so much good music and theatre from the city, it’s ridiculous. Not to mention how many tourists come here for such activities. Please help us keep culture in the city. Do not pass this ordinance!!
Signed,
For the love of Culture!
4545. Jason Williams | May 13, 2008 at 10:34 am
I can’t believe this!!! As a long time player in this city this affects my business and threatens the lively hood of myself and many of my peers. Please add me to the list.
4546. natasha | May 13, 2008 at 10:34 am
why you’re at it why don’t you charge me a $500 fee to breathe within the city limits. this will destroy the one thing that makes chicago tolerable in the hoth winters and humid summers. it will destroy our local music scene and the music culture chicago is known for. these are the people who actually care about the city and creating a community and this is how you repay us? if this is passed, it will be the driving force that makes people relocate into another city, state where taxes are a portion of what we pay here and where creativity isn’t stifled by huge fees.
4547. Stop the promoter’s ordinance - Chicago Concerts | May 13, 2008 at 10:34 am
[...] The petition against this is located here, at Save Chicago Culture. Please sign the petition to try … Like I said, the Chicago music scene is awesome, and we don’t need the City Council fucking it up. Also, if you are in Chicago and go to these shows, spread the word on this and get other people to sign because they are voting on this TOMORROW. So please get everyone to sign it today. This is an ordinance that is truly going to hurt all of us if it passes. [...]
4548. Michael Cavazos | May 13, 2008 at 10:34 am
I have lived in Chicago all my life. For the past 3 years, I have attended various Stand-up and Improv shows throughout the city. Stand-up and Improv performed by people that have full time jobs, and go to school, and have other obligations throughout the day.
But at night, these same people that work every day to feed this city more money, are now being told that they cannot go out at night and do what they truly love to do because more money needs to be given to the city in order to keep these venues open.
Where is this money going anyway? Schools are closing down, people are still homeless, streets are still damaged, the CTA is constantly in danger of eliminating routes, yet the city continually requests more and more money.
I have also began performing stand-up in October 2007. By closing down these venues because of license fees and insurance policies will kill my chance to perform stand-up.
I am not going to be able to go to Zanies or The Improv in Schaumburg, or the Lake Shore Theater to tell my jokes. People don’t want to pay to see me tell jokes, I belong in a free admission venue to practice jokes and try and perfect my ability to make people laugh.
And maybe I make it, but I can’t if I have no place to go and practice material. This ordinance does not benefit me in anyway. If I slip on the stairs at a venue, and hurt myself, thats my fault for being a dumbass. I’m not going to sue the venue and then they will be screwed if they do not have this new insurance the city forces venues to have. The ordinance does not benefit me by charging places thousands of dollars for license fees that they cannot afford and now have to cease their events.
Thanks for making it difficult on little people once again.
4549. Maria Del Zoppo | May 13, 2008 at 10:34 am
C’mon, Aldermen; what are you thinking? The things that make Chicago such a great place to live (and therefore full of people willing to vote for you and pay your salaries) are NOT the long-running productions of “Wicked” and the overpriced children’s museum; rather, they are places like the Metro, the Factory Theater, the Empty Bottle and Noble Fool, not to mention the myriad galleries and art shows. I love this city and plan to live here for years to come but bemoan the continued sameness of development; the cultural capital is what keeps me here. Please don’t do anything to jeopardize that; vote NO!!!
4550. A Chermak | May 13, 2008 at 10:34 am
If this happens I will move out of Chicago and never come back.
4551. Megan M Ramer | May 13, 2008 at 10:35 am
I submit my signature in opposition to this ordinance.
4552. Katie M | May 13, 2008 at 10:35 am
Please, Don’t kill the arts.
4553. Scott | May 13, 2008 at 10:35 am
This ordinance would kill the Chicago music scene. It would break my heart to see so many local, self-promoting bands leave for cities where they can still afford to play.
4554. Edgar Villeda | May 13, 2008 at 10:35 am
Highest taxes in the country, rampant gentrification, and now the attempt to profit off of Chicago resident’s creative endeavors. The powers that be are severely out of touch, and must honestly want Chicago to become one of the culturally lamest places in the Midwest. Lets not let it happen. Major thumbs down on this ordinance, I am COMPLETELY opposed to it.
4555. milesmiles | May 13, 2008 at 10:36 am
Members of the City Council, are you forgetting where you live? Are you forgetting about the musical diversity that is so intricately woven into the cultural history of this city? Are you forgetting that our cultural history is one of the things that makes this a world-class city? Please don’t cut off the air supply that fuels the spirit and creativity of Chicago.
4556. Dennis Davies | May 13, 2008 at 10:36 am
Please, vote no. This would destroy everthing I love about this city.
4557. Jeffrey Lien | May 13, 2008 at 10:36 am
This ordinance would eliminate our ability to survive. This is completely insane, throw it out!!
4558. Lauren Van De Winkle | May 13, 2008 at 10:36 am
I oppose this ordinance! Please don’t pass this!
~Lauren
4559. Margot | May 13, 2008 at 10:36 am
Let’s take a moment here and think, why are we doing this? For the money. Can we please for let be the Chicago arts and embrace them, encourage them, and preserve what is a fine cultural aspect of Chicago? New music, new bands are reasons I love Chicago and to endanger this in a monetary way is very unnecessary. Please just think about the affects of this ordinance so you can truly see that it would hurt more talented individuals than it would help. Thank you.
4560. Molly Boyd | May 13, 2008 at 10:36 am
This proposed ordinance will only stifle the creative and vibrant music scene this city is known for.
4561. john ritter | May 13, 2008 at 10:37 am
this must be stopped!
4562. Brian K. Read | May 13, 2008 at 10:37 am
The proposed ordinance is not a solution to the problems being identified by the Council. There has to be a better way to regulate promoters and protect people from the E2-type tragedies, than to stifle independent music in Chicago with this restrictive, ill advised ordinance. TOURISM will suffer, income to the city will be lost, as one of Chicago’s huge draws for toursists is the vibrant, diverse music scene, which is second to none! Chicago will lose a part of its heritage and identity if this ordinance goes into effect, and local venues are unable to afford the exorbitant fees for licensing!
I urge the City Council to reconsider this ordinance, and come up with something better!
4563. Cory Atkinson | May 13, 2008 at 10:37 am
I oppose this ordinance. VOTE NO.
Lawmakers must think past their bubbles and look more globally about the effect it will create across the Chicago cultural landscape.
4564. bvesely | May 13, 2008 at 10:37 am
This is retarded. We have a great music scene here and now the City Council is trying to ruin it for everyone. Every single show I go to is at a place that would be crippled by this ordinance. Bad, bad news. City Council, get your act together.
4565. Tapedek | May 13, 2008 at 10:37 am
Unbelievable. There are so many people who are not only expressing themselves through performing locally here in Chicago, but also create scenes that are specifically something Chicago natives along with exports can relate to. By taking away this right, the city of Chicago will find itself in more of a financial hole as they’d lose a tremendous amount of tourists who come to Chicago not only for Cubs and Sox games, but the parties afterwards.
The same people that they are trying to shut down are the ones who make this city alive with fun and interesting things to do. I suggest they stop looking through their minor scope and start to look at the big picture! There are more important things that the City of Chicago need to be worried about e.g. drugs, inner city crime rates, poor educational system, gun control, etc., people having fun without the government’s ability to “tap in” is certainly not one of the major issues at hand.
4566. Natalja Aicardi | May 13, 2008 at 10:37 am
What would the world be without good music, theater, dance…and the freedom of expression?
What would Chicago be?
Just another city, with lots of cars and pollution.
Why complicate things? Why make it harder for the artists and the people who want to give artists a place to perform?
Why not make it easier instead?
Please, do not pass this ordinance.
4567. pamela | May 13, 2008 at 10:37 am
The city of Chicago should realize that the live music scene is one of the things that makes it so great! It there are so many rules and red tape we will be stuck nothing but mainstream acts in large venues. Tourists come to Chicago for it’s character! Let’s keep it that way!
4568. Adam Devlin | May 13, 2008 at 10:37 am
One would think that budget cuts in our public schools is enough of a blow to the arts in our society. Chicago is a city of the arts. If you take that away, the city is on a one-way street to even more poverty. I oppose the Promoter’s Ordinance.
4569. Alexander Grelli | May 13, 2008 at 10:37 am
This comment serves as a signature to the petition.
4570. Brady Rogers | May 13, 2008 at 10:38 am
Chicago’s amazing music scene is in the top 5 reasons I live here and the city will never be the same if this ordinance is allowed to pass. It’s the equivalent of passing a law banning small businesses and putting a Wal-Mart on every corner!
4571. ingrid messer | May 13, 2008 at 10:38 am
it’s hard enough to book your own shows without this ordinance, which would make it virtually financially impossible for us and for thousands of other musicians in chicago.
4572. frank | May 13, 2008 at 10:38 am
This will kill the Chicago Music scene the City needs to back off.
4573. Ryan Marshall | May 13, 2008 at 10:38 am
this ordinance is crazy and i started a campaign to flood city hall for Wed meeting.
Please try and sign up to come out!
https://www.thepoint.com/campaigns/stop-the-event-promoters-ordinance/members
4574. Richard Irwin-Miller | May 13, 2008 at 10:38 am
This ordinance will only hurt the community, not just of artists but also anyone who enjoys local art.
4575. Alicia O. Hempfling | May 13, 2008 at 10:38 am
This ordinance would be a complete tragedy to the musical and theatrical culture of the city. There are musicians, singers and other performers that depend on the accessabiltiy of such smaller venues for their livelihood – as a way to support themselves and families, to gain exposure and experience toward other venues, and to offer outstanding and accessible entertainment for the public at large. This ordinance essentially limits the authority to offer these venues only to those with money and power. As a result, the creativity and talent that Chicago has been praised for for so many years would be “squelched.” Frankly, that would be a crime.
4576. Maude Standish | May 13, 2008 at 10:38 am
Chicago should work to cultivate the arts not punish or fine those engaged in creative actions across the city.
4577. Jay | May 13, 2008 at 10:39 am
This is not a useful ordinance. I moved here for the opportunity to watch musicians in smaller, more intimate environments. As you may or may not be able to notice here, people will not have a positive reponse to this. Nice try with the oppression agenda.
4578. Dan Hesler | May 13, 2008 at 10:39 am
I have been either a full time or part time musician in and around Chicago for approximately 25 years. Much of my work has been in small venues of the sort that apparently would be affected by this ordinance.
The proposed ordinance is a bad idea. Part of the reason that Chicago has enjoyed such a rich and varied cultural heritage is that this has been a city where people have been able to stage small theatrical or musical events on a miniscule budget. Thousands (or tens of thousands?) of events take place every year. This ordinance has been created in response to the extremely rare situations where things have gone horribly wrong, yet the net effect of the ordinance may be to cause coffehouses and small venues, which generally have insurance to start with, to get out of the entertainment market entirely.
The irony of the ordinance is that promoters who are staging events where 1,000 people show up will still probably find it economically worth it to comply with the new ordinance. In contrast, a coffeehouse may discover that it can no longer afford to have a cello and two violins perform on a saturday afternoon. In other words, this ordinance may have little effect on the problem it tries to address, while generating massive collateral cultural damage.
This ordinance is a bad idea and should be rejected.
dan hesler
4579. Pamela | May 13, 2008 at 10:39 am
Please no!
4580. Jaclyn Demes | May 13, 2008 at 10:39 am
This ordinance is just to make more revenues for the city’s pocket. And what will they use it on? hiring more of their friends with a fat salary and city benefits. The city’s poor spending habits should not be leveled by taking from the music community that is the “soul” of Chicago.
I disagree with this ordinance.
Jaclyn Demes
Northwest Suburbs, IL
4581. Eric | May 13, 2008 at 10:40 am
Please do not stifle entertainment options in Chicago. Smaller venues need a creative outlet too. This ordinance would be a terrible blow to the arts and music scene in the city. Vote NO!
4582. Mahjabeen Karim | May 13, 2008 at 10:40 am
I understand the concern and need to address safety, however, I feel strongly that serious revisions are necessary to this ordinance. Certainly, the terms are loosely defined and there does not appear to be much logic involved in development of this ordinance (see #3).
1. Chicago is known for its diverse arts scene, and draws many tourists here. We want to keep our city flourishing and keep our local businesses successful.
2. Please take into account that these venues provide opportunities for artists to meet and collaborate as well as share their creative expressions.
3. How will a non-profit organization survive if they cannot host any events for three years?
“A Not-for-profit corporation@ means any not-for-profit organization which: (1) has been
registered with the State of Illinois as a not-for-profit corporation for at least three years prior to
the presentation of a promoted amusement or event, or (2) qualifies for tax exempt status under
Section 501(c)(3), 501(c)(4), 501(c)(6) or 527 of the United States Internal Revenue Code of
1986, as amended.”
Let’s find a cost-effective, realistic, and successful way to address safety concerns without the destruction of Chicago’s artistic community.
I urge you not to pass this ordinance.
Mahjabeen Karim
Musician, Illinois Music Teacher
4583. Rich | May 13, 2008 at 10:40 am
The city is too smart to do this. Come on, the Mayor has always supported Chicago’s culture and commerce.
4584. Benjamin McKinney | May 13, 2008 at 10:40 am
As a Chicago music lover and musician, I cannot imagine this town without its independent music. Chicago today is a vibrant, free-thinking, and incredibly inspiring place to play and listen to music. Incredible bands like Wilco and the Smashing Pumpkins would never have risen to the status they have achieved were it not for Chicago’s incredibly supportive environment. Without independent venues, there would be no culture to support Pitchfork (regardless of how you feel about them, they are undeniably influential and important) and no Pitchfork festival, drawing readers and attendees from all over and making Chicago a bright spot on the international music radar. An ordinance that could even be construed in such a way as to make it untenable for independent venues to operate would destroy a crucial part of why I love this city.
In the unhappy event that this bill is signed (assuming that it’s enacted with worst-case enforcement, of course), we’ll look back on this in one of two ways–it will be the day that a great cultural center became a great cultural wasteland, or it will be a failure and an embarrassment on the level of Prohibition. If this happens, let’s just hope that Chicago’s musicians and artists have the resolve to make it the latter.
4585. Kate Tomsic | May 13, 2008 at 10:40 am
I hope the City Council will not let this culturally stifling ordinance to pass!
4586. John | May 13, 2008 at 10:40 am
This is the worst thing to happen to the local arts scene.
4587. Juan C. Ayllon | May 13, 2008 at 10:41 am
As someone who enjoys the arts and live entertainment, and is a writer who regularly covers the Chicago boxing scene, I am greatly concerned about this turn of events.
I understand that there are some fiscal issues at stake, but in my humble opinion, this is the wrong way to go.
Respectfully,
Juan C. Ayllon
News Editor & Staff Writer, Cyber Boxing Zone
http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/news
4588. MexicanaJo | May 13, 2008 at 10:41 am
I oppose this ordinance, as well. As a native of Chicago, it’s “ideas” like these that remind me why I moved out to the Western burbs just last year. This would be among the many reasons why I’d LOVE to see all the musical acts go through Oak Park, Berwyn, Aurora, Evanston, Naperville, Elgin, etc. Ample (usually free!) parking, great and affordable restaurants, mom and pop bars and clubs (yes, my fellow Chicagoans, they do exist out here!) and CLEAN AIR!!! Yeah, we all like clean air (in these green times…). So, Chicago, you still have a place in my heart, but I’m protesting you in my own way. Good luck.
4589. Damien T | May 13, 2008 at 10:41 am
So much of what makes Chicago great is at stake here. The social, cultural, and economic downturn that would result from enacting this ordinance is staggering. As an artist, I would be forced to relocate to a city that supports my occupation and my lifestyle. Let’s hope that doesn’t have to happen.
4590. Jessica Record | May 13, 2008 at 10:41 am
As it is, the artistic environment in the Chicago-land area is so competitive that high turnovers and limited space make it a challenge for actors, musicians, and other artists to “make a name” for themselves. Many struggle at the outset and overcome numerous obstacles before successfully adding another colorful facet to the city’s culture. By increasing the number of existing hurdles, many talented artists will not be able to share their gifts; and Chicago will lose much of the charm that now draws in so many resident artists and visitors from around the country.
4591. Owen | May 13, 2008 at 10:41 am
Oh, great idea. Let’s make it EVEN HARDER to be an independent musician in Chicago. GOOD JOB.
The only thing that makes Chicago a “world-class” city is it’s cultural scene…without the artists that give the city its soul, it’s just another city. Anonymous. The City of Chicxago needs to be putting money into the music scene, not taking money out of it.
4592. Brooklyn Fowler | May 13, 2008 at 10:42 am
Again, the city council is planning to destroy the culture of chicago at the cost of revenue revenue revenue. As an avid chicago small theater/music lover and longtime taxpayer, I wholeheartedly oppose this ordinance.
4593. Steve Clasen | May 13, 2008 at 10:42 am
How can they have the guts to do this? Do the higherups always have to find loopholes that force chicago citizens to outsource to get their human rights as an artist back? what’s next? a city wide dress code?
and furthermore, for outside artists, suburbs etc, who dream of making it to a chicago stage, they’re screwed now.
this is awful. and it’s tighening the noose chicago has around human rights’ neck. No cigarettes indoors, no patio’s after 11, and now no art allowed. this is garbage. sometimes i feel like telling chicago to get bent and moving.
4594. micah philbrook | May 13, 2008 at 10:42 am
please do not pass an ordinance like this that unfairly targets small venues and up and coming artists. i am sure this is designed to address some issue the city has, and not just to force the “little guy” out of business, but their has to be a better way to do it.
micah philbrook
whatisph.com
4595. Jenn Robbins | May 13, 2008 at 10:42 am
This ordinance is bad news!
4596. Hanah Haugen | May 13, 2008 at 10:42 am
Chicago is known for it’s cultural scene. How could they do that to themselves?
4597. V Casamatta | May 13, 2008 at 10:42 am
This is ridiculous and stifling. Absolutely no one befits from this. This policy defines ‘over reaction’.
4598. Annie Perry | May 13, 2008 at 10:42 am
Please do not pass this legislation. This law would price me out of performing as an independent performance artist. There definitely needs to be more public discussion about this legislation as to how it should be changed or whether or not it should be passed at all.
4599. Eric Roop | May 13, 2008 at 10:42 am
This is insane. Small, indie bands have a hard enough time playing and getting crowds…this would surely raise the price on those shows and make the crowds even smaller. You’re hurting the bands and you’re hurting the people who support the bands.
4600. Ana Leigh | May 13, 2008 at 10:43 am
This is ridiculous.
4601. Megan Sawchuk | May 13, 2008 at 10:43 am
Wow, I can not believe such a culturally diverse city would suddenly want to extinguish most of the events it’s known for. How many artists were discovered in Chicago? 100% of them have appeared at smaller venues at one time or another. I genuinely think people would move from the city of Chicago if this ridiculous law is passed. It would create a downward spiral that would be too difficult to recover from.
4602. Bradley Williams | May 13, 2008 at 10:43 am
One great allure Chicago offers creative artists is an opportunity to conceive and workshop fresh ideas in public spaces. Any given evening in this great city one can easily find original and refreshing music, art and theater, all inspiring one another. Although we sometimes take it for granted, it’s a thrilling atmosphere, continually surprising.
As a beneficiary of this climate (as both performer and patron) I would be greatly saddened to see the City Council, taking its responsibilities seriously, unintentionally hamper an unusually vibrant atmosphere. In every performance situation some intrepid person has to take the initiative to co-ordinate and arrange physical details, and, for a significant portion of these individuals, profit is not the motive. Hard to believe, but true.
I hope the legislators will carefully consider possible unintended consequences of the ordinance, as currently drafted. Art is a persistent flower, and will always find a place to grow. But we like the way it blooms in Chicago, don’t we?
Thanks, Bradley Williams
4603. Bill Lehman | May 13, 2008 at 10:43 am
This will be detremental to the “local music” scene and discurage one of the finer attributes of live entertainment in Chicago.
4604. Michelle Mashon | May 13, 2008 at 10:44 am
Its laws like this that keeps Chicago the SECOND CITY of culture, arts and so much more. Cultural events are not just for the artistic, they are for the masses- they influence our opinions, our politics, our future, our capacity to be a democratic, free thinking society! This is a slippery, capitalist attempt at creating a Communist state and why the arts in the US fail to live up to their full potential and constantly lags behind the arts in so much of the rest of the world! As someone who’s not native to Chicago, I am able to see in and right through all the sneaky, underhanded ways that the Chicago political machine takes advantage of its citizens and will go to any measure to assure that the fat cats get fatter and everyone’s cousin, brother, uncle and auntie gets a piece of the pie. AT THE EXPENSE OF OUR CITY!!!! In case you couldn’t tell, I am adamantly against this ordinance and the stifling of our artistic endeavors for the financial advantage of those who could care less.
4605. Molly Boyd | May 13, 2008 at 10:44 am
This ordinance will only stifle the vibrant and creative music scene this city is known for. Tourism dollars do not flow just from the Chicago Theater and Orchestra hall.
4606. Kevin Vlack | May 13, 2008 at 10:44 am
This is just such a shame. I don’t see how independent music is a threat to city hall. When you decide to kill off independent arts, you’re effectively discouraging people from wanting to live here. How is that economically viable?
4607. Erin Feinerman | May 13, 2008 at 10:44 am
this is pretty whack. Dont take away the best part of Chicago!
no to this silly law!
4608. Antonio Chico | May 13, 2008 at 10:44 am
This is a bunch of BS. The council is trying to take away the wonderful shows and concerts that make our city great. Dont they realize that some of these smaller shows and performers do NOT have the budget to deal with this money making endeavor? Seriously this can not be where we are headed, also not everyone wants to pay the high prices that will come from the producers that are trying to minimize there expenses. I am in total opposition of this ordinance.
4609. Jeff | May 13, 2008 at 10:44 am
There is nothing good that will come of this ordinance if it is passed. We will lose a music scene that is vital to this city and the culture that thrives on it. I moved back to Chicago from the East Coast to be a part of this scene and to have it stripped down and basically lost is outrageous. This is a city built on music with the blues and jazz … this is a city that has festivals celebrating music … this is a city filled with talented muscians and is home to some very successful bands, singers/songwriters … why would you want to take that away?
4610. Brijeet | May 13, 2008 at 10:44 am
Many relevant points have been posted to the comments of this blog.
The one I would like to repeat is simply the loss of revenue and resulting tax dollars. The City of Chicago would be harming infrastructure and services because they do not realize how much money in taxes is generated at these small businesses.
Sincerely,
Brijeet K. Dhaliwal
4611. Cassie | May 13, 2008 at 10:44 am
Save Chicago Culture!
4612. Valerie Goyette | May 13, 2008 at 10:44 am
I’m not from Chicago… but some of my favorite bands are from there. They had to start somewhere, just like many starting bands still need a chance.
My friends and I are planning a trip to Chicago for next summer, but we probably wouldn’t even consider going there if it wasn’t for its music scene. Don’t let it die!
4613. Josh Kalvelage | May 13, 2008 at 10:45 am
I strongly disagree with this ordinance.
4614. matt simpson | May 13, 2008 at 10:45 am
I strongly oppose the promoter’s ordinance that is under consideration. Live music — in all its forms, in all types of venues — is a cornerstone of Chicago’s urban culture. This law would stifle creativity and make the city a less attractive place to live. Please do not vote this into law.
Matt
4615. Aamir Burki | May 13, 2008 at 10:45 am
Please do not pass this law – I hope the alderman of Chicago recognize its negative aspects and do the RIGHT thing.
4616. Lucy Lambert | May 13, 2008 at 10:45 am
This plan presents an unfair burden to small businesses, artists, and patrons. Veto and vote no against this ordinance!
4617. Kari Ludwig | May 13, 2008 at 10:45 am
This ordinance is ridiculous. There are so many amazing bands I would never have heard of if I hadn’t seen them at The Metro or the Bottom Lounge, Schuba’s, etc. To think that this ordinance could stop these places from holding shows as frequently, if at all, really upsets me. I want my children to have the same music experience as I have had. The intimacy of these smaller venues cannot be replicated by the big ones who will benefit from this. And bands will probably stop making Chicago such a necessary stop on tours, further stifling the Midwest music scene. Preposterous.
4618. Kevin Marshalek | May 13, 2008 at 10:45 am
The Chicago music community is a great part of my life. I would not be who I am without it. If they remove something great that is Chicago music, and everything that is, there will be a large part of me missing, and I am sure there are thousands of other people who feel the same. Please don’t do anything that will ruin it.
4619. Andrea Disler | May 13, 2008 at 10:46 am
Target those that will do damage, not the vital small venues that make Chicago a musical treasure! I have never felt that my safety was in danger at Schuba’s, the Hideout, the Empty Bottle, Martyr’s, the Abbey Pub, the Double Door, ect…the list could go on and on.
4620. Seth Tucker | May 13, 2008 at 10:46 am
Boo hiss on this bad legislation! Chicago needs to protect its independent art, not prosecute it!
4621. Ken Haley | May 13, 2008 at 10:46 am
I would like to see an open public discussion of this ordinance before it is given fast track status to become law. Let those small and independent promoters affected by the new fees and rules have a chance to prepare a response. That is the correct process for any law put in place to protect the “public’s welfare.”
4622. Mat Biscan | May 13, 2008 at 10:46 am
Most bands in this city barely make any money for promoters to begin with. All this will end up doing is hurt the vibrant local music scene we have in Chicago. There will be no incubator for talent. There will be no shows to see for under $10. This hurts everyone interested, not just artists.
4623. Cassandra Ayers | May 13, 2008 at 10:47 am
For many inner city dwellers, these small venues are the only access we have to cultural events. Many great “Artists” got their start in small companies.
If you take this away, you not only deprive entire communities from experiencing art forms, you deprive future generations as well.
If Shakespear were here today, I’m sure he would address Chicago’s City Council in the following manner: “O villain, villain, smiling, damned villain!” Something’s rotten in Chicago!
4624. Ellen Gruby | May 13, 2008 at 10:47 am
Perhaps the city should actually talk with local muscians before presenting an ordinance that will so negatively affect them. I urge the City Council to ammend this before it become law to ensure it supports the Chicago music scene.
4625. Tiana Brazzale | May 13, 2008 at 10:47 am
Music is one of the best parts of our city. People fly from all over the world to ‘see live music in Chicago’. Don’t allow this knee-jerk reaction to proceed!
4626. Caroline | May 13, 2008 at 10:47 am
This ordinance is the weapon that will cause the death of independent culture in Chicago. Admittedly, the ordinance can peacefully co-exist with the new propertly development in Chicago, which similarly has given up on creativity and independnce. However, is Chicago already willing to raise the white flag to Schaumberg in defeat? II think Chicago has fight left. This ordinance will not pass. We will recall the artists, musicians, and authors who have developed in our city, and we will not let their children down. Or, I guess we could all move to Canada, maybe.
4627. rich Pooler | May 13, 2008 at 10:48 am
This ordinance seems to be some kind of knee jerk reaction to preserve the publics’ safety. As long as fire and safety inspectors do their own prescribed jobs effectively, this new set of regulations become a moot point. Fix the problem at its root, for a change.
4628. Maya Kuper | May 13, 2008 at 10:48 am
This ordinance would have a strong negative impact on Chicago’s independent theatre “scene.” There are dozens upon dozens of small, struggling theatre companies in this city that have a difficult enough time staying afloat without this sort of regulation. If the City of Chicago wants a slice of the pie from of the dollars that are coming in from live performances in this city, they should apply an ordinance like this to “event promoters” that HAVE financial backing and are in venues WITH 500+ permanent seats (see Wicked, Jersey Boys, Avenue Q). That’s where the money is anyway. Otherwise, they risk driving out these independent artists entirely, and then nobody wins.
4629. Patrick Kasch | May 13, 2008 at 10:48 am
Lets try stealing form the rich and giving to the poor rather than giving it right back to the rich.
This takes away from the truly creative, those that don’t buy into the mainstream niche. Don’t take away the wonderful world of DIY culture, it is already difficult enough.
4630. Jaime | May 13, 2008 at 10:48 am
Well, if my musical tastes consisted only of The Police, U2 and Celine Dion, this proposed ordinance would mean nothing to me. But considering the vast quality, diversity and real sense of artistry in live music is found outside of the arenas and corporate-owned airline hangars, this ordinance dissapoints in a huge way. I used to feel proud to be an American solely because of the distinction of living in Chicago. But, alas, there is a lot to be ashamed of as a Chicagoan if this ordinance ultimately passes.
4631. Pat Raynor | May 13, 2008 at 10:49 am
You are raping the Chicago culture with this ordinance.
4632. banana | May 13, 2008 at 10:49 am
What is the purpose of this legislation and where does the money go?
I strongly oppose this ordinance.
4633. John Blackburn | May 13, 2008 at 10:49 am
Fingerprint promoters…yeah great idea. As if the red light cameras aren’t generating enough “sit on your lazy politician ass and watch it roll in” revenue for this dump of a city…
4634. Margaret Kaner | May 13, 2008 at 10:49 am
I moved to Chicago because of its vibrant cultural scene. If this ordinance passes, I will strongly consider moving somewhere else.
4635. Lynda Robbins | May 13, 2008 at 10:49 am
I am shocked but, sadly, not surprised that this ordinance was quietly “sneaked” through committee.
Chicago has long been the home to talented local musicians – particularly blues and jazz artists. If passed, this ordinance will significantly deplete the pool of talent performing in Chicago. Let’s not let that happen by voicing our strong objections to this ordinance!
4636. Sandy Donahue | May 13, 2008 at 10:49 am
I can’t imagine living in Chicago without being able to go to shows of all shapes and sizes. The city would hardly be what it is without the cultural scene that it has. If this passes, the city will see the influx of people it has reveled in over the years dry up quickly.
We’ve already taken the arts out of public schools, do we really want to live in a culturally bankrupt city?
I mean, do you really think the masses are moving to Chicago for the hoppin’ financial district?
4637. Matthew Guski | May 13, 2008 at 10:49 am
The City already has an ordinance requiring that the Department of Buildings issue Occupancy Placards indicating the maximum occupancy at a PPA venue. Exceeding that occupancy or otherwise endangering the occupants of such an establishment or other members of the neighborhood or community is a criminal act and it is solely the transgression of venue owners and operators.
The proposed ordinance wrongly attempts to spread the culpability for such crimes to anyone performing at such venues.
4638. Tom Donovan | May 13, 2008 at 10:50 am
We can’t let this happen.
4639. Chuck Kukla | May 13, 2008 at 10:50 am
Cash and carry government finally makes its way to Chicago’s live performance scene. Another fine example of city and county government working hard for us! I wish a small asteroid would hit city hall– those hacks are rotten to the core and have absolutely no notion of the common good.
4640. Linda Boyd | May 13, 2008 at 10:50 am
I feel very strongly that this ordinance will only hurt our city. It will do nothing to help the citizens but sounds more like a way to line the pockets of the already wealthy and drive the artists that make this city appealing to many out and into a different city that respects and appreciates them. It seems very interesting that it is aimed at small promoters and not the giant impersonal venues that are owned by giant corporations. Who in their right mind would expect someone to go through a back ground check, get fingerprinted and notify the police because a band of 18 year olds from Cleveland wants to play in Chicago at a bar that holds 100 people. Save Chicago Arts!
4641. Samuel Barber | May 13, 2008 at 10:50 am
As a member of the Chicago Theatre community, I cannot imagine why anyone would want to stifle the artistic spirit of this city in such a reckless manner. Chicago has the distinction of being a city of innovation in the fields of music, theatre, and comedy performance, and this ordinance will single-handedly destroy that reputation.
I strongly oppose this ordinance, and anyone with pride for this great city should do the same.
4642. Tom Vencill | May 13, 2008 at 10:50 am
What is this Nazi Russia? How the hell can Starbucks stay aflout with all this burocracy? Are they going to shut down the Red Line at Clybourn cause some homeless guy’s banging on his Saxaphone? This oridinace will force garage bands and comedians to only perform at god awful street fest ilike the taste of Rosco fest. How’d you like for some drunken slob to ruin your punch line by throwing up funnel cake all over a make shift wooden fence? And who the hell wants to listen to Mr. Blotto? Gimmie Lily Allen and the Sex Pistols any day! I’d say lets pack up the Mayor and the city council even Stroger and Resko lock them in one of their chosen houses that sits over 5,000 make them listen to some pre-teen back street boy reunion show until blood comes from their eyes and their heads pop like an unpoked potato in the micowave.
Peace out
4643. laura davis | May 13, 2008 at 10:50 am
i don’t want my son growing up and not knowing and seeing all around him the love of music. this will only that that away from him. i think my son deserves the right to have music, don’t take that from him.
4644. Elizabeth Smiley | May 13, 2008 at 10:50 am
Please don’t make it more difficult for the arts to survive in Chicago. It is part of what makes our city great.
4645. Timothy O'Connell | May 13, 2008 at 10:50 am
My good friend sent the following block of text to his alderman this morning. I think it’s eloquent and respectful enough that others could benefit from excerpting it in their own letters to their own aldermen:
4646. Catherine Scully | May 13, 2008 at 10:51 am
I strongly oppose the Chicago promoter’s ordinance.
4647. Crystal | May 13, 2008 at 10:51 am
Let’s stop this ordinance, so we might protect the thriving performing arts culture of Chicago, which should continue to welcome all contributors, regardless of size.
4648. Ashley Harris | May 13, 2008 at 10:51 am
This ordinance is bogus. From a cultural standpoint, it threatens to eliminate nearly all channels for creative expression and community development and outreach. This is not just about bands playing shows, but will also prohibit environmental and educational fundraising events. From an economic standpoint, it is guaranteed to damage both small neighborhood and citywide economies. Residents regularly support local neighborhood venues and feed the local economy. Without such venues to support, Chicago’s economy will only continue to degrade.
4649. Michael Langston | May 13, 2008 at 10:51 am
Stop this insanity! If we band together, we may be able to stop Daley and his henchmen from destroying Chicago’s music scene.
4650. C. Brown | May 13, 2008 at 10:51 am
Some of the best music I have heard has been at the smaller clubs that will be most affected by this unfair ordinance. There is a world of difference between going to a concert (500+ fixed seating) and going out for a relaxing evening of great music.
Please, don’t kill the music!!!!
4651. Sarah | May 13, 2008 at 10:52 am
Chicago’s music scene is vibrant and varied and beautiful, making it a great draw for musicians and performers all over the country. The last thing this city needs is for it to be harder for small, local acts to get heard. Please don’t stifle our music scene.
4652. Liz Dillon | May 13, 2008 at 10:52 am
A terrible proposition
4653. Tara Murphy | May 13, 2008 at 10:52 am
The diversity of music in this city is the foundation of our cultural identity. This effort to overly regulate and, in effect, unnecessarily stifle, our world renowned music scene is outrageous.
4654. Jason Pritchett | May 13, 2008 at 10:53 am
Do not pass thiis ordinance. It’s draconian, unreasonable, and will effectively destroy one of the best things about Chicago.
Jason Pritchett
4655. Paul Feldhausen | May 13, 2008 at 10:53 am
Vote No…this is counter-productive.
4656. Melissa Garvey | May 13, 2008 at 10:53 am
Please do not let this pass!
4657. Jared | May 13, 2008 at 10:54 am
Chicago is one of the last places in the country to have a local music scene that functions the way it does. Limiting the potential for this scene to evolve and move forward would be a cultural tragedy.
4658. Justin | May 13, 2008 at 10:54 am
Please stop now! This is just another attempt by the government to capitalize on the fears of the people. Some people died (E2) and the government gives us a knee jerk reaction, to try and show us how much they care (about our money). It is the same thing over and over again. You make me sick!
4659. Neptali Figueroa | May 13, 2008 at 10:54 am
Completely opposed to this… If this passes it will be a sad day for the Chicago music scene.
4660. Shayna Swanson | May 13, 2008 at 10:55 am
This sent chills down my spine when I heard about it this morning. It will essentially kill any independent arts presentations in Chicago. This will become a disgusting place to live…
4661. Martin Mercado | May 13, 2008 at 10:56 am
PLEASE do not pass this ordinance. This will cripple the COC’s image of being an entertainment destination for artists and patrons. Let’s re-think the issue.
4662. Mr. Automatic of The Image Front | May 13, 2008 at 10:56 am
Support the Municipality! Sign Your Life Over to the City of Chicago!
In all seriousness, as a band that’s whole structure is based around the concept of Chicago’s ever-growing “fascist nightlife”, I am appalled that this ordinance is even being brought into consideration.
The fact is, most electronic music promoters do not make much money, and generally are paying out of their own pockets for expenses. There are exceptions to the rule, as many clubs do their best to help their promoters out. When you get right down to it, however, it is no longer the nineties and being a professional promoter in nightlife is next to financially impossible.
As if the city had not already taxed the clubs to death and demanded insurance and licenses, they now want to have all small promoters licensed? Do they not realize that this will kill all local forms of music, and most promoters of local music have day jobs and do not have 500-2000 to fork out to the city?
I understand the city’s opposition to illegal undergrounds, although I find it ironic that they sponsor celebrations of house music every year. Have they forgotten that their beloved house came from disparate warehouses on the south side, and not the cocktail lounges and downtown nightclubs of today?
It is amazing how quickly people forget these facts, and throw them aside when money is involved. To make matters worse, the people making these decisions have probably never stepped foot inside of The Empty Bottle, Schubas, Liar’s Club, The Abbey, or any other smaller venue in the city. I also believe that they get their ideas about promoters’ annual income from the front most of us put up. No promoter is ever going to tell you how much they actually earn a year, and should never be expected to do so.
Simply put, this is the city trying to throw yet another oppressive ruling our way in order to stifle the arts and rake in more revenue. The arts are always the first to go on the brink of a recession, and it’s obvious that this is the first significant move in that direction.
Hell, at this rate, I might as well go get a street performance license and starting playing for tourists.
4663. Christopher Blisstopher | May 13, 2008 at 10:56 am
DON’T LET CHICAGO DO THIS!!!! PLEASE STOP THIS FOOLISH ORDINANCE FROM PASSING!!!!!
4664. Robert Lindauer | May 13, 2008 at 10:56 am
I am against this ordinance!
4665. Courtney Roberts | May 13, 2008 at 10:56 am
A public discussion should be held before any law is put into effect. It is especially distressing that this law proposes to implement prohibitive fees on small promoters but exempts larger or permanent venues. For shame, Chicago!
4666. KLM | May 13, 2008 at 10:56 am
It is ridiculous that the city of Chicago is considering stifling artistic creation through this ordinance. The council should consider the revenue it receives from patrons willing to travel to see musical shows in their city.
4667. Maria Paff | May 13, 2008 at 10:56 am
Music and culture is so quickly being snuffed out of our society, I always thought Chicago was a place where these things were alive and promoted. I oppose this.
4668. Yvonne Doll | May 13, 2008 at 10:57 am
this is outrageous
4669. Rach | May 13, 2008 at 10:57 am
Why must everything good be ruined by politcal greed and money? You’d think this was the good ‘ol USA or something where the ‘Little Guy’ actually gets a break…..
For us people that visit the fine city of Chicago for the things this ordinance will ultimately squash, I am sad.
People……why can’t we pass laws that actually make the city BETTER. i.e……NOT this ordinance. What the heck are you thinking?
4670. Daniele Manni | May 13, 2008 at 10:57 am
This is America!
4671. JoAnn Badur | May 13, 2008 at 10:57 am
I adore the intimacy of the smaller venues of this city. I go out of my way to avoid places like the United Center and that place in Tinley Park, whatever its called now. I’m not a play person at all. I prefer concerts. Assigned seating, or any seats at a show, is a waste of valuable floor space if you ask me. I spend most of my evenings out at the Metro, Double Door, Riviera, The Vic, Aragon and the HOB. I prefer concert venues to bars any day. I’ve been to Schuba’s and Uncommon Ground a few times too for my friends who aren’t popular enough to fill a larger space. When the time comes, I want them to be able to play those larger places so I can share them with the world someday.
I hate everything about this ordinance and I know I’m not alone.
4672. MaryAnne | May 13, 2008 at 10:57 am
I am very saddened by this – we have always had such wonderful music in our town – the summer outdoor concerts were friends and strangers get together to enjoy one of life’s greatest pleasures – please don’t let this happen
4673. N. Seery | May 13, 2008 at 10:57 am
I strongly oppose this ordinance for all the reasons stated above and below.
4674. Maria Long | May 13, 2008 at 10:57 am
I oppose this ordinance and would move to another city if our small theaters, music venues and such could no survive due to such legislation.
4675. Chad Bobren | May 13, 2008 at 10:58 am
I agree with all the posters above. Ridiculous idea. If this passes, there will be no reason for me to live in Chicago anymore.
4676. Molly Seltzer | May 13, 2008 at 10:58 am
What a terrible thought — no venues for local music. I hope this ordinance does not pass.
4677. Desirae Cabrera | May 13, 2008 at 10:58 am
I’ve never been to Chicago, but out here in the West, it’s known for its deep dish pizza and its amazing underground music scene. If the music is gone, so is the heritage. There have been tons of great bands to come out of Chicago, and none of them would be here if it weren’t from small venues like these.
4678. Jim Mullin | May 13, 2008 at 10:58 am
I can not even believe this. I am an independent artist and performer and I will not be able to perform if this goes through. I will move in protest. I am so ashamed of our leaders for even proposing this.
4679. Tom Challenger | May 13, 2008 at 10:58 am
What’s there to say? This is just lousy. Instead of rooting out the problem you are casting a huge net that will damage legitimate small businesses, their patrons (citizens of Chicago and surrounding area) curtailing and damaging Chicago’s wonderful music/club scene.
The question is WHY? Very short-sighted!
4680. Jessica Peters | May 13, 2008 at 10:58 am
Please keep the Chicago scene alive by not passing this ordinance. Music is for everyone, not just for the rich. What’s next? Make schools only available for the rich? This digusts me that the Chicago needs to bring in revenue so bad that they would force small venues and local artists out. If you take the arts and culture out of Chicago, what kind of place do you think it will become? Not a place where I want to live! I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS ORDINANCE.
Jessica Peters
4681. Tracy Kirk | May 13, 2008 at 10:58 am
I’ve been a musician for a very long time, and I’ve seen the changes made in the music scene, but this is stupid. If this goes through you will have high school/ college performance then Harris Theatre, Houes of Blues, Symphony Ctr in other words a big chasum and no bridge to cross. We will have to migrate to the suburbs and outlying cities to continue our living. Chicago will die of culture. Please rethink this ordnance. The exsisting laws are more than enough to stop the “illegal promotions”
4682. Mark Anderson | May 13, 2008 at 10:58 am
Please stop this from happening!
4683. vanessa vincent | May 13, 2008 at 10:59 am
no answer at joe moore’s (49th) office today ward. left a voicemail message. hope he’s out there doing something to fight against the murder of chi-town’s artist scene..
4684. Joshua Miller | May 13, 2008 at 10:59 am
As a performing musician around Chicago for the last 10+ years, I can think of few things that would impact my own life and those of nearly all of my friends in such a negative way. Independent music and independent music promotion is a business with slim margins as is, and the city trimming or erasing them altogether will make a huge portion of the music happening in the city a faint memory. Please voice your opposition!
4685. Kristina | May 13, 2008 at 10:59 am
How is the city justifying this ordinance? Who is it supposedly going to protect and who is it supposedly going to support?
Please ad my signature.
4686. frank menendez | May 13, 2008 at 10:59 am
This ordinance is too broad, vague, and should not be passed. If City of Chicago values the vibrant cultural and music scene that has grown, it will not pass this ordinance in its present form. I realize that COC needs to generate revenue and control illegitimate promotion businesses, but not at the hefty price of killing the vibrancy of the music and cultural scene. There must be a logical compromise. The present ordinance is not it. DON’T PASS IT!
4687. towntravis | May 13, 2008 at 10:59 am
This is clearly an oppressive ordinance. I am completely opposed to it.
4688. Bassoholic | May 13, 2008 at 10:59 am
Some of chicago’s most talented bands can be heard at the underground, and lesser known small clubs. This ordinance will destroy the opportunity to hear and see these groups. I’m all for making sure slimy promoters don’t thrive. But this ordinance, as it’s worded, will surely squelch the young musical creativity in this great city.
4689. James Miller | May 13, 2008 at 10:59 am
Richard Lloyd’s Neo-Bohemia should be referenced to anyone making an argument for the importance of a vibrant art and music scene to any city. Lloyd is a graduate of the University of Chicago and based the research on this book here in Chicago; particularly the Wicker Park area and the changes that neighborhood experienced. You should pick it up at Quimby’s.
Also, for the record – this is one of the most frightening ordinances I have ever seen proposed. Putting further regulations on the always struggling arts is representative of a lack of understanding and a fear of the unknown.
4690. Don Bora | May 13, 2008 at 10:59 am
Vote no. Chicago was and continues to be the birthplace of some serious creativity including, but certainly not limited to, music, fine-art, film and theater. The Chicago music scene is woven through the culture of the city; Indeed, it’s a defining characteristic. Please preserve our culture. Please preserve our identity. Please preserve our character.
4691. Ari Fox Lauren | May 13, 2008 at 11:00 am
Is leaving a comment here tantamount to signing the petition? I hope so. This legislation is WRONG, and must not pass! One of the defining characteristics of Chicago has been the vibrancy of its “storefront” theatres and its historic small music venues. I honestly don’t understand what’s happening; is Mayor Daley trying to turn Chicago into just a bigger version of, say, Cincinnati? A nondescript rust-belt city with no character all its own? This CANNOT happen!!!
4692. Jennifer Thornton | May 13, 2008 at 11:00 am
This ordinance does not seem to have merit. Small venues are where art is born–large venues, which aren’t penalized by this ordinance, are only in existence because of the work that grows out of small venues.
4693. Mary Boam | May 13, 2008 at 11:00 am
We should be encouraging the fine arts in the city….not discouraging.
4694. RJ | May 13, 2008 at 11:00 am
It seems obvious that this over-regulation in an attempt to extract revenue where there just ain’t much will have a real, devastating, chilling effect and actually decrease sales tax, parking and other revenues that already result from the vibrant cultural scene in Chicago. Instead, the City and the Department of Cultural Affairs should be encouraging these smaller venues, events and activities which only result in better quality of life, increased property values and the resulting enhanced property taxes, safer neighborhoods, increased visitors from the suburbs/region/other states, etc.
4695. Jeff Gabrielson | May 13, 2008 at 11:00 am
One of the reasons I decided to move to Chicago after college was because of the rich and diverse music venues / scene. I know I am but one man, but if this puts a hurt on places to see shows, looks like its off to another city.
4696. Jeffrey Shafer | May 13, 2008 at 11:00 am
I can’t believe this is even being considered! Chicago’s performing art scene will be crippled and the people will be outraged.
What has our city come to? Up and coming artists will be cheated out of their ability to put on quality shows which are a part of this City’s thriving culture as well as an essential part of the artists’ career to expand.
4697. Stephanie Ehemann | May 13, 2008 at 11:00 am
Do NOT let this pass!!! We can not sit back and let the City government kill the arts and culture of Chicago!
4698. william alexander | May 13, 2008 at 11:00 am
ah,ah the gangster infante is at again—greed,greed,greed,and more greed
becomes the knife,that stabs the heart of the collective unconsious—
aka—music—-”rebell—i say; rebell—–or boycott the youngsters olympic dream——
4699. Fred Lochbihler | May 13, 2008 at 11:01 am
This ordinance will stifle artistic innovation, chill creativity, discourage talent from developing and staying, and harm the City’s reputation.
It is also poor economic planning. A few bucks will be generated for the City early on, but over the long term discouraging aspiring artists via this ordinance will not only impoverish the city culturally, but will lessen the flow of money to not only artists, but the many small businesses that feed off of performances, adversely affecting the local economy.
4700. Dave Hiltebrand | May 13, 2008 at 11:01 am
I oppose this ordinance
4701. Benjamin Harmon | May 13, 2008 at 11:01 am
This is terrible news. We can’t allow this to happen. The city already has control of our art b/c of that silly ordinance that was passed. As a performer, supporter, overall enthusiast of Chicago’s music/performance art scene I strongly urge you to reconsider this ordinance. Besides, if this passes there goes much of the economy in this already depleting city.
4702. Will Miles | May 13, 2008 at 11:01 am
In 2005, I left Atlanta’s comedy scene, where I started, and moved back to my hometown of Chicago, which is also the home of comedy. When I got back, I was taken aback by the rich, creative cultural scene that I was becoming a part of. I am also a teacher in Lincoln Park, but I started teaching just to pay for my ImprovOlympic classes and my rent.
Now I have reached a point where I have already told my job I am leaving to pursue my dreams in Chicago. With the connections I have made, I am ready. If this ordinance is passed, there is no way this can happen. The scene will be dead here and I, like almost every other comedian in the city, will be forced to move to another city like New York to pursue my passion. This would be bad for Chicago.
Thank you,
William Miles
4703. Peter Glowatsky | May 13, 2008 at 11:01 am
As a city whose smallest musical innovations grew into global culture shifts nobody could have predicted, halting Chicago’s performance scene at the ground level–which would essentially be the result of this ordinance going into effect–is nothing short of a travesty. Not just for the artists or local patrons, but for an entire world who still feels the pull of a snappy jazz ensemble, or immerses themselves in the beats of house music half a world away on an island in the Mediterranean.
4704. Rick Brown | May 13, 2008 at 11:01 am
As a semi-professional musician for almost 30 years and a life-long music fan, I am very concerned about this sort of homogenization and the accompanying dilution of musical expression. In my hometown of NYC, we’ve seen the effects over many decades of a laissez-faire “market” attitude toward culture. The result has been to make it now all but impossible for experimental and non-commercial music to be performed in Manhattan. For the time being, Brooklyn and Queens give refuge for some but the pressure is mounting and already venues and musicians are being pushed further and further away from the center. That Chicago is endangered additionally by actual legislation to restrict its vibrant and impressive musical scenes is very disheartening and truly shocking. I am sure the issues are complicated and there may even be some positives to parts of the resolution, but the effect on small venues and struggling artists has clearly not been acknowledged by the drafters. We all need to do what we can to stop this!
4705. Devan Beimler | May 13, 2008 at 11:01 am
As an active musician and music reviewer, I strongly resent the fact the ordinance was ever authorized. If it weren’t for Chicago’s plentiful venue, a lot more kids (especially in the punk scene) would be in a lot more trouble than they are now. Music is one of the only options left with truly independent (by which i mean non-corporate) means of entertainment, and it means the world to kids like myself. VOTE NO!!!
4706. Scott Free | May 13, 2008 at 11:01 am
I host two music & spoken word events in the gay&lesbian community – one is completely volunteer, and the other is always a fundraiser for a local LGBT organization. If this ordinance passes, I will be required to register as an “event promoter”, and have to pay exorbitant licensing and insurance fees. I won’t be able to continue with what I believe is a valuable contribution to the gay community of Chicago – to help get the writers and musicians of our community the exposure they deserve.
4707. Jenna Dalgety | May 13, 2008 at 11:02 am
As a promoter/producer/audience member to countless small theatre/music/art productions, I wholeheartedly oppose this ordinance.
It’s a tough time to produce shows as it is. This ordinance will make it even more difficult, and for many impossible.
4708. William Jackson | May 13, 2008 at 11:02 am
This is a “no-brainer”.
4709. Jason Haaheim | May 13, 2008 at 11:02 am
As an actively gigging drummer and percussionist in Chicago, I see this ordinance being a disastrous blow to the live music scene in this city — a mecca of performance in the midwest. It should unequivocally be tabled.
4710. Trey | May 13, 2008 at 11:02 am
E2 was a result of failed bureaucracy. Adding another layer, or layers, of bureaucracy to the existing adequate regulations is asinine. It is a classic passing of the blame. Blame the lack of laws rather than the lack of enforcement of the laws by those still in office. This response is unimaginative, irresponsible, and reckless. DON’T DIMINISH THE CULTURE OF CHICAGO!
4711. Megan Milks | May 13, 2008 at 11:02 am
This sounds like either a grand conspiracy against the so-called little people, or something that hasn’t been thought through AT ALL. i prefer the latter explanation — bc when you think it through, you realize it’s an idiot policy, and it must (and can) be shot dead at the gates.
4712. Andrew Neher | May 13, 2008 at 11:02 am
Please don’t let this pass. What a horrible idea. Our vibrant and eclectic music scene is something to embrace, not stifle.
4713. michael kranicke | May 13, 2008 at 11:02 am
Please don’t pass this inane ordinance. Its amazing that one can have a sister city in Paris, the arts capital of the world, but something like this is even considered. This is completely hinders the commerce the artists provide to the city.
4714. Gillian Bellinger | May 13, 2008 at 11:02 am
Damn the man.
4715. Elyse Kakacek | May 13, 2008 at 11:03 am
I have grown up in the Chicago arts scene, and it has inspired me to pursue a degree in music! The Chicago community has always been a place to support creativity and expression in its young populations, and to stifle this would decrease the city’s diversity (of which we are always ready to publicize).
Dont pass this. Please.
4716. Nathan Andon | May 13, 2008 at 11:03 am
Isn’t this what attracts many to this great city?
4717. Joseph Ruiz | May 13, 2008 at 11:03 am
Don’t hurt the City’s excellent music scene with an unnecessary broad ordinance. If additional revenues are needed, make this venue specific.
4718. Angela Demma | May 13, 2008 at 11:03 am
Please do not pass this ordinance. Chicago’s vibrant music, theater and cultural scene is vital to the life of this city. It is what makes this place unique and interesting and a destination for visitors. Do not make it more difficult for our artists to survive, it is difficult enough already and we NEED them. They are intrinsic to this place. Don’t dilute Chicago’s talent. Support and keep our artists here.
4719. Rachel Charson | May 13, 2008 at 11:03 am
I know that many performing musicians in Chicago are making music purely for the love of it, because goodness knows it isn’t the money. To take away such a gift due to impossible fines, fees and paperwork would strip our city of culture and would lay another major blow to the arts. Isn’t Chicago trying to establish itself as a global city? All great cities are known for their culture. Please do not crush ours.
4720. Brittany Thomas | May 13, 2008 at 11:04 am
Vote no.
Absolutely ridiculous, people come from all over the country to appreciate our city’s rich culture and music.
4721. Jim Gies | May 13, 2008 at 11:04 am
This ordinance would prohibit many of the things that I hold dear about Chicago culture. It would strip the city of important, not to mention historical, traditions of underground do-it-yourself culture. Please help keep Chicago as amazing as it is now.
4722. Randy Hofbauer | May 13, 2008 at 11:04 am
As a lifelong Chicagoan, as well as an avid music lover, I oppose this. If this is what the city wants to do to earn more tax dollars, then the city is going to lose money. What reputation would we lose to the nation, as well as the world, if our music scene dies out? Quite an important one, imho.
4723. Angie Schoofs | May 13, 2008 at 11:04 am
it’s already expensive to live in this city and enjoy what it has to offer in entertainment. If they take away the culture in some of our great little neighborhoods, why bother living here.
4724. scott yanzy | May 13, 2008 at 11:04 am
This ordinance is lame–my vote is no.
4725. A. Sless-Kitain | May 13, 2008 at 11:05 am
I implore people to oppose the Event Promoters ordinance, which is outrageously overzealous in it’s scope. The city of Chicago’s thriving music and arts scene would be critically disabled by the passage of the proposed bill. Independent promoters will not be able to program entertainment with such expensive overhead, the cost of which would surely be absorbed by concert-goers. The ordinance threatens to erase one of Chicago’s defining cultural attributes.
4726. robert asinjo | May 13, 2008 at 11:05 am
this is a horrible attempt by the city to control creative expression and peoples right to free assembly. Please stop this.
4727. Matt | May 13, 2008 at 11:05 am
Please don’t do this. I need other live music options than Coldplay at the United Center.
4728. Jay Randall | May 13, 2008 at 11:05 am
I vote NO against this new ordinance. I am currently in the scene playing my ars off every weekend and this would make palying Chicago undesireable in so many ways. It is truly unfair and why is this an issue? What really fueled this type of movement by the city?
Is it becuase they have been losing so many other fights in congress? Is this a weak way to put a victory under there belts to feel like they’ve done something?
People come to Chicago to see bands and have a good time. I mean it’s already expensive as hell but they also want to take away our music (no matter the genre)?……
I am Joliet Jay of Mostly About Nothing and I say HELL NO to this bullshavick.
P.S. The Mayor can kiss my ars!
4729. Jenny | May 13, 2008 at 11:05 am
If this goes through, it basically just became pointless for me to have moved into the city to start performing. Not everyone starts out, or becomes famous enough to perform at steppenwolf or in WICKED.
4730. Phyllis | May 13, 2008 at 11:05 am
I totally object to this ordinance. It would create such a loss to one of the many things that makes this city beautiful – creative music art expressed by beautiful and creative musicians. Wake up politicians and see what you’re doing! Stop thinking about money and instead think about the lives that would be negatively affected by this decision.
4731. Emma Harris | May 13, 2008 at 11:05 am
NO. This is a horrible decision. Everyone needs to vote no. The Chicago scene thrives on smaller venues. This would be a devastating decision to the culture of Chicago.
4732. Susan Forte | May 13, 2008 at 11:06 am
DO NOT PASS THIS ORDINANCE. It does not address the issue at hand but instead will greatly impede at best and probably eliminate a part of chicago that makes it vibrant, fabulous and interesting place to live and visit. the music scene in chicago is a big attraction and should not be penalized in this manner.
4733. Roland Mangahis | May 13, 2008 at 11:06 am
I oppose the ordinance.
4734. Darren Olsen | May 13, 2008 at 11:06 am
I moved to Chicago two years ago to attend Columbia College for Music Business & Management. I chose Columbia because it was in Chicago and is deeply involved in the vibrant music community. It seemed that Chicago was realizing that the entertainment market was an under valued product and more needed to be done to promote it nationally and internationally. That is why the CMC was started. Now the city wants to stop the arts community dead in its tracks, this is absurd! I chose Chicago over my hometown of New York, because I felt that the city embraced the arts. If this ordinance is passed, I will then know that it was all false hopes. If the ordinance passes, then Manuel Flores loses my vote. Please save Chicago Culture!
Darren Olsen
4735. Kristine | May 13, 2008 at 11:06 am
I am completely against this. I don’t understand the reasoning behind this. Absolutely rediculous! Where are all the bands going to play? I cant even imagine what it would be like with this passed.
4736. Reid Hyams | May 13, 2008 at 11:06 am
The Promoters Ordinance…Not!
I do not support this ordinance as a member of Chicago’s Music Industry. Chicago has one of the most diverse and vibrant music scenes in the world, something we should all be proud of, support and not hinder… Especially, with unnecessary laws that will destroy an important part of Chicago’s culture. I urge you to vote against this ordinance. We need to enforce the laws that are on the books, not make up new ones that will have such an adverse affect. I cannot emphasize enough, how important it is that this bill is not passed. Please vote no.
Thank you,
Reid Hyams
Voting Member/The Recording Academy
X-ART Entertainment Management Group
Music Industry Consulting | Production | Management
7706 N. Eastlake Terrace
Chicago, Illinois 60626
V (773) 274-0248 | F (773) 274-8077 | C (312) 371-2916
E-mail: reid.x.art@gmail.com
4737. Chad Hill | May 13, 2008 at 11:06 am
This is completely ridiculous. Vote NO!!!!!!!! Chicago entertainment scene will be reduced to bland mediocrity!
4738. Richard Giuliani | May 13, 2008 at 11:06 am
I find this ordinance ridiculous and feel it deprives Chicagoans of important cultural opportunities. Underground culture and promoters help bring new ideas into the city and have also helped gentrify areas no one else wanted to take on first, resulting in increased revenues for the city. Kill this ordinance
4739. Al Rasho | May 13, 2008 at 11:07 am
NO! are you crazy. Keep it creative. Keep it alive. Art Alone Endures.
4740. Sarah | May 13, 2008 at 11:07 am
I strongly oppose this ordinance.
4741. Nils Higdon | May 13, 2008 at 11:07 am
While the safety of theatre and concert goers is of the utmost importance to all parties involved, the proposed ordinance is not protecting anyone if they have no concert or theatre to go to. Chicago is a beautiful city with many attractions, but many problems as well. In spite of the myriad of social and political issues which face Chicago, its vibrant culture and dedicated artistic community are routinely cited as a major reason why people love their city and stay motivated to remain here; or visit the city. Passing this ordinance would greatly damage the culture of Chicago and disservice its citizens and visitors. There is a better way to protect individuals without denying them the artistic expressions they deserve.
4742. Andrea Bartz | May 13, 2008 at 11:08 am
I oppose this ridiculous ordinance and urge the council not to approve it.
4743. Mike Reust | May 13, 2008 at 11:08 am
The character of a city is not defined only by large, City or corporate-sponsored venues. Please vote this ordinance down in its current form and re-write the language so small venues are not unfairly burdened. This ordinance seems like an assault on entertainment at small venues and a way to squeeze more money from them that the City of Chicago can squander.
4744. Brian Vaughn | May 13, 2008 at 11:08 am
This is clearly a poor band aid to fix the potential of unsafe gatherings. I do not support it.
4745. Todd E | May 13, 2008 at 11:08 am
Vote no, yo
4746. Dorrie Ferguson | May 13, 2008 at 11:08 am
I strongly oppose this ordinance and my alderman’s position will effect my vote!
4747. Dan Shirley | May 13, 2008 at 11:08 am
There is no clear benefit to the community out lined in this bill. Further there is no demonstrated need that would necessitate an ordinance of this nature. of course the alderman aren’t concerned with the ripple effect of this bill – when have they been advocates of any culture that doesn’t directly affect their personal interests? This is likely an attempt to close down venues and replace them with more bank branches.
4748. Laine Morreau | May 13, 2008 at 11:08 am
This law is prohibitive to the furthering of true art in our fine city. If passed, it will be the end of truly independent music and performance here in Chicago. Can Empty Bottle or the Hideout or Reggie’s or SubT or any of the other venues that have done such a wonderful job of fostering independent music in Chicago afford to pay these ridiculous costs? Without raising their prices from generally less than $12? Nope; it’s impossible. Clearly this law is meant to stop underground shows happening at houses and other “unofficial” venues. This should not apply to places that are independent, yet OFFICIAL, venues. If passed, this will have such a negative impact not only on Chicago’s music scene, but on independent art as a whole. I guess we can all look forward to having no other options than to pay $60 to see some bullshit at United Center.
In addition, what is the purpose of subjecting legitimate business owners to fingerprinting and background checks? And why are the owners/operators of the larger venues (500+ fixed seats) not also being subjected to this HARRASSMENT??? That sounds like discrimination to me. An independent music promoter needs to be treated like a criminal in order to put on shows, but the people operating the larger halls (read: the people putting the most money in Chicago’s pockets and catering to a much larger extent to the tourist trade) are exempt.
Chicago already has a bad rap in the music scene. Many independent artists will not play here anymore due to our reputation for having jaded, unwelcoming crowds who do not emote one iota during a performance. Let’s not create an even more hostile environment that will ensure even less independent music, theater, and other art in Chicago. Do not pass this law, especially as it stands now!
Laine Morreau
4749. Andrew Bennett | May 13, 2008 at 11:08 am
I strongly oppose this ordinance for all the reasons stated above and below
4750. Chris Pomeroy | May 13, 2008 at 11:08 am
This ordinance must not pass. Chicago’s rich cultural life is a prime reason to live in our increasingly expensive city. I vote ‘no’.
4751. Erica Gerdes | May 13, 2008 at 11:09 am
Please don’t pass this legislation. If you do, it will take away the thing that brought many of us here, and we will be forced to leave.
4752. Louis Weisberg | May 13, 2008 at 11:09 am
How ironic that at the same time New York City is recognizing Chicago’s accomplishments in the performing arts with a record number of Tony nominations, our own city council is considering a measure to stiffle our creativity. I can only wonder what special interests are behind this miserable attempt to eradicate creative entrepreneurs like those who founded Chicgao Shakespeare Theatre and Steppenwolf from the city’s entertainment scene. Which aldermen are in whose back pocket on this one? If this travesty to our city’s cultural future succeeds, it will be interesting to find out what kind of backroom deals this is really about and to hold the greedy cronies responsible at the ballot booth.
4753. Ryan Springer | May 13, 2008 at 11:09 am
Please dont choke the creative heart of chicago!!!
4754. Sue Adasiewicz | May 13, 2008 at 11:09 am
Music is the heart and soul of Chicago. Please do not pass this ordinance.
4755. Nicole J | May 13, 2008 at 11:09 am
Don’t destroy Chicago’s underground music culture with silly ordinances penned by corrupt politicians. Let the people breathe!
4756. Rob | May 13, 2008 at 11:09 am
No.
4757. caroline Dixey | May 13, 2008 at 11:09 am
I really don’t know what to say. It seems like the City of Chicago has it out for music-lovers and partiers of this city. There has been a huge increase in young adults coming to visit Chicago and then moving here. It’s not because Chicago is so warm and toasty that people want to move here, it’s because of the amazing array of things to choose from. I know a handful of people who did just that, but never would have thought twice about moving here if they wouldn’t have gone out and had an amazing time.
Frankly, I don’t really know any citizen of Chicago that would SUPPORT this bill. Companies are going to lose money, people will have boring summers, and even worse winters. Considering this country calls itself a Democracy, this bill should not pass, and if it does, don’t be surprised if there is a giant music party/riot in the street.
4758. Ryan Bahrke | May 13, 2008 at 11:10 am
Please add my name to the list.
4759. Cayce Dumont | May 13, 2008 at 11:10 am
I oppose the Event Promoters ordinance.
4760. Randy Clark | May 13, 2008 at 11:10 am
Just another way for the bureacracy to regulate and supress artisitc creativity. Chicago has the greatest live music scene in the country and an excellent platform for Artists to showcase their work. Please stop this!!!
4761. Amanda Wezeman | May 13, 2008 at 11:10 am
This is appalling. Small theatres and music venues are what make Chicago great. Not only would the city lose these acts, we’d also lose the talent that moves here in order to perform. Let’s make sure this ordinance never sees the light of day!
4762. Barrett Tasky | May 13, 2008 at 11:10 am
As a musician barely making rent even though i’m out playing 5 days a week – this will ruin all the clubs that make a difference in the city. Much as Meig’s field was “X’d” out over night so will the chicago music scene. RIDICULOUS! There other ways to go about insuring the safety of John Q Public going to crowded musical events that this effects.
We all must be a unified front on this. Musicians, club owners, promoters, sound engineers, doorguys, clean up crew, fans, critics alike.
God bless us on this.
4763. CJ Mitchell | May 13, 2008 at 11:11 am
I strongly oppose the Chicago promoter’s ordinance.
4764. Jason Stein | May 13, 2008 at 11:11 am
I oppose the Event Promoters ordinance.
4765. The Undeniable aka Robbert J. Bricker | May 13, 2008 at 11:11 am
What is it with cities trying stop artists from being artistic?!
I do not understand.
I would expect something ignorant like this to happen here, in Pittsburgh (where individuality and creativity is severely frowned upon) but, but, but not in Chicago!!! UG!!!
4766. Michael Girgis | May 13, 2008 at 11:11 am
Please vote no to this ordinance. It would be greatly damaging to the city’s musical culture.
4767. Laurel Beck | May 13, 2008 at 11:11 am
Please vote NO for this ordinance! Chicago’s music and culture scene is wonderful just the way it is!! Please don’t destroy it!
4768. Marc "FX" Hart | May 13, 2008 at 11:11 am
This cannot pass. I have too many friends who are struggling artists who need to perform in chicago to promote themselves.
4769. David Hawkins | May 13, 2008 at 11:11 am
This is yet another example of how the City of Chicago doesn’t get it. The Chicago music/theatre/arts scenes are one of the most important and vital aspects of Chicago, but instead of realizing this and nurturing and promoting them, they make it harder and more expensive for them to do their work, and effectively punish the smaller bands/artists/promoters. They love to promote the nationally-known artists/companies, but where do they think the Steppenwolfs and Wilcos come from? From small bands/companies who do their own thing! Wake up, Chicago, and think about what you’re doing.
4770. Alex Borges | May 13, 2008 at 11:12 am
They just dont know when to stop. This city is always nickle and diming it’s citizens. But this is the wrong.
4771. Daniella | May 13, 2008 at 11:12 am
Please don’t pass this ordinance, I have friends who are part of our local music scene, and I don’t want to see them adversely affected by this or any of our other local talent. If this ordinance passes I believe I will leave Chicago because without music there is no nightlife, and my friends and other musicians arent’ going to be able to perform as often if at all. It would be such a shame if this ordinance passed.
4772. Brian Berkowitz | May 13, 2008 at 11:12 am
Unlike so many other countries that actively and financially support artists and musicians (modern-day France and Canada and Stalin-era Soviet Union among them), America basically leaves it up to artists to survive. It’s measures like this proposed ordinance that take this one step further, and seem to aim to crush whatever chance artists and musicians have in this nation. Why does America not treasure its artists and recognize that, for hundreds and hundreds of years, they have represented us as much as a flag or a president or ambassador or sports team. They are part of our proud national identity. If we don’t value and support our artists, especially in this era of the Media Player, what will we be listening to and who will we be watching? We’ll be all set up to to view and hear optimally, but what we see and hear won’t be American artists. There won’t be any. STOP CRUSHING ART IN THE USA!
4773. Cara | May 13, 2008 at 11:12 am
Enforce the existing promotion safety laws, Chicago! They were created for that purpose. Don’t make small music venues and artists–the lifeblood of our city–pay for the City of Chicago’s mistake: failing to prevent the E2 disaster due to lack of enforcement.
4774. Nadine Moser | May 13, 2008 at 11:12 am
This ordinance is obsurd and will change the image of Chicago which is known for its many cultures. Venues of any nature are what bring tourist to the Chicago area which inturn create revenue not only for business but the city alike with the taxes on consumer goods. We are already reaching a depression, why incourage it with this ordinance. The weak get weaker and the City will feed of its hard earned reputation at the cost of consumers.
4775. Katie Newkirk | May 13, 2008 at 11:13 am
This ordinance has the potential of eliminating every single concert or theatrical production I generally attend. This would deter new talent from performing in Chicago and would hinder Chicago’s cultural scene, which is one of the primary reasons I live here. This is ridiculous!
4776. Jason Hissong | May 13, 2008 at 11:13 am
Once again it seems the City Council would have more important things to argue about than this issue which serves no purpose.
4777. Briana | May 13, 2008 at 11:13 am
It seems that the musical industry is becoming increasingly harder to get into. Theres certain cities where its more difficult than others, and with Chicago being the birthplace of so many amazing artists, its horrible to think that this city, once an opportunity, might become another dead end for young, striving musicians.
Its a shock to me that anyone could ever want this to happen anywhere around the globe. Chicago is what it is for every aspect of it. If you take such a large peice of its culture out, where is it going to leave the locals or the town?
This ordinance is a ridiculous disaster of an idea.
4778. Gregory Shifrin | May 13, 2008 at 11:13 am
Is that all about money again?
Don’t stop the music!!!!!
4779. Scott Tipping | May 13, 2008 at 11:13 am
Please do not let this ordinance pass. Add my name to the petition.
4780. Laureen Dunne | May 13, 2008 at 11:14 am
The City Council will be looking at a lot more problems trying to undo this ordinance if they push it through. Shame on the drafters! They are idiots, and dangerous idiots at that!
4781. Dave Hiltebrand | May 13, 2008 at 11:14 am
I oppose this ordinance.
4782. Jon DeFiore | May 13, 2008 at 11:14 am
As someone who’s supported the live music scene in Chicago for several years now, I vehemently oppose this ordinance. Please do not stifle the thriving Chicago music scene with this unfair ordinance.
4783. Richard Fox | May 13, 2008 at 11:14 am
I oppose the Event Promoters ordinance. Please add my name to the list of those in opposition.
Respectfully,
Richard Fox
Chicago, IL
4784. Nick Ciarelli | May 13, 2008 at 11:14 am
I’m going to college right outside Chicago in a few months, where exploring and visiting the city is integrate and encourage by our school. I’m so eager to get involved with Chicago comedy scene when I get out there (it was a major factor in my decesion to attend school in Illinois). I don’t want the Chicago comedy and music scene destroyed just when many if us are about to explore it. Please vote no.
4785. Ken Chalmers | May 13, 2008 at 11:14 am
This makes about as much sense as moving the Children’s Museum to Grant Park and if this ordnance passes (heaven forbid) then it surely is another example of aldermanic prerogative at work.
I’ve read many of these comments and they all ring the same—this is one idea that has no merit. E2 or not.
4786. Heather Nelson | May 13, 2008 at 11:14 am
I think this is horrible and shouldn’t pass. Limiting small clubs could destroy Chicago’s wonderful and diverse music scene. Something that this city has been known for, forever!! Don’t rob Chicago of it’s music!!!
4787. Christy Bennett | May 13, 2008 at 11:14 am
I oppose the Event Promoters ordinance.
4788. Paulette Corley | May 13, 2008 at 11:14 am
NO! NO! NO! The ordinance is ridiculous! We need MORE venus for celebrating OUR culture–not less!
4789. Amanda Howard | May 13, 2008 at 11:14 am
I strongly oppose this ordinance.
4790. Zach Dodson | May 13, 2008 at 11:14 am
We are against the Event Promoters ordinance.
Zach Dodson
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featherproof.com
4791. justine harlan | May 13, 2008 at 11:15 am
whaaaaaaaaaaaaat? this is a terrible idea.
I oppose the Event Promoters Ordinance.
4792. Bob | May 13, 2008 at 11:15 am
I strongly concur w/ the aforementioned sentiments.
Chicago cannot thrive when we’re resigned to moving backwards in our ideals and the city’s best intentions.
Please do not let this pass.
4793. Zakiya A. Williams | May 13, 2008 at 11:15 am
Please don’t pass this ordinance. We don’t need to make it difficult for small venues to provide much needed entertainment.
4794. Tekki Lomnicki | May 13, 2008 at 11:15 am
This is absolutely ridiculous! As the Artistic Director of a twelve year old company that rents small theaters, I am outraged. The small theater scene is what makes Chicago different from other cities, and if the ordinance passes nobody will be able to afford to produce it! Please don’t pass it.
4795. Geoff Shell | May 13, 2008 at 11:15 am
As a member of local band, The Hue, and someone who prides himself as being a Chicago musician, this would be absolutely devastating to us and the entire music community. The venues that would be affected from this bogus law are venues we’ve greatly relied on for some time now. They have helped us rise up from nowhere in just a little over a year since we started playing, and it’s important to keep this opportunity alive for anyone looking to get out there and perform music and have an audience. This law is just furthering the culture-killing concepts of gated communities, and I am crossing all of my fingers this won’t get passed.
4796. Tim Miller | May 13, 2008 at 11:15 am
This is preposterous. Chicago is what it is because of its openness to small-scale cultural events. This would squash Chicago’s status as an artistic center.
4797. Michael Guarrine | May 13, 2008 at 11:15 am
If this ordinance were to become a law the arts community would be devastated. Not only would this hurt artists, musicians, performers, etc., it would also hurt many of the small businesses that work with all of these groups. Chicago needs to make sure that they keep the arts a priority or they will start to gain a terrible reputation in the international community. Without the support of the arts this changing city will be quite a horrible place to live.
4798. Angela Esposito | May 13, 2008 at 11:16 am
This ordinance, if passed, will be detrimental to the musical culture of Chicago. To pass this ordinance, in its current form, would be a mistake. Please do not pass this ordinance!
4799. Brian Nielsen | May 13, 2008 at 11:16 am
The underground music scene in Chicago is the reason I love it this city. Taking that away seems like a completely irrational move to me.
4800. ks rives | May 13, 2008 at 11:17 am
culture is not only for the wealthy, or the law savvy, but for the people. please do not take the freedom of performance, the freedom of speech from the people who need it most, and therefore from their audience. Chicago needs for this ordinance to not be passed. Thank you. ks rives
4801. dan lutger | May 13, 2008 at 11:17 am
Enforce the existing laws first.
There never would have been a problem at E2 if the laws already on the books today had been enforced.
As a regular attendee of Chicago cultural events I can attest to the fact that since E2, clubs are taking these laws very seriously.
This ordinance is a losing proposition in terms of both money and culture.
4802. Jodi | May 13, 2008 at 11:17 am
Please don’t kill our local culture with this ordinance.
~Jodi Henderson
4803. J.R. Wydra | May 13, 2008 at 11:17 am
Please say no to this legislation. Chicago is one of the few cities in the United States where a musician or actor can make a living and this law would jeopardize our careers that bring so many tourists (and their money) to our great city.
4804. Morry Sochat | May 13, 2008 at 11:17 am
Stop this bill….
I book my own shows all the time and won’t be able to do so if this passes.
Morry Sochat
4805. Joe Goodkin | May 13, 2008 at 11:18 am
Many musicians and artists already face an uphill economic climb in pursuing their careers… PLEASE do not make it even more unnecessarily difficult.
4806. Nathan Fore | May 13, 2008 at 11:18 am
Strongly oppose, I will have no reason to go to Chicago if this passes.
4807. Matt "Taito" Mazzaroli | May 13, 2008 at 11:18 am
This is ridiculous. If they just enforce the statues on the books regarding over crowding and fire codes, this becomes not only superfluous, but a burden on a faction of the city that is already low income. I book a couple shows here and there, and some reputable venues look to me for local openers, etc…, but I am not making thousands of dollars per show, I am just helping fill rooms with good local music and getting my friends in front of some new ears. If the venues have the licenses, that should be enough.
Taito
4808. Dominique Lewis | May 13, 2008 at 11:19 am
Please do not stop the independant music scene. The Event Promotors Ordinance would crush the smaller acts in Chicago. Do Not Pass it!
4809. Randy Rivero | May 13, 2008 at 11:19 am
All this law will do is prevent the real music from being heard. Veto!
4810. Jessica Lucas | May 13, 2008 at 11:19 am
Terrible Idea!!!
4811. Logan Bay | May 13, 2008 at 11:19 am
I oppose the Event Promoters ordinance.
This is against everything that has made Chicago the world class city that it is!
4812. Aelya | May 13, 2008 at 11:19 am
You’re joking,right?
Keep it alive. Seriously.
That city is my love.
4813. Mark Katz | May 13, 2008 at 11:19 am
This is insane. How much more money can Daley suck out of us? Stop this NOW!!!!!!!
4814. Nathan | May 13, 2008 at 11:19 am
I am adding my name to this list, in the strongest hopes that this ordinance WILL NOT PASS! Please!
4815. Cara Donley | May 13, 2008 at 11:20 am
Enforce existing promotion laws, Chicago! They were created for that purpose. Don’t make artists and small music venues–a major lifeblood of our city–pay the price for the City of Chicago’s mistake: failing to prevent the E2 disaster due to lack of enforcement.
4816. Jeremy Lowe | May 13, 2008 at 11:20 am
The music, art, and theatre scene in Chicago is the only thing left worth anything in this city. I am a Chicago Police Officer, and in my off time I enjoy going to smaller venues and seing great local and touring bands. If this ordinance is past, I feel that the independent music/art scene in Chicago will be destroyed. This will be hard on everybody, but personally it will leave me with the worst in society with nothing in this city to value. Personally I’ll be moving if this is passed.
4817. Wesley Gould | May 13, 2008 at 11:20 am
It would be quite unfortunate if this ordinance passes.
I consider this to be a direct attack on musical artists’ existence
and artistic development, of which Chicago claims to be one of this country’s centers.
It is obvious this ordinance stems from a tragic club
incident from several years ago in which the City of Chicago
was found to also be negligent in enforcing current laws.
So now their solution is more laws?
Can anyone say, “Revenue Shakedown?”
I can only encourage the Chicago city council to vote NO on this legislation, as it is fascist in nature.
Less Government = More Freedom
More Government = Less Freedom
Every Chicago Alderman or Alderwoman who votes yes
on this ordinance WILL BE FOREVER REMEMBERED ! ! !
4818. Aaron Simler | May 13, 2008 at 11:20 am
I am outraged that a city as progressive and friendly to the creative arts is thinking of enacting a law that will in essence silence the arts. Chicago has long enjoyed an international reputation for its vibrant music scene. This is a city that gave birth to the Blues. It gave birth to the House music scene of the 1980s and 1990s. It had and continues to have an edgy reputation in the indie rock world.
Unfortunately this ordinance in its present form will silence that reputation. Small venues are being ‘punished’ with the exorbitant fees this law is seeking. Great venues such as the legendary Metro, the Double Door, Schubas, ect would hurt by the effects of this ordinance. Stuggling up and coming bands would never be able to play any venues because of this proposed ordinance. I’m afraid that some of our legendary music clubs would go out of business or be driven from the city.
I am also afraid that smaller bands may bypass Chicago in favor of more music friendly cities in the Midwest such as Milwaukee and Minneapolis. Chicago is currently a top tier tour spot for ANY band touring the states. It is usually THE ONLY stop in the Midwest for a band. This ordinance in its current form would likely alter that.
Chicago is a great, great city. And one of the best things about it is the lively music scene and the nurturing of the arts our city is known for. Please don’t let Chicago become like most anonymous, corporate cites around the U.S. If this city is serious about attracting the Olympics here, an ordinance like this would hurt the economy, the music scene and the city’s reputation. Not the kind of thing you want when attracting an event of that stature.
Please don’t kill Chicago’s music scene. Reconsider the Promoter’s Ordinance in its current form and reject it.
4819. Eliseo Martinez | May 13, 2008 at 11:20 am
This is a ridiculous ordinance. No support!
4820. Bree Barnard | May 13, 2008 at 11:20 am
You have got to be kidding me, this is the most ridiculous law I have ever heard of. I’m 18 and have dedicated my life to music, I play bass, write my own lyrics, and scream. My dream is to play in Chicago, and if this passes I guess that’s just nothing for me. I already am struggling hard enough being a girl in this music scene because perfection is a must if your going to be a woman playing an instrument, this is just a giant brick wall thats set up in front of my way. Do they not realize how many amazing bands have come out of the Chicago scene? The Smashing Pumpkins, Fall Out Boy, The Academy Is, Chevelle, Alkaline Trio, etc etc. There’s an endless list, not even including all the underground bands that play their now that I would love to know. Chicago is the it place for music right now, and if you shut it off, where will the kids go? Music saves so many kids lives and you’d be putting a block on that, and then raising death rates? That sounds like a terrific idea to pass such a shitty law. You can go through your city and find tons of kids that used to cut themselves, be abused, go through depression and then turned to music and were brought back to this world. Music is the new generations antidote and putting all these laws in front of it is just plain blaspheme. Your taking away the culture of Chicago, the blood that pumps through it’s veins. Passing this ordinance would be a grave mistake to the cities strive.
4821. Sarah Shebaro | May 13, 2008 at 11:21 am
The energy and strength of Chicago’s underground music and its subculture is one of the elements that defines the city. Passing this ordinance would not only prevent local artist and promoters from making a living, it would deter any fresh, unique talent from stopping in Chicago. Sign this petition and keep this shit from happening!
4822. Sharmili Majmudar | May 13, 2008 at 11:21 am
As a non-profit organization’s director, a performer, and a supporter of events that benefit youth-led, women-led and people of color-led projects, I am concerned about the chilling effect this ordinance will have not only on the diversity and vibrancy of the Chicago cultural scene, but also on the ability of community-based groups – whether formal or informal – to raise awareness as well as funds. For the reasons stated, I oppose the ordinance, or at least demand a well-publicized and extended opportunity for Chicago residents to comment.
4823. Kyle Nix | May 13, 2008 at 11:21 am
I think it would be a major mistake to pass this ordinance! If passed, this ordinance would effectively destroy most opportunities that artistic musicians have for displaying their art forms. As a jazz musician, I can tell you that paying for expensive licenses to promote my music would be impossible. You must understand that these fees take money directly out of the pockets of musicians, most of whom are quite poor to begin with.
4824. Tim Burdick | May 13, 2008 at 11:21 am
This is a very bad idea. If this truly is a reaction to E2, perhaps the city should get more serious about fire codes, as in maximum occupancy in bars and clubs. those numbers are always exceeded.
don’t make it harder for the small business people.
4825. Veronica Hawkins | May 13, 2008 at 11:21 am
Who is the city hurting when they decide to enact all of these ridiculous laws? Itself. Chicago lawmakers are taking away money from the city’s pockets and handing out to the suburbs. Sounds unreasonable to me.
4826. Pat Curtis | May 13, 2008 at 11:21 am
Please vote NO! to the event promoters ordinance. It will kill storefront theater in Chicago.
4827. Lucy Sivov | May 13, 2008 at 11:21 am
I think this is absurd. I know the proposed law is supposed to be presented with intention to enhance and protect that which we already have, but it is evident that this law will do more harm than good. Don’t put a law into place that will hinder the people of Chicago and the world from enjoying one of Chicago’s best features, music!
4828. Rachel Austin | May 13, 2008 at 11:21 am
I strongly oppose this ordinance! It will kill what I love most about my city!
4829. mike finnerty | May 13, 2008 at 11:21 am
I strongly oppose this ordinance.
4830. Drew Potenza | May 13, 2008 at 11:22 am
What would Chicago be without The Smashing Pumpkins, or Fall Out Boy or any of it’s talent. Oppose this act, as it will snuff out the life of the chicago music scene. No promoter will want to pay $300,000 for liabilty insurance. It’s just not feasible. If we don’t stop this now, Chicago will no longer have an independent music scene. And what’s trying to produce revenue will actually stop it dead in it’s tracks. STOP THIS ORDINANCE!!
Drew Potenza
4831. Justin Reed | May 13, 2008 at 11:22 am
Chicago has a rich tradition of grass-roots music promotion that has created whole musical movements as well as spawned a livelihood and revenue source for many individuals and institutions. This legislation does nothing to directly address the roots of the E2 tragedy and will only serve to stifle creative and business interests that have persevered despite a hostile environment in city hall.
Justin Reed
Artist/Promoter/Patron of the arts
4832. Kate Drane | May 13, 2008 at 11:22 am
This ordinance is ridiculous. Local venues need to be supported, not discouraged.
4833. Bobby Price | May 13, 2008 at 11:22 am
…I’m shocked! thats so crazy! bad enough we have a title of “broadway in Chicago” ??? please! the artist and creative people make! this city what it is…
4834. Allan Evett | May 13, 2008 at 11:22 am
This ordinance, in its’ present form, is ridiculous. It “beats up” the small business owner in many, many ways…From the venue operators to the artists who make their living from live performance, this is a serious affront. I’m currently in the midst of a relocation from the area, and have scant little time to devote to any other concerns; but this issue IS important enough for me have sat down, read it over, and put my thoughts and feelings down. After all, Chicago did give me my start as a live performer. And, I owe my fellow artists and this great city at least that much.
Mayor Daley and the city council: You need to rework this – taking the time to involve the grass roots arts community in the process. Otherwise, the vibrant local music scene – which is so much a part of Chicago’s character – will be severely, if not irreparably damaged.
Allan Evett
4835. Amanda Richwalski | May 13, 2008 at 11:22 am
I oppose this ordinance….KEEP CHICAGO COOL!!!!
4836. Dean Corrin | May 13, 2008 at 11:23 am
Please don’t pass this unfair and regressive ordinance. It will seriously inhibit Chicago’s lively performing arts community without addressing legitimate safety concerns. It’s the wrong way to assure the safety of the venues.
4837. Mike Phillips | May 13, 2008 at 11:23 am
Your greedy corrupt money driven motives are going to flat out ruin and rob the wonderful dreams, ideas, passioins that will inspire hundreds of thousands of young people as they grow up. Alderman, you have no idea what music is, means, and can do for people, if you allow this to pass. Music is a wonderful form of entertainment that helps/motivates peoples lives. And now you will be taking that opportunity away. I will lose my respect for you if this non sense passes. Do the right/moral thing. If you allow this to happen, you will sadly be remembered for one of the biggest F’ up’s ever.
4838. William Steffey | May 13, 2008 at 11:23 am
It’s almost impossible to imagine Chicago without its thriving indie music scene. What’s scarier is to think what the next piece of legislation would be. Please do not let this ordinance pass. You think the kids at Fireside are rowdy now…
4839. Michal Lynn | May 13, 2008 at 11:23 am
Please no!
4840. Liz | May 13, 2008 at 11:23 am
I oppose the Event Promoters ordinance. How will people be introduced to different types of music, art, etc. without the smaller venues? It’s bad enough that TicketMaster controls (and outrageously prices) the live music scene.
4841. Sarah Buhler | May 13, 2008 at 11:23 am
How can the city of Chicago consider such a preposterous ordinance after the flop that was Looptopia? AND they want to try and have the Olympics here? Realize that the independent ARTS in Chicago is what really keeps the city and it’s people thriving.
4842. paula | May 13, 2008 at 11:23 am
I am a Chicago resident and enjoy local music at least weekly. What a shame for musicians, venue/bar owners, and patrons if this ordinance is put into effect. Unfortunately, this is another example of City Hall’s ignorance, stupidity and greed.
4843. Ernie Hendrickson | May 13, 2008 at 11:24 am
This is not the direction we need to be moving in as a people. We have become such an insanely litigious society. What is the real reason for this? Who is it benefiting? Whose pockets get filled up because of this? As an independent musician trying to build momentum, there are already so many obstacles to overcome, and now this?? NO! NO! NO!
4844. Holly Thomas | May 13, 2008 at 11:24 am
If you love America, if you value the First Amendment of the Constitution, you cannot support this monstrous ordinance. Our troops fighting around the world are standing up for American ideals; the spirited opportunity for culture to thrive in a variety of venues to speak to diverse, and unique audiences. Not only will this bill stifle artistic expression, but it will also suffocate entrepreneurship, a back bone of America’s economic foundation. This ordinance also functions as classicist Fascism , restricting those who cannot afford to attend events at larger venues because of high ticket prices. support culture, support the economy, support our freedoms, support all that make Chicago and America unique, PLEASE DO NOT SUPPORT THE EVENT PROMOTER ORDINANCE!!!
4845. Brad Harbaugh | May 13, 2008 at 11:24 am
This will go down with foie gras as one of the most idiotic things the city council has ever done. Hopefully anyone voting in favor of such a law will be held accountable at election time.
4846. Keri Disch | May 13, 2008 at 11:24 am
This ordinance will ruin the independent Chicago music scene. Add my name to the petition!
4847. Brian Lorey | May 13, 2008 at 11:24 am
Ridiculous. How was this even up for consideration. The small bands and entertainers are one of Chicago’s most important qualities. This can not be passed into law.
4848. Jaime Zurheide | May 13, 2008 at 11:24 am
I strongly oppose this ordinance.
4849. Erin Carr | May 13, 2008 at 11:24 am
This is an outrage! Please, powers of good, don’t let this happen!
4850. Kathleen Fitzgerald | May 13, 2008 at 11:25 am
This will only serve to drive more business AWAY from Chicago and out to the suburbs. is this what the city council wants? After the hike in sales tax and now this – the City of Chicago is becoming a very hostile environment for business. I had planned on opening a restaurant in Chicago. If this passes, I will take my restaurant to the burbs where stupidity like this does not exist. So Chicago city council – please listen – another small business will be driven OUT of the city. Do the right thing and do NOT pass this.
4851. Raja Burrows | May 13, 2008 at 11:25 am
No! This idea will cripple a city that’s on the cusp of international prominence. STRONGLY OPPOSE!
4852. Brad Locher | May 13, 2008 at 11:25 am
Please Vote NO on this ordinance as it hurts myself and my fellow performing musicians of Chicago. This sort of legislation destroys opportunities for the diverse milieu that make Chicago a unique and attractive place for lovers of all things aesthetic.
4853. Tom David | May 13, 2008 at 11:25 am
They can find other things to generate city revenue from. Art and noise don’t need to be part of this.
4854. Joshua Dumas | May 13, 2008 at 11:25 am
As a performer and occasional promoter I believe this ordinance will endanger Chicago’s rich music community and I urge the Council to vote it down!
4855. Mark Witthoefft | May 13, 2008 at 11:25 am
As a relevant newcomer to Chicago,and someone who has lived all over the US, I feel very strongly that any ordinance that stifles the creative and artistic independence of this great city must be challenged. This law would do great damage to the creative spirit of this city and make it a far less interesting and rewarding place to live.
4856. Marissa Durbin | May 13, 2008 at 11:25 am
This is utterly ridiculous and I oppose it completely; how are we to have any more independent music/theater/etc. if this ordinance is passed? Reject this unfair and staggeringly unbelievable ordinance. Chicago has enough laws that make absolutely no sense; let’s not intensify the problem.
4857. mike finnerty | May 13, 2008 at 11:26 am
I oppose this ordinance
4858. Eric Blum | May 13, 2008 at 11:26 am
Worst idea. Please have some common sense.
4859. Caitie | May 13, 2008 at 11:26 am
As an employee of two smaller music venues in this city and also a student majoring in music business, this is by far one of the WORST ideas ever!
It is insanity to limit the arts in this wonderful city, from sold out concerts to the musicals to the street performers, Chicago will suffer GREATLY without them.
This is NOT cool.
4860. Sam Heindl | May 13, 2008 at 11:27 am
As an actor in the city–and someone who does it for fun–it would be incredibly disappointing to render something I am passionate about obsolete. Chicago is all about its quirks and individuality–please don’t eliminate small theatre, musical performances and cultural events! It would be a real shame–and completely opposite of what I’ve come to love about Chicago!
4861. Steve O'Brien | May 13, 2008 at 11:27 am
These small shows help define Chicago. Don’t kill them.
4862. Jocelyn | May 13, 2008 at 11:27 am
Wow. Just when I think that the Chicago political scene can’t get any worse, the fat heads want to shut down public performers and take us back to Lawrence Welk.
Do not pass this ordinance. Do not strike down independent venues. Do not take the creative voice away!
4863. Will | May 13, 2008 at 11:27 am
This is ridiculous. What a stupid ordinance. Lets make sure these bastards don’t get a chance to take more of our money. I called my alderman in the 47th ward. I am asking what HIS opinion is. I am yet to hear back.
-Peace
4864. Ilana Percher | May 13, 2008 at 11:27 am
I am an infrequent booker/promoter of small shows around this town, and this ordinance, if passed and enforced, would tie my hands, because there’s no way I can purchase that license. The same goes for my friends who do far more to organize live music events on a small scale. None of us are in this for financial gain–we all have day jobs or worse, don’t–but as our time and energies permit, we take turns booking shows because we love live music. This collective action and sharing of responsibilities makes for a very supportive community, and allows art to grow.
With the passage of this ordinance, the structure of small music shows will have to change. Live music will be controlled by the few people who decide to make it their business to become event promoters, and invest $500 in a license. At best, this will curtail the diversity of musical offerings we currently enjoy in this city. At worst, it will push forward only artists and genres that are deemed to have market value by these few, cutting off venues for more experimental and potentially innovative artists and genres. This is so dangerous! Chicago’s music scene is so rich, please continue to support its collective nature, and no-vote the promoter ordinance.
Ilana Percher
Pilsen
4865. Jennifer Berg | May 13, 2008 at 11:27 am
Please do not choke the culture and creativity out of Chicago! Do not pass this ordinance!
4866. Kyra Foster | May 13, 2008 at 11:27 am
This would be terrible for the city of Chicago, please stop this ordinance!
4867. Daniel Raichel | May 13, 2008 at 11:27 am
Passing an ordinance that harms or even hinders Chicago’s vibrant music scene is not in the city’s best interest. It seems surprising to me that a city government so interested in making Chicago a major world city would take steps to quash one of the most outstanding and unique attributes it has to contribute.
4868. Ryan Smith | May 13, 2008 at 11:28 am
This ordinance is complete BS! Why do Chicago city officials constantly give the midwest a bad name. This vibrant city of artists in all disciplines at all levels is what makes this city great.Take that away and Chicago becomes a ghost town.Residents will leave in droves searching for a place that allows for freedom of expression and not creativity manafactured by the state.
4869. Jim D | May 13, 2008 at 11:28 am
Please no! This is absurd! There are hundreds of small venues that form the backbone of Chicagos Music Scene. From intimate evenings with the wife seeing Tina Dico at Schubas to so many rockin shows at places like the Beat Kitchen, Reggies and the Metro. These are the venues where bands cut their teeth and establish a following. Its ridiculous! This will stifle all that is music in Chicago. Whats next, we’re only allowed to see corporate sponsored music, with extortionate ticketmaster fees and dozens of 300lb gorilla security guards lurking about looking for something to justify their existence. Have some good sense, please.
4870. Andrew Tibbetts | May 13, 2008 at 11:28 am
stop this bill
4871. Daniel Bruce | May 13, 2008 at 11:28 am
I understand the necessity of ensuring safety for large crowds, but there must be a better and more direct way. This seems like a very haphazard piece of legislation. The music scene needs to be supported as much as possible, given the current state of the economy.
4872. Andre Foisy | May 13, 2008 at 11:28 am
I strongly oppose this ordinance.
4873. Holly | May 13, 2008 at 11:28 am
Ridiculous! I vote no!
4874. Keri | May 13, 2008 at 11:28 am
ABSOLUTELY NOT COOL MAN!!!!!!
4875. Abigail Kraft | May 13, 2008 at 11:28 am
I completely oppose this ridiculous ordinance.
4876. Bob Kessler | May 13, 2008 at 11:29 am
being against this is a no-brainer.
Come on, Aldermen and women – this would kill a thriving cultural scene and give Chicago a horrible reputation. Don’t do it. Plain and simple. Nuff said.
bk
4877. Kristin Bird | May 13, 2008 at 11:29 am
Where do I sign? Here?
Just another way the city bleeds its metro-area citizens dry. the social consciousness here is so out of whack, I might throw in the towel when I turn 26.
CHICAGO YOU ARE DRIVING AWAY YOUNG PEOPLE.
4878. Gabe McElwain | May 13, 2008 at 11:29 am
This doesn’t sound like a good idea. At the very least, I’d recommend further review of this ordinance and consultation of affected parties.
4879. Austin | May 13, 2008 at 11:29 am
I strongly oppose this ordinance.
4880. Jason Adams | May 13, 2008 at 11:30 am
Vote No
It would be a disaster
4881. Daniel | May 13, 2008 at 11:30 am
this sucks! no way!
4882. Sam W. | May 13, 2008 at 11:30 am
As a freelance musician considering Chicago as a place to move, this ordinance definitely makes me think twice.
4883. Robert Horn | May 13, 2008 at 11:30 am
This seems unconstitutional as well as absurd. The City Council has too many real issues to tackle and I am disappointed that it would waste time on this proposal. Can it be so short sighted not to see the harm this will cause in the vibrant art community?
4884. Bob Johnson | May 13, 2008 at 11:30 am
Chicago draws tourist and conventions for a variety of reasons, one of which is the superb live entertainment throughout the Chicago area.
Why enact legislation that will greatly impede entertainment and/or reduce the attraction to the city and the associated revenue stream?
Lets not be short-sighted.
4885. Collin | May 13, 2008 at 11:30 am
Um, what? Ix nay on the ordinance.
4886. Kat | May 13, 2008 at 11:30 am
This will limit Chicago’s cultural and creative scene, limit our economy, limit tourism, and our ability to exist as a cultural mecca in the midwest. What’s next? A dancing ban?
4887. Stacey Deutsch | May 13, 2008 at 11:31 am
I am outraged by this idea and will make sure to vote against any elected offical that supports this measure.
4888. Rose S | May 13, 2008 at 11:31 am
I am strongly opposed to this ordinance. Please do not allow this to pass!
4889. George Davis | May 13, 2008 at 11:31 am
Please vote against passing this ordinance.
4890. Craig | May 13, 2008 at 11:31 am
This is unfortunate. How does this ordinance improve safety at this venues? It seems like the only safety that is provided is to the insurance claims. Wouldn’t it be more beneficial to reinforce the fire codes for these venues, vs making them pay more money.
4891. Jessica Benardello | May 13, 2008 at 11:32 am
This will kill the music, theater, and art that matter to the majority of people in Chicago, not to mention putting people like myself who work in small theaters out of a job. I oppose this ordinance.
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4893. Ixtaccihuatl P. Menchaca | May 13, 2008 at 11:32 am
It is UNCONSCIONABLE that Chicago would place what in effect
becomes a HUGE piece of masking tape on all the various venues that provide music and entertainment all over Chicago! If this had been in place back in the days of jazz and blues, where would the city be today? Those establishments/gathering places/watering holes would have had no means by which to promote their music.
In more currant situations, what would that have meant for musicians like Billy Corgan of The Smashing Pumkins? We have the ability to continue to attract many many musicians from througout the country and the world. How in the world is it good for the city to pass this ordinance? In an effort to CONTROL musicians and other talents, while collecting monies
and supposedly helping to make things “safer”, the city is tossing all those musicians out with the bathwater! Think of all the talents we represent! And we are talking about venue of many ethnicities. This is a bad idea which may have begun with good intentions, but it is WRONG, against our civil liberties
FREE SPEECH and many other rights of citizens. PLEASE DO NOT PASS THIS ORDINANCE!!! Why should places like Austing Texas and NYC get all the credit for being springboards to the talents of the future????
4894. Paul Harris | May 13, 2008 at 11:32 am
This is ridiculous! Music in Chicago is such an integral part of its history, and it has put this city on the map all over the world. How can fresh talent and music grow here without being able to plant its seeds? Not to mention that music acts from other parts of the country will have a much harder time coming here (and therefore, probably won’t want to) I can only hope that city hall will make the right choice that benefits everyone!
4895. krysta b. | May 13, 2008 at 11:32 am
please dont pass this, creativity through art and musci is what makes chicago such a great place! this ordinence is out of control! do not pass this, or some of the greatest aspects of chicago will be ruined!
4896. Linda Weseman | May 13, 2008 at 11:32 am
For every well-intended reason that this bill was introduced, there must be 3x as many underhanded motives. It’s being rushed for a reason.
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4898. Pat Arnold | May 13, 2008 at 11:33 am
Will we only have big entertainment houses for our tourists, who come to get a flavor of Chicago’s cultural offerings? What a blue day for Chicago. Please reconsider.
4899. Rob Sullivan | May 13, 2008 at 11:33 am
Dear City Council,
Please don’t vote for this misguided legislation.
Thanks,
A first ward tax payer and voter.
4900. Jack Swain | May 13, 2008 at 11:33 am
This is an ill-conceived attempt to levy a HUGE entertainment tax under the guise of a safety concern and if it is applied to artists as indicated in the bill, it will effectively eliminate the ability of the struggling performing artist from operating in the city. I am one of those performing artists. I have never used pyrotechnics EVER, nor would I ever attempt it. In my years as a performer, there has not been a single incident where my performance has endangered anyone.
I cannot believe that the city council could even draft legislation like this with an invasion of privacy demand like requiring fingerprints. How dare they think that we should passively submit to this outrageous requirement. If there is any chance that this bill gets passed as submitted it should result in a huge class action suit.
I would encourage everyone to think twice about who votes on something like this and ensure that they are never given another opportunity to harm their constituency like this ever again.
4901. John Fisher | May 13, 2008 at 11:33 am
Chicago is considered a cultural Mecca internationally. This would effectively shut that down.
4902. Mike Feirstein | May 13, 2008 at 11:33 am
Please don’t pass this legislation. Where is the sanity in the governance of this city ?
4903. Trina A | May 13, 2008 at 11:33 am
This blows. Bad idea all-around. I am strongly opposed to this.
4904. Jenny Seay | May 13, 2008 at 11:34 am
I am strongly opposed to this ordinance. The appeal of Chicago’s local arts scene is the wide variety of options it presents. I implore you to allow that to continue.
4905. Ron Reason | May 13, 2008 at 11:34 am
This sucks. Chicago losing its small clubs would be like losing its soul. For a city with a mayor who has put up such a front to support “arts” and “fashion,” this comes as a surprise. Daley needs to know it all goes hand in hand; this domino falls and a lot of others fall with it.
4906. Molly Myers | May 13, 2008 at 11:34 am
Add my name.
4907. Mike Iannac | May 13, 2008 at 11:34 am
It would be shameful to bring such a thriving music scene to a stop.
4908. Kat Keers | May 13, 2008 at 11:34 am
As a musician and a resident of Chicago, this whole thing makes me sick. The whole reason I moved to Chicago was for the music scene, and now it’s being threatened? Chicago is known world wide as a huge base for music and theater. Our city thrives on it’s deep cultural roots. What kind of city would this be without places like the Metro, or Double Door or the Athenaeum? A very very boring one, that’s for sure. So many local bands/performers have moved up in the industry because of wonderful places such as these. The art world is tough to break into, and without the exposure of these venues, it’s that much tougher. Plus, who wants to live in a city that only boasts Broadway shows and “major” recording artists? The local music/theater scene is what gives this city its substance. Not only do locals appreciate it, but it brings in tons of tourism annually, boosting Chicago’s economy. You lose the independent art scene, you lose a lot.
This is such B.S. I can’t believe this law is even in discussion.
4909. Frank Alongi | May 13, 2008 at 11:34 am
It’s pathetic that we all (musicians) must take a hit because the city’s own bureaucracy couldn’t work in time to close down E2. If they had then this wouldn’t be happening. It only affects the small club owners which are still trying to overcome the smoking ban. If this gets passed they might as well just close shop, whats the point right?
I oppose wholeheartedly.
4910. Tanya | May 13, 2008 at 11:35 am
Culture is what makes a city beautiful, why would anyone want to take that away? I want my future children to experience the great music/art/theatre that I have. If that goes into effect then people wouid go into the city less and honestly isn’t that what our government wants to do? Make money?
4911. Claudette Miller | May 13, 2008 at 11:35 am
This is really crazy as an artist I feel betrayed Chicago is the home of the Blues and people come form all over the world just to hear some real Blues as well as other genres of music, art, poetry etc
Why all of a sudden now we need to do this unthinkable thing?
I am sure that it is all about money that is always the case Please VOTE NO TO THIS ORDIANCE
4912. Amy | May 13, 2008 at 11:35 am
That’s an absolutely ridiculous requirement. Chicago has such an amazing arts and music scene and the government is trying to stifle it. The best works always start out small before they get big, hindering the little guys will eventually even kill the big guys too. Don’t pass this into law!
4913. Marni Sabin | May 13, 2008 at 11:35 am
As a lover of live music and a frequenter of clubs like Schuba’s, Double Door, Metro, Subterranean, and other small Chicago venues, I am highly opposed to this ordinance.
Please don’t stifle Chicago’s culture.
4914. Nadia Gaya | May 13, 2008 at 11:35 am
Do not pass this ordinance, it would be deadly to music, theater, art and so many other cultural happenings in this city. Why shut down such a good thing?
4915. Ananda Fine | May 13, 2008 at 11:36 am
This is an unbelievable overreaction to an isolated irresponsible (and tragic) incident. Elimination of a thriving music community is not the answer. What is the point of living in a culture that only supports mainstream music accessible to those willing to spend exorbitant amounts of money only to stand among throngs of people, awash in the boring sounds of pop music?
4916. Joe Winston | May 13, 2008 at 11:37 am
This ordinance would be terrible for the whole city, not just for music lovers but for everyone affected by the huge loss of revenue from attendance at small concerts, and all the ancillary benefits.
Chicago doesn’t do so much manufacturing anymore. Arts and culture are important economic engines for the city. At the same time, we must allow small businesses and small venues to thrive for this part of the economy to function at all.
4917. William Schultz | May 13, 2008 at 11:37 am
Boooooooooooooo. I am against this regulation. Tax us somewhere else.
4918. Helen Fedchak | May 13, 2008 at 11:37 am
This would stifle one of the best things about Chicago: the wonderful variety of live entertainment on offer. I think passing this ordinance would be very detrimental to Chicago’s entertainment industry.
4919. Amanda | May 13, 2008 at 11:37 am
this is bull shit!
4920. Claire Dougherty | May 13, 2008 at 11:37 am
I am totally against this.
As somebody who loves music from the chicago scene, I am completely and utterly opposed to this ordinance.
Think of the music lovers.
Along with the bands who grew up in this scene.
4921. Kristi | May 13, 2008 at 11:37 am
Another gimmick for the city to make money.
4922. Patricia Brower | May 13, 2008 at 11:37 am
Add my name to list
4923. Matthew | May 13, 2008 at 11:38 am
Please vote against this ordinance.
4924. Pat O'Sullivan | May 13, 2008 at 11:38 am
As someone who frequently visits smaller venues to see live music/theater, I find this appalling. Doesn’t our City Council have better ways to waste taxpayer’s money?
4925. Mary Bruninga | May 13, 2008 at 11:38 am
Please don’t pass this ordinance. This only hurts our artists and makes it harder for them to spread culture and entertainment to our community.
4926. Sylvia Alvarado | May 13, 2008 at 11:38 am
In a place where performance art was founded, this ordinance would cripple the birthplace of the oldest forms of expression! I say No! Keep politics out of Art!
4927. BenL | May 13, 2008 at 11:38 am
What’s the “Home of the Blues” going to do when all of the bluesmen are living in the streets without a place to play? Bands that play smaller clubs don’t even make $500 a show.
4928. Thomas | May 13, 2008 at 11:38 am
First it was Lounge Ax and now they want to do this to other cool rock places. This is ridiculous and offensive. It makes me want to move out of the city and go somewhere where the music culture is respected.
4929. Kevin Ambron | May 13, 2008 at 11:38 am
Chicago has always been known as a city which caters to the arts. With this ordinance being passed, the Chicagoland arts community is going to decrease an incredible amount.
Kevin Ambron
DFT Records
4930. AStrid Will Eat You | May 13, 2008 at 11:38 am
Thats ridiculous, Great bands like Fall Out Boy were born there, definatly blogging about this, Thats messed up. surely they cant do that
4931. Tony Capecci | May 13, 2008 at 11:38 am
Please do not pass this ordinance. I am appalled at the language and the ideas contained within. Please do not ruin this country’s most diverse and culturally rich city with these ridiculous and unnecessary rules.
4932. Brian Morgan | May 13, 2008 at 11:38 am
i’ve been to tons and tons of shows at these small venues in chicago along with numerous other small venues. They have been my life and i wouldn’t want that to be taken away in any way.
4933. Michael Jantz | May 13, 2008 at 11:38 am
Horrible.
There is no basis for such an ordinance, other than to divert entertainment revenue into the pockets of big-time entertainment companies, who obviously have the money to throw at lobbying for such an unAmerican ordinance.
I ONLY go to performances at small venues. If this ordinance is an effort to bring citizens away from small entertainers and toward big-time entertainment, it’s not going to work. I’d rather stay home than send my money to low-quality, overproduced mainstream performance.
This ordinance is bad for Chicago as a city and as a collective of citizens. It will decrease activity within the city, giving outsiders less reason to bring their dollars into Chicago. And it’s going to potentially deprive everyone in the area of good entertainment.
DO NOT LET THIS PASS!
4934. Carmelo Espanola | May 13, 2008 at 11:39 am
As a veteran of the Chicago Metal scene, this is not only a slap in the face for our scene but for Chicago music as a whole. This is very disrespectful and a great disservice to the artists who have and will define Chicago’s music and arts scene. I will not tolerate such an atrocious measure by the city.
I vote NO to this ordinance.
4935. Phil P. | May 13, 2008 at 11:39 am
I strongly oppose this ordinance.
4936. Brian Kirst | May 13, 2008 at 11:39 am
The founders of these events often do so at a financial deficit as it is. They already lose money but are passionate enough about the arts to continue. These events are vital to the community and promote not only the arts themselves, but health and well being in general, as well. Please stop this harmful and ridiculous ordinance. Brian Kirst, Chicago Free Press
4937. Joel Berk | May 13, 2008 at 11:39 am
I put on a lot of independent shows, and this would make my life very difficult. It’s complete bullshit.
4938. Elina Hartikainen | May 13, 2008 at 11:40 am
What?? This is absolutely ridiculous! Please, please, don’t pass this ordinance!!!
4939. Craig | May 13, 2008 at 11:40 am
This is an absurd idea inhibiting an industry that is not problematic, please say no!
4940. J | May 13, 2008 at 11:40 am
Garbage.
If this is actually enforced (if passed) it will destroy chicago’s nightlife. What do you guys want to do today? Go hang out at the fratboy bar or the overpriced bottle bar/club? Oh, go check out this killer local band for $5? Too bad… tickets are $75 now to pay for promoter fees.
4941. Shari | May 13, 2008 at 11:40 am
I oppose the ordinance.
4942. Todd Ferguson | May 13, 2008 at 11:40 am
This would be absolutely shameful. We need to support and sustain our local music community.
4943. Suzette Macey | May 13, 2008 at 11:40 am
I think this ordinance is ridiculous. To limit art in this community would be a travesty. Please vote against this.
4944. Chris Schonberger | May 13, 2008 at 11:41 am
The city council again is looking for ways to take tax dollars and spend them. Please vote against this ordinance and make better use of your time
4945. David Lloyd | May 13, 2008 at 11:41 am
Culture is represented by many things such as music and art. This ordinance will effectively crush all instances of culture and will set Chicago into a downward spiral of strictly corporate identity and homogenized life. Chicago will loose all standing amongst the rest of the country as an art, music and creative breeding ground and will face boycotting by many artists representing many more walks of life and thought. Cities like Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Kansas City, St. Louis, Indianapolis and many more will surpass Chicago in their art and music scenes as well as in their revenues derived from those scenes.
4946. Kevin Kilroy | May 13, 2008 at 11:41 am
I oppose this ordinance. Trying to enforce this will cost the city and taxpayers more money than it is worth. An obstacle like this will push Chicago into the background of cultural relevancy, decreasing tourism and more importantly the rush of artists and youth who are excited to move here. Please consider all the negative effects that will extend form an action like this.
4947. Michael Boyd | May 13, 2008 at 11:41 am
Spend your efforts on dealing with the bureaucracy that allowed E2 to stay open despite numerous code violations. Small business as a whole is not responsible for the city’s failing in this matter. Act fairly!
Michael Boyd
Music Photographer
VenusZine
4948. Tim D. | May 13, 2008 at 11:41 am
This is absolutely ridiculous!!!!!! Find another way to tax the city and make money. Completely idiotic and just goes to show that politicians either do NOT have a clue what is for the betterment of their communities or they simply are money hungry and do not care!
4949. rick sherry | May 13, 2008 at 11:41 am
if this proposal is passed, it would be a huge crush to the culture of chicago.
do not pass this proposal.
4950. Michelle Daugherty | May 13, 2008 at 11:41 am
This is a bad idea – it’s hard enough to maintain artist independence. No!
4951. Matt Dwyer | May 13, 2008 at 11:41 am
As a former show performer and comedy show producer in Chicago I find this ordinance offensive. Historically Chicago has been a great place for performers of any genre to cut their teeth. For decades we have lead the world in innovating comedy, theater, art and music. This absurd ordinance would greatly hinder not only the creative culture of Chicago, but the world.
4952. Jim O'Brien | May 13, 2008 at 11:41 am
I am opposed to this ordinance. It has the potential to kill the whole Chicago music scene which is part of Chicago’s history. This is a horrible idea.
4953. aaron gutierrez | May 13, 2008 at 11:41 am
i vote NO!
i resist the killing of chicago.
4954. Jerry Reyes | May 13, 2008 at 11:41 am
Outrageous. Another tactic that will weaken Chicago’s cultural output and put it way behind other more progressive cities of the world. There is so much potential and history here and stifling the cultural scene further is insulting to residents of the city,
4955. Kyle A | May 13, 2008 at 11:41 am
Please put my name on the petition.
4956. B Leaver | May 13, 2008 at 11:41 am
and another, even more dangerous, black market is born.
i know! let’s start another ‘war’ on something.
going to go vomit now…
4957. Desmond Ffrench | May 13, 2008 at 11:41 am
City Council,
Please reconsider passing this ordinance. In its current form it is far too vague, and will cripple the small club musicians that make this city’s music scene one of the best. I sincerely hope to see this defeated. As a musician and Chicagoan, I oppose this ordinance that threatens small time artists. This is someting that people are passionate about! It will come back to haunt the Aldermen who proposed and voted for it.
4958. Declan Brophy | May 13, 2008 at 11:41 am
I oppose this ordinance 100%!
4959. Bob Livingston | May 13, 2008 at 11:42 am
Strike this ordinace down – Why is government so short sighted and ignorant.
DO NOT SUPPORT THIS
4960. Aly Greaves | May 13, 2008 at 11:42 am
This is madness.
4961. Michael Levin | May 13, 2008 at 11:42 am
As a professional musician I am outraged by this proposal — an ordinance which will effectively destroy much of the music and theatre in Chicago. This is an idea with enormous consequences for Chicago arts and Chicago artists — and should be rejected.
4962. Daniel James Opperman | May 13, 2008 at 11:42 am
This ordinance is just a horrible idea. It will more than cut the number of Chicago music promoters in half. This ordinance will destroy the entire culture of Chicago. As not only a musician, but a fan of music who goes to lots and lots of musical events in your fine city, I beg of you please do not pass this into law.
4963. Tonja Jacobi | May 13, 2008 at 11:42 am
this is outrageous, and smacks of typical Chicago patronage, if not outright corruption.
4964. mike finnerty | May 13, 2008 at 11:42 am
How ironic that an incident at a HIP-HOP event with a DEE-JAY…no LIVE BAND no guitars no saxes no bass no drums no trumpets no violins ….you get the picture…how ironic and pathetic that LIVE MUSIC will suffer because of an incident at an event that featured a DEE-JAY!!!! One question: Which politically connected insurance company will the promoters have to go to for the proposed insurance? How much money did they give to the last mayoral campaign? Why do musicians have to suffer because the city diddn’t do it’s job enforcing the rules that were there in the first place?
4965. Kristen Conley | May 13, 2008 at 11:42 am
Please don’t tax the little man. I love to go to shows in Chicago and it would be a shame to ruin the fun. For years Chicago has been known for having a large number of entertainment options for both young and old. I would like to keep all entertainment tax and reg. to the larger venues, let’s try United Center, Soldier Field?!? If you crunch the number’s I’m sure the city would find that the larger events will make them more $$ which is all that matters to them anyways.
4966. Nathan Armstrong | May 13, 2008 at 11:42 am
This ordinance cannot possibly be in the city’s best interest. Please rethink this new policy, for the sake of Chicago’s vital and vibrant culture.
4967. Jose Sanchez | May 13, 2008 at 11:43 am
Look at Michelle Morales. She’s a Chicago girl with an amazing ability to play Cello. She has a Master’s degree AND performed at the Grammy’s. What this ordinance will do to the rest of Chicago’s talent is wipe them out. They’ll move, take their ability to amaze with them, and HATE Chicago for the rest of their lives. Is that what we want? Do we want all of Chicago’s artists to move to INDIANA!? Hell no. As a musician and strong supporter of the arts, I am AGAINST the ordinance and think its ridiculous to ask so much out of a society that is beginning to fade. Let the kids play and paint, give them the tools to grow and provide good jobs for them. Actually, we should all help each other too. This ordinance will drive Columbia College and IADT right into the ground.
4968. mindy meyers | May 13, 2008 at 11:43 am
unbelievable that this ordinance is even a consideration…please VOTE NO!
4969. David J Derdiger1 | May 13, 2008 at 11:43 am
This may be the single most disturbing piece of bureaucracy I’ve ever seen at the local level. As an artist and musician, and friend of many active in the local art and music scene, I cannot allow this kind of treachery to occur. Chicago is one of the most thriving local music spots in the country, and on the globe. Bands like Russian Circles, and Make Believe, local music geniuses, would not be able to afford such licenses should they ever hope to live off of their craft, rather than be put into debt by it. This is an outrage. Anyone who approves of this either falls into one of a couple categories: 1) Uncultured; 2) Ignorant; 3) Oblivious; 4) Greedy with their dirty little hands deep in the interests of gross profits; or 5) Promoters of corporate sponsored cultural imperialism (cough, cough, CLEAR CHANNEL, cough, cough)
Should Chicago approve such a horrendous movement to destroy its own bustling local art and culture, officials can be almost assured that there will be riots in the streets.
djd
4970. specialkevin | May 13, 2008 at 11:43 am
If this gets passed it will be a very sad day for Chicago culture. I have been in Chicago for the past 5 years and some of my favorites shows would never have happened if this law gets passed.
4971. Rebecca DeCoster | May 13, 2008 at 11:43 am
This is absurd! Is Chicago really going to try and ruin its potential to ever compete with cities like Ausin, Nashville, Memphis? If this passes, DeKalb is going to be the have to be the new sprawling center of culture in the midwest. Is that not the most ridiculous thing you ever heard? This ordinance is like the city of Chicago shooting itself in the foot. Who wants to see the Olympics in a city where it would be virtually impossible to see a band at a nightclub???
4972. Meredith Hatcher | May 13, 2008 at 11:43 am
A blanket law under the guise of “safety” would kill the wonderful independent music scene that everyone in Chicago benefits from. I am strongly opposed to this ordinance. Please think responsibly in this matter and find a way to increase safety without eliminating the independent arts altogether in the city.
4973. David Bell | May 13, 2008 at 11:43 am
this knee jerk reaction to one terrible incident would be a travesty to this wonderful vibrant town. it would suddenly become the wal-mart of entertainment capitols, downgraded from the Taj Mahal.
4974. Joe Cuddy | May 13, 2008 at 11:43 am
I oppose this ordinance 100%!!!
4975. Bernard Navarro | May 13, 2008 at 11:43 am
I am angry that our city would even consider passing an ordinance like this. I’ve already contacted my alderman voicing my opinion on this matter. If our City Council had any sense at all they would unanimously vote “NO” on this absurd ordinance.
I can’t imagine my favorite Irish Pubs not having live music.
4976. Jamie McKenney | May 13, 2008 at 11:43 am
Chicago’s art and music life depends on this ordinance being stopped.
4977. Chris Doyen | May 13, 2008 at 11:43 am
I, like everyone else, am strongly opposed to the proposed ordinance.
4978. AStrid Will Eat You | May 13, 2008 at 11:44 am
also, i was to young to understand most of this so i got someone to explain it lol
anyways, gotta be more ways to help
4979. Michael Gaertner | May 13, 2008 at 11:44 am
This flawed legislation will only hurt patrons of Chicago’s vibrant music culture. The city should work with the community to redraft a fair law that will ensure public safety without harming legitimate business.
4980. Jenni Spinner | May 13, 2008 at 11:44 am
Utterly ridiculous, and sure to kill Chicago nightlife in record time. Hopefully this ordinance will die as quick a death as the teeny-baggies ordinance. We can’t have Chicago’s music scene because of this misguided piece of legislation.
4981. Brant W | May 13, 2008 at 11:44 am
I do not approve this ordinance. It will do more harm than good. There must be a way to reform this ordinance in a way that it can ensure safe events without putting a major strain on smaller venues.
4982. Shelbee J. | May 13, 2008 at 11:44 am
This is a ridiculous ordinance. There is so much amazing music and culture that has been born in small Chicago venues – why kill that?
Please vote against passing this ordinance.
4983. Tim | May 13, 2008 at 11:44 am
This is abhorrent behavior by representatives of a city who claim to pride themselves on their cultural diversity and opportunity. Passing this ordinance would severely limit the diverse cultural landscape expressed in Chicago’s vibrant local and small venue music scene. Vote “NO” to this proposed ordinance.
4984. Trish Ward | May 13, 2008 at 11:44 am
Please do not do this to our vibrant and exciting city! It’s so unthinkable I can’t even grasp it fully. You will help destroy countless livlihoods not to mention drive people away…….Don’t make Chicago some boring cookie cutter suburb. There are ways to ensure safety without killing off all the wonderful small venues…..
4985. Kris Carlsson | May 13, 2008 at 11:45 am
This ordinance is and I quote “ Silly, silly, silly, silly, silly! It is just silly!.
4986. LiveFastDieSlow (Renato) | May 13, 2008 at 11:45 am
It’s of no small coincidence that this ordinance is targeting the small DIY venues and theatres and exempting the larger 500+ seaters.
4987. Keith | May 13, 2008 at 11:45 am
This is madness. How can small companies survive while paying these outrageous fees? And where does all this money go to? What a load of bull. It frightens me that some lawmakers must feel that this law could even be considered. This has to stop!
4988. Sara Winey | May 13, 2008 at 11:46 am
Insane. We already have the seemingly endless airway constraints and the buying out of most larger music venues (thanks clear channel). I haven’t listened to the radio in years. Don’t take our independent music community away. These artists are already struggling as it is. Seriously!
4989. Mick Laymon | May 13, 2008 at 11:46 am
I am a freelance musician and songwriter in Horner Park and just received an email from a colleague concerning the proposed Event Promoters Ordinance. I strongly protest this ordinance as it will effectively eliminate our ability to share our music with the people in our neighborhoods who support us. Please do not pass this ordinance.
Sincerely,
Mick Laymon
http://www.polykromesolutions.com
4990. Dylan | May 13, 2008 at 11:46 am
Chicago currently has a strong local/small market music scene. This ordinance would stop most of those starving, amazing, up-and-coming bands from sharing their music and getting the attention they deserve.
4991. Kristen Cox | May 13, 2008 at 11:46 am
This is catastrophic legislation if passed. It will be the end to informal arts in Chicago which is one of the main reasons I live here. Don’t Pass this BilL!
4992. Bridget K | May 13, 2008 at 11:47 am
This is outrageous! This would strangle to death a huge part of what makes Chicago such a wonderful place to live. Do not let this happen.
4993. dan cumberland | May 13, 2008 at 11:47 am
What a horrible idea. This would make being an independent artist in chicago almost impossible. And if not impossible, than really really boring. Once again Art and Freedom of expression end up being controlled by those who have $. We need independent artist and promotors.
4994. Claire Forster | May 13, 2008 at 11:47 am
this is one of the stupidest ordinances i have ever read. do not vote for it!!!
4995. Scott Foval | May 13, 2008 at 11:47 am
Once again, the powers that be (Daley and his minions) have decided that the way to get more money out of every little thing in this city is to pinch promoters, DJ’s and anyone else that they can. Never mind that most of the events that will have to pay under this ordinance barely make money to begin with, yet bring an incredible amount of activity in residual business (rentals, space, temp employment) for the city and its residents. Never mind that most of the people affected by this simply are people who put on events without major interaction with the police or the Mayor’s Office of Special Events (purportedly whom is putting this crazy scheme out there). Never mind that most REAL promoters don’t have “E2″ scenarios because they know how to treat people. This is a blatant attempt to offset the E2 settlement, the numerous CPD-related lawsuit settlements, and the DEBT this city is in; by balancing it on the backs of the creative class in the city. Why don’t they do what they’re supposed to do and start CHARGING BIG BUSINESS for the resources THEY eat up in our great metropolis? Because those corporations funnel TONS of money to campaigns…again the little people (voters) get screwed!
Attention Aldermen and Alderwomen…VOTE FOR THIS THING AT YOUR OWN POLITICAL PERIL. WE’RE WATCHING. SHOW THE MAYOR WHERE THE LINE IS ON THIS CRAP…IF YOU DON’T YOU’RE JUST LIKE HIM AND NEED TO BE VOTED OUT.
Scott Foval
http://www.scottsbigmouth.com / http://scottsbigmouth.blogspot.com
scott@foval.com
4996. Jennifer Meares | May 13, 2008 at 11:48 am
This is idiotic. Who would this benefit? I am against this and everyone else who values Chicago should be, too.
4997. K Null | May 13, 2008 at 11:48 am
Throughout my life, one of my most consistent and favorite memories has been live music in Chicago. I would hate to see it changed or altered by requirements that limit new artists from sharing their talent with the general public.
It seems as if these new boundaries will also result in a greater cost to consumers…again, preventing the general public from accessing music.
4998. Tony Orant | May 13, 2008 at 11:48 am
Enforcing codes already on the book would be more effective, and frankly should be the focus of this effort. Allowing E2 to continue doing business while in repeated violation of codes was a disaster waiting to happen; but a knee jerk reaction to the tragedy won’t address the real cause: negligent business owners had zero regard for their client base, and gambled with the safety of their customers (and lost). The City should bear responsiblity for not closing the doors of a repeat violator.
For those establishments who are in compliance, this is an economic terrorist attack. I’ve already seen clubs hit hard by the no-smoking ban (which I actually appreciate and endorse); the rising price of oil has already impacted further on these same nightclubs which are tightening their entertainment “budgets”. For someone like me, who has to contract sound and lights, I’ve already been hit another 15% per gig for gas “surcharges” (just like UPS and FedEX have done), but no one is raising my wages (either in my “day job” or in my performance business). Tack another $2000 a year for my “license” to perform, and I have to really rethink whether I can afford continuing.
Most musicians will just disregard that fee (as will clubs); but when The Man decides it’s time to pay the piper, you’ll find many establishments just say “no” to live performance.
As consumers, it’s another harbinger of things to come: As the ordinance is currently written, it gives Clear Channel and Live Nation even more monopoly ability, especially if the ordinance is enforced, which will result in those that can’t afford the license to either discontinue live performance or close their doors (especially true of “off-off-Broadway performance art). They (Clear Channel/Live Nation) control more than the lion’s share of live entertainment nationally; and the fact that the govt. allowed Clear Channel to get involved in live performance while they stay in control of radio, was abhorrent and misguided, not only to me as a musician, but to me as a fan of live music. And to you, me and everyone else as consumers, this should raise another red flag because you know what will happen: already exorbitant ticket prices will continue to go up as competition becomes even more severely limited, if not non-existent.
For those of us not on in the top tiers of the industry, this really threatens our continued ability and right to assemble.
4999. Kim Duncan | May 13, 2008 at 11:48 am
Passing this ordinance would be a complete and utter tradgedy. It effects an entire community of people, and a large community of people at that. This is a direct attack on the arts scene in this city, something we have come to pride ourselves on.
Not only would bands and artists not be able to share their work, many people would lose their jobs if this passes. Venues would ultimately have to close and everyone employed within them would be out of work. Is this something the city considers when discussing this ordinance?
It just seems like a sad, discriminating plan that was not thought all the way through.
5000. Danny Lee Hill | May 13, 2008 at 11:48 am
Chicagos music and art scene is a big part of what makes Chicago a great city. This could destroy a lot local business and make this a very sterile place to live. As an artist myself, a big part of why Im in this city is because of creative culture that many of us love so much.
5001. MARTY YALOFF | May 13, 2008 at 11:48 am
WELCOME TO COMMUNISM EVERYONE! WE HAVE KIDS IN THE STREETS KILLING EACH OTHER (AND OTHER PEOPLE), BUT LET’S WORRY ABOUT LOCAL ENTERTAINMENT. SURE, WE’VE GOT OUR PRIORITIES STRAIGHT. OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE LEGISLATORS WHO HAVE THEIR HEADS SO FAR UP THEIR OWN BACKSIDES, THEY THINK THEY’RE SEEING LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL! CONSTITUTION, HUH!? BILL OF WHAT? RIGHTS?
FREEDOM OF SPEECH, NO MONOPOLIES? NEVER HEARD OF THAT COMRADE, THOSE THINGS ONLY HAPPEN IN COUNTRIES WHERE PEOPLE GIVE THEIR LIVES TO PRESERVE FREEDOM.
5002. Alexandra Jones | May 13, 2008 at 11:49 am
Chicago has an amazing, vibrant, and strong music and arts community. I’d say 90% of this is DIY and underground culture, which exists outside of the mainstream or big funded city projects. This is what makes our city absolutely amazing…independent artistic collaboration in the spirit of DIY. If you take this away, you will absolutely decimate the independent music and art scene. As a graduate of the School of the Art Institute of Chicago and having been an avid member of the local music community for many years, I know that Chicago loves its independent promoters. They are the glue that bind the music arts community together. Don’t destroy that, especially without giving said community an opportunity to voice its opinion.
5003. Phil F. | May 13, 2008 at 11:49 am
The music scene is one of the best things about Chicago. This ordinance would cause more problems than it would solve.
5004. Morgan Jencius | May 13, 2008 at 11:49 am
Vote “NO” against this ordinance.
One of the great things about Chicago is its variety of smaller music, theater and entertainment venues. Such an ordinance would effectively kill the diverse musical, arts and entertainment culture of Chicago that attracts so many young and old people to live in the city.
Please educate your other Alderman on the negative effect this ordinance would have on the city’s culture, population and tax base, and demand that they also vote against this proposed ordinance.
5005. Ariel Samara | May 13, 2008 at 11:49 am
I oppose this ordinance, it will kill Chicago culture and what makes it great.
5006. Art Bamford | May 13, 2008 at 11:49 am
“A community without artists is not a true community, only people living in the same vicinity.” -Byrne Piven, from the Piven Theatre Workshop in Evanston, 1929-2002
If you pass this ordinance plan on a lot more street musicians…
5007. Anna Steinhoff | May 13, 2008 at 11:50 am
I oppose this ordinance. Please vote against it!
5008. Kate Heringhaus | May 13, 2008 at 11:50 am
I oppose the event promoters ordinance.
5009. Sidney Tate | May 13, 2008 at 11:50 am
I am against this law. It would be devastating to all cultures not to be able to express and share their creativity and life experiences through music. It is said that music soothes the savage beast. What are we doing here… letting the beast free?!
5010. henry rivera | May 13, 2008 at 11:51 am
Chicago already has a struggling music scene compared to NY & LA, this will only drive more talent out of our grand city. Smaller acts will get punished by this ordinance and may force some clubs to close down. Who exactly is this protecting? Further regulation = less creative outlets.
5011. Melissa | May 13, 2008 at 11:51 am
The Chicago music scene is the main reason I moved back here after being gone for many years. The music and entertainment is a huge part of many, many people lives. The city will suffer, not to mention all the people who make a living doing this. Why do this? FInd something else to tax us on. Just not the music.
5012. Colleen Heaton | May 13, 2008 at 11:51 am
I firmly oppose this ridiculous ordinance!!!!
5013. Roger McCubbins | May 13, 2008 at 11:51 am
The idea behind this ordinance is absurd. It’s haphazardly constructed with effects that will go a long way to damage local Music, Comedy, Theatre and other Arts that make Chicago a wonderful and diverse place. SAY NO to this ordinance!
5014. Michael McAllister | May 13, 2008 at 11:51 am
Chicago may not have been built on art galleries and concerts, but now that is a major part of what makes Chicago the city that it is. To try and limit the freedoms of an individual by taking away something that makes Chicago what it is would just be cutting off your nose despite your face.
5015. Laura Doherty | May 13, 2008 at 11:51 am
Please save the indy arts in Chicago and do not pass this ordinance.
5016. Adam Gregory Pergament | May 13, 2008 at 11:51 am
Instead of figuring out ways to limit artists, a city interested in growth should strive to figure out ways to free artists to grow. Thumbs down on the ordinance from your brother in Madison, WI
5017. D.Taylor | May 13, 2008 at 11:51 am
Just plain “NO”
http://WWW.DTAYLOR1.COM
5018. Joe Mccarthy | May 13, 2008 at 11:51 am
Please stop all this non-sense.
5019. Allan Quiaoit | May 13, 2008 at 11:52 am
I am in full support of any ordinance that will prevent another E2 disaster, except when it comes to the full-out hindrance of thousands of small businesses. This ordinance is a joke and it does nothing to truly protect the patrons of events, who will go see a band, have a drink, or see a play, regardless of whether it’s been sanctioned by the city of Chicago. And let’s get this straight: if Chicago would have had the fingerprints and a thousand dollars from E2, 21 people wouldn’t have been stampeded to death? Give me a break.
5020. Jessica Ayoub | May 13, 2008 at 11:52 am
unbelieveable! why would anyone want to challenge something that is so essential? The arts in chicago have always been a huge part of what makes this city so amazing! Shame of those who support this.
5021. Heather Blaha | May 13, 2008 at 11:52 am
to reiterate in one word what the nearly 5000 people before me here said: NO!
5022. Jacque Lueken | May 13, 2008 at 11:52 am
I oppose this ordinance.
5023. Rajeev Kinra | May 13, 2008 at 11:53 am
Who came up with this silly, destructive idea? They should be fired or run out of office at the earliest opportunity. Any city official who votes for this proposal will lose my vote forever.
5024. Marq Withers | May 13, 2008 at 11:53 am
Is there no end to the limitations and obstacles put in front of the artists of this city? Our only mission here is to provide the culture, character, flavor, and flare that Chicago is so known for and that attracts people from all over the world. Why on earth would you put an end to that? Please do not allow this ordinance to pass!!
5025. Brad Trayser | May 13, 2008 at 11:53 am
I strongly oppose this ordinance.
Besides obvious cultural implications, there are smarter ways to increase revenue and improve liability.
Ridiculous.
5026. Jessamyn Smallenburg | May 13, 2008 at 11:53 am
This law is a terrible idea, because it would severely cripple the music and theater industry in Chicago.
5027. Sarah | May 13, 2008 at 11:53 am
I oppose this ordinance. This is unnecessary and will stand in the way of way too many cultural events/acts in Chicago.
5028. Callie Humphrey | May 13, 2008 at 11:53 am
This would be an absolute tragedy if this thing really went through. Chicago is such a cultural city, FILLED with great music and small venues that you can’t find in any other major city in the U.S.. As a performing arts management student at Columbia College, I (along with all of my fellow students) would be devastated if this ordinance passes.
What’s the point of ruining thousands of up-and-coming artists’ careers before they even really get started?
This would be a huge disappointment by this wonderful city that I now call “home”. . . Please don’t let this happen.
5029. D.Taylor | May 13, 2008 at 11:54 am
JUST PLAIN “NO”
http://WWW.DTAYLOR1.COM
5030. Jessamyn Smallenburg | May 13, 2008 at 11:54 am
This law is a terrible idea, because it would severely cripple the music and theater industries in Chicago.
5031. Christian Dawson | May 13, 2008 at 11:54 am
Signed.
This is obscene. Where’s the justification? Where’s the lost funds from bad promoters [that tallies to anything more than a blip on a state-level radar]?
Again, more old men trying to get more money. When will man realize that art is much more important??
5032. Nikki Patin | May 13, 2008 at 11:54 am
As a 10+ year member of Chicago’s performance community, I DO NOT support the promoters’ ordinance. I have worked with amazing organizations such as Young Chicago Authors, Rape Victim Advocates, Center on Halsted, the Chicago History Museum, Chicgao Magazine and on and on. I’ve produced and performed in events all over the city. I’ve witnessed poems save lives and songs galvanize activists. The small shows are what make Chicago the greatest poetry city on this planet and the hottest blues town around. This ordinance leaves no room for practical solutions, nor does it promote the dialogue necessary to create safe and enjoyable spaces for all. All it does is criminalize and stifle the qualities that reveal the heart of Chicago, which is the will to create and imagine matched with the hard work to bring it to life. I hope that all the bands, small promoters/producers, poets, DJs and all artists can come together on this and make our resistance HEARD.
5033. Anthony Decanini | May 13, 2008 at 11:54 am
This ordinance is bad for music and bad for Chicago.
5034. Daniel Apodaca | May 13, 2008 at 11:55 am
This law would do more harm than good. Instead of enforcing existing ordinances to crack down on the underground party scene here we have a sweeping initiative that will greatly discourage the majority of the players in the arts/entertainment scene, which aren’t technically amateur but certainly aren’t successful professionals.
Take for example, my band Seeking. Oftentimes the venue doesn’t use an outside promoter, instead asking the the headlining/anchor/first band on the books to fill the rest of the night. According to this legislation Seeking would be acting as the promoter for one of these events. However, Seeking gains so little actual profit from booking entertainment that we would not be able to afford to comply with this Ordinance. Most shows have so many contributors that after a proper payout we’re left with little to no profit. Any profit is turned around into producing more culture: more recordings, more music (paid in rent). We don’t even have enough to file taxes. We’re not alone. Many artists double up their roles so they can afford to produce.
Others have provided countless examples where legitimate and indeed very valuable culture would be greatly discouraged by this ordinance. Chicago depends on the vitality of its arts, yet is threatening the talented amateur or break-even base that produces most of this culture.
5035. Christine | May 13, 2008 at 11:55 am
I strongly oppose this ordinance.
5036. Mick Scott | May 13, 2008 at 11:55 am
The politicians in city of Chicago have always had a reputation of being underhanded,greedy,mean-spirited, and, among other things, shifty. This ordinance, if passed, would more than prove that premise.
This city has been home to many musical artists almost since its inception. This would not be so if such laws as the present one being comtemplated were put into law. The law would pollute this citiy’s creative atmospere,
5037. kj lucero | May 13, 2008 at 11:56 am
I vote no!
5038. Jim Plachy | May 13, 2008 at 11:56 am
n/t
5039. Kisha Hope | May 13, 2008 at 11:56 am
This all comes down to money. City officials have no clue how much revenue is brought to this city because of independent shows and events. “Regulating” them to this degree will only hurt, not help. This is quite possibly the dumbest, most ill informed ordinance I have ever witnessed. Taking away one of the things Chicago thrives and is notorious for? I mean, COME ON.
5040. Joel Mattern | May 13, 2008 at 11:56 am
Once again the crooks seek our freedoms. You don’t mess with our music.
5041. Chris " Hambone " Cameron | May 13, 2008 at 11:56 am
This ordinance is ill conceived and will have disastrous effects
on the local music community. Please vote no!
5042. Phil Kosch | May 13, 2008 at 11:57 am
As a performer and a promoter I only see this hurting the music community. The laws that are in place now are getting the job done properly. This is now unreasonable, and out right wrong.
5043. Todd Weiler | May 13, 2008 at 11:57 am
Perhaps the most breathtaking part of the city of Chicago, is its amazing fine arts community. Music, theater, dance and art are the soul of this city. Don’t stop the rock.
5044. joel masters | May 13, 2008 at 11:57 am
If this passes, which it wont, we will have to come together and rebel and make our voices heard.
5045. Adam C. Baker | May 13, 2008 at 11:57 am
At best, this ordinance will be largely ignored and unenforced. At worst, this will make the city a far less attractive place to live and visit. Please do not pass the “Event Promoters” ordinance.
Adam C. Baker
5046. Death of Self | May 13, 2008 at 11:57 am
This ordinance will kill everything that makes Chicago great.
5047. Jess Weida | May 13, 2008 at 11:57 am
This proposed legislation has the terrible potential to devastate The Arts in Chicago, effectively killing the “incubation” of artists groups, performers and musicians working in all sorts of disciplines. VOTE NO!!
5048. Kirk Markarian | May 13, 2008 at 11:58 am
The City of Chicago should not pass this ordinance, because most of us musicians perform FOR FREE!!! Not only that, but it stifles the gifts that we are giving the populace. Why in the world would you only want major acts or high-capacity acts to perform? Quite often, they are only perpetuating stale, bland and tasteless pop. Art is supposed to evolve.
Down with the Fascists.
5049. kenga rus | May 13, 2008 at 11:58 am
i am against this.
5050. jessica skolnik | May 13, 2008 at 11:58 am
This ordinance would destroy the vibrant culture of independent music in Chicago, no question. It would do immense harm to the community and help absolutely nothing. I’ve written my alderman, and I hope he opposes it as I do.
5051. Robert DeVore | May 13, 2008 at 11:58 am
The music scene in Chicago is quite a bit more than any of us imagine. At least it used to be. Now there’s an ordinance that will prevent people from playing music in Chicago. Goodbye Chicago music scene.
Not to worry. There will still be the symphony and whichever pop groups can fill the Allstate Arena and…well that’s about it.
Music is a cultural art. Chicago has just declared war on cultural art except for art created and marketed by people with enough money for the paying off of the city. It is legalized corruption that will affect everyone. Wednesday May 14, 2008 will go down in history as the day music died in Chicago.
I’ll begin a short list of the groups that will probably never perform in Chicago again:
Chicago Samba School
Chicago Didjeridu Chorus
Kaiju Daiko
Dahui Ensemble du Rhythm
SheBoom
Environmental Encroachment
Every local rock band
Every small chamber music ensemble
Every old-time and bluegrass band
Every local ethnic music ensemble
Every small dance troupe
Maybe Cleveland still likes music.
5052. Bill Pfeiffer | May 13, 2008 at 11:58 am
A vibrant, youthful creative music scene is a critical component of an international city. People buy property and travel to Chicago because there is a unique and econmiccally viable underground of artists and people of good medicine. Without the political infrastructure to support this diversity and to incubate smaller genres of musical and theatrical expression, the city would in essence destroy what has helped make it a city that draws people to its universities, restaurants, music venues and theatres. Overlegislation at the expense of artistic freedom is a BIG mistake. And in the end, the city won’t win….less people will be drawn to the city and that means a loss of revenues.
5053. Mick Scott | May 13, 2008 at 11:58 am
Passing this ordinance would be a bad idea.
5054. Mike Jones | May 13, 2008 at 11:58 am
Please do not pass this!!
5055. Doug Haight | May 13, 2008 at 11:58 am
this is outrageous and wrong. don’t ruin the most vibrant music scene in the country!
5056. Laura Swiatkowski | May 13, 2008 at 11:59 am
I am not the most informed person on the city’s politics, however I have been a participant/appreciator of the Chicago underground music scene since childhood. That being said, I have the right to be represented as a citizen of Chicago who requests an inviting environment for music as creative expression. Our zoo is free, our parks are free, our music should remain free too.
5057. Angela Kesting | May 13, 2008 at 11:59 am
This is an overreaction. This is not the solution to prevent things like the E3 disaster. It’s also a horrible example of creating huge barriers for people who do not have enough money to attend large venue stuff and/or to perform in large venues. How do we expect artists to develop? This limits diversity, it creates economic barriers.
5058. Richard Rose | May 13, 2008 at 11:59 am
Chicago has one of the most vibrant and productive music scenes in the country and this law would unfairly burden the very venues that contribute so much to our community. The law as written will do little to stop “underground” operators and I see no reason why the city counsil needs to rush this poorly written law through.
5059. Rob Ruccia | May 13, 2008 at 11:59 am
As an active member of the Chicago local music scene allowing such an ordinance would be not only ridiculous, but potentially ruin what has been an already declining scene. Just like the attempt at ridding us of the Double Door, This too can be overcome. I have contacted our alderman (woman) and wished that she see eye to eye on this. Uptown Recording has been working with local and national musicians for over 10 years and has been located in the heart of such clubs as Kinetic Playground, Rivera, Aragon and the Green MIll. These clubs already have insurance and licenses that have worked for decades. We cannot allow such a thing to pass…
5060. Dave Hutchinson | May 13, 2008 at 11:59 am
This city… (shakes head)
Politicians who pad their pockets with taxpayer dollars.
Public transit with service that is ‘fickle’ at best.
Increasingly violent crimes and increasingly lazy cops.
A water supply that has revealed a drug contamination level that is ‘just inside’ acceptable.
A mayor who would rather do whatever it takes to get the Olympics here than bother to deal with any of this.
It really warms the heart to know it’s perfectly OK to plant an ad for Grand Theft Auto IV on every street corner in the city, but music, art and theater are struggling to keep themselves available. Please keep something valuable and real alive in Chicago.
5061. Shawn Boyle | May 13, 2008 at 11:59 am
The music scene is about all Chicago has left these days, and about the ONLY thing that I have left to enjoy in this city, where it seems that lately, the fun comes to die. Please don’t take that away, or the city will lose a lot of great music and smaller venues that have been a part of the city and culture for decades!
5062. Dee | May 13, 2008 at 12:00 pm
This can’t happen! It’s horrible!
5063. Carla Alegre | May 13, 2008 at 12:00 pm
This is the most ridiculous thing I ever heard. I moved to Chicago only because of the arts and culture this city has. If they take it away the only thing left will be boring TALL Buildings, COLD weather and nothing to make a person happy. There is NO other city that has the a variety of artists like Chicago and WE ALL MUST SUPPORT IT!!!!!!!!
5064. christian villacres | May 13, 2008 at 12:00 pm
why would anyone consider passing this???
say no and save chicago!!!
PLEASE
5065. Mel Jones | May 13, 2008 at 12:00 pm
This will be very bad for Chicago’s culture and nightlife, as well as tourism.
I know many people who travel to Chicago to spend money based on smaller independent shows.
This will not make us any safer to an E2 Nightclub incident, which is a very poor excuse for this bill.
5066. Jacob Smith | May 13, 2008 at 12:00 pm
This is a foolish, reactionary move that will only serve to destroy the city’s culture rather than benefit it’s citizens. DO NOT PASS THIS ORDINANCE!
5067. Jermiah Howe | May 13, 2008 at 12:00 pm
this is asinine
5068. Alan Bailey | May 13, 2008 at 12:00 pm
No reason for this at all. It would be a shame if this goes forward.
5069. James DelFosse | May 13, 2008 at 12:00 pm
Another ridiculous money-grabbing scheme that could potentially erode the best music/arts scenes in the country. Another example of how out of touch the people trying to enact these laws are with the communities they represent.
5070. Jay Pandya | May 13, 2008 at 12:00 pm
I too oppose this ordinance.
5071. Janet Fox | May 13, 2008 at 12:01 pm
I live in Munich now and always boast about how cool a music scene my home town of Chicago has. This sounds like I’m going to have to stop boasting.
So I say, stop the ordinance before it’s too late!
Janet Fox
Chicago Ex-Pat.
5072. Phil Inzurriaga | May 13, 2008 at 12:01 pm
if chicago wants to stop being LA and NYs mistreated forgotten stepchild, then this ordinance cannot be passed. We never have our fashion week, independently owned book stores are few and far between and are being run out, independently owned clothing stores are limited to a few small boutiques, and record stores are almost a thing of the past. to combat the era of internet downloading the only way for bands to be heard and make money, is to let them play shows. and no one wants to see their new favorite band play in an arena where there is no intimacy, no personality, and no sense of camaraderie with the people you are there with.
let chicago keep its culture. please.
5073. Richard Posey | May 13, 2008 at 12:01 pm
I think this a another dumb ordinance. Find some other way to raise revenues
5074. Laura Torrespico-Hill | May 13, 2008 at 12:01 pm
This proposed ordinance is just vile and preposterous! Chicago has always been a city of culture. To strip it of its arts and entertainment will turn our city into a ghetto. The suburbs were constructed for people to play house and breed! This is just pain ridiculous.
5075. Bryan McGonigal | May 13, 2008 at 12:01 pm
As a long-time fan of Chicago’s music scene I am appalled to hear about this ridiculous ordinance. The tremendous damage this will do to the entertaimnet culture of our city is vastly greater than any of the issues it would supposedly resolve. I sincerely hope that the Chicago City Council comes to its senses, realizes that the negatives far outweigh the positives and does NOT let this pass.
5076. Brian Kedzorski | May 13, 2008 at 12:01 pm
I strongly oppose this ordinance.
5077. Peter Martin | May 13, 2008 at 12:02 pm
This ordinance is ridiculous. As a freelance musician who performs with a variety of small new music groups, I can’t imagine what life would be like if this goes through. The most exciting music being performed here in Chicago is by independent ensembles and soloists who already have to fight to just get a place to play. Pass this ordinance and these artists don’t stand a chance. Why would anyone want to tear the culture out of Chicago? Ridiculous.
5078. Mary ella | May 13, 2008 at 12:02 pm
This is another unfair attempt to pull in cash, only now it is directed at the struggling Chicago artists. So many talented people have come from chicago and this could only hinder that legacy. I hope it does not pass.
5079. Abbey | May 13, 2008 at 12:02 pm
Preventing improvisation? This will hurt the small venues undoubtedly. The stifling of creative freedom will stifle the evolution of Chicago’s reputation in the art world.
5080. Amy S | May 13, 2008 at 12:02 pm
NO!
5081. Alyssa S | May 13, 2008 at 12:02 pm
If this ordinance went through what would bring me to Chicago to spend all my money? Answer, nothing.
5082. Aaron Lafontaine | May 13, 2008 at 12:02 pm
No.
5083. Andy Dosmann | May 13, 2008 at 12:03 pm
I am against the ordinance. Surely there are other ways to deal with the issues that the ordinance addresses which are not so stifling to Chicago’s arts and culture scene.
5084. LiveFastDieSlow (Renato) | May 13, 2008 at 12:03 pm
Fuck The Man!
5085. Zak Christie | May 13, 2008 at 12:03 pm
This is a awful idea, this will take away from youth so much. Music is a positive outlet for expression, and chicago is full of talent and music culture. Why would you aid in terminating one of Chicago’s best qualities?
I DEFINITELY DISAPPROVE!!!!
5086. K.Lyn Sachen | May 13, 2008 at 12:03 pm
CHICAGO IS NOT A COOKIE CUTTER TOWN DO NOT ROB US OF OUR CREATIVE VOICES AND FREE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO ASSEMBLE.
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”
5087. Paul Foster | May 13, 2008 at 12:03 pm
Totally misguided legislation. Blunt and clumsy instrument. Please think again.
5088. Graeme Gibson | May 13, 2008 at 12:04 pm
small venues is what Chicago is known for in the music world; blues, house, post-rock, underground music in general. Forcing these places to close is only going to cause more problems. It’ll just go further underground.
5089. John Postlewait | May 13, 2008 at 12:04 pm
Anything that adds to the time & financial burden of legitimate small venues and artists, especially those that comply with existing codes and regulations, is self-defeating. Given the shrinking margins and lack of external funding that is the modern music “business”, especially at the level this is intended for, makes this just bureaucratic nonsense. Work more with the local music community, they have the same end goals.
5090. Lauren S. | May 13, 2008 at 12:05 pm
I would hate to see smaller venues being discouraged from providing such great entertainment for a crowd that clearly wants it. Are we not thinking about all the business and “economic stimulation” that comes with bringing a huge crowd into see all these performances as well?
Come on, seriously.
5091. J.T | May 13, 2008 at 12:05 pm
I oppose this and sent an email to my alderman. Here’s a template I adapted for all to use in their own emails:
Alderman [INSERT NAME],
As a citizen in Ward [INSERT #] and as an avid music fan who attends many concerts in Chicago, and many in our own Ward, I am writing to urge you to please vote against this ordinance in tomorrow’s vote. This ordinance would hurt our local, independent music and theater venues that work year-round to bring Chicago residents unique music and live theater. It would also be detrimental to the many local bands (and theater troupes) that work hard to book their own events in our city. This ordinance would, in effect, silence the stages of the great venues that make Chicago one of the finest cultural communities in America. Please oppose this ordinance and urge your fellow alderman and alderwomen to do the same.
5092. Keith Rowland | May 13, 2008 at 12:05 pm
City Politics…I don’t understand how the city expects the music community with these limitations..Not a smart business move at all.
5093. Scott Tooredman | May 13, 2008 at 12:06 pm
my band has a tough enough time just trying to find a decent, caring crowd in Chicago as it is. Now they won’t even give us a chance
5094. Daniella Echeverria | May 13, 2008 at 12:06 pm
I don’t live in Chicago. But the only times I go there is for the music venues. I drive three hours from Madison, Wisconsin to see small shows in small venues. Have you guys thought about what this is going to do for tourism to Chicago? I go to your bars. I drink your booze. I sleep in your hotels. I ride in your cabs. I imagine there are thousands and thousands of other people who spend money there when they are at a small venue. You’ll not only kill the culture, you’ll kill thousands of businesses.
5095. Michael Pichla | May 13, 2008 at 12:06 pm
While the intent of the ordinance is laudable, the proposed law in its current form punishes venue operators who are already in compliance with existing laws while doing nothing to prevent future disasters similar to the events at E2. Aldermen, vote no on this ordinance. It’s poor legislation that solves nothing and risks causing a host other unintended and unwanted consequences.
5096. Heather Fredericks | May 13, 2008 at 12:06 pm
My opposition to this ordinance is only rivaled by my love for the creative, and influential significance that music brings to the city of Chicago. This city and its inhabitants are made up of the sounds and the energy of its music… with that taken away, our streets will be monotoned… figuratively and literally. Who’s next? The saxaphone player outside of Union Station? STOP THIS. They can’t whisper lies if we scream the truth!
5097. Scott Westrick | May 13, 2008 at 12:07 pm
This is ridiculous and without warrant. No, thanks.
5098. Bonnie Richardson | May 13, 2008 at 12:08 pm
Part of the reason I moved to Chicago 4 years ago from southern IL is the fact that the music scene is so diverse. I can go see Neil Diamond at the United Center and then see a new indie band at the Hideout in the same week. More often than not, I see bands in bars and clubs because it is still affordable to do so.
Please do NOT pass this ordinance. The city’s music scene would be damaged beyond our wildest nightmares if the ordinance passes and becomes law.
Chicago is the greatest city in the world. Losing any of the many venues available for live performances would mar our worldwide reputation as a great city for the arts, and as a destination for those who appreciate great art in all its forms.
5099. Chris Thomopoulos | May 13, 2008 at 12:08 pm
I was disbelief from the moment I heard about this law. It is hard enough for up and coming artists and promoters to make a name for themselves in this city. With this law being passed it will almost be imposiible. I have stayed in Chicago for all my life (24+ years), but without the culture of independent artists, I would be forced to leave.
5100. David L. King | May 13, 2008 at 12:08 pm
I agree the public needs some form of protection from negligent and careless productions. This ordinance however, is poorly thought out obviously by people who have no idea of the workings music and performance arts in Chicago.
It appears that they will loose the baby with the bath-water should this become law.
Lets not become the laughing stock
5101. Nick Peraino | May 13, 2008 at 12:08 pm
This is just very wrong, I strongly disagree!!!
5102. Jason Delgatto | May 13, 2008 at 12:09 pm
If this ordinance passes it will be a sad day for the city of Chicago. It is the local arts scene that makes Chicago so unique, and to pass an ordinance against it just as Chicago is finally being recognized as world class artistic city is outrageous. I spent way too many nights growing up going to concerts at the Metro, and I plan to take my kids to their first show there some day as well.
5103. Jon Silver | May 13, 2008 at 12:09 pm
Don’t do it
5104. Nory B | May 13, 2008 at 12:09 pm
This is ridiculous and would certainly homogenenize the chicago art and music scene, having effects that would ripple into many different kinds of businesses. A city that doesn’t allow big box retail stores should recognize that this is categorically ruining small independent musicians and artists and allowing only for big box corporate promotion. The effects would be terrible.
5105. Jim Christopher | May 13, 2008 at 12:09 pm
This ordinance is another oppressive disaster from an increasingly authoritarian city government. Iif passed in its present form, it will eviscerate local entertainment
5106. mark musial | May 13, 2008 at 12:09 pm
I vote no…going to see live music is what I spend most of my weekends doing!!!
5107. Karen Wortmann-Cary | May 13, 2008 at 12:10 pm
This ordinance is ridiculous. A Chicago without local music is not a Chicago worth living in.
5108. Britt Curcio | May 13, 2008 at 12:10 pm
If this plan is designed to drive people out of Chicago and prevent people from visiting this beautful, culturally advanced city, then I think it will work perfectly. How sad, gluttonous, and completely disappointing.
5109. Dr Fretgood | May 13, 2008 at 12:10 pm
I can’t believe this is even been considered!! Let’s make our voice be heard.
5110. Matthew Simcoe | May 13, 2008 at 12:10 pm
What would we gain by this? Our city has one of the most vital music scenes in the world! There is far too much to lose.
5111. Hillary Johnson | May 13, 2008 at 12:10 pm
If the city council wants to destroy part of what makes Chicago a vital and interesting place to live then by all means vote for this. But if sanity is going to prevail, cooler heads will realize that this ordinance will place unreasonable obstacles in the way of not only good, varied, rich entertainment but will be stepping on the toes of free speech as well. What a disaster. The council must realize that this ordinance would be a total disservice for Chicago and I strongly urge everyone to vote a loud and clear NO against it.
5112. Elizabeth | May 13, 2008 at 12:11 pm
The term “starving artist” is there for a reason. Why make it harder for artists around the city to commit to what they love? My career goals are outside of the arts, but I have taken a few improvisation classes and have performed with a small band around the city. There is nothing like it, the feeling is thrilling. Why make performing arts harder for people to join, especially people who are trying to earn an income from it?
And why make it harder for lower-income folk to enjoy the same richness and diversity in the arts as anyone else? Please rethink the ordinance by considering the great negative impact it would have on the city’s unique spirit and vibrancy.
5113. e carbone | May 13, 2008 at 12:11 pm
Greedy bastards need to find their money elsewhere. It’s hard enough for creative people to find an outlet… no more restrictions!
5114. David N. | May 13, 2008 at 12:12 pm
HERES A KICKER…
one of the alderman supporting this is Gene Schulter 47th ward.
47th ward is the home to the Old Town School of Folk Music, a nationally respected establishment for 50 years
Many of the local resturants and taverns located around the school allow students to play in their place of business in order to help them develop their skills. without the School many of these business would go under being that patrons are mostly students, teachers,performers,and event attendees connected to the school.
Talk about a politician stabbing their own people in the back….
This ordinance needs to be stopped!!!!!!!! and Schulter and Daley voted from office.
5115. Dave Miller | May 13, 2008 at 12:12 pm
This ordinance is quite obviously ridiculous and anyone who is reading this blog probably knows that. However, the result of passing this legislation will be the act of pushing the music/art further “underground” and could potentially create even more problems!
5116. Chris Buehrle | May 13, 2008 at 12:12 pm
Chicago is up and coming still in the performing arts scene in this country, in my opinion. People (artists) don’t necessarily come here to “make it.” They come because it’s so welcomed and it’s available and there is an opportunity to meagerly live off of your passion. It’d be ashame if the Chicago scene got a bad name for itself among the people that add a lot to its culture and economy. How is Wicker Park doing now, to start with? This should be a no-brainer…
5117. Christine Krumsee | May 13, 2008 at 12:12 pm
I strongly oppose this ordinance.
5118. Raymond Bailey | May 13, 2008 at 12:12 pm
This ordinance will make it very difficult, if not impossible, for the smaller theaters in Chicago. In the Rogers Park neighborhood, the Lifeline Theater and BoHo Theather add so much to our community.
It would be a crime if they could no longer afford to stay open because of this ordinance. Small, off-Broadway theaters are what add life to Chicago. Rogers Park, and Chicago as a whole, would loose an irreplaceable and vital part of our great city.
The City of Chicago should be passing ordinances encouraging the fine arts, not the other way around.
5119. RobRoy Campbell | May 13, 2008 at 12:13 pm
Absurd. What’s the real motive?
5120. Mike Golen | May 13, 2008 at 12:13 pm
This absurd proposal serves to cripple Chicago’s independent music scene. It will put a stranglehold on local bands trying to form a fan base. Here in this city, we’ve always had the freedom to organize and promote a show ourselves. The city heads want to take this away. Why? Money. Pure and simple. Chicago has the highest sales tax in the country. Now, they want thousands of dollars if someone wants to put on a local show. What other excuses can they find to squeeze money out of Chicagoans?
I oppose this ordinance. This will castrate Chicago’s culture if passed.
Its not too late to e-mail your aldermen and tell them you oppose.
Give them a link to this page as well.
5121. Laura Zhang | May 13, 2008 at 12:14 pm
THIS HAS TO BE STOPPED.
5122. Paul Koob | May 13, 2008 at 12:14 pm
The ordinance is bad for us.
5123. Tshurhad Chivas | May 13, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Please consider this posting as my official opposition to the Promoters Ordinance Law.
5124. Sharon Morella | May 13, 2008 at 12:14 pm
PLEASE DO NOT PASS THIS – it is absolutely disgusting and insulting to Chicago – why is it that things like this get passed without any public voting?? it is so obvious how criminal it would be to pass such a law that would wipe out the small independent musicians that someone MUST be getting their hand greased REAL GOOD – should we call REZKO?????
5125. Daniel Starr | May 13, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Ridiculous. This in absolutely no way protects the public and will seriously degrade the quality and diversity of music in Chicago. Time to move to Milwaukee yet?
5126. Lauren Hamilton | May 13, 2008 at 12:14 pm
This is completely insane. Doing this would rob all that makes Chicago the greatest city in America. Damn the man.
5127. Pedro G. Moreno | May 13, 2008 at 12:15 pm
I live in Austin Texas and over the years I have visited Chicago expressly to go to independently produced jazz shows in your great city. I have had the pleasure of witnessing some of the finest modern jazz in the world at venues such as the Velvet Lounge, The Hothouse, Empty Bottle, the now defunct 3030 and other grass roots venues. Chicago has an international reputation for having the finest local and touring scene for this kind of music. I fear that this misguided ordinance will stiffle this vital and vibrant community and have a ripple effect that will be felt in the rest of the country. Please rethink this terrible policy. I look forward to my next visit to Chicago to soak in all of the great culture…
Sincerely,
Pedro Moreno
Austin, Texas
5128. Siri | May 13, 2008 at 12:15 pm
I am opposed to this ordinance. The city will only be hurting smaller venues and promoters and homogenizing even further our city. Interesting small music and theater venues and events are part of what make our city special and interesting. None of these laws are going to make anyplace “safer” anyway.
5129. Laura McGlone | May 13, 2008 at 12:15 pm
As a photographer, teacher, and live-music-lover, I think that this ban will keep me from doing art openings, hearing great indie-rock artists, and conducting fundraisers for my school and other non-profit causes. Please reconsider this ban, as it will affect not only the livelihoods of artists, but it will change the availability of true and independent art and music in the diversly artistic city of Chicago.
5130. elizabeth z | May 13, 2008 at 12:15 pm
vote no!!!
5131. Un-patriotic Patriot | May 13, 2008 at 12:15 pm
We will take up arms and start the the revolution. Stopping this is worth my life.
5132. Robert Brenner | May 13, 2008 at 12:15 pm
This ordinance serves to do nothing but stifle artists who make any great city what it is. Keep Chicago great by opposing it.
5133. PatienceLucas | May 13, 2008 at 12:15 pm
I am against this ordinance. I pray that it fails. It would put many people’s way of living at odds. I know many legitimate promoters who have licensed businesses and pay their taxes. It doesn’t make sense to change something that is so advantageous to the city.
5134. Jennifer Kincaid | May 13, 2008 at 12:16 pm
…and just when Chicago is finally hitting the map as the best place in the U.S. to see new plays, new music and new film. Boo hiss! Protect our small producers!
5135. Jennifer Shanley | May 13, 2008 at 12:16 pm
Is this nazi Germany? I am thoroughly opposed to this! This is the ultimate suppression! Is Chicago to become the next stepford community? This city has so much to offer with all of the expression of creativity and to quell that is completely wrong. I never thought I would hear of this becoming a possibility. This saddens me immensely.
5136. Gabrielle | May 13, 2008 at 12:16 pm
Chicago is known for its venues. You take that away what will you have. My family and I enjoy our family time when we go to see the different venues around town. People have a right to be free and express their talents.
5137. Kyle | May 13, 2008 at 12:16 pm
While this is a bad law.. the author of this blog is wrong to post that somehow nonprofit theatres like the Bailiwick and Athenaeum are going to be affected by this law.
It DOES NOT APPLY TO NONPROFITS..
I still say fight this law– just don’t do so with the wrong facts…
5138. Lisa White | May 13, 2008 at 12:16 pm
I am totally against this ordinance, and called and told my Alderman so.
As a recent Columbia College grad in music business, I can’t believe an amazing live music city such as Chicago would even consider this inane bill. My small company is based around working with these amazing venues and local acts, and it would be completely horrible if something stupid as this law hindered the creative outpour in our artistic community. It would hurt everyone (myself and company included) so much, that severe damage would incur, such as artist and venues and promoters moving away from Chicago to do their business elsewhere to get away from a stifling ordinance such as this.
5139. Josh Orr | May 13, 2008 at 12:16 pm
I moved to Chicago specifically for its strong history of independent performance arts, and in moving here I have become a proud and active citizen.
This proposed ordinance would tarnish Chicago’s historical arts tradition, particularly one of independent and local artists, which in turn diminishes Chicago’s legendary appeal to newcomers, tourists, and international arts/culture organizations.
The longterm benefits of supporting local independent arts should not be underestimated. Consider how blues clubs and independent comedy shows have contributed to Chicago’s rich history, and its notoriety among foreigners.
Arts movements and industries start with local arts communities, and this proposed ordinance would strangle one of Chicago’s most vibrant communities.
Please do not endorse this proposed ordinance.
Thanks for your time.
Sincerely,
Josh Orr
Logan Square
5140. mike g. | May 13, 2008 at 12:16 pm
not only will this legislature have a negative effect locally on it’s own artistic community, but national artist also depend on chicago as major stop thru on the national touring circuit.
5141. Mike Doyle | May 13, 2008 at 12:17 pm
where do i sign?
5142. Manny Z | May 13, 2008 at 12:17 pm
This just should not happen. It will destroy the local music scene.
5143. Tabatha S. Conrad | May 13, 2008 at 12:17 pm
I’ve seen more small shows in Chicago than any other city in the world. Schuba’s is one of the BEST venues I’ve ever been in. Please stop this ordinance. You will ruin your city.
5144. Ashley Black | May 13, 2008 at 12:17 pm
I don’t see how anyone could support this. The amount of damage this will do to the Chicago music scene will greatly outweigh the amount of good it might do by forcing small performers and companies as well as nonprofit organizations out of the music scene altogether.
5145. Joe Boland | May 13, 2008 at 12:17 pm
This will destroy our cities underground music scenes, thereby hurting thousands of people in and around the city.
5146. Daniel Wagner | May 13, 2008 at 12:17 pm
The reason we moved to Chicago some six years ago was because the massive breadth of culture in this wonderful city. Chicago has always been an outlet for creativity and art and I would hate to see anything prohibit the growth I’ve even seen in the time I’ve been here. Please vote no!
5147. Emily Youssef | May 13, 2008 at 12:18 pm
Ludicrous. This is thoughtless business sense and will hurt Chicago’s economy on top of crippling its crucial independent music scene. I live in New York City now and one of the only reasons I come back is to attend shows. Not the kind with major financial backing and 500+ permanent seats. I can find that in New York. I come back because the small venues this ordinance will hurt are the very reason I decided to move to Chicago in the first place.
If this ordinance is passed as law, the city of Chicago will lose my business. My wallet votes no.
5148. Dan Arndt | May 13, 2008 at 12:18 pm
It’s sickening how sterile the music scene is today. Chicago’s local music community offers a fresh breath to many fans of real music. Please, don’t pass the Promoters Ordinance, it will cause smaller venues to stop booking local acts in favor of bigger ones to cover the cost of the Promoters Ordinance. Does everything have to be a profit for Chicago?
5149. B. Roach | May 13, 2008 at 12:18 pm
This is insane! The Chicago music scene is what keeps me, my family and friends living in the city. Stop this madness!!!!!
5150. Chuck Pinney | May 13, 2008 at 12:18 pm
It seems that this city has a personal grudge against its’ own local musicians. For years, it harassed players at the street level and succeeded in forcing people with little assets to pay a fee just to play on the street for change. Now it’s going after us in the little bars we try to gig in. We get very little in the way of guarantees at these venues. Club owners are usually ambivalent (cheap, I should say) about promoting their own business, and will even charge us to play at their venue. Now you want to charge me 2 grand for a license and carry insurance just to stick a few 8×11 flyers up on toilet doors? This is ridiculous. Not only does this hurt musicians, it hurts small clubs that are already losing business due to the new smoking bans.
5151. Peter R. | May 13, 2008 at 12:18 pm
PLEASE VOTE NO!!
5152. Alance Ward | May 13, 2008 at 12:19 pm
I’ll be moving out of this city in a hurry if this ordinance becomes a reality. I’ll move to another large city and pump my millions into their economy.
5153. Austin | May 13, 2008 at 12:19 pm
Chicago’s scene is far to rich to have it all limited to the suburbs. Chicago without landmark venues like the Metro and Double Door for local and national touring indie bands isn’t really chicago. Chicago is indie
5154. Chris Triebes | May 13, 2008 at 12:19 pm
I am an independent promoter in Chicagoland, and this ordinance would force me to 100% stop throwing shows in Chicago. It would not be financially realistic for me to do so. I know I speak for many people when I say this.
Depriving Chicago of so much culture is ridiculous. It is denying us the ability to see the many concerts, performances and other events because they are not held in a room with 500 or more permanent seats. I personally prefer smaller events and this would essentially get rid of any event in Chicago that I would be interested in attending. I feel like the city of Chicago is not only taking away something that I love, but infringing upon my right as a citizen of this country to enjoy the culture that I always have.
5155. Eric Quinlan (THE ITS!, Penthouse Sweets & Tiny Speakers) Owner of PWMD Records (Chicago) | May 13, 2008 at 12:19 pm
This is completely out of hand. It is hard enough as it is trying to get even an all ages show in town anymore with clubs shutting down or turning into sports bars. To us musicians, this is our LIVELY-HOOD in most scenarios and regardless, our passions. Chicago always has this thing about proclaiming out “THRIVING” our artistic community is. Way to stomp out the already fragile growing sprout that it is.
It is so easy for someone who has never even picked up an instrument, tried to book/promote a show, spend hours outside in freezing rain passing out burned cds/ photocopied handbills that typically are thrown to waste, posting flyers and posters that get torn down an hour after they are posted, plan to have a release show in a venue that people are willing to commute to and support music/art they love, to just say, “HERE IS OUR SOLUTION THAT WILL “BETTER” YOUR SITUATIONS”….complete rubbish.
Eo we need to actually stand infront of the tank and start stuffing our stratocasters into the barrel??
Most of us barely get by living the way we do to provide this “THRIVING ARTISTIC CITY” with that very backbone…moving to a city that will allow us to do so…is almost out of the question but may become a reality.
SADLY disappointed, all arms bearing,
Eric Quinlan
member of: The Its!, Penthouse Sweets & Tiny Speakers
owner of: PWMD Records (Chicago)
5156. Emily Boyd | May 13, 2008 at 12:19 pm
Malarkey! Vote no!
5157. chadwick smith | May 13, 2008 at 12:19 pm
this is ridiculous. the live music scene is a big part of what makes chicago such a great city. please don’t let this ordinance pass.
chadwick h. smith
5158. Eric Hazen | May 13, 2008 at 12:19 pm
My girlfriend and I live in Longview Washington, but we’ve traveled to Chicago in the past to specifically see a show. In fact, we’re going to Chicago again in a few weeks to see the Ben Weasel show. Please vote “NO” on this ridiculous ordinance. We want to be able to continue to visit and see great music.
5159. Saul Holmes | May 13, 2008 at 12:19 pm
Alderman F. Lyles (6th Ward)
As a citizen in Ward [INSERT #] and as an avid music fan who attends many concerts in Chicago, and many in our own Ward, I am writing to urge you to please vote against this ordinance in tomorrow’s vote. This ordinance would hurt our local, independent music and theater venues that work year-round to bring Chicago residents unique music and live theater. It would also be detrimental to the many local bands (and theater troupes) that work hard to book their own events in our city. This ordinance would, in effect, silence the stages of the great venues that make Chicago one of the finest cultural communities in America. Please oppose this ordinance and urge your fellow alderman and alderwomen to do the same.
5160. sarah kogut | May 13, 2008 at 12:19 pm
i oppose this ordinance, it will only deprive chicago and in no way benefit.
5161. Mike Broers | May 13, 2008 at 12:20 pm
Put the nayno on this my brothers. STOP THIS.
5162. Jennifer Petersen | May 13, 2008 at 12:20 pm
The music scene of Chicago is one of the things that define this city and make it an attractive option of city living.
I strongly oppose this ordinance.
5163. Chris | May 13, 2008 at 12:20 pm
You’ve got to be kidding me. Bold move, Chicago. I guess you’re not content with being recognized as one of the top 5 cities for music in the country. I’m so against this and I’ve already put a post up on my blog to help support you guys. Thanks for taking up the cause!
Chris Hassen
http://blogs.the217.com/pricelesscoverage
5164. matt o'hara | May 13, 2008 at 12:20 pm
so they took away the right to smoke now r music come on
5165. Annette R. | May 13, 2008 at 12:20 pm
Don’t do it. Don’t do it. Don’t do it. Don’t do it. Don’t do it.
I am a true lover of the live arts and music venue. There are so
many struggling artists that simply can’t afford this ridiculous
proposal.
In addition , i am a volunteer choir member for a local production
that is going into its 4th production in December.
5166. Kevin Baumgart | May 13, 2008 at 12:20 pm
Please don’t destroy one of the best things about living in this great city.
5167. Sean Talbot | May 13, 2008 at 12:20 pm
We DO NOT need more restrictive legislation or increased licensure in this city. Nor do we need the city’s hands in even more pockets. It’s not surprising that Mr. Eminent Domain, Gene Schulter, Alderman of the 47th ward, is the chairman of the licensing committee since he (and others like him) seems to think the elected officials are the legitimate owners of this city and that we, the citizens, are merely their serfs.
VOTE NO TO THIS ORDINANCE
5168. Ted Wulfers | May 13, 2008 at 12:20 pm
Please vote against this. If it were to pass, you will see many musicians and music fans move in droves from Chicago to other cities that support their thriving local music scenes. This will mean MUCH less revenue for the city of Chicago and will be a huge artistic black eye on a beautiful city with an amazing musical history and community. Please vote AGAINST!!!!
5169. Dan Tartol | May 13, 2008 at 12:20 pm
This is unbelievable that Chicago could even think about doing this. NO small band or starting up DJ could ever afford to do this every time they want to perform. Whats next, charging street musicians rent on the sidewalk????
STOP THIS NOW!!!
5170. Sarah Hwang | May 13, 2008 at 12:21 pm
This ordinance is a direct threat to the heart of our city. Chicago thrives off the cultural creativity that distinctly separates us from everyone else. Please don’t strip us of our character, our passion, our essence.
5171. David N. | May 13, 2008 at 12:21 pm
HERES A KICKER…
one of the alderman supporting this is Gene Schulter 47th ward.
47th ward is the home to the Old Town School of Folk Music, a nationally respected establishment for 50 years
Many of the local resturants and taverns located around the school allow students to play in their place of business in order to help them develop their skills. without the School many of these business would go under being that patrons are mostly students, teachers,performers,and event attendees connected to the school.
Talk about a politician stabbing their own people in the back….
This ordinance needs to be stopped!!!!!!!! and Schulter and Daley voted from office.
5172. Micah Greenlay | May 13, 2008 at 12:21 pm
signed.
5173. Kerry Hughes | May 13, 2008 at 12:21 pm
As a musician myself, I feel that this ordinance will do far moew harm than good. The costs that this ordinance would place on small venues and up and coming artists will not protect them but drive them away from attempting to host or perform shows as they would be unable to afford it.
This ordinance would destroy the rich musical culture that Chicago is known for. No more great and talented musicians would be able to actively attempt to launch a career in Chicago and some of the great venues available for these artists would shut down.
The idea that the City Council would even consider passing this ordinance is appalling and by their choice to propose this shows that they have little to no experience or respect for the musical community.
I oppose this ordinance completely.
5174. Martha Williams | May 13, 2008 at 12:22 pm
Please vote NO to this ordinance. As a registered voter, I am opposed to this ordinance because it would hurt smaller venues where creative endeavors, that affect and influence the larger culture, are formed and nurtured.
5175. Kris Withem | May 13, 2008 at 12:23 pm
This is outrageous. For someone like me who helps promote in my free time and typically for free just to hear good music, there is no way I could still do this and pay those stupid fines and applications fees! Just knock out that little part of the constitution that says “the right to assemble”, lets just ignore that so we can make a profit off it. Communists!
5176. D Chavez | May 13, 2008 at 12:23 pm
Preposterous proposal.
I say nay.
5177. David Standish | May 13, 2008 at 12:23 pm
This is proposed ordinance is a VERY bad idea.
5178. Marie Antoinette Flores | May 13, 2008 at 12:23 pm
ATTENTION: VOTE NO, NO, NO!!! THIS ORDINANCE, IF PASSED WILL UNDOUBTEDLY AFFECT PERFORMANCE ARTISTS OF EVERY GENRE AROUND THE CITY! ONE OF THE WONDERFUL, UNIQUE QUALITIES ABOUT CHICAGO IS OUR CULTURALLY DIVERSE AND AMAZING ART SCENE! PLEASE VOTE NO, NO, NO!!!
5179. Kim Alpert | May 13, 2008 at 12:23 pm
After years working as a curator for Around the Coyote festival and helping with a variety of other art shows around the city, the most recent being Looptopia which the city is using as a major tourism draw, I am shocked that this ordinance is so vague regarding the types of events and promoters they are targeting. Especially after such an incredible amount of testimonies a year ago.
I completely sympathize and understand the need for tighter regulations on ILLEGAL VENUES and UNSAFE PRACTICES which are the true causes of the E2 tragedy, but to put that burden on people looking to promote events is a very short sighted solution to a very real and long overdue issue in the event community. However, it is not promoters’ responsibilities to ensure a venue is up to code or that the fire codes are being enforced.
As I stated when I testified a year ago at city hall:
When we create blanket laws that we then pick and choose who to target and go after, we create an air of fear and a greater divide between the public and the government.
Though the sentiment and ambitions of this ordinance come from a place of saftey and sympathy, it does not take into account the thousands of other promoters and independent artists/groups working to keep Chicago as a cultural destination internationally… and have been doing so safely and responsibly.
5180. Eric | May 13, 2008 at 12:23 pm
This is a ridiculous proposition. This ordinance stifles one of the most unique and culturally important aspects to Chicago- the output of amazing live entertainment by individuals with great ideas and not just large sums of money. An ordinance of this nature places emphasis on income rather than inovation.
5181. jen. | May 13, 2008 at 12:24 pm
just more hoops, red tape, and bureaucracy….
passing this ordinance will cripple the independent spirit and livelihood of the small artists of chicago.
please vote NO!
5182. Marta Q | May 13, 2008 at 12:24 pm
Less independent art will mean even more violence in our schools. The city council must reject this absurd ordinance and deal with the real issues.
5183. Mary | May 13, 2008 at 12:24 pm
BAD move.
5184. Juli Sherry | May 13, 2008 at 12:25 pm
Please stop this ordinance! Local shows are worth saving.
5185. Ed Tinley | May 13, 2008 at 12:25 pm
Please vote ‘NO’ to this ridiculous ordinance. Chicago is a world class music city and this law only hinders and hurts this city’s vital music scene.
5186. Austin | May 13, 2008 at 12:25 pm
This would be a HUGE mistake. Wow, they better not do this.
5187. Nick | May 13, 2008 at 12:25 pm
no way
5188. BC | May 13, 2008 at 12:26 pm
What’s next? Charging ridiculous fees for casting shadow puppets on alley walls?
The fat cats need to find another way to bilk people out of money. Otherwise, Chicago will be as exciting to live in/travel to as Mokena.
5189. n. lanthrum | May 13, 2008 at 12:26 pm
as a musician who has taken part in countless chicago shows over the past 8 years, i find it disheartening to hear that the city does not embrace and care for it’s musicians and their potential in the slightest bit. This ordinance will all but eliminate venues for not only established bands to play, but also for up and coming bands to cut their teeth. Venues like the Metro, Double Door, and Schubas, who definitley operated at a loss when giving bands like mine a chance to grow will now be forced to close it’s doors to all but pure profit shows. the music scene will die, culturally blind politics will be to blame. C’mon Chicago, you’re better than this.
5190. Sarah | May 13, 2008 at 12:26 pm
Frequent trips from Milwaukee to Chicago to hear great music has been a part of my life for 10 years now. The music scene there is amazing- vibrant, pulsing and alive. It’s like nothing else.
This ordinance, if passed, would be the death of the small bands.
Without the word of mouth, passing out flyers at shows, and self- promotion, bands like Fall Out Boy, and rappers like Common and Kanye West would not be where they are today.
We cannot let the next big thing in music to be thrown under the wheels of local government.
5191. Nicholas | May 13, 2008 at 12:26 pm
Don’t discourage small business. Don’t discourage the arts.
5192. scott troogstad | May 13, 2008 at 12:26 pm
Yeah, great idea. Kids are alreay shooting up the streets, might as well take more activities away from them. I used to be proud of my city, it is rapidly becoming a fuckin joke.
THIS IS AN ASS-ININE PROPOSAL, YOU SHOULD ALL BE REMOVED FROM YOUR SEATS & PUT IN THE STREET!!!!
I’D GLADLY VOTE ON THAT!
5193. Alex Jados | May 13, 2008 at 12:26 pm
Chicago’s music scene is the reason that keeps me coming back to the city. I live in the suburbs and visit Chicago for the street festivals and concerts at different venues. Nothing good will come out of this ordinance.
5194. Keith Marek | May 13, 2008 at 12:27 pm
As a musician and a concerned patron of the arts I believe the effect of the Promoter’s Ordinance will be devastating. Chicago has worked hard to create a thriving art and music scene. Discouraging such a scene by creating these unnecessary regulations would be a huge mistake. Cutting off the smaller clubs and venues will lead to the eventual shutting down of the larger venues and clubs. This city has always been a center of live music and it would be horrible for this reputation to end due to this unnecessary ordinance.
5195. jessica silas | May 13, 2008 at 12:27 pm
Ever since I was a small girl, my dream has been to move to Chicago, not for the big buildings and the tourist attractions, but for the culture. As a I grew older, I got into the incredible music scene that Chicago has and it increased my desire even more. Now that I’m finally of moving age, 20, you are trying to take away my reason for moving there. If you pass this ordinance, you will lose alot of intrest in your city. I know this for a fact.
5196. Nan Warshaw, Bloodshot Records | May 13, 2008 at 12:28 pm
The proposed Promoter’s Ordinance will harm Chicago’s artisticlly and economiclly vibrant music and theater community without improving safety at venues. Please reject this detrimental Ordinance!
Sincerely, Nan Warshaw
Co-Owner, Bloodshot Records
5197. Anna Vogelzang | May 13, 2008 at 12:28 pm
As a performer there is no way for me to sustain the career that I’m passionate about if this ordinance passes. Chicago has been an amazing city to contribute to artistically, and is filled with amazing shows — taking that away from the people who make the effort to perform, book, promote, and provide entertainment every night of the week will kill the Chicago cultural scene as we know it. I strongly oppose this ordinance.
5198. Joel Handley | May 13, 2008 at 12:28 pm
Absurdity. Add my name to the petition please.
5199. Ian Bratschie | May 13, 2008 at 12:28 pm
I am a student here in the city attending Columbia College. I am attending the school for many reasons, but the greatest being the fact that it is located in the wonderful city of Chicago and the amazing oppurtunities an artist has to perform all through out the city. This ordinance would absolutely shatter an entire artistic student community that is now booming in this city. Taking away venues would make the already difficult path of becoming a self supporting artist nearly impossible.
5200. Amanda Olson | May 13, 2008 at 12:28 pm
Come on people!!!! What is up with this? This is insane. I want to be able to sing where ever I can!!! Might as well make us have to pay to breathe!!!
5201. Monica | May 13, 2008 at 12:29 pm
this is not a good idea!
5202. John Daniel | May 13, 2008 at 12:29 pm
If Chicago wants all of the shows to be in the suburbs, this is the right step. Rather short-sighted, I think.
5203. Heather Mulry | May 13, 2008 at 12:29 pm
Chicago is known for so much: our architecture, museums, and our vibrant music scene. Don’t take our city’s character away, stop this ordinance.
5204. Kelly | May 13, 2008 at 12:29 pm
Has corporate America left nothing untainted in this world? These venues who book these small shows are one of the few joys left for the live-music-loving-chicago crowd that doesn’t have a fortune to spend on tickets every time they want to see a show. This is all for money – the corrupt Chicago politicians just can’t keep their greedy hands off of the small live show scene – they have taken control over and ruined everything else we have – its no surprise that they would do this – but it is dispiscable and more over unnecessary. Don’t you guys have anything else better to do than to ruin live music for us? Dont you have anything better to do than sell the Metro and re-name it Chase Bank Theater!?!?! You’re already taking over Wrigley Field!! Lay off our venues dammit!!!
5205. Don Semple | May 13, 2008 at 12:30 pm
I oppose the promoters ordinance. No one who has any concern for arts or creativity in the city of Chicago could support this.
5206. Jay | May 13, 2008 at 12:30 pm
Leave it to Chicago to possess some of the best local music in the country and no means to expose it. Cryin’ shame!
5207. Aaron Ackerson | May 13, 2008 at 12:30 pm
I oppose the ordinance.
5208. Jonathan Ryskamp | May 13, 2008 at 12:30 pm
I will be calling my Alderman to let him know how much I oppose this ordinance.
5209. Jennifer Stander | May 13, 2008 at 12:30 pm
The music scene, especially the small venues, is the reason I live in Chicago. Before living here, I frequently drove 3 hours to see shows here, again almost always at small venues. The music scene defines Chicago a lot of people and benefits tourism. It’s ridiculous that this ordinance is being considered. Please vote no.
5210. Jonathan Douglas | May 13, 2008 at 12:31 pm
It seems like the city would have to be equipped with ideas that could be better methods to generate revenue than this. This will deplete the rich culuture of the city of chicago and alienate independent thinkers and independent artists and musicians. It will also put a big dent in the city of Chicago and lead us down a dark path. Do you want to be a ghost town like Detroit? This is a sure fire way to start going there.
City of Chicago, you are underestimating the intelligence of your citizens and how much this will affect them, and in effect, you. Your lack of artistic integrity does not resonate throughout the community. Not everyone can look in the mirror with pride after a day of doing nothing but finding ways to line their own pockets. Your lack of spine is the exception, not the rule. Smarten up.
5211. laurie freivogel | May 13, 2008 at 12:31 pm
what chicago needs is not more big business, yet this will result in only big business music in chicago since smaller venues will not be able to afford it. enough, already.
5212. David Barnett | May 13, 2008 at 12:31 pm
One of the best aspects of Chicago is its thriving music scene. This ordinance will greatly diminish opportunities for artists and could lead to small venues closing their doors. It is ill-considered and should be rejected in its current form.
5213. Adam Boukram | May 13, 2008 at 12:32 pm
I can say something smart and lawly: I just ask who are the crooks at the Helms of this money wagon.
Tax city is out of control and it will not end here.
whats next : I have to buy a permit to carry my guitar in the streets???
5214. Elizabeth | May 13, 2008 at 12:32 pm
Save the Music. Vote NO!
5215. Steve Pardo | May 13, 2008 at 12:32 pm
absolutely insane. makes zero sense. unbelievable.
5216. Jarritt Sheel | May 13, 2008 at 12:32 pm
I think that this is pretty specific and really will do no good for the creative scene. It will actually stifle it and help kill the already dying music scene here. I should actually put more responsibility in the hands of the owners than the promoters.
5217. dante da silva | May 13, 2008 at 12:32 pm
Definitely against this ordinance… the fact that this issue was not brought to the public media [since it pertains by a large part to such] should be reason enough to throw it out. I cannot imagine how many people who are represented by the city council members have agreed to this blatant public embezzlement; they must think very little of the Chicago creative community that they would hijack the music & cultural activities especially now during the summer. This is another quick money making scheme by the city government imposed on a specific demographic group that’s meant to stifle creative gathering, while boosting the pockets of the city coffers. There is no advantage presented by this ordinance besides shifting to large corporate promoters what should be in the hands of the local Chicago artist communities. Once this worthless law is approved, what is stopping the council from including artist open houses along the Chicago Arts District on Halsted & Fulton Market? This is a slippery slope situation, & considering the amount of graft & corruption [ie, Rezko.. enough said] that the city likes to conduct, there is no limit as to what else they can do to increase the potency of this Pirate Law once it is in effect… & all behind our backs, which is business as usual for these yokels.
5218. Gregory Smith | May 13, 2008 at 12:32 pm
I oppose this absolutely ridiculous ordinance!
5219. Peggy Neuzil | May 13, 2008 at 12:32 pm
As a Chicago resident and someone who loves Chicago’s vibrant music scene, I oppose this proposed ordinance. This would be detrimental not only to independent artists, but also to Chicago’s long tradition of diversity in music and art and its reputation as a city that produces and supports great musicians and artists. Please do not pass this ordinance.
5220. Blueblood | May 13, 2008 at 12:33 pm
what probably happened was some adlerman’s kid came home past curfew after being out at a small club seeing some local acts. alderman-dad’s pissed, and now he’s taking it out on all the small venues and local artists.
taxing isn’t the answer to everything!!!
support local music and venues!!!
5221. Austin Dischert | May 13, 2008 at 12:33 pm
don’t be rediculous mr. man, we need our saturday and tuesday and monday and other various nights. you’re just slowly killing off everything worth saving.
5222. Nicole Clark | May 13, 2008 at 12:33 pm
The very thought of this is ridiculous. The Chicago music scene has been such a huge part of my life for years. I would hate to see it taken away and watch others around me not be able to experience one of the most wonderful parts about living in the Chicago area. Anyone with half a brain should be voting against this.
5223. Rick | May 13, 2008 at 12:33 pm
Don’t restrict our freedom!
5224. John | May 13, 2008 at 12:33 pm
Not cool. Please recognize our concerns.
5225. Andrew Ward | May 13, 2008 at 12:33 pm
This is exactly the kind of craziness that’s going to continue to push talented artists and those that support them by putting on shows etc. to leave the city. I believe Chicago has one of the most diverse art cultures in the world but when goverment sees an opportunity to fill it’s pockets and edge the small business out they focus on making things impossible. This ordinace will only hurt the culture in the long run because people will give up on the scene or they will just move elsewhere to cities where expression is both welcome and supported.
Let’s stop this craziness now!
5226. Brandon Good | May 13, 2008 at 12:33 pm
As a performing musician promoter/booker this whole thing is absolutly absured in the first place most of us cant afford to get all of that insurance and licencing and what about our right to gather together lets get rid of this ordinance we are the future and we cant let them extinguish that
5227. Corrie Martin | May 13, 2008 at 12:33 pm
I oppose this ordinance!!!!
5228. Kevin LIlly | May 13, 2008 at 12:33 pm
Vote this down. It will place an unnecessary burden upon the arts community and ultimately drive those creative individuals from our city.
5229. Justin | May 13, 2008 at 12:34 pm
worst ordinance ever!
5230. Leonardo Torres | May 13, 2008 at 12:34 pm
Let the peoples words be known, as we have listed our comments to not let something like this happen, and if it still happens, I hope that our children are educated enough to get rid of it………
Chicago has created tolls that where to go away, but didn’t…
Casinos that where to fund education, as schools are closing….
Taxes and Gas Prices are at record high in Chicago, then across our nation. As these are some of the extra funds that support the city, it make you wonder how the goverment why doesn’t get involve and make sure the funds are being utilized in the areas that they have already allocated for expence.
One time I remember hearing that the Mayor had to cut overtime………. There should be no over time available in a goverment bldg., unless they’re producing something that is marketable or showing profit……….. ARE THEY? NO!!!!
But let create a new ordinance and show the goverment that the city people will give the money back and be forced into happiness………..we done it already on gas, tolls, and casinos. Why not music too………….?
Make you wonder if these needs are actually thought up by people who are somewhat human………?
5231. Kelsey Brown | May 13, 2008 at 12:34 pm
this is absolutely ridiculous and totally unnecessary !
5232. Chris Morrissey | May 13, 2008 at 12:34 pm
Don’t do this.
5233. Elena | May 13, 2008 at 12:35 pm
support your local artists! make it easy for them to create art! it brings life to the city
5234. Casey | May 13, 2008 at 12:35 pm
Absolutely ridiculous. You’re trying to destroy what makes this a great city. If you want us to all remain proud Chicagoans, you will NOT pass this ordinance.
5235. Joe Loas | May 13, 2008 at 12:35 pm
I oppose this ordinance.
5236. Benjamin Waite | May 13, 2008 at 12:35 pm
This ordinance, if passed will have a disastrous effect on the local art and music scene.
5237. Rob Yennerell | May 13, 2008 at 12:35 pm
Just another example of misguided government in the City of Chicago. Who is Mayor Daley helping out with this one??? Please do not pass this ordinance
5238. Jeffrey Lee | May 13, 2008 at 12:36 pm
I really have to question how this total control of artistic freedom makes smaller theatre companies want to produce their work in Chicago. In a city that has become, slowly over the last 20 years, recognized as a leading theatre community throughout the WORLD, why would any company choose to produce work here when the conditions are so prohibitive? I’m going to spread the word so that ALL companies will boycott performing within the city limits. Way to go, City Council. I don’t think the folks at Steppenwolf will be too happy moving to Evanston, especially after one of their ensemble members just won the Pulitzer Prize!! Oh well, I guess no more great work coming out of this city…
5239. Sheila Donlan | May 13, 2008 at 12:36 pm
Sounds like an ill thought out tax on tourists. Supporting the arts is soemthing a city can be proud of not taking away from the arts. This is a regressive tax and embarrassing for a great city to even put it in writing much less submit for approval.
Thank you,
Sheila
5240. Krizchyn | May 13, 2008 at 12:36 pm
As somebody who goes to Chicago with huge group of friends to shows, and wants to go to school there, and potentially live there, I would have to say I would completely boycott the city. I’m sure my friends would too. I know just a few hundred kids is like trying to break down a house with a pebble. But it’s something. The Council wouldn’t be making a very good choice if they passed this. It wouldn’t make it a city anymore.
5241. lauren | May 13, 2008 at 12:36 pm
as a musician and promoter i am frightened my the limitations that may be set forth in front of me.
5242. Jay Stacel | May 13, 2008 at 12:36 pm
Stop this ordinance!
5243. Michael Beach | May 13, 2008 at 12:36 pm
It seems that City Council is hell bent in killing the creative spirit of the Chicago music scene.
Any alderman who supports this ordinance will reap what they sow come election time.
5244. Elizabeth Serilla | May 13, 2008 at 12:36 pm
Vote NO on the Event Promoters Ordinance.
Don’t punish small venues and independent musicians. These punitive measures against Chicago’s music and comedy scenes will not prevent tragedies like the E2 disaster. The ordinance will merely push small venues out of business and musicians out of the city. Upstanding small venues invest in our communities. They work to keep their venues safe and customers happy. That’s why we keep going back. If musicians are forced out of small venues, they’ll leave or move to underground locations that will undoubtably escape city regulation and safety codes.
Please vote no.
5245. Val Kuznetsov | May 13, 2008 at 12:36 pm
I hope that this terrible law won’t pass. It is rediculous and wrong. I can’t believe that there are people out there who creating this marasmus. How did they get there? Who made them in charge of this. Send them all to Kraplakistan or somthing.
5246. Keely Nicole Singer | May 13, 2008 at 12:37 pm
This really saddens me! We cannot let this happen! Please vote against this!
5247. Jamie R | May 13, 2008 at 12:37 pm
Chicago is known for it’s culture. Take that away, and what will happen?
Chicago has been one of the largest music scenes and has produced such success!!!!
Don’t take that away from Chicago. Don’t destroy it.
5248. Justin Vencel | May 13, 2008 at 12:37 pm
Why exactly is this being fast-tracked? What a silly thing to try and pass. How will this be enforced across the city the size of Chicago?
Dipping their hands into such a deeply-rooted scene is ridiculous and makes you wonder who this is really meant to benefit.
There is no way this ordinance should be passed!
5249. Val Kuznetsov | May 13, 2008 at 12:37 pm
I hope that this terrible law won’t pass. It is ridiculous and wrong. I can’t believe that there are people out there who creating this marasmus. How did they get there? Who made them in charge of this. Send them all to Kraplakistan or something.
5250. Lauren | May 13, 2008 at 12:38 pm
This ordinance is awful. Support the chicago scene.
5251. John Warieka | May 13, 2008 at 12:39 pm
Let’s not punish the many great clubs that run things properly for the actions of others. Chicago needs more live music at our local clubs to show the world that we one of the best musical cities on the planet.
5252. Michael | May 13, 2008 at 12:39 pm
Come now. Art = good. Limiting events only to straight WASPS = bad.
- M
5253. jen @ pls magazine | May 13, 2008 at 12:39 pm
PLS Magazine says NO to this ordinance! Is civic govt really THAT broke? We thought Daley cared about the arts!
5254. Katie | May 13, 2008 at 12:39 pm
This is insane!! I moved to Chicago a little over a year ago and love it, but will be on my way out if this happens. The nightlife is a huge chunk of what makes Chicago! This would be a huge mistake!!
5255. Erin L. McKay | May 13, 2008 at 12:39 pm
There’s a major difference between mass corporate-sponsored spectacles and smaller, community-driven performances. The latter are essential to Chicago’s distinct cultural scene and its social cohesion. Please vote AGAINST this ordinance, which would negatively impact the city’s vibrant arts scene.
5256. Jason Milbank | May 13, 2008 at 12:39 pm
I am a music student in Chicago and the environment here is perfect for my studies. My goal is to be a performer and entertain people with my music and if this law is put into effect this would greatly affect my goals in life. The whole musician lifestyle would almost be obsolete, and would kill a lot of great art in chicago.
5257. Jensea Chromy | May 13, 2008 at 12:39 pm
Vote NO on this ordinance. Promoting only profitable culture removes the opportunity for our city to evolve. Shame on Eugene Schulter (47th ward) and Mary Lou Eisenhauer for trying to remove non-vanilla culture from our beloved Chicago. If they can’t take the diversity of the city, than they should move out to a gated and planned community. I hear Del-Webb is running some great specials.
5258. Timothy Coffman | May 13, 2008 at 12:39 pm
I greatly oppose this ordinance! Please do the right thing and DO NOT pass it!
5259. Rachel Mikolajczyk | May 13, 2008 at 12:39 pm
How can anyone think this is a good idea? How can we possibly be moving backwards? The variety and scope of the arts community in Chicago is one of the main reasons that so many young people come to live in the city, and why so many older people choose to stay in a city that already suffers from high living costs and poor public transportation. Moreover, the arts community is a HUGE draw for out of town visitors. What the city makes in this exploitative ordinance fees, I think it will lose in tourist money and money from new residents. I know I wouldn’t have moved here if I didn’t have so many artistic opportunities. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don’t pass this stupid and restrictive ordinance! Think of the future!
5260. Harriot | May 13, 2008 at 12:39 pm
This ordinance does not benefit any of the people. The government cannot stop nor curtail the people from artistic expression. Requiring a promoter’s license and further prevention of small venues and assemblies will drive the music and artistic scenes even further underground. This will place more pressure on law enforcement, make outlaws of those who choose to hold small gatherings, and will increase the chasm between the two sides.
The chipping away of our rights as citizens (in the name of finances or protection) should not be tolerated any longer. Act up.
5261. Lauren | May 13, 2008 at 12:39 pm
Please do not suppress Chicago’s vibrant musicians/artists.
5262. Pablo V. Mena | May 13, 2008 at 12:40 pm
More legislation looking for a problem to solve — while instead creating one. As an independent musician in the city, I can only view this ordinance as a way to generate more money for the city while doing grievous harm to Chicago’s music scene. Small promoters and artists alike would find it very hard if not impossible to deliver and promote events at the venues we all know and love. VOTE NO, Aldermen!
5263. Jason Shepard | May 13, 2008 at 12:40 pm
This ordinance, if passed, would do great harm to Chicago’s cultural value. Small, independent venues are the lifeblood of our music community here, and this ordinance will put many of them out of business. No local independent promoter (who promote most of the shows in Chicago) will be able to meet these requirements, and it would not be feasible for touring acts to meet the requirements just to play a small show in Chicago. Please vote against this ordinance!
5264. Nate Torrence | May 13, 2008 at 12:41 pm
It sounds like this would mean no small venues. It seems unreal, like a nightmare, to have a city where one could only see live music at big venues, amongst thousands of other people. A city without acoustic singer coffee shops and small venue dance parties is A CITY WITHOUT INTIMACY.
5265. Sam Billings | May 13, 2008 at 12:41 pm
I OPPOSE THIS ORDINANCE! You can’t make me patronize your sanctioned music and theatre but you can probably make me move.
5266. Craig Miller | May 13, 2008 at 12:42 pm
I cannot believe this move by the city of Chicago. It is tough enough to promote yourself, get a gig and make a living without such proposed absurd practices. Please open your eyes and ears and don’t squash what really makes this city great.
5267. Lesley Kartali | May 13, 2008 at 12:42 pm
this ordinance is absurd! this would alter drastically many of the events i adore going to. that make chicago so great.
5268. Camden Daily | May 13, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Stop the insanity!
5269. Carla | May 13, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Chicago’s diverse art and culture scene are what makes it such a fascinating and exciting place to live. Passing this ordinance would be Chicago shooting itself in the foot. It’s bewildering to think the city council doesn’t know that. And, of course, it smacks of money mongering and greed. Spearing the theater and music scenes with such unreasonable fees would only hurt their precious tourist industry. And I dare say they’d lose much of Chicago’s creative class to other more friendly cities.
5270. Steve Morris | May 13, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Chicago needs to take a lesson from Phoenix and support the arts like they do, not regulate them!
5271. Mike Hart | May 13, 2008 at 12:42 pm
I’ve always felt that Chicago’s vibrant and open music scene is one of the characteristics that separates it from other large American cities.
Maybe the city does not share this view. That’s sad.
5272. Jill Winski | May 13, 2008 at 12:42 pm
This ordinance is completely misguided. My own love of Chicago, and that of so many others who love and/or work in the performing arts, is based on its diversity and its embrace of “small” shows and performers. Please don’t take away a huge part of what makes Chicago the vital city it is.
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5274. Carla | May 13, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Chicago’s diverse art and culture scenes are what make it such a fascinating and exciting place to live. Passing this ordinance would be Chicago shooting itself in the foot. It’s bewildering to think the city council doesn’t know that. And, of course, it smacks of money mongering and greed. Spearing the theater and music scenes with such unreasonable fees would only hurt their precious tourist industry. And I dare say they’d lose much of Chicago’s creative class to other more friendly cities.
5275. Rob Zwissler | May 13, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Proposed ordinances like this are just the kind of short sighted knee jerk reactions which end up damaging the greater good they are supposed to benefit. Bad laws suck.
Rob
5276. Tim Comp | May 13, 2008 at 12:42 pm
What is the reason for eliminating these small businesses from Chicago? As if our economy needs to be driven into a deeper whole than it already is in. Chicago has been a city built on it’s music for years and years, don’t take that away from the city and its people. How much must be stripped from the American citizen before these “higher-ups” are satisfied? First, the live music community is eliminated. What’s next? Getting rid of record stores unless they are owned by Wal-Mart or some other big business company? Why not eliminate music in Chicago altogether? If this ordinance gets passed, who knows what more is to come.
5277. Todd Aiello | May 13, 2008 at 12:43 pm
The culture and artistic scenes of Chicago are a major part of what makes it a great city. No ordinance that would do harm to these should be enacted.
5278. Bryn | May 13, 2008 at 12:43 pm
Doesn’t Chicago have more pressing issues like public transport and gun crime?!
Or are they trying to squeeze as much money as possible from these smaller events?
Shocking!
5279. John Ragir | May 13, 2008 at 12:44 pm
This tax and these measures will stifle what is a major component of Chicago’s vitality. I oppose this ordinance.
5280. Erin Tedesco, Old Town School of Folk Music | May 13, 2008 at 12:44 pm
This will cripple Chicago’s musicians and artists! We have a right to make a living, too- not just big names at big venues!
5281. Philip | May 13, 2008 at 12:44 pm
Does this surprise anyone? The elected officials in this city have always been greedy jerks.
5282. Patrick Gavula | May 13, 2008 at 12:44 pm
Let’s not let the man beat us down… this is seriously the most ridiculous proposal I have EVER heard of… I wonder if this has anything to do with the 2016 Olympics, hmm?
5283. chrissy henry | May 13, 2008 at 12:44 pm
please allow Chicago’s music and art scene to thrive – do not pass this ordinance!
5284. Dave R. | May 13, 2008 at 12:44 pm
I oppose the ordinance.
5285. Godfrey Mason | May 13, 2008 at 12:44 pm
Don’t take away or destroy Chicago largest cultural music. Don’t take this away.
5286. Simon Hess | May 13, 2008 at 12:44 pm
NO! I’m strongly opposed and will spread the word to others that I know will be outraged at this. This can’t be allowed to happen!
5287. Adam Desjardins | May 13, 2008 at 12:45 pm
Keep Chicago theater alive.
5288. Cory Coken | May 13, 2008 at 12:45 pm
Please stop this ridiculous ordinance now.
5289. Adarryll T. Gaston | May 13, 2008 at 12:46 pm
I think this is an hypocrisy… based on the evidence that Chicago prides itself on the talent pool that has been born and bred here. I figure this will not even make since considering how much money and resources will be moved away from the city than brought to the city…
Tourism will be affected by this… and considering that I am a Chicagoan…. I love culture…
This will disabling of such beautiful resources will not only stunt my growth, but my children’s growth, for we love to be out and experience the rich culture chicago has to offer…
5290. Sarah Gentile | May 13, 2008 at 12:46 pm
Chicago is the best city for independent music, and this ordinance could forever change this. So many amazing bands have their roots in Chicago and I know for a lot of my friends that are musicians, this is going to make it impossible for them to get coverage and a wider fan base. We need to stop this. Now.
5291. Julia Klimentowski | May 13, 2008 at 12:46 pm
This is outrageous! The politicians and the city of Chicago do not care about the art and culture of Chicago and just want to make money!
This ordinance needs to be stopped.
5292. chrissy henry | May 13, 2008 at 12:46 pm
please allow Chicago’s music and art scene to thrive – do not pass this ordinance!
5293. Kristin M. | May 13, 2008 at 12:46 pm
NO!
5294. Alyssa Moore | May 13, 2008 at 12:46 pm
Taking out Chicago’s creative heart will in no way help the city.
5295. mbiasiello | May 13, 2008 at 12:46 pm
Do not strip this city of it’s right to assemble creatively, relegating live culture to corporate sponsored moments. This feels like the threat to a fundamental human right.
5296. monika | May 13, 2008 at 12:46 pm
this is absolutely ridiculous!
bands wouldn’t even be able to put their flyers up around the venues, they wouldnt even be able to stand outside of a show handing out flyers!
how are bands supposed to promote themselves when they start out? when they are trying to gain a following???
if the city approves this, I can see bands skipping chicago more and more on their tours. the city’s music scene is going to die.
5297. John Abbey | May 13, 2008 at 12:47 pm
This is a LOUD voice against this ordinance.
5298. Natasha | May 13, 2008 at 12:47 pm
This is absolutly outrageous!
Please don’t pass this ordinance!
Do not eliminate the music community from performing in Chicago!
5299. Dulce M. Diaz | May 13, 2008 at 12:47 pm
We don’t want to see the day the music died….The independent music/art industry of Chicago makes our city that much more beautiful, please do not strip us for more loot. It’s bad enough our transportation prices are escalating as well as our taxes now we need to be taxed to dance as well…you are taking away the soul of our city. Thanks alot.
5300. Pia Opulencia | May 13, 2008 at 12:47 pm
Diversity is one of humanity’s greatest characteristic. Without it, the evolution of music, culture, and perspective would fade away. It would be a big disappointment to see this happen to Chicago, as I’ve always considered Chicago to be a diverse city full of color and interesting things to do, people to meet, and music to listen to. Why keep people from achieving their dreams? Why restrict show-goers from discovering new music or giving their friends’ bands a supportive appearance? Please, don’t let this ordinance pass. It would erase the musical lives of many of my friends and threaten to depress the creativity of an entire city (including colleges, universities, libraries, churches, and other venues unable to support their programs).
5301. Patrick | May 13, 2008 at 12:47 pm
Vote against the Promoters ordinance. If the mayor believes the ordinance will help bring in more money … he’s wrong. In fact, the opposite will happen because there will be far less going on in the city and people will be pressed to go else where to catch local talent.
5302. Jereny Frye | May 13, 2008 at 12:47 pm
Who would this benefit? What good can come out of this if it is passed. Seriously, a city who has a reputation of producing some of the most popular and influential artists should not be limiting them. Shame on whoever thought this ridiculous idea up.
5303. Beth Chambers Boyle | May 13, 2008 at 12:47 pm
Don’t do it. It’s a grave mistake and Chicago will lose their arts community. We have something so special here in Chicago, people come from all over the world for art, comedy, music, stage performance. This just doesn’t make sense.
5304. Loree Washington | May 13, 2008 at 12:47 pm
Yet another senseless law!
Aren’t parking tickets bringing enough revenue to the City as it is?
This law can’t just be a tactic for the City to generate more funds! I would assume that I am not privy to all the circumstances surrounding the initiation of the bill, but could not think of any ideology that justifies the stifling of creativity, the loss of jobs, and/or the demise of small business owners.
I vote “NO”!!!!!
5305. Natalie Burris | May 13, 2008 at 12:48 pm
this can’t happen.
5306. Sean Wiedel | May 13, 2008 at 12:48 pm
I oppose this ordinance. Please add my name to the list.
5307. Lynn Scharf | May 13, 2008 at 12:49 pm
Placing these restrictions on artist is ridiculous. As if it wasn’t hard enough to pursue creative endeavors already. My band will be playing at uncommon Grounds this June and we are so excite to be a pat of such a thriving music culture. Don’t pass a bill that will strangle it.
5308. Christine Raczkiewycz | May 13, 2008 at 12:49 pm
Stop the Promoter’s Ordinance! I highly disapprove of this ordinance. Chicago has one of the greatest music scenes in the world, and this would do tremendous damage to it. The city generates millions in revenue because of its music scene, which comes from the actual events, tourism, transportation, liquor revenues, etc.. I attend concerts on a periodic basis, and would definitely be very disappointed if I wasn’t able to see the bands that perform in Chicago!
5309. Elizabeth Lesinski | May 13, 2008 at 12:49 pm
I am 100% against this ordinance!
5310. Rob Fagin | May 13, 2008 at 12:49 pm
If the theatre and music scene were not as vibrant and exciting and intimate as it is now and has been, I would have moved from this cold city many years ago.
Vote no – you can do better than this.
Thank you.
5311. unicorncop | May 13, 2008 at 12:49 pm
FREEDOM!!
5312. Kristin Reeves | May 13, 2008 at 12:49 pm
I am strongly against this ordinance. If it would pass I would have to move out of the city to continue my performance/video art as I could not afford the additional costs. Please do not kill art in Chicago!
5313. Analisa Terenzio | May 13, 2008 at 12:49 pm
One of Chicago’s best qualities is the accessibility of its smaller music shows. Places like Schubas and the Vic, are why I choose to stay in this city. This is our culture, and we should be working towards better accommodating and not oppressing these institutions. The council would be making a horrible decision if they went through with this.
5314. elizabeth z | May 13, 2008 at 12:49 pm
please vote No for this ordinance!!!
5315. Karlene Anderson | May 13, 2008 at 12:49 pm
I don’t see how anyone could see this as being a wise thing to do for the Chicago music scene and a city’s culture in general at a time when Chicago is trying to show the Olympic people how it is such a great a City. If this goes through I will personally have to think twice about having an independent consulting business for pr, promotion, artist management, etc.
5316. Donny | May 13, 2008 at 12:49 pm
First I can’t smoke a cigarette at a concert and now I can’t even go to a concert. What’s the next nanny state ordinance coming down the pike? Mandatory ear plugs when within 15 feet of stage? Quality footwear required for entrance into first floor standing area?
5317. Josh Honn | May 13, 2008 at 12:50 pm
As someone who has been playing in bands, setting up shows, doing random promotion and attending small, independent venues for almost 15 years now, I must write to implore the City Council to NOT pass this ordinance. If Chicago wants to keep its proud tradition of a vibrant music, theater and arts scene alive then this ordinance must not pass. Imagine the second biggest market in the nation being bypassed by hundreds, maybe thousands, of bands because of something so fickle and greedy and completely destructive as this ordinance. Not only does this ordinance need to not pass but it needs to never be brought up in any other subtly changed form ever again. This is a reactionary, fundamentally flawed and all around bad deal. Please think about this and all of the issues raised by the people, promoters, musicians and fans of Chicago’s arts scene before you vote! And then vote NO!
5318. Michael Courier | May 13, 2008 at 12:50 pm
How about no? This will do more harm than good. Everyone should be against this.
5319. Adam Rash | May 13, 2008 at 12:50 pm
Please consider this my signature on the petition. This is outrageous and must me stopped!
5320. abbey | May 13, 2008 at 12:51 pm
Where will you find me on a Friday or Saturday night.. poss even on Sundays or a weekday depending on who is playing.. but at a local venue in Chicago. Usually the Double Door, Beat Kitchen and Schubas. The music in Chicago is perfect and always provides a good time. I’m not sure what will happen if this law is passed but it will be hard for any fans or the bands trying to do there job.
5321. Andrew | May 13, 2008 at 12:51 pm
yea, not a good idea.
5322. Robert | May 13, 2008 at 12:51 pm
This ordinance seems like a very bad idea for a city that prides itself on its music and arts scene. Remember that from small seeds, major cultural institutions grow. Let us not limit the development of new cultural attractions in Chicago.
5323. » Blog Archive » stop the ordinance! | May 13, 2008 at 12:51 pm
[...] the city of chicago is trying to pass an “event promoters” ordinance tomorrow that would threaten to kill everyone’s ability to put on music, art and cultural events in chicago. this would severely limit or even shut down places like AV-aerie (where DEPART-ment is hosted), the empty bottle, events like version fest, art openings, collective shows and many more. music and art is what makes our city great – no one wants to live in a mall with music provided by clear channel, so make your voice heard! contact your alderman today and sign this petition: http://savechicagoculture.org/2008/05/09/stop-the-promoters-ordinance/ [...]
5324. Rob Black | May 13, 2008 at 12:51 pm
A lot of what makes this city hum on a cultural level occurs under the radar. It’s not the Stones at Soldier Field, it’s some jazz act that blows your mind at the Hungry Brain. This is the equivalent of banning all pizza but Gino’s. Sure, you’ll still have pizza in the city, just not the best stuff. Please reconsider and revamp this ill-conceived ordinance.
5325. Vincent Hernandez | May 13, 2008 at 12:52 pm
this is the scariest thing i’ve read in my entire life. i see the city that i’ve grown up in for 23 years being stripped of everything i love about it. look at how many great things have come from this city’s cultural scene. this will stop the next chris farley, john and jim belushi, fall out boy, ect. this is terrible and might force great actors, comics and musicians to leave this great city. why would we want to lose such great talent. would anyone want to take that away from the people of this great city.
5326. Ned Rothenberg | May 13, 2008 at 12:52 pm
Just a NYC musician looking in but as someone who loves playing in Chicago and positively envies aspects of the music scene there, let me add my voice and say:
Don’t do it Chicago, passing this law would be a
BIG mistake!
5327. Kristin Reeves | May 13, 2008 at 12:52 pm
I am strongly against this ordinance. If this passes I would have to move out of the city to continue my video/performance art as the costs would be too high. Please do not kill art in Chicago as we know it!!!
5328. Joy | May 13, 2008 at 12:52 pm
You cannot be serious.
Do you realize how important Chicago is to the country’s music (and other arts) scene? Personally, I know that over half of my favorite artists have come from the Chicago area, and if not for the great local-music support that goes on there, they never would’ve recieved the attention they deserve. True, this change could bring some people great profit, but think about all those aspiring artists in that area. How will they ever get recognition if they’re forced to pay outrageous prices to show their work? They won’t. So by doing this, you’re actually putting lots of people out of work.
So, if the City does decide to make this horror a reality, Chicago will not only end up losing a big part of it’s amazing culture, but also a large portion of its tourists.
5329. allen barnes | May 13, 2008 at 12:52 pm
this just another way for the city of Chicago to get money from the little man!!! schemes and wool over the citizens eyes. every time they want to pass a law to make more money they play on our fears. I’m pretty sure this all steams from the whole E2 incident. Look this happen and its unfortunate. we need to just learn from the bad and apply it to the good. not wrap it up in fake cause to make more money.
when is elections time again????
we need a change, a change for the people.
5330. Phil Jensen | May 13, 2008 at 12:53 pm
Chicago is known for it’s great local music, as well as the many venues that give artists the opportunity to express themselves. If they pass this law, they might as well change the name of Wrigley Field and demolish the Sears Tower while they’re at it…..because all they would be doing is taking a chunk out of Chicago. DON’T let this thing be passed!
5331. Joel R. Gearring | May 13, 2008 at 12:53 pm
This is so ridiculous and outrageous.
What else can we do to stop this?
When will big bullies STOP picking on the little guy?
It is time we take a stand!!!
5332. Abby Covert | May 13, 2008 at 12:53 pm
Please don’t let this happen.
5333. Kristen Carney | May 13, 2008 at 12:53 pm
What is happening to our country? No art? I guess I should just go move to Amish Country. They seem to have to same ideals. By the way… is gray the only color we are allowed to wear?
5334. Mark Galit | May 13, 2008 at 12:53 pm
Please add my name to the list!
5335. Patrick Lyman | May 13, 2008 at 12:54 pm
Why would a city like Chicago want to squelch its rich musical culture? Let’s just tear down the Water Tower while we’re at it.
5336. Nick Mizock | May 13, 2008 at 12:54 pm
As someone who is about to completely enter the freelance music scene in Chicago, I’m extremely shocked to see such an absurd ordinance get this far. Regardless of how the vote turns out this simply won’t work and artists won’t stand for it.
5337. Matt | May 13, 2008 at 12:54 pm
Absolutely ridiculous
5338. Linda Horwitz | May 13, 2008 at 12:54 pm
Please do not pass this ordinance- Chicago needs these small venues and events.
5339. Nick Mizock | May 13, 2008 at 12:54 pm
As someone who is about to completely enter the freelance music scene in Chicago, I’m extremely shocked to see such an absurd ordinance get this far. Regardless of how the vote turns out this simply won’t work and the people who live in Chicago won’t stand for it.
5340. Daaiyah A. Ziyad | May 13, 2008 at 12:55 pm
Alderman Sandi Jackson (7th Ward):
Passing of the Promoter’s Ordinance into law will have a very negative effect on the music scene in Chicago. If this ordinance in its current language is passed, Chicago musicians of African descent will be basically put out of business. Culturally speaking, Chicago will not be the same vibrant, culturally rich place that it is now. Musicians who self-promote themselves or small neighborhood bars/lounges can’t afford the obscene amount of money that is outlined in this ordinance.
Please vote against this ordinance.
Thank you.
D. A. Ziyad
5341. Kristen Carney | May 13, 2008 at 12:55 pm
What is happening to our country? No art? I guess I should just go move to Amish Country. They seem to have to same ideals. By the way… is grey the only color we are allowed to wear?
5342. Hudson | May 13, 2008 at 12:56 pm
Let it be noted that this ridiculous ordinance is an element of Mayor Daley’s ongoing war against Chicago’s nightlife, which he regards as a noisy annoyance which will only lead to complaints from the affluent middle-aged white man who just moved in on the block!
5343. Daniel Goggin | May 13, 2008 at 12:56 pm
Signed
5344. Arunas Ingaunis | May 13, 2008 at 12:56 pm
I have worked with hundreds of artists, musicians, DJs, promoters, non-for-profit organizations, and good will charities in the last five and half years at darkroom (Ukrainian Village) and the effect that this ordinance would have on these people, the community that supports them, and the revenue that these events generate for city tax dollars would be devastating. With the nearly annual “sin tax” increases, newly proposed city sales tax increase, and sluggish worldwide economy, hasn’t the general public endured enough? If there were an E2 tragedy in this city every other weekend, I could understand a need for this emergency proposal, but legitimate venues that support the arts in Chicago have already complied with the city’s strict capacity, building, and fire codes in the wake of this unfortunate event, and we have not seen another one like it in the five years since this happened. This ordinance is not a solution, and in fact will create a much bigger problem for a very large number of concerned citizens.
5345. karin fjellman | May 13, 2008 at 12:56 pm
Keeping the arts alive in this huge, wonderful city is far too important for this scene to be so quickly and (largely) unknowingly squashed. I know people who have moved here exactly for the purpose of getting more involved and active in both the thriving, exciting music and comedy scenes — what will happen to Chicago’s cultural reputation if much of the venues that aid this disappear?
I love this city so, so much for its cultural and artistic diversity, and I am certain that the majority of its residents would agree. Why are its leaders so ready to erase such a hefty portion of that?
5346. Jeff Schneider | May 13, 2008 at 12:57 pm
This ordinance is horrible. Small musical venues are the life-blood of the chicago music scene. I disagree completely with this proposal.
5347. DJ PAUL MARCO | May 13, 2008 at 12:57 pm
im not even from Chicago but i do go there to party and pick up some vinyl…from nyc…..Government always trying make some money some how
5348. James Ruzicka Jr | May 13, 2008 at 12:57 pm
I may not know much about the music scene, but I know several people that do. As the husband of an amazingly talented up and coming star wife ( Screams In Silence) and the friend of a band who is on their way to the top (Private Joker), this ordinance would directly affect my life, as well as those in my life who love music and the arts. The majority of up and coming bands come to Chicagos small venues with the hopes and dreams of being seen by someone that would take them to that next step and get the exposure that they desire. Even those that dont care about making it big and that just play for the love of the music will be losing that oppurtunity, and why? All because the greedy politicians of Chicago have to find ways to line their own pockets, these are the same scum bags that drain our tax dollars on a daily basis to fill their Cadis and Mercedes that we as residents of Chicago pay for out of our tax dollars. This is just a sorry excuse to make the rich richer, and keep the poor from getting their hands on some cash. As a fan of the arts, I cannot support this move, and will fight along the side of my wife and friends until this problem is rectified and the city of Chicago can once again be an arts and music hot spot. I can only hope that the politicians see the fight that we as the people are putting up. Everyone who posted to be against this is doing a great job and should not quit now, keep up the hard work and fight for what is right.
James Ruzicka Jr
5349. Loreli Manrique | May 13, 2008 at 12:57 pm
Please don’t let this happen.
5350. Ellen Domonkos | May 13, 2008 at 12:58 pm
I’m definitely opposed to this ordinance. The reason I love this city would be squashed in one fast swoop if this ordinance is approved. Please consider this my signature in big letters on this petition.
5351. Amy Eaton | May 13, 2008 at 12:58 pm
I oppose this odinance.
Chicago has been my home for most of my adult life precisely because it is a vibrant arts community.
5352. Rob | May 13, 2008 at 12:58 pm
This proposal is ridiculously bad and is completely against Daley’s goal of making Chicago a “world class” city.
5353. Jonathan A. Chiou | May 13, 2008 at 12:58 pm
The city of Chicago would be making a terrible mistake in passing this ordinance. What makes the Windy City so unique in comparison to other metropolitan locales is the sense of community present in the small, independent venues and the passion of the people involved. To allow the “promoter’s ordinance” to be passed into law would be the death of so many great outlets of creative energy and expression, as well as severely limiting the entertainment choices of everyone in the tri-state area.
Chicago has been the birthplace of some great musical styles ranging from jazz, to blues, to house.The experimentations and mutations that birthed these rhythms and beats could have only taken place in our local, independent venues.
As a fan of live music and as a musician, I would hate to see the city of Chicago be so blind in neglecting the needs of its artists. I feel that I speak for all members of the entertainment community when I say that we all appreciate the efforts the city has made to ensure a safer, more enjoyable entertainment experience. But the measures listed in the proposed ordinance are ludicrous and elitist, serving only to line the pockets of those who care only about money, not art.
5354. Lisa Grayson | May 13, 2008 at 12:58 pm
Please vote NO on the promoters’ ordinance. The proposed law doesn’t distinguish between big-bucks organizations and the small ones, for profit or not, that bring entertainment to the city because of their love of music and desire to share it with others. Give independent musicians and their supporters a chance by voting against the ordinance.
5355. Debbie Dodge | May 13, 2008 at 12:58 pm
Please add my name to the list to save an important part of what makes Chicago great — the small groups of people who get together to put on a show, whether it’s theater, music, art or something else entirely.
Also, please go to savegrantpark.org to sign the petition there to keep Grant Park clear, free and open.
Thanks.
5356. Alice McGorty | May 13, 2008 at 12:58 pm
The majority of people I know organizing and promoting small, independent events in Chicago are not making a single penny doing so (in fact they often lose money). Yet because they are not employed by non-profit organizations, this ordinance will cause them to have to pay the same fees that the big guys pay.
A $500 license fee is a lot of money for someone who books an occasional event out of a love for music. Add to that the minimum of $700 for event insurance (Ald. Waguespack thinks that’s not a lot of money because he pays more for a year of car insurance…) and people who have full-time day jobs and are barely breaking even because of rising costs in every other aspect of their lives are not going to take the time and money to organize any more events if this ordinance passes.
Who loses? Everyone who resides in Chicago. Please vote against this ordinance.
5357. Margaret Weber | May 13, 2008 at 12:59 pm
Small independent theater and music are what make the cultural fabric of Chicago rich and varied. We should be looking for ways to encourage such culture instead of inhibiting it.
5358. Scarlett Stoppa | May 13, 2008 at 12:59 pm
When people ask me what I love about Chicago I invariably answer the rich vibrant music and arts scene. It’s a city in its renaissance! What this ordinance doesn’t take into account is all those many comforts local artists, musicians, and art/music purveyors have given up in order to make Chicago a ground-breaker in every sector of the arts. Don’t make the pursuit of creativity any harder than it already is. And don’t censor our free choice through stifling regulations and economics. I beg you. I really don’t want to move again.
5359. Jamie Marshall | May 13, 2008 at 12:59 pm
Stop this ridiculous ordinance from being passed! Chicago would never be the same.
5360. Tim Martin | May 13, 2008 at 12:59 pm
This city needs. NEEDS the freedom of small venue and local performances. People already complain about Chicago not being on the map in arts and culture. This ordinance will ensure the death of arts and culture in this city. If individuals do not have the freedom to express themselves artistically in a venue of their choosing, why are we living in this country? How many inalienable rights are we violating? I thought this was the United States of America. I thought this was the land of freedom. Perhaps it was foolish of me to believe that, but I still have hope for this country, for this city and its people. I know we can fight this.
5361. Nicole Furlan | May 13, 2008 at 12:59 pm
The only thing this ordinance will promote is the struggle of up-and-coming venues, groups, and artists. Chicago is known for fostering the creativity and development of future success stories… are we really willing to throw that away?
5362. Bonnie | May 13, 2008 at 1:00 pm
I am against this ordinance.
5363. Hannah | May 13, 2008 at 1:00 pm
This ordinance is utterly ridiculous and can only hurt Chicago and its musicians. Please don’t pass it.
5364. ryan leary | May 13, 2008 at 1:00 pm
please do NOT let this ordinance pass. One of the main reasons i moved to the great city of Chicago was it’s great independent music/art community. With increasing city taxes already strangling city residents the last thing the underground (ie not as well off, honest) music community needs is something like this to impede it’s existence. VOTE NO!
5365. Delphine | May 13, 2008 at 1:00 pm
PLEASE ! Don’t do this !!!
5366. Richard E Falls Jr | May 13, 2008 at 1:01 pm
Why would chicago want to take money away from struggling musicians. We’re already going to be poor. I disapprove.
5367. Dave Cronin | May 13, 2008 at 1:01 pm
This thing will completely DESTROY the indi scene in Chicago, something that a lot of people put a lot of hard work into building up what it is today. This CANNOT pass.
5368. Justin Pilling | May 13, 2008 at 1:01 pm
Wow. You would figure that the Chicago City Council would leave one of the few functioning parts of the city alone, but apparently not. If this goes into action, I would rather live elsewhere. This would effectively kill Chicago’s local culture.
5369. Steve Holland | May 13, 2008 at 1:01 pm
This has to do with big ticket agencies and their strangle hold on large venue ticket sales. CRAP. VOTE NO!
5370. Rebecca Grossman | May 13, 2008 at 1:02 pm
The entire reason I moved to this city, is because of the small artistic companies that could create here. More beautiful artistic works come out of Chicago than most places in teh United States, and this ordinance would devestate that. Please don’t do it.
5371. Gideon Akande | May 13, 2008 at 1:02 pm
I do not approve
5372. rachael | May 13, 2008 at 1:02 pm
NO!
5373. Sarah | May 13, 2008 at 1:02 pm
Why would you want do something so ridiculous to Chicago’s music industry? Honestly I’ve been to more shows/concerts then I can count and I’m only 18. I go to support the bands and artist that I love, but I also go because it’s Chicago! Chicago has opened my eyes to many, many bands and there a lot of BIG/SIGNED bands that have come out of Chicago and they come back to play over and over again because they love the scene. Also every band always talks about how they love playing in Chicago that the people are so a live! Chicago is an enormous city that provides a lot of music opportunity’s to everyone. I go to the free concerts in the summer in park and enjoy just being in Chicago. I really hope this law isn’t passed it would definitely be the crash in Chicago’s music scene. :[
5374. Dave Cronin | May 13, 2008 at 1:02 pm
This thing will completely DESTROY the indie scene in Chicago, something that a lot of people put a lot of hard work into building up what it is today. This CANNOT pass.
5375. Karen Murtagh | May 13, 2008 at 1:02 pm
I am a registered voter and as I wrote my Alderman, Helen Shiller, today, live music is one of the things that makes neighborhoods like Uptown as great as they are in Chicago. Unnecessarily harsh regulations like the one up for vote tomorrow will injure Chicago’s music world. I strongly urge all City Council members to vote against the proposed ordinance. Voting on this issue will influence *my* voting decisions.
5376. Rachel | May 13, 2008 at 1:02 pm
I love our local music scene! Please do not pass this ordinance.
Rachel Rubin
Chicago, IL
5377. Suwat | May 13, 2008 at 1:03 pm
Keep the local scene going! this is totally unfair to the little guys, Pls vote against this bullshit.
5378. Max Lockwood | May 13, 2008 at 1:03 pm
As an aspiring musician who hopes to continue to play in small clubs that would be affected by this ordinance, I am appalled that this is even being considered. Please OPPOSE this and VOTE NO.
5379. Beryl J. Turner III | May 13, 2008 at 1:03 pm
As a DJ, event organizer, and advocate of independent music, this is clearly an ill-conceived notion.
Anytime that you make something like this illegal, it simply goes to the underground and the very “shady” promoters that they are striving to stop, will be the ones who will profit the most from this.
Heaven save us from well-meaning people. More evil has been done in the name of good, than for any other reason.
5380. John Boston | May 13, 2008 at 1:03 pm
The main reason I live in this city is for its vibrant local music and theatre scene. I highly doubt than anyone voting on this ordinance has even attended a show at any of the venues that will be most adversely affected by this astoundingly unfair and obviously greedy ordinance. Where does this money go, I wonder?
Alderman Schulter, I am in your ward, and I can assure you that if you support this ordinance, you will lose my vote. But if this ordinance is passed, the City of Chicago will ultimately lose much more. Where do you think future club owners, promoters, musicians and theatre professionals get their start? At tiny clubs and theatres where the artists are not paid much (or at all) for their time, talent and energy. They do it for the love of their art! By saddling this community of artists with ridiculous and exhorbitant licenscing fees, you are helping to destroy many of Chicago’s greatest attractions and resources. If passed, this ordinance will be a nail in the coffin of Chicago’s local music and theatre worlds.
I sincerely hope that you will reconsider the intent and fairness of this ordinance and take a moment to contemplate its (unintended) impact on the city’s artistic community.
- John Boston
5381. Kevin | May 13, 2008 at 1:03 pm
Add my name. This is in no way good.
5382. Dustin Carper | May 13, 2008 at 1:03 pm
This can’t happen! We have so many great signer-songwriters in Chicago, and they need to be heard.
5383. Erin Polley | May 13, 2008 at 1:03 pm
Chicago is known around the world for it’s vibrant music scene-starting with the small blues clubs that generated artists like Muddy Waters and Buddy Guy, to the invention of house by DJ’s like Frankie Knuckles and countless other producers and promoters around the city.
This ordinance will destroy the legacy of all those who came before us, those who paved the way and have inspired us to keep Chicago’s music scene fresh and ongoing.
Please do not let this ordinance take away our right to bring music and culture to this city and it’s visitors.
5384. Joseph Freer | May 13, 2008 at 1:03 pm
The city needs to take actions to support and assist the arts. The arts are what makes this city great and colorful. This ordinance will squash out the little guys who make the Chicago music scene unique. A city without diverse musical representation is a city without color.
5385. Joseph Fedorko | May 13, 2008 at 1:03 pm
As a playwright and producer, this ordinance is insane and completely unnecessary. It appears to be nothing more than an attempt by certain mega-wealthy and mega-connected producers to corner the market in promoting every piece of arts production in Chicago.
In addition, to have this ordinance threaten to become law at the same time the city is trying to present itself as a leader worthy of being given the 2016 Olympics is laughable.
It needs to be stopped and never considered again.
P.S.: Artists Vote, Too!
5386. Nathan | May 13, 2008 at 1:03 pm
This is a travesty. This would cut out the heart of the city. Maybe if we voted the Libertarians in power we wouldn’t have this ever-expanding governmental control.
Very sad…
5387. Aly Bockler | May 13, 2008 at 1:03 pm
This is outrageous……we can’t let this happen to Chicago, a city built on music and performance art! Please stop this from a “yes” vote!
5388. diane choi | May 13, 2008 at 1:04 pm
there are much better ways to increase city coffers
5389. Eli | May 13, 2008 at 1:04 pm
This cannot happen! Keep hope alive!!
5390. Daniel Gasca | May 13, 2008 at 1:04 pm
Once again the city is failing to see the big picture. The liability of the E2 incident has always been with the club owner’s negligence to correct past citations. If this ordinance was in effect back then, the end result would have been the same.
Please do not pass this ordinance!!
5391. Ivan Russia | May 13, 2008 at 1:04 pm
This Law would be directly responsible for creating the kind of events it is trying to protect Chicago from. If performers can not perform legally because it is too costly or the venues are shut down then they will perform illegally in illegal venues. Your statistically more likely to get physically hurt at a baseball game then a music show. This is by far the most absurd legal move I have ever had waved in my face, I want it stopped and dropped and not brought up again.
5392. Julie | May 13, 2008 at 1:05 pm
As someone who has gotten so much from the Chicago music scene, I can’t imagine other young people not getting the chance to do the same. This ordinance seems to be targeting exactly the kind of places that have made Chicago one of the most beloved music scenes in the country.
5393. Sara Czosnyka | May 13, 2008 at 1:05 pm
How could Chicago ever consider rivaling the opportunities and experiences of other major players like NYC or Paris if it quiets the creative voices of so many? Creatives make cities valuable, they are a great source of revenue, and how could Daily every expect us to flourish with putting on these expensive restraints?
5394. amy richards | May 13, 2008 at 1:05 pm
it amazes me that a city so ‘proud’ of its culture would be so ignorant. chicago is supposed to be about art and music and theatre and excitement. support culture, don’t suppress it.
5395. Alyse Kittner | May 13, 2008 at 1:05 pm
Chicago theatre has it’s history in small storefront start-up theaters. This is who the ordinance is targeting. As a performer, I beg of you – let Chicago theater continue to develop – don’t let this ordinance pass! Consider this my signature on this petition.
5396. John Angle | May 13, 2008 at 1:05 pm
This sort of poorly-worded, draconian legislation is designed to do nothing more than add revenue to the city coffers. But there is already plenty of legislation on the books that not only provides addtional money for the city, but also protects its citizens. Please do not waste our time and money with this pointlessly redundant garbage. Enforce the laws already on the books.
5397. Taylor Brode | May 13, 2008 at 1:05 pm
signed.
5398. Zachery Barnett | May 13, 2008 at 1:05 pm
We can’t let them pass something that will destroy so many peoples’ passion.
5399. Evan | May 13, 2008 at 1:05 pm
…I’ve posted a link back to this blog entry in an attempt to spread the word about this horrible ordinance. Chicago has already stolen from it’s citizens Lounge Ax — one of the most incredible live music venues in the entire country — through excessively expensive (and required) zoning licenses and a “you can’t just be a bar, you have to be a cabaret that serves food” policy. It’s shocking how a city that has cultivated a unique and inspiring music scene can allow such a heinous legislation to pass. Shame on the city council and anybody who supports this ordinance.
5400. Elisa Ziegler | May 13, 2008 at 1:06 pm
This ordinance is ridiculous….what else can we do to stop it?
5401. sam | May 13, 2008 at 1:06 pm
please do not pass this ordinance for the sake of the people of chicago and all people who love and appreciate underground/local music scenes!
5402. Andrew | May 13, 2008 at 1:06 pm
As a future sound engineer, if this passes not only are the musicians going to suffer but the students who look to smaller venues for internships will be left in the dust. This bill can not pass. The future of Chicago culture is counting on it.
I oppose
5403. Paul Pace | May 13, 2008 at 1:06 pm
If it weren’t for Metro and Schubas I would probably still be single – don’t let this happen!
5404. Larry Keitz (aka Lars von Keitz) | May 13, 2008 at 1:06 pm
Please don’t kill live performance in Chicago! Please don’t pass this ordinance. All of the musicians and theater people will leave this town and you’ll be left with no local arts scene. If you want this to be a hick town laughing stock of the nation, go ahead, pass the ordinace. Think about it.
5405. ulic egan | May 13, 2008 at 1:07 pm
this is horrible. i am a musician and visited chicago 2 years ago and loved it there! went to see lots of blues and jazz gigs that simply don’t happen elsewhere. shame on those who make it harder for that to happen. killing their own culture, seems to be happening everywhere. in ireland too sadly. when will city councilors realize that by being greedy now and making short term money they will in the long run kill exactly what people love about a place and those people will go else where on their travels etc. nevermind the blatant infringements on the city of chicago people’s rights. good luck with the campaign.
5406. David Ormesher | May 13, 2008 at 1:07 pm
This is outrageous, and undermines one of the most important assets of the city of Chicago. We are world-renown for our theatre and culture. Do you think Steppenwolfe would have located in Chicago if ordinance were in place 30 years ago? Vote no!
5407. Sarah Kinsey | May 13, 2008 at 1:07 pm
This would kill the spirit of the arts scene in Chicago, that makes it such an exciting place. This is a terrible proposition, I hope Chicago aldermen will not let us down. VOTE NO!!!!
5408. Marc K. | May 13, 2008 at 1:07 pm
Chicago is lucky to have such a vibrant music scene. This is good for Chicago, even Chicago business. Why throw something away that other cities would be thrilled to have? There’s more money to be made by bringing in tourists and fairly taxing new venues than by simply sqeezing the ones we have now even harder. Chicago’s music scene is good for our residents, our cultural reputation, and our bottom line.
5409. Jamie Giffin | May 13, 2008 at 1:07 pm
The live music scene is Chicago is one of the key ingredients to what makes it so great. Without such a wealth of small venues, Chicago would undoubtedly LOSE what is most likely the principal reason that people in a 100mile radius flock to Chicago DAILY, fueling the economy.
Not only would this ordinance affect these small venues, but restaurants, retailers, and essentially ANY store in decently close proximity to these venues, as the constant flux of concert attendees helps keep people IN these Chicago stores.
5410. Sarah King | May 13, 2008 at 1:07 pm
Please don’t put a stop to one of the most unique and thriving cultural scenes in the United States. Chicago is a city known for it’s artistic heart and freedom, this ordinance would destroy us.
VOTE NO!
5411. Aubrey Skibicki | May 13, 2008 at 1:07 pm
I don’t even think I can formulate a coherent sentence expressing my displeasure with the very idea of this ordinance.
Chicago is a place rich in culture, and deeply embedded in the music scene. So much of my formative years were spent driving or riding the train into the city to see shows at places like The Fireside Bowl and Beat Kitchen.
Nothing pleases me more than the variety of venues and shows that this city has to offer. From intimate five person shows to large scale music festivals, our city thrives on our culture.
If this ordinance passes, part of my soul will die.
5412. Chicago Farmer | May 13, 2008 at 1:08 pm
I’ve been performing at small venues and clubs in Chicago for the past 6 years. I moved to Chicago to do this and this is what I do.
It’s not a hobby, it’s not for recreation, it’s my full time job and what I am passionate about. I am not famous but I have been able to survive and have some success. This survival and success was possible because of the local scene: The small venues, bars, coffee houses, clubs and the great folks who support them.
We already pay dues, we already pay taxes, we already pay over $4/gallon for gas, we already run our own businesses 8 days a week just to break even. Please don’t take away our voices and our passion of performing in the greatest city in world.
Cody(Chicago Farmer)
5413. Scott Behrens | May 13, 2008 at 1:08 pm
This ordinance will dimisinsh the artistic value of small local artisits. In addition the finiancial responsibilities this puts on local businesses will hurt our economy and the art that is expressed at these venues.
5414. Robin Yergovich | May 13, 2008 at 1:08 pm
I am absolutely appalled by this ordinance. If passed, the ordinance would prevent every young and aspiring musician from performing in Chicago. How will young musicians ever gain experience if they are forbidden to perform because they are not of age to apply for a license? Also, NO up-and-coming musician will have the money to pay the fees required to perform. One of the most wonderful things about living in Chicago is the versatility of the art and music scene. Please don’t deny young talent the opportunity to get themselves out there; It is cruel and unfair.
5415. Jon A | May 13, 2008 at 1:09 pm
This ordinance will significantly diminish the vitality of Chicago’s art scene. Please stop it!
5416. sara | May 13, 2008 at 1:09 pm
absolute diservice to chicago residents. if you want a white-washed strip mall of a city, go ahead. watch your independent market move on and take their money with them. this proposal does nothing but serve the greedy interests of the city and big-time promoters willing to play corrupt games and spits in the face of loyal chicago independents.
5417. Richard Lynch | May 13, 2008 at 1:09 pm
This is just insane!
Surely the city has something better to do than “protect” us from bad promoters with a law so badly-worded that nobody can figure out what it means…
5418. JS | May 13, 2008 at 1:09 pm
Add my name to the list.
5419. Joe Wigdahl | May 13, 2008 at 1:09 pm
I strongly oppose this ordinance.
5420. cathy | May 13, 2008 at 1:09 pm
THIS IS RIDICULOUS! If this passes, the amazing venues we all love will be forced to shut down and pretty soon Chicago wont have anything left in the city but the bean, Navy Pier, & the lake.
Everyone is just going to go to the suburbs for everything, what’s the point in going to chicago if you cant do anything without emptying out your live savings for one night in the city?!?!?!?!
I OPPOSE!!!
5421. Rebecca Smentek | May 13, 2008 at 1:09 pm
It’s so sad and disenchanting that in a country where the freedom of expression is a poignant part of our rights and way of life, that laws like this would even be considered. Whoever proposed them is a disgrace to the founding ideals of this country, as well as to the human spirit as a whole. I’d hate to see the city of Chicago have its soul and still beating heart ripped out by fascist gestures like these. Shame on you Chicago Council Committee for even toying with this idea!
5422. Anne Kim | May 13, 2008 at 1:10 pm
Why in the world would you push this ridiculous ordinance on the artists and musicians that have contributed to the city (not just aesthetically but economically, too).
In a nutshell, doesn’t the city of chicago have anything better to do, really? Let us keep our music.
5423. Lauren Van Kurin | May 13, 2008 at 1:10 pm
Please Please vote NO! I do not support this ordinance.
The Arts Community is asking you to not support this.
Thank You.
5424. Michelle Oh | May 13, 2008 at 1:10 pm
To our Aldermen- Vote no to this ordinance. Please do not settle for it at its current terms. This ordinance would be incredibly detrimental to independent contractors, small businesses, artists, and appreciators of the arts. Please listen to the voices of your districts and vote no to the promoters ordinance!
5425. Steve Jansen | May 13, 2008 at 1:10 pm
Since leaving Chicago in 2001, I’ve come back at least twice every year just to hear live music at small venues this ordinance would greatly affect. Please don’t allow this crippling measure to pass.
Steve Jansen
Music Columnist
Phoenix New Times
5426. Meredith Lyons | May 13, 2008 at 1:11 pm
If this passes it will destroy a lot of Chicago culture. Part of what makes Chicago different than a lot of other big cities is that people with a lot of vision and gumption are able to pull together and get creative and new things going here. Steppenwolf Theatre’s first production was in a church.
5427. Alexandra | May 13, 2008 at 1:11 pm
I STRONGLY oppose the Event Promoters Ordinance.
5428. Pam Huisman | May 13, 2008 at 1:11 pm
Don’t eliminate small music venues and entertainment in Chicago – it is what makes the city great!
Stop the madness!!
Peace,
Pam Huisman
5429. Joel M | May 13, 2008 at 1:11 pm
I oppose the proposed ordinance.
5430. Graham Everhart | May 13, 2008 at 1:12 pm
I’m livid! The passage of this ordinance will bring about the death of everything that makes Chicago great. Keep our city alive!
5431. Peter Cieply | May 13, 2008 at 1:12 pm
Please vote against this legislation, which could have such a detremental effect on our vibrant cultural scene.
5432. Lysa Denton | May 13, 2008 at 1:12 pm
This is a poorly written ordinance to try and collect quick revenue while undercutting the arts.
You must vote NO!
5433. Chris Clemente | May 13, 2008 at 1:12 pm
Bad bad idea. Stifling the arts with this idea will kill Chicago’s own culture. The city wants to host an Olympics? Gimme a break. Some of us actually make a living as a musicians. Chicago is one of the best cities in the world for LIVE music. If this goes through we’ll be one of the lamest cities around. ASCAP and the like are already shaking down establishments and old folks homes for big bucks. Their fee is a blanket fee that goes to big time pop artists and higher ups already cashing in. Add that to this new promoters ordinance idea…jeez. It’s sickening.
CC
5434. Stella O'Leary | May 13, 2008 at 1:12 pm
Vote NO!
5435. Christina Romano | May 13, 2008 at 1:12 pm
I strongly oppose the “Event Promoters” ordinance. It irks me that the city holds events like “Looptopia,” something that celebrates Chicago culture, and then it turns around and writes a law that would eliminate all of that wonderful culture. These people should be ashamed of themselves.
5436. Brian Fask | May 13, 2008 at 1:13 pm
As a supporter of independent music and performance as well as a former improv performer, I am strongly opposed to this law, especially since this is rapidly being put through without public discourse.
5437. Anne M. Dienethal | May 13, 2008 at 1:13 pm
I strongly oppose this ordinance.
5438. Suzie Moore | May 13, 2008 at 1:13 pm
i ditto everything that people have stated above. This is ridiculous and small minded. We live in a city that abounds with creative talent. Artists should have the right to perform without boundries.
5439. tim - lincoln sq | May 13, 2008 at 1:13 pm
the math on this one just doesn’t add up. no way could these venues survive these kinds of fees. it would simply take it from feasible to unfeasible – thus killing the whole element. please don’t let it happen, i JUST bought a house and i don’t want to have to move.
5440. Lisa Peterson | May 13, 2008 at 1:13 pm
As a fan of music and a friend of many bands trying to make it, this is outrageous. Save Chicago music!
5441. Tom Heslin | May 13, 2008 at 1:13 pm
Please put a stop to this ordinance. As a long time player on the Chicago music scene, I find it disturbing that someone would try to sneak something like this through. I depend on the extra income I make playing out every weekend to support myself and my family. I can’t afford to have my opportunities or pay reduced due to something as petty as this.
5442. Gus Capone | May 13, 2008 at 1:14 pm
In a city so culturally attached to music, art, self-reliance, entrepreneurship, and individuality this seems like a great way to loose any standing or merit when it comes to culture relevance on an international scale. This would probably the single least wise thing to do in a city that wants, so desperately, to be recognized as a vibrant and exciting destination. Mayor Daley would be ill advised to not pull this idea from the table should all his efforts to garner, or at least maintain, any respect and consideration for this city’s candidacy to host events such as the Olympics. To take the rich history of this great city and deaden it into fading memories of a forgone era, now replaced with a tract of land and a lake front that simply rings the echoes of a once deafening brilliance would not only be a loss to it’s residents but also the rest of society.
A city without it’s artists is just a collection of institutions without a passion.
This ordinance would do nothing but pull the rug out from under any smaller, growing, or upstart idea that needs time to grow and flourish. Without the opportunity to do so, we would have none of the larger institutions that would be now be exempt from this legislation. This would be an assault on the future of this city measured the fees collected by it’s officials.
5443. Eric Bashirian | May 13, 2008 at 1:14 pm
Attending venues such as Empty Bottle, Scubas, Metro and Subterrenean amongst others has been a huge part of my life and experience in Chicago. Passing this ordinance would seem to harm the ability of these venues to bring in the world class musical acts that come to Chicago because they know of its passion about music. Please do not pass this ordinance!
5444. Mallory Sohmer | May 13, 2008 at 1:14 pm
Please do not pass this ordinance.
5445. Emmett Kelly | May 13, 2008 at 1:14 pm
taking away gigs in chicago would mean that this great community of musicians and artists would be broken apart. all that is good here would leave…this city would have virtually nothing left.
5446. Tina Melone | May 13, 2008 at 1:14 pm
Chicago has such a strong music scene; more now than ever….this is going to be disasterous.
5447. James Braglia | May 13, 2008 at 1:15 pm
As a Chicago artist I stand against this ordinance. 32 year living in Chicago, the most beautiful thing about our city is the art, community and culture – it’s something that can’t be planted it must be FREE to grow.
I vote against the promoter’s ordinance.
5448. James Sanden | May 13, 2008 at 1:15 pm
This is overly restrictive and unnecessary. Please do not pass this law.
5449. Carey Ott | May 13, 2008 at 1:15 pm
This is one of the many reasons I moved away from Chicago after living there for more than 10 years! Lousy, corrupt city / state government. Nickel and diming citizens with excessive parking tickets, licensing fees, tolls and taxes is bad enough, but now trying to steal more money and opportunity from small venues and artists is an absolute OUTRAGE! Shame on you city legislators. Do your job more effectively with a bit of integrity why don’t ya! Why do you think the CTA is broke?? Business as usual. The Daley family business model. This thing should be laughed out of city hall, along with Dick Daley.
5450. Joyce Dominick | May 13, 2008 at 1:15 pm
Please keep it so small groups can perform in small places and share what they got.
5451. Heather J. Svoboda | May 13, 2008 at 1:16 pm
This ordinance would severely limit the start-ups and small theatrical and musical groups that lead independent promotions across the city. Please listen to your constituents who are begging you not to pass this hurtful, anti-art initiative. Thank you.
5452. Gwendolynn Gonwa | May 13, 2008 at 1:16 pm
This is the most discouraging thing I’ve heard in a long time. Arts keeps getting the short end of the stick again and again. Art is a way to express ourselves, inspire others, and leave the stress of the working world behind, even if its just for the hour and a half we are at that show. For that hour and a half we can slip into a new world and leave our worries behind, a world in which the musician, actor, or dancer takes us. People need that kind of release and inspiration.
As a former member of a small not-for-profit dance company, funding for our shows was already a huge problem. Grants and funds are few and far between.
This would make it harder for companies, theatre groups and bands like that to survive. Many would just give up. Sure, for large companies and famous bands, this would be a possible hurtle to jump, but for many, it wouldnt. Part of what makes Chicago’s art scene so special is the variety, and this was exactly why I moved here from Milwaukee.
I beg you, please do not do this.
5453. Isaiah Spencer III | May 13, 2008 at 1:16 pm
This is a blatant slap in the face, to all the artist and musicians.
This is the reason that Chicago musicians and artist abandon Chicago and move to places like NYC, San Fransisco, and Europe.
Once again this is another political attempt to control the artist as well as the music scene, as if there weren’t enough organizations out there doing so.
We as musicians and artists must stick together to prevent these types of ordinances as well as to prevent the organizations from being allowed to control and manipulate artist musicians and administrators.
5454. JDIGGA | May 13, 2008 at 1:17 pm
this is absolutley absurd how the city is trying to stop the very thing that makes chicago a world class city…the music and the arts is what this city is without them we would be overlooked as a epicenter of culture and musical progression in the midwest.
a promoters life isnt easy and we sure do not need to be paying up to $2000 just to spread an idea of music and expression to our own people… we do it for the love and support of what we are…
artists,musicians,and the people that promote them..
5455. Eliel Royster | May 13, 2008 at 1:17 pm
This is stupid. I’m contacting my cousin who is an alderman and see if he will vote no on this issue.
I work in the music scene in the city and this will hurt my pockets severely
But I guess Daley’s corruption trial has to be paid for somehow.
5456. Matt Weir | May 13, 2008 at 1:17 pm
I choose to live in Chicago because of the culture that this ordinance would wipe out. Please vote no.
5457. Susie | May 13, 2008 at 1:17 pm
This is a revolting assault against the artists of this city and the people who patronize the arts in small venues. My band’s primary habitat is the small club. Our promotion outlet is the acoustic open mic. To lose to this ordinance, is devastating and WE MUST NOT LET IT HAPPEN!
5458. patrick | May 13, 2008 at 1:17 pm
i cant believe this even has the possibility of being passed. this is just another example of the corrupt politics of Chicago. First the smoking ban, and the increasing taxes on cigarettes, but now the city is trying to handcuff one of the great art forms that has helped it become a city recognized worldwide for its thriving art, music, and theater scenes . Damn the man, save the metro!
5459. erin o'neal | May 13, 2008 at 1:17 pm
this law is completely unnecessary and will hinder independent art in chicago to a completely unacceptable level.
5460. Chris Moan | May 13, 2008 at 1:17 pm
This ordinance is an absurd attempt to curb concert malpractice and gain “petty” cash for a city council that continually fails at keeping Chicago’s best interests in mind. It has the potential to kill creative music, theatre and subsequently the very fabric of what has become culture in our city. Shame on anyone who ever thought this was a good idea. The fact that someone is trying to pass this quickly and quietly–or seemingly so–is preposterous. If anyone can get down there Wed. at 10am, please do.
5461. Isaiah Spencer III | May 13, 2008 at 1:17 pm
This is a blatant slap in the face, to all the artist and musicians.
This is the reason that Chicago musicians and artist abandon Chicago and move to places like NYC, San Fransisco, and Europe.
Once again this is another political attempt to control the artist as well as the music scene, as if there weren’t enough organizations out there doing so.
We as musicians and artists must stick together to prevent these types of ordinances as well as to prevent the organizations from being allowed to control and manipulate artist musicians and administrators.
Let’s not give them the power, let’s keep it in our own hands.
5462. liveshowfan | May 13, 2008 at 1:18 pm
This is total bs! Stop the ordinance!
5463. Amelia Crabtree | May 13, 2008 at 1:18 pm
NO, please.
5464. Paul Golm | May 13, 2008 at 1:18 pm
As a michigan resident who frequently visits Chicago for shows at small venues, I believe that this ordinance will only hurt the music scene in Chicago that I truly love. It’s passing will eliminate all business that my friends and me bring to Chicago.
5465. Evan Williams | May 13, 2008 at 1:18 pm
The arts are an integral part of Chicago life and culture. This ordinance will hurt the jazz, and other independent music venues of the city of Chicago. Inhibiting these venues will ultimately hurt the city of Chicago decreasing tourism and revenues gathered from these venues.
5466. Ashley Brooks | May 13, 2008 at 1:19 pm
I think that this ordinance is absolutely obserd! I have put on shows before and it is hard enough to get enough people to come to pay the bands let alone to pay some insane promotor’s fees on top of that!
I don’t live in chicago, i live in a small town outside of Champaign but i make lots of trips to Chicago every year to see shows, and not huge areana shows, but small shows at Metro, various other places. And i know i am not the only person who travels to Chicago to see the “local” bands play.
Please do not enforce this, it is only going to stiffle the up and coming bands that play in Chicago everyday! And lets face fact here if there are no small places to play then bands do not get seen and the music industry goes bye bye, so many of the greatest bands have come out of Chicago and you want to stop that?
I think that the city council needs to SERIOUSLY re-think what you are trying to pass here!!! Its only goin to hurt Chicago!
5467. Natalia | May 13, 2008 at 1:19 pm
I think its pretty clear that this action represents systemized oppression and a violation of civil rights. It’s an ageist and classist policy similar to the practice of charging minorities to vote.
A. not only do young people make up the majority of the “music scene” but they are the ones least able to afford these charges
B. its a gross assumption and prejudice to believe that all gatherings of young persons of this nature will necessarily cause destruction based on a few that have
C. what you might not see is that, not only does this take a swing at the independent scene, but it helps the rich in the music industry by removing competition. (venues of 500+ are not charged, and if it were a smaller venue, it would be affordable to a mogul representing an artist who has already achieved “fame”)
besides the fact that you would be destroying the rich cultural history that chicago has… but thats been said
-Natalia Washington
Chicago, IL
5468. Algren | May 13, 2008 at 1:19 pm
Artists need the freedom to share their abilities with the public. Restricting our ability to create and perform will only stifle the strong community we have. Chicago has more musicians than Seattle and Austin combined and not everyone can play at the Allstate Arena. Small venues and house parties are a great way to bring together people with similar interests and take an active role in our city’s artistic scene. Restricting our ability to gather in this way will only hurt our community. Please don’t pass this ordinance.
5469. James V. Suggs | May 13, 2008 at 1:19 pm
Alderman Tunney and Chicago City Council:
I urge you to vote AGAINST the proposed “promoter ordinance.” This would effectively kill one of the great things about Chicago – the variety of live music/comedy/theater performances available to its people. In my ward (and yours, Alderman Tunney) alone, there are the Metro, the Vic, the Cubby Bear and Lakeview Theater (with Schuba’s just outside its boundaries). Many shows at these venues would disappear, as they would not be profitable under the bizzare and byzantine requirements of the ordinance.
The E2 disaster was undoubtedly a tragedy – but it was enabled by lax enforcement of existing ordinances against promoters who were already sanctioned by the government. Don’t compound this tragedy by punishing the upstanding venue owners, promoters, performers, and (above all) citizens who rely on live local performances.
James V. Suggs
East Lakeview, Chicago.
5470. Mike Madgiak | May 13, 2008 at 1:19 pm
While I understand the impetus behind this ordinance, I think that it is poorly carried out. I think that the problem that they are trying to fix has more to do with the fire code and less to do with promoters and squashing small venues. If the fire code was kept up to date and routinely enforced then this would prevent disasters like they are trying to quell. In all honesty, sports bars in Wrigleyville and Lincoln Park would likely be the scene of the next catastrophe because of how many people they pack into asmall venue with insufficient exits.
5471. Crystal Savage | May 13, 2008 at 1:19 pm
I’m against this ordinance. If Daley wants Chicago to continue being one of the best cities in the United States then he needs to make sure it’s still an exciting place to visit. I vote no.
5472. John Haugen | May 13, 2008 at 1:19 pm
This bill is unnecessary and poorly vetted and will make Chicago a stifling atmosphere in which to create music. TO THE COUNCIL: PLEASE VOTE AGAINST THIS BILL FOR THE SAKE OF THE COLLECTIVE MUSICAL CREATIVITY OF CHICAGO.
5473. Lisa Klobuchar | May 13, 2008 at 1:19 pm
This ordinance is completely bewildering. I know many people who produced and perform in small productions around the city, Many of them are young, just beginning in their performance careers, and use the many small venues to hone their crafts and build up their performance experiences. They produce the shows on their own, almost always with their own money, and are happy if the shows break even. To place the burden of licensing and insurance fees on such productions would effectively kill what is essentially a vibrant, do-it-yourself cultural education system in this city. It could bring an end to a big part of what makes this city a major center of comedy and small theater in the United States and a proving ground for many performers who have become major stars in comedy, but also in other performing arts. Please, please vote NO on this ordinance.
5474. Georgianna Dorsey | May 13, 2008 at 1:19 pm
Why punish the little guy who struggles to make a living and why prevent people who would like to attend the small group of musician and/or plays? This proposal seems out of line to me. Please don’t consider it.
5475. Elizabeth G. Lent | May 13, 2008 at 1:19 pm
How thoughtless and shortsighted. Is anyone awake in the City Council?
5476. John O | May 13, 2008 at 1:20 pm
Taking out small promoters??? How will the independent artists share their art? Ridiculous….
Chicago should embrace art, not take it away.
5477. HWard | May 13, 2008 at 1:20 pm
I strongly oppose this ordinance.
5478. Heather | May 13, 2008 at 1:20 pm
Keep Chicago GREAT! Don’t burden our thriving and unique music and art communities with this unnecessary ordinance.
5479. Allison Miller | May 13, 2008 at 1:20 pm
This is ridiculous and must be stopped.
5480. Bianca Cappetta | May 13, 2008 at 1:21 pm
As a lover of the arts in Chicago i’m baffeled as to why a city so rich in historic music and performance art would want to do such a thing. It’s very sad and this would have people not being able to enjoy the little art that they do have in thier community.
Give peace a chance Chicago!
5481. Chris Aguilar | May 13, 2008 at 1:21 pm
Please do not pass this ordinance! Going to shows is a huge part of my life. I also vote against the promoter’s ordinance.
5482. kristin | May 13, 2008 at 1:21 pm
I am opposed to this ordinance.
5483. Frank Heiberger | May 13, 2008 at 1:21 pm
How many things are they going to ban in this city? Doesn’t the Council have real work to do? If this all they can think of to do, maybe we need all new members. I’ll be blogging this on MySpace.
5484. Corrie Grano | May 13, 2008 at 1:21 pm
There is absolutely no reason why small venues should have to jump through hoops like this. They provide a means for Chicago bands to play their music, and countless “famous” bands have had their start this way. If not for places like the Metro, Chicago musicians would have no outlet to let others hear their music. This is absolutely crazy. It is a chokehold on small business and that is exactly what this country does not need right now. Long Live Chicago Music!
5485. Bill Britt | May 13, 2008 at 1:21 pm
No smoking? Fine (not happy about it, but I understand). No Foi Gras (No problem–I eat chopped liver anyway). But this is going too far. Enough is enough. Stomp this out like the cops in 68 stomped on the hippies. C’mon! You’re Chicago, grow a pair!!!
5486. JoEllen B. Bunch | May 13, 2008 at 1:21 pm
As a frequent visitor to the city particularly to attend various venues to see the up and coming musical artists in Chicago, it seems this ordinance would take away the main reason I and many of my friends come to the city. I hope some reasonable people on the city council rethink this one!
5487. Marcus Magee | May 13, 2008 at 1:22 pm
Chicago is known for it’s inspirational local music and entertainment scene. It’s what makes Chicago such a great, yet humble city to live in. These local artists are exactly what moves people to come visit this great city. Please do not let greed or any other selfish motive compromise our city’s identity.
5488. Robert Williams | May 13, 2008 at 1:22 pm
Please add my name to the petition against this ridiculous ordinance. For a city that wants the Olympics, it seems rather foolish to reduce its number of entertainment venues.
Robert Williams
5489. Holly Aitchison | May 13, 2008 at 1:22 pm
This is horrible! What a way to prevent up and coming artists from ever being heard, or being able to play their music live! There are other ways for the city to make money, and they shouldn’t punish musicians so they can do so!
5490. Michael Tapson | May 13, 2008 at 1:22 pm
Don’t let this happen!
5491. Kyle Ryan | May 13, 2008 at 1:22 pm
This is madness.
5492. Susanna Bitters | May 13, 2008 at 1:22 pm
a terrible idea.
5493. Kelly Wey | May 13, 2008 at 1:23 pm
Please do not consider this proposal! Chicago needs independent promoters!!!
5494. Myrrick Liontonia | May 13, 2008 at 1:23 pm
The music scene in Chicago is already in trouble, too many venues that aren’t just focused on paying one lame DJ have shut down or converted to cater to a bunch of wannabe Paris Hiltons. This town once know for bringing the music of the common and working man will be reduced to being a cesspool for the young and tastless…..I’m only 22 and I feel that way. It should be the clubs that have a history of rowdiness that should pay……at least our politicians wasted millions of dollars on Millennium park that only caters to snooty already wealthy acts. Now we really are the home of the blues……the can’t-sonically-liberate-your-soul-blues!
5495. Mindy Y | May 13, 2008 at 1:23 pm
As an avid theatre/concert goer here in the city, this ordinance is a complete disappointment. I’m shocked that this wonderful city’s city council would agree to such a terrible conditions.
Let’s hope we win this one.
5496. rosa | May 13, 2008 at 1:23 pm
this is ridiculous!! chicago is rooted is grassroots arts and performance and is well known for this cutting edge work! please let the arts continue to reside in chicago and let’s cultivate this as a another form of expression, especially for young people!
5497. William Flachsbart | May 13, 2008 at 1:24 pm
This ordinance will kill the local Chicago music and small theater scene. This is a vibrant and crucial part of the joy of living in Chicago. Please vote against it.
5498. Eric W | May 13, 2008 at 1:24 pm
this is ridiculous, they should cut the fat from the toll systems and blagojevic’s spending $76000 on day trips to Springfield. But hey why not stifle our creativity instead
5499. John | May 13, 2008 at 1:24 pm
This ordinance is just another way for the city to make more money off the nightlife industry. They dont care about the music, arts and nightclubs, they just want money. This is ridiculous and will only hurt the city in the long run. No wonder Chicago is a laughing stock for the music and nightlife compared to other cities such as LA, NY, Miami, Las Vegas and Atlanta.
5500. Georgianna Dorsey | May 13, 2008 at 1:24 pm
This is a senseless option. Why punish the small guy who struggles to make a living and also the people who wish to attend the small places? 499 as opposed to 500+? This should not be passed.
5501. Meghan | May 13, 2008 at 1:25 pm
As a performing artist in Chicago, I oppose this ordinance because it would crush the innovative culture of Chicago’s art scene. Innovation happens on a small scale in the smaller venues, before reaching the main stream entertainment industry. The fees you are proposing would destroy Chicago culture at it’s source, where artists experiment and hone their craft. Please vote against the Event Promoters Ordinance.
Meghan Strell
5502. Dan Moulder | May 13, 2008 at 1:25 pm
As a talent buyer for a mid-size venues, these event promoters are integral to the survival of the Chicago music scene. The draconian requirements this license imposes will turn the Chicago music scene into a bland, barren wasteland. DO NOT LET THIS ORDINANCE PASS!!!!
5503. E. Gao | May 13, 2008 at 1:25 pm
Please do not pass this ordinance.
5504. Kimi Duenas | May 13, 2008 at 1:25 pm
The music scene in Chicago is thriving more today than it has been in years. It is a scene that is very much alive and has some of the most passionate enthusiasts. To pass this ordinance would not only be detrimental to the fans such as myself, but would be taking money away from a tax spiking city that already seems to need it so badly.
5505. Jo Ellen | May 13, 2008 at 1:25 pm
My friend from Chicago told me about this and I find it absaloutley redicoulous.
Being from England I don’t attend shows in Chicago but from what I’ve heard like Manchester over in England which is were I go to shows Chicago has a big music scene full of thriving talents and artists that use the smaller clubs to get their name out to people who otherwise may never have heard of them. Small bands like these really can’t afford to this type of money just to play one show ,I know i’d be mad if what you’re doing over here happened in Manchester it’d ruin the culture and you’d loose a lot of tourists as I know people who’ve gone over to Chicago instead of other places in America just because you have such a thriving culture.Please don’t pass this ordienece as I’d hate to see such a thriving culturle place suffer
and plus I’m gonna come their next year for a few shows and I seriously wouldn’t want to fly over just to find out that there was nothing on.
5506. keith anderson | May 13, 2008 at 1:26 pm
i am against this ordinance in the strongest way possible. why kill culture in chicago. please please please bury this one in the dirt. it will hurt chicagos lively culture
5507. Lawrence Ballenger | May 13, 2008 at 1:26 pm
As someone who often drives 3 hours to Chicago to see these bands because our city doesn’t have nearly the flourishing musical community it would be shame to see another city loose such blossoming acts as those that are alive and well in Chicago right now. The nurturing of these bands is one my primary reasons for coming to the city of Chicago and a primary factor in considering to make it my place of residence in the future. Passing an ordinance like this would change my entire perspective of the city and would probably very rarely see my presence any longer as I will be forced to find other areas to meet my musical interests.
5508. Meredith Adams-Smart | May 13, 2008 at 1:26 pm
This Ordinance would greatly alter the creative scene in Chicago with no benefit to its citizens. Vote No!
5509. Amanda Wolff | May 13, 2008 at 1:27 pm
As a Chicago native, I have always marveled at and bragged about the thriving music and theatre scene here. It is part of what separates Chicago from other places, and makes Chicago a great place to live or visit, whether as an artist or a patron of the arts. The amount and diversity of music & theatre happenings here is something to be proud of, and something the City should continue to breathe life into, not to stifle and try to destroy what so many years have built up until now. This would be a devastating mistake and a powerful blow to the flavor of or wonderfully unique city.
5510. Mike Pawula | May 13, 2008 at 1:27 pm
As a member of a band who has come up on the Chicago scene I think that this is an outrage. If this ordinance was in place 15 years ago I would have quit long ago. Write your alderman, it’s easy, do it here http://www.chicityclerk.com/citycouncil/alderman/find.html. With rising fuel costs this could kill Chicago music.
Mike Pawula
The Tossers
5511. Evan Williams | May 13, 2008 at 1:27 pm
The arts are an integral art of life and culture in Chicago. The Jazz and other independent music scenes are quite popular in the city of Chicago as they are in New York and other big cities. To inhibit these independent venues would be an attack on music and music culture. Music Events nor the promotion of such events do nothing to harm the city. If this ordinance is passed and hurts the music scene, then it will hurt the city in regards to culture and music related tourism and revenue.
5512. Ben Lundquist | May 13, 2008 at 1:27 pm
If this gets passed, I’m moving.
5513. Brien F | May 13, 2008 at 1:27 pm
This is a bad idea. If you need money, go back to charging old people to use the CTA.
5514. Grant Woodcutter | May 13, 2008 at 1:28 pm
I can’t believe our elected officials are even considering this abomination. What are they thinking?
5515. Loree Washington | May 13, 2008 at 1:28 pm
This compliments #5298
Becoming (emulating) a mini Manhattan was scary enough.
Chicago should strive to maintain it’s unique culture= Identity. It saddens me that such bill even exists; it should have never left the committee!
It is very clear that our City is not “Pro Residents”, but about $$ and politics. The more I think about the Ordinance, I begin to ponder the Olympics “nomination” as a front. This is actually a smart move for the City to create an unleveled playing field before the game starts. This will permit “preferred Vendors/Contractors” to profit from the 2016 Olympics.
Shame on the City!!!
5516. Michael Hartman | May 13, 2008 at 1:28 pm
This ordinance sucks
5517. Carrie | May 13, 2008 at 1:28 pm
As a strong supporter of the local Chicago scene, I’m afraid an ordinance like this would prevent the emergence of new talent. Thanks for taking the time to stop an unnecessary ordinance.
5518. Caitlin McCown | May 13, 2008 at 1:28 pm
This ordinance would put me out of a lot of work. The small theatre venues here and the chance for small independent theaters to thrive is why I moved here in the first place. I think this will really harm the city both economically and culturally.
5519. Justin Tvedt | May 13, 2008 at 1:29 pm
Save Chicago music!
5520. Norm MadDawg Siegel | May 13, 2008 at 1:29 pm
This is the most malicious and greedy ordinence. It is manipulative and controlling, closing out most individual and independent promoters and musicians. Chicago is the home of the blues, a mecca for jazz and a leader in singer/songwriter based music. It would be a shame to kill this culture of art and creation. Vote this ordinence down!!!
5521. Preston | May 13, 2008 at 1:29 pm
Ah, yes. Another example of Chicago greed at its best.
When will it end?
Greedy Bastards, all.
When will we finally have someone working for this city with the strength and integrity to say “NO” to stepping on the necks of the little guys?
Why vote at all?
Why not just get a gun, drive around to every artistic venue in Chicago and rob them blind?
Saves time.
5522. Shahin Moradian | May 13, 2008 at 1:29 pm
I find this act completely unacceptable, both as a musician and as a citizen of Chicago. If it goes into effect I will strongly consider moving.
5523. Jared Miller | May 13, 2008 at 1:29 pm
This is disgusting. Although I was not living in Chicago during the time of the E2 tragedy, from what I can tell it was a matter of club owners and party promoters trying to circumvent the current laws, and ending up costing 21 human lives for their neglect.
It was tragic, and my heart goes out to all those involved. But it was the case of a convicted felon operating outside of the current laws, and in the case of the “Ladies’ Night” parties that resulted in deadly stampedes, a party promoter operating dangerously trying desperately to fly under the radar before getting caught.
It reprehensible to punish a thriving music community for the actions of club owners operating illegally and causing deaths. Perhaps action by the city, examining E2′s lack of a liquor license and ownership of a club by a convicted felon, however respectable he was in the Chicago community. It is illogical to punish law-abiding owners for the actions of those who operated illegally.
This law will devastate Chicago’s music scene, incidentally the main reason I enjoy this city. It will not only make life difficult and near impossible for independent promoters; it will drain talent from places like the Metro, Schuba’s and others that thrive on this talent, and leave these places with no reason for people to patronize them. Only larger acts will play in Chicago, and the music scene here will wither as the City considers only the bottom line, economically speaking.
I am sick of people who know very little about the music industry (compared to those actively participating in it) having the biggest stake in deciding its future. The sphere of creative production is no place for a politician or a businessman to call themselves king; it is an instrument that brings culture, joy, and life to the public that ought to be aided by government interactions. Do not pass this legislation.
The music industry has enough trouble with the business aspect diminishing its creative capabilities. Does the City of Chicago really want to be the final nail in the coffin?
Jared Miller
5524. max raimi | May 13, 2008 at 1:29 pm
If the city councilmen wish to live in Ogden, Utah, nobody is stopping them. But this is Chicago, and to gut our cultural life with this idiotic ordinance would be criminal.
5525. Kirk Williamson | May 13, 2008 at 1:29 pm
Passing this ordinance would strip the city of Chicago of its cultural diversity and jeopardize its standing as a true world city. DON’T KILL CHICAGO!!!
Kirk Williamson
Managing Editor – Nightspots Magazine
5526. Jennifer Santander | May 13, 2008 at 1:29 pm
I feel as if this would lower musical interest throughout Chicago and ultimately stop the creative flow that this city has produced. This is certainly not the way to go.
5527. Marvin | May 13, 2008 at 1:30 pm
To Whom Considers to vote “Yes”
You will be sending a message to the world that Chicago’s vibrant music and art scene will deteriorate. Chicago is not reserved only for mainstream art. Half of the “Mainstream” acts started small. Therefore, this ordinance will dampen Chicago’s art image.
Plus, if money is the issue, consider the potential for lost revenue from lack of shows.
Marvin
5528. Damian Fazio | May 13, 2008 at 1:30 pm
A promoter’s ordinance would only mean the stifling of independent artists and writers who cannot afford to pay fees for performances, and is obscene! Artists of all stripes deserve the right to perform in public venues without government restrictions.
5529. Jon Sawyer | May 13, 2008 at 1:30 pm
Bad law. Bad bad law. Chicago’s cultural scene is vibrant because of the small venues. Do not pass this law.
5530. Wendy Vargas | May 13, 2008 at 1:30 pm
Although this ordinance is largely understood to affect musicians and party promoters, I believe it may also have undue effect on other types of performance, including theater and spoken word events. At a time when neighborhoods are becoming increasingly fractured, I believe in the power of performance to bring communities together, to create an entertaining forum from which to raise discussion, share concerns, and build common ground. We have seen this happen time and time again, in ways that are positive and affirming for diverse Chicago Latinos. We will be unable to offer free community programs that promote safety and peace. I can’t imagine the impact this will have on smaller companies struggling to present performance in their neighborhoods.
Chicago is well known for a performance arts culture that attracts both residents and tourists, and 4-157 threatens to undermine one of our most vibrant cultural resources. Please vote against this ordinance
5531. Rocco Labriola | May 13, 2008 at 1:30 pm
Stop the bill.
Vote in every election.
5532. Stephanie | May 13, 2008 at 1:31 pm
Chicago’s independent music scene is what sets it aside from the other cities, like LA and Cleveland, that are dominated by one major promoter. Do not let this happen! I understand the need to protection and safety, but the fees are astronomical. There needs to be a public forum on this with panels by independent promoters, the police and fire departments, and the festival promoters, such as the chamber of commerce in each neighborhood.
5533. Billy Sheahan | May 13, 2008 at 1:31 pm
I’m completely against this new ordinance. I can’t imagine what the city is thinking. Sounds completely suspicious.
5534. Matt Micou | May 13, 2008 at 1:31 pm
Chicago has one of the most vibrant arts communities I have ever seen. This ordinance would effectively kill that.
5535. Jessi Black | May 13, 2008 at 1:31 pm
I’m not even from Chicago, and I’m outraged. I travel to Chicago for shows at small venues. So do a lot of people I know. Chicago is the big stop for lots of Midwestern tours, plus it leads to smaller stops regionally, creating greater accessibility for music/theater/etc. lovers throughout the Midwest. Creating barriers to this kind of growth is criminal. They cannot pass this ordinance.
5536. Stephanie Kuehnert | May 13, 2008 at 1:31 pm
As a Chicago artist and music lover, I see this as an outrageous attack on our thriving local scene. This must not be allowed to pass. It would kill Chicago arts as we know it.
5537. E.Williams | May 13, 2008 at 1:32 pm
Support your local artists. The music industry has suffered enough.
Please SAVE CHICAGO MUSIC!
5538. Marybeth | May 13, 2008 at 1:32 pm
This is crazy and must be stopped! Chicago wouldn’t be the same if this ordinance takes effect. Leave Chicago’s culture alone.
5539. Pete | May 13, 2008 at 1:32 pm
Are we trying to hamper the diffusion of culture in our fair city?
5540. Jennifer Jones | May 13, 2008 at 1:33 pm
This proposed ordinance is ridiculous and another example of the lack of priority and appreciation for the arts. What happened to free speech and the right to free expression? This law would effectively stamp that out in the music community by ensuring only those who can ~afford~ to express themselves would have the right to do so. PLEASE VOTE AGAINST THIS ORDINANCE
5541. Joel | May 13, 2008 at 1:33 pm
Please don’t pass this law. Is this worth stifling Chicago’s legendary Arts scene? As elected officials, please stop, take a breath, and work with the Music Community on this to ensure this is done the right way. Why the rush?
5542. Evan Hand | May 13, 2008 at 1:33 pm
As a local musician, the Chicago music scene is already far too political. More laws will just take even more money away from the musicians and artists….. Just add more parking meters if you guys need money.
5543. Bridget Conway | May 13, 2008 at 1:33 pm
One of the best things about Chicago is the culture! That includes all the small venues!!! Do not let us loose this!
5544. wanderingjewess | May 13, 2008 at 1:33 pm
This would initiate the end of Chicago as a city of diverse and indepedent music/theater performance as we know it. It reminds me of the line from the movie Almost Famous, when Lester Bangs (Phillip Seymour Hoffmann) says: “They’re going to kill everything we love about music.”
Marla Seidell
http://wanderingjewess.wordpress.com
5545. Nicole Engbretson | May 13, 2008 at 1:33 pm
This is absolutely ridiculous. As an amateur musician who enjoys fellow amateurs as well as professionals, I am appalled that this ordinance is inhibiting the wonderful culture of Chicago.
5546. Naomi Ashley | May 13, 2008 at 1:34 pm
This ordinance is outrageous! Please for the sake of Chicago music – do not let this happen.
5547. dhudnall | May 13, 2008 at 1:34 pm
This is an appalling ordinance for artists and arts lovers alike. People will move away.
5548. Matthew Blaschka | May 13, 2008 at 1:34 pm
By doing this, you will be ruining on of Chicago’s best and fastest growing indrustries. You will run out the small companies as welll as keep new and creative people from from getting their start here by sending them elsewhere to avoid the high cost. People of the entertainment industry will head to other cities taking prescious business and money from our city!!
5549. Justin Ferranti | May 13, 2008 at 1:34 pm
I moved to Chicago because of the underground music. This is still my 1st year here. If this ordinance passes, I may just move and go support bacteria somewhere. It IS the only culture some people have. In all seriousness, this ordinance is unnecessary.
5550. Kelli Naughton | May 13, 2008 at 1:35 pm
This will kill the greatest thing about Chicago, its culture. This is the most outrageous thing I’ve heard in some time. STOP THE ORDINANCE!!!!!!!!!!!
5551. Ellen Willett | May 13, 2008 at 1:35 pm
Isn’t storefront performance what Chicago is known for?
5552. Harry Kagan | May 13, 2008 at 1:35 pm
This is horrifying for young musicians who have for years relied on their city’s wealth of accessible venues to make their music heard. Chicago needs to continue embracing expression, not suppression.
5553. Rich Kvasnicka | May 13, 2008 at 1:35 pm
This is completly unnecessary. If this is actually put into law it will be the end of the local music scene. This is a HUGE mistake by the city of Chicago. PLEASE do not allow this ordinace to go through.
5554. Sam Grimes | May 13, 2008 at 1:35 pm
THis is the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard. If this gets passed chicago is going to loose a major sense of appeal and i know that i will be moving.
5555. Ginell Narvaiz | May 13, 2008 at 1:36 pm
This can’t really go through. I would wreck the idea that Chicago is the place to be for independent music/theater. What happened to freedom of speech?
5556. Steven Gillis | May 13, 2008 at 1:36 pm
this is a perfect example of government gone awry. I would think that policies would be implemented to make it easier for smaller venues and artist’s to thrive. let’s make the city more attractive to tourists, people and business’ considering a move here.
5557. Jordan Litwin | May 13, 2008 at 1:36 pm
I really hope this ordinance fails!
5558. DT | May 13, 2008 at 1:36 pm
With a city as culturally diverse as Chicago, the music to represent that diversity is a necessity. The music tells the story of blues, jazz and so many other music types you may find in a bar, on the street, on the subway tracks – wherever! There are dreams being made and expressed with music and this ordinance is ridiculous to even spend time on. Let the legislators worry about getting the guns and violence off the streets, not the music that gives people a fantastic outlet of expression & entertainment. This type of musical freedom needs to remain a part of Chicago’s culture.
5559. Amy Robinson | May 13, 2008 at 1:36 pm
Chicago is a vibrant, cultural city and will flounder with the passage of this ordinance. I am opposed.
5560. Ben Billington | May 13, 2008 at 1:37 pm
As an employee of the music/arts space AV-aerie which was just handed a citation for our lack of a PPA license on Friday evening….I am fully against this ordinance. We are a non-profit, donation only space that has been providing Chicago’s community with performances and art for the last 7 years. This ordinance will not only destroy music venues, but the people volunteering their time to create events important to our communities.
5561. Tim Whicker | May 13, 2008 at 1:37 pm
I’m sorry, but this is absolutely ridiculous. Chicago is KNOWN for their variety of culture. It’s what makes us unique, but this bill will do nothing but kill it. I can’t see why anyone would want that. It’s crazy.
5562. scott richardson | May 13, 2008 at 1:37 pm
Another pathetic, poorly thought-out blanket ordinance that will do more damage than good. Defeat it!
5563. Jonathan Scott | May 13, 2008 at 1:37 pm
Profit margins are small enough for event promoters who take the risk on whether or not an audience will show up for their event without driving the price of doing business up even higher.
Chicago music is such an integral part of our culture it is a shame to see the amount of shows reduced by governmental demands on more insurance.
E2 was a clear case of greed and negligence and should not reflect on the hundreds of well run shows that happen every year.
Please don’t drive more entertainment out of Chicago!
5564. Eric W. | May 13, 2008 at 1:37 pm
The ordnance as drafted appears to place unfair burdens on smaller, but legitimate, promoters and independent artists trying to establish their foothold in the community. I believe it will diminish Chicago’s standing as one of the great live music and live theater cities in the US. I implore the city council to reconsider it.
5565. Michael | May 13, 2008 at 1:37 pm
When are we not going to go down the tubes on purpose? What is up with creating legislation like this?
And being Chicago, if it doesn’t pass, Daley will just bulldoze the theaters in the middle of the night, just like Meigs.
It saddens me how much of a joke that isn’t.
5566. David Showalter | May 13, 2008 at 1:37 pm
I am nothing more than a person who loves music and loves to play it. I think that its inconceivable that something like this could happen to the city of Chicago, which for years has been know for its music scene. Now we want to abolish that? That would be destroying the soul of Chicago! Many up and coming artists, even small time artists wouldn’t be known at all if it wasn’t for playing in venues such as the Metro and Double Door. Puting these outrageous fees on people who just want to be heard will be a huge negitive impact on future Chicago music, even more to freedom of speech! We cannot let this happen to our city! This ordinance must be stopped!!!
SoulReaver_Raziel@msn.com
5567. Zahit Krajna | May 13, 2008 at 1:38 pm
This ordinance is incredibly damaging to Chicago’s cultural well-being. Chicago is famous for many things. One of which is music. The entire musical culture of America owes a lot to the great music that has been coming out of Chicago for over 60 years. If an ordinance like this was passed in the days of the early electrified blues, where would American music and culture be right now? Where would popular music be throughout the world? All popular music of the last 60 years owes a great debt to Chicago. This ordinance will destroy one of Chicago’s most important cultural contributions to the world. Music. It’s what Chicago’s been famous for throughout the world.
5568. Michael Hobson | May 13, 2008 at 1:38 pm
Music is a media of freedom. The Chicago government is trying to take away our freedoms under the banner of the E2 tragedy (which was the fault of the venue’s owner and the slow-enforcing building department, NOT the promoter). It is well known that venues are rarely oversold and overcrowded. The city is claiming this to be the main reason for the ordinance. Please realize that it is the young promoters that bring up their generation on music and they have to start young and with nothing.
The music/entertainment scene in Chicago has grown to be the worst in the country thanks to the many restrictions. This ordinance will further this reputation and will rob Chicago’s youth of their musical freedom.
5569. Jack Sparacino | May 13, 2008 at 1:39 pm
As a member of the Chicago music scene in my band: Bang! Bang! I have played many of the clubs that will be affected by this overbearing Promoters Ordinance.
I wholeheartedly oppose this ordinance as I believe it will cripple the ability of artists like myself to have shows in the city of Chicago.
Bang! Bang! has been featured in New City, Chicago Sun-Times, The Reader and have recently played Chicago’s Looptopia festival. If it were not for clubs like the Empty Bottle….we would have never become the Chicago band we are today.
To the aldermen: please vote NO against this uninformed and out of touch ordinance.
5570. Sara Mahoney | May 13, 2008 at 1:39 pm
I oppose the Promoter’s Ordinance.
5571. Max | May 13, 2008 at 1:39 pm
This ordinance is terrifying and will limit the freedom of expression of chicago’s artists. Many of us will be forced to leave the city.
We need to make our opposition public and organized. Say NO to the ordinance!
5572. Kathryn | May 13, 2008 at 1:39 pm
This ordinance will be extremely damaging to the cultural heart of Chicago. Please oppose this measure.
5573. Larry Brown | May 13, 2008 at 1:39 pm
Ridiculous.
5574. Melanie Cruz | May 13, 2008 at 1:40 pm
I think this is pointless because the city is not thinking about how many jobs would be lost. People make money by singing, managing clubs, etc. There would be an imense amount of people losing their jobs.
It would be easier to get a gun than it is to conduct a conert. I think outdoor festivals-like looptopia or warped tour brings the city together and bring the people money. chicago is famous for a variety of bands playing, and what is the point of making this law legal? There are only negative affects and i think it’s a very BAD idea.
5575. Anne Jablo | May 13, 2008 at 1:40 pm
This ordinance is rediculous. How sad it would be for our artists musicians, and fans if this passes.
VOTE NO!!!!
5576. allison | May 13, 2008 at 1:40 pm
i don’t understand why anybody would think this up in the first place. it makes absolutely no sense. it’s hard enough being a promoter and small-time artist in this town as it is, especially financially. a career has to start somewhere; why would anyone pass this to make it even harder? part of what makes chicago ‘Chicago’ is how much there is going on. everybody talks about it, and it’s why i moved here two years ago. this would be hugely disappointing. fie, for shame, legislators…
5577. Brian Weith | May 13, 2008 at 1:40 pm
This proposed ordinance is almost as ridiculous as the one to ban small plastic bags in an attempt to stop drug traffic in Chicago. Please do not pass this ordinance and ruin Chicago’s local culture, arts and music scene!
5578. Samantha Hoffman | May 13, 2008 at 1:41 pm
As a Completely unbiased Missouri Resident I even disagree with this! It is absolutely unnecessary.
5579. The Promoter's Ordinance has been pulled! | May 13, 2008 at 1:41 pm
Date: May 13, 2008 1:04:42 PM CDT
To: undisclosed-recipients: ;
Subject: The Promoters Ordinance has been pulled
Please spread the word the Promoters Ordinance has been pulled from City Council until further research. I guess a lot of musicians and clubs etc. responded quickly.
BT
Bradford E. Thacker
Project Administrator
Department of Cultural Affairs
Chicago Cultural Center
78 E. Washington
Chicago IL>60602
5580. Kaitlin | May 13, 2008 at 1:41 pm
I was shocked to hear of this. I have always been into music and going to venues to check out new and up & coming bands. Although I do not live in Chicago I have always loved the great music culture of that city. It has always been one city I’ve always wanted to visit. I think this would hurt the city a lot more than people might think.
5581. Katie Marie | May 13, 2008 at 1:41 pm
If this ordinance does pass, you can expect to be hearing from the thousands of Chicagoans who wouldn’t be in Chicago if not for the vibrant underground arts scene. And believe me, we are a noisy bunch.
5582. evan.P | May 13, 2008 at 1:41 pm
I’m from Indianapolis. I will now have to travel to Cincinatti or even Detroit to catch the small artists that won’t come to my hometown. This is no good for the city or the artists!
5583. Robin | May 13, 2008 at 1:41 pm
Total bs
they will lose tons of tourist revenue if there are less shows/events…. idiots
5584. Wendy Miller | May 13, 2008 at 1:42 pm
Dear Members of the Chicago City Council -
Please consider the serious repercussions to the decision you are about to make. Though the stated intentions of this ordinance are to ensure human safety – if passed – this ordinance will cause long-term destruction in ways that may not be directly apparent.
Not only does the ordinance make the celebration and promotion of arts & culture something that its primary makers and supporters do not have the capital or infrastructure to afford, but it also represses free expression and the right to assemble.
Though I live in Portland, Oregon, I feel passionately that you should VOTE NO on this ordinance. If passed, it would set a most unfortunate precedent that has the potential to undermine grass-roots, non-profit and small business efforts of arts & culture communities at large.
Please consider all of the facets of this ordinance to recognize its myriad of flaws. Will the passing of this ordinance really keep people safe? It seems, instead, to have the potential to devastate many of the city’s esteemed makers and presenters of arts & culture, and those whose lives are better for it. Furthermore, it creates the potential for an underground, “black market” for cultural assembly. Not only does that undermine the health of arts & culture, but is that the kind of city that you want Chicago to be?
As a voting member of City Council – please ask yourself – do I want to be one of the people who contributed to the historic vote that led to the demise of the Chicago’s cultural capital? Given that an important element of Chicago’s history and identity are the arts & culture icons that have made this city their creative home – now and in decades past – please realize the devastation that this ordinance would cause.
PLEASE VOTE NO.
Sincerely,
Wendy Miller
Portland, OR
5585. Melanie Cruz | May 13, 2008 at 1:42 pm
This will greatly affect the music community. People make a living from music. This is a bad idea.
5586. Neil Laferty | May 13, 2008 at 1:42 pm
Chicago prides itself on being a center of cultural and artistic diversity, yet this law is 100% at odds with that. You are chipping away at the very essence of what makes Chicago great. PLEASE reconsider this. There must be a better way to achieve your goals without such devastating side-effects.
5587. John Gannon | May 13, 2008 at 1:42 pm
I don’t live in Chicago for the cold weather or soul-crushing traffic – I live here for the underground music scene. If thats gone, no better reason to live here than in North Dakota.
I will be relocating if I can’t participate in the local music scene, I hear MN is real nice!
5588. Danielle L | May 13, 2008 at 1:42 pm
What a way to suck the culture out of a city that was built on it. One of the reasons this city is so great is because of our Theater and Music. I see no positive out comes from this decision.
5589. Tara San Nicolas | May 13, 2008 at 1:43 pm
With laws so strick and terms so loose, this is not going to be very effective. Venues will either have to close or raise prices to keep up with insurance cost and or licence fees. Musical acts may find it too expensive and go elsewhere. Chicago will be losing money and culture, just because of the few that make it unsafe. If this proposal doesn’t get reworked, say goodbye to Chicago’s musical culture. Please allow Chicago Music Board to work with the ordinance so that only those who trully don’t follow saftey guidelines will be effected. I understand the need for an ordinance to ensure that places are safe for people enjoying entertainment, but this ordinance is too broad and will negatively effect many places that already insure a safe place to hold entertaiment events.
5590. Rochelle Kopp | May 13, 2008 at 1:43 pm
As a University of Chicago MBA graduate, I think this ordinance is the worst idea ever — strangling the city’s cultural scene with red tape! I travel across the country for work and Chicago’s arts scene is one of it’s best aspects — don’t ruin it!
With all the murder and crime going on in the city, shouldn’t the government be working on solving real problems?
5591. Michael Ibrahim | May 13, 2008 at 1:43 pm
I think this is a horrible idea. I am a resident of Lakeview and would be extremely upset if a number of the performance venues that make it such a vibrant neighborhood were not able to attract up-and-coming talent because of these restrictions.
Don’t stifle Chicago culture and art!
I strongly oppose this bill!!
5592. Richard O'Meara | May 13, 2008 at 1:44 pm
This Event Promoter’s Ordinance sounds more like underhanded controlling of artistic creativity and expressiveness as well as putting the open forum of creative expression in the hands of the rich minority. To me, an ordinance is something that protects society from a potential harm. I fail to see what I’m being protected from with this ordinance.
5593. JASON MICHAELS | May 13, 2008 at 1:44 pm
This is ridiculous! I am opposed to this ordinance.
5594. Jesse Bakker | May 13, 2008 at 1:44 pm
This ordinance seems to have a ‘better than thou’ attitude and a selfish purpose. Please do not pass this. It would be totally bogus.
5595. Jimmy Riley | May 13, 2008 at 1:44 pm
This is a bad idea! I’m sick at the notion. Seems to be motivated by nothing more than greed.
5596. Emily Yeager | May 13, 2008 at 1:44 pm
Please use the city’s resources to stop violent crime, gun crime, domestic violence, dog fighting rings, etc. Art and music can (and will) manage themselves.
5597. Malik Freedom | May 13, 2008 at 1:45 pm
More legislation looking for a problem to solve — while instead creating one. As an independent musician in the city, I can only view this ordinance as a way to generate more money for the city while doing grievous harm to Chicago’s music scene. Small promoters and artists alike would find it very hard if not impossible to deliver and promote events at the venues we all know and love. VOTE NO, Aldermen!
5598. Ben Zimmer | May 13, 2008 at 1:45 pm
I am SO opposed. Chicago thrives off of these venues.
5599. kayla martin | May 13, 2008 at 1:45 pm
i am not from chicago, but i travel from two hours away, often, to see acts there. i am really saddened to hear news like this! you should print all these comments out to present with the petition to prove how many people care about this! my fiance is in a touring band, and anyone in a touring band o =r who works with one knows that there is no way touring acts, especially underground ones, will ever be able to afford this kind of fee. and what good would it do? it would ruin local art and music culture, and would completely alienate touring acts. even medium sized labels won’t want to pay this fine to send their acts to ONE city. chicago will be come a silent and artless wasteland, with no patrons. why would the city do this? the actions of one should not ruin the lives of many!
5600. Mark Thomas | May 13, 2008 at 1:45 pm
VOTE NO!!!!!!
5601. Anthony Nowaske | May 13, 2008 at 1:45 pm
There is no need to warrent this new law and it serves only to hurt the city’s best interest. Killing off the independent arts movement in this city will have untold ramifications in other areas of the cities night/social life
5602. Paul LoPiccolo | May 13, 2008 at 1:46 pm
Please save the promoters of chicago this is horrible.
5603. Jake Grover | May 13, 2008 at 1:46 pm
Terrible idea. I know they are likely to lose some of my ter dollars if they put this law into effect.
5604. Lars Djuvik | May 13, 2008 at 1:46 pm
I call on our alderman to VOTE NO to this senseless ordinanace that will affect the thriving and growing music community that we have here in Chicago.
5605. Andrea | May 13, 2008 at 1:46 pm
Please stop the promotors ordinance. I depend on music. It has been, at times, the only thing that gets me through life’s ups and downs. Anyone who could possibly consider messing with music this way, obviously doesn’t realize how important music is to the rest of us. I don’t ever want to imagine a day with no music and I don’t understand why people are always trying to mess with it. For many people, it is the one true escape from life. Please, just leave it alone.
5606. Sean Samet | May 13, 2008 at 1:46 pm
I am extremely opposed to any ordinance that will make it more difficult to put on a musical show or theatrical event.
5607. Traci Bennett | May 13, 2008 at 1:46 pm
This ordinance is a terrible idea. I can’t see where it is benefiting the people of Chicago. The venues that will be affected by this are Chicago landmarks. They are some of the best venues in the city and in the country for music and theatre. Chicago is known for its extensive variety of music and theatre offered, and making it next to impossible for smaller bands and theatrical productions to be able to find a place to play in Chicago is ridiculous and benefits no one. I strongly urge the Chicago city council to reconsider and fully evaluate the negative impact of this ordinance.
5608. Britni Day | May 13, 2008 at 1:46 pm
Are you kidding me?!
With a new band who funds itself and is ready to start moving into bigger venues, I am furious that this is even being thought about!
Chicago is known for it’s local music scene and helping all those small bands out there in the city and beyond.
Way to try and kill an entire culture you money hungry bastards!
Fie! Fie on you!!
Always,
Britni
Micro Korg-ist for The Gorilla Press
5609. Piper Casteel | May 13, 2008 at 1:46 pm
Completely opposed!
5610. Andrew Rogosin | May 13, 2008 at 1:47 pm
This seems heavy handed and needs to be rethought. For one thing, there should be exceptions for small performances where the entire show might not net the minimum $500 fee. Open mic nights and other similar small venues that would be most hindered by this contribute tremendously to the color and vibrancy of the city and any ordinance that threatens to shut them down is a bad one.
5611. Charlene Farrell | May 13, 2008 at 1:47 pm
Should this ordinance become a reality in Chicago, it would be an understatement to say that the City would be stripped of its livelihood. It’d be beyond me how the leaders of this great City could even think about causing music and other cultural expressions to become so hard to present to the public. I think everyone involved in this decision needs to really step back and THINK about what they are doing.
5612. Mark Brewer | May 13, 2008 at 1:47 pm
This is complete insanity. The council apparently isn’t aware of the huge economic impact that the music and theatre scene have, and how young and less established performers provide significant fuel for the scene.
It’s so insane, it’s hard to imagine how this can be enforced. I can envision some Ghandi-esque civil disobedience here. Perhaps a city-wide arts jam? How could they possibly fine and arrest all of us?
5613. Bruce O'Neal | May 13, 2008 at 1:47 pm
This is really a rediculous thing to do. Please stop this ordinance.
5614. Tim Quirk | May 13, 2008 at 1:48 pm
As the Green Party’s candidate for the 12th Representative District on Chicago’s north side I want to voice my opposition to this piece of ill-conceived legislation.
The Chicago music scene is one of the strongest draws for young people and to unnecessarily overburden the venues that host these events will only serve to push aspiring artists, musicians and that vibrancy they bring to other cities.
5615. nancy Wulfers | May 13, 2008 at 1:48 pm
Passage of this ordinance would utterly destroy the music scene in Chicago and in turn would have an adverse effect on any claim Chicago might make about its thriving culture. How can it hope to compete on an international level (Olympics) or continue to appeal to the convention trade and tourist traffic if it closes down this very vital part of Chicago. Chicago Blues? Jazz? Cabaret singers? Piano Bars? The musicians who play and sing at venues offering these types of music barely eke out a living. They are lucky sometimes to come home with $50 on an evening — and you want them to pay $500 per event? Shame on the City Council for even suggesting such a ridiculous ordinance! Chicago, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING??
Please add my name to any petition against passage of this ordinance.
5616. Nicole | May 13, 2008 at 1:48 pm
I STRONGLY oppose this law becoming in effect. I am a dancer and performer, entertainment is my occupation and how I support myself. There should NEVER be law to stop creative expression and talent. The world will definitely NOT benefit from this ridiculous law if put in effect!!!!!
5617. Jake | May 13, 2008 at 1:48 pm
This ordinance is only going to further inhibit our rights as citizens of this fair city. What’s next, we’re going to be banning anyone who performs on the CTA? One of the greatest things about this city is that one can go out and about and see and hear all kinds of music along the way. I have absolutely no problem with the way things are now, so what’s the point in changing them? Instead of thinking about all the money that the city will be making, maybe the regard should be on the people who are losing even more of their rights. Let’s not take (any of) our music away.
5618. Jennifer Locascio | May 13, 2008 at 1:49 pm
Music and Theater is a vital part of this city that sets it apart from so many others. We need to maintain and environment that is supportive.
5619. Amy Rieckelman | May 13, 2008 at 1:49 pm
Do the voices of thousands of people, from all around this nation, mean nothing to the City of Chicago? This seems like an poorly thought out, knee jerk reaction that is punishing all for the actions of a few. Stifen the penalties for current infractions. Do not ipass this elitist, big-business proposition
Musicians (from around the world) look to small venues to begin their carreers. People like John Mayer, Damien Rice, KT Tunstall, and bands such as Wilco, The Shins, Death Cab for Cutie, and The Smashing Pumpkins, all started by playing Schubas and the Metro. To small audiences. How many bands might miss a chance to share their music? How many artists, actors, and musicians will chose to move? Not to mention, should this pass and the venues close, how many Chicagoans will lose their jobs?
Lollapalooza brings in millions of dollars to the City of Chicago, and hosts events at the smaller venues the week of and before. Why should this revenue generating festival stay, if the City is going to make it difficult?
Let the music be. Please say no to this wreck of a proposition.
5620. Michael Dicks | May 13, 2008 at 1:50 pm
Absolute B.S.!
5621. Julie Heyduk | May 13, 2008 at 1:50 pm
Why would anyone want an ordinance that would damage the availability of music that comes from independent musicians? There is great support in this city for local venues and talent, why mess with a good thing?
5622. Brian | May 13, 2008 at 1:50 pm
Please find another way to rape your law abiding citizens of their hard earned money. Isn’t there a sales-tax hike coming at the end of the year?
5623. Isabella Godinez | May 13, 2008 at 1:50 pm
This is revolting! I can’t believe this. The best music comes from local bands. The beauty of this city is its diversity and richness in the arts. They can’t take that away. We have to stop this bill!
5624. DJ Kevin Johnson | May 13, 2008 at 1:50 pm
Checking in all the way from Texas. Would hate to see this happen. Who knows how long until this spreads throughout the country.
5625. Jess | May 13, 2008 at 1:50 pm
Absolutely unacceptable.
5626. Charlene Farrell | May 13, 2008 at 1:50 pm
Should this ordinance become a reality in Chicago, it would be an understatement to say that the City would be stripped of its livelihood. It is beyond me how the leaders of this great City could even think about causing music and other cultural expressions to become so hard to present to the public. I think everyone involved in this decision needs to really step back and THINK about what they are doing.
5627. Michael Perkins | May 13, 2008 at 1:51 pm
This is asinine, ludacris and over the top! Please stop this madness Chicago City Council! Save Chicago nightlife!
I VOTE NO!
5628. Joe DeRosa | May 13, 2008 at 1:51 pm
This is silly. I want to put on a legitimate fun show and I’m gonna get fined. Daley can go fuck himself. Twice
5629. sana | May 13, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Chicago will be doomed if the ordinance is passed! We can’t let them do this. Keep Chicago’s heart pulsating!
5630. bill warden | May 13, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Sounds pretty backwards, even where I’m from.
Bill Warden
performer
The South
5631. Nate H | May 13, 2008 at 1:52 pm
The decision to impose restrictions on “promoters” for smaller venue shows is criminal. Chicago has been and should continue to be a culturally diverse and exciting city. Restrictions placed on events, that in the past have proved to be a breeding ground for national talent, is doing nothing for public safety or public interest. It is just another way for the government to fill their pockets. I guess Chicago wants to spread the wealth to the suburbs because that’s where these shows will go.
5632. Mike Ryan | May 13, 2008 at 1:52 pm
I totally oppose this ordinance.
5633. Angela LaGioia | May 13, 2008 at 1:52 pm
This ordinance can only kill the local bar/club that allows the local musician/artist to be able to do what it is they love to do. That is what makes this city great… seeing some random act in some small club on a Tuesday… thats what makes this city great. Don’t take that away from us.
5634. Bill Meyer | May 13, 2008 at 1:52 pm
I have written about this city’s music community in local, nationa, and internationall publications for nearly 20 years. The city should seek to nurture, not obstruct, the non-mega-business aspects of its culture. Our music community is something special and it is the envy of other cities around the world. When Chicago’s culture has languished, so have its economic fortunes (look at the 70s).This could happen again. Concerns about patron safety can (and should!) be addressed through the consistent and honest enforcement of existing laws rather than the imposition of new ones that won’t accomplish their intended goal, except by putting diverse cultural expressions out of business. Does the city really want to see all the theaters and music clubs relocate to the suburbs or simply evaporate? Every alderman should vote against this short-sighted ordinance.
5635. Antoine Bernardeau | May 13, 2008 at 1:52 pm
As a former resident of Chicago and an active witness of Chicago’s vibrant music scene, I strongly oppose such a law being enabled and virtually halting any creative renewal of the city’s culture>
5636. Brittany Graf | May 13, 2008 at 1:52 pm
BAD IDEA.
5637. Lucinda Alipio | May 13, 2008 at 1:52 pm
This ordinance is CRIMINAL to the Arts Community of Chicago and completely UNACCEPTABLE. Many of Chicago’s residents have moved to Chicago to pursue a career in the Arts. This city is known for its culture within the arts. This ordinance would make it impossible for new beginners, new artists to come to Chicago and thrive. Its already suffering with the lack of funding in general. Clearly there is no one with any arts experience working on this ordinance and therefore we as artists are not even being considered in this vote. There are so many other issues to be looked at within Chicago that deserves more attention than finding ways to kill Chicago’s culture. If this ordinance is to “help with safety” then they need to rewrite it to ask for more funding to provide that for this community. This cannot pass.
5638. Allison Allen | May 13, 2008 at 1:52 pm
Do NOT do this! People move to this city for the cultural offerings. You will lose the BEST part of our population.
5639. Dennis Scott | May 13, 2008 at 1:52 pm
Chicago has a rich musical history – as rich as any city in the United States. Some of the biggest names in every genre of music for more than 100 years got their start or their big break in Chicago’s theatres and clubs. Young musicians, trying to get started in the business, as well as seasoned veterans finding fewer and fewer venues in which to perform, will all be put out of business by this ordinance if they want to remain in Chicago. It’s impossible for me to imagine Chicago without it’s diverse musical tapestry and even more difficult to imagine a City Council with such callous disregard for live music & entertainment. With music and arts programs losing funding all over the country, It’s increasingly difficult for talented musicians to find a niche. If this ordinance passes, Chicago’s musical heritage will come to a very sad end as musicians leave in droves for a friendlier musical environment.
5640. angelo madrigale | May 13, 2008 at 1:53 pm
as a gallery owner, I can tell you this will cripple the arts in the long term to appease the corporate interests of the short term. those who would profit from this would be long gone, while generations could still feel the residual effect that this ordinance would take. can you imagine if this had happened in 50′s greenwich village? would the beat literature movement have even happened? where would a young Miles Davis have performed? consider looking at the big picture and the legacy of your city’s arts – this is something that could deeply cripple the culture of a major city for decades. absolutely nothing good can come of this ordinance passing.
5641. Rebecca Marquardt | May 13, 2008 at 1:53 pm
I moved to Chicago specifically because of all the performance opportunities available. You don’t have to be an expert because it isn’t expensive to put on a show here. So many people have come to Chicago with a few ideas and went on to do theater, film, and television around the world. If the “little man” has to spend as much as they’re expecting us to, then we may as well be in any other city. The small theater companies are the reason I love Chicago.
5642. LV | May 13, 2008 at 1:53 pm
The only thing that I was excited about after graduation and moving back home, was that I would finally be around the amazing chicago music scene. Now it might be taken away from me with this ridiculous and absurd law. There are bigger issues in the city that you should worry about besides monitoring small local shows that a bunch of kids just came out to enjoy.
5643. Cassandra Amatuzio | May 13, 2008 at 1:53 pm
This is a bad idea for the Chicago music scene. Not olny will doing this hurt Chicago’s music reputation, but it will hurt Chicago’s economy. Im from Toronto and i know many people who flock to Chicago to watch their favourite bands (small or big bands) play at clubs like Metro. Think of all the revenue comming into your city because of this.
Please vote NO
Cassandra
5644. Nancy McCabe | May 13, 2008 at 1:53 pm
Chicago has one of the best music scenes in the world. We bring in people from all over the US, it’s what we’re known for. This ordinance would completely change the culture of Chicago.
5645. Lisette M | May 13, 2008 at 1:53 pm
Great work everyone, here is an update!!!
“Following a nearly unprecedented outpouring of concern from the Chicago music community and a meeting with activists and some of the top concert promoters and venue owners in Chicago, Ald. Eugene Schulter, chairman of the City Council License Committee, decided on Tuesday that he will not present the so-called “event promoter’s ordinance” to the full council for a vote on Wednesday — and that the committee will go back to work on fine-tuning the law.”
Follow the link to read more…
http://blogs.suntimes.com/derogatis/2008/05/update_promoters_ordinance_tab.html#more
5646. Adam Dittman | May 13, 2008 at 1:53 pm
I totally oppose this ordinance. Please add my name to the petition. It would completely be a low blow to the DIY and independent music scene here in Chicago. This is horrible, and I really hope that it doesn’t pass.
5647. Wesley | May 13, 2008 at 1:53 pm
This ordinance must be stopped. As someone who has not lived in Chicago his entire life and who made the decision to move here in my early 20s, I know the importance of the types of venues and events that make Chicago stand out from other cities. The people I know who don’t live in the city visit (and bring money into the city) for street festivals or smaller shows. Then, while they’re here, they pump more money into our economy by visiting our restaurants or staying in our hotels. There’s no denying that this has a tremendous impact on so much more than just whether or not you have a nice, smaller venue in which to see the bands you love. That other side cannot be ignored, though. The bands and the artists that have erupted out of the Chicago scene make us so important because of the diversity in these art forms. Yes, in cities like New York City and Los Angeles you can find a certain diversity. At the same time, though, you can also clearly say there’s a “New York sound” or an “L.A. sound.” I’m not so sure you can take all of the tremendous music that’s out there and say there’s a very specific “Chicago sound,” and I think it would be horrible to have our city end up as just another stereotype.
If this ordinance passes, we run the risk of running out a lot of people who would visit to experience what makes this city diverse and important. I know that in my case, and I’m sure it’s the same for others, it also means running the risk of driving out the people who are already here and who already contribute a lot to the economy (because after all it’s the mighty dollar that matters in all of this, right?).
5648. Jonathan G | May 13, 2008 at 1:54 pm
There is so much wrong with this – it’s not even funny.
Just make the case to the City about the lost revenue…we all know they are about money.
By the way, how is the el and public transportation situation coming along? Let’s recall the status on that…which affect a greater portion of the population than the few clubs and dance halls that are left in the city.
5649. Dustin Camilleri | May 13, 2008 at 1:54 pm
Please do not take away Chicago’s cultural identity.
VOTE NO.
5650. Doug Wick | May 13, 2008 at 1:54 pm
Wrong. Don’t try to regulate my rock n’ roll, you can’t. You can pass this, but any money you might have made will be used up in enforcement, and then some.
5651. Sara | May 13, 2008 at 1:54 pm
What a truly asinine idea. How much of our freedoms are they going to take away before the city grows a pair and stands up? Local shows in Chicago have made up and still make up a massive part of my life. I couldn’t imagine life without them. Think of all the Chicago bands who are big today. They started out playing locally here. Are we going to make them seek out fame in another city?
5652. Susan | May 13, 2008 at 1:54 pm
What a terrible idea. It makes me wonder about the original “indie” music scene of Chicago Blues. Why stamp out something that is part of our history and makes this city great.
5653. Brooke | May 13, 2008 at 1:54 pm
Please do not pass this ordinance!
5654. Nate H | May 13, 2008 at 1:54 pm
and another thing…..if the city is REALLY concerned for public saftey, why don’t they focus on poverty, unemployment, drugs, and gang violence, and leave us oh so dangerous artists and musicians alone.
5655. Karl Kimpo | May 13, 2008 at 1:55 pm
EVENT PROMOTER ORDINANCE: BAD FOR CHICAGO
DO NOT PASS THIS ORDINANCE. Do not punish responsible, experienced event promoters who continue to have a long standing history of having well-run events.
Please work with the Chicago Music Commission on a policy solution that will benefit all.
Karl Kimpo
Ward 46
5656. pogo | May 13, 2008 at 1:55 pm
I hope the city does what they do best, and truly look at the potential effect on their bottom line. Think of the artists, musicians, performers, dj’s, or even just the lovers of the work of these people who would be forced to pull up stakes and leave town. Lost taxes, automobile registration fees, driver’s licence fees, CTA usage…the list goes on. City Counsil, can you afford such an exodus? Probably not. Simply vote “NO”, please.
5657. Katie | May 13, 2008 at 1:55 pm
Bad bad idea.
5658. michael Phillips | May 13, 2008 at 1:55 pm
this absolutely unacceptable. It would act to reduce Chicago’s innovation culturally to a level of insignificance matched by most midwestern suburbs. please dont let this happen.
5659. Jen Martensen | May 13, 2008 at 1:55 pm
This would place most of the music scene in Chicago under nearly impossible expectations.
The most popular venues are operated by responsible owners and managers: Metro, Double Door, Schuba’s, Hideout – all of whom offer invaluable music shows and experiences with comfortable and well-run environments.
They all responded to new ways of doing things after the E2 and Great White disasters – and should be rewarded, not PUNISHED, for adapting their businesses, and for continuing to put on great shows.
Vote against this ordinance!!
5660. Jennifer Maxson | May 13, 2008 at 1:56 pm
Almost every venue that I frequent, DJ at, and help promote will be directly affected by this law. This will not only keep outside bands, DJs, and promoters from wanting to work in Chicago but will most likely end up being the result of the closing of many small clubs in this city. Isn’t part of the greatness of this city our dedication to the arts, big or small? Vote “NO!” on Wednesday!
5661. Chris Clemente | May 13, 2008 at 1:56 pm
Has any one thought of the underground clubs and events that would occur? We’re just opening the doors for mob activity.
5662. Andrew McLees | May 13, 2008 at 1:57 pm
I moved here from Miami about 8 months ago to attend school under the impression that Chicago had more to offer in terms of Arts and Culture; I hoped to find my niche in a city that wasn’t so singular in thought and exclusive in scope. Luckily, I found a home in Chicago and its top-shelf Arts and Music scene, made friends and found new, interesting things to do, a lot of which were made possible by the same people this legislation seeks to persecute.
To enact this legislation would be devastating to the city I sought over every other city in America, a coup de grâce for local music, hobbyists, students moonlighting as musicians and tastemakers, everyone. I’d likely be just as devastated being a hopeful local DJ and music enthusiast hoping to one day start a band and play for the people who support me most. Please, re-evaluate what this means to the people of Chicago, both the promoters and the people who support them–there’s a lot more at stake than mere dollars and cents.
5663. James Alvin Barron | May 13, 2008 at 1:57 pm
… and I though I loved Chicago for it’s low sales tax, smooth roads, honest politics, Maxwell Street & the 2016 olympic bid!
No, I love my city & want to live here forever because they continue to find ways to tax or destroy the culture that the city was built on. I’m looking forward to being taxed for Lake Michigan or riding my bike instead of driving my car & I wouldn’t be surpised, as I’m not all that tuned in, if I already am.
What I do know, as a musician, fan of live music & friend of many in Chicago’s music & theatre community, is that the idea of this proposal in particular makes me want to throw it all out of the window & say goodbye to all of the great times I’ve had here. I have a feeling that they will be few & far between from here on out!
5664. greg stimac | May 13, 2008 at 1:57 pm
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5665. Chris Powers | May 13, 2008 at 1:58 pm
This ordinance is a blatently facist attempt to oust small promoters whom often have nothing to do with the revenue of larger venues and it sickens me. I have already been fed up with the current trend of disguised facism politics in our nation as is, I will not stand to let this trend destroy the vital art community of Chicago without letting my voice be heard.
Write your aldermen! Unite! Protest! Destroy facist-capitolist politics that will slowly erode our civil rights!
5666. Darren Hooper | May 13, 2008 at 1:58 pm
Shame on you Chicago for even considering this! Stop yuppieficating our art & music communities for profits! You make it hard enough on us financially as it is. To pursue art or music, one must burn the candle at both ends. How’s about giving us a break? Remember, we are YOUR entertainment, entertaining YOUR citizens. Don’t turn your back on us! Shouldn’t you be worried more about the safety of YOUR citizens in our streets as opposed to in a venue? You should be more concerned with gang activity… or are you working hand in hand with them for your profits?
5667. Zoran Gvojic | May 13, 2008 at 1:58 pm
As a comedian who has shown his work at the Lincoln Lodge and the Cornservatory this new ordinance could possibly destroy the rich comedy scene that Chicago is known for. If we are to ever make Chicago rise above the standard new york and LA entertainment centers, we must do everything we can to nurse it’s creative community. Chicago is amazing and we want to keep it that way.
5668. Nick Ferrin | May 13, 2008 at 1:58 pm
Vote NO to unreasonable restrictions on any kind of event!
I believe this law in its current form restricts on our first Amendment Right to peacefully assemble!
5669. PAUL BLAIR | May 13, 2008 at 1:58 pm
This is not an acceptable course for the city of Chicago to take. There are already so many laws and fees imposed on venues, that the fact that there is even an attempt to enact a law of this nature is simply silly and greedy. Chicago is widely know for its music and culture, and to put this type of law into action would surely destroy it’s highly regarded reputation.
I pay a lot in taxes and serve on several committees that raise money for various city programs. Should a damaging law such as this be passed, I will be seeking residence elsewhere.
Paul Blair
djwhiteshadow.com
5670. Shawn Barnett | May 13, 2008 at 1:59 pm
I do not support this law. I am a performer and it would really make my lifestyle impossible. I do not even see the positive side of the law. It will just have negative effects on the culture of Chicago.
5671. Don Francis | May 13, 2008 at 1:59 pm
I severely oppose this ordinance. The music culture of Chicago is integral to the city. This will immensely cripple the music of the city.
I can’t even believe something like this could even get close to being passed? You mean to tell me no one in City Hall has ever gone to a Blues Club in Chicago? I find it hard to believe that there was no thought of the repricussions of the cultural implications a law like this wold have. Oh yeah, I forgot… all they care about is covering their asses in case something happens to them
5672. Bryce | May 13, 2008 at 1:59 pm
No. Just, no.
5673. Kim R. | May 13, 2008 at 2:00 pm
NO— to inserting a new Chapter 4-157, titled AEvent Promoters@,
After reading this ordinance it seems this is the rationale-
This ordinance basically takes away the rights of independent artists who are not directly affiliated with a corporation, employed by the City of Chicago or not for profit organization.
I do not understand the logic behind this legislation.
This city needs a thriving art community and this ordinance takes away the rights of residents to have a forum to display and share their work with the city. I am already tired of this city’s potholes, inexcusable public transit system, and school system.
Limiting the rights and taking away spaces for the arts will be this city’s downfall.
5674. Nicky Cheese » Blog Archive » Chicago music scene needs MORE government regulation and licensing! | May 13, 2008 at 2:00 pm
[...] actual solution (note that it only took 5 years…). From Save Chicago Culture: The “Event Promoters” ordinance requires any event promoter to have a license from the city of [...]
5675. Alison Daigle | May 13, 2008 at 2:00 pm
Vote NO to keep Chicago’s cultural scene vibrant –
5676. Edie Lustie | May 13, 2008 at 2:00 pm
The people who have proposed this legislation obviously have no idea how it could affect the musical community or they would have taken more time to carefully craft an ordinance that addressed the actual problem rather than drafting a blanket regulation that will only hurt musicians and complicate things further. VOTE NO!
5677. Matthew Simcoe | May 13, 2008 at 2:00 pm
What does this ordinance add to our city? Few cities in the world offer the quality and diversity of Chicago’s nightly live music scene. This is a jewel in our crown. Why pry it out? Does anyone benefit from this ordinance?
5678. Debra Parma | May 13, 2008 at 2:01 pm
I’m not even from Chicago, or anywhere near it, but this is outrageous.
5679. Chris Hammes | May 13, 2008 at 2:01 pm
The people who run chicago want to think of this city as a destination for tourism. If it’s not for all the locally run venues there would be no destination. The motivation for these people is passion for art and music, not money. That doesn’t fit into a neat clean safe box and so they want to shut down an entire city’s creative community. it won’t happen, this is just a way to shut down organizations that otherwise haven’t been able to be shut down. bullshit.
5680. Brent Mix | May 13, 2008 at 2:01 pm
I thought Chicago was better than this. And in the same month that George Lewis’ history of the AACM comes out. Nothing short of shameful.
5681. kat king | May 13, 2008 at 2:01 pm
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5682. Sarah-Ji | May 13, 2008 at 2:01 pm
Looks like we’ve gotten a stay of execution. Thanks to all who spoke up! Now we need to work to keep this from passing in the future.
5683. J. Greene | May 13, 2008 at 2:02 pm
It’s bad enough they’re tearing music and art programs out of schools due to ‘funding’, but to do it on a larger scale?? Essentially stifling millions of people’s creativity, passion, and entertainment. For what purpose? Live music and performance art on a non-commercial level has saved many lives, including my own. This ordinance is absurd and further promotes the padding of legislators pockets. They should worry about other issues instead of live music, art, and promoting/booking….maybe street crime, drugs, or hey, what about world peace?!
5684. Nadia Abdelkoui | May 13, 2008 at 2:02 pm
Electronic Signature – Nadia Abdelkoui
I move to oppose the promoter’s ordinance.
5685. Adam Rechkemmer | May 13, 2008 at 2:02 pm
Chicago, the new Branson!
5686. Lindsay Williams | May 13, 2008 at 2:03 pm
As a Chicago improviser, I appreciate all the local bars and spaces that offer their space as a performance area. It’s a great opportunity for local improvisers, musicians, stand up comedians, etc. to show their talent and make new friends. It’s what makes this city so unique. Any given night of the week, there are so many places to go, whether it’s a poetry slam or a sketch comedy show. there is a huge artistic community in the city that relies on these spaces to practice their art. Without it, we lose so much.
5687. Kim R. | May 13, 2008 at 2:03 pm
NO—to inserting a new Chapter- 4-157, titled AEvent Promoters@,
After reading this ordinance it seems this is the rationale-
This ordinance basically takes away the rights of artists who are not directly affiliated with a corporation or employed by the City of Chicago or not for profit organization.
I do not understand the logic behind this legislation.
This city needs a thriving art community and this ordinance takes away their rights to have a forum to display and share their work with the city. I am already tired of this city’s potholes, inexcusable public transit system, and school system. Limiting rights and taking away spaces for the arts will be this city’s downfall.
5688. Kristina J. | May 13, 2008 at 2:03 pm
NO THANK YOU!!!
5689. Chad Cooney | May 13, 2008 at 2:03 pm
We cannot allow our voices to go unheard. Chicago has an amazingly important music scene to many residents of the city and around the world. So many people from all areas of interest come to this city and participate in the creation of a far stretching and diverse music scene. This ordinance would essentially stop our community in its tracks. As a musician and avid show goer, I am completely opposed to the Event Promoters ordinance. Please write to your local alderman and voice your opposition!
5690. sandy jastrab | May 13, 2008 at 2:03 pm
this ordinance does not seem to address the major issue associated with e2 club. that is, dishonest owners.
the ordinance will do nothing more than attack honest, law-abiding venue and club owners at quite a significant cost to the city, its residents and our culture.
where is the justice?
5691. Gaby Davoust | May 13, 2008 at 2:03 pm
This is completely insane. Once again this city is shooting itself in the foot. Part of the draw for tourists to come to Chicago is the local music and theater scene. What would our city be without the small theater groups? We will never get to know the next Steppenwolf or Lookingglass if all these extra charges cause existing theaters to close or prohibit new groups from opening in Chicago due to these extra costs.
5692. Danny Madness | May 13, 2008 at 2:04 pm
Please don’t kill Reggie’s. I love it there, and so does everyone else. If you do this, vegan anarchists might throw fake blood on you!
5693. Terry B | May 13, 2008 at 2:04 pm
As a musician, and someone who appreciates all performing arts, I find this ordinance very bothersome. It seems like it will be difficult to enforce, and it will do more harm than good. Most clubs and venues should be ensured already, so why demand all this insurance money from promoters and performers? Independent promoters will suffer, and will not hire as many acts. This ordinance can only prove to be deadly to the performing arts scenes in Chicago. If anything the city of Chicago should be helping to support Chicago music, dance, theater, etc… because these are distinctive aspects of our culture that draw people, like tourists, to the city of Chicago.
5694. Aaron Gang | May 13, 2008 at 2:05 pm
Please don’t make it even harder for art to thrive in Chicago.
5695. Buffy Baggott | May 13, 2008 at 2:05 pm
This proposed ordinance could effectively quash not only the underground music scene, but also the many small theater companies, classical/jazz/blues music groups and organizations, not mention the smaller dance troupes, performance artists, cabaret, etc… the variety and creativity that these many groups provide are the heart and soul of the Chicago arts scene. This “events promoter ordinance” has the potential to gut an important element of what many consider to be the best of what Chicago culture has to offer.
5696. Erik Lauren | May 13, 2008 at 2:06 pm
I am a musician who books and promotes my own shows. This ordinance will make it impossible for me or any of my associates to keep playing live music in Chicago. I am severly opposed to this ordinance and the killing of live music in Chicago. What next?
5697. Pat O | May 13, 2008 at 2:06 pm
Do not pass this ordinance!
5698. Dan Wessels | May 13, 2008 at 2:07 pm
As a soon-to-be music graduate who is making most of his living playing piano for small theaters, I must object to this ordinance. Many of these theaters would be ruined if this passes, effectively putting me out of work. Please, Chicago Aldermen, vote no on this.
5699. Jim L. | May 13, 2008 at 2:07 pm
Not everyone putting on events are professional promoters which this ordinance seems squarely focused on. The number of smaller events (gallery shows, open mics, in-stores, shows in alternate spaces, etc.) will surely suffer and Chicago will be a less vital place as a result. This will force a whole social segment underground to hold these types of events, criminalizing productive and creative participation in the arts. Aldermen and women, Vote No!
5700. Noah Casser | May 13, 2008 at 2:08 pm
With most recording artists losing the bulk of their income due to illegal downloads and record company mismanagement musicians and dj’s are relying more than ever on income from live performance. This ordinance would be devastating to the cultural landscape of Chicago by hampering the ability of local venues to hold and promote events. Current economic conditions already are putting tremendous pressure on local artists and the venues they play at. Please do not increase the burden by passing this ordinance.
VOTE NO!
5701. Brittany Cornett | May 13, 2008 at 2:08 pm
First off, I don’t even live in Chicago. But I can tell you it’s almost the same thing here in Roanoke, VA. Without open venues for all of my friends’ bands, they wouldn’t be out promoting their new album right now. A lot of them would probably still be garage bands. Don’t ruin the music scene for them and us. It’s not right. Music is the one true, steady thing that keeps this world turning. Do you want to stop that? And aren’t older buildings and venues part of the great history of Chicago? I know it is here. Why would you want to destroy that? That’s what makes a city, it’s history.
5702. Katie Canavan | May 13, 2008 at 2:08 pm
Please, please, do not let this ordinance destroy the fantastic, independent art, music and theatre scene here in Chicago. I moved here for this, and would hate to see it stifled!
5703. Robin Trevino | May 13, 2008 at 2:08 pm
If this passes, there will simply be a lot of law breaking in the near future. Artist are strong willed and willing to sacrifice. Even if they pass it, we should never give in. If you do, you’ll be considered a SCAB.
Power is imaginary!
5704. Danta' Williams | May 13, 2008 at 2:09 pm
I was Born and Raised in the City of Blues, Jazz, Gospel, Soul, Rock, Soul-Jazz
Funk, R&B, Folk, and House Music with later hybrids from
other genres of Music including Chicago Hip-Hop to show Chicago is the Best City
to look at for Groundbreaking and Revolutionary Talent. Especially
with Theatre and the Arts. Chicago’s Legacy can’t be rivaled
by any other place in the World Literally!!!! and that’s the point
People with money want to Relegate Chicago as a Test
market, for Other cities and Companies, having us believe
that we have no history whatsoever in anything, that
all the Arts, and Music comes from other places and that
we are priviliged to have them Play and Perform here, and
that the only way to see or be apart of anything is to pay
these Obscene prices for it. and to Finally Just make
anything in Chicago worth Mentioning only available to the
Affluent (Rich/Famous) and the Tourists. They only want the Big Name
promoters here to do Venues, Like LiveNation and other
promoters owned by Parent Companies that got the Lock on TV/Radio/Film/Labels etc . The Film industry wasn’t able to make Films here for Years!!!! It’s Changing iLittle by Little Look at Clear
Channel and how they almost made local talent as well as Internationally/Nationally Know Local Talent on air a
thing of the past, For years Many music spots have and are being vacated or
converted. You can’t Say Fest in Chicago anymore For Blues, Jazz, or Gospel only Festival,
and it’s more out of town promotions doing things in our
House!!!!! I’ve attended many different events in Chicago and
for the most part they ended peacefully, and orderly. Even
the Police in these events Had fun!!!! Like at the Summer
DJ Fest 3 years ago. This ordinance is just about money and
Control Money for us to pay, and Control for who gets to
Play, Paint, Draw, Act, etc. We need to do more this is a
start though. And the thing is: The fools that want to
pass this, have networked, and done election drives at these
events, and Clubs especially at the Music Summits, Some have even Passed out music they’ve done there!!!! And they
Grew up in or around Chicago on all of this
they forgot now they wanna make us suffer, and make
money off of it. Again this is a Start and we need to go
Further. To make them know how important Chicago is
to the Arts, and Show How Important Chicago is to Chicago
Ya Dig???? We at are Strongest at this point and still are,
Let’s do all we can to make sure this Bill doesn’t pass, and
make the Fools in City hall look Bad in the Process for
wanting to Destroy itself.
Peace!!!!!
Danta’ Williams
DJ
5705. Kristy Marks | May 13, 2008 at 2:09 pm
This is most ridiculous. Part of the draw and the beauty of Chicago is the vibrant and thriving small-venue cultural scene. If this ordinance passes we will lose many great artists and all of the profits they garner. Much less the respect and admiration of many across the nation.
5706. Bradley Wiseman | May 13, 2008 at 2:09 pm
This is yet another example of the city council over-stepping their duty and authority and asserting themselves as a collective parent-figure, misguidedly watching over the residents of the City of Chicago. Like they have with foie gras, seat belts, cell phones and dog shit, the members of the city council continue to make a mockery of local politics, and our tax dollars, by again pursuing legislation not only contrary to the wishes of their constituency but equally detrimental to the health and legitimacy of Chicago’s regional, national and global appeal. The Chicago City Council, if successful in passing this legislation, will further jeopardize this great city’s status as one of the world’s cultural beacons.
While Chicago is undoubtedly a world-class intersection of cultures and cuisines, arts and music, sports and entertainment, architecture and transportation, commerce and manufacturing, technology and innovation, natural beauty and history, it remains a modern metropolis wrought with the problems of a 19th-century transit system and some of the world’s worst gridlock, plagued by horrendous murder rates, widespread poverty and generations of social injustice and contaminated by the most corrupt county government in the United States, more ongoing federal corruption investigations than any other jurisdiction and, yes, a self-righteous and self-congratulatory City Council concerned more with making headlines and making revenue than with making Chicago the greatest exhibition of its inherent cultural riches it can possibly be. Even our once lauded drinking water has been polluted by the manifests of greed, malfeasance and short-sightedness so emblematic of our political leadership and their long, corrupt history of ineptitude.
Despite these deep scars, Chicago remains a vibrant, immutable cultural presence– not only the Midwestern United States, but in the entire world. Surely near the very heart of that presence is our long and storied history of music and art. From the evolution of the Blues to the formation of House music, from Buddy Guy to the guys from Wilco, from Steppenwolf to Second City the myriad of cultural patchworks that form the soul of this great city have come as much from the corner taverns and underground venues of our countless neighborhoods as they have from the great halls and auditoriums that encircle downtown. The proposed legislation directly and maliciously attacks this foundation of art in Chicago by creating unrealistic and burdensome financial and logistical hurdles in the hosting and promotion of small, local art and music events. The enormous barriers to entry set forth in the council’s plan would further hasten the erosion of legitimacy and character in art in the City of Chicago and further empower the conglomerate, corporate forces of mass infotainment to muddy the waters of creative expression with their appeal to the lowest common denominator of audience participation.
We must not let the misguided precautions of an intellectually deficient electorate threaten the fertile landscape of art and expression that has made and continues to make Chicago one of the greatest cities in the world to experience art and, indeed, one of the greatest cities in the world to live.
5707. Jeff | May 13, 2008 at 2:09 pm
I do not support this law as it would alter the terrific music and cultural scene this city has to offer.
5708. Lee Kohler | May 13, 2008 at 2:09 pm
Being an actor and screener for the Chicago Underground Film Festival, this affects me directly. This kind of thing needs to be stopped immediately. This will kill anything cultural left in this city.
5709. Mark M | May 13, 2008 at 2:09 pm
This is part of a trend to limit free expression in many cities. The more hurdles we raise the fewer voices we will hear. Don’t muzzle musicians!
5710. Courtney Cavanaugh | May 13, 2008 at 2:09 pm
If you stifle creativity you might as well stifle freedom of speech. Culture and variety is part of what makes Chicago a fabulous city. I am against the “Event Promoters” ordinance . Please add my electronic signature to the petition. Thank you,
Courtney Cavanaugh
5711. Stefanie S | May 13, 2008 at 2:10 pm
This is a horrible idea when Chicago is known for its improv, its theatre and its events. To enstill so many requirements, costs and laws does nothing to promote Chicago as a great place to live- it will not only lose people who see it as a great place to visit, to live and of course it will lose the appeal in the same way to the locals.
There should be other cheaper ways to handle issues.
5712. Carol Genetti | May 13, 2008 at 2:10 pm
This is completely unacceptable. No to the “promoters ordinance”.
5713. M@ | May 13, 2008 at 2:10 pm
People who visit Chicago are always clamoring on about how clean this city is, how great the people are, and especially how vibrant the music community is.
We need to keep the law as it exists and do a better job of enforcement. Tragic events like E2 don’t have to happen, but legislating the little guy out of creative outlets just SHOULDN’T happen.
You know, if the kids don’t have things to do, they tend to get a little rowdy. Do you want that?
So, why don’t you vote NO, and maybe someone will write a lovely little diddy about how Chicago ALMOST lost the music, but in the end we proved how this GREAT city overcame a short-sighted legislation proposal and kept the music alive!
Come ON!
5714. Shelley Miller | May 13, 2008 at 2:11 pm
As a performer who has chosen to make Chicago my home, I am saddened that this ordinance, in its current state, was even proposed. The E2 tragedy could have been averted if existing laws had been enforced. Now, instead of cracking down on problem venues, the city is punishing promoters (and by extension, performers, patrons, employees and owners) who work with established venues. It takes aim at the heart of this city’s music and theater communities, and carries the real risk of draining the cultural lifeblood of the city. Please vote against this poorly worded, vague and unneeded legislation.
5715. Krystof | May 13, 2008 at 2:11 pm
This is just beyond me , another way of scavenging fines and killing independent arts , as trying to make something of your dream wouldn’t be hard enough…..shame on politicians pushing for this “promoter’s ordinance”……
5716. Scott Ramsayer | May 13, 2008 at 2:12 pm
Keeping the independant arts free from this absurd ordinance is key to keeping Chicago culturally alive.
5717. Heather | May 13, 2008 at 2:12 pm
coming from a young person who still knows much about the chicago music scene, i personally would like to state that this is ridiculous. one of my favorite bands in this universe, fall out boy, would not be here today if these pointless laws existed. i am against these laws 100%
5718. Kelly Reardon | May 13, 2008 at 2:12 pm
As an active participant in the Chicago local music scene I am very against this ordinance!!
5719. Boss Hog | May 13, 2008 at 2:13 pm
Lee Kohler can forget about making it to the big time.
I don’t like this law… rumor has it, its been pulled.
Now back to goofing on Lee.
Give it up Lee and please clear table #31.
5720. shawn hampton | May 13, 2008 at 2:13 pm
city council and mayor – please do not pass this law. as an aspiring musician i feel it will severely limit my ability to perform in front of people. the venues that I would play at are already required to have licenses and insurance. passing a reactionary and vague law like this will not make the people of chicago safer. it will only serve to empty the pockets of those that hope to shape the culture of the city for years to come, and fatten the wallets of the large (not local) companies that are able to afford the licence fees and insurance, and of the insurance companies themselves.
5721. Scott Uppstad | May 13, 2008 at 2:13 pm
Personally, the music scene in Chicago has been one of the few things that have kept my head on straight. What I mean by that is, by writing, playing, and performing infront of people for over 10 years, i have focused my mind on something positive. It’s the music, but not only that, it’s the friendships with others that I have found, it is the passion that I found, it is a place for me to fit in and feel accepted because there was never anything else that made me feel that way. And if you take this away, you’re ruining all of the people and/or kids’ lives that are just like mine. You’re taking away something that is the only important thing in many peoples’ lives. You’ll be taking away what kept me sober for all of my life. Take this away, and you’ll have a city who’s crime rate will surely double without a positive music scene to be involved in.
5722. David Flora | May 13, 2008 at 2:13 pm
When people think of improv, Chicago automatically comes to mind. Improvisational Theatre is a young, burgeoning, legitimate artform, and its roots are buried deep in Chicago’s recent history (some would argue it began here). With every improv show we see or perform in, we are part of history in the making. Improv is about performing in an intimate space, being with the audience, not in front of them. Improv was born in the bars and 30-seat theatres, and Improv lives in those places. The artform is still finding its feet, learning about itself and making its presence known in the rest of the theatre world. Passing an ordinance like this one would be like uprooting a tree and making it try to stand up in a storm.
There was a time and place in history when artistic experimentation and innovation was outlawed, when new, exciting cultural movements had the life choked out of them by the government. As recently as the 1930′s Soviet Union, this type of artistic limiting and cultural censoring has taken place, with horrid results. While this ordinance may not torture violators or sentence them to death by firing squad, it will certainly do the job of placing an iron grip around the neck of not just Improv, but the majority of culture in Chicago. Every band that comes through House of Blues, every artist with a painting in the Art Institute, every actor on Second City’s mainstage came from somewhere. That somewhere won’t exist if this ordinance is passed.
5723. Elie | May 13, 2008 at 2:14 pm
Wow… this is a shocker !! I never expected Chicago to allow something so unreasonable like this to happen! What the heck is going on here people?! This ordinance will destroy the musical and theatrical culture. I Love the variety in this city , and I would hate to see the underground scene come to an end! I visit this great city often, and l want to look forward to more events! PLEASE don’t pass this!!!!!!
5724. Jon Cancelino | May 13, 2008 at 2:14 pm
As a recent graduate from Columbia College Chicago I am appalled to hear this type of news that the city is trying to pass onto the community.
Please do not ruin the good reputation Chicago has for being on the top forefront of the art scene here in the entire Mid-West of the United States.
Thank you!
5725. Rico | May 13, 2008 at 2:15 pm
I strongly oppose the ordinance. The ordinance would destroy the music landscape in Chicago.
5726. josh | May 13, 2008 at 2:15 pm
Nice to see the community pull together like this – I knew all these folks where out here, just needed a catalyst to pull them all together. Kudos folks for making your voices heard!!
5727. Melissa | May 13, 2008 at 2:15 pm
as a resident who patronizes and performs in these venues regularly, I strongly oppose this ordinance and am outraged that the city council would even consider passing it.
5728. Carlos Ruiz | May 13, 2008 at 2:15 pm
This sounds like a knee jerk reactionary measure to a very real tragedy. There are many concerts and Dj’s, that I enjoy seeing, who would be put out of business b/c they are already finanncially strained in their attempts to continually enrich Chicago’s entertainment scene.
While there might be measures taken to ensure the safety of audiences this doesn’t seem to directly address that issue.
I oppose this strongly.
5729. Josh Honn | May 13, 2008 at 2:16 pm
UPDATE!
http://blogs.suntimes.com/derogatis/2008/05/update_promoters_ordinance_tab.html#more
5730. heaven barrett | May 13, 2008 at 2:16 pm
dont close so many doors on so many people..
5731. Jon Resh | May 13, 2008 at 2:16 pm
To members of the Chicago City Council:
I would respectfully propose withdrawing support for this Event Promoter ordinance, the consequences of which will surely be negative for the city, both culturally and economically.
I had originally moved to Chicago more than a decade ago in part because of this town’s superlative and diverse musical output, and excellent cultural offerings overall. My reasoning: any place that was the home to so much good music was probably a place worth living.
My assumptions were correct. As a result, I — as well as many others who’ve been similarly inspired and fulfilled by this city’s homegrown music — have proudly made this town my home, and have happily spent a healthy amount of personal income to enjoy and support the vast array of local venues (many of which are small and independently promoted) that showcase this music.
To stifle such an important and creative part of the local culture — particularly targeting the smaller promoters, venues, artists, etc. — is counterproductive to any city’s well-being, and Chicago’s in particular. Perhaps the city council (or at least members supporting this ordinance) has little sense of the international prestige Chicago possesses for its unique music scene at present, especially the creative adventurousness of artists that play (or start their careers) in smaller venues here.
As best as I can tell, this ordinance would have a terrible effect locally — the fallout of which would surely resonate with our reputation elsewhere in the world, perhaps resulting in Chicago losing its status as an American cultural capital. This could translate to a decline of dollars spent by both residents and visitors in Chicago. Is that really what the city council wants — particularly in these already economically difficult times?
The richness of a city’s life can be measured by any number of attributes. For Chicago, this most certainly includes the smaller, less established facets of its arts scene, from which much of the best music — and culture itself, not to mention our city’s overall identity — is nurtured.
It would thus be in the city council’s interest to protect and promote this local culture. This Event Promoter ordinance, however, would have exactly the opposite effect, limiting and damaging it to the detriment of those who both live in and visit Chicago.
Please act wisely and justly in your role as a council member, and reject this needless, unreasonable ordinance.
Thank you for your consideration.
Jon Resh
Chicago, IL.
5732. Nadia M. Podolsky | May 13, 2008 at 2:16 pm
VOLATL tm [talent management], is my agency, which does some of the most unique and pioneering electronic music events in the US. We do events primarily ion Chicago, but also are involved in parties in Miami and Detroit, where such an ordinance would never be possible. Not only does it hurt the promoters financially and the livelihoods of ingenious musicians,; the ordinance reverts us back to a time when big brother infiltrated the underground.
The city essentially is attempting to double dip, by making liquor tax revenue at bars and clubs and taxing the promoter. I remember a time when this country fostered the arts, especially in a Democrat controlled state. As someone who has put their financial life into the music business, but actually love the music, I can’t justify double charging at the door juts to break even. Music is a passion that bring people together, unifies them, and actually is known to increase the intellectual capacities of children in math and science.
The cultural capital that will be lost if this law passes will be a sad day for Chicago. Why do you think the people of my hometown of New Orleans are working so hard to get the musicians to move back first. Music is what defined eras of history and to limit the ability to freely have music performed in intimate settings will certainly serve to put a choke hold on underground intellectualism and creativity.
Perhaps the security at venues should be trained by the city, so that they don’t spark a riot because of their lack of forethought. Or better yet, people should stop being afraid of what they don’t understand, like electronic music culture, and open their ears to the wonders and passion it invokes in listeners.
Nadia M. Podolsky
Director
VOLATL tm
5733. Erika Labutka | May 13, 2008 at 2:16 pm
Just another example of how our government continues to let the community down. The ordinance is outrageous. They should be so ashamed.
5734. Marc Hausmann | May 13, 2008 at 2:17 pm
Don’t pass this soul-sucking joke.
5735. Aaron Ross | May 13, 2008 at 2:17 pm
Chicago is notorious for its corrupt city governement, the only difference now is that they’re finally unabashed about it.
5736. Christine Skoczylas | May 13, 2008 at 2:17 pm
With all of the problems that Chicago has (public transportation system that is dysfunctional at best, potholes galore, an explosion of violence and murder), the fact that someone on the City Council even proposed, let alone that the Council is actually considering, such an absurd ordinance is reprehensible.
Vote no, aldermen!!
5737. Carol Schultz | May 13, 2008 at 2:18 pm
I’m shocked to hear the city of Chicago would even consider an ordinance such as the one proposed. Music is an integral part of my life and the lives of many, many other city dwellers. Venues such as Schubas, the Hideout, Empty Bottle, and the like have defined this city. We’re the original home of the Blues. We’ve fostered the folk music scene through the Old Town School of Folk Music. We’re a destination for a vast independent scene. Take this away and we’ll be left as a city full of empty stages replaced with tvs and maybe a jute box if we’re lucky.
Seriously Chicago??? One day you’re promoting Looptopia and the next your pulling the arts out from under us? This isn’t the Chicago I’ve grown to know and love. Please take a hard look at what you’re proposing here.
5738. Josh Honn | May 13, 2008 at 2:18 pm
NOTE: The ordinance has NOT been pulled as the front of this page says. It is going back for revisions. It seems that this is not over quite yet. Big ups to Joe Shanahan, Nick Miller, Sean Mulroney and others who met with Schulter today to make this happen!
5739. Rhonda Lewis | May 13, 2008 at 2:19 pm
Artists in the Greater Chicago area have such limited resources as it is, with funding to the arts being cut, being outside of the “loop” or shall i say who you know crew…this ordinance will only add more stress to the artist experience. a vote no from my stand point
5740. Marv | May 13, 2008 at 2:20 pm
The ordinance was apparently tabled and sent back to the City Council today.
http://www.suntimes.com/entertainment/derogatis/946046,CST-FTR-dero13.article
However, we still must remain vigilant against further versions of the measure. Chicago is the best place in the world for sketch comedy and improv, not to mention its wonderful music, dance and fine arts scenes. This ordinance would greatly diminish all of those. Unlike New York and San Francisco, Chicago is a practical place to live, hone your art, bring people together and (hopefully) enrich the community.
5741. Chandra Brown | May 13, 2008 at 2:20 pm
Why is this coming up now? This will not only hurt the venues in Chicago, but the people of this city as well, let alone the artists. This can not and should not be passed. Not now and not ever.
What also needs to be done to get our voice across is everyone needs to call their Alderman and let them know No, via phone calls, emails, and faxes. Let them know to remember we have a voice and we will use that voice come ELECTION TIME.
5742. David Johnson | May 13, 2008 at 2:20 pm
This ordinance is absolutely insane. Just the thought that our city government would even consider dipping into the pockets of our art community makes me uneasy.
1.) City government should not have the right to tax artist’s freedom of expression.
2.) Our city’s tourism industry will most certainly be hurt if city government essentially “bans” independent artists from performing at mid-sized clubs. Whether or not the city council understands this or not, the city of Chicago has one of (if not the best) independent music community in the country. If this ordinance passes, we will certainly have one of the worst.
3.) If our city government is even considering passing this ordinance, it makes me seriously worry about the quality of our city’s financial management. How broke are we that we have to tax people who are obviously poor? These licenses aren’t even slightly affordable to the average working musician.
4.) The velocity at which this ordinance is being voted on, and the fact that it was tried to be flown in under the radar, is equally disturbing.
This ordinance had to be stopped. Hopefully, city government will be responsible enough to take all of these people’s opinions into consideration before voting on this ordinance.
Dave Johnson
Guitar Tech – Avenue N Guitars, Scale Model Guitars
5743. JC Aevaliotis | May 13, 2008 at 2:21 pm
There’s a better way to ensure safe events than this.
5744. stefanie kohn | May 13, 2008 at 2:21 pm
i urge you to vote against this ordinance, not only as an independent musician, but as a citizen of chicago. passing such an ordinance would essentially destroy everything that is so great about living in this city. it would make it virtually impossible for any of the arts to survive. chicago has a strong arts community, but without the ability to put on shows and engage with the community, they will be forced to leave for some place that supports them. it’s hard to imagine that there is any other reason for this proposal than money, but what about the loss of tourism when there are no improv. shows? no poetry slams? no theatre? no live music? please, as representatives of the citizens of this city, do not pass this ordinance.
5745. Andrew | May 13, 2008 at 2:22 pm
Agreed. if you’re bored, get some Magazine Subscriptions> at ValueMags.
5746. Jessica A. | May 13, 2008 at 2:22 pm
Please remember what an amazing art community Chicago has, and what this ordinance will do to it. I am against it completely.
5747. Dennis M. Kelly | May 13, 2008 at 2:24 pm
Praise God, the Power of the PEOPLE WORKS!!
Thanks Theresa and to everyone for stopping this from happening!
What a GREAT and strong community we live in, thats why I LOVE Chicago!!
Have a great day!
5748. Cassandra Peake | May 13, 2008 at 2:26 pm
Please stop the madness. Chicago is famous for it’s rich culture in music, clubs and the arts. They play a major roll in why so many tourist visit Chicago. If the officials are doing what they suppose to and are getting paid to do I agree the E2 and so many other misfortunes wouldn’t happen. Please don’t take away a part of the Chicago Culture because of mere ignorance.
5749. Concerned | May 13, 2008 at 2:26 pm
I just called the city council and my alderman and they said this was still going to vote tomorrow.
5750. Randy | May 13, 2008 at 2:27 pm
DO NOT let up on them even though they’ve tabled the discussion. They can easily slip this in, so the pressure must stay on.
We haven’t saved Chicago’s culture yet. The calls to the aldermen should continue.
5751. Jen | May 13, 2008 at 2:28 pm
I recently heard that Chicago’s live entertainment (music, theater, art, etc.) is considered edgier by far than anything being offered on the East or West coasts.
This ordinance will undue years of striving on the parts of real artists who do not live in mansions or ride around in limos – they, we, are the artists who live to do our craft and will continue to do it no matter what.
Stop this ordinance – but be warned, if anything like this ever passes, Chicago art and culture will go underground even more so than it is now. You can’t stop passion and you can’t stifle our creativity.
Aldermen and women – focus your damn attention elsewhere!
5752. Karla Geissler | May 13, 2008 at 2:30 pm
I stand strongly against this ordinance. Please, for the sake of Chicago musicians and fans, don’t pass it!
5753. Nicholas Barron | May 13, 2008 at 2:31 pm
I’ve been a professional musician in Chicago for 23 years! I am the founder of CASA (THE COALITION FOR THE ADVANCEDMENT OF STREET ART). In 1987, i formed the group with fellow street artists to fight the city who were trying to ban it and with the help of the ACLU and then alderman George Hagopian, we won and created a license and specific locations in The EL and an understanding that in a major cosmopolitan city in America like Chicago it would be a crime to not have the spontaneity and life force of music and art on the street let alone in clubs! The people who would create such limitation are the same people who say that America is the greatest country in the world! NOT WITHOUT LIVE MUSIC AND ART!! YOU SHOULD FEEL EMBARRASSED AND ASHAMED THAT THE BOTTOM LINE IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN CULTURE! The bottom line is going to make us the dullest and inane country on earth. We are the Roman empire. Look at what happened to them!!!
5754. Erica Barnes | May 13, 2008 at 2:31 pm
Please do not pass this ordinance. It will directly impact all arts in the Chicago area. As a new theatre company in this city, this ordinance would not allow us to even begin.
Please say no.
Ward 47
5755. Fantasy | May 13, 2008 at 2:31 pm
You can’t do this! It will ruin everything!!!
5756. A Chicagoan | May 13, 2008 at 2:32 pm
Who exactly is responsible for introducing this terrible
ordinance in the first place?
5757. Zanoni | May 13, 2008 at 2:32 pm
prohibit art by law is equal to paint neutral color on the rainbow.
Our artist answer to this fascist law is make art at street for everywhere, LONG LIFE TO ART AND CULTURE
5758. Sarah Tucker | May 13, 2008 at 2:33 pm
Ridiculous! This proposal is unrealistic, and unfounded.
5759. Johnny's Coffee House | May 13, 2008 at 2:34 pm
As the owner of a small venue in Central Illinois, I realize that most people would think I have little stake in this ordinance. However, passing a law of this type would not only hurt and close down every independant outfit the Windy City has to offer, but will also negatively affect those of us in the rest of the state. Most of the revenue that we have comes from concerts. Most of the concerts come from Chicago. Either the bands who perform here are from Chicago or they are passing through on their way to or from a show there. Without an active music scene, there will be no reason for bands to come through Illinois anymore. Thus, we no longer have shows either. This ordinance has so many ramifications that reach a heck of a lot farther than just the Chicago City Limits. We are with you all Chicago!
5760. Pepe Vargas | May 13, 2008 at 2:35 pm
What is life without cultural and arts: Nothing!
And, who is providing life to Chicago’s cultural scene?. Primarily nonprofit cultural organizaitons, which will not be able to meet the fees and other demands that the new law calls for.
So, I oppose to the passing of this new ordinace!
Pepe Vargas
Founder & Executive Director
International Latino Cultural Center of Chicago
5761. Ahren Okamoto | May 13, 2008 at 2:35 pm
Chicago music is for the masses…this scews the little dudes out there. not cool.
5762. P.T. Murphy | May 13, 2008 at 2:36 pm
Stop the madness! Please don’t let this pass.
5763. Chris M | May 13, 2008 at 2:37 pm
Signed in opposition to the ordinance
5764. Rick Barr | May 13, 2008 at 2:38 pm
The proposed ordinance is overkill. The council’s understandable need is to prevent another E2. But there are already provisions on the books to do that. The council should look to putting more teeth into those existing provisions and enhancing enforcement. The council should also reach out to the many reputable groups whose task it is to promote Chicago’s cultural performing arts heritage for their input on the proposal’s impact on their efforts–some of these groups are partially supported by the city itself. The Mayor’s Office of Special Events is a good example. In its current form, the proposal would impact anyone who organizes events in theatre, dance, arts of all kind, cultural, photographic and architectectural events–not just the live music so many of us are more concerned about. I implore the council to take this measure back into committee and hone it to a finer tool, or do away with it entirely and make the current laws more effective.
5765. Lindsey Marks | May 13, 2008 at 2:40 pm
Scrolling up I just read a comment from an employee of the DCA that ‘the Promoters Ordinance has been pulled from City Council until further research’….this is great news, and I hope that is the case. I work for an arts nonprofit service organization, and am also an independent performer in dance, theatre and music. Quite simply, if this ordinance effected independent promoters the way that it would appear to, I would probably move out of the city because it would no longer be an environment in which I could continue to grow and thrive as an artist, and move towards further growth from a starting point. And this after Illinois has significantly cut funding to the nonprofit arts community over the last couple years? No thank you. It is not easy to promote independent work in this economic environment already, and creating more restrictions of a monetary nature would be crippling. I understand the concerns that prompted this proposal, but it does not seemed to be designed with an understanding of the reality of range of legitimate performance situations that occur, the place of presenting music and performance in people’s lives beyond fulltime career, and with a positive community building goal in mind. Perhaps if the drafting involved the input of those effected (which it obviously doesn’t seem to have done), it would achieve its goals without hurting the performance community. In fact, why not create something that fixes real issues while supporting that community further? That can’t be done without consulting those involved, and respecting the possibility that a mutual goal can be achieved.
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5767. Paul Hazard | May 13, 2008 at 2:47 pm
As written, this law places unnecessary burdens on performers and venues.
5768. Dann | May 13, 2008 at 2:47 pm
This can’t be passed, say no
5769. Mark Walter | May 13, 2008 at 2:48 pm
I am in opposition to this ordinance.
5770. Melanie | May 13, 2008 at 2:50 pm
A lot of great bands have sprung from the Chicago music scene, it’d be a shame to see that chance taken from upcoming bands…
I hope it’s true that the ordinance has been pulled already, but if not: consider this my signature.
5771. Susan Babyk | May 13, 2008 at 2:50 pm
Stop the promoter’s ordinance. I would like the City of Chicago’s City Council to come up with something better than a blanket promoter’s ordinance on Wednesday, May 14,
Chicago’s creative scene really needs to be completely accessible to everyone who legitimately wants to promote an event. I understand the City wanting to regulate ruthless folks, and maybe there could be some other way to screen out the bad guys, but pushing out the little guys isn’t it. The definition of “event promoter” should be clearly defined and should not apply to a band that books its own shows or a theater company that’s in town for a one-week run.
Why does a young musician or actress need to be over 21, get fingerprinted, submit to a background check, and jump over several other hurdles just to get the word out for their event? And it seems to me that the 500+ permanent seat venues are the ones that should be required to have a license to promote their stuff instead of being exempt. Sorry, City Council. You really got it backwards this time and I hope you wake up and rethink this.
5772. Eric Chez | May 13, 2008 at 2:50 pm
I too want to voice my displeasure over this ordinance. If millions of dollars can be spent on a silver kidney bean downtown, the places that support Chicago’s creative scene should be left alone.
5773. Tim Murphy | May 13, 2008 at 2:56 pm
PLEASE do not enact this ordinance. Chicago is unique in the world for its widespread, diverse music scene, a large part of which is the multitude of venues presenting entertainment of all types for often very low prices. If enacted, this ordinance will surely diminish Chicago.
5774. Ashley | May 13, 2008 at 2:57 pm
The last thing we need is more restrictions on expression. What is the purpose? If it is to protect the audience, then why on earth would larger venues be exempt from this ordinance? This seems to be targeting smaller venues and lesser-known acts. Let’s promote and support the arts, particularly those outside the mainstream rather than limit their potential in our city.
5775. Tania Tuttle | May 13, 2008 at 2:58 pm
If you look at the recently passed Performing Arts Venue License, the city made it VERY easy for theaters to apply for and obtain this license. The PAV is for live theaters with under 500 seats. If I understand this correctly…it is only $55.00 for this license and theaters with under 100 seats do not need the PAV at all. However, these venues do not serve alcohol, but I had read that “incidental liquor license” may be allowed. Chicago even allowed theaters to move closer into residential zones. Please note I’m in no way begrudging the theater…but if Chicago made it so easy for theater why make it so difficult for venues/promoters who host bands/live music?
• Cuts red tape – Only limited, necessary back-up documents are required to apply for a PAV. Extensive police background checks, complicated financial documents and other cumbersome supplemental materials will no longer be required. PAVs will be required to report management changes to the city within 60 days instead of the current 10 days.
• Lowers fees – New legislation calls for a flat fee structure of $55 for all theaters up to 500 seats. Under the existing PPA, fees are $1 multiplied by the total number of seats. Non-profit theaters still retain the option to request Aldermanic waiver of fees.
• Doesn’t sweat the small stuff – Theaters under 100 seats that don’t have a mandatory admission charge won’t need to obtain a PAV, although they still require an occupancy card. Theaters in this category will be allowed to collect voluntary donations.
• Carries a shorter application form – The new PAV application is approximately 6 pages. The PPA application was more than 20 pages when discussions first began.
• Brings theaters into more neighborhoods – The new PAV allows any theater up to 500 seats (in aggregate) to locate within 125 feet of a residential zone; currently, only non-profits with 300 seats or less can locate in these zones.
5776. Hannah Ostermann | May 13, 2008 at 2:59 pm
Please vote no for this ordinance… there are better ways to deal with this issue!! It would be so sad if venues like Schubas and Martyrs were not a part of Chicago.
5777. beth r. burnett | May 13, 2008 at 3:00 pm
Please do not kill the heart of Chi.
Beth
5778. Tania Tuttle | May 13, 2008 at 3:00 pm
If you look at the recently passed Performing Arts Venue License, the city made it VERY easy for theaters to apply for and obtain this license. The PAV is for live theaters with under 500 seats. If I understand this correctly…it is only $55.00 for this license and theaters with under 100 seats do not need the PAV at all. However, these venues do not serve alcohol, but I had read that “incidental liquor license” may be allowed. Chicago even allowed theaters to move closer into residential zones. Please note I’m in no way begrudging the theater…but if Chicago made it so easy for theater why make it so difficult for venues/promoters who host bands/live music?
• Cuts red tape – Only limited, necessary back-up documents are required to apply for a PAV. Extensive police background checks, complicated financial documents and other cumbersome supplemental materials will no longer be required. PAVs will be required to report management changes to the city within 60 days instead of the current 10 days.
• Lowers fees – New legislation calls for a flat fee structure of $55 for all theaters up to 500 seats. Under the existing PPA, fees are $1 multiplied by the total number of seats. Non-profit theaters still retain the option to request Aldermanic waiver of fees.
• Doesn’t sweat the small stuff – Theaters under 100 seats that don’t have a mandatory admission charge won’t need to obtain a PAV, although they still require an occupancy card. Theaters in this category will be allowed to collect voluntary donations.
• Carries a shorter application form – The new PAV application is approximately 6 pages. The PPA application was more than 20 pages when discussions first began.
• Brings theaters into more neighborhoods – The new PAV allows any theater up to 500 seats (in aggregate) to locate within 125 feet of a residential zone; currently, only non-profits with 300 seats or less can locate in these zones.
5779. Charles R. Grode | May 13, 2008 at 3:02 pm
As usual, the City’s approach is ‘someone spills ketchup so no ketchup for anyone’…Worse yet, if the City had been doing their job and enforcing health/safety issues and not turning a blind eye to the E2 club’s violations then we wouldn’t be getting this ridiculous knee jerk proposal. If this ordinance passes, I would surely sign a petition for a class action suite against the City for negligence in performing their duties in the E2 incident and for hardship on responsible, law abiding business.
This is just like the sub-prime mortgage crisis – the irresponsible get off the hook and the responsible, prudent end up paying….
5780. patrick gunderson | May 13, 2008 at 3:06 pm
unacceptable and foolish.
5781. cHRISTINA ,dEATH 1334 | May 13, 2008 at 3:07 pm
AS A PROMOTER, i AM OUTRAGED…THIIS CANNOT BE PASSED!!!
5782. david | May 13, 2008 at 3:07 pm
we can not allow this to happen. it will destroy the music scene that many of us love and live for. DIY OR DIE!
5783. Moises Flores | May 13, 2008 at 3:08 pm
The local music and theater scene is what keeps Chicago beautiful! This ordinance cannot pass!
5784. Michelle | May 13, 2008 at 3:10 pm
Vote no to the ordinance – and get yourself to a show to see how CHICAGOANS promote art, culture, and the city itself in all of these very special places. Promoters shouldn’t be telling us who we get to go see play, and they shouldn’t be pressuring small venues to cough up big bucks for acts that don’t fit in these venues anyway.
5785. Andy Oberhausen | May 13, 2008 at 3:11 pm
This is a bad idea.
5786. Lee Russell | May 13, 2008 at 3:11 pm
This cannot be allowed to pass. Anyone with a love for this city will not allow it to be turned into a giant waste of space.
5787. Kate Harvey | May 13, 2008 at 3:14 pm
As someone that “came of age” going to shows at Metro and DoubleDoor…. this is an outrage. Imagine if this ordinance had been in place when the Pumpkins first started as the house band at the Metro… this has to potential to “ruin” bands. Not to mention ruin part of the greatness that comes with being a Chicago music fan.
5788. Milena Zasadzien | May 13, 2008 at 3:14 pm
This ordinance will unfairly punish the small promoters passionate about their music.These are the people that keep music alive, and if you try to kill music and art and Chicago, this city will not be worth living in!
5789. John W. Murphy | May 13, 2008 at 3:15 pm
please do not destroy the theatre system with this terrible act. I live in chicago precisely because of the incredible opportunities for entertainment and to entertain at these small theaters.
5790. HK | May 13, 2008 at 3:17 pm
Live music in small clubs is all I have, please don’t take that away from me!
5791. Richard S. | May 13, 2008 at 3:18 pm
Save Chicago may have it’s info wrong. I just called my alderman’s office and they said yes the vote is still on! Also this is the 2nd time this proposal has come up and it’s likely the forces behind this proposal will bring it up yet agin so it is important we voice our opposition!
Call your alderman NOW! write ALL aldermen!
bdoherty@cityofchicago.org, mlaurino@cityofchicago.org,
ward47@cityofchicago.org, plevar@cityofchicago.org,
wbanks@cityofchicago.org, ward32@cityofchicago.org,
poconnor@cityofchicago.org, jmoore@cityofchicago.org,
bstone@cityofchicago.org, emitts@cityofchicago.org,
bocasio@cityofchicago.org, ward30@cityofchicago.org,
ehsmith@cityofchicago.org, wburnett@cityofchicago.org,
rmunoz@cityofchicago.org, dsolis@cityofchicago.org,
Robert.Fioretti@cityofchicago.org, mzalewski@cityofchicago.org,
Pat.Dowell@cityofchicago.org, tpreckwinkle@cityofchicago.org,
JoAnn.Thompson@cityofchicago.org, flyle@cityofchicago.org,
eburke@cityofchicago.org, Toni.Foulkes@cityofchicago.org,
lrthomas@cityofchicago.org, lhairston@cityofchicago.org,
vrugai@cityofchicago.org, ward21@cityofchicago.org,
jpope@cityofchicago.org, Sandi.Jackson@cityofchicago.org,
caustin@cityofchicago.org, ward35@cityofchicago.org
5792. Gerald Desrouleaux | May 13, 2008 at 3:22 pm
As new promotor in the city of chicago ive given the people of the city a chance to get out and enjoy life after work is all done new artist the option to be seen in a club or any other indoor promoted spot other then on the train in the streets.
5793. Clare Briggs | May 13, 2008 at 3:23 pm
Do not punish artists and musicians.
I am in full opposition to this ordinance. I trust that you will listen to your Chicago residents and revise this authoritarian piece of legislation.
5794. Brian Skipworth | May 13, 2008 at 3:23 pm
As a recording engineer and musician, this ordinance is tantamount to being run out of town. As a current student at Columbia College, this would dampen the prospects of hundreds of my classmates pursuing careers in the music community here.
It is a welcome relief to hear of the recall from vote of this ordinance, but we need to keep up the pressure and make the lasting impression on our local government that any action of this sort is unacceptable. It is in the city’s best interest to foster the grass roots art community, which often means simply allowing it to grow and flourish uninterrupted.
Cheers to all who spoke out and voiced their concerns!
5795. Dan Lombardi | May 13, 2008 at 3:24 pm
I oppose this ordinance. Please prevent it from passing. Chicago’s music scene is alive – don’t kill it.
5796. Elise | May 13, 2008 at 3:25 pm
Make Chicago open to the little guys too!
5797. Carin | May 13, 2008 at 3:25 pm
Vote No!!!!!!
5798. Sonny Blake | May 13, 2008 at 3:27 pm
This ordinance is designed to discourage music. It’s as if the Blue Meanies came to life and took the form of Chicago aldermen. What evil son-of-a-bitch came up with the idea for this ordinance, anyway?
5799. Elisabeth Johnson | May 13, 2008 at 3:27 pm
This ordinance is outrageous. It is downright unconstitutional on many levels. It is a pity that musicians and artists are slowly losing ownership of their trade. We have invested our time, training, money for our art, many of us college degreed within our field!!!! We deserve the same amount of respect say a doctor or plumber receives. That basic,essential priviledge includes small business enterprise and free trade. We offer a service in which we deserve the freedom to work with and collaborate with other businesses and professionals without interference and be remunerated for our skills just like any other tradesman. We pay our taxes.
Business aside, what about playing music for music’s sake?
Let us not forget our constitutional rights; especially freedom of speech and expression! A complicated mess an ordinance such as this brings, will stifle the art communities voice. One should remember that music and art are the most sublime of expression in that they celebrate our cultural and socioeconomic diversities and identities; They are a direct reflection and reaction of our times, and communicate ideas that often times transcend words. We should be able to do this where and how we please. Love, “Shostakovich”
5800. Amy Ganser | May 13, 2008 at 3:28 pm
Wow, this is a case of politicians not thinking things thru. Or not thinking at all. If promoters (as in bands, performers, theater troupes, staged readings, etc) cannot afford to entertain at legitimate independent venues, they will do so “underground.” So even if this is an attempt to make the entertainment scene in Chicago less “dangerous,” the consequences will surely be more so. But this is not about safety. It is about putting more money into the corrupt city government.
But even if money is what the city wants, this plan will fail on the financial front too. The businesses affected will be feel major economic loss. Artists who would travel to Chicago and spend their money at shops or restaurants will no longer be able to afford to come here. Will Uptown’s theaters remain afloat without independent, self-promoting troupes? Will the city’s vast array of unique and noteworthy music clubs in Lakeview or West Town be able to book acts of creative substance and affordability?
Or will the Olympic athletes who stay here in 2016 be limited to Maroon 5 at the United Center and miss local authentic Chicago at Buddy Guy’s Legends?
If this ordinance is passed, enforced and is as effective as the community fears, Chicago will be forever changed, forever wounded, forever lost.
5801. Dr. Chuck Polumbo | May 13, 2008 at 3:30 pm
Passing this ordinance will obliterate a rich music scene that defines Chicago for so many people, myself included. I agree that there are some shady promoters out there doing things the wrong way – that does not warrant a blanket policy like this. This ordinance is the equivalent of treating a paper cut with amputation. Do not let this pass…
5802. Allison McDonald | May 13, 2008 at 3:35 pm
You can’t do this. Music venues are one of the few places people can go to get the only culture that they want to be involved in. Requiring licenses will not only stop people from coming to Chicago to see a band [and possibly make a weekend trip in doing so], but it could cause people to move out as well, and I’m sure that you wouldn’t want to have either of those happen.
You can’t take this away. To some people, it’s the only thing that they have. And in taking it away, they will move to a place that is more accepting of their fine arts community.
5803. Greg Spero | May 13, 2008 at 3:37 pm
The citizens of chicago who will be effected by this would gladly draft through a thoughtful, mutually beneficial agreement. This should be adequately publicized, and worked through by officials of the various music communities.
5804. AM | May 13, 2008 at 3:38 pm
Not only is this ordinance wrong for city culture, as a professional musician, I think it is plain immoral. Voting in favor of this ordinance by the looks of it will threaten the livelihoods of thousands of people, myself included. Isn’t it bad enough that we’ve had to deal with otherwise successful gigs being canceled due to hyper-eared neighbors who think a jukebox is too loud, but now this? Is the end goal here to shut out entertainment venues altogether? Inadvertent or not, please stop treating musicians like criminals. We pay taxes, too.
5805. Tina Giles | May 13, 2008 at 3:41 pm
I strongly oppose the ordinance. Say no. For the sake of Chicago musicians and fans, do not pass it.
5806. Katie S. | May 13, 2008 at 3:41 pm
The fact that this is even being considered is ridiculous. Music and theatre are one of the main things that makes Chicago, Chicago. If you take away the music, you take the life away from Chicago. It will affect the youth of those who live in Illinois. I should know; I’m only a teenager and the arts have already affected my life in a major way.
Stop trying to ruin the way things are!
5807. kjirstin leach | May 13, 2008 at 3:42 pm
I oppose this ordinance; if passed this will only eradicate the diverse music scene which is fueled by real talent and passion… seriously wtf are you people thinking?
5808. George Hubbard | May 13, 2008 at 3:42 pm
You’ve got to be kidding me. Is there currently a problem with the safety of performances in Chicago? I moved to this city soley for its ease of performing in small venues. Don’t ruin a good thing!!
5809. Evan Lee | May 13, 2008 at 3:43 pm
Yeah, as someone who is in the arts, I find this ridiculous as well. I mean, No, lets not spend money on, I dunno, cleaning up the streets, or stopping criminals, or helping people out in Darfur, no no lets try and put a license on MUSIC and COMEDY clubs?? CAN YOU IMAGINE?? Who’s idea was this?? Malarkey I tell ya…MALARKEY!
5810. Nick Burica | May 13, 2008 at 3:46 pm
We are lucky enough to have a collection of venues in chicago that bypass ticketmaster in order to save music fans money, but now this. I have heard 100′s of bands because I can afford to pay 5 to 15 bucks to go to a show but if this passes tickets prices will go up and I no longer feel like I will be seeing as much music as usual. Also, we are fortunate enough that many bands feel Chicago is important enough to stop by on a tour but if this passes many bands will be bypassing Chicago. A large number of bands already pass over Chicago and just do shows in NY and LA and I fear that number may go up. Please do not due this to my/our scene.
5811. Ryan McManus | May 13, 2008 at 3:50 pm
To the city council that will be voting on behalf of its constituents,
Please vote “no” to this ordinance. Live music and theatre are part of what makes this city great for its residents and visitors. This is exactly the type of thing that impedes growth and sends businesses and creative individuals elsewhere. I implore you to vote “No” and keep the city an important cultural destination.
Regards,
Ryan McManus
5812. Maureen Brogan | May 13, 2008 at 3:52 pm
Please don’t let this happen.
5813. david gebhart | May 13, 2008 at 3:53 pm
Who would benefit from this? Are a few dollars more in city fees really worth the risk this poses to our vibrant cultural climate?
Who of you has taken the time to call your alderman & voice your opposition? Take a moment:
http://www.chicityclerk.com/citycouncil/alderman/find.html
5814. Derek | May 13, 2008 at 4:00 pm
One of the things that has attracted me to Chicago for years has been its eclectic music scene. Aside from the city’s own scene, I’ve always been drawn to the power Chicago has at pulling in bands from around the world who only play a few shows in the States every year.
By putting such an ordnance in effect, a lot of that allure of the city will be gone which will hurt us in the end.
And the fact that it stretches to outlets beyond music really puts a nail in Chicago’s cultural scene.
Anyone who appreciates the culture and live entertainment options available in the city should certainly be up in arms over this.
5815. Joyce Yang | May 13, 2008 at 4:04 pm
Chicago is the birthplace of house music, and where many hip-hop, jazz and other artists have grown to help establish Chicago as town where real music is made. Restrict the artist and you restrict the art.
5816. Tom Fairbank | May 13, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Please do not pass this ordinance. It places too high of a burden on performing artists.
5817. Andrea Faught | May 13, 2008 at 4:15 pm
Just in case this isn’t over, I am still adding my name. This ordinance would be devastating to the city of Chicago and to the people who travel here to enjoy its rich culture. Please do not let this ordinance pass.
5818. Tyler Angelo | May 13, 2008 at 4:20 pm
This ordinance would be a terrible choice for Chicago. The city needs the little places like the Metro. Sentimental value among others, DO NOT PASS!
5819. Bodan Ferguson | May 13, 2008 at 4:20 pm
Chicago is the crossroads of mucial culture and the birthplace of countless artists and styles. To remain an incubator of such diversity, and to retain the economic stimulus that accompanies such culture, please do not pass (or resurrect) the ordinance as originally published prior to May 13th, 2008.
5820. THREAT | May 13, 2008 at 4:21 pm
What’s Next??? Will we need a license to breath air. . .how much did the major labels pay you guys for this, Huh??? If anything like this ever becomes talked about again. . .then these politicians should go on a permanent vacation. . .VOTE THESE SCUMBAGS OUT OF OFFICE!!!! They wonder why the youth is so messed up, & turn to illegal acts, not only do they take jobs away (promoting shows & other related jobs), but they favor the major labels that promote the BULLSHIT ‘music’. . . .Are you guy Hypocrites or what?!?!?
Lyrical THREAT
5821. Angelic Crook | May 13, 2008 at 4:22 pm
I oppose this ordinance – it stifles the artistic community that Chicago is known for!!!
5822. Dave Sills | May 13, 2008 at 4:22 pm
Wow, I just came to sign my name to help stop it and the top of the page says the ordinance has been pulled! Stay vigilant in case it’s reintroduced in another form.
5823. J. Kuch | May 13, 2008 at 4:22 pm
I’m going to promote a chapagne Jam if anyone is interested.
We’ll have fireworks, all types of beer, and all the music you can put your INDEPENDENT heads around. That’s the Chicago the 90′s punks told me about, I hear it was swell.
City Hall,
Please unzip, pull, swallow and enjoy.
Very truly yours,
J. Kuch
5824. Eben English | May 13, 2008 at 4:22 pm
While this ordinance may have the safety of Chicago citizens in mind, it goes way to far and would impose an incredible burden on independent promoters and performers.
The independent spirit that characterizes the city’s music, art, and theater scenes is one of the biggest reasons why Chicago has such a vibrant performing arts culture. To fetter it through this overly restrictive ordinance would have disastrous consequences.
The economic growth and revival of city neighborhoods is directly related to the presence of a thriving artistic element (see Wicker Park). This ordinance would impede that growth.
Eben English
Musician
Logan Square
5825. Jessica Flannery | May 13, 2008 at 4:26 pm
Chicago politicians should be helping the local arts scene thrive instead of forcing talent to move elsewhere. It will be a sad day when only the wealthy and established can consider Chicago home because of thoughtless laws.
5826. Mark Holden | May 13, 2008 at 4:26 pm
Keep creativity, art, and soul without tax. Chicago is culturally strong and implementation of this ordinance will hault this city’s creative process and then every neighborhood would become a slum.
5827. Lindsey Maino | May 13, 2008 at 4:27 pm
Please vote NO to this ordinance!
5828. Jessica King | May 13, 2008 at 4:30 pm
Wow. When I first heard about this on the All Time Low message board upset would not justify my feelings on this, and that’s saying a lot considering I don’t even live in Chicago! How could something like this even be considered? It’s appalling and if something like this was happened a few years ago we wouldn’t have some of the great artists that we have today.
5829. JOHUA RAMOS | May 13, 2008 at 4:36 pm
PLEASE DO NOT DO THIS. MOST OF THE MUSICIANS IN CHICAGO WILL BE FORCED TO LEAVE IF THIS LAW IS PASSED. MY LIVELYHOOD DEPENDS ON THIS. THIS IS A BAD HORRIFYING IDEA! VOTE AGAINST THIS ORDINANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
5830. Nicole | May 13, 2008 at 4:42 pm
I am totally against this, Chicago is the only good place around her to listen to music!!!! and its so versatile…they have all music for all ages and genres!!
5831. Lily | May 13, 2008 at 4:44 pm
Why would the city board consider removing one of the greatest characteristics of the city? The thriving live music culture lies at the root of Chicago’s rich history. What’s next, taking on the Blues? It is a ridiculous ordinance with severe consequences. Stop it. Keep the culture in Chicago. I vote NO!
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5833. Jack Swain | May 13, 2008 at 4:47 pm
The matter is not over, they are simply going back to the drawing board to find a another (perhaps sneakier) way to implement it. Stay alert and if any of this is passed, spread the word to remove these representatives who have violated your trust. If cerain parts of these provisions are passed there will be an outcry concerning the constitutionality. If you want an eye-opener, actually read the bill in the pdf posted in the links at the top. Whoever wrote this bill is more than simply misinformed, this document is heinous.
5834. Karel | May 13, 2008 at 4:48 pm
Aren’t there any real problems to solve in this city? Is making it harder to organize events that bring people together really a priority to local politicians? As an international post-graduate music performance student, I’m regularly quite surprised about my impressions in the land that portraits itself as the world’s greatest protector of freedom… Happy to see that at least I’m not alone!
5835. Mary Jo McMahon | May 13, 2008 at 4:51 pm
This is upsetting. I hope this stupid idea never comes up again .
5836. Seth Gershberg | May 13, 2008 at 4:51 pm
The city, being ineptly managed financially, is looking for ways to expand revenue as tax receipts tumble and debt continues to increase. Looking to license promoters is a desperate attempt to raise funds. The impact of which would certainly backfire as events would just move “more” underground and the activity would be criminalized, and certainly lead to an expensive legal battle. Perhaps the city should open up more public spaces free of charge and encourage the artistic creativity that is strong in Chicago. Chicago should look to other progressive cities like Mexico City where funds are funneled into large scale public artistic endeavors that drive tourism and therefore raise tax receipts.
5837. Steve Stocks | May 13, 2008 at 5:01 pm
This is just another form of the abuse of power that has gone on in Chicago forever! While we usually see it in the bigger issues, it’s now starting to populate down to effecting the common Joe. Being a musician myself this bill makes me sick, but as a citizen of Chicago, I feel worse.
5838. Kirsten Herrin | May 13, 2008 at 5:03 pm
I oppose this ordinance.
5839. Caitlin Boyd | May 13, 2008 at 5:05 pm
Don’ t eliminate the music in Chicago! This will only reduce new bands getting into the professional music business. Which will eventually make all music around the world stop because of lack of hope and lack of people new to the scene. Also, if there’s less music this may sound weird but it will increase school dropout rates and suicide rates. So just don’t!!!!!
5840. Jennifer Lang | May 13, 2008 at 5:05 pm
As a twenty-year Chicago-resident and life long supporter of the local music scene, I find it appalling that the city council would try and limit individual’s self-expression like this. I love Millennium Park and the new amphitheater, but how can we promote free outdoor music and then condemn the individuals who try and make that happen?
5841. BADP | May 13, 2008 at 5:09 pm
This just goes to show us again, that nothing is safe anymore, not even culture, when it comes to the corrupt, out-of-touch city officials’ hunger for money. And in case you still lived in a dreamworld and you are only now beginning to really open your eyes to see the harsh reality, if you haven’t been screwed well enough and often enough to wake up, … Well…. Good Morning!
And if you’re still wondering… Your freedoms and rights are not ignored anymore, they are already gone… looong gone…
just an other starving artist.
5842. Elizabeth Kaiser | May 13, 2008 at 5:13 pm
Vote no.
5843. Kenny | May 13, 2008 at 5:18 pm
How can the city support events like Looptopia, Only to back hand its arts community with an ordinance that would destroy the purity of the fringe artists?
Vote NO for this ordinance. You can’t have a true arts scene without the starving, poor, theatre companies and musicians who are constantly pushing the envelope to keep their respective art form thriving.
5844. Sam | May 13, 2008 at 5:23 pm
Passing this ordinance would put a quick end to Chicago’s cultural history. Chicago has always been a mecca for lesser-known musicians from a wealth of genres. These people do not have the financial assets to comply with such an ordinance and its passing would destroy a community practically overnight.
5845. Joe Wolfe | May 13, 2008 at 5:28 pm
Chicago thriving and diverse musical culture should not be hampered by politically motivated bureaucracy and corporate special interests. This attempted ordinance is a sham.
5846. Timothy Whalen | May 13, 2008 at 5:32 pm
This ordinance goes against the very heart and soul of Chicago! Live theatre and music represent a primary and defining element of this great city, and they must be preserved. VOTE NO!!!!!
5847. Ben Robertson | May 13, 2008 at 5:36 pm
Hell no! That’s one of the craziest things I’ve heard, and it would be crippling. One of the greatest things about Chicago (there’s lots) is the number of shows, many of them at smaller venues that we get to go to. Can’t imagine who decided to pass this, or why – just glad it’s not going through!!
5848. Chris Rogala | May 13, 2008 at 5:37 pm
I guess I’ll move to Naperville along with everyone else now…Bummer…
5849. Emily Mark | May 13, 2008 at 5:44 pm
Congratulations on getting the ordinance pulled! I am a young artist and a great lover of music myself; the independent music scene and non-equity theatre are part of the heart and soul of Chicago. Let’s keep it alive!
5850. Krystle Gemnich | May 13, 2008 at 5:45 pm
Unacceptable.
5851. Spencer Blake | May 13, 2008 at 5:54 pm
This is an affront to every Chicagoan.
5852. Amy | May 13, 2008 at 5:55 pm
I absolutely think this is horrible. If it wasn’t for Chicago, bands like Fall Out Boy wouldn’t even exist for goodness sake. This is insane.
5853. Rory Mach | May 13, 2008 at 5:58 pm
Please do not pass.
5854. gabriela | May 13, 2008 at 5:59 pm
How can you cut down the major music hub of the midwest? How does that benefit a city founded on vibrant culture?
5855. Sara K | May 13, 2008 at 6:01 pm
PLEASE dont let this happen. Everything seems amazing as it is
5856. Paul | May 13, 2008 at 6:10 pm
As a musician, how can a band play a show for people and not be able to promote it. Thats insane!! I seriously oppose this ordinance.
5857. caroline | May 13, 2008 at 6:11 pm
It is sad that we must write a petition to save what should be our natural right… to celebrate and enjoy life through music and art. As a performer, I hope that this struggle never occurs again, but seeing the rallied support of so many gives me hope that we can overturn any negativity in the future!
5858. Traci S Hartley | May 13, 2008 at 6:14 pm
I live in Lincoln Square, where musicians and artists often do impromptu shows, and give dance lessons in Giddings Plaza; where people can stop and watch while strolling in the evening. I am often involved in small plays where friends are putting their own money up and missing work to make it happen and struggle to create their vision on a meager scale AND SUCCEED! Please do deafen these inspirational and diverse voices that give so much to Chicago’s reputation as a culturally rich, varied, tolerant, and experimental city. Where there is more opportunity for one to try new creative endeavors than even New York City herself.
5859. Hugo Rosado | May 13, 2008 at 6:20 pm
As a sketch comedian I get up on stage to make people laugh, not for recognition, not for fame, that does not interest me. I do it because many of us out there survive hardships and learn about ourselves through laughter. Please don’t kill that, and rob us of the chance to reach out to people.
5860. Stephanie | May 13, 2008 at 6:25 pm
I am a freelance stage manager and work for a lot of the ‘little guys.’ If this ordinance passes, not only will I not be able to find work, but the public will be deprived of a lot of excellent entertainment, diverse art forms, and culture. We can’t let that happen.
5861. Robin Croke | May 13, 2008 at 6:35 pm
You can’t destroy Chicago. don’t pass this ordinance! that’s not a request that’s a demand.
5862. Karl Smith | May 13, 2008 at 6:38 pm
How asinine to even consider passing something like this.
5863. Daniel Kulak | May 13, 2008 at 6:44 pm
thats stupid idea, chicago is the city of music and I love that, killing that by peaople that suppousted take care of whats going on here… is like act of terror. I can bet thats all about money.. shame..
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5865. rebecca ann rakstad | May 13, 2008 at 6:46 pm
lame chicago, very lame.
5866. Joenell Dietmeyer | May 13, 2008 at 7:08 pm
Makes no sense at all! Too many rules makes for a very boring place to live – and messing with city culture????
5867. Jennifer Berman | May 13, 2008 at 7:11 pm
Copy of message sent to Waguespack–by the way, WHO sponsored this???
As an executive in Chicago and a supporter of both the live music and theater communities, please add my voice to the concern over this COMPLETELY unnecessary piece of legislation. While the council’s concern for our well-being is admirable, I would hope that they could shift their focus to things that are actually needed by their constituents—solutions to problems with our transportation and school systems, crime and other less “interesting” topics that I know must not be as challenging for the group to deal with as legislating musicians and the theater community out of business. I know I shook my head and said that I wished the group would find something else to mess with other than our restaurant community when the foie gras debacle was enacted but this is ridiculous!
Regards,
Jennifer L Berman, JD, SPHR
5868. George | May 13, 2008 at 7:22 pm
Your headline (“We Did it…!) is a bit misleading, or it was, anyway… I was in a hurry earlier, and, after receiving an email from the empty bottle about the ordinance I quickly checked this site and saw the celebratory headline and went “Oh… cool” and logged off… it took Chicago Tonight to make me go “huh?” and check back here… Down with the ordinance, but be careful with your phrasing for the sake of us skimmers… keep up the good work.
5869. Daniel Yadron | May 13, 2008 at 7:23 pm
I am absolutely speechless. Either the council is so moronically out of touch they do not understand the effect the ordinance would – not could – have, or…they’re evil. One might even say diabolical – think Dameon meets pre-Christmas Eve Ebenezer Scrooge.
I believe the community has listed overwhelmingly sufficient support for such a characterization above.
Sincerely,
Daniel Yadron
5870. Jim Kompare | May 13, 2008 at 7:26 pm
Down with the ordinance.
5871. amy lowe | May 13, 2008 at 7:35 pm
There are many talented artists in Chicago and many great performers that pass through. What makes this city so rich in culture is the fact that in every neighborhood there are venues , street fairs, theaters, etc. that offer a variety of performance options. WE can never the richness Chicago’s entertainment scene disappear from the fabric of Chicago ” home of the BLues” This rediculous, bureaucratic, un-though- out poorly planned ” Ordinance .” is completely and absolutley unnecessary for the “betterment ” of the city of Chicago. Chicago is a weath of diverse entertainment opportunities that attracts a wide range of people .Let it continue.
Amy Lowe
5872. bmh | May 13, 2008 at 7:37 pm
As previously stated, this is ridiculous. I’m sure the city of Chicago can put their (our) money to better use.
Please completely forget about this ordinance.. Obviously passing it would just lead to people having illegal concerts.
5873. Slow Hand | May 13, 2008 at 7:44 pm
Knee jerk reaction where gov’t officials pass new laws to give the impression that they’re responsive to our safety. What they need to do is enforce the laws currently in place. Had that been done E2 would not have happened.
5874. Giga | May 13, 2008 at 8:04 pm
we are a Major Group Based here in chicago and would be glad to show up to any meetings to protest this ordinances.
this is just an other way for the mayor/aldermans to screw the little people that Built this city
THIS IS OUR CITY THEY WORK FOR US!
5875. E. Lambert | May 13, 2008 at 8:07 pm
This ordinance is asinine. Please do not let it pass.
5876. Jessi Langsen | May 13, 2008 at 8:08 pm
I’m voting absolutely not. Chicago has had a thriving independent music scene for decades and the value of that reputation alone has brought the city millions more dollars than this alleged ordinance could hope for (although my guess is that it would COST the city money in the end). 32nd Ward says NO.
5877. Skyler Murphy | May 13, 2008 at 8:10 pm
This ordinance will just be the first step in ruining this great city.
5878. The Undeniable aka Robbert J. Bricker | May 13, 2008 at 8:12 pm
i am so very, very glad to see this shite was pulled.
it is good to know that sometimes in this country, we the people, still have a little power.
ps: kudos to gary & flesh hungry dog for making this situation known on a national level. you rock and so does chicago!!!
peace
5879. Jeff | May 13, 2008 at 8:13 pm
Once again, the knuckleheads coming up with this idea have their eyes on the wrong prize. Typical.
5880. Judy Schmitt Zollner | May 13, 2008 at 8:13 pm
Restrictions on street performers in 2006, now this. One might be lead to believe that the city of Chicago doesn’t appreciate its cultural artists. That isn’t true, now is it?????
Let’s hope the reworked ordinance focuses on real issues and doesn’t simply serve to penalize an entire industry.
5881. Greg stark | May 13, 2008 at 8:14 pm
i love the chicago music scene especially the small venues their like my home away from home
the music scene is keeping plenty of people from getting into trouble
i vote no on this ordinanc
5882. Jeff | May 13, 2008 at 8:14 pm
Once again, the knuckleheads coming up with this idea have their eyes on the wrong prize. Typical.
How about we access you fees for wasting taxpayers’ money on these dumb ideas?
5883. HONEY BLO | May 13, 2008 at 8:20 pm
YOU KNOW IT IS SO MANY BROTHER, SISTER WORKING HARD. TO MAKE THERE MUSIC. TO BUY FOOD , BREAD, TO HAVE SOME MONEY TO KEEP THEM FEELING GOOD.WHEN YOU STOP THAT YOU STOP THE FOOD ON EVERY BODY TABLE.STOP THINKING ABOUT YOUR FAT SELF,LEAVE THE GREAT ,HARD WORKING ARTIST ALONG. THAT WHY SO MANY PEOPLE ARE GETING HURT. OTHER PEOPLE TAKING FROM THERE TABLE. FROM HONEY BLO RECORDS.
5884. Leroy Turknett | May 13, 2008 at 8:41 pm
While I don’t live in Chicago, I would hate to hear this ordinance had passed. I live in the Tampa Bay area, and we have lots of local performers and entertainers here and would hate for something like that to happen around here. Good Luck Chicago!!!
5885. meg | May 13, 2008 at 8:53 pm
i am glad to learn the hearing has been postponed, now lets hope it won’t even come to a vote.
so many of my friends are involved in the chicago music scene and some of my fondest memories are in the very establishments that are being threatned.
music is such a vital part to the city, to its culture and heritage. these laws would make it virtually impossible for upcoming bands to be given the chances they need or for touring bands to come to the city.
i can’t believe that this law was even thought to be a good idea. why don’t we address real issues at hand in the city and leave the music scene alone?
5886. Scott | May 13, 2008 at 9:24 pm
I am an audio engineer working mostly in smaller venues. I also am a local venue supporter, as well as an avid local music supporter and this ordinance really touches more than just a recreational nerve. I depend on the local music scene for my livelyhood. Therefore if this ordinance passes it will negatively effect everybody remotely connected to Chicago’s music scene just to make a little extra money.
5887. Meisie | May 13, 2008 at 9:31 pm
This ordinance should be killed. The broad definition of ‘event promoter’ seems designed to simply pad the city’s pockets with the license fees…as if the hundreds of musicians and venues who work hard for a living here could pay them anyway. And that much liability insurance? While a decent event promoter should carry some, requiring that much is a sign that we have become WAY too litigious. Save the music and Chicago’s culture!!
5888. nate! | May 13, 2008 at 9:51 pm
they are simply out of their minds!
5889. Rebecca | May 13, 2008 at 9:54 pm
Absurd. This mustn’t be passed. As someone already frustrated by Chicago’s bureaucratic money-grabbing and consequently considering permanent residence elsewhere, this measure leads me to believe this is not the kind of city I want to call home.
5890. alison eichhorn | May 13, 2008 at 9:55 pm
please, city council, reconsider this measure.
music is an outlet for so many individuals. the underground and independent music scene is what chicago is known for–do you really want to take that title away from this city?
i am a public school teacher. year after year funding problems and budget cuts threaten the arts in our schools. it is frustrating to even think that the passing of this ordinance threatens the arts outside of our schools.
my students need a place to play. to perform. to let their creativity run free. it isnt always possible to do this in the classroom. the underground music scene in chicago allows them to do this. please. do not take this away from them.
vote no.
5891. Kimiko Ostrozovich | May 13, 2008 at 10:01 pm
I strongly disagree with the proposed ordinance. It is not a real solution to the problem it seeks to fix. Instead of thoughtfully considering the situation and working to create a specific and applicable solution, it casts a wide net in the hopes that this ordinance has to be all-encompassing enough to cover future problematic events. It strikes me as a terribly lazy move, which will do much more harm than good. I enjoy living in this city. One major reason is that I’m proud of Chicago’s music and theater communities. Not only are there compelling events to attend every day of the week, but many performances are extremely affordable or free. Please think long and hard about this ordinance. Do not take away these vital encounters with art and culture that so many people in this city love.
5892. Bret Renaud | May 13, 2008 at 10:06 pm
Deplorable!
5893. joe dolan | May 13, 2008 at 10:09 pm
????????? how can you pass something like this .is music not ones own freedom off expression . is freedom not what this country is about . wake up your killing the individual person.
5894. Justin Moser | May 13, 2008 at 10:18 pm
Music and art in chicago is the heartbeat, the blues, punk, rock. So many things in one place make it the great city that it is. KEEP THE MUSIC!!!
5895. COURTNEY | May 13, 2008 at 10:19 pm
I love music.
as I am sure the majority of the people on this website do.
If the chicago culture of music is destroyed thousands of thousands of peoples’ hearts will be broken including mine. this is wrong. =[
5896. Todd Boyce | May 13, 2008 at 10:22 pm
This ordinance is a terrible idea and it would cripple the Chicago music scene. Being an active performer and part of the Chicago music scene, I value the ability to go see and play live music any night of the week at any of the various clubs and venues around the city. Everyone call their alderman in the morning and lets put a stop to this. If you can go down to city hall at 9:30 AM (the vote is at ten) go and do it. Let’s raise up against this. It is not right!
5897. Diana | May 13, 2008 at 10:23 pm
i don’t understand why they would think about passing an ordinance like this. i think it that it is simply stupid.
5898. Alyse Flood | May 13, 2008 at 10:26 pm
Please dont pass this ordinance. Its unfair to every music lover in the chicagoland area.
5899. Billy Watson | May 13, 2008 at 10:35 pm
Completely ridiculous! Par for the course for our upstanding Windy City politicians. They’ll definitely have a fight on their hands if they press this issue
5900. Etta Karth | May 13, 2008 at 10:45 pm
I moved away from Chi-town a while ago, but miss the band scene tremendously. I live for the times I get to visit the mainland and spend time in the music scene downtown. There is no way this rediculousness will happen. There are just too many of us from too many places that won’t let it happen.
Rock on.
5901. jc | May 13, 2008 at 10:52 pm
I love the small venues in Chicago. Please do not pass this ordinance!
5902. Sophie A | May 13, 2008 at 11:01 pm
I understand you’re trying to make the ordinance for the safety of the audience, but this is a poor way of doing it. Please think of something better. Vote no for this ordinance!!!
5903. Tony M | May 13, 2008 at 11:04 pm
absolutely ridiculous that they want to shut out the local scene like that. NO NO NO! lets stop this dead in its tracks from happening
5904. Justin | May 13, 2008 at 11:28 pm
Wow…this is quite the anti-competitive move…I can’t think of a bolder effort to put an end to smaller entertainment/promotions companies and artists/musicians…good to see that this is meeting with strong opposition from the community…
5905. Sarah Marie Young | May 13, 2008 at 11:40 pm
I oppose this ordinance with every music fiber in my being
- my entire being.
I hear the ordinance is going back to the drawing board. If it should go anywhere, it should go in the trash can.
I am appauled at the lengths they went through to create it, with little to no thought of the large scale effect it would have on the local music scene, and the numerous styles and roles live music plays in Chicago!
5906. Brendan C | May 13, 2008 at 11:44 pm
This is just a hair brained money making plot because the city cant find any other taxes to hike and take our money
Now the are just going after people making money that they Tax
I do not support this ordnance at all, just people with too much time on their hands and thats it ENough Said
Brendan C
PROMOTER
Zero Gravity
Mission Night Club
Oth Ent.
5907. Michelle Bavester | May 13, 2008 at 11:52 pm
free art for all
5908. Ashlea Thomsen | May 13, 2008 at 11:54 pm
completely unfair.
5909. Ren Bautista | May 13, 2008 at 11:55 pm
I believe this to be ill-conceived, negligent and culturally debilitating.
5910. Sergio | May 14, 2008 at 12:15 am
Not only does this hurt the local music scene, it will have a huge financial impact on those of us who make part or all of our living through entertainment here in Chicago. PLEASE for my sake, and the sake of every local music fan in this great city, DO NOT PASS THIS ORDINANCE!
5911. kerry peele | May 14, 2008 at 12:21 am
This needs to be stopped now. It is not fair to take away the great music in Chicago
5912. Noel Chambers | May 14, 2008 at 12:49 am
Great work and great dedication by Chicago’s artistic community in standing up for itself and getting this ordinance tabled. Let’s make sure we stay informed and have a voice in the crafting of the final ordinance down the road (because there will be something passed eventually, make no mistake about it).
Congratulations to everyone who raised their voice on this important matter.
5913. Chrisitna Pfeifer | May 14, 2008 at 12:51 am
Please do not stifle the artistic community in Chicago. I oppose this ordinance!
5914. David Kovac | May 14, 2008 at 1:35 am
Thank you all for speaking out on this. I am inspired. Smaller venues are true “engines of creativity and vitality” in the City of Chicago, as we know … We must not make it harder for them to survive. On behalf of performing artists everywhere, I say Gratitude!
5915. Vito Caputo | May 14, 2008 at 1:37 am
Well it looks like the job got done without me. I guess I’m just not needed anymore.
But as long as I’m here… I might as well mention that I’m rather disappointed by the fact that not one of the previous 5899 comments called it for what it really is…
Any elected alderman that would vote for any such ordinance is either a fascist, racist or anti-semite. Show show your colors folks — vote “yes” for this and you’re out of the closet.
And speaking of colors… if you choose to support any similar ordinance you damn better be wearing your American Flag lapel pin lest you be perceived as being unpatriotic… or a libernazi.
That’s all I have to say about this.
For now.
5916. Nancy BBE | May 14, 2008 at 2:15 am
Please DO NOT ever pass this ordinance! Chicago’s music and theater scene should be treasured and promoted, not destroyed. It is a huge asset to the city’s culture, AND it brings income to the city, not only to the performance venues, but also to hotels, restaurants, stores, and more. I have personally spent thousands of dollars in Chicago because of the thriving music scene. So don’t ruin a good thing–instead find ways to HELP it get even better!
5917. Maya Sinstress | May 14, 2008 at 3:52 am
Isn’t Chicago known for Our music?! F*Ck this!
5918. Elijah DamieN d! | May 14, 2008 at 5:59 am
I certainly hope this ordinance is never passed! I frequently travel 90 minutes+ to Chicago to attend underground music shows. Some of the best shows I’ve ever been to have been in Chicago; It would be horrible if such an ordinance would prevent great shows from going on. Great music events are what makes Chicago worth visiting and if these shows cease then there is no point in making the trip! This would be a great shame indeed.
5919. Jeff Economy | May 14, 2008 at 6:10 am
If this measure passes, the suburbanization of Chicago will be complete, and the city’s very soul will gasp its last as it is strangled once and for all. Surely there must be a less draconian way to ensure that the E2 nightclub disaster is not repeated. This initiative amounts to no less than cultural assassination; no right-thinking person can support it.
5920. Nick Almendarez | May 14, 2008 at 6:22 am
This is the stupidest ordinance. How dare they try and take away our music!!!
5921. audrey pam | May 14, 2008 at 6:33 am
Chicago is all about the music and theater culture. An ordinance like this would be detrimental to the city’s culture and reputation. The proposed ordinance seems like a very bad idea.
5922. SGodfrey | May 14, 2008 at 6:48 am
WE NEED MUSIC TO BE ACCESSIBLE! There are Young People who need a positive World To Grow Into, A City that Supports, the essential underlying thread that binds many people by rhythm and melody. To those who would stop music: Please remember your songs. Thank You
5923. Casey Kelly | May 14, 2008 at 6:59 am
This proposed City of Chicago ordinance is a bad idea, poorly thought out, with limited upside, and possible disastrous results for the Arts. It would have the effect of stifling creativity and innovation. The increase in beaurocracy would not be offset by any additional revenues it might add, and more importantly has the potential to drive small artists from an already financially difficult market. An extremely poor proposal, all considered, and should not even be considered for implementation.
5924. KATARZYNA MROZEK | May 14, 2008 at 7:34 am
bollocks
5925. Jenifer Parke | May 14, 2008 at 7:54 am
I recently came to Chicago from Pittsburgh to see a small venue show at Schubas – so I would count myself among one of the “untold many” tourists who come into town to enjoy its vibrant culture . . . while spending some cash! I stayed for five days and loved the city. . . .
It’s a shame and a waste to see something so great threatened this way. Hopefully all voices are heard. . . I would come back to see more small venue shows in the future, as Chicago has an amazing hidden cache of venues and artists . . . .
5926. Lauren Gilmore | May 14, 2008 at 8:00 am
I moved away from Chicago a few years ago and this took me completely by surprise. I can’t believe anyone would be selfish enough to think that trying to make money was more important than the arts. We have a decline already nationally in public schools. What’s even worse is that instead of making the money these people find so important, all they will succeed in doing is running people out of the city. I can’t believe the city council doesn’t care about the future of this amazing city. Keep up the good work guys and I hope this doesn’t happen.
5927. Sarah | May 14, 2008 at 8:04 am
SAVE THE MUSIC!!!!!!!!
5928. Aharona Ament | May 14, 2008 at 9:06 am
I strongly oppose
This is a stupid and hurtful way for the city to make more revenu.
5929. Julie Mackowiak | May 14, 2008 at 9:12 am
That’s just silly.
5930. Rachel | May 14, 2008 at 9:18 am
I’m glad that this ordinance has gone back for some “fine tuning.” But the battle’s not over yet. We cannot let the city pass a law that stifles creativity and local music. There has to be a better solution to ensure that concert attendees are kept safe.
Keep up the fight!
5931. John | May 14, 2008 at 9:22 am
I am a singer/ songwriter who ventures into many different genres. I enjoy playing in Chicago when I come through. I love the atmosphere there and also think bands like mine and many other struggling artist are great attractions for those from out of town. You take out what drives that city (the night life) and there will be no city. That’s why I come there and many others like me. If the same laws would have been in effect do you think we would have had all those great musicians come from Chicago. Think about it. When the city council’s pockets run dry where will they turn back to.
5932. Diane Peel | May 14, 2008 at 9:29 am
Please don’t let the city council do this! Chicago is known for it’s music diversity. The smaller clubs give new bands a chance to share their music, style & energy.
We’re in the midst of a miserable economic downturn. To nickel and dime the smaller venue’s and therefore the struggling artists is just plain cruel.
Personally, I dislike the large venues. They’ve become too corporate for my taste… WE NEED TO SAVE THE SMALLER CLUBS!!
5933. John | May 14, 2008 at 9:43 am
Please city council members, vote no on this ordinance. It will hurt the local musicians and theater artists.
5934. Heather | May 14, 2008 at 9:48 am
I work in a small music venue and get to see some really talented people come through…most who are just trying to make ends meet with the money they bring in at their show. I think this is just one more thing that mayor Daley is doing to line his pockets and his friends pockets. For a free country there certainly are a lot of useless rules, and it seems so many have to do with fines and fees…money, money, money.
5935. Adam Greenberg | May 14, 2008 at 9:52 am
This vote should be a definite no! It will be the demise of the city’s art scene.
5936. Georgeanna | May 14, 2008 at 9:59 am
You’ve GOT to be kidding! No no no.
5937. Greg Taylor | May 14, 2008 at 10:47 am
this seems extremely unfair and unneccesary.
5938. Shoshi | May 14, 2008 at 10:59 am
I am against this.
5939. John Dunkel | May 14, 2008 at 10:59 am
This proposal is assinine, don’t they have better things to discuss?
5940. Colin Brennan | May 14, 2008 at 12:16 pm
I can’t even believe that this is even being considered.
5941. Michael Kolodziej | May 14, 2008 at 12:27 pm
it wasnt passed as of today but the voting will take place again in 1 month and everyone needs to sign the petition and do what they can to help save chicago! because its not only music of passion thats being taking away, but even stand up comedy, theatrical productions and everything involving live events will go too! theres a line people need to see and this is it, do everything you can to help stop this ordinance because if its passed, whats to stop them from doing the same to your town?
5942. teddy | May 14, 2008 at 1:00 pm
It is a very wrong thing to do! It should not be passed, It sound like the work of Hitler, soon they will take everything from us, no music,
no movies, no theatrical plays, no art. It is a very stupid move on aldermans part. These events and shows are what bring people to
Chicago, people spend money. if you remove those talented people
and their fans, you remove a lot of money that helps run the town, thats like saying we dont want people to come to chicago and spend money. Also they mine as well tear down the Columbia College, and the Art Institute of Chicago. I dont like that one bit,
EVERYONE FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHTS TO ………….!!!!!!!!
5943. sarah weidmann | May 14, 2008 at 1:04 pm
I have loved being able to brag to NY and LA about Chicago’s 300 venues for all levels and styles of theatrical performance. Even the idea of this kind of ordinance is a shame…a scary shame for those like me, a performer and lover of everything creative.
5944. Alexa Weinert | May 14, 2008 at 1:12 pm
This is a ridiculous ordinance that would severely cripple this city’s music culture at all levels.
Please do not pass such an ordinance.
5945. Tiffany Burkhardt | May 14, 2008 at 1:31 pm
This ordinance would destroy the grassroots artistic community in Chicago. I completely oppose this and any other legislation that prevents independent music and theater and promotes “corporatizing” art.
5946. anthony kopp | May 14, 2008 at 1:45 pm
As a musician and producer I am totally against this and If it passes Im sure chicago will loose out on alot of great events and music. Please dont do this chicago. Whats happening with this world!!!!!!
5947. Paul Pasika | May 14, 2008 at 1:56 pm
This ordinance sacrifices freedoms for the sake of legal accountability and the free reign to apply any legal precedents to a “promoter” as they deem fit. Guilty before proven innocent. I do not support it!
5948. Dan Green | May 14, 2008 at 1:59 pm
A musician’s life is hard (unless you are one of the VERY few who made it), and this just makes it even harder. I am completely against this.
5949. Jeremy Bunyaner | May 14, 2008 at 3:13 pm
It seems as if there should be some very serious discussion and revising before anything at all is passed, although personally I feel that this ordinance is ridiculous.
5950. Braiden Wilson | May 14, 2008 at 3:20 pm
The absurdity for this ordinance seems so clear as to not require comment.
5951. Deanna Minkler | May 14, 2008 at 3:23 pm
WTF – how do you even consider getting rid of small venues in Chicago?!!?
Bands get their start in small venues! Let’s just stop playing music at all in Chicago! Gee, let’s stop serving alcohol in bars while we’re at it.
What ridiculousness.
5952. Kyle Brown | May 14, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Please don’t do this to chicago!
5953. Jeanie Pitchford | May 14, 2008 at 4:33 pm
I can’t believe they would try this. How incredibly stupid! I have a Christmas caroling company that, of course, only performs during the Christmas season and I’d have to charge such an exorbitant price that I’d be driven out of business. It’s like cutting off your foot to fight a hangnail. Are they idiots?
5954. jesse lava | May 14, 2008 at 4:34 pm
wow.
5955. Josh N | May 14, 2008 at 7:25 pm
I strongly oppose this ordinace. I know chicago for all of the music that goes on. I couldn’t imagine Chicago w/o its music venues. It’ll just make the city black and white. You can add my name. … this is rediculous…
5956. James Chiodo | May 14, 2008 at 8:00 pm
I very strongly oppose this ordinance! This city of Chicago is known for its music especially with the start of the Jazz movement years ago. The culture of Chicago was built on music and the local venues help to push that culture and keep it alive. By passing this ordinance, you not only take away this important part of Chicago’s history and culture, you are taking away peoples business, lives, jobs, and a huge part of Chicago’s nightlife and scenes within it. Add my name to the list! THIS ORDINANCE IS COMPLETELY RIDICULOUS!!!
5957. michael ellis | May 14, 2008 at 8:05 pm
STOP!
5958. Fuse | May 14, 2008 at 9:40 pm
This is a noose to any aspiring business professionals. This means that my friend would have to have a lic and insurance to have a tasting of her pastries at an art gallery. They are just thinking about their own financial stability. How can we trust them?
5959. kerri | May 14, 2008 at 10:23 pm
I used to be in a local chicago band who is now signed to victory records. Every show we ever played wouldn’t have been possible if this was around back then. Even now, if it goes through, i don’t think they would be able to play their own home town. What is the point? Is there any good that could come from this? No.
5960. Amy Steele | May 14, 2008 at 10:35 pm
Chicago needs the arts!! Don’t dare take them away!!
5961. Moises Hernandez | May 14, 2008 at 10:38 pm
Music is produced by artists sharing their heart and soul, and that music is shared with an audience via promoters who love their work. NOT BY THE ALDERMEN OF THIS CITY!!!!!!! CAN’T THEY JUST FIGURE OUT HOW THEY WILL SPEND THEIR RAISES, AND LEAVE US ALONE!!!!!!!!
5962. Cathy Johnson | May 14, 2008 at 10:58 pm
This is ridiculous! I oppose!!!!!!!!!
5963. Sherrie Adams | May 14, 2008 at 11:46 pm
My name is Sherrie Adams and I’m a Chicago singer/songwriter and creator of a website called Truthaholic.com. I was so shocked and disheartened when I read my email today which alerted me of yet another way people want to make being creative more difficult.
This is so unnecessary, if they pass this law then where do they draw the line? Will they make every sales person who goes anywhere to sell anything be licensed and insured? All musicians and promoters are “selling” music, essentially and providing a service. Musicians get paid from the club, whether it be the door or a flat fee, therefore we are under the umbrella of the clubs insurance and also fall under the umbrella as someone who was “hired” by the club to provide a valuable service. Where will it end? Will servers and bartenders have to get insurance too? Will the DJ have to be licensed and insured? How are we any different from all of these people who are hired by the club to provide a service? We’re not and we need to see the value in what we do and protest those who don’t.
This really pisses me off becasue this is a blatant attempt for the city to make money of bullshit “licenses” and “permits.” It’s not to regulate anything, because nothing is out of control and it’s not to protect anyone because no one is in danger. It’s just a shitty way to make more money.
To make ANY artistic person have to obtain a permit or a license to entertain people is really absurd and an indication of a lack of respect for art. What’s next, comedians having a license to make people laugh? A painter obtaining a permit to sell a painting at a gallery?
Thanks for listening
5964. Joseph W Smith | May 15, 2008 at 1:44 am
I also feel the general sentiment of “I’m kind of surprised people are actually considering this.” I cannot properly describe how strongly I disagree with this proposal
5965. Jennifer | May 15, 2008 at 7:49 am
The is an outrage!!
5966. Ben Mazza | May 15, 2008 at 8:29 am
This Ordinance will strike at the unprofessional musician/artist as well as the professional. I also feel this limits our right to free assembly. Has anyone contacted the ACLU to see if this violates the Bill Of Rights? Also, putting age requirements on art and music is asinine. I started performing live music at the age of 16. I started booking all ages shows in a church basement at the age of 19. I’m 29 today and promote my performances the same way I did when I first started playing out. This ordinance does more than “register” promoters, it sends a message that anyone under the age of 21 can’t be an artist/musician and definitely cannot promote their events. Also, I am not an musician to generate revenue, so I couldn’t afford to pay for a license every two years. That’s why I have a day job and that’s why I pay income tax.
5967. Nate Koschmann | May 15, 2008 at 8:37 am
Does anybody know the real motivation behind this proposed ordinance? I disagree with it as strongly as everybody else here, but from a political negotiating standpoint, it makes sense to at least know what the other side is trying to accomplish. (Just curious.)
5968. Joe Morrison | May 15, 2008 at 8:59 am
It’s only right that this ordinance should be pulled.
I’ve never visited Chicago, but I fully intend to do so in the next few years, and my soul motivation is to visit and take in as many of the subcultural events as possible. In fact, it’s fair to say that I know very little about Chicago as a city (besides its reputation as a faded, once-great automobile-manufacturing and meatpacking city) beyond features of its vibrant music scene.
Independent promoters create places which ARE your international credentials, ARE your tourist-magnets, ARE your lasting mark on the world. No doubt that can make the fact that they’re unregulated (etc) seem like a liability. But it’d be a big mistake to enforce unmanageable legislation as a reaction.
5969. SA Throop | May 15, 2008 at 9:29 am
What a terrible thing, to pass an ordinance that would harm the very places that make the Chicago music scene so amazing and flourishing.
5970. Jacob Larrimore | May 15, 2008 at 9:43 am
John Malkovich has said that Chicago is the new New York when it comes to theater – New York is too expensive for up and comers these days. I’d hate to see Minneapolis become the new Chicago, especially since many of my friends are in small productions.
Same goes for music. I met my fiancee at Schuba’s and have been quite a few of the city’s many smaller venues, including some that were basically well-decorated apartments selling art off the walls. I have friends in jazz, folk and other important if not especially crowd-drawing genres. Why cut these people off at the knees? Austin’s a nice town but do we really want all of Chicago’s talent to have to move? How will the city continue to attract young people if there’s nothing to do except get drunk?
5971. J. Gagovski | May 15, 2008 at 10:11 am
This ordinance would damage our music, culture, art and so may other things that go along with that. Not everything can exist on a big enough level to be able to afford all of expenses that clubs and promoters would have to be responsible for. Our creative community depends and these intimate, and inspiring events that aren’t strictly based on profit. Please don’t let this ordinance pass!
5972. Todd Gutner | May 15, 2008 at 3:15 pm
Please take this law off of the table.
5973. Chip Hamlett | May 15, 2008 at 4:14 pm
Whoever’s baby this ordinance is needs to grow a brain and repent. The ordinance is a clear violation of the first amendment and should never have even been allowed to see the light of day. It is illogical, undemocratic, and ill-conceived. The city council room should be turned into a free, city-sponsored all-ages venue and the alderman’s offices converted to studios and practice spaces. Don’t just take this ordinance off the table, grind it under your heels and start working in the opposite direction: throw money at musician’s and artists and de-regulate performance spaces of all kinds. Spend less time cooking up surreal, unenforceable laws and more time figuring out how to turn this town into the art capital of the world.
Get Smart!
5974. Steve H | May 15, 2008 at 5:40 pm
Daley et al have made their motives abundantly clear: maximize city revenues; minimize potential liabilities (the reason for this ordinance); cater to corporate interests and affluent individuals who can/will pay to be here and are on this same page. This is systemic. They are not targeting the arts, the poor, per se but are doing so in pursuit of these goals and they will not stop unless their own goals and finances are hurt by their actions. This ordinance was tabled for tweaking for a month. Unless it can be made abundantly clear that this ordinance hurts the goals of the corporatization of chicago, it will pass in a form that probably lets a few more businesses like Metro in the door for a fee and that will be that. There needs to be a case made for a severe negative economic impact on the city of this ordinance and the art it will kill versus the potential liabilities it seeks to prevent and it needs to be presented to the council. Otherwise something close will very likely pass, in my opinion.
5975. Faith Pennick | May 15, 2008 at 6:10 pm
This is a really, REALLY stupid idea. Here’s to protecting indie musicians and venues!
5976. Daniel J. Cook | May 15, 2008 at 9:11 pm
Schulter’s my alderman, I’ve worked on feature films in his ward so I had his staff’s ear a bit and I have seen many of the things I was adamantly against adjusted or written out of the latest version, which is great.
Cooperation is nice, but fundamentally we are cooperating on an unnecessary, useless and absurd law.
JUST KILL IT, SCHULTER!!!
5977. Larry Taylor | May 15, 2008 at 10:33 pm
I am a heritage bluesman, a singer and drummer from the West Side. As usual, they test bad things out on the African American community and move them to the rest of the public…in our case the city ran just about all the music clubs on the west side out of business, using some kind of licensing b.s. These are the community venues where blues first grew out of, where my stepdad Eddie Taylor Sr. played with guys like Elmore James, Big Walter Horton, Howlin’ Wolf. Now they are trying to do the same to all the other small venues so they cant compete with a few big venues the politicians are trying to please. We have to stand together and really put the pressure on our politicians so they dont end up killing live music in this town. we need to bring our blues clubs back and this would just make it harder for anybody to start having live music.
5978. Laura M | May 16, 2008 at 8:21 am
Just say “no” to this hideous ordinance.
5979. casey | May 16, 2008 at 9:05 am
nice work on the lift, and thanks for pulling this together. a seemingly good idea, with little thought, consequence, and consideration.
5980. Eric | May 17, 2008 at 1:17 pm
This could have been perhaps one of the most idiotic mistakes Chicago would have ever made. Musicians have life hard enough without extra fees, and the police showing up every five minutes. If this had passed, music would have started to die in Chicago, for how can people make it big, if when they start small, they are charged and slammed down? Keep on signing America, music is one of the greatest events this world has to offer, it should NEVER be suppressed.
5981. Ken Bobko | May 17, 2008 at 2:13 pm
I’m a registered voter, and I want to go to music events.
I oppose this ordinance.
5982. Lena | May 17, 2008 at 10:26 pm
I completely agree. The ordinance is bad for the city, for the people and for the culture.
5983. Mark | May 18, 2008 at 12:28 pm
Hello to everyone interested in this ordinance…
Hopefully this window of opportunity that we have right now will allow us to influence some positive changes in the ordinance as it is drafted.
http://chicago-music.org/promoters-comments.php
We’d really appreciate your contributions through a new form on the CMC website that is meant to collect input from the community, specifically about this promoter ordinance.
If possible, please be as articulate as you can and keep the comments focused regarding the actual draft ordinance (PDF available from our site) even to the point of being a line-by-line argument.
What we need now is not rants/ overgeneralizations /etc, but instead real concise arguments and supporting evidence to back up the statements.
Thanks for your help,
Mark Roth
on behalf of The Board of Directors of the Chicago Music Commission
http://www.Chicago-Music.org
5984. James | May 18, 2008 at 2:31 pm
Currently, how many people would actually have, “concise arguments”, and “supporting evidence”? I mean no offense towards you, or any others in the Board of Directors, however the few people who could come up with such statements are called lawyers, and few of them have that sort of time. I would suggest that instead the Board hire their own lawyers, and let the people speak. Otherwise comments will be constrictive, because people will be afraid that they will get reprimanded by having their statements be called” rants”, etc. This is the kind of petition that your Board encouraged in the beginning, if you look through, all that will be seen are people that are passionate about music. Some go a bit over, no doubt, however they are quite right in their own way. I personally see no problems that could result from the fact that people might connect dots that do not make sense. However if you see it differently I would urge you to post a response stating your reasons why some postings on this site are a problem.
James
5985. Mike | May 18, 2008 at 3:22 pm
This law is pointless. I do believe in the 21+ part though, Ive seen too many teens jump into the industry with no respect for the scene or regard for the clientele or venue. All they wish for is big money and then disappear after a year. As a former promoter myself, I believe serious promoters deal with legit venues and do the proper things in place. The fundraisers I hosted required tons of paperwork as-is, this law would only take from any of the charity funds made.
The venues that do have fights should be held responsible for not having adequate security and not regulating or monitoring their crowds. Requiring promoters to have a license isn’t going to stop a venue from having a fight. Nor is it going to stop venues from hiring licensed promoters with ghetto crowds.
I believe a license would be appropriate if all the guidelines are set properly. 21+ should be a definite requirement. Ive seen too many teens jump into the industry with no respect or regard for clientèle or venue. All they wish for is big money and disappear a year later, tarnishing the scene and leaving it for responsible promoters to clean up. The 21+ mindset is more responsible and focused than that of an 18+ highschool student throwing a quick event.
5986. Bethany Slack | May 18, 2008 at 4:00 pm
One of the things that has made me stay in Chicago for as long as I have is the amazing live entertainment scene. I love live music and I’m an actor myself and this ordinace threatens to kill the two things I love about this city. I hope those in decision making positions will take a closer look at who this really effects and reconsider.
5987. Lisa Schroeder | May 19, 2008 at 6:01 am
That’s one of the most ridiculous things I’ve ever heard! I’m sure “people” have come to this conclusion to make money, but what kind of brains do these people have if they don’t see the incredibly stifling effect it will end up having on cultural creativity? Do they seriously think it’s worth it? Add curse of choice here. Please, artistry is one of the few things that make mankind great.
5988. Jay | May 19, 2008 at 2:36 pm
Not the same, but where I live (Norwich, England), the council tried to cut arts funding, thankfully protests seemed to prevent this from happening, and as a result we still have the best puppet theatre in the country (!). Good luck for the future.
5989. Jack Kerns | May 19, 2008 at 5:42 pm
this cannot be allowed. vote no.
5990. Ed | May 19, 2008 at 8:45 pm
This is the cities way stupid reaction to that E something club where a dumb guard shot off some pepper spray and people died. They tried to hold the city responsible because the place should have been shut down, but that was not enforced, so people died. Now they want an open mike to be charged the same as a dance night club. Seems like the council should be thinking about solutions for their errors instead of trying to pass more garbage laws, which don’t work, anyway!
5991. Derek A. Shemezis | May 20, 2008 at 9:08 am
This got tabled because the wording is to include everybody, when it was infact trying to target those E2 type ‘clubs/promotions’ I will sign the petition, but i know the mayor isn’t that stupid to force the shut down of music venues and other arts in the city.
5992. Joel Rodriguez | May 20, 2008 at 10:10 am
As an aspiring musician hoping to hit music venues soon i find this ordinance ridiculous. I am opposed. There should be no ground for the city to limit the creativity and passion of musicians in widespread Chicago. Vote NO!!!
5993. Maria Jolly | May 20, 2008 at 7:41 pm
Chicago has soo much low-buget wonderful art, music, shows…ect. It would be a shame to see it all go away.
VOTE NO!
5994. James | May 20, 2008 at 9:16 pm
I have just happened to notice that when it is convenient, the Board happens to reveal itself, showing “guidance and wisdom”, however when asked for help, they refuse to comply. I now know the kind of people they are, or the kind of disguise they hide behind. So while I do still believe in your cause, dear Board, I am distressed to admit that you personal choices do not seem to add up. I do apologize if i seem a bit forthright with your decisions, however if that is the case then I would feel much more at ease with a response. However besides that personal complaint, I happen to have an argument for your cause. As written, and if I comprehend the ordinance correctly, then Chicago was going to pass a law stating that people must be twenty-one to play at these events, however this cannot be legal, because in the United States people reach citizenship at age eight-teen. With all of the rights of a full citizen I do not believe that it is in a local governments hands to deny musicians part of their citizenship. However of course if the National government became involved then that would be a whole new case. If that is not enough of an argument then I suggest that the Board hire some decent lawyers. If you wish to contact me on this issue, it is unfortunate enough that I have no e-mail address, and I refuse to give out my phone number for any rabble of people to see. However you may contact me at my friends e-mail, kronosnight@aim.net. I do hope you find some usefulness in my comment and perhaps find a bit of time to respond in some way.
5995. Earl Carter"The Riptones' & Ary "Phoenix Studios" | May 21, 2008 at 12:41 pm
If this ordinance is passed R. Kelly won’t be able to shoot his movies here in Chicago
5996. Ary "Phoenix Studios" & Earl Carter "The Riptones" | May 21, 2008 at 1:48 pm
This is more reflective of the perpetual corruption of the imperialistic Bush regime in the White House-remove the constitutional rights of many to line the pockets of a few in efforts to cover thier asses for a disaster they’re responsibe for-destroying our economy in the process.
Involve local-national star power to bring national attention to this if ordinance is passed…Oprah Winfrey, Billy Corgan, Kanaye West, R.Kelly…..ok, not R. Kelly…
This affects everyone of all creative spectrums
5997. Promoter’s Ordinance Opinion Survey « Save Chicago Culture | May 21, 2008 at 2:32 pm
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5998. Jan-Erik Hjelmer | May 22, 2008 at 3:43 am
Chicago is in the world famous for Chicago-blues. Keep it that way.
5999. Matt Binder | May 22, 2008 at 8:44 pm
Leave Chicago Musicians alone! Don’t pass this law! I just moved here and you are going to take music away from us?
6000. James | May 25, 2008 at 11:40 pm
I appreciate the gratification I have received by obtaining a connection to a website with more facts on the ordinance. Look at comment 5997.
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6002. ellie | June 1, 2008 at 9:47 pm
no, they can’t.
WHERE IS THE PETITION WE SIGN.
if you don’t want this,
and your job is not wanting this,
then why’d you make it SO difficult
to help you sign the petition?
is there even a petition?
6003. Larry Taylor | June 1, 2008 at 11:49 pm
Blues is my heritage and if this ordinance passes it will squash out all the small clubs and the music will be gone.
Please keep this stuck in committee. Stuck where the sun don’t shine.
6004. Beth | July 14, 2008 at 11:12 pm
If this ordinance is passed it might improve the acts. So far, all the ‘non-pro’ acts have been unclassy and uninteresting.
6005. Dean | September 4, 2008 at 3:57 am
I would like to sign the petition… This would be a terrible thing if it gets passed.
6006. | always (fashionably) late | November 25, 2008 at 12:12 am
[...] Please visit Chicago music critic, Jim DeRogatis’ blog on the Chicago Sun Times to learn more about this asinine ordinance and if you feel the need to act upon this, a petition can be found HERE. [...]
6007. Chicago Music Lover | June 19, 2009 at 12:48 pm
I understand the rationale behind why they want this, and why we should fight this.
However, as a former promoter in Chicago, I also think there needs to be some kind of connection between the authorities and the promoters. We have too many bad apples that cause things like this to happen.
All I hear about are the underground hip cool into the music venues. What about all the crappy clubs where the promoter isn’t some hip cool guy and is instead some guido or criminal? Walk into most of the “bottle service” clubs and I guarantee you’ll see cocaine rampant and underage girls on the premises. It’s these bad apples that cause the problem to occur.
If we want to save Schuba’s, Double Door, Metro, Smartbar, etc…then we have to find some common ground where these fly-by-night bad apples get pushed out, or at least busted when they break the law.
I am against the ordinance, but I want some change, because I’m tired of the city coming down on guys like me for the actions of the bad apples when I threw events that were safe and legal. I’d also like to see things open up for the entrepreneurs to be able to throw bigger events like another Purenation or a punk rock fest in Union park or something.
The “us VS the city” thing won’t hold out, and I think while we should not allow this very loose and unfair law to happen, we should thought think about how to better police our own industry and thus not give the city excuses to keep trying to pass these laws.
6008. Live Music in Chicago | August 30, 2011 at 12:58 pm
i’m curious as to why they are doing this? are they having a hard time collecting taxes? what’s the reasoning? we support live music in chicago!