Stop the promoter’s ordinance
May 9, 2008
WE DID IT!!! THE ORDINANCE HAS BEEN PULLED!!!!
For now…
We do need to keep up on this. They’re putting it back in committee for more work. At least this time there will be some input from the entertainment community. Bookmark this site to keep up on the developments!
In the meantime, tonight I, for one, am celebrating!
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Imagine a Chicago with no Metro or Double Door or Schuba’s. Imagine a Chicago with no Royal George or Bailiwick or Athenaeum. Imagine a Chicago where local music is only heard in the suburbs and theater is limited to Wicked and Jersey Boys.
Scary thoughts. But if the City of Chicago’s City Council doesn’t hear your voice by Wednesday, May 14, they can become reality.
On that date the council will vote to approve an ordinance that has the power to stifle creativity in Chicago’s musical, theatrical, and general cultural scenes. With no public discourse or commentary, this proposal has been approved by the City Council Committee and is on the fast track to be pushed into law. It is up to us to let our elected officials know that Chicago’s creative scene is too rich, too varied, and too vital to be regulated in such a blanket fashion.
The details:
The “Event Promoters” ordinance requires any event promoter to have a license from the city of Chicago and liability insurance of $300,000, but that’s just the start:
- The definition of “event promoter” is so loosely defined it could apply to a band that books its own shows or a theater company that’s in town for a one-week run.
- “Event Promoter” must be licensed and will pay $500 – $2000 depending on expected audience size.
- To get the license, applicant must be over 21, get fingerprinted, submit to a background check, and jump over several other hurdles.
- This ordinance seems targeted towards smaller venues, since those with 500+ permanent seats are exempt.
- Police must be notified at least 7 days in advance of event.
For the complete ordinance, check out Jim DeRogatis’ blog on the Chicago Sun-Times.
We are collecting signatures to present to the council voicing our opposition to this ordinance. YOUR VOICE IS NECESSARY TO ENSURE CHICAGO’S CULTURAL SCENE CONTINUES TO THRIVE. Please leave a comment as your expression of disapproval. These will be presented to the City Council and to all Chicago Aldermen prior to Wednesday’s vote.
Thank you for helping to protect Chicago’s Culture.
Sincerely,
Theresa Carter, The Local Tourist: THE Website for downtown Chicago
Michael Teach, Chicago Acoustic Underground
Michael Narvaez, Chicago Acoustic Underground
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1. Theresa Carter | May 9, 2008 at 10:25 pm
As someone who’s passionate about Chicago and its incredible music and cultural scene I see this ordinance effectually relegating this vibrant city to the dark ages.
2. Michael Teach | May 9, 2008 at 10:30 pm
This ordnance is ridiculous! The laws that are currently in place cover everything that is espoused by this “Law”. If the original laws had been enforced at E2 there would never have been a problem.
Do not eliminate the music community from performing in Chicago!
Peace,
Michael Teach, Host
Chicago Acoustic Underground
3. Michael Narvaez | May 9, 2008 at 10:35 pm
After fighting so long to help the Chicago music since I find this ordinance totally outrageous so lets stop the madness!
4. Dennis M. Kelly | May 9, 2008 at 11:45 pm
Chicago Music Guide will do all that we can to ensure that people are well informed of this situation so they’ll have the opportunity to express their opinions on the matter.
Please let us know how else we can help to stop this from becoming a reality.
Dennis M. Kelly
Owner/Editor
Chicago Music Guide
5. Bradley Petrik | May 10, 2008 at 7:24 am
As a performer myself, to learn of an ordinance like this makes me sick to my stomach. This will directly limit my livelihood and make it harder for me to perform as I please.
I hope that this ordinance doesn’t become law and destroy the vibrant cultural capital in Chicago. We are a world class city because of our cultural capital – doing this will destroy the reputation that we have developed for so long.
6. Amy Mueller | May 10, 2008 at 7:31 am
Come on Chicago, what are you thinking?
I am so against this. It’s asinine. I’ll be blogging about this at the Chicago Moms Blog.
Amy Mueller
(312) 235-2028
http://www.chicagomomsblog.com
7. Eric Mueller | May 10, 2008 at 7:34 am
Ridiculous.
Will be blogging about this at http://www.canyouseethesunset.com
Eric Mueller
8. Cara Carriveau | May 10, 2008 at 7:35 am
My biggest concern is how will effect nonprofit events that barely squeak by as it is. I host many benefit concerts and these proposed fees will literally take away money from deserving charities and individuals in need. And, I really don’t see the point or benefit – so what if the promoter is fingerprinted, how is that going to make the concert run any better??? This is a horrendous concept and sure hope the bill does not pass.
9. Phil Rosenberg | May 10, 2008 at 7:46 am
As a fan of the Chicago Music and arts scene, it would be a crime to strip up and coming performers of the ability to find their audience. Jam, Live Nation, and Ticketmaster make enough money charging $50-$300+/ticket with their lock on larger concert venues.
Chicago’s small venue music choices bring this city untold tourist and entertainment dollars spent in restaurants, hotels, and related entertainment….and taxes.
How will Chicago’s Blues and Jazz musicians survive this ordinance? How will Chicago’s Jazz Fest and Blues Fest look when no Chicago artists are on the bill, because they were all driven to Memphis, Austin, and New Orleans? This ordinance will drive the arts to more friendly cities because of poorly thought, back room politics designed to enrich the big players at the expense of the performers.
Keep Chicago, not Austin, the live music capital of the world, and don’t pass this ordinance.
Phil Rosenberg
Music Fan and President of reCareered & Rainmakers Global
10. Penny Carter, CPA, CIA | May 10, 2008 at 8:08 am
This ordinance goes far beyond ensuring that controls are in place to prevent another E2 disaster. It will have the affect of limiting the active music scene in Chicago to only huge acts that can afford promoter’s fees. The effect will be to prevent smaller concerts, including those benefiting charitable organizations. Is this a bill written for insurance companies or for promoters? It certainly is not written as an answer to E2, because sufficient laws are already in place – if they are enforced. Please do not allow such an all-encompassing ordinance to become a bill.
11. Paul Kloster | May 10, 2008 at 9:04 am
Please don’t let the Chicago music scene become a parody of itself. Many people have worked their butts off to make the city a well known stop for artists, fans etc. It would be a shame to see all of this hard work go to waste if this law is passed.
12. Shanara Fornett | May 10, 2008 at 10:16 am
Please add my name to the list!
PEACE
13. Moe Martinez | May 10, 2008 at 10:28 am
This ordinance seems like the most ridiculous idea for a city that supposedly prides itself on its music and arts scene.
I will link to this petition from my own blog.
Moe
contact@skipthedial.com
http://www.skipthedial.com
14. Wendy Parman | May 10, 2008 at 10:31 am
As both a musician and performer and a fan of music/theater in this city I am appalled at the nasty way this ordinance is being pushed through with so little feedback from the community. What the heck Chicago? Let’s stop this now.
15. Jane Granner | May 10, 2008 at 10:31 am
Speak up Chicago! Let your voices be heard! Don’t allow the culture of Chicago’s music scene be destroyed by some stifling ordinance that will directly impact smaller venues and charitable organizations. We need to encourage and support these artists and keep Chicago the best city in the world!
16. michael harnett | May 10, 2008 at 10:48 am
As a strong supporter of Chicago’s local music scene and former promoter, club owner and manager of bands this ordinance is for no other purpose than to protect the status quo and generate revenues for the city. Instead of working to grow the music scene and live music events the City of Chicago continues to add tax upon tax and hurdle upon hurdle to stifle musicians, club owners, promoters and event managers. They can go all out, with their deep pocket corporate partners, to host the Olympics but to do something positive for the music scene which generates good will and multiple revenue streams they just keep putting up more roadblocks. They should be ashamed and this ordinance needs to be killed.
Michael Harnett
17. Chicago Guitar Lessons | May 10, 2008 at 11:07 am
This is typical of a Democratic big American city. They preach to the middle class, ask them to pay, then take their rights away by out pricing them. We at CGL.com have a business license, pay high property taxes and play the game. Mostly the middle class is not equipt for this. Our “Home Business License” is based on the fact that if they will not give us what we need we will buy in Des Plaines and still do business with Chicago.
They want that money so they change the laws for the ( .com )
buiness futures market.
No cigarrettes
No bands
No bars
This is wrong !
18. Meg | May 10, 2008 at 11:08 am
This absolutely defies belief. I have seen shows at all but two of the venues listed in Jim DeRogatis’s blog and they have been some of the best times of my life. Independant music is one of the things I absolutely love about Chicago. It is absurd to think that this would go this far without notice of the public. If the worries are about “unsafe event planning”, then reinforce the saftey laws with higher penalties. The music shouldn’t have to suffer because of dishonest promoters.
19. Sean Patrick | May 10, 2008 at 11:48 am
This is outrageous! Talk about a sure-fire way to kill what makes this city great. This has to be stopped – I fully agree with the posts so far – if it’s “safety” that is the issue, raise the penalties (again) but I think we all know that’s cosmetic. This will take a huge city-wide effort. Let’s get started!
20. Lisa Barcy | May 10, 2008 at 1:10 pm
It’s as if they’re trying to vanquish anything that makes this town interesting. If Chicago’s music scene is limited to Wal-mart style musicals you can see just about anywhere, then we’ve truly been reduced to a carbon copy shopping mall. Don’t suck the soul out of our town!
21. Amy DK | May 10, 2008 at 1:43 pm
As a singer/songwriter, this ordinance would basically do away with almost every place I could play within the city of Chicago. By passing this, the livelihood of hundreds of musicians in the Chicago area would be adversely affected.
While safety is a genuine issue, there should be a way of dealing with those concerns without in effect destroying an integral part of what makes Chicago great – the local music and theatre community.
22. Diane Grider | May 10, 2008 at 2:10 pm
The thing I love most about this city is how it embraces artists, this ordinance is completely opposing to artists! Small venues offer emerging artists a chance to get their music heard and start building a reputation and audience. Not to mention, it’s a huge draw for visitors. Passing this ordinance would be a shot in our own foot, very stupid!
23. Meghan | May 10, 2008 at 2:16 pm
Whats amazing is that Chicago has this great reputation for music and entertainment and a constant selection of things to do. Yet, with the staggering amount of permits, licensing, registration, fees, etc, that is required to do or have anything here, it seems it was only a matter of time before the City Council decided that they should be making a profit off of the entertainment traveling into the city. I’m surprised that they don’t make you pay to enter the city limits.
24. Thomas Goforth | May 10, 2008 at 2:29 pm
I am wholeheartedly against this ordinance. I find it unimaginable that the City Council would try to sneak this through to passage. Do not our elected representatives know what makes Chicago such a great City culturally? It’s the opportunity for creative artists, actors, and preformers to show their work and their talent. Do these folks have the money to pay yet another tax? To restrict the possibility of performance in small venues by creative artists and performers is, in my opinion, foolhardy in the extreme.
25. Sophia Rane | May 10, 2008 at 2:44 pm
My son is an emerging musician with his band and I would hate to think that thia ordiance would prevent him from playing in his BELOVED City of Chicago!!!!!!!
26. Sophia Rane | May 10, 2008 at 2:51 pm
My son is an emerging musician with his band and I would hate to think that this ordinance woud prevet him from playing in his BELOVED CIty of Chicago!!
27. Sandi Roberson | May 10, 2008 at 3:13 pm
I am totally against this ordinance. Musicians have it hard enough to show their talent. Our city would be a very boring place to visit for vacationers or anyone for that matter!
28. Laura Saaf | May 10, 2008 at 3:18 pm
It’s not right to demand all these requirements and fees of the smaller venues, theater groups, etc. when the 500+ seat places are exempt. How are you ever going to get big if you can’t start small? This legislation seems to be dead set against uniqueness in Chicago’s culture and flies in the face of what makes Chicago so vibrant and alive. The big venues are NOT the end-all and be-all of Chicago culture!
29. Gary Tu | May 10, 2008 at 5:17 pm
I am 100 percent against this law. Fight the power.
30. bethfinke | May 10, 2008 at 5:50 pm
I am blind. If you know people with disabilities, you know it isn’t easy for us to find high-paying jobs. I love going to theatre, hearing live music, attending readings. Chicago offers many of these things at an affordable price. I would like to be able to continue to appreciate the high quality of culture here in Chicago and am therefore against this proposed legislation.
31. Thomas Appling | May 10, 2008 at 5:55 pm
Chicago should be helping to make more opportunites for burgeoning talent to be heard in small venues. Chicago is proud to be the “Second City”…this ordinance in it’s current form is sure to make it the “Last City” by driving talent to other more artist friendly communities.
32. James R. Neff | May 10, 2008 at 7:30 pm
Another ordinance, The City that works is working to destroy its own music and cultural scene.
33. Larz Lustie | May 10, 2008 at 7:32 pm
as a musician and performer of over 20 years, i can tell you that this will utterly DESTORY the flourishing Chicago independant music and performance scene.
and in the aftermath- the only place anyone will be able to see any talent will be at huge venuse that cannot be filled by anyone other than national bands and thetrical companies; i hope everyon will enjoy paying exuberent ticket costs for entertainment of any kind, and mayor Daily -with his “whatever” type of attitude, will just get more wealthy from it-just look at how he passed the buck of responsibily in regards to channel 9’s undercover report on vermin at O-Hare airport- if this ordinace passes-the Chicago music scene will be ripped up under the cover of secrecy and darkness, just like Migs Field
34. bruce watson | May 10, 2008 at 7:51 pm
enough of this madness—stifling creative possibilities in the veil of “Public Safety” is reminscent of past fascism.
35. Elisabeth Blair | May 10, 2008 at 8:03 pm
My band promotes its own shows and probably will for a long time to come. Even regardless of whether this law is actually enforced, to feel like a criminal when I am promoting a show will be awful. And if it is enforced, even sporadically, it will screw us musicians over so much it makes me want to cry. We simply do not have this kind of money. I repeat, we do not have it. City Hall: Please don’t shut down the vibrant Chicago music scene with this sweeping act.
To all: Please join the Facebook group, Save Chicago Culture.
36. paul yahl | May 10, 2008 at 11:47 pm
Is this for real? I know Chicago is corrupt from living there for three years but, this is beyond ridiculous. Is this their way of turning a buck?… brilliant…
37. Chris | May 11, 2008 at 12:36 am
this is absolutly outrageous.
i wouldnt be surprised to see an exodus of independent musicians from the city, should this pass, and be enforced to the degree everyone is talking about.
i, for one, would no longer feel comfortable performing here.
there are other cities to call home.
38. Emil Wisch | May 11, 2008 at 12:48 am
Oh, real nice. The little guys get f**ked again. Music is now being rationed by lawmakers who know what’s best for everybody else. I know promoters and small bands who put more than full time hours into their crafts and still don’t make enough money to get by. Stop now and go pick on somebody else. Oops, sorry you can’t because their paying you off to look the other way. So, go ahead and destroy the spirit of entrepreneurship and creativity little by little. It’s only a little thing that this country was built on. In my experience, the idea of entrepreneurship gives a lot of people hope and keeps them from seeking more socially unacceptable ways of paying the bills. If the gov’t used a little common sense and creativity, maybe they wouldn’t have to tax everybody and everything.
While you’re at it, make the boy scouts and girl scouts to get vendor’s license to sell thier cookies.
Get bent! I mean that with nothing but respect.
39. Ryan Gunzel | May 11, 2008 at 1:38 am
It’s really a shame. It has been in recent years that Chicago has seen a lot of rebuilding and reemerging of neighborhoods, which have in turn only helped to make Chicago a better city. And much of this is due to artists. If something like this had passed twenty years ago, would there be the Wicker Park, Lincoln Park, Ukrainian Village, Logan Square, etc, that we know today? What’s to keep local artists, non-profit organizations, and small time events in Chicago? And when those people leave, what will keep the small cafes, boutiques, record stores, book stores? This proposal is a step backwards.
40. Thomas Woytus | May 11, 2008 at 2:32 am
Please don’t pass this ordinance! My friend David Kav is a musician and the ordinance will make it difficult to spread his amazing work.
41. Justin Birchard | May 11, 2008 at 2:40 am
It is already hard enough to make an honest living as a musician. We don’t need City Hall making it even harder.
Chicago is a place of innovation and creativity… let’s keep it that way.
Otherwise great bands will find new homes, and the soul of the city will be gone.
Please reconsider this ordinance!
42. David Kav | May 11, 2008 at 2:48 am
Speaking on behalf of those of us who make their living meagerly as artists, this ordinance is beyond absurd!
Being a lifelong resident of the Chicagoland area, I have always bragged about the rich, diverse, infinitely creative and fruitful possibilities that one can have as an artist in this beautiful city. Passing this unnecessary ordinance will stifle not only performances, but will tarnish the history and heritage that Chicago has built its name upon.
I’m posting this EVERYWHERE that I possibly can. Please – help me to preserve the faith that I have in “That Toddlin’ Town.” Please – help me to continue to brag about our lovely “Windy City.” Please – help me to continue to stand on our “Big Shoulders” and to help the forthcoming artists of the future continue to enrich Chicago.
How, you ask? By turning down this Ordinance.
I leave with this final thought. Remember the 1994 MLB strike? If you view ANY MLB game on television, you can see NUMEROUS empty seats. The reason: MLB has never fully recovered from the greed that spoiled our National Pastime. PLEASE – DON’T LET THAT HAPPEN TO OUR CULTURE IN CHICAGO!
Thank you for your time, consideration and help in advance.
Peace, love and LIVE ART IN CHICAGO!
David Kav
43. David Kav | May 11, 2008 at 3:16 am
Just posted a link on my web site to this site. It’s the first link that you’ll see on my Links page. SAVE CHICAGO CULTURE!
David Kav
44. Jennifer Gage | May 11, 2008 at 3:21 am
This is BEYOND disgusting. Words can not express how disturbing this is. Beyond all the points made, do you think ANY shows could survive this? Really. Without the “little” there is no “big.” Artists have to become inspired by something and have to have a little practice along the way. In short, Chicago can not thrive on HUGE venues alone.
45. sarah potenza | May 11, 2008 at 3:28 am
Unfair, and unexceptable! it’s not hard enough being an artists. the city wants a piece of everything, we cannot let this happen!
46. gina Picchi | May 11, 2008 at 5:47 am
Help support Musicians not push them away. Spread the word.
47. NatureDevil | May 11, 2008 at 5:49 am
This will be up at http://www.NatureDevil.com as well… I’d comment on this here but my use of language would not benefit anyone.
I wish someone would go and bulldoze an aldermans’ house or the Mayors’ house to put up a parking lot or an aquarium.
48. Kathleen Herrebout | May 11, 2008 at 5:54 am
This ordinance is crazy. How can small local artists perform? What are fundraisers supposed to do, only bake sales? Stop all this micromanaging and let culture continue. We need to encourage, not eliminate.
49. Courtney Hunt | May 11, 2008 at 7:27 am
I admit I was neutral about this law when I read the details above, but after reading all the passionate and heartfelt comments, I have to add my voice to the opposition. If there are already good laws on the books, there’s no reason to add unnecessary bureaucratic hoops that too many decent, law-abiding people wouldn’t be able to jump through. Besides, as others have noted, the laws themselves won’t prevent a disaster – only proper monitoring and enforcement will.
50. Kelley Smith | May 11, 2008 at 7:45 am
I have done promotions, to help venues and bands. This would completely affect that work, which I do for free (as a hobby). This is ludicrous!
No other area has this type of law. Nothing good will come out of charging people to enrich other lives with their music.
This is just one more thing that will make it harder to hear GOOD music. Record labels have enough power as it is.
Please do not allow this to pass!
51. Nicole Zwicker | May 11, 2008 at 7:55 am
This is terrible. I know so many hard working and talented musicians here and this sort of thing would crush them and all of our amazing small venues. There is an incredible culture of independent music and art here. Don’t do this!
52. You need to get your act together | May 11, 2008 at 7:56 am
I agree that there are problems with the ordinance, but I have not seen one valid rational complaint against this eg:
I won’t be able to get insurance because I am so small (I have found this to be a problem)
There is no reason that I should increase my liablity by adding the City on the insurance
The $500 dollars that I would have to pay semi-annually would be more than I could afford and would hurt my bottom line.
If you plan on just complaining, it won’t work — you need valid reasons for the city to listen.
poster — this is a blog and all coments should be postes as long as they are not inapropriate. You have not posted a few of my similar posts. This is a valid comment and important for people to know they need to get deeper into this issue than – It’s going to hurt us.
53. Peter from Chicagp | May 11, 2008 at 7:56 am
Another way to grab revenue and control who does business in the city. And ultimately it leaves more music unheard. Sad, sad, sad. Please help defeat this ordinance as it will help snuff out an already dying cultural scene in the city.
54. Leo Back-Violet Vicious and The Vagabonds | May 11, 2008 at 8:23 am
As always the politicians use overkill to address an issue-what happened to cause this has little connection to what the results of this stupid ordinance will be. VOTE NO!!!
55. Myrna Vazquez | May 11, 2008 at 8:31 am
Don’t you people have anything to do, but sit around and make up stupid laws that bilk money from those who least likely can afford it? What is this? I’m about this close to gettin’ out of dodge. And then what will you have. Nothin’ left but the gunslingers!!!
Disgusted with the lot of you… why don’t you all just give yourself a raise and really get people mad.
MK
56. susan | May 11, 2008 at 8:31 am
Don’t stop the music!
Large cities need little people to make it vibrant.
Requiring large sums of money to play at small venues will make the small venues disappear, which in a small leap will make large amounts of city revenue disappear.
Chicago! Look at the bigger picture. This will cost much, much more than it could possibly generate.
57. Ted Norstrom | May 11, 2008 at 8:55 am
I’ll just echo what Michael said “The laws that are currently in place cover everything that is espoused by this “Law”. If the original laws had been enforced at E2 there would never have been a problem. Do not eliminate the music community from performing in Chicago!”
58. Michael Crawford | May 11, 2008 at 9:07 am
What can we do to stop this?!
59. Elisabeth Blair | May 11, 2008 at 9:07 am
Do you guys realize it’s even more awful than it seems at first glance? It’s not $500 flat, it’s $500 FOR EACH VENUE a promoter works with. That is complete insanity.
60. Jenny Blair | May 11, 2008 at 9:10 am
As a purely practical matter, this will shut down or drive out small-time performers who do their own promotions. Either that or they will be operating illegally.
1. They cannot afford to pay $500 even once, let alone per venue. Some small artists play in dozens of venues around the city while doing their own promotions. Dozens x $500 = finished.
2. They cannot afford to pay the projected $300-$700 per year (the City Council’s Efrat Stein’s number, not mine) for liability insurance.
3. Enforcing this law will be expensive, erratic, and altogether impractical. Which police are going to be cruising nightclubs looking at promoters’ licenses?
4. Even operating illegally will be difficult because venue owners are also criminalized by using unlicensed promoters. Read the ordinance (on Jim DeRogatis’ blog or at the City Council’s website).
5. Anyone under 21 is legislated out. This is the time of life when talent flowers. Young musicians and comedians will have to leave the city limits to perform.
6. And, regarding leaving the city limits, just driving across town is becoming terribly expensive. People with four or five musical instruments can’t just hop on the train, either.
7. Any law experts reading this? How is this not a First Amendment violation?
People who can should come to the City Council meeting. It’s on Wednesday, May 14th, at 10 AM, at 121 N. LaSalle, 2nd Floor. Make a small sign you can wave inside (or, if you can’t get in, outside) the building.
Please, also, call your alderman. Here’s how to find out who your alderman is: http://www.chicityclerk.com/citycouncil/alderman/find.html
61. distinctivecoaching | May 11, 2008 at 9:38 am
Chicago has a rich and storied local performing arts tradition that must be kept intact.
There may be a larger picture at stake here as well. I can see this new law not only limiting performing arts for both performers and audiences, but also other events that require promotion such as recreational, educational and professional development classes, workshops and activities.
Please vote to secure and continue Chicago’s diverse, proud cultural offerings.
Sincerely,
Jason Rosado
Owner, http://www.DistinctiveCoaching.com
62. Teri Gidwitz | May 11, 2008 at 9:41 am
This is ridiculous. Is our city government intentionally trying to destroy a vibrant arts and music culture? Have these alderman thought about the ramification of this ordinance? People who can afford to make choices will choose to live some place other than Chicago, where the the arts and performance are nurtured and encouraged, and where actions of the local government don’t contribute to the continued “Walmartization” and homogenization of our lifestyle and our choices.
I will send this to my friends and colleagues who will undoubtedly clamor to protest this ordinance.
63. Diana Rein | May 11, 2008 at 9:43 am
I am outraged at what this will do to our artistic community that I feel is so special and unique. Chicago is where I felt a true artist could perform their art and still be able to pay the bills. This is a town where I felt that artists were encouraged and this is everything but that. I am in shock that someone would even come up with this madness and shut down a significant chunk of amazing venues that don’t cater to the “mainstream BS”. I lived in Los Angeles for quite awhile and I wouldn’t stop hearing about how Chicago Theatre is the best and I am not talking about touring companies. I am talking about Underground Theatre where so many celebrities that Chicago prides itself on, got their start. I came back to Chicago because I felt that I could really start from the ground up and build a name for myself doing my music. Now that opportunity is going to be washed away and people will get out of here in no time. Artists will go where they are appreciated and Chicago will have zero color anymore, it will be stale and dead without Art. Going to Buddy Guy’s Legends for the first time was unbelievable. I was so thankful to see one of my inspirations so up close and personal. It was one of the most pivotal moments of my life and I am sure for others. Now, generations to come wouldn’t be able to have that life altering experience because of this irrational law.
I will send this to all of the artists that I know and sane people that wouldn’t have even imagined such a filthy law. Way to support artists Chicago. You have disappointed us greatly.
Diana Rein
64. Jim | May 11, 2008 at 9:47 am
If this passes this will end whatever growth the city has had in it’s cultural identity. This CANNOT become a reality. City government PLEASE look around. You have tourists coming in from all over the world, convention participants looking for something to do. If you have no local talent performing because they can’t afford a ridiculous $300,000 liability policy then you will have an awful hard time competing for convention business which already is hard enough. Cities like Orlando and Las Vegas have taken enough away. I grew up in this city and am very proud of what we have accomplished. Please don’t ruin it!
65. Ed Cline | May 11, 2008 at 9:59 am
The power hungry, forever tax increasing, gestapo like political machne that runs this city needs to be stopped when and where possible to protect the future of Chicago.
66. Carole McCurdy | May 11, 2008 at 10:07 am
A city that claims to support a flourishing arts scene would be hypocritical and foolish to pass an ordinance like this. These fees and strictures would effectively prevent emerging performers from developing and sharing their work, and Chicago would see a rapid withering of its cultural scene. And, if the Council has the financial interests of the city in mind, it will not pass this ordinance: imposing these fees would reduce Chicago’s cultural capital enormously, and in short order the city’s nightlife/entertainment industry (small and large venues alike) would see negative economic effects.
67. Curtis Larkin | May 11, 2008 at 10:13 am
This is absolutely foolish. Touring and live performance is a critical revenue stream for performing artists. The ripple effect this could have on the banged-up music industry could be significantly damaging.
68. Tara Dettore | May 11, 2008 at 10:15 am
I think this is absolutely insane!
69. Brian Leli | May 11, 2008 at 10:24 am
This is outrageous and unnecessary.
The CMC put it best…
“The ordinance will reduce the amount of music in Chicago, make events more expensive for consumers, dampen the large and growing economic engine that is Chicago music, and create a much less supportive business climate for Chicago’s small music business community.”
Outrageous and unnecessary.
70. Rachel Rossner | May 11, 2008 at 10:26 am
I urge the City of Chicago’s City Council not to pass this destructive measure.
71. Greg Fundis | May 11, 2008 at 10:53 am
Don’t do it Chicago! Keep the local independant music scene and touring artists alive and thriving. Small businesses, big ambition!
72. Mark Shallow | May 11, 2008 at 11:01 am
There is a terribly misguided notion alive in this country that the arts must be, first and foremost, about money. One look at the culture of Hollywood is enough – but, the hand of greed has also reached into the cultural life of Chicago. A few years ago, a number of small theatres were perempotorily closed down, some as the the curtain was about to go up on the evening’s performance. This is elitism at its very worst – and now, we have the “Promoters Ordinance”, which would effectively strangle the life out of small theatres where some of the most entertaining shows are offered every week. It has been my privilege and pleasure to be a part of these shows, and it saddens me no end that this heavy-handed ordinance is even being discussed. I protest this is vehemently as is possible. It is wrong, it is grossly unfair and it ought to be stopped dead in its tracks.
73. Eric Mahle | May 11, 2008 at 11:18 am
As a musician and sound engineer at a 375 cap. venue, I strongly oppose this ordinance. Not only is the small venue circuit my livelyhood and only means of employment, it’s also my love and social network. Chicago is one of the best independent music cities in the world. Let’s kep it that way!
74. Linda Cain | May 11, 2008 at 11:32 am
If the city council passes this ill-conceived ordinance, it will forever be known as “The Day the Music Died.” Throughout its history, Chicago has been world-renowned for its music and culture. I would respectfully ask that the elected officials reconsider and vote against this Promoter’s Ordinance which will surely damage our wonderful music scene beyond repair.
Linda Cain
Publisher/Managing Editor
Chicago Blues Guide
75. Harv Mayerowicz | May 11, 2008 at 11:33 am
Someone hasn’t thought this out. Dear City Council,
please do not kill the gestation grounds for new, creative artistic enterprises that makes Chicago Chicaago and not Indianapolis.
Thank you,
Harv Mayerowicz
(not a youth anymore, but a Baby Boomer, athough I’m mostly boomed out)
76. Tiffani Hillin | May 11, 2008 at 11:57 am
This is an insult to the human soul. Nothing can justify this and it must be stopped.
77. Meghan O'Connell | May 11, 2008 at 11:59 am
Please add me to the petition.
78. The Kids | May 11, 2008 at 12:08 pm
Think about the effects of this in the long term.
Because smaller bands/promoters can’t afford to pay, few new acts/promoters will be able to establish themselves, effectively leaving us with only big-name, corporate-sponsored events now and especially in the future.
Please, please don’t let it happen. Do it for the kids who thrive on tiny shows and unknown bands, the ones in bands themselves.
Don’t push them all out to different corners of the suburbs.
79. distinctivecoaching | May 11, 2008 at 12:09 pm
Here’s the Sun-Times article on the matter: http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/938133,nightweb050808.article
But there may be a larger picture to the performing arts and civil liberties at stake here.
I can see this new ordinance not only limiting promoting of concerts but also opening the door to hindering small theatrical and performing arts events, recreational and cultural festivals, and educational and professional development classes, workshops and activities.
How does this potential law define “event promoter” and “venue”?
Where does that line get drawn that inhibits our right to free speech that facilitates our right to assemble, for cultural or civil purposes?
Please do not let this ordinance pass, and help secure and continue Chicago’s diverse, proud cultural offerings.
Sincerely,
Jason Rosado
Business Coach and Owner
Distinctive Coaching
80. Jen Porter | May 11, 2008 at 12:27 pm
As a working musician in Chicago it would be a complete shame to see this ordinance passed. Chicago has systematically been giving up their pleasures for “progress”. New condos continue to overrun downtown and put good restaurants and bars out of business, never to be heard from again, replaced by a Starbucks and a Chipotle.
PLEASE DON’T TAKE AWAY OUR THRIVING CULTURAL SCENE – IT”S ALL WE HAVE LEFT!!!
81. Marty Ryczek | May 11, 2008 at 12:28 pm
This ordinance will not improve safety for club patrons, but it will hurt Chicago’s culture and economy. So who is going to benefit?
82. Matthew Cummings | May 11, 2008 at 12:35 pm
Chicago is known as the worlds capital of the underground arts culture. It seems to me the city wants in on the action and in doing so they will destroy it. This ordinance is a capitalistic perversion. The city is praying on people who can barely make rent, and rarely make any money off their art. Believe me they pay plenty in taxes to the city in the 4 other jobs they have.
83. Dana Bloom | May 11, 2008 at 12:48 pm
The Arts/Culture in Chicago need more freedom not more rules. Chicago needs to encourage artistic expression, and find new ways to fund it, not look for ways to stifle it with unnecessary rules and unfair charges. We need creative people in The City Council .
Say it isn’t so.
84. Betty Dayron | May 11, 2008 at 12:52 pm
It’s scary to think what could really happen if the city council rubber stamped this overly broad piece of legislation and it was enforced..
Please… slow down and consider the potential damage to the cultural life of the city… slow down and construct legislation, if you must, that solves some of the existing problems without creating gigantic new ones..
85. Desiree Irwin | May 11, 2008 at 12:58 pm
This is absurd. The reality of what artists do is obviously misunderstood by The City Council.
86. nik wielgus | May 11, 2008 at 1:04 pm
how could you even think that this would help the city? most of the showcase venues/bars/cafes income is from bands/artists and they are setup by the artists themselves…so no setup, no show, no money, end of business. This will effectively kill the fragile state of Chicago’s new found economy. Performing arts are the second highest (non big-business) prophet to come into the city, so to not have that is a blow to all you know and love about the city. Not to many tourists want to stick around if all the see is a couple of tall buildings and a fountain. All the little guys that cannot book shows will; have to form “new underground venues” where there will be no city revenue or license tax or security or safe shows!!
What about the artistes how make a living off of the scene in the city how can they afford to live here any more with no income from there profession. Most will have to move and that will kill the economy even faster. You should really take another look at the vagueness of this proposition and do a rewrite on this before it’s to late !
87. patricia kovar | May 11, 2008 at 1:05 pm
Please do not permit this ordinance. Chicago is well-known world-over for it’s theatrical, musical, comedic creative theatre that is locally created and produced.
Pat Kovar
88. Brian Toth | May 11, 2008 at 1:33 pm
Well folks once again we need to follow the money trail. I’m sure that this is no different than when your vaunted thieving government put many of people out of work and inconvenienced others by closing Meigs Field. There are dozens of highly talented artists who will be put out of work by this ordinance and Chicago will become a creative ghost town. At first only the artists/musicians will be gone, but eventually the city’s economy will suffer, not only will the artists and musicians suffer, so will the clubs and the surrounding restaurants. All in the name of lining a few individual pockets.
Don’t do it Chicago!
89. David Leonardis | May 11, 2008 at 1:38 pm
Sounds to me like a bunch of fat cats that need to justify being overpaid by taxing the people that bring culture to the city.
Culture is supposed to be more important than corruption.
And while you’re at it all the people that are trying to save the music here need to buy some art and that will bring this whole situation some good luck.
Art collectors are better more well rounded luckier people. It’s a fact.
Put your money where your mouth is. I know I do.
You know who you are.
90. Gretchen Hasse | May 11, 2008 at 2:11 pm
PLEASE, realize that the vibrant, independent art scene is one of the things that keeps Chicago on the map. It is the main reason many neighborhoods have developed so rapidly in the past 20 years. Why would you want to kill something that nurtures so much good? If this measure is passed, Chicago would have no original, interesting performing arts to lure the curious and discriminating. No reason for creative, vibrant people to put down roots here. This ordinance is insanity.
91. Jordon P{opp | May 11, 2008 at 2:18 pm
As a musician trying to make a living playing music, doing this is basically killing my dream, and the dreams of thousands of artists.
92. Richard Wood | May 11, 2008 at 2:23 pm
This Is Bogus
93. Lily Wilcock | May 11, 2008 at 2:39 pm
If you didn’t think we are living in a police state before, you can’t deny it now. This is disgusting, to think people might go to jail for having a concert, or promoting an event is absolutely disgusting.
94. Colleen Sterling | May 11, 2008 at 2:44 pm
This is madness!! I really enjoy all the oportunities the city has to offer and this would definetley stifle the culture, music and art scene! We need to get the silver shovel out for the bozo that would like to institute this ordinance!!
Please count me in with the vote against this.
95. Brit | May 11, 2008 at 3:00 pm
I’m disgusted.
96. Brenda Bouschard | May 11, 2008 at 3:03 pm
I spent 15 years in Chicago working as an entertainer, and I can’t imagine what the City Council is thinking to try and pass such an ordinance as this! In a city I thought really embraced the cultured arts, I find it deplorable, at the same time amazing, that this Chicago City Council could even remotely consider an act that would snuff out the city’s legitimate entertainment scene further than it has already. NO, absolutely NOT, to this proposed ordinance! Looks to me like an attempt to bleed more money out of people already struggling in the first place who can’t afford it, and in the longrun NOTHING will be accomplished. Instead, a continued deterioration of the facade that the City of Chicago actually CARES about entertainment there. I think not. I lived there, I know what they’ve done to live entertainment over the last 20 years, and the City of Chicago should be ashamed of itself for squelching the Arts like it has. STOP IT, ALREADY!
97. Cheyenne Pinson | May 11, 2008 at 3:11 pm
as if it isn’t hard enough to get by as a performer in the city! LET CREATIVE VOICES SPEAK! mainstream acts are NOT what makes chicago’s cultural scene what it is. don’t let this pass!!
98. Nick Vandevelde | May 11, 2008 at 3:21 pm
Stand up for the people who aren’t able to afford $500 a gig, lets continue to have Chicago as a place for new artists so be heard and discovered. That won’t happen if promoters can’t afford to book a band or a solo artist can’t pay the fee….on top of all the other costs of being a musician.
99. TRJM | May 11, 2008 at 4:07 pm
This ordinance is a disaster! We cannot let it pass!
TRJM
100. Matt Cramer LSW | May 11, 2008 at 4:10 pm
I’ve lived in Chicago most of my life, and intend to stay here. This is my town and I love it! But when I read this ordinance I think: “Will Chicago go from being Someplace…to just Anyplace!”
I urge all members of the Chicago City Council to re-consider this ordinance and far reaching consequences it will have on dampening the spirit and creative energy of our fair city.
101. cheryl szucsits | May 11, 2008 at 4:23 pm
How could a mass exodus out of the city of some of the most talented artists in the nation at the passing of this ordinance possiby be beneficial? That’s exactly what will happen if this is passed. The economy cannot be sustained by “mainstream” alone… nor should that be the only option available. Not to mention that mainstream is not what made this city the cultural mecca it is… you’ll be destroying the proud legacy of live entertainment that helped make this city famous and continues to make it a beautiful, colorful and creative tapestry. And now they’re threatening to destroy the very foundation of Chicago’s cultural scene. I came here because this is a city that supposedly prides itself on and embraces it’s artistic culture at every level. Well, the heart and soul of the cultural community does feel that way… how sad, how very sad that the ones making this absurd ordinance apparently haven’t a clue what that means.
This ordinance is a huge, HUGE mistake! DO NOT SILENCE THE CREATIVITY!!
102. Chicago Music Project | May 11, 2008 at 4:23 pm
As a supporter of all things Chicago and Chicago music, the Chicago Music Project proudly stands against this ordinance. Chicago is the sleeping giant of the music industry. Passing this wold kill it before it wakes.
103. Brandon Warrick | May 11, 2008 at 4:27 pm
As someone that makes their living from performing original music i see this ordinance as a threat to not only my livelihood, but my freedom of speech as well. Please vote no on this ordinance that will cripple creativity in chicago and destroy a local music scene that many other cities throughout the world only wish to have!!
104. Eric Nielsen | May 11, 2008 at 4:32 pm
If you plan on just complaining, it won’t work — you need valid reasons for the city to listen.
In the end, this will be terrible for the city of Chicago, but not necessarily for musicians. Artists will continue to play, just not in Chicago, which will result in less revenue for the city.
See you guys in the suburbs!
105. Perry Bax | May 11, 2008 at 4:48 pm
Perhaps the subtext to this will be revealed some day, as it is obviously serving someone who is lurking in the shadows upstairs protecting their large empire from the mortals who might also like to play the game . . .
Perry Bax/Chicago
The Best Radio You Have Never Heard
http://www.bestradiopodcast.com
106. Andrew Jewell | May 11, 2008 at 5:00 pm
As a resident of the outer Chicagoland suburbs I am again appalled at the City of Chicago’s resiliency in practice of sheer incompetence
107. Marci A. Rolnik | May 11, 2008 at 5:00 pm
The proposed legislation adds an untenable level of hassle and expense to the already challenging effort for Chicago’s local music scene to publicize performances. Take your average starting five man band. Odds are that the band members are in their early twenties and, at best, leave each show with a hundred bucks or so in pocket. Most have never met with an attorney nor do they see the need for it.
It is hard enough to get bands to recognize that they are in business and that they have a host of legal matters to get under control. Is the city suggesting that we penalize them for passing out cds and hand bills and going online to tell their fans to come out for their shows?
Are we now going to label these artists “promoters” and require that the band, its members, street team, personal manager, tour manager, booking agent, promoter and/or publicist all obtain a license simply to tell the public about an upcoming performance?
This only adds another layer of red tape to making it as a band. It is hard enough to get noticed now that anyone can record an album and put it online. We are saturated with music, and as a result, getting fans to come to shows has become an art form in itself.
What is the criteria to obtain the license? What if it is denied? Are we really telling performing artists that they can’t tell their friends and fans to come see them on stage in the event that the venue has a capacity range that falls within the purview of the law?
Right now we have more and more promising bands in Chicago and some serious momentum. The Chicago Music Commission has provided some unity, and we have reports from a recent University of Chicago study, documenting substantial revenue and jobs generated by the Chicago music economy.
This law will put a dent in our potential to grow as an entertainment city. I do not support the current draft and hope that the city council reconsiders the target group and definition of promoter, which as it stands, is far too broad.
Marci A. Rolnik
mrolnik@law-arts.org
108. Monica Leigh | May 11, 2008 at 5:08 pm
This ordinance would stifle so much creativity in this great city of ours. We need to keep our arts scene the way it is! Please vote against this.
Monica Leigh
lead singer of Reel Jem
109. Jeff Churchwell | May 11, 2008 at 5:08 pm
Chicago, Don’t Punish mE2.
Does the Chicago City Council seriously believe that handcuffing legitimate music promoters and, by extension, the musicians they are trying to promote, will have the intended effect of stopping the underground raves and the willful breaking of existing laws by people who’s only interest is making a buck while risking lives? Is the City Council simply trying to assuage five years worth of guilt over E2, without taking into account the hundreds of events annually that are promoted and held legally and responsibly, bringing legitimate revenue streams into City coffers without breaking that backs of those who provide it? Can the City logically claim that the proposed ordinance will benefit more people than it harms?
The clear answer to all of these questions is “NO.”
So, tell the City, “NO!” We must keep this ordinance, and it’s draconian methods and proposals, off the books.
Chicago, don’t punish mE2.
Jeff Churchwell
Hawk From A Handsaw
110. A Taxpaying Citizen | May 11, 2008 at 5:31 pm
Since the taxpayers of this city were not given an opportunity
to publicly respond to this backdoor political maneuver, let
our voices be heard now. Stop this ordinance. The people
have spoken.
111. Christopher Todd Durnil | May 11, 2008 at 5:38 pm
As one who promoted the local music scene in Chicago for six years, I find this act by the city government to be a JOKE! First of all, rarely do venues pay bands much more than the bare minimum, which doesn’t even come close to the amount the city is asking per event. So who’s to cover these charges? The venues? That ain’t gonna happen!!! And the promoter? Well, after spending money to promote the shows, there’s next to nothing (and I mean NOTHING) left – so why would I shell out more to the city??? The whole concept is INSANE!!!
Once again, I guess this is the price you have to pay to live in a corrupt city. I’m glad I moved – maybe now the downstate scene will thrive!
F*ck the city of Chicago!
112. lisa danielson | May 11, 2008 at 5:59 pm
as a local chicago musician and music fan, i am appalled that chicago would even consider such a thing. the local music scene is part of what makes chicago what it is. people here love live music. i love live music…and i love performing for other people. i would love to have more information about signing this petition and making sure this doesn’t happen to this wonderful city.
113. Zach Weinberg | May 11, 2008 at 6:04 pm
This news comes at a most upsetting time. In the last few months it seems like the independent DIY (Do it yourself) scene in Chicago has become stronger than ever before! This legislation will only effect small time independent promoters that are actually working to provide a vibrant music scene for our city, and not the ones that run music as if it were a business! This is a direct assault against the “little guy”, hindering mostly the independent/underground scene, which has made a name for itself in Chicago. This will ruin a culture that is much prided in our city.
Zach Weinberg
Musician/DIY Supporter
Radio DePaul
114. Carl Dabrowski | May 11, 2008 at 6:08 pm
This ordinance is compleatly insane! It will cause a lot of buisness to just up and disapear! Chicago has always been known for its great local misic scene. How can these bands be heard if the promoters have to jump through hoops just to made it possible? How about you stick to getting gangs off the street, drug dealers behind bars, AND LEAVE OUT MUSIC ALONE!!! Im glad to hear that the Chicago goverment has its priorities straight!!!
115. Melissa Brown | May 11, 2008 at 6:12 pm
This is grossly unfair to everyone who works in the entertainment industry in any way! With the economy being what it is, everyone is already struggling just to make ends meet. Is the city of Chicago trying to put every bar and nightclub, as well as every entertainer and marketing person completely put of business now?
116. Alan Carter | May 11, 2008 at 6:16 pm
Does Chicago still want to be called the second city? With ordinances like this, it won’t even make the top ten. The arts, especially music, are a vital, absolutely necessary part of our culture. A society that suppresses artistic freedom through bureaucratic ineptitude is well on the road to oblivion.
117. mickey | May 11, 2008 at 6:21 pm
As a local musician i find this truely disturbing, venues and music are already on the decline, this might be the death of some classic venues and the praised arts of chicago.
for some reason i doubt the council will listen to the people who this will hurt. they will pass this as a law, screwing over an entire culture, but im sure their bank accounts will make them happy.
for an aweosme city chicago sure sucks at helping the people who live here.
118. Ami (Destined Apostle Vocals) | May 11, 2008 at 6:29 pm
As a musician, I am appalled at this ordinance. Its hard enough to find places to play at and to find promoters who don’t screw you over on your payment. I have played countless shows without pay because of crooked promoters. Our band has opted to book our own shows and keep our scene pure and about the music. Promoters ruin a lot of good things when it comes to bands who play on the smaller circuit in bars. If this ordinance passes, it will be a very gloomy day for Chicago music. I bet it will get to the point where there aren’t any bands signed from Chicago because it will be impossible for us to play. Promoters in Chicago generally shy away from certain types of music. Passing this ordinance is unfair to musicians.
119. Jeanne T. Arrigo | May 11, 2008 at 6:46 pm
As both a nonequity actor working with some of the finest small theatres in town, and as an independent singer-songwriter playing gigs of original music at small listening venues, the possibility of this ordinance passing SCARES ME TO DEATH!
How can the small, independent artist or small (read: “living on a shoestring budget and depending on art-loving audiences) theatre companies survive if this ordinance passes? Isn’t Chicago known for it’s diversity of culture, it’s cutting-edge artistic vision? How can this be continued if all that is left is “Broadway-In-Chicago,” Steppenwolf and Goodman, and national touring bands at thousand-seat venues? No offense to any of them – they are ALSO needed for artistic diversity – but the hidden gems of art are generally found in the grassroots, with those who are doing new, innovative things by following their hearts and souls. These are the artists who can DO this, b/c they are not yet beholden to corporate interests, or huge producing/booking houses/agencies.
Listen to some of our greatest artists whom I’ve quoted below, and don’t let the creativity and vision of those who would offer great art to the city on a small scale, suffer b/c they do not have huge venues or backers!!!
“The purpose of art is washing the dust of daily life off our souls.”
Pablo Picasso
“The object of art is to give life a shape.”
William Shakespeare
“Without art, the crudeness of reality would make the world unbearable.”
George Bernard Shaw
and most important, in light of my point:
“All great deeds and all great thoughts have a ridiculous beginning. Great works are often born on a street corner or in a restaurant’s revolving door.”
Albert Camus
PLEASE do not limit the diversity of creativity in Chicago by forcing an unreasonable, UNNECESSARY, and wholly outrageous fee on performers who will not be able to afford this, and therefore will not be able to share their art. THE ENTIRE CITY WILL SUFFER!!!
Believing that you will make the right decision -
Jeanne T. Arrigo
http://www.jeannetarrigo.com
120. Scott OKen | May 11, 2008 at 7:13 pm
That this is even being considered is unconscionable! Do you really want to stifle and destroy one of the things that makes this city one of the best in the nation? Do you really want to destroy people’s lives and liveleyhoods? Passing this ordinance will be one of the biggest mistakes in the history of this city. Don’t do it!
121. Mark Taylor | May 11, 2008 at 7:13 pm
this is the most outrageous thing ive ever seen! i pray that we are heard and this ridiculous ordinance doesnt see the light of day. disgusting.
122. Donna Frost | May 11, 2008 at 7:15 pm
I can’t believe what I have been reading. It’s mindboggling to think this BS is happening in Chicago! I’m a touring musician based out of Nashville and I play in Chicago several times a year. It breaks my heart to see the idiots in charge being such mercenaries. I have always thought that Chicago had such a cool music scene. Playing in Chicago and hanging out with Chicago musicians is always so uplifting to me.
To think artists and clubs are going to have to pay through the nose to present live music is outrageous. We already have a hard enough time out here trying to make a living doing what we love and the ever rising costs of gas makes it even more difficult. You are killing the arts, killing the soul of the city. I can assure you, we will not go quietly.
123. Dara Allen-Trainer | May 11, 2008 at 7:18 pm
The whole reason I moved to Chicago was the “storefront arts scene”. Eliminating this part of Chicago’s culture will destroy the city’s economy…and spirit.
124. Matt Sobczyk | May 11, 2008 at 7:23 pm
Go to: http://www.ci.chi.il.us:80/city/webportal/portalProgramAction.do?BV_SessionID=@@@@0477296502.1210555116@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccceadeedhehhhjcefecelldffhdfhl.0&programId=536879154&channelId=-536879035&topChannelName=Government, it lists aldermen by ward. You can click on your alderman’s name to get phone, address and e-mail. Let them know which side of this issue you are on. I believe Ald. Barnett is the sponsor of this bill, no matter what ward you live in, he should hear from you. I not only voted for my alderman, I displayed his signage on my property and intend to remind him of my support. Let’s fill up those mailboxes.
125. chris | May 11, 2008 at 7:35 pm
as if the music industry in this country isn’t bad enough? without the local and semi/national bands you would have nickelback! I like chad just fine but really, thats the only choice in rock?
126. Jaime | May 11, 2008 at 7:43 pm
Doesn’t the city council have anything better to do? This is ridiculous.
127. Andrew Madden | May 11, 2008 at 8:04 pm
if this law were passed, it would be similar to the idea of me losing the use of my arms; i could still learn to live my life, but it would never be the same. having worked, played, and been a patron in so many of these venues over the past 7 years, i have experienced so much joy and life and vibrance that i couldn’t imagine my life without it. if this really passed, chicago would no longer be one of the greatest cities in the world. stop the stupity and squash this extremely cruel joke into the ground. don’t take away the freedom to enjoy life.
128. TK | May 11, 2008 at 8:05 pm
This is ridiculous and will make it so no one can perform in Chicago anymore. IT will never get passed. E2 is to blame for this plain and simple.
129. Cassie | May 11, 2008 at 8:07 pm
Please do not ruin what I–and so many others–have and will continue to hold so dear to our hearts…the Chicago music scene…
130. Stephen Di Cicco | May 11, 2008 at 8:12 pm
Limiting the distribution and performance of art would not only be detremental to the culture of Chicago, but it would also destroy young artists the opprotunity to have a launching pad to be recognized. This in turn would create even more frustration and dull down the outlet for our local artist to pursue their dreams… and the peoples right to hear, see, taste and smell what Chicago artists and entertainers have to offer. The beautiful thing about true art of any kind is that corporations, city officals, and police officers are not involved in it. Mine as well hand Clear Channel a city key while you are at it. Leave us alone.
131. Jill Dawson | May 11, 2008 at 8:15 pm
So disheartening!! This is an example of a law where the originally intent is lost, and the unintended innocent are paying a hugh price. Musicians and performing artists already invest so much to pursuing their passions, most barely making ends meet as it is. Those brave enough to take this journey do not deserve to be penalized. The city will also suffer a great loss, with no doubt artists packing up and taking their crafts elsewhere … Chicagoans missing out on the soul-inspiring experience of live music & performance in it’s most organic states! Please stop this!
132. Tony Jones | May 11, 2008 at 8:16 pm
This simply can’t happen.
133. Kristin Mack | May 11, 2008 at 8:18 pm
unbelievable, with everything going up in price already, now entertainment? And where will up-and-coming bands play? we all enjoy music in different ways. We dont all want to go to expensive, crowded venues all the time and Im sure bands like playing formore intimate crowds too. Stop the ordinance!
134. Elizabeth Bagby | May 11, 2008 at 8:22 pm
One of the greatest parts of Chicago is its storefront arts scene. I moved here ten years ago for the theater community, have worked steadily since then, and have constantly been in awe at the talent and inventiveness of the artists here. It’s a safe bet that many of these opportunities simply would not have existed for me and these other artists if such an ordinance had been in place.
Make no mistake, it’s punishing. Almost no one makes a full-time living from theater here (no more than 20 actors, by one teacher’s estimate). We’re all doing this because we love it, and because the city’s a hotbed of talent–we all learn from each other. Most of us have day jobs and grueling schedules. On top of that, those of us with small theater companies have hours of unpaid administrative work, dealing with other Chicago restrictions like PPA licenses. Another pointless licensing requirement with a prohibitive fee could be enough to make quite a few talented artists throw up their hands and move to New York.
But beyond the personal impact to the thousands of us who make art, Chicago needs to think seriously about the fact that people move to a city–and spend their money there–because they perceive it has a creative culture. If your Friday-night choices are limited to the same multiplex movies and ClearChannel bands you could find in the suburbs, what’s to stop you from moving to the suburbs, where the rent is lower anyway? This is the sort of thing that slowly kills a city.
135. Holly Shapiro | May 11, 2008 at 8:29 pm
Small venues offer emerging artists a chance to get their music heard and start building a reputation and audience.
136. Nick Digilio | May 11, 2008 at 8:38 pm
This is outrageous! Absurd. and downright idiotic. It can NOT happen and I will do anything within my power to make sure people get involved and protest this nonsense, and stop it from happening.. I have a radio show on WGN and you can bet your butt I will be talking about this tonight, spreading the word and causing a ruckus.
137. Tracy | May 11, 2008 at 8:44 pm
This is crazy!!!!! They just want to make life more difficult and expensive!!!
138. Jamie Gallagher - Andreas Kapsalis Trio | May 11, 2008 at 9:03 pm
Does this mean that my band can’t promote a show at a small/medium sized venue without a license? I’m not sure I completely understand all the ins-and-outs of this ordinance, but this great city houses THOUSANDS OF ARTISTS, and we shouldn’t have to deal with any more B.S. as it stands, especially if we currently engage in D.Y.I. methods of promo.
139. Adam Starodub | May 11, 2008 at 9:09 pm
Chicago’s music scene has long been regarded as one of the best, and that is because of the many options artists have within the city. By placing unrealistic expectations to put together an entertaining show, you not only stifle the careers of many aspiring artists, but also leave many people with one less thing to do.
With so much concern about out kids out on the streets killing each other, it seems counterproductive to put into motion an ordinance that could possibly lead to more of those children wandering streets doing things they shouldn’t. Attending a show is a great community feeling, and is greatly needed in this city at this time. Passing this ordinance would greatly jeopardize the safety of many of this city’s youth.
140. Sara | May 11, 2008 at 9:25 pm
I read this and felt ill. As an actor within this city, one of the most unique things we have is our bountiful Storefront Theatre community. Please PLEASE do not vote to destroy something that you should be proud of. The arts within the city of Chicago is a part of what makes us great.
Do NOT pass this ordinance…
141. Kimberly Johnson | May 11, 2008 at 9:31 pm
After reading about this ordinance, I believe not only is it hurting both your local artists and business owners, but this will be very detrimental to the economy. This will effect both the economy and the culture of Chicago. Chicago has been a mainstay and breeding ground for musicians, artists, comedians on both a local level and a national level to build careers and their art. The new ordinance would create a huge financial burden on the budding talent of the future and I believe would force these people to find alternate places to cultivate what Chicago was once known for cultivating. I truly hope that the Council reconsiders just what passing this ordinance would do to this city.
142. Paul | May 11, 2008 at 9:31 pm
You should be ashamed of yourselves. You are supposed to be a government for the people and yet all you ever do is serve the vulturous big businesses. This is just a way to try and make it harder for individuals to perform and promote themselves. If this is voted in I think we should sue both the city and any company associated with this. That is the only way these swine pay any attention, They are taking away our freedoms, and I am sure there are plenty of lawyers who would love to jump on that circus.
143. Chas Vrba- Factory Theater | May 11, 2008 at 9:33 pm
This is a hit that the Chicago simply can’t take. A bad idea for an ordinance that would simply stifle a very creative and prolific community.
144. Erik Childress | May 11, 2008 at 9:36 pm
Did the offspring of Mola Ram come up with this ridiculous ordinance? Don’t let them tear the heart out of this wonderful city we call Chicago!
145. Ryan Keller | May 11, 2008 at 9:36 pm
This would be an enormous tragedy!! How about we focus on more important things such as Chicago’s increasing murder rate.
146. Karen Forshall | May 11, 2008 at 9:37 pm
This is absolutel disgusting. One of the reasons I love living in the city of Chicago is the fact we have such a love for the arts. Being a young want-to-be actor myself, this hurts. A city with such an artistic past doing somethign like this? I’m dissapointed.
147. Tim | May 11, 2008 at 9:39 pm
As a lifelong Chicagoan who has enjoyed shows at small theaters here in the city, this has me deeply concerned. All of the things that make this city so special and unique are disappearing. Please don’t let this happen.
Tim
148. Austin | May 11, 2008 at 9:39 pm
This is so stupid!! Shutting down these small venues will not only put artists out in the cold, but production companies. Sound, lighting, video, etc… will not have as much gigs to do if this happens. These venues alow smaller and underground bands a chance to get their music out there. If there are no small venues, small bands will no longer have a chance. This can’t happen!!
149. tony m. | May 11, 2008 at 9:40 pm
what is my incentive to come into the city and spend my suburban money if so many creative and artistic venues are taken away…
this sounds like another short sighted idea that can only cause regret !!
150. Richard Dahl | May 11, 2008 at 9:43 pm
This makes no sense!!We should be expandingour arts base ,not closing it up.Vote this down!!!
151. mike | May 11, 2008 at 9:43 pm
this would keep thousands of people from displaying their creativity in this ciy. also it would keep many of us from seeing very good musical and theatrical shows. it would be a total disgrace for the city of chicago if this was approved.
152. Heather | May 11, 2008 at 9:44 pm
What is this city thinking? We just had Looptopia, which is an amazing event that celebrates so much of the culture of this city. Yet this law would affect these same people!!!! C’mon Chicago, think about what you’re doing!
153. Paul Gizel | May 11, 2008 at 9:45 pm
When you limit the city of Chicago to a few venues you are removing the blood and soul of of it’s culture. In other terms, you make it generic by stripping it of what makes Chicago such a memorable place.
154. Thom Cox | May 11, 2008 at 9:46 pm
This seems to me to be about revenue for the city under the guise of public safety, kindof like the seasonal speed limit changes on Lake Shore Drive. There must be businesses which have greater net profits to tax and which do not serve as diverse and wide-reaching a demographic as do the performing arts. Surely there are better ways to raise revenue than driving small arts organizations out of business in favor of artistic homogenization and control.
155. Joanne Liberman | May 11, 2008 at 9:47 pm
Event Promoters ordiance is the most outrageous bill that I have heard of in a long time. This is a bill
that MUST NOT be passed. Chicago is too important to have an ordiance such as this. Please inform all City Council members about my concern about this issue.
Thank you
Joanne Liberman
156. Mike Felten | May 11, 2008 at 9:48 pm
This lunacy is not only a strike against the culture of the city, but another blow at independent small business (how many small storefronts are for rent?)With the amount of sales tax that we have to pay and the diminshing diversity – there is going to be less and less of a reason to spend our dollars anywhere in Chicago. A Home Depot, Best Buy or Costco is the same outside of the city limits as within them and cheaper. You should be aiding and assisting every music venue and theater you can instead of giving them cause to move.
The tragedy at the unlicensed E2 was due to a police department and a city government allowing it to operate unsafely. Maybe we should license and tax the graft and corruption and let the rest of us try to make an honest dollar
157. Collin S | May 11, 2008 at 9:48 pm
So, tell me, what was the point of Looptopia? That was a free event comprised (mostly) of local artists who normally struggle to achieve 1% of the audience they had in the streets a couple weeks ago. So, what? Use these people to lure in the tourists and suburbanites and then turn around and slap these artists in the face with an ordinance they can’t possibly adhere to? It’s shameless and wrong-headed in every way.
When I have friends in from out of town, I don’t take them to see bloated Broadway shows they can watch on DVD. I take them to the Double Door, the Neo-Futurarium and any out-of-the-way venue that is unique to our city. These smaller venues are every bit as valuable to our city as anything on State Street, if not more. This ordinance must not happen.
158. Pete | May 11, 2008 at 9:48 pm
I travel out of the country often and whenever I tell People I’m from Chicago, they almost always say how lucky I am to be in such a beatiful City with the diverse Music and Arts that are available to me. Passing this law is a mistake. This law will stifle, and perhaps prohibit some, if not all, of the up and coming Artists of our time and even our children’s time.
159. Chris | May 11, 2008 at 9:48 pm
Leave well enough alone. Chicago is made up of a patchwork of neighborhoods. Each neighborhood has its own identity which is voice by the small venues of that particular hood. It won’t matter that the CTA can’t get you any place in a timely matter if there isn’t any place to go to.
160. Kevin | May 11, 2008 at 9:48 pm
This ordinance is an utterly ridiculous and disturbing idea!
161. L Solarz | May 11, 2008 at 9:49 pm
The purpose of this ordinance appears to be to generate money, as usual. But has the Council thought this through? Such an ordinance could cause a serious drop in attendance to the city’s smaller venues, and consequently hotels, restaurants, and other businesses that benefit from theatre/nightlife would suffer. Rather than generate income this ordinance will potentially mean the loss of revenue for the city. And its rising reputation for attracting unique, quality independent productions would soon fade.
162. Tom | May 11, 2008 at 9:49 pm
This ordinance is terrible and a blatant attempt to extort more money out of the citizens of Chicago and fatten the pockets of the corrupt politicians who rule this town with an iron fist.
It’s disgusting when I think about City of Chicago taking hard earned money to feed waste and political corruption. Find another way to creatively extort more money out of your citizens Daley. Tax some more water if you have to.
163. Kirk Wonio | May 11, 2008 at 9:51 pm
Please use common sense and realize that you will criple the local music scene. Chicago will NOT be the same if this ordinance passes. So please help to keep Chicago strong.
164. Victoria Carter | May 11, 2008 at 9:54 pm
All I go to is local music events… to take this away would be like taking the lake away, taking the sports life away, taking chicagos soul away. THIS ORDINANCE CANNOT BE PASSED!
165. Frank Coronado | May 11, 2008 at 9:54 pm
How dare Chicago call itself a world-class city when it can seriously consider enacting such idiocy and cultural suicide.
166. Erik Childress | May 11, 2008 at 9:57 pm
Did the offspring of Mola Ram suddenly take over the City Council? Do NOT let them tear the heart out of this wonderful city we call Chicago!
167. Christian Munoz | May 11, 2008 at 9:57 pm
Stop the Promoter’s Ordinance and Save Local Bands and Theater!
168. Katelyn S. | May 11, 2008 at 9:58 pm
Every day, it seems, Chicago loses another part of its identity: our important manufacturers leave, our iconic companies are sold and our landmarks are razed and replaced with cookie-cutter condos.
Perhaps the last, best hope for Chicago is our healthy performance scene — places like the Double Door, the Athenaeum, the Metro, and the list goes on.
As a person trying her best to carve out a career in a creative field in Chicago, I am grateful to be surrounded by these venues and the culture they support. If this ordinance is approved, I see no reason for these venues to stay in Chicago — and I, in turn, see no reason to stay in Chicago. I will follow the musicians, writers, actors and artists to LA or New York, or at least go north to Milwaukee — a city our own, I fear, will soon emulate. But hey, at least the rent is lower there.
169. Paul Lyons | May 11, 2008 at 9:58 pm
I think this law is wonderful. It makes sure that people who don’t belong in our city stay out. These “musicians” and “entertainers” think they can just create art any place, any time. But now we can force those people into going through the proper channels. They must submit to the will of the Chicago Police with fingerprinting and background check. After all, these are the people who are pushing drugs and alcohol on our youth! They’re criminals from the get-go. And if they think they’re going to do a show without asking the city and paying, they’ve got another thing coming! You can’t just do whatever you want!! You MUST at ALL TIMES have the consent and permission of the government. The only way to ensure a secure society is to stamp out all the possibilities of trouble brewing. And everyone knows: Unregulated art and music is the work of the devil!!!
170. David Kim | May 11, 2008 at 9:59 pm
I love this city, but the longer I live here, the more it infuriates me.
171. Janet Nicholas | May 11, 2008 at 9:59 pm
I live downstate but have lived in the Chicago area and many times enjoyed the smaller theater venues more than the bigger ones. This cannot happen. It just shows those who are running things have not a clue about the theater and music scene in the city. Just another way to squeeze money out of the ordinary citizen.
172. Ken Rozanski | May 11, 2008 at 10:01 pm
If the City has legitimate concerns about public safety at events, this should be addressed by enforcing existing safety regulations.
This sounds like just another way to sneak a new tax through. I am very concerned that this ordinance will put an unreasonable burden on the artistic community, and that it may eliminate many of the great cultural offerings which makes Chicago unique.
173. David Rocco Facchini | May 11, 2008 at 10:02 pm
This desperate and predatory proposal, is a slap in the face of the arts community. If passed, this will not only financially devastate creatives but also patrons of their venues. It means death to the independent and aspiring artists in this city. If the City of Chicago endorses the arts community, touting Maggie Daley as it’s staunchest advocate of the arts, then the response will be against this assanine bill. How many ways does the City of Chicago have to milk the fiscal life-blood out of its’ citizens before they respond? I’m disgusted by whomever the authors of this bill are. How do we find this out who is on this committee? I hope they get run out of town on a rail…
174. Jen C. | May 11, 2008 at 10:02 pm
If the City Council passes this ordinance, Chicago will lose its right to call itself a world-class city.
175. Will Riley | May 11, 2008 at 10:09 pm
I am a fourteen-year-old company member of the Cornservatory, a not-for-profit 46-seat theater that would be pushed to the brink of extinction by this ordinance. I have grown up around my fellow company members. They have been like a second family to me. I don’t know what I would do without them. And yet, all that is about to be taken away. And something is about to be taken away from the many Lincoln Square area families who thank us show after show for providing children’s theater at cheap prices to those who don’t have many other entertainment options. And those adults who come out for our mainstage shows. We are constantly being told how much people appreciate us being there. These are the kind of personal stories that I would encourage the City Council to consider before voting. This bill will effectively ruin their constituent’s lives. So, with that in mind, I hope they will have the sense to vote Nay on Wednesday.
176. Steve | May 11, 2008 at 10:09 pm
This has to be some sort of sick joke.
Tax and regulate the best things about Chicago out of existence?
I’m fairly convinced everyone on the city council who supports this law is secretly working for the tourism bureaus of other Midwestern cities. I mean, that has to be it. Is there any other explanation for this sort of idiocy?
177. Lacy Coil | May 11, 2008 at 10:10 pm
This is absolutely, unequivocally, a ridiculous proposition. Self-produced theater and performance is what makes Chicago unique and vibrant. Without the foundation of storefront theater, every other theater in this town would fall. Virtually no actors would work, no original work would be produced.
178. vanessa | May 11, 2008 at 10:11 pm
what the hell?!! what do they want chicago to become?? this ordinance is ridiculous! if this passes then so many performers won’t perform, which means nobody will go see any performances, which means lost money, which means eventually this adds to the downfall of the economy. chicago will go down!! oh noo!!!
add my name to the list.
179. James P. | May 11, 2008 at 10:11 pm
I’ve always loved Chicago for its great arts programs. If this passes, I’ll move this year.
180. Linda Taylor | May 11, 2008 at 10:11 pm
I live in Evanston, but I enjoy going to chicago for entertainment. If this ordianance is passed it would greatly limited my engagements. I hope that it doesn’t pass!!! I really don’t like crowds of prople and small gatherings are so much more enjoyable.
181. Emjay | May 11, 2008 at 10:13 pm
Do the math… if you have a 12 piece band and you’re only being paid $700-$800 for a show (which is what a lot of bars only pay), how do you pay a $500 licensing fee and pay your band members too? Would you go to work for $16.66-$25 for a night’s work? Never mind what it costs you to park in the city to play that venue. That’s less than minimum wage.
I doubt anyone in the city council would cross the street for that amount of money.
182. mari | May 11, 2008 at 10:13 pm
this must not pass…..i love this city and the wonderful creative energy artist bring to it….if this passes you will destroy what makes this city so unique and brillant!!!!
183. Generation Love | May 11, 2008 at 10:14 pm
Add me to the list of those who support the underground Chicago art scene.
Thank You,
Love
184. joel witte | May 11, 2008 at 10:16 pm
who in their right mind would approve this
why would you knowingly strip chicago of such a HUGE part of its culture
this is rediculous
185. Robert Weinstock | May 11, 2008 at 10:16 pm
This is a terrible idea. Chicago’s small theater companies and music venues are vital to our cultural scene. I hope the City Council will realize how much of a negative impact this would have and they do the right thing by voting against this ordinance.
186. Save Art | May 11, 2008 at 10:17 pm
Typical of politicians….have no clue of what makes Chicago special…which is that grass roots culture exists in the walls and flors throughout the city.
187. Robert Pawelek | May 11, 2008 at 10:22 pm
This is Insane
I hope my First Ward Alderman votes no
This is a slap in the face for everyone in the City of Chicago
add my name to the petition
188. Nick Santiago | May 11, 2008 at 10:25 pm
THIS CANNOT BE ALLOWED! Though I’ve yet to partake in many of the cultural offerings the city has to offer this would be a tragedy if it goes through.
189. Mike Feldheim | May 11, 2008 at 10:28 pm
As usual, the City Council, is wasting its time focusing on things that are not major issues. Chicago is known for it’s neighborhood theatre companies and small bar venues! And not they want to get to rid of them? Somehow I would bet there is money involved somewhere! THIS CANNOT CONTINUE! Kill this ordinance before this wednesday!!
190. Cheryl Tomblin | May 11, 2008 at 10:28 pm
I remember when I heard rumor of this ordinance last year from a friend of mine who is a Chicago-based Musician. Speculation of this ordinance was in conjunction with an already pending ordinance against DJ-ing in a non-licensed venue (ie. house parties) because such events are considered to be raves. I can’t believe that Chicago law-makers are trying to implement an ordinance that would stifle creative/musical expression in city known as “Home of the Blues.”
This city is the home, or at least major pit-stop, for so many musicians, small and big-time alike; musicians that can walk into a club, sit in for a set, and enjoy the company of their fellow musicians. In fact, that happened to me just the other night at Gallery Cabaret. While I was only there for a beer, the host that night approached me to ask if I could play a couple songs to fill in an open slot. If this ordinance is passed, opportunities such as this would not exist for me or other aspiring musicians in Chicago. Musicians will not only have to notify the police 7 days before any performance, but we will have to “get fingerprinted, submit to a background check,” and go through myriad of other hoopla. Would this be the end to “Open Mics” as well???!!!
This ordinance is completely asinine and I DO NOT support it. Please, for all those who benefit from being able to express themselves at venues small and large in Chicago, raise your voice and tell Mayor Dailey he would be doing his city a disservice passing this ordinance.
Cheryl (C.lynn) Tomblin
Singer/Songwriter
Chicago, IL
191. Kate623 | May 11, 2008 at 10:28 pm
This ordinance makes the foie gras ban look like the Declaration of Independence.
192. Andrew Reilly | May 11, 2008 at 10:29 pm
The intent of the ordinance is mostly commendable but the execution, at least in this form, leaves nothing defined and would turn what it should theoretically protect into nothing more than defenseless, low-paying targets. Absolutely unacceptable.
193. carrie burr | May 11, 2008 at 10:29 pm
there goes the neighborhood. you take this away from us, you take the heart and soul of our great city. you take this away from us and you will snuff out the rich & culturally diverse foundation for all that is, all that has, and all that is emerging as Chicago’s art, Chicago’s music, Chicago’s sound. . i am 110% opposed to this outrageous attempt to strip Chicago of its very essence – artistic diversity & genius has been born, raised and given wings here. diverse, genius, fledgling artists have been drawn to Chicago for over a hundred years…this has given it its life-spark, unlike any other city on earth. don’t kill us
194. Glenn | May 11, 2008 at 10:32 pm
Don’t let the city council screw up the local music scene.
The solution to every problem in Chicago ISN’T to tax it til the problem goes away……………..
195. Adam Kaltenhauser | May 11, 2008 at 10:35 pm
In the words of Frank Zappa (speaking about the absurd proposed legislation of the PMRC), “it’s like treating head lice with decapitation.”
196. swizzlesteve | May 11, 2008 at 10:35 pm
I play in a band and I book a room in the city. This is complete b#llshit. People need to rise up and make sure this doesn’t happen.
197. Daniel Pender | May 11, 2008 at 10:36 pm
This is a low move and shouldnt even be thought about. The local music and theater here is what makes this city so great. you would think that the city councel would know that.
198. venturii's | May 11, 2008 at 10:39 pm
Chicago is known for it’s diversity and cultures…in many forms. This ordinance would be another way the city is progressively trying to use powe and big organizations/ordinances to stifle this..micro/macro manage all facets of the city…squashing not only culture in the city, it will squash businesses of all forms, and push developing culture to more “culture friendly cities”, it would be another short cited decision. The city has many more important and critical issues to deal with rather than spent energy on this and other needless things like foie gras, dog breeds,etc. Spend the energy and decisions on gangs, drugs, jobs, roads, business,etc. T & H Venturi
199. Phyllis | May 11, 2008 at 10:43 pm
Don’t take opportunities to see local music away from me & more importantly don’t take it from families who probably can’t afford all the higher priced venues. How much MORE culture will we deny our cities children after so many school programs have also already been taken away.
200. Phyllis | May 11, 2008 at 10:44 pm
Don’t take this from families who probably can’t afford all the higher priced venues. How much MORE culture will we deny our cities children after so many school programs have also already been taken away.
201. Megan Sontag | May 11, 2008 at 10:45 pm
I cannot believe how crazy this is! Art is what makes Chicago amazing, anyone who is out to stifle the heart of the city should move to wisconsin…then they will know what it’s like to live in a place where if you say, “What is your favorite Andy Warhol?” they have no idea who that is…..or what you are talking about.
DON”T LET THE ART DIE!!!!!! You will turn into Wisconsin. ((shudder))
202. Timothy Eident | May 11, 2008 at 10:52 pm
I see this as pushing events out of the city, where we do not have efficient public transportation. I see this as hindering public safety in the fact that we will have more people driving to events in the suburbs and driving home under the influence. E2 was a tragedy and a large loss of life, but I see a larger loss of life due Drunk Driving from Elgin, Aurora, Joliet, and other areas into the city after an event. I would rather have people taking trains and buses around the city, than behind the wheel.
I also see this as hindering development of Chicago Culture. Are we not the “Home of the Blues”? What would this do to the blues scene, which while strong, is not strong enough to survive something like this. What about the other music scenes? What about small plays and one man shows that we have that make our city what it is? We are a city of culture and art. It is what makes us Chicago. This is damaging to who we are as a city.
I am all for safety in our city, but pushing through an ordinance such as this is dangerous in so many ways. This ordinance needs to be tightened in it’s wording, and rethought in every way.
203. Allison Fishman | May 11, 2008 at 10:53 pm
It’s those venues with 500 or less that give music lovers, artists, and the like those intimate moments that reinforce the integrity of the creative soul this city has to offer. Who would want to rob Chicago and it’s visitors the great experience of what makes “art” such a notable quality. Or the promoter’s who literally “bust their arse already” job any harder than it already is? To make a few extra bucks for the “promoter’s license” to thereby be “legit.” Come on now. How much $ does Perry Farrel’s Lollapalooza, Bluesfest, Gospel fest, Taste of Chicago, Looptopia, etc bring in EVERY year? I’m quite sure the figures are atronomical. You better believe the city of Chicago get’s a HUGE portion from the proceeds. We must get together and let them know how near and dear these clubs truly are to us. Not the time to overlook the fact that Not making a big deal out of the issue would most definitly limit the artist to a sorry list of options to participate in the things they are passionate about.
204. Chris Bryan | May 11, 2008 at 10:55 pm
As a local performing musician, who LIVES off of the money that small music venues provide, I am outraged at the unrecognized, senseless aftermath of this ordinance. Furthermore, I cannot imagine this city without places such as Schubas, the Metro, and Uncommon Ground. They are creative thinktanks and an augmentation of our rich culture. Please vote this down or I’m moving to New York!!!
205. Joanna Halinski | May 11, 2008 at 10:57 pm
Please do not allow this ordinance to pass.
Please do not change Chicago’s music and theatre scene.
For me, Chicago’s stage art pulses like the blood that runs through my veins.
Please do not infect it.
206. Pete | May 11, 2008 at 10:59 pm
That’s fine. I can see where this city is headed.
Big vanilla shows with no further outlets for artistic creativity. Just like most everything else is turning to in Chicago. 10 years from now we’ll look like Schaumburg.
207. Gina DeBartolo | May 11, 2008 at 11:00 pm
Cultural suicide. Unbelievable.
Way to go, Chicago City Council.
208. Sally Scheef | May 11, 2008 at 11:01 pm
There MIGHT have been some good intentions in the writing of this ordinance, but the ramifications have not been thought through. It is ill conceived and dangerous.
209. Sara | May 11, 2008 at 11:03 pm
I can’t put into words how ridiculous this ordinance is. We can’t let this pass!!
210. Tucker | May 11, 2008 at 11:05 pm
Isn’t it tough enough to to live in Chicago? Price gouging artists is a cheap shot at finding funds for a city that is corrupt from top on down. Find some other way to raise money. This is just not right.
211. Heather Haneman | May 11, 2008 at 11:06 pm
The arts in Chicago are too important to be allowed to be squashed by this ordinance
212. jason krasowski | May 11, 2008 at 11:08 pm
This CANNOT happen!! Doing this will kill the love a and passion so many people put into the love of music!! Please, let us be!! There is other ways the city can make money outside of killing the ability for young, often broke artists to be heard in the city!
213. matt | May 11, 2008 at 11:12 pm
this is totally outrageous and disheartening. not very surprising, considering the city was never very arts friendly. with rising prices on everything, this would not be a good thing … the rippling effect would have lasting, damaging consequences for all involved.
214. Mary E. O'Kiersey | May 11, 2008 at 11:13 pm
Chicago has a vital arts community which will be smothered by this proposed ordinance.
215. Meggie Sasaki | May 11, 2008 at 11:25 pm
This city thrives on the small venues, theater companies and bands. To try to snuff them out is insane. Not only would it hurt the tourist business (a lot of people come just for these events) it would leave more people than I care to imagine out of jobs. This is outrageous and makes me wonder how anyone could think a city known for these things could survive without them.
216. steve vazquez | May 11, 2008 at 11:34 pm
Wow! Truly unbelievable. Our once proud cultrually rich city is truly about to lose it’s soul. Please council members, snap out of it. The Devil truly has your blood running green. Think of al the work yet to be done with Bronzeville’s cultural rejuvenation and Pilsen’s Renaissance. It has all been spearheaded by grass roots cultural efforts. Independent groups that LOVE this City. Is that really something you want to hand over to Disney and Live Nation?!!!! Think of all the WORLD when they mention Chicago… “Ah yes, a wonderful cultural mecca that is the Jewel of America’s heart. The Soul of that Nation” or when they come here in the future, do you want them to say, ” What the Hell did they do to Chicago!”. Is that really what you want when the Olympics get here. I implore you, SNAP OUT OF IT!!!! And just ask yourself, “What would Muddy do?”
Well, if YOU pass this, it would basically be like spitting on his grave. For this is really a damaging way to cover for lack of execution and enforcement of safety rules. Don’t let the tragedy of that one horrendous night become a cultural tragedy for years to come.
217. Bob Mirage | May 11, 2008 at 11:43 pm
The “promoters’ ordinance” will scare away another industry and current tax revenue from Chicago.
218. Angie | May 11, 2008 at 11:45 pm
I’ve lived in this city since 1996 and been a musician whose played in this town ever since I’ve lived here. The longer I stay in Chicago, the worse it gets. If something like this passes, just more of a reason to get out of this town with it’s ridiculous sales tax, out of control property taxes, smoking bans, s*itty looking condos everywhere and the worse gas prices in the country! Chicago used to have something to offer….. music is about the last thing that it has and that is about to go!
219. Chuck Showalter | May 11, 2008 at 11:49 pm
These performance spaces provide avenues and opportunities for our beloved artists to hone their chops. Their value to our city’s culture transcends words. This will not stand. I’ll be at city hall/Daley Plaza to express this. Ritchie needs yet another slap on the hand.
220. Omkar | May 11, 2008 at 11:49 pm
The ordinance would be extremely harmful to Chicago. The City Council is amazingly clueless and short-sighted.
221. Nicole Salow | May 11, 2008 at 11:55 pm
I can’t believe they could even consider this. Talk about killing the local music scene! come on! this has to be stopped.
222. John Moran | May 11, 2008 at 11:56 pm
As an artist who was born and raised in Chicago, it is abhorrent to know that the city that has helped to inspire me is trying to keep me from reaching out to the public and build my audience. This has to stop. If this was 1980, would you do this to Steppenwolf?
223. Mat | May 11, 2008 at 11:59 pm
BS, plain and simple. Yet another example of how ass backwards and corrupt this city is.
224. Brian K | May 12, 2008 at 12:01 am
I live in Milwaukee. For the last several years I thought Chicago was the greatest city in the U.S. for music and the performing arts. Then you banned smoking (no, I am not referring to the state ban, I mean the Chicago ban that was passed first but was to go into effect later), now this. My band just played two shows in Chicago. We made about $100 for both shows combined. If this ordinance passes, we absolutely will not be back, but we’ll be rockin’ the ‘burbs. I myself have not attended a show in Chicago since the smoking ban and if this law passes, I will not bother to come back to your once great city for any entertainment or any other reason. I already refuse to go to my own state capitol of Madson in protest of the Communists that run that town. So, Politbureau, put that in your pipe and smoke it.
225. Brian Hinkle | May 12, 2008 at 12:05 am
This ordinance is unnecessary, stifling and flatly unacceptable.
226. Suzie Ostrowski | May 12, 2008 at 12:11 am
garbage, all of it. stop sucking the life out of the city.
227. Patrick R. | May 12, 2008 at 12:16 am
we as a community cannot let this happen.
228. Shana Porter | May 12, 2008 at 12:17 am
I am deeply offended by this ordinance. It’s absolutely wrong. I can’t tell you how many plays and shows that I have seen over the past 3 years that weren’t mainstream productions, but made me think. Entertained me. Made me happy that I searched them out and found them. This culture is what makes Chicago such an unique town – allowing artists of every stripe to be able to perform their art for a varied audience. Strop trying to meddle in art. Not everyone wants to see big-time show productions. Don’t mess with our CULTURE.
229. Harrison Rose | May 12, 2008 at 12:17 am
This is a travesty that will only hurt the people of Chicago and small businesses trying to support and promote the arts.
230. Diane Schacter | May 12, 2008 at 12:21 am
As regular supporter of Chicago theatre, I find this ordiance ridiculous.
231. Katie Kopecky | May 12, 2008 at 12:21 am
This is a terrible idea! This will destroy what makes Chicago so great. Don’t do this.
232. DEMETRI ALEXANDER | May 12, 2008 at 12:22 am
Please do not pass this srifliing ordinance, thank you.
233. Carol | May 12, 2008 at 12:23 am
Why would the city council even consider this ordinance? I’m opposed since it would deny many unique cultural events that make Chicago so special.
234. Pam Wolff | May 12, 2008 at 12:23 am
What is the need for this ordinance? Aren’t there liability laws already in place to “protect” people? Enforce existing laws, and don’t saddle people with more costs. In this economy, this law makes little sense, and that’s being generous. As a singer myself, who normally performs in private/semi-private venues, I wonder how this will affect me. I’m not going to pay money to sing at friends’ parties.
235. John Whitehead | May 12, 2008 at 12:23 am
I live in Ontario(Canada) and hope this doesn’t go through. I hope to start going t ochicago once or twice a year to see large and small art and music events and if something like this passes I am a little more inclined to go somewhere liike San Francisco to get the art/culture that I want to see and hear.
VEnues under 500 peope are usually where the people who care and love the art/music/comedy etc the most. These smaller smaller places are where the people who put the show or event on really care about what they are doing. They are usually using there own money and alot of there time to do a great smaller event.
I hope to come to chicago in novenmber and hope I don’t have to change my mind and go somewhere like San Francisco instead.
236. DEMETRI ALEXANDER | May 12, 2008 at 12:24 am
Please do not pass this stifling ordinance, thank you.
237. Arnie Ziffel | May 12, 2008 at 12:32 am
I can’t fathom a Chicago without the smaller venues. Watching a growing talent in a coffee house IS Chicago. It is what makes us an international city. I am having trouble understanding their reason for this menagerie of regulations. Welcome to the People’s Republic of Illinois! Good Luck.
238. Charles Valentino | May 12, 2008 at 12:33 am
Absolutely ridiculous. Another nail in the coffin of ma and pa bars and taverns. This time the city is going after the bars with bands.
239. Brian K | May 12, 2008 at 12:36 am
Sorry, had to comment again after reading DeRpgatis’ interviews with Schulter and Stein. Those two are lying liars and complete idiots. These two keep talking about “promoting an event to 1000 people when the venue only holds 500″ and such gibberish. And yet newspaper ads are exempt. If you put an ad in the Tribune, for example, how many people are you theoretically “promoting” to? The entire circulation of some 200,000 or more? Is there any venue that can hold the entire Tribune circulation? If your myspace page has 1000 friends and you put out a bulletin, do you really think that all 1000 are going to show up just because you told them about your show? You are lucky if you get 5% . Under this law, any band or any bandmember that promotes his own show in any way would be a “Promoter” and subject to the licensing and fingerprintng requirements. All of the “established” venues as well as the less established venues rely upon the bands self promotion. As I stated earlier, nobody in a band makes any money in your town or any other town for that matter unless they are completely crass commercialists or happen to be extremely lucky. So why do you want to take our fingerprints, charge us a fee, and make us get insurance? Does Daley really have to create more jobs for his pals? Again, Communism at work. Create a disastrous situation (E2) by not enforcing existing laws and use that as an excuse to force still more absolutely unneccessary government intrusion into our lives. Liberty and justice are dead in Chicago.
240. Richard | May 12, 2008 at 12:39 am
Ok, some main reasons this is a REAL bad idea for Chicago. First off there are countless numbers of business owners of original live music venue across the city that need to consistenly rely upon the revenue live concerts generate from admission charges, food and drink in order to keep their business up and running. AND to be able to consistenly keep their staff employed and PAID to keep doing their jobs, like providing security, cooking, bartending and etc, etc. I believe this would just back fire and cause a regional backlash for countless thousands who flock to live music clubs every week of every month to support the clubs, the music groups and the people who help the clubs and bands stay successful in their endeavors. Not to mention the massive amount of sales tax revenue the city would lose from the loss of you know, sales of alcoholic beverages that in most cases is what keeps many of these clubs major staples in the culture of being a modern-day Chicagoan. Pass this ordinance and many of us will be calling you back to say, “Hate to say i told you so, this was a bad idea!”
241. daniel feldstein | May 12, 2008 at 12:40 am
The city of Chicago would do itself a great disservice by passing this ordinance. It could bleed this city dry of real art and real culture.
in fact it would make chicago look like the communist city of america were the artists and musicians are kept from expressing themselves.
is chicago going to be govern by reason or madness? this ordinance would be a sign that this city is run by heartless politicians waving their power around like guns.
242. Kyla Doetch | May 12, 2008 at 12:43 am
This is outrageous. If the aim of this ordinance is to crush any semblance of local music scene, then it should be VERY successful. And frankly, I’m not sure what else this could accomplish. Totally and completely unacceptable.
243. You Tube Video | May 12, 2008 at 12:54 am
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244. You Tube Video | May 12, 2008 at 12:55 am
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245. Paul | May 12, 2008 at 1:03 am
As a former resident of Chicago, and a lifelong patron of the arts, I find this ordinance ridiculous! We need more art not less!
246. Andrew Yale | May 12, 2008 at 1:12 am
Let’s hope that if this preposterous ordinance passes, the city takes its enforcement as seriously as the foie gras ban.
247. Michael Koulis | May 12, 2008 at 1:15 am
Some of these venues are legendary in Chicago and they define the city, doing GREAT things like promoting a unique and creative music scene full of hard working people that base their lives off of playing at some of these venuese. This could ruin the Chicago music scene!!!!! EVERYONE SHOULD BE AGAINST THIS!!!!!
248. Robert Linzmeier | May 12, 2008 at 1:21 am
Aldermen,
This ordinance is too broadly written. You cannot possibly intend to eliminate the business and tax revenue which will happen as a result of your inartrful drafting. Please refer this back to your lawyers to prevent these unintended conssequences which accomplish no valid regulatory objectives concerning these Chicago institutions.
R.W. Linzmeier
Attorney at Law
249. Andrew Ruble | May 12, 2008 at 1:25 am
This is silly, unnecessary, and almost bully-like in my opinion.
In the case of a lot of traveling bands and theater company’s, this ordinance would effectively take the next to nothing that most of them survive on to begin with and then ask them for seconds.
250. Chien Yuan | May 12, 2008 at 1:28 am
This is ridiculous!
251. Jennifer Knox | May 12, 2008 at 1:29 am
NO! Art is one of the things that makes our city so unique, beautiful, vibrant, and valuable. Where would artists BE without a HOME to grow and experiment???
252. Lindy | May 12, 2008 at 1:31 am
Are you crazy… what are you thinking if you let this ordinance pass!! As a Chicagoan you would be throwing up your noses at a whole segment of people out there who can barely and are thankful for venues that are still affordable! The Arts should be available and affordable for all and not just the Privilege!
253. Sue Fink | May 12, 2008 at 1:34 am
Hello… I left a longer post on Jim DeRogatis’s blog site, after reading the proposed ordinance there…
But basically — if I’m understanding the ordinance correctly — venues like Schubas, Martyrs, etc. would be excluded because the ordinance defines “event” as “…(1) any activity requiring a special event liquor license under Chapter 4-60 of this code;..” — i.e., if a venue already has a liquor licence for its shows, those don’t count as events; and coffee-houses that don’t serve liquor for shows also would be excluded… (this is at the bottom of p. 1 of the ordinance, btw)
Also, in the “Exclusions” section (pp. 2-3), there are a *whole lot* of exclusions: Newspaper/broadcast media promotions are excluded; the performer promoting him/herself is excluded; and it looks like the club owners are also excluded from being considered promoters.
HOWEVER, there’s other vague language defining a promoter that possibly contradicts the exclusions; although, if regular shows don’t count as “events,” it’s probably a moot point.
I’m NOT a lawyer (I’m a singer/songwriter), but it appears the language needs to be tightened up, but it doesn’t look like our normal venues — nor our promoters or ourselves — are being targeted. I would think that with all our comments, and e-mails/calls to our aldermen, etc., this will be cleared up.
My concern: why did they try to “slip” this through without feedback from the arts community first? There’s just so much unnecessary regulation already…
If we’re not vigilant, creativity will be legislated into dust… the arts/artists will leave Chicago, and the remaining residents will lead smoke-free, arts-free zombie “lives” — but at least they will be SAFE –well, except for all the guns ‘n stuff…
254. Gloria Montgomery | May 12, 2008 at 1:54 am
This is RIDICULOUS! Do NOT PASS this anti-artist, anti-culture ordinance. Who came up with this stupidity, the EXCLUDED LARGE VENUE people???
255. Jackson Lanners | May 12, 2008 at 1:54 am
All things are connected and when you cut out one form of revenue in a city through red tape you cut out all the revenue that supports it. Chicago isn’t about canned entertainment. It’s entertainment culture comes from small venues and local acts. Be real people. Many ants build the ant hill….not just major acts.
256. Daniel Sugrue | May 12, 2008 at 1:58 am
Chicago is the city we love because of its culture, and denying musicians and artists a chance to enrich and continue that tradition is a tragedy.
257. Robert Harnish | May 12, 2008 at 2:00 am
If this ordinance passes, Chicago won’t be known as the “Second City” anymore. It’ll be known as a little “Cow-Town” again and it won’t be the stockyards that smell.
258. Mary | May 12, 2008 at 2:13 am
I’ve already e-mailed my alderman to ask that he vote against this ordinance.
259. Beata Riedlmayer | May 12, 2008 at 2:16 am
This ordinance will do incalculable harm to Chicago’s vibrant culture. No doubt the committee has some good intentions, but this is definitely not, not, not the answer!
Please don’t strangle the small venues, the small artists, the wealth of talent and wonderful contributions to Chicago and what makes it great!
Thank you.
260. Chris So | May 12, 2008 at 2:17 am
Seems to me that this is a form of free speech oppression.
261. BETSY FISHMAN | May 12, 2008 at 2:20 am
THIS WOULD BE POSSIBLY THE WORST THAT COULD HAPPEN
IN CHICAGO CULTURE HISTORY. DO NOT LET THIS HAPPEN
262. Mark E. | May 12, 2008 at 2:22 am
WHAT ARE THEY THINKING??? STOP THIS BILL NOW!!! DON’T RUIN CHICAGO…I AM AGAINST THIS ALL THE WAY!!!
263. Sean Nolte | May 12, 2008 at 2:25 am
Chicago has always been a hotbed of great,home grown
talent,be it art,theatre,music,etc.
This bill is just another way for the city to dig its claws
into and destroy it’s vast culture,history and future.
I guess the city must really be broke.
264. Sandra Sanoski | May 12, 2008 at 2:27 am
I totally oppose this ordinance!
265. Christopher S. | May 12, 2008 at 2:31 am
This is absolutely wrong. Current and future artists will suffer greatly if this bill is passed. SAVE CHICAGO’S CULTURE!
266. Kris N | May 12, 2008 at 2:34 am
I am opposed to this ordinance.
267. Donna Fintz | May 12, 2008 at 2:44 am
This ordinance will destroy the music and theater life that has made Chicago such a vibrant, creative city,. The small theaters and bands and other performers who represent themselves will be unable to perform and we all will be deprived of their talent.
In addition, I believe this ordinance violates the First Amendment of the US Constitution.
268. James Henderson | May 12, 2008 at 2:45 am
As a regular patron of small theater companies throughout the city I oppose this ordinance.
269. WILLIAM COOPER | May 12, 2008 at 2:55 am
HOW WILL MANY NEIGHBORHOOD FESTIVALES STAY IN CHICAGO? HOW WILL MANY SMALL EATERIES THAT HAVE SMALL BANDS OR PIANO BARS THAT COME IN ONCE OR TWICE A WEEK RUN? THIS ORDINANCE WILL CRIPPLE THE MUSIC AND CULTURAL LIFE IN THE CITY! ALSO AS I SEE IT, THE MANY STREET AND ND NEIGHBORHOOD FESTS, SUCH AS GREEK FEST, RODGERS PARK ART FEST, GOLD COAST ART FEST, ETC., WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO HAVE ANY MUSIC OR STREET PERFORMERS! PLEASE DO NOT STRANGLE THIS CITY BY BANISHING ALL OUR ENTERAINMENT TO THE SUBURBS!
270. Dawn Xiana Moon | May 12, 2008 at 3:25 am
As a working musician who lives in Chicago, I am appalled at this ordinance. As a singer-songwriter, I’ve played at 12 venues/festivals in Chicago, including Uncommon Ground and the Chinatown Summer Fair, and will say that it’s typical for a performer to play for tips (which range from $0 to $40 most nights) or a cover charge that will bring in $50-70 on a good night. Most jazz musicians I know earn $5-30 apiece from gigs in small venues when they play music that’s not explicitly consumer-oriented (that is, not playing jazz standards as background music, but rather being the focus of attention themselves). And this from musicians who have often trained at conservatories and earned advanced degrees in their art.
Very, very few performers would be able to afford a $500 license fee, and few small venues could afford it either. Besides destroying most of Chicago’s live music scene, this ordinance would damage support industries: manufacturers of T-shirts and promotional items, printers who make posters and flyers, etc. The ordinance is one way to kill one of the wonderful things about Chicago: its support of the arts and cultural scene.
Dawn Xiana Moon, singer-songwriter
271. Diane Gagliano | May 12, 2008 at 3:25 am
I oppose this ordinance..I go to many fests in chicago, and enjoy the music.Please do not take it away.
272. James Langkamp | May 12, 2008 at 3:35 am
Our economy is struggling right now, government needs to support business,especially promoters who are on the front lines, fighting to bring increase to the city of Chicago. Why force people to go elsewhere? Please turn this around.
273. Sean Masterson | May 12, 2008 at 3:44 am
The City of Chicago needs to invest in and support its rich
and diverse performing arts scene. This ordinance is misguided
and at odds with the support the city council should be demonstrating to the arts.
274. Mélissane Guigou | May 12, 2008 at 4:47 am
RIDICULOUS.
275. Eric Krueger | May 12, 2008 at 5:45 am
Simply put, we will no longer be able to do business in Chicago. Our money will have to be spent elsewhere. This is heartbreaking to be pushed out of the city and the culture we have fought so hard to build and protect. Please do not pass this hurtfull ordinance. Proper reinforcement of the existing laws is sufficient. Lets get those right before we impose more.
276. Brandon Penzkover | May 12, 2008 at 5:45 am
Please STOP this small-venue KILLING ordinance!!!
I think I understand some of the original intent behind this, but as it is written, it will DESTROY the arts in this great city.
277. Todd Papaleo | May 12, 2008 at 5:46 am
A thinly-veiled attempt at MORE money-grubbing and power-grabbing.
278. Ariel Bolles | May 12, 2008 at 5:57 am
This ordinance is misguided and targets the wrong people. It could potentially hurt the music scene here, and discourage bands from out of town from playing here. I don’t understand why City Council is wasting their time on this while there are so many glaring problems in Chicago that actually need immediate attention, like the fact that many public schools offer no art or music programs.
279. charlotte weeks | May 12, 2008 at 6:01 am
Please don’t let this happen! This is one of the charms of Chicago-don’t take it away!
280. Shirley Gonzales | May 12, 2008 at 6:05 am
There has to be a more reasonable way to statisfy the Council’s paranoia.
281. Mike K | May 12, 2008 at 6:09 am
Stop this nonsense you greedy bastards!
282. Sharon W | May 12, 2008 at 6:19 am
I’m wondering what business interests are behind such an ordinance…Perhaps the companies that have taken over control of nearly every fest in the city? Professional organizers that want no competition?
283. Joseph Merideth | May 12, 2008 at 6:21 am
One of the things that attracts people to our city IS the arts community…ouside of music this will most assuredly have a far reaching affect on one of the Nation’s richest arts cities.
284. J. Ballinger | May 12, 2008 at 6:21 am
Seriously? What a ridiculous thing to even consider! How a city, especially Chicago, could do something this like this is baffling.
285. Jenna Murfin | May 12, 2008 at 6:23 am
Without independent promoters putting up shows throughout Chicago at so many of the venues that make Chicago what it is, Chicago becomes nothing more than a big corporate stop on the road. Keep Chicago unique, and please support independent promoters/STOP the anti-promoter ordinance. The vast variety of shows one can see/be part of in Chicago makes Chicago vital to the art and music scenes of the world at large but without this variety, Chicago fails and seems to, in many ways, be turning a cold shoulder to those who have made it what it is….vibrant, diverse, unique and quite often, magical.
286. Anonymous | May 12, 2008 at 6:24 am
Don’t do it. This law would totally mess up all of what Chicago is known for. Every venue and bar that hosts popular, semi-popular, or bands that are rising to fame would be outraged. This law should never be passed.
287. Vianna Rosen | May 12, 2008 at 6:26 am
Don’t pass this ordinance! How can you write off Chicago’s small music and theater scene like this!?! Please don’t limit the culture of this city to “Big Name” Broadway Shows and Musicians. By passing this ordinance you’d be depriving you’re constituents of the rich and vast culture Chicago currently offers us. Don’t sell this off for a small profit, It’s too important!
288. John Reed | May 12, 2008 at 6:36 am
I don’t understand how a city would want to remove part of it’s unique character. The smaller club venues and storefront theaters give us what we search for outside of any prescribed program. They are what make me want to live in this city! An ordinance like this shouldn’t be allowed to prevent anyone from experiencing what Chicago is all about.
289. Kim Windsor | May 12, 2008 at 6:38 am
What are you thinking. For those of us who don’t have the “big” dollars to see the “big” shows, just love these little theatres. There is some quality actors, actress, bands, musicians that get their start in these venues and you are thinking of cutting them off at the knees. And if it’s the “almighty” dollar you are thinking of, then think of the revenue lost to the city at restuarants, parking, nightclubs etc that won’t be getting the “dinner and a show” crowd for they will all be headed to the suburbs. Please think twice before passing this ordinance.
290. Ben Bass | May 12, 2008 at 6:40 am
I second (or is that two hundred eighty-sixth?) everyone’s thoughts above. The proposed ordinance is ill-conceived and dangerous.
In other news, I enjoy breathing air.
291. Dave | May 12, 2008 at 6:41 am
Totally outrageous! Its not like musicians have this kind of money.
292. andie | May 12, 2008 at 6:42 am
Chicago’s goverment should strive to create opportunities for small and emerging venues to succeed, not succumb to the red tape tyranny of an unfit or unattainable a blanket liability. Before simply shutting the door on the the smaller venue, and hence their patrons, we should seek to provide an easier means to both protect Chicago citizens and businesses alike.
293. Melanie Sampson | May 12, 2008 at 6:42 am
I oppose this ordinance. It will completely squash many local, hardworking, independent organizations and companies in music and the arts that give this city its character and charm, leaving a giant hole to be further filled by boring old Corporate America.
294. StevenDeBouver | May 12, 2008 at 6:42 am
Please don’t we have better ways of getting more tax dollars.
295. B J Jones | May 12, 2008 at 6:57 am
Don’t let this ordinance pass!!! Our small music scene is a big part of what makes Chicago more than just a “fly-over” between New York and Los Angeles. We don’t need to actually try to become only a second-rate city, just in the name of a little profit, with added opportunity for increased corruption.
296. patrick | May 12, 2008 at 7:02 am
we cant do this this is ludicris
297. Chris G | May 12, 2008 at 7:03 am
Art, Music and Theatre are an intrigal part of the city that is truely alive! No small group no matter who/what has the kind of money it seems they’re proposing and then the city will be minus one more thing that’s been dissapearing from the city the past few years and I won’t have an argument for people when we’re talking about reasons to come to Chicago!
298. Laurie Helena Bouchez | May 12, 2008 at 7:03 am
I oppose this ordinance. This would take away the livelihood of many of my professional musician friends. It also would keep creative people from coming together to express themselves and create new things musically for others to enjoy.
It also would take away part of the reason people move to and visit Chicago. What are they thinking?
299. M Zahara | May 12, 2008 at 7:04 am
This is ridiculous as it will kill one of the best music scenes in the country! How about instead of raising city revenue (again), the people in charge trim some fat?
300. John Cunningham | May 12, 2008 at 7:09 am
Small music and theater venues are the lifeblood of Chicago’s arts communities, and I strongly disapprove of the city’s attempts to restrict them.
301. Jenna Wenzlaff | May 12, 2008 at 7:09 am
This is so, so ridiculous.
Anyone who lives in Chicago and loves our music here knows that every time you leave a show, you get flyers showing you about other shows. And, if you’re like me, you’d like that.
I think this is really unneeded, and the fact that I couldn’t help promote (I’m thirteen) is really disappointing and ridiculous.
302. Kelsey | May 12, 2008 at 7:18 am
music is my life. it is a way for people to connect on a way deeper level than one could possibly connect on without it. speaking from the position of a girl who’s boyfriend is in a band and also has some really close friends in local music bands, music is their creative outlet. to take the outlet from others in chicago, would be like taking it from my friends. all of the great bands we have had the opportunity to listen and view over the years had to start out somewhere, thats local music.
303. Noreen Sobczyk | May 12, 2008 at 7:18 am
This is absolutely intolerable and would be tragic to our fine cultural landscape. What are you thinking?
304. Snezana Tragic | May 12, 2008 at 7:18 am
That’s ridiculous.. I’m against it… I’ve been traveling around the world a lot and I’ve never heard for that kind of nonsense.
305. Batya Hernandez | May 12, 2008 at 7:22 am
This is unacceptable! Blue Line Studio is a small studio/salon that allows new, emerging and established artists and performers to have an audience of less than 100. We don’t even charge a full admission it’s pay what you can. We would have to charge exhorbanant prices and our base audience would be cut out. Only a few could even afford to attend. This would really wipe us out.
306. Amy Knoll | May 12, 2008 at 7:23 am
I am an avid consumer of music and performance in this city. I work not-for-profit and a $15 gig ticket is my entertainment. I love supporting local artists and businesses and witnessing some pretty impressive art at the same time.
Please do not limit my main source of culture. I love to go out and meet new people, find new acts and enjoy something amazing without corporate sponsorship. We need this to keep Chicago’s arts community strong.
There are building codes to prevent another disaster like E2. I believe in safety – trust me. But penalizing the people who are struggling to make a living doing what they love seems like a very poor approach.
Please do *not* pass this bill. It will only hurt your city.
307. bambi | May 12, 2008 at 7:23 am
I agree with the everyone above. What will happen to the people who enjoy music festivals?
This will totally affect the livelihood of many musicians. Don’t let them pass this ordinance!
308. Michelle Hackman | May 12, 2008 at 7:27 am
Stop this ordinance. Do you want Chicago to become artistically drained? Musicians LOVE Chicago because it is so welcoming a city and there are so many opportunities….this ordinance would kill those chances. STOP THIS ORDINANCE!
309. Michele | May 12, 2008 at 7:40 am
I oppose this ordinance. It will force the creative talents of many to go elsewhere. Chicago is a great city that provides amazing music and theatre. Don’t take this away from us.
310. David Wachtendonk | May 12, 2008 at 7:42 am
As someone who’s passionate about arts and entertainment, i feel this ordinance restricts creativity and options for the public and is only benefiting big business. Please support the “little guys”.
311. Ralph Pehl | May 12, 2008 at 7:46 am
Stop this ordinance! The music and culture scene in Chicago is what makes this city great. Suppressing and eliminating this by adopting unreasonable ordinances only to add funds into a city that can easily replenish by other means is a political undertaking of the most irresponsible types. Our leaders are here to represent us and maintain our source of individualism and preserve the heritage of Chicago. To the politicians and city officials – represent the people as asked of you, as elected by us. Embrace what makes this city great – and decry the politics that wants to drain the city of its uniqueness. If it’s about money, there are many other ways to obtain rather than draining the city of creativity and inspiration.
312. Eric Roach | May 12, 2008 at 7:51 am
You pass this ordinance, you kill culture in this city. You kill everything that draws people to this city in the first place. As an actor and supporter of small venues, I think this is insane. People will leave this city once you make it just like the suburbs. Think about what you are doing. This is pure greed.
313. Michelle Lambing | May 12, 2008 at 7:51 am
I moved to Chicago 6 years ago because of its cultural offerings – mainly its music scene. If this ridiculous ordinance passes, the places that I see music the most won’t be able to book shows, the bands will quit coming to Chicago, and these places will close.
Add that to be gradually priced out of the city, and there’s very little to keep me here. I really love Chicago – don’t let it go downhill!!!
314. Robert Bastin | May 12, 2008 at 7:54 am
i dont live in chicago anymore but i still have family there. and when i lived there i know i enjoyed going to all the music festivals . and the new ordinance seems like it would hurt all the new start up bands. and if there are less music festivals wont that mean less money for the city?and also what about the clubs? many people enjoy listening to live music in clubs
315. Michael Roth | May 12, 2008 at 7:56 am
As both a lover of music and a musician, I feel that this ordinance will kill the music culture of our city. Since moving here, I have found that Chicago’s music scene is one of the major benefits of living in our city. Being able to have a license to promote concerts in our city is a ridiculous ordinance that makes it difficult for promoters, musicians, and music lovers in Chicago to enjoy concerts on a regular basis. Please put a stop to this ridiculous law and let music continue to thrive in our city.
316. Sarah Rose Graber | May 12, 2008 at 7:57 am
I welcome all ignorant politicians in favor of this ordinance to come to a non-equity production or a small music venue and see the magic they’d be destroying. Chicago has a unique and active arts community that wants to keep growing. Please don’t let this happen.
317. Jim Lang | May 12, 2008 at 8:00 am
Our band members are a Dr., a research scientist and an engineer.
We travel nearly 100 miles most weekends to perform our original material in Chicago. Without the existing independent promotors, we would not be able to play.
318. Anthony Seymour | May 12, 2008 at 8:02 am
I have a friend who single handedly made his band happen through self promotion. This is an outrage and only serves to stiffle creativity in music.
319. Ken | May 12, 2008 at 8:03 am
I am totally opposed to this rediculous ordinance. It will ruin our great but smaller cultural events in the city. All the smaller theatres around the city will dry up as well as great band venues. No No No! This is totally wrong!
320. Lee Brasuell | May 12, 2008 at 8:06 am
The small storefrnots and music venues are what make Chicago, well Chicago. It would be a tradgedy if we lost some of these venues do to un-needed political interventions.
321. Adrienne | May 12, 2008 at 8:09 am
As a working non-equity actress and lifelong Chicagoan, I find it very hard to believe that Mayor Daley, a self-proclaimed champion of the arts, would allow this to pass into law. Small theatre companies all over the city are still reeling from the PPA ordinance from a few years ago, and being forced to pay new licensing fees of this kind will likely be the end of a good many more. This proposed legislation is very short-sighted, as it will not only drive under the artists not able to afford the fees, but will also drive away the audiences no longer able to afford to see the artists they used to support so avidly, once ticket prices have to be raised in keeping with the new budget line items we’ll be forced to incur. Does the City Council really want to leave this as their legacy – to create a downtown theatre district, only to kill off all the off-Loop theatres and music venues that keep this city so vibrant, and for which it is world-renowned?
322. Jennifer Drapeaux | May 12, 2008 at 8:09 am
I have attended shows at the Metro, and I can’t imagine that this would have to end! This is absolutely ridiculous- Chicago has started the careers of so many bands, and without these places, they would not be where they are today. I strongly suggest that you do not approve this ordinance, because if you do, Chicago will lose a part of its shine, for so many people (like myself) travel to this great city just to go to concerts at these places. If you approve this ordinance, not only are you losing out on great entertainment, but you are also losing out on tourist revenue.
323. Christy | May 12, 2008 at 8:10 am
What a terrible idea. The powers that be in Chicago need more real work to do, like cleaning up corruption in the city. If a promotor (loosely defined as even those who promote their own bands) agrees to submit to fingerprinting just so they can play their music in small venues, that would be truly unAmerican. The city dolts should put their efforts into weeding out illegals, drug dealers, and crime rather than harassing law-abiding musicians. Absolutely resist this gestapo-like trend, or there will be no more free Amercians left. This stupid idea must be stopped in it’s tracks!
324. Jennifer Harnish | May 12, 2008 at 8:11 am
What a tragedy this will be if you deny musicians and artist a chance to enrich and continue performing. This is one of the reasons that it draws be down to the city, as I live 50 miles away.
325. Lynn Eldredge | May 12, 2008 at 8:11 am
Dear Alderman Tunny:
I certainly hope that you vote NO on this proposal. The City is rich in neighborhood clubs and historically rich in music. This is an undue greedy proposal. Our young artists do not graduate from their long and expensive university musical educations and begin playing at the Auditorium Theatre or Symphony Center.
If this proposal is a result of the E2 bureaucracy blunder, it is unnecessary because 99% of our neighborhood clubs operate without incident.
I strongly oppose this strangling law for young and struggling musicians who need to have their talents aired.
Respectfully,
326. bil | May 12, 2008 at 8:12 am
Keep Chicago Music Scene Alive!
327. Samantha Gleisten | May 12, 2008 at 8:15 am
I moved to Chicago 10 years ago because of the fabulous theater scene, which exists because of the storefront theater culture and the artistic accessibility of our great city. This ordinance will destroy so much of the city’s creativity. And as a lover of good music, I can’t imagine a Chicago without great small venues to see wonderful musicians. Please, don’t vote for this damaging ordinance. Keep Chicago a place that welcomes and encourages artistic expression. Thank you for voting NO.
328. Carol Johnstone | May 12, 2008 at 8:16 am
I oppose this ordinance. I cannot imagine Chicago without the music and theater scene that exists here.
329. Vanessa Mendicino | May 12, 2008 at 8:17 am
Chicago is known for it’s music scene. It would be a shame to lose such a profound piece of our identity.
330. Hannah Weber | May 12, 2008 at 8:19 am
What ever happened to bunch of people deciding to get together and play music? This ordinance would cripple the spontaneity of small intimate venues all over chicago.
331. Colin Milroy | May 12, 2008 at 8:20 am
One of Chicago’s greatest assets is its booming artistic fringe community that produces fine theater, music and other arts year-round. Producing shows and operating a small, non-union theater is already difficult enough without additional overhead and questionable fees paid to a city that already has the nation’s highest sales tax. The fact that this ordinance does not hold larger venues to the same requirements demonstrates a lack of vision in how this ordinance was conceived. Chicago needs to support its artistic fringe community. This ordinance is not support; it will only hurt many artistic companies and individuals already struggling to produce. I will not support this ordinance and neither should any member of our city council or community.
332. Amanda Price | May 12, 2008 at 8:22 am
So am I signing the petition by leaving a comment? I hope so!!!
333. Calvin Gin | May 12, 2008 at 8:23 am
I strongly disagree with this propsal and do not want it passed.
334. Bruce Holmes | May 12, 2008 at 8:23 am
This ordinance sounds like a terrible idea.
335. Chris C. | May 12, 2008 at 8:24 am
This is crazy! Chicago is the springboard for SO many small theatres that barely have enough of a budget to produce the shows themselves, let alone licensing and insurance. It’s difficult enough to find work as an actor. If it’s impossible to start your own theatre here, too, then what’s the point coming here over any other city?
336. Ed Jones | May 12, 2008 at 8:25 am
I am against this proposed ordinance!
337. Umesh Bhandari | May 12, 2008 at 8:26 am
Add me to the petition, thanks
338. Mitch Bhandari | May 12, 2008 at 8:27 am
Please add my name to the petition, Thanks
339. Peter Tibble | May 12, 2008 at 8:28 am
What makes Chicago great is being threatened with this bill. Please do whats right.
340. Ryan Behling | May 12, 2008 at 8:29 am
Speaking from experience, it’s hard enough to make a living as a musician in this town. We need to nurture the creativity coming out of this city instead of stifling it. The arts play a huge role in defining a community. And big cities are the mixing bowl where new music comes alive. The diversity throughout the city and suburbs makes for a musical field rich with ideas. People from all over the midwest come to this city to try to break through. And people from all over the world come to this city to listen to music. Keep it alive.
Ryan Behling
Musician
341. Johnny Gaskill | May 12, 2008 at 8:30 am
This ordinance would put myself and a lot of people I know out of our own businesses. This scene is hard enough to earn a living in without the city taking from our already meager incomes. I urge all performers, producers, managers, talent buyers, and connected entrepreneurs of the scene to rise up and against this corporate consolidation- the beauty of diversity in Chicago is that anyone can create an event, party, concert, etc and create their own artistic platform- this law would rip the proverbial DIY soap box out from under us.
342. Mariah Hasegawa | May 12, 2008 at 8:31 am
As a musician, I want to be able to play. I also want to support other local bands and small venues. Music is one of the most important things in my life. Part of what make Chicago great is the diversity in music and venues. We need to keep venues open!!!
343. Adam Sauers | May 12, 2008 at 8:31 am
This ordinance clearly does more harm than good. Please do not make it harder for creativity to exist in our city!
344. Brendan A. Fitzpatrick | May 12, 2008 at 8:36 am
Vehemently against!
345. Patricia Austin | May 12, 2008 at 8:36 am
For a city that supposedly LOVES it’s artists this ordinance will make it virtually IMPOSSIBLE for art to even exist!!!!
Please add my name to protest this ordinance. Make ART, Not Ordinances!!!!!
346. Nathaniel Parks | May 12, 2008 at 8:38 am
I think this ordinance would cause great harm to the important and long standing tradition of independently promoted musical events in the city. While I understand the impetus behind the proposed changes, I think this will only manage to damage the city’s reputation in the eyes of outsiders and prospective residents.
347. Deirdre L | May 12, 2008 at 8:39 am
This is nuts. Its not about regulating events or stopping fraudulent activities – this is just the city digging even further into everyone’s pockets. COME ON – the 10% sales tax isn’t enough! Geesh.
348. mark benson | May 12, 2008 at 8:40 am
Let’s keep Chicago a city that others emulate, not one people avoid.
349. Raccoon City Records | May 12, 2008 at 8:40 am
We’ve worked with far too many bands in the past few years to really just sit and watch this happen. Music is the fuel that drives this city- it always has been. Chicago is the home of not only the blues… it is the center point for creation. How can people really think to do this? In all honesty- limiting music isn’t going to help this city- it’s just going to clutter the road to New York with a gaggle of musicians all with an instrument in one arm and the other hand flipping the bird to politicians and law makers who fail to realize that this is a city of diversity and are and that with that taken away we become NOTHING.
Lets be real honest… can we survive a time when art is being robbed of it’s own existance? First the spindle… now music… whats next? Will we be tearing down the Picasso from the Dailey center? Will we be banning all street musicians also? THAT IS CHICAGO- riding the CTA Trains and getting off to listen to some street performers make music- – making music which can only be defined as spreading joy… what kind of white collar conservative could kill that?
M.
350. Rick Langheld | May 12, 2008 at 8:40 am
WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE!! MONEY MONEY MONEY!!! IS THAT ALL THAT MATTERS ANYMORE? THIS ORDINANCE WOULD NOT NECESSARILLY HAVE STOPPED THE E2 PROBLEMS FROM HAPPENING. THS CITY, THIS SCENE, ITS PERFORMERS, AND ITS FANS ARE IN DANGER OF GOING EXTINCT IF THIS GOES THROUGH. DONT TAKE AWAY THIS CITY’S SOUL….FOR MONEY!! DONT $$ELL OUT OUR CULTURE!!!
351. Nicole Ellis | May 12, 2008 at 8:40 am
Please do not pass the Event Promoters Ordinance. Local artists and musicians help make this city great.
352. Scott Ferguson | May 12, 2008 at 8:41 am
Please stop this ordinance from passing. The effects of this will surely prohibit many if not all of the small cultural arts companies in our artistically thriving city from surviving. It would make doing art too political and difficult thus silencing our wide variety of artists.
353. David Cerda | May 12, 2008 at 8:42 am
This proposed ordinace would make Chicago a highly undesirable city for new and exciting creativity.
354. Marc Rubin | May 12, 2008 at 8:42 am
As a suburbanite who enjoys traveling into Schuba’s, Martyr’s and Park West, this ruling, as written, would turn the “Second City” into “Lost in America”. Why the leaders of the local entertainment industry were not directly involved in the development of the ordinance reflects the ignorant arrogance of the city council. This is NOT representation of the citizens who elected them, but appears to be either favoring some special interest, or a knee jerk reaction to some isolated situations.
The council must refuse to pass this rule, and send it back for re-evaluation. Bring in the leaders of the local entertainment community to help formulate an appropriate guideline, and all will benefit.
It is time to act responsibly, not hastily.
Thank you.
355. Mike Owens | May 12, 2008 at 8:42 am
People have too many hurdles to jump, obstacles to avoid and protocols to follow in their everyday life. Why add more to the one aspect of living in Chicago that keeps the people moving , alive, and engaged in life? If art is controlled and regulated, we run the risk of watching Chicago transform into the Mall of America, Epcot Center or any other overpriced illusion of community and culture that sucks the life and expression from the people it absorbs. We have too much of this illusion already. Chicago is defined by the people, if you restrict their voice, you will lose the people.
356. Final Stage Productions | May 12, 2008 at 8:46 am
We must bring an immediate end to the notion that we as human beings can stifle the arts. The idea that we will no longer be advocating the arts, rather, decide that only those with a certain amount of money can promote them is as unconstitutional as it is ignorant! WE CANNOT MONOPOLIZE THE ARTS!!
Can’t we see that theatres are struggling as it is and making affordable productions for the every day person is a struggle that proves that we as producers, directors, actors and technicians are true servants of the people?
If we’re the first to ask in a decent mannor… please, don’t make this our future.
Final Stage Productions
357. jon steinmeier | May 12, 2008 at 8:51 am
This is terrifying…
358. Sandi Schiller | May 12, 2008 at 8:51 am
Are you trying to support all the theaters and night clubs in the suburbs so that no one will have reason to come into the city?
359. Gary Houston | May 12, 2008 at 8:52 am
Patrick O’Connor is my alderman. I wrote him this letter:
Dear Alderman O’Connor,
As your constituent I call your attention to the ordinance titled “Events Promoters” that I understand is coming up for a vote in City Council this Wednesday. It is described here — http://savechicagoculture.org/ — and it concerns levying unreasonably high fees of different sorts on arts venues, presumably to produce more city revenues. Since “events promoter” is a vague term such an ordinance threatens the smaller arts organizations with crippling or fatal demands on their resources, to say nothing of the suspicious procedure of fingerprinting (for “national security” reasons???) those who run them.
I used to report and edit in the features section of the Sun-Times, and I saw the flowering of Chicago’s theater scene from what my boss, the late Chicago historian Herman Kogan, had in a famous essay called a cultural wasteland. It is now such a great asset to the city I am convinced it is responsible for increasing our tourism since the Eighties. This flowering does not come from the big institutions. It comes from the many small ones. They are the ones that produce the seminal, daring work that sooner or later deepens the imprint of Chicago on the world cultural map. They are the ones the drafters of this ordinance seem determined to hurt, diminish or kill off. They must be stopped, and I hope you will be a part of stopping them.
I do not know what interests back this ordinance, but please oppose it.
Sincerely,
Gary Houston
360. Gregg | May 12, 2008 at 8:52 am
People! Come in off the ledge! 324 posts of complete panic. The music scene world will not disappear, the end of the world is not here. Please read the ordinance before you you make such insane end of the world predictions. The ordinance simply treats event promoters like any other business in Chicago by requiring a license and insurance. The license is a 2-year license, not per event. Listen the ordinance is not perfect, but every other small business in Chicago has to be licensed, have insurance and pay city taxes. That is reality. If you want to be in the business of event promoting you should not be treated differently from any other small business. That is not fair. The ordinance does not apply to venues with PPA licenses, does not apply to artists or other performers, does not apply to not-for-profit entities or any of the aboves employees. The city met with members from the music venues, event promoters, nightclubs and bars, heard them out and made lots of changes to try and accommodate evreyone. In July of 2007, the city allowed 200 people to testify for 3 hours as to the problems with the ordinance and the city went back and made wholesale changes. So please do not say that this was done without input from the music community. It may not have gotten to everyone but groups like JAM Productions, the Chicago Music Commission and both marketer and promoters have had a chance to air their concerns. The fact remains that event promoting has become an emerging business in Chicago and should be treated like one. For a small promoter the cost is a $500 license for two years ($1.46 a day) Insurance for a $300K policy will run anywhere from $1 to $2 a day. I know that indies and other starting out are working on small margins but so is the startup Pizza business, flower shop, and other small business. Rule and regulations can be drafted to work ou the kinks and amendments can always be done but have a little patience and faith that even City Hall does not want to Kill the music scene. There are a lot of good people in the department of Cultural Affairs who know about this as well and worked on it as well. The intent is not to destroy anything and if it turns out to have some negative unforeseen consequences, they will be dealt with. I know my post will not sit well with those who just hate the thought of government regulating this industry but it is a fact that event promoters and venue owners work together to put on events and sometimes the venue owners is left holding the bag when an event promoter rents out the facility and has a bad event that causes problems. This ordinance recognizes the influence of the event promoter and is a start at addressing some of these issues.
361. Tracie Tomlinson | May 12, 2008 at 8:54 am
As a booking agent with three Chicago bands on its roster, this is outrageous! These bands make a living by playing live shows for their fans in the city. These venues are INCREDIBLE places to play, and taking this away stifles everyone’s creativity.
I don’t know what the HELL anyone was thinking when they proposed this and what benefit they would gain (besides monetary gain with which the government could put towards other shit that we don’t need). This is ridiculous and should be fought tooth and nail.
It benefits no one to deny people of the creativity that we’re promised in our rights and that we’re born with. Ridiculous.
362. Amy Adkins | May 12, 2008 at 8:55 am
Are they going to start charging us to breathe too? This is ridiculous!
363. Dana | May 12, 2008 at 8:55 am
Absolutely ridiculous.
Dana Stremming
364. Jessica Fogle | May 12, 2008 at 8:56 am
This is absolutely ridiculous, and deserved more press and attention than it has received so far (I only know about this because of the abundance of people who have spread the word via blogs and mailing lists). The whole music community is outraged, as far I can see among my many friend-musicians. Chicago, you will lose a wealth of indie musicians who moved here specifically for it’s budding music scene. I love that I can experiment and find my feet here, without selling my soul. Please don’t ask me to sell my soul. Please let me continue to play my little shows in divey bars, and hand-draw my little posters, without having to call the police to let them know of my piddly event (not to mention money I don’t have for licenses–I’m a true starving-artist some months, expendible cash is not something we have!). I agree w/ Michael Teach, if the original laws had been enforced at E2 (?), we wouldn’t need this new ordinance. Please don’t drive culture out of Chicago…I’ve heard rumor that we are a great tourist attraction, us artists and musicians. If you must think in dollars, think of that! Don’t make us into some corporate-monoculture. Thanks for your help and consideration, powers that be.
365. Chris Fredbeck | May 12, 2008 at 8:56 am
While we all appreciate the need to limit liability and protect the safety of the audience, this ordinance is overly broad, will interfere with creative expression, and will ultimately lead to a decrease in tax revenue. Please reconsider.
366. Paula Gilovich | May 12, 2008 at 8:58 am
Please do not pass this ordinance. Our city thrives on its small arts organizations. Our larger, more established arts organizations in this city began as small attempts. Please do not squash the ability to develop new work in our city.
367. Alicia Kenney | May 12, 2008 at 8:58 am
This ordinance is poorly conceived and overly broad. It will do far more harm than good to our city. It should not be passed.
368. Barbara Hoff | May 12, 2008 at 8:58 am
We do not need to chase the smaller venues out of the city. Do not approve this ordinance.
369. Patrick O'Shea | May 12, 2008 at 9:02 am
Please do not let the ordinance become a reality. Part of what makes Chicago such a culturally rich city is small community-based organizing in the arts.
Please do not do anything to hamper that creativity.
370. Peter Andreadis | May 12, 2008 at 9:03 am
Most up and coming musicians and music industry hopefuls use small venues exclusively to promote themselves. The fact that Chicago has many of them makes the music community vibrant and ever-changing. In my opinion, Chicago has the best local music scene anywhere in the country. Any city ordinances requiring expensive permits for performances at 500 and less capacity venues will certainly kill off a lot of the glorious rootsy activities happening now. Who ever heard of a starving artist? Please help us out and revise this ordinance. Don’t tax the little guy!
371. Courtney | May 12, 2008 at 9:04 am
This ordinance would take away many of the best aspects of Chicago. Please, do not pass it!
372. Kristen | May 12, 2008 at 9:05 am
I have never heard of anything so ridiculous in my life.
373. Douglas Johnson | May 12, 2008 at 9:07 am
I fear that the increased costs proposed by this ordinance, however incremental they may be, would prevent me from continuing with events I already have booked and hold me back from organizing events in the future. It is a unwelcome shock to the system.
374. Alea Looney | May 12, 2008 at 9:07 am
this is dumb. i go to visit chicago FOR the culture.
idiots
375. D. Tresnak | May 12, 2008 at 9:07 am
Please do not let this happen to Chicago! The results will be devastating.
376. w. woody | May 12, 2008 at 9:10 am
This is what Nazi’s and communist do. I’m appalled at such an ordinence!
377. Chris Buck | May 12, 2008 at 9:10 am
I oppose this ordinance, which discourages city residents from making an active contribution to Chicago’s vibrant theater and music scenes.
378. Mike Racanelli | May 12, 2008 at 9:12 am
The language used in this ordinance is quite ridiculous. Maybe we should try to put more laws into a effect to stop child abuse or animal abuse. That would probably be a great thing to work on, right guys? Get your priorities straight, City of Chicago. Granted there are some promoters that do some shady stuff from time to time, but we cannot use this blanket language to babysit everyone. This punishes the good with the bad and I think that’s an easy way out.
379. Sue | May 12, 2008 at 9:13 am
We are hoping the Chicago City Council will think twice before they destory all the same little venues in the city, which make coming into the city fun for those of us who cann’t afford the larger venues. Sue
380. Kathrynne Wolf | May 12, 2008 at 9:13 am
We have one poster here saying the ordinance requires a $500 license per event, and another saying that license lasts 2 years. Best to read the ordinance through for yourself before making up your mind, and then contact your local alderman or someone who can make an impact. Comments on a blog aren’t likely to change the city officials’ minds.
381. Pam Schroeder | May 12, 2008 at 9:14 am
As huge fans of the Chicago Music and arts scene, it would be a crime to strip up and coming performers of the ability to find their audience in this great city. Jam, Live Nation, and Ticketmaster make enough money charging $50-$300+/ticket with their lock on larger concert venues.
Chicago’s small venue music choices bring this city untold tourist and entertainment dollars spent in restaurants, hotels, and related entertainment….and taxes. I’m sure the city coffers would miss this source of revenue.
How will Chicago’s Blues and Jazz musicians survive this ordinance? How will Chicago’s Jazz Fest and Blues Fest look when no Chicago artists are on the bill, because they were all driven to Memphis, Austin, and New Orleans? This ordinance will drive the arts to more friendly cities because of poorly thought, back room politics designed to enrich the big players at the expense of the performers.
Keep Chicago, not Austin, the live music capital of the world, and please don’t pass this misguided ordinance.
382. Lyn Schneider | May 12, 2008 at 9:15 am
I believe this ordinance will only succeed in stifling beginning performers and killing the music scene in Chicago.
383. Linnea Carrera | May 12, 2008 at 9:15 am
This is absurd. I don’t even want to think about what will happen if this passes. I work with a nfp theatre company, I shudder to think what this would mean for our future in Chicago.
One of the great things about Chicago is all of the small shows going on all the time, music, theatre, improv, sketch. We will lose so much if this goes through.
Please don’t let it happen.
384. Suzanna Boelter | May 12, 2008 at 9:16 am
this is ridiculous. DO NOT APROVE THIS ORDINANCE!
385. Morgan Manasa | May 12, 2008 at 9:19 am
As a theatre professional (company member of Babes With Blades) I am appalled that this ordinance was even conceived in the first place. As artists in this community we struggle enough as it is to create our art and get it out to the masses. Now we’re being told that we might not be able to do it at all? This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard of, especially in such an arts conscience city as Chicago.
Simply put, please don’t pass this ordinance into law.
386. Rob Kell | May 12, 2008 at 9:19 am
The Promoter’s Ordanance will have far reaching negative effects to the cultural landscape of Chicago. It will move Chicago away from the world class city status.
387. Gabriel Pastrana | May 12, 2008 at 9:20 am
This ordinance is written to broadly and needs to be revised to target specific event promoters. The theater/music/arts scene in chicago will suffer greatly if the ordinance is passed as is. I strongly oppose it’s passing.
388. Christian Murphy | May 12, 2008 at 9:21 am
Wow! How can a city known for its daring artistic creativity and collaborative spirit have a city council that wishes to snuff out the very energy that makes it so attractive to young artists. I had no idea how quickly Chicago was becoming Branson, Missouri.
389. Corey Lyons | May 12, 2008 at 9:21 am
I’m a musician, and like many people, I essentially moved to Chicago for the music. I’ll happily pack my bags and head to a more musician-friendly city if need be.
390. Ryan Bollettino | May 12, 2008 at 9:23 am
This ordinance goes against everything small Chicago business stand for. Stop this ordinance from progressing any further…
391. Amber Mandley | May 12, 2008 at 9:23 am
Count on my support.
392. steve niketopoulos | May 12, 2008 at 9:24 am
we should have the freedom to promote without being taxed for it. stupid rule, it will hurt Chicago. Think about all of the southside venues as well..
393. Karolina | May 12, 2008 at 9:24 am
Please don’t pass this ordinance. Some of the best music can be heard in smaller venues and so many of those venues have such significant cultural impact on our city. This ordinance would be stifling to our city’s rich cultural reputation.
394. Bridgid Titley | May 12, 2008 at 9:25 am
I oppose this ordinace. It is so obviously a rash reaction to the E2 Nightclub disaster, which resulted from violations of building/fire codes, not rogue event promoters.
All this ordinance will do is discourage outside and independent promoters from doing business with music and theatre venues which ALREADY HAVE A LICENSE and have been safely managing their shows for years. Chicago business will suffer and independent artists will be completely stifled.
395. Mike Watson | May 12, 2008 at 9:25 am
Let’s hope this misguided ordinance is defeated. Thanks to those leading the effort to stop it!
396. Becky Morrissey | May 12, 2008 at 9:25 am
Please do not pass this ordinance.
397. Josh Sumner | May 12, 2008 at 9:26 am
This is ridiculous. Just another way the city is trying to gain money from the people who don’t have it.
It’s nice to know all the large Theatre’s who actually make money wont have to pay, but all the small ones who are barely afloat will. sounds fair…
Contact your alderman now!
398. greg d prouddog | May 12, 2008 at 9:26 am
Put the brakes on. Please don’t allow the inappropriate management of some venues that have had sad,even deadly consequences due to the lack of training ,mismanagement and actions of unqualified individuals effect the arts community as a whole. Slow down and come up with a plan that provides rules and regulations that a promoter is to use as guidelines for providing a safe,secure event for the public to attend.
I know of many contractors who have a biz license and insurance but fall far short of providing the public and customers a job that meets the standards of the local building codes, manufactures requirements and common sense safety procedures.
Please do not pass this as written…
399. Rory O'Donnell | May 12, 2008 at 9:26 am
Some of the things that make this city so vibrant is its live theater and music scene. This law would stifle that scene. This law would stop small independent theaters and independent music from being seen and heard in this city. That would under cut the spirit of what makes this cities theater and music community so strong.
400. Elizabeth Beyreis | May 12, 2008 at 9:27 am
Chicago’s music & theater scene is unique in Illinois, the Midwest, and possibly the entire country. A ordinance like this will destroy all that.
401. Mary Doohan | May 12, 2008 at 9:29 am
Please do not pass this insane ordinance. This is not a good thing for the city, its artistic scene, or audience members!
402. Mary Lass Stewart | May 12, 2008 at 9:30 am
As someone who moved to Chicago in 1991 partly because of the city’s vibrant underground culture and arts-friendly environment, I’m horrified to see legislation considered that would change this irrevocably. We need to foster an environment that provides forums for small, unestablished practitioners of the arts in order to ensure we achieve the unique and diverse cultural promise inherent in Chicago.
I vote, I pay property taxes, and I love this city dearly. This piece of legislation is not appropriate for Chicago or consistent with the city’s commitment to culture.
403. Christine | May 12, 2008 at 9:31 am
This is a completely misdirected way to correct a problem! Don’t pass the ordinance!
404. Jeff Martin | May 12, 2008 at 9:35 am
This ordinance stands to be devastating to Chicago’s thriving cultural scene–why would city government want to stifle events that bring so many people (and so much money) into the city?!? It’s baffling.
405. JP Hochbaum | May 12, 2008 at 9:37 am
This is what happens when people instill fear into politicians.
406. Jeremy Scheuch | May 12, 2008 at 9:37 am
This is just another example the city of Chicago in its infinite wisdom restricting things they don’t know enough about. It is entirely to vague and misdirected. To use a few antiquated phrases, they are throwing out the baby with the bath water and cutting of the nose to spite the face.
The laws to make events safe, and i don’t think anyone argues that we all agree on wanting to throw safe events, are on the books already. The laws are not being enforced. I’m sure Todd Stroger had a few cousins the city could hire to enforce the laws we already have instead of punishing everybody for the cities lack of organization and follow through.
407. Rebecca Kosick | May 12, 2008 at 9:39 am
No to this ordinance!
408. Jennifer S | May 12, 2008 at 9:40 am
This is heartbreaking. Passing this ordinance would destroy what makes this city great and the reason why so many artists like myself moved here. If this gets passed I can’t see why I would stay here and I know I’m not the only one. STRONGLY OPPOSED!!!
409. Tony Lenhart | May 12, 2008 at 9:40 am
Chicago is one of the greatest music cities in the entire world. Up and coming bands from all over the world have always been able to come here and share what they do best. It would be a crime to stifle them by letting commerce get in the way of art.
410. Sam Bakken | May 12, 2008 at 9:40 am
I think this ordinance needs further review before it is passed. At first glance it appears that it will unneccesarily stifle the performance of local music.
411. Brendan Hutt | May 12, 2008 at 9:41 am
I am deeply saddened to see the city of Chicago taking such a monumental step backwards culturally with this ordinance. The damage it will do to our city’s culture and arts is simply mind-boggling.
Please, don’t ruin the most vibrant and wonderful artistic culture in the US.
412. Bill Kenefick | May 12, 2008 at 9:41 am
Bully in the Hallway supports local music, local venues and local music promotion. The work and effort of these venues, people, bands and companies enables the proliferation of art while providing financial support to many full and part time. This ordinance puts unfair and punishing financial restrictions on people and organizations that will have a crippling effect on the life of live music and art in Chicago.
Bill Kenefick
413. Bonnie Piddington | May 12, 2008 at 9:42 am
Of all the things to be spending time and money on this is about the dumbest! Art needs to breathe not be stifled by petty bureaucrats. Spend your time fighting crime, guns, hunger, homelessness. a lousy job economy…. not trying to shut down creativity and beauty,
Wicked is fine… but so is 66 Faces of Halloween which was presented in a space holding about 20 people and starred Bill Petersen of CSI fame.
Stop trying to legislate things that line youor pockets and destroy your souls.
414. Shea | May 12, 2008 at 9:43 am
Don’t pass the ordinance
415. Jeff Tobin | May 12, 2008 at 9:44 am
This law would destroy fringe theater and music. We have a tremendous community comedy, improv, independent music, etc that would be seriously hurt by passing this ordinance.
416. Jennifer | May 12, 2008 at 9:44 am
As someone involved in the music scene and a huge supporter, this is madness. Fix it, Chicago!
Jen Evans
Bucktown
417. Atasha Sosa | May 12, 2008 at 9:45 am
As an intensely passionate music goer, I often find myself in Chicago for many shows that I just can’t see in my home state (Iowa). For this reason, this is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard. Thousands of people attend shows at places like the Metro, and it is more than likely that Chicago will lose the respect of bands that bring in money, not only from them, but from the thousands of people who go to their shows to eat, drink and listen to great music.
Do not pass this ordinance.
418. andrew | May 12, 2008 at 9:47 am
I am commenting to voice my protest to this piece of legislation. I have been fortunate enough to enjoy making music and playing at the various small clubs in Chicago for 2 years. I have met other like minded artists and together we have put on shows at venues throughout the city. we book and promote our own shows. This law would effectively end the small community we have worked so hard to build over the last two years. it would adversely effect the artists that book these shows, and the small club owners that rely on musicians to bring people out to their otherwise empty clubs. please, please vote against this ridiculous ordinanace and let us keep doing what we do.
419. Mary-Terese Cozzola | May 12, 2008 at 9:47 am
If this goes through, there will be one less reason for people to visit the city of Chicago, to spend money here, to move here. Actually, there will be thousands less reasons.
Maybe the city thinks there’s a handy revenue stream here. Maybe they don’t realize that independent artists and presenters simply don’t have the resources to work under these conditions.
Yes, events need to be as safe as possible. Yes, you may need to add a small service fee or tax to finance hiring more inspectors to enforce the laws that are already on the books. But don’t make a move that will kill the cultural life here. The city can’t afford it.
420. Lindsay Muscato | May 12, 2008 at 9:48 am
As a member of the theater scene, I’m certain that small performance groups without their own venues or 501(c)(3) designations will not be able to comply with these regulations… this will stifle the very creativity and innovation that young people flock to Chicago for.
421. Vanessa Buccella | May 12, 2008 at 9:48 am
PLEASE do not pass this ordinance.
422. Mary Taylor | May 12, 2008 at 9:48 am
I don’t understand how this can be good for the city. It just hurts the little guy – in future all promotions to be exclusively handled by corporations? I don’t think so.
423. Brett Cross | May 12, 2008 at 9:48 am
let’s support local artist, not shut them out.
424. Brandon | May 12, 2008 at 9:50 am
The fine arts are extremely important, especially in Chicago. I think there were around 10+ theatrical groups at looptopia this year. I cannot and will not go to Chicago without theatre!!!
425. Ben | May 12, 2008 at 9:50 am
Well, let’s ignore for a moment the right to free assembly … while the law itself is ridiculous, punitive, and otherwise distasteful, it doesn’t worry me only because it’s unenforceable. That said – anything we can do to keep it off the books is worthwhile.
426. John Whitehead | May 12, 2008 at 9:51 am
This is my second comment but I feel I need to say a few more things.
I enjoy the smaller plays/concerts/comedy shows etc alot more in the smaller clubs/halls/church basements etc since they feel like you are more a part of the show than in a huge environment. I live in a community of 250, 000 and have on occasion put on shows here since it is one of the only ways to do it here unless you want to put on a show in a bar even thought the target audience isn’t old enought to attend the show in a bar.
The smaller venues are where the act that eventually become stars start and if they can’t set up there own tours or play smaller venues then there won’t bee to many up and coming performers coming from chicago since they will most likely move if this goes through.
Chicago has so much history with jazz, blues etc and this all started in the small clubs and halls for affordable prices.
I, along with many other CAnadians are becoming familir with these events and if something like this passes we are more inclined to go to New York or San Francisco where things like this don’t seem to be happening. I would hope that Chicago wants as many toursts from all over the world to come and if something like this passes then I’m sure it will be reduced by alot.
I personally can’t believe how something like this was brought up to begin with, the small promoters/clubs/bars/bands etc are the people who have the most heart and volunteer so much of their free time to keep culture alive and growing. Chicago should be very proud of this and shouldn’t try to limit something that has contributed so much to their identity.
I hope this doesn’t go through since some of the main reason I would like to go to Chicago are to go to the small theatres, clubs and venues of all sorts like the metro to see some historic venues.
Culture can’t grow if it is stiffled
427. Patti Hudak | May 12, 2008 at 9:51 am
There are ordinances in place, which if they were enforced would have prevented E2. This ordinance is offensive to the Chicago music scene.
428. Elizabeth | May 12, 2008 at 9:51 am
Please do not do this. It is important that Chicago continue to keep a vibrant artistic community. In New York, talented artists cannot work in the city unless they are able to make it onto Broadway or off-Broadway stages. They must audition, learn, perfect in New York only to get sent to other states to perform. I have always been proud that Chicago artists can work constantly while keeping their day jobs, apartments, and relationships. This is only possible because of the variety of venues and artistic organizations in the city.
429. Cyndi Elliott | May 12, 2008 at 9:52 am
This is stupid.
430. Barbara Lawrence | May 12, 2008 at 9:53 am
Please do not stifle creativity in Chicago. We know, from experience, that creativity and individuality in the arts do not always, indeed seldom, go hand in hand with monetary success. You will be cutting off an important part of what makes Chicago Chicago if you pass this ordinance. If you had done this years ago, we would have no Steppenwolf, Lookingglass, or other theatres of which the city is now so proud. Thank you.
431. Karen Ide | May 12, 2008 at 9:53 am
This makes no sense coming only when Chicago is becoming known as the First City, instead of the Second, for its variety of arts and cultural events. What are you thinking? I don’t know anyone who would support this. Please do not pass this ordinance.
432. Erica L Weiss | May 12, 2008 at 9:54 am
anything that makes it harder to produce cultural events in city like Chicago is a bad thing. It’s what keeps us in Chicago instead of NYC.
433. Luke Holladay | May 12, 2008 at 9:54 am
I strongly disagree with this proposed ordinance. Aldermen, vote this down.
-Luke Holladay
434. Carolyn | May 12, 2008 at 9:56 am
As a born and raised Chicagoan who left our fair city 28 years ago, my heart is still there. How could this ordinance possibly be considered. Art in Chicago is one of the many pleasures locals and visitors have enjoyed for years. In addition to the lost culture, consider the loss of revenue the city may encounter. This shall surely be greater than the license fees the council believes the taxes will provide. I DEFINITELY OPPOSE THE ORDINANCE!
435. Lindsey Cavitt | May 12, 2008 at 9:56 am
This cannot happen. As an individual who has put on several events in the city I absolutely protest this insane action. I have never profited from my promotions activities. I have raised money for children with cancer. I am also the Managing Director of a theater company that is small, and what we do in out free time. We made no profit to pay ourselves for our last show, and only paid for the show itself. The people of this city love Art and Music. This proposed action will destroy the freedom of artists, and those who love to see them, and watch them grow.
Lindsey Cavitt
Chicago Reader
436. becky sperry | May 12, 2008 at 9:57 am
This regulation would be a great loss to the city. If it had not been for the arts in chicago I would have never been able to do the radio show (college ) for 4 years. it is these smaller venues that allowed many of the great artist we have here in chicago to hone their crafts. When I think back on the people I interview over the years and are now star i first saw them at a small club.
437. Angela Kurtz | May 12, 2008 at 9:57 am
This is outrageous. This ordinance is basically saying that only artists and performers with money are allowed to perform, and this goes directly against the basis of our country – freedom of expression.
I can understand on what foundation this bill lies – safety – but if we allow our basic rights to be stripped away in the name of security (especially when it’s not something urgent or necessary) we will be left with nothing someday.
If you’re going to support the arts, support ALL of the arts, not just that section of it that has money. The world doesn’t revolve around currency, believe it or not.
438. Anthony Tavano | May 12, 2008 at 9:58 am
As a teacher, a musician, a fan of live music, and one who still supports kids getting involved in music, this ordinance will only hurt rather than help. I’ve already watched many smaller. grass-roots venues fall (the Fireside, the Studio, and the original Bottom Lounge to name a few), and it’s a shame. These venues give kids a positive, creative outlet to both see and perform their own work. This will stifle younger talent, create a monopoly for corporate juke boxes, and further strip Chicago of some of its best musical originality – its own citizens!
439. Debra | May 12, 2008 at 9:59 am
First schools can’t afford to keep the Arts programs alive and now they would like to stifle all the affordable and enjoyable small event venues that bring our local talent to the forefront. Why must everything come down to some bureaucrats collecting our hard earned dollars into their pockets-they don’t deserve a cut of everything! Keep our music alive in the places we love best and affordable for all to showcase themselves!
440. Tim | May 12, 2008 at 10:00 am
The city council really has other areas of major concern than dealing w/such an atrocity of a legislative bill here. As a working musician, this would certainly affect my already dwindling bank account. I will be a the city council meeting for sure
441. mcm | May 12, 2008 at 10:00 am
While I am certainly a proponent of safe and responsible entertainment, the language in this ordinance is way too vague to be supported. It could, theoretically, lead to many venues who have been responsible members of the artistic community (and, by extension, of Chicago) being unable to continue their work, which renders it unacceptable in my book.
442. Mike Facchini | May 12, 2008 at 10:02 am
Some of the greatest parts about this city are our art, music, theatre, and architecture. Take away any part of the above and we are no different than most mid-sized cities in the country. We need to keep the creativity and art alive in Chicago, and keep moving forward as a progressive city! Stopping the Promoter’s ordinance is a must.
443. George C Starr | May 12, 2008 at 10:02 am
Do not dilute Chicago’s importance as an internationally recognized artistic mecca with the “Disney-fication” of it’s music scene. People the world over come here for the specificity of the art created by DIY and local artists, not for the mainstream hackery they can get everywhere else. Support art, not the corporate promoters.
444. Margaret A Rendall | May 12, 2008 at 10:02 am
Please do not pass this ordinance.
445. Randy Lee | May 12, 2008 at 10:03 am
Yet another way for the Chicago Elite to squeeze tax rev out of its’ citizens/businesses.
there is no need for this ordinance to be passed.
446. James | May 12, 2008 at 10:03 am
Save the music, fight for the cause!
447. RBK | May 12, 2008 at 10:06 am
this is so stupid…why dont the make breathing illegal also?
448. Corri Feuerstein | May 12, 2008 at 10:07 am
As an artistic director of an eleven-year old theater company that helps feed Chicago’s homeless and hungry (Will Act For Food), as a member of a 15-tear-old theater company dedicated to producing original work (The Factory Theater), as an actor, a singer with local bands, a director and producer in the city I was born in: I cannot stand to see this ordinance pass. Chicago’s rich music and theater scene is what makes us unique and second to none. It is why people move here, why natives stay here and why tourists visit. Pass this ordinance, and you kill a thriving independent arts culture that will not kowtow to the profitability of mediocrity. On the news this morning when discussing the ordinance, I noticed the phrase “in order to prevent disasters like the E2 Nightclub.” One irresponsible club owner should not dictate the level of contribution from independent promoters in this city or any city. Do not pass this ordinance.
449. Emily Moe | May 12, 2008 at 10:08 am
This is ridiculous. It far oversteps the bounds of what government should do. This isn’t about public safety. It would not only stifle creativity but would also have a devastating effect on the economy. Without the rich cultural life, people will not want to live in the city. They’ll move elsewhere, and we need them to stay.
Not everything needs to be licensed in order to be safe!
450. Ian Wilson | May 12, 2008 at 10:09 am
I’m copying here the email I sent to my alderman this morning to reassert my strong opposition to the ordinance:
Dear Alderman Waguespack,
I am writing to express how crucially important it is for you to stop the Promoter’s Ordinance coming to a vote on May 14th. I’m an independent musician in your ward and I rely on self-promotion for events that would fall under the ordinance’s restrictions for my livelihood. As summarized by Sun-Times writer Jim DeRogatis and the Chicago Music Commission, the ordinance has been pushed forward in such a way as to exclude people with an expertise and an interest in the issues. Consequently, the ordinance would do nothing to address the problem of “underground promoters” and instead, unfairly and inaccurately target performers at established and legitimate Chicago music clubs.
I refer you to the Chicago Music Commission’s statement on the Sun-Times’ website:
http://blogs.suntimes.com/derogatis/2008/05/background_reading_on_the_prom_1.html
If you have not yet read it, I urge you to educate yourself on the unintended ramifications the ordinance would have. Thank you.
451. Brad Loving | May 12, 2008 at 10:10 am
Underground performance venues are an incredible asset to Chicago’s cultural fabric. Please do not jeopardize all that they provide for the community.
452. Sean Rafferty | May 12, 2008 at 10:10 am
Please do not pass this ordinance. It will be worse than when the city shut the movie industry out. It’ll kill Chicago’s wonderful music scene.
453. jos | May 12, 2008 at 10:11 am
NO WAY!!!!
454. Joyce | May 12, 2008 at 10:11 am
I truly enjoy the small venues Chicago has to offer. Some of the best entertainment is from those that are just starting out. Keep them in Chicago.
455. Val Leventhal | May 12, 2008 at 10:12 am
To the Chicago City Council:
As a member of Chicago’ arts community (for over 35 years), I object strenuously to the proposed ordinance to restrict event licensing in Chicago.
For every actor, artist and musician who manages get their career ‘above the radar’ into a larger venue there are thousands of us out here pursuing our art in our own way and adding to the richness of Chicago’s cultural scene.
Where are new talents to emerge from if there no small, independent venues available as proving grounds? Not to mention the potential for limiting free speech, including political speech, which often occurs at smaller events.
I hope you’ll vote no on this ordinance.
456. NickO | May 12, 2008 at 10:12 am
Don’t be retarded. Don’t sacrifice priceless culture just so someone’s step brothers cousins uncle can come in and set up shop to make a few bills off of selling yuppy mainstream culture.
457. Lindsay | May 12, 2008 at 10:13 am
This is a HORRIBLE idea. I am totally against it.
Lindsay Strong
458. Gil | May 12, 2008 at 10:13 am
Are we really putting a price on the ability to share and freely express creativity? How will artists be able to share music and art with the public if they don’t have this “license”? This ordinance will severely affect Chicago’s creativity scene and should not go into affect. Some of the things that make Chicago so great are the smaller performance venues. If artists don’t have access to them b/c of licensing then these smaller performance spaces will become extinct.
DON’T DO IT!
459. Alex White | May 12, 2008 at 10:13 am
Don’t let this ordinance go through! Chicago is known throughout the world as a music mecca, and this ordinance will destroy a rich culture that attracts countless bands and tourists to this town.
It’s offensive that the city would entertain this idea, especially since the E2 incident didn’t involve live band music and wasn’t closed down earlier because of corruption.
Please do not let this ordinance pass.
460. Jenny | May 12, 2008 at 10:13 am
This city just keeps getting more and more fascist. This one more nail in the coffin of culture.
461. Bill Roe | May 12, 2008 at 10:13 am
ridiculous! block this ordinance!
462. Robbie Q. Telfer | May 12, 2008 at 10:13 am
making the choice to be an artist is one many people do at the peril of financial stability – however this choice is often what leads an artist to struggle through an early period while finding their voice.
to add a financial and bureaucratic barrier to these essential members of our city’s artistic community just might make their decision for them: don’t become an artist.
as a nonprofit community organizer (youngchicagoauthors.org) i am horrified to imagine what this will do for the students i mentor, some of whom have to scrape together bus fare in order to even access the programs we offer.
and beyond young people, this seems like another reason to force out established artists to the coasts, where they’re already running to in droves.
i don’t know of any artist who would approve such a law unless they were already independently financially secure.
463. Christopher | May 12, 2008 at 10:14 am
Please, do not stifle creativity in this town. It is the last thing this city needs.
Christopher
464. Christian Picciolini | May 12, 2008 at 10:15 am
Passing an ordinance like this will virtually destroy the diversity and importance of an independent music scene. This will again put the power in the hands of the large promoters and completely cut out independent promoters from hosting bands that would have no way of showcasing their art. PLEASE DO NOT PASS THIS ORDINANCE! If you enjoy going to shows and discovering new bands, call your alderman or city official and tell them to vote NO.
465. Rina Mukh | May 12, 2008 at 10:15 am
Horrible, Horible, Horrible. Another way for City of Chicago to make money and have no liability.Boo.
466. Ellen Kamp | May 12, 2008 at 10:16 am
Please do not destroy what makes our city great. The myriad of choices in type and location of music and theatre not only makes Chicago an unbelievably rich source of culture, but assures that everyone has the opportunity to enjoy and participate in these art forms so necessary for a rich and satisfying life. Please don’t comoditize our entertainment and artistic expression options to the unaffordable and predictable.
467. davydka | May 12, 2008 at 10:16 am
BOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
468. Jim Benbow | May 12, 2008 at 10:17 am
Chicago needs enforcement of existing laws rather than a new, broader law that will unfairly hurt the legitimate music scene. I oppose this legislation and hope the Council will pursue more targeted and effective means of stopping unsafe events.
469. Alison | May 12, 2008 at 10:17 am
I thought Chicago took pride in it’s availability of different music /culture/art scenes. the thought of putting boundries on that makes me angry. i mean here we are all winter long, practically all year long, suffering through the cold…in dire need of new creative things to do in this city, and they’re actually considering taking this away from us!? give me a break.
470. Jon Scarpelli | May 12, 2008 at 10:17 am
the conversation with the alderman on Derogatis’ blog site is very telling, that alderman has no clue what’s going on out there and no clue on what this ordinance would actually do to the music scene.
he takes it so superfulously in this totally inane “battle to weed out the bad venues”. Bad venues? how about weed about the venues that don’t pay their entertainment? What bad venues? where are all these deaths occuring? I refuse to believe that venues are responisble for any unique portion of violent crimes or “fights” or whatever….
It’s totally reactionary. It’s totally short sided. It’s fascist.
471. Jason Aschenbrenner | May 12, 2008 at 10:17 am
One of the main reason I moved to Chicago was because of the amazing music scene. Chicago is a hub for hundreds of independent/underground acts while they are touring across the country. It is one of the only place where you can see great live music nearly every night of the week due to the huge network of smaller venues. My lease is up at the end of June and I am deciding between Chicago, and moving out to Seatlle…this ordinance would make my decision VERY easy! Please reconsider what you are doing!!! I would love to stick around!
472. rjw | May 12, 2008 at 10:17 am
Please stop this ordinance! It does not prevent anything except giving Chicago its rich culture and musical heritage.
It also another way for the City Of Chicago to extract money from the people who make the city great.
Shame on you.
473. irit | May 12, 2008 at 10:18 am
this ordinance may not be a big deal for larger companies, bands, etc. but, when a small band is playing in chicago on no budget just to get their name out and play their music, even a small amount of money makes a difference and can be the factor that prevents them from including chicago as a venue. we can find other things to tax.
474. David M. Milliner | May 12, 2008 at 10:18 am
Whatever happened to “The City That Works?” For once our City of Broad Sholders should reach out and support club owners, presenters, and promoters who bring a variety of cultural entertainment programs to a growing population of diversified cultures. This is what makes Chicago Work!!!
David M. Milliner
475. Jessica Bridges | May 12, 2008 at 10:19 am
PLEASE don’t pass this ordinance! Many people move to Chicago or visit Chicago for just the kind of cultural vibrance that you get from smaller venues, locally organized events, and local talent! Many of us prefer small, intimate venues and supporting the “little guy.” In the past 2 weeks alone I’ve been to 4 shows (supporting 4 different venues and 11 music acts) that would never have happened if this ridiculous ordinance was passed! Please take the time to think about what you’re doing and what the consequences would be for the future culture of Chicago.
476. Benjamin Goodman | May 12, 2008 at 10:19 am
Chicago has a unique and exciting music scene that attracts people and acts from across the country and pumps revenue into the city. Its is one of the defining features of the city and its culture! Don’t strangle it with this ordinance!
477. Matt Hohmeier | May 12, 2008 at 10:20 am
I’ve lived in Chicago my whole life and live music has always been a Major part of Chicago’s culture. To me this ordinance is just another avenue to SHAKE DOWN Chicagoans for revenue and load the pockets of the well connected. I understand Mayor Daley has his dirty business to run but this will totally kill the vibrant and much overlooked music scene in Chicago. Chicago is one of the few cities that on any night there are many live shows to choose from. This assault on art and culture has to be stopped.
Sincerely,
Matthew D. Hohmeier
478. Tiffany | May 12, 2008 at 10:20 am
Mayor Daley is ruining this great city the best he can & at lightening speeds. I’m really getting sick of his politics we are still leaving in a free country right? I’m starting to feel like our rights are being outplayed by a money hungry Mayor, driving all that is good out of Chicago! We need to stop this !!!
479. Rachel | May 12, 2008 at 10:20 am
This would be such a shame.
480. Sue | May 12, 2008 at 10:21 am
Horrible, nother way for City of Chicago to make money and have no liability.
481. Morgan S. Lewis | May 12, 2008 at 10:21 am
What would this ordinance do other than shut down all avenues of self and small scale promotion for artists of all, whilepadding city coffers with what seems to be a tax on independent expression? What has the independent music, theatre and arts scene done to deserve such arbitrarily severe treatment? Please do not pass this ordinance, if it passes you’ll be destroying a good chunk of what makes Chicago a world class city and brings many people to visit the city in the first place.
482. JT Newman | May 12, 2008 at 10:22 am
As someone whose work is presented largely in neighborhood and storefront venues (mostly small and mid-sized theater and music venues with no fixed seating), I know that this ordinance would put a serious roadblock in place for artists who are trying to self-produce and put their work out there. Don’t pass this! Please.
483. Rick Janes | May 12, 2008 at 10:22 am
As well as severely limiting the places musicians such as myself can play, this will also be a bane on Chicago’s tourist trade as it will affect the small clubs that attract visitors from every corner of the globe.
Everything from jazz clubs to blues bars will be unable to afford to feature the kind of music that has made Chicago famous around the world. On a more pragmatic level, this law would also lower tax revenues paid to the city as clubgoers flock to the suburbs for inexpensive live music.
I urge you to vote against this ordinance.
484. krisan | May 12, 2008 at 10:22 am
thats it, i’m moving to nashville. this is RIDICULOUS !!!
485. Michael Bond | May 12, 2008 at 10:23 am
this ordinance inhibits both culture and commerce in the city, with no benefit.
486. Seth Hitsky | May 12, 2008 at 10:23 am
I plead to Mayor Daley and our aldermen to better address the needs of Chicago’s music community before passing this ordinance.
487. Ana Barella | May 12, 2008 at 10:23 am
Such an ordinance would be painfully stifling to especially to emerging artists and dull us as a city on the world stage. I find it hard to imagine a city vying for the Olympics with one hand and wounding its arts community with the other.
488. Tom Roper | May 12, 2008 at 10:24 am
This ordinance is beyond wrong. Locally, I am highly involved as a musician in a number of VERY small-venue performances and extremely active at The Old Town School. Consider this my voice against this brain-dead ordinance designed to destroy one of the great things Chicago has going for it.
489. lee berkson | May 12, 2008 at 10:24 am
please add my name to list — just another example of:
“everytime some governmental agency makes a law, it’s a joke.”
490. TJ Travelbee | May 12, 2008 at 10:24 am
Absolute garbage – these ‘elected officials’ need to be hauled off in a police vehicle. Who is championing this ordinance? The only winners in this situation appear to be folks like ClearChannel who already monopolize the space. Just one more opportunity to stamp out the little guy.
491. Katie Boyer | May 12, 2008 at 10:26 am
if this ordinance is passed it will be a sad, sad, day in chicago.
it simply can’t happen.
492. Maria Pyra | May 12, 2008 at 10:26 am
this is unfair to local independent musicians.
493. debby fries | May 12, 2008 at 10:27 am
stop sticking it to the little guys by loosely defining “promoters” don’t pass this ordinance. stop planting so many damn flowers, that’ll generate revenue Daley!
494. Mae Salas Phillips | May 12, 2008 at 10:27 am
This is aweful. It’s not as if any of us have any money to begin with. I need my somewhat affordable performance spaces. Chicago needs it’s queer variety show fix!!!
495. Willis Kluzewski | May 12, 2008 at 10:28 am
In the past anything that poor people find to help make ends meet another group of people find a way to make it illegal; futermore, this will hurt the industry and make more and stuff happen outside of the city!
496. Bryan Delano | May 12, 2008 at 10:28 am
This wrongheaded, misguided legislation will only serve to erode Chicago’s vibrant music and arts scene. Surely problems with unscrupulous or disorganized promoters can’t be out-of-control to the point that this kind of law needs to be passed. This is a very poor idea that will cause much undue suffering for, of course, the smaller-scale venues, musicians and artists.
497. E | May 12, 2008 at 10:28 am
WOW, shame on you Chicago’s City Council. The people you want to extract money from are the people who should be getting the credit for the rich culture this City provides to the locals as well as tourism. I find it deplorable that you would even think about something like this considering the U.S. Economy. Did you even give thought to the fact that if these people are not given a chance to make a decent living in a city who has the highest tax rate in the country, they won’t be buying gas and pay the stupid high taxes we are exposed to. They’ll be moving out of their City homes because they won’t be able to afford their rent or mortgages. They won’t be reaching out to people like us who go out and spend the money to keep these businesses running. Get off your high horses and come up with a solution that works so Chicago can continue it’s “The City that Works” mantra vs. “The City that sucks the shit out of the people that make it work!!!! ” What’s the matter, a 10% sales tax isn’t enough?????????????
498. Jody Weinmann | May 12, 2008 at 10:29 am
One of the greatest assets of this city is the ease with which music, art, and theater can be made and shared with the public. Taking this away would be a tragedy.
499. Evan | May 12, 2008 at 10:30 am
This is outrageous! What makes Chicago so unique is its vibrant cultural scene, taking this away will only have an impact on citizens but also a detrimental effect to Chicago Tourism, and with the economy what it is now we need the tourism dollars!
500. Adam Krakow | May 12, 2008 at 10:30 am
This is a disgrace. Limiting small venue and self-promoted performances will deal a death blow to this city’s cutural scene. Chicago has been able to previously support a thriving music scene, but this will reduce it to only corporate-supported mega-venues that eliminate the smaller bands that make up the core of the local music scene.
501. Emma Adam | May 12, 2008 at 10:30 am
As someone who frequents small live music venues on a regular basis, I would hate to see a law such as this dampen the vibrancy of the Chicago music scene.
502. Armin Tamzarian | May 12, 2008 at 10:32 am
I oppose this.
503. Michael Mullowney | May 12, 2008 at 10:32 am
Chicago is one of the last American cities not suffering from cultural homogenization. Let’s keep Chicago unique and interesting. Stop the ordinance!!
504. Nicole Ainsworth | May 12, 2008 at 10:33 am
Unbelievable!!! If you care about what makes this city so unique, such a great place to live, such an incredible city to visit, you will never pass such an ordinance!
505. Wanda | May 12, 2008 at 10:33 am
Chicago will not be the same!!
506. Megon McDonough | May 12, 2008 at 10:33 am
Lo’ many moons ago and far away, legend has it that QE1 ordered her knights to “Hang all the harpers, and burn their harps beside them” knowing that if she could destroy the music of a culture, she could destroy the culture.
Alas, a Higher Power had other plans for the Irish and for Ireland.
Come on Chicago – connect a dot.
We’re so much bigger than this. We’re so much more hip on so many levels.
This is one more area to lead the way in.
Make art Make art Make art
507. Pascal Bodin | May 12, 2008 at 10:34 am
Since there is a huge concern about everyone’s safety, and since the insurance fees and license fees will become very lucrative…
will the insurance companies and the city sponsoring these locations and events?
508. Quenten Schumacher | May 12, 2008 at 10:35 am
I am against this ordinance. Please do not pass.
509. Nicole Prichard | May 12, 2008 at 10:35 am
This “event promoter” definition could apply to practically anything fun in Chicago, and it’s ridiculous to place such crazy requirements on all types of events.
510. Edward Lee | May 12, 2008 at 10:36 am
If you care about live events in Chicago you will NOT approve this new law. Its simply mad, how dare you stifle people who want to be creative and offer something that will be different from the mainstream. Chicago is dynamic and diverse, not some plain white bread city which is want you people are trying to make it!
511. Vanessa Bucella | May 12, 2008 at 10:36 am
PLEASE City Council do NOT pass this ordinance.
Keep chicago’s music scene safe and alive.
512. Bob Rashkow | May 12, 2008 at 10:36 am
This is too much. I am TOO THROUGH. Next they’ll be implanting those little chips in our brains. I thrive on small theatre, poetry readings, certain music venues, etc. What is happening in this city??? I am also a sometime poet and performer. This is an absolute outrage. If this happens we’ll all have to move to Canada or Europe–I fear this is precisely what these Mainstream Do-Bee’s want us to do. Bring back the sixties, goddammit!!!!
513. Cathleeem Schandelmeier | May 12, 2008 at 10:36 am
As a long-time producer and performer of small theaters, I find it hard to believe that our City Council could possibly take this ordinance seriously! So much of the wonderful theater we are proud of began small. Steppenwolf, the Second City…if something like this happened years ago, then we wouldn’t have the great art produced here that we have today. BLOCK this ordinance! It will kill our vibrant music and theater scene in Chicago.
Here’s to success, happiness and the joy of creativity expressed through Freedom of Speech in our great city!
Cathleen Schandelmeier
514. Tony Duffy | May 12, 2008 at 10:37 am
I have been fortunate in my 20 years as an event promoter to call Chicago home. My humble beginnings in the small venues that took a chance on me have led to where I am today on the National and International stage. This ordinance will effectively kill any chance anyone like me will have to embark on such a creative and entrepreneural journey. The City can easily accomplish its “stated” goals by enforcing the laws on the books currently and holding licensed venues accountable for safety and security. What’s more, our obvious voice and commitment to safety, security and lawful application of our trade must be acknowledged by our fair city.
515. Drew Alexander | May 12, 2008 at 10:37 am
Although I applaud the intent of the proposed legislation, I oppose the way it’s currently drafted.
516. Judy Keller | May 12, 2008 at 10:37 am
Chicago will lose it’s charm if this is passed.
517. Nick Panczyk | May 12, 2008 at 10:38 am
As a long time supporter/fan of the chicago music and entertainment scene, especially smaller and affordable venues, I find it appalling to see the lengths local government will go to further line there pockets at the expense of the public they supposedly serve. What public uprising brought this idea about???? Is this what the people of Chicago want, or is it self serving to Chicago government? Try increasing penalties for those who violate (E2). Not punish the innocent masses.
518. Andres Quiroga | May 12, 2008 at 10:38 am
ADD ME ON THE LIST.
STOP the promoters ordinance !!
519. Joel Gaeta | May 12, 2008 at 10:38 am
This is outrageous! I don’t understand what would even be solved by this ordinance. This is where the already established promotional companies step in and save the day… or maybe this is their doing.
520. Lauren S | May 12, 2008 at 10:38 am
I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED IN CHICAGO. I HAVE LIVED IN THE CITY LIMITS FOR OVER 21 YEARS.
There is many things to reflect the beauty of our city and one of the TOP ones is our artists.
People young and old come into the city just to see new artist in smaller clubs. To express there talent and who gets all the rewards? Chicago..tThe gas people use..even now the CTA and L trains are expensive.BUT they spend that to enjoy the music or theater. Chicago has built a great history on the Artists and Theaters.
If the larger theaters are threatened by the smaller more resonable rates that people rather see, then maybe they should lower there rates too!
I really am tired of the lastest City Counsel destroying everything their previous Counsels have worked for and made Chicago what it is.
How do they expect to have young talent grow? How do they expect these young people to keep their dreams? On the streets??????
521. John Hastie | May 12, 2008 at 10:39 am
This ordinance is a SURE way to make sure that music and culture produced in Chicago never gets a chance to develop or mature. Without relatively easy access to small local venues (and folks willing and able to book those venues), creativity inside the city will die on the vine and cause Chicago to become an artistic non-entity on the regional and national landscapes. Even if enacted and then repealed within a couple of years, this ordinance would cause a ripple effect that could take decades to recover from.
522. Geoff Isaac | May 12, 2008 at 10:39 am
As someone with over 25 years of experience in Chicago and suburban theater (participant, board member, patron) I must protest this misguided blunder of an ordinance. It will merely serve to kill off the majority of small to medium music, theater and cultural productions that have put Chicago on the map as an artistic center. And it will have little or no effect on safety or quality, which is its purported reason for being. This will be a huge step backward for what has become a world-class city, turning it into a small downtown area with a few large venues, surrounded by suburbs, and a vast cultural wasteland in between.
523. Kari Cieszkiewicz | May 12, 2008 at 10:40 am
Please do not stop the fun. This is the such an absurd ordiance. Going to shows is my life.
You are killing an era.
524. Daniel James | May 12, 2008 at 10:41 am
I oppose.
525. Gerald McLean | May 12, 2008 at 10:42 am
I oppose this legislation. Please consider ways to address your safety concerns that will not do such harm to the cultural scene — and by extension, the economy — of Chicago.
526. Veronika Kotlajic | May 12, 2008 at 10:42 am
This is outrageous and has got to be stopped. This is what you call supporting the local music scene and the arts?
527. Dave Kneip | May 12, 2008 at 10:42 am
I’m in a local rock band here and Chicago and have thrown a number of events at random venues across the metropolitan area. I’ve profited very little with both my band and with event planning, doing it only for the love of the game and to support the local arts scene in our “fair city”. If this ordinance passes, it will destroy the communication between the venues and the artists, and will make the largest impact on the small, original local artists who don’t have big business support. Looks like once again… it’s all about the money. I say dump it all into the lake.
528. T Thurston | May 12, 2008 at 10:42 am
Chicago’s thriving, independent arts scene is why myself and countless others ever came to this city in the first place. If this is enacted and enforced, expect a mass exodus of current Chicago artists, actors and musicians and a dearth of new artists moving in.
Sincerely,
T Thurston
529. kayla | May 12, 2008 at 10:42 am
This is ridiculous and very sad. The music scene is part of Chicago. This can’t be passed.
530. Shannon Reilly | May 12, 2008 at 10:43 am
Chicago is known for it’s music and culture while entertaining people of all financial statuses. Please don’t turn the scene into another corporate Chicago business that can only be afforded by the upper class.
531. Bilal Dardai | May 12, 2008 at 10:43 am
Dear City Council,
You have no idea what you are talking about doing. The very least you can do is apply that incompetence to something more worthwhile than strangling the local arts community.
Sincerely yours,
Bilal Dardai
532. RENEE KUFFEL | May 12, 2008 at 10:43 am
THIS IS NONSENSE….DO NOT PASS THIS!!!!
533. James Cornolo | May 12, 2008 at 10:44 am
Stop this ordinance! The effects on the musical culture here would be beyond devastating, not to mention the economy. What’s more is that an ordinance like this is completely unnecessary. STOP IT NOW!
534. Ace Frehely | May 12, 2008 at 10:45 am
This is bullshit, we are in CHICAGO not the middle of nowhere. Come on people! Move your asses.
535. Andrea Lee | May 12, 2008 at 10:45 am
Oh come on…what of the great things of Chicago is the many musical and cultural events that take place here!
Dont do this!
536. Quinn Goodwillie | May 12, 2008 at 10:45 am
Do not pass this ordinance. You’re destroying the music community.
537. Donald Ehrenhaft | May 12, 2008 at 10:46 am
This will effectively destroy Chicago’s independent art culture, for which this city is so well known. Chicago has made its name through innovation, hard work and personal innitiative. The art scene here is dependent on those principles. This oridance will leave our cultural development up to the wealthy and the bureaucrats; removing the voice of the individual from the equation. Young artists and any others who don’t have an intimate knowledge of the law, politics or financial means will be renered impotent in the arena of personal artistic expression. Please stop this, in the interest of culture.
538. Kara Tumminello | May 12, 2008 at 10:46 am
This ordinance would be absolutely slaughtering one of the most beautiful parts of Chicago. There is an unbelievably creative generation that uses performing as a way to express itself, meet others, and eventually pave way for many careers. The most successful way to do this is by grabbing hold and doing it oneself. Arguably the very essences of what makes Chicago such an incredible city would be unfairly destroyed if this ordinance passes. Not only would a large amount of revenue disappear, but one of the most unique and wonderful cultures to exist today.
539. Bob Windy | May 12, 2008 at 10:47 am
Please stop this ordinance.
It does nothing but take away our city’s wonderful small venue music scene and extract money from people making small venues diverse bookings possible.
There are less small venues now than when I moved to the city 25 years ago.
There is already enough legislation for these clubs.
540. Virginia Thomas | May 12, 2008 at 10:47 am
Chicago and music are irrevocably linked. To pass this ordinance would kill a part of what makes Chicago the vibrant city that I call home. For shame.
541. Jeremy Morgan | May 12, 2008 at 10:48 am
I strongly oppose this ordinance.
542. Steve | May 12, 2008 at 10:49 am
While I think that requiring a license for promoters is not in and of itself a bad thing, requiring what could amount to huge fees will simply make it impossible for the entrepreneurial artistic voice to thrive, and fingerprinting is a completely unnecessary and machiavellian invasion of people’s right to privacy and the pursuit of individual expression.
Some license? Possibly. This license? No way.
543. Wil Bruchmann | May 12, 2008 at 10:49 am
It would be a terrible decision for the city coucil to pass this bill.
I OPPOSE!
544. Chad robinson | May 12, 2008 at 10:49 am
Don’t rape the small time bands and promoters. Stop this ordinance.
545. Chris Benevich | May 12, 2008 at 10:49 am
Don’t forget you can call your alderman’s office if you don’t want to post online!
546. Sierra Peoples | May 12, 2008 at 10:49 am
Don’t pass the ordinance, it will hurt the city of Chicago and all of the artist we love!
547. Thomas Bailey | May 12, 2008 at 10:50 am
If this ordinance is passed, underrepresented youth in Chicago will have no platform for the screening and discussion of their community-focused videos. Currently we have between 4 and 10 community screenings of youth work every year, attended by 50 – 100 people. If our organization is forced to comply with these new regulations, these types of events will become impossible to hold.
548. Pat Bauer | May 12, 2008 at 10:51 am
I hope the aldermen have the good sense not to pass an ordinance that will cripple the music, theatre, and dance scenes that make this city so much more wonderful than any other for both performers and those who enjoy them.
549. Barbara Wong | May 12, 2008 at 10:51 am
Please stop this ordinance – it’s unnecessary. The city should work on putting it’s energy & time into making our neighborhoods safer. They should leave the music scene alone.
550. lou amodeo | May 12, 2008 at 10:51 am
power to the people! i mean, uh, power to the event promoters!
551. Bradley Jay Foutch | May 12, 2008 at 10:51 am
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
552. Michael Caulfield | May 12, 2008 at 10:52 am
As a local musician i STRONGLY oppose this ordiance and i think it would only create a stagnant creative enviroment.
553. Bryan McCann | May 12, 2008 at 10:52 am
I think this runs even deeper than culture. The stipulation about contacting police seven days in advance is really troubling and will likely give the notoriously corrupt Chicago Police Department greater ability to profile shows, etc.
554. Katie Haley | May 12, 2008 at 10:53 am
I oppose this ordinance. Safety at events is important, but stifling the majority of small venues and promoters that are already legitimate and safe is not the way to do it. These places are a huge part of what makes Chicago unique. We’re a world-class city made up of vibrant communities – don’t let cookie-cutter venues be only ones that can survive. Doing so will take away an essential part of Chicago’s culture that make it a popular destination for visitors and provides a vital outlet for those who live here.
555. Dawn O'Keefe Williams | May 12, 2008 at 10:53 am
What is the real agenda accept to make money. The profiteers of this ordinance the way it is currently written, would stifle the “creatives” as they call us. The city is hurting itself if they pass this. For example, the city annually puts on a Chicago Expo Artists in Residence. They provide incentives for us to move into some of the roughest areas of the city to “enhance” it with our creative works and our presence – yet this ordinance would prevent us from ever working there by possibly hitting us with excessive licenses and insurance fees. So…..why would I even want to work here let alone live here?? What’s MY incentive now??
It’s time to tell the city to quit being greedy. They are not thinking about how much revenue they would be losing in liqour sales, property taxes from clubs and cab fares for people who like to frequent the numerous venues that nurture artists. Or, maybe the city would like to subsidize the artists with a guaranteed salary.
556. Patrice | May 12, 2008 at 10:54 am
I go up to Chicago all the time for shows and this is definitely ridiculous. I am completely against this.
557. Kelsie Huff | May 12, 2008 at 10:54 am
I STRONGLY OPPOSE. THANK YOU.
558. K | May 12, 2008 at 10:54 am
If the passing of this bill destroys the city’s cultural scene, I’m gone. DO NOT PASS THIS!
559. Kevin Brown | May 12, 2008 at 10:56 am
Yet another “ordinance” that out of touch, holier than thou politicians have come up with to try and solve a budget crisis. As ridiculous as it is, it isn’t surprising at all. Trying to take money from people who don’t have it. How much sense does that make?
560. Jason Copeland | May 12, 2008 at 10:56 am
this is ridiculousssssssss.
add my name to the list. i’m fightin this.
561. Peter Mavrik | May 12, 2008 at 10:56 am
Chicago’s art scene should be celebrated for it’s vibrancy and not trampled down by laws that were written to absolve the city of responsibility because of a few people’s mistakes.
Block this ordinance!
562. Pam | May 12, 2008 at 10:56 am
I oppose this ordinance
563. Jeff Parker | May 12, 2008 at 10:59 am
Let’s keep the music flowing. Stop this madness.
564. Robby Zar | May 12, 2008 at 10:59 am
As a musician and administrator for a theater company I strongly urge you to reconsider this ordinance. Chicago thrives on the creativity of small theaters and independent musicians. Much creative energy will be thwarted by this ordinance.
565. Isaac Csandl | May 12, 2008 at 10:59 am
This ordinance sounds awful.
566. Jenny Lebrecht | May 12, 2008 at 11:00 am
Do we not have enough negativity to endure on a daily basis? Why must you take away our joy?
567. John Sabal | May 12, 2008 at 11:01 am
This is disgrace. I oppose this greedy, short sighted ordinance. It will turn Chicago into a generic and bland, average arts city.
568. Dan Koretzky | May 12, 2008 at 11:01 am
This is madness. Get your hands out of my pockets.
569. Justin Kirkeberg | May 12, 2008 at 11:03 am
Yet another way to stiffel the descendent voice. One of the reasons I moved to Chicago was the small venue theatre and music environment. If this voice is stiffeled I don’t see my self living in the city long.
570. Kristal Rivers | May 12, 2008 at 11:04 am
Clearly, someone has lost their minds. Chicago is known for it’s music. Should this ordinance pass, it will limit the small quaint venues that Chicagoans frequent. I prefer the smaller venue to the large concert scene. I guess I’ll stay home more.
571. Andrea Wedge | May 12, 2008 at 11:05 am
One of the things that makes Chicago great is the diverse musical scene. It’s one thing to go to Allstate Arena to hear the Foo Fighters or Weezer. It’s even more fun to hear bands at smaller, more intimate venues like The Riv, The Metro, and The Vic. Ticket prices are more affordable at these small venues and you are able to listen to great music without the thousands of people in the crowd. Please don’t take this away from us!
572. Gary James | May 12, 2008 at 11:05 am
There was a Simpsons episode where they filmed “Radioactive Man” in Springfield? Major Quimby kept coming up with ridiculous taxes such as “wearing puffy director’s pants tax”. Yeah its kind of like that. Its such an obvious no, that we should not even have to discuss this.
573. Gary James | May 12, 2008 at 11:05 am
There was a Simpsons episode where they filmed “Radioactive Man” in Springfield. Major Quimby kept coming up with ridiculous taxes such as “wearing puffy director’s pants tax”. Yeah its kind of like that. Its such an obvious no, that we should not even have to discuss this.
574. Catherine Adam | May 12, 2008 at 11:05 am
I strongly oppose.
575. Colby Beserra | May 12, 2008 at 11:06 am
This is a terrible, terrible idea. Why on earth does our city government want to make it harder and harder for independent minded artists — the heart and soul of our city’s scene — to produce their own work? If theidea is to locate all of the audiences downtown, it simply won’t work. that’s for the tourists. I have nothing against the big shows, mind you — it’s just not for the locals.
576. Joan Forest Mage | May 12, 2008 at 11:06 am
As the head of a small, not-for-profit 501(c)3 arts organization now in our 20th year, I oppose this ordinance. We would not be able to operate and bring the music and dance art that has enriched the city for so long.
577. Melissa Elias | May 12, 2008 at 11:08 am
Please do not pass this ordinance. It would destroy so much of what is amazing about Chicago. People from all over the world come to experience our thriving and diverse local music scene. It would devastate our culture and economy. It’s a really really bad idea. Please stop this now.
578. john Leadley | May 12, 2008 at 11:08 am
Please don’t.
Thanks,
JL
579. Karen Youkhana | May 12, 2008 at 11:09 am
This is outrageous exceeding the bounds of what is reasonable or expected.
Our great Mayor of the city of Chicago prides himself in furthering the city’s name as a cultural center.
If this is passed all his hard work will have been in vain.
We need in the city places were are kids can go to take part in music and the arts.
Our young people can not afford to go out to the suburbs nor do they have transportation.
We need to keep our city alive and our children close to home!
580. Oleg Simkin | May 12, 2008 at 11:09 am
Stop this ordanance.
581. Franky Vivid | May 12, 2008 at 11:09 am
One of the things that makes Chicago stand out among the metropolitan areas of the US has always been it’s commitment to and support of, the arts. One of the the things that attracts people to Chicago are it’s arts festivals, it’s theatrical events (off loop too), it’s neighborhood festivals and it’s public art.
Chicago is a fantastic place to own and operate a small promotion business. It’s typically been much more amenable to promoters than New York, Los Angeles and many other major cities. For that reason, it has actually ATTRACTED promoters from all over the world to coordinate and promote some of the most stellar artistic musical, theater and cultural events ever…and on an international scale.
For the entirety of it’s cityhood, Chicago has implored the world at large to think of it as an international city of culture, to rebuff the “cow town” image that has plagued us in the past. And in the art, theater and music community it HAS gained that ground over the last 50 years. Why? Because of the spirit of it’s promoters and boosters and the tenacity of the work ethic that they’ve employed.
To approve this ordinance, especially in this economic climate, be detrimental to not only the culture in Chicago, but to the livelihoods of tens of thousands of Chicago residents. It would greatly affect the job market and the economy.
Think of just this example: In this economy EVERYONE is struggling. Bars and nightclubs are hard pressed to get people through the doors. So they hire independent promoters who’ve put a veritable lifetime into honing their skills of doing just that. These events are paid for directly by the bar so that the people who come through the doors might spend money. It’s an arrangement that works and stimulates the local economy. If the bars cannot do this, they are screwed as well. Not only will the promoters lose their jobs, but the bars will lose their crowds. If a bar is forced to hire a promoter whose gone through all the expenses of this ordinance, who do you think the costs will be passed on to? The crowds. If the price of a drink doubles, they’ll stop coming.
The smoking ordinance (something I’m HIGHLY in favor of, by the way) has already put a great strain on the local entertainment industry. We can figure out how to recover, but not as easily if we’re delivered this final blow of the promoters ordinance. Entire neighborhoods like Wicker Park, Lakeview, Lincoln Park, Old Town, Pilsen and the South Loop will die. There will be little there to attract home buyers to an already failing housing market.
This just doesn’t make sense. I don’t see the justification for it. It seems mean spirited and thoughtless. At best it seems irresponsible and at most malicious.
With the passing of this ordinance, the City can effectively strike one blow that will shatter the cultural fabric of Chicago. Please do NOT support this.
582. Carrie J. Sullivan | May 12, 2008 at 11:10 am
As Executive Director of the an off-loop, not-for-profit theater company (The Factory), ordinances like this leave me feeling very worried about what kind of further clamp-downs could follow. We need to make it easier, not harder, for our artists and musicians to perform.
583. Alex Kramer | May 12, 2008 at 11:10 am
Do not pass this ordinance. This would completely ruin the live music scene that makes Chicago so great.
584. Ken Barnard | May 12, 2008 at 11:11 am
Music, Comedy, Theater – Chicago is a great breeding ground for innovative ideas in all fields. This innovation hinges upon the smaller venues that compose the proud patchwork of Chicago’s artist community.
Keep Chicago innovating. Don’t approve this ordinance.
-Ken Barnard, comedian
585. Tamara Caronti | May 12, 2008 at 11:11 am
This is insane.
586. John | May 12, 2008 at 11:12 am
Please stop this ordinance.
587. Mary Anne Hagedorn | May 12, 2008 at 11:12 am
This whole thing reeks of extortion and unnecessary bureaucracy solely designed to squeeze a little more blood from the small venue stone. Chicago is one of the most vibrant, creative cities in the world, in large part because it is also a cultural petri dish that allows new creative forms in music and theater to grow. Strong-armed “laws” like this ensure that Chicago’s creative scene will become the equivalent of a strip mall. This cannot be allowed to proceed, particularly not without any input from the citizenry. Stop this.
588. Randy Moe | May 12, 2008 at 11:13 am
The proposed ordinance is overbearing and has no provision for small venues and beginning artists.
Big Brother is here.
589. Christina Alexis | May 12, 2008 at 11:13 am
So the city of Chicago seeks encroach upon the little culture this city has? Would like some share of the small profits made by small-time event promoters, would you? Taxpayers aren’t paying enough in this city? Bottom line is this: I know I’m only one person (but one of many) who feel that beyond the club, music, food/ beverage, film, arts scene here in this midwestern city- there is no culture. This is a bland, sterile city of non-progressive lawmakers who live in the past. If this ordinance passes, you will be putting many small, self-starting businesses out of business. Let me put this in the only terms this city’s government understands: that’s bad for the city’s economy- period. If this ordinances passes, I’m moving out of this silly city. Because that ordinance proves that Chicago is just a big city, still stuck in a midwestern, old-time, frame-of-mind.
590. Drew Zerman | May 12, 2008 at 11:13 am
while i would like to hear the reason for this ordinance (as i can’t believe the city council is just a pool of evil making evil decisions for evilness), from what i understand this seems to be a superfluous and bad idea. as a struggling performer myself, i know how hard it is already to get a good show going, to get people to show up and to get a place to book you. this is just one more giant freaking hoop we’re all going to have to jump through and the addition of this cost is going to break a few people and places. so if it ends up significantly altering the independent arts scene for the worse, then the ordinance is doing more harm than good. i vote no.
591. Elise Hutchinson | May 12, 2008 at 11:15 am
My weekends consist of going to venues like Metro, Schubas, and the Elbo room. Most of the big bands out there creating some of the best music came from places like these. To rid us of them would rob future generations of musicians the chance at something bigger. Besides which Chicagos local music scene is awesome. So many great bands are coming out of this town. This is nothing but a way to suck culture out. It’s sick to hear that unless you’ve got cash, you don’t have anything. I seriously think this ordinance needs more thought.
592. Angie Moreno | May 12, 2008 at 11:15 am
I do not agree with the proposed “Event Promoters” ordinance in Chicago. This will limit musicians, venues and promoters that are already struggling to make events happen in Chicago. This city is known for its diverse cultural arts and proposing this insane and regulated ordinance will only hurt the music scene in Chicago. – Angie Moreno
593. Kevin Carroll | May 12, 2008 at 11:16 am
Mr. Tunney
You know this ordinance would be detrimental to the city in an irreversible way. Chicago would lose the very aspects of its allure to transplants looking to enjoy and enhance the blossoming cultural landscape this city can currently, and hopefully permanently, boast.
594. Marc Boggio | May 12, 2008 at 11:16 am
Music, art, etc is one of the reasons why Chicago is such a great city and now they are trying to take it away? Smart thinking….
595. Joshua Gleave | May 12, 2008 at 11:17 am
This is silly, and a violation of basic human rights; to rock and roll where they please.
596. Lucy Smith | May 12, 2008 at 11:18 am
Add my name to the list. There are ways to address the concerns raised in the proposed ordinace without penalizing those who prioritize theatre and music. Open the dialogue so we can continue to be proud of our city.
597. Tom Neubauer | May 12, 2008 at 11:18 am
As an event producer and promoter for over 15 years, I guarantee this will stifle many unique and interesting events and entertainment options in Chicago. This is a very large step in the wrong direction for turing Chicago into aworld-class city.
598. Karen Youkhana | May 12, 2008 at 11:19 am
This is outrageous exceeding the bounds of what is reasonable or expected.
Our great Mayor of the city of Chicago prides himself in furthering the city’s name as a cultural center.
If this is passed all his hard work will have been in vain. We need in the city places where are kids can go to take part in music and the arts.
Our young people can not afford to go out to the suburbs nor do they have transportation. We need to keep our city alive and our children close to home! ~Karen Youkhana
599. Zev Valancy | May 12, 2008 at 11:19 am
Dear Chicago Aldermen,
Please vote against this destructive ordinance. It would risk major harm to the city’s extraordinary arts scene. Many venues that are central to the city’s cultural life are barely hanging on financially. This fee might put them over the edge into bankruptcy. I am curious as to what the rationale for this is–what good could it possibly do? I doubt, however, that any good it would do could outweigh the severe harm it risks. Please do the responsible thing and vote against this amendment.
Zev Valancy
600. Adam Vass | May 12, 2008 at 11:19 am
This ordinance could easily crush a thriving underground music scene that involves so many people in Chicago.
Continue opposition to this bill and hopefully, we can preserve the Chicago blues scene, underground indie and punk scenes, and all other small music scenes in danger that make the town a musical stronghold.
601. Jennifer McGee | May 12, 2008 at 11:19 am
This is terrible. As an Artistic Director of a small, independent theatre company, an ordinance like this could inhibit us from ever producing another show. Chicago is known for its small theatre companies. Why are you now tryng to discourage artistic expression? Please do NOT pass this ordinance!!!
602. Jeffrey McHale | May 12, 2008 at 11:20 am
Its important we keep small artists and venues alive and running. We don’t need to give people another reason to move from Chicago to LA or NYC. Keep the talent we have here.
603. Paul H Downs | May 12, 2008 at 11:21 am
The recent tax hikes, new ordinances such as this one, aldermen (such as Todd Stroger) recent actions being vilified by the mayor, lends one to believe the next population drop from Chicago will come very, very soon if it isn’t happening already. It seems to happen every 20 years with Chicago, like it or not. Look at the 1970’s and early 1980’s? Wicker Park was actually a dangerous place to be! Now it is a sprawling place of commerce and entertainment, something cities thrive on, duh! The suburbs, (where I came from) are now looking to be much more of a easier place to survive.
604. Frank Mauceri | May 12, 2008 at 11:21 am
Hey-we can’t let this happen. Please contact your alderman and let them know that you oppose the legislation and the alderman should as well.
605. david jordan | May 12, 2008 at 11:21 am
as someone who works with and knows a few actor in the city I am whole heartedly against this ordiance. this city is known for it’s great and suportive community all over the world it would be a real shame to this city if this is aloud to pass a city that kils its art is a city that is dead inside
606. brett moschel | May 12, 2008 at 11:22 am
I love Chicago and its culture. The outstanding music that is played as our small venues happens to be an important source of cultural pride. We have this beautiful thing which we should not take for granted. I am completely against this “Event Promoters” ordinance.
607. Crystal Riley | May 12, 2008 at 11:22 am
I can’t believe that something like this would even be considered! That is one of the fantastic things about Chicago, the fact that there is fantastic local theater, music, etc. It gives people who otherwise wouldn’t have the chance to see something like this the ability to ~ at a lesser cost that the big theaters charge! This can not be allowed to go through!
608. Cheri | May 12, 2008 at 11:23 am
Dear City Council,
The Arts in Chicago – all sizes at different venues, is what makes us such an interesting and cultural city. Don’t limit the arts by this ordinance. It is hard enough for the arts community to exist now given how slim the funding for arts and culture is – our small venues give rise to some of the most impressive works and voices in the arts world. Don’t put another restriction – and a price tag – on the arts, it gives too much back to our community.
609. Nicole Holmes | May 12, 2008 at 11:23 am
This can’t be allowed! As a lover of music, supporter of local events and friend of many artists and promoters old and new, I was greatly disappointed to learn of an effort that threatens the vital appeal that local entertainment provides for this city.
This ordinance will definitely discourage entertainers to perform and potentially push the revenue, tourism and business to suburban venues, and possibly eliminate some basic performance options altogether for people who live and work in the city. We won’t even speak of the detriment it would do to artists trying to make an honest living in a highly competitive world.
If anyone out there has a conscience this should not be allowed to pass.
610. adam scott | May 12, 2008 at 11:25 am
I am against this law. It will make the music scene bland. Musicians will not tour here and will leave for New york and LA to peruse their careers!!! Chicago is in danger of becoming a really culturally uninteresting city. If we loose the small, cutting edge, fresh, and underground venues, Chicago will be no different than the surrounding suburbs . . . what makes a city good is that it takes chances with the unknown . . . if this law passes then Chicago will not just be the “Second City” but the 3rd city behind Los Angeles.
I am 100% against this legislation . . . .
611. Karen Youkhana | May 12, 2008 at 11:25 am
This is outrageous exceeding the bounds of what is reasonable or expected.
Our great Mayor of the city of Chicago prides himself in furthering the city’s name as a cultural center.
If this is passed all his hard work will have been in vain. We need in the city places were are kids can go to take part in music and the arts.
Our young people can not afford to go out to the suburbs nor do they have transportation.
We need to keep our city alive and our children close to home! ~Karen Youkhana
612. Brian Costello | May 12, 2008 at 11:27 am
I strongly oppose this ordinance.
613. Erica Stone | May 12, 2008 at 11:27 am
Chicago cannot be a cultural center without all the unique small events that happen every week! This ordinance takes away the cultural spontenaity that makes Chicago a world-class city.
614. Ontolon | May 12, 2008 at 11:28 am
Yes I can claim ignorance to the exact wording in the ordinance proposed, but to respond to what is on this page, I can surmise that this proposal effectively allows the people with the proper credentials and funds to put on the shows charge more for the shows they promote so they can afford the fees. Who are these people that are pre-approved for promoting these shows (if the ordinance is passed)? This creates an economy that caters to only the richest acts can come preform. This may mean that the music scene is corporate sponsored, meaning only corporate music can preform in Chicago. This is tantamount to censorship on a scale where only the rich and therefore privileged can show in this city. The question is, how many other major cities are doing the same thing? This seems to be going with the trend that says, “The right to freedom is through your wallet.” Because if you can pay, you can get away with anything. Also read into this effect: Who benefits from this ordinance? Apparently, all of my favorite small venues will suffer because they may not be able to afford to have the shows they had in the past. No one will pay $50 plus to see a band they’ve never heard before at the Double Door! The Empty Bottle, an institution for having many out of the ordinary acts including the best the underground has to offer, will probably have to stop having shows. Park West: one of the finest listening rooms will no longer be able to host the excellent acts that have played there! The Abbey Pub: Can they afford to show my favorite bands as well as host ‘our’ art shows? This ordinance will actually deter class acts that Chicagoans crave from coming and preforming. This Ordinance will cause bands like Radiohead to boycott Chicago if they were to hear of these outrageous laws.
615. James Klock | May 12, 2008 at 11:29 am
I’m absolutely against the ordinance requiring licenses for “event promoters”, and feel strongly that it would result in a dramatic reduction in the exceptional breadth of entertainment in Chicago, whose rich traditions have influenced the arts on a truly global scale. Chicago is known worldwide as the capital of improv comedy and our own style of blues– both of these styles of artistic expression have survived and grown through the same small venues that this ordinance would target.
616. MARLENE SWOBODA | May 12, 2008 at 11:30 am
Hundreds of thousands of people for 50+ miles from Chicago rely on the art & entertainment scene of Chicago, especially the enormous diversity of choices.
Why would such a beautiful & exciting city want to hinder this experience.
What’s the purpose behind doing this????
If the real purpose is for the greater good then there ought to be a way to protect citizens without destroying the diversity of their experiences.
617. Abbie Torgeson | May 12, 2008 at 11:30 am
These great venues are barely recognized and promoted by the city as an integral part of Chicago’s culture; this is how we acknowledge them? This is what gets them into the news? Shame on you.
618. Chris Siebold | May 12, 2008 at 11:30 am
What the fuck is this world coming to?! This cannot be passed. The entire arts community will be strangled to death all because of some “new way” to generate revenue for the city. Maybe if Chicago managed it’s budget AT ALL! this wouldn’t be up for consideration in the first place. It’s all just political greed and if there ever was a time to take to the streets, it’s now. What does some fat-assed, old, hateful state legislator know about culture? What about up-and-coming teen rockers, actors, etc.. I refuse to accept “Wicked” or “Jersey Boys” as high art.
619. Sharon Lewis | May 12, 2008 at 11:31 am
For God’s sake, as if it isn’t hard enough or the competition outrageous enough already for Blues musicians, we need this? The government is bleeding us dry on every level. For the City of Chicago to come up with this hair-brained scheme is so utterly, Chicago at it’s worst! Let’s stop’em cold!
Sharon “Texas Fire” Lewis
620. Todd Klebenow | May 12, 2008 at 11:31 am
I strongly oppose this ordinance.
621. Jeb Bishop | May 12, 2008 at 11:32 am
This is a terrible idea. The entire musical community that I am part of exists here only because of the opportunities for performance in places that would be wiped out by this law. If it becomes impossible to work here, a lot of musicians are going to leave.
And I can’t believe I’m only hearing about this now. The lack of public input and transparency is disgusting. I wonder how the people behind this think it is going to be beneficial to Chicago.
622. Shelley Howard | May 12, 2008 at 11:32 am
I stronger urge all aldermen to stop any action that would do anything to affect the growth of Chicago Culture. We need more art, and less laws/
623. Daniel | May 12, 2008 at 11:32 am
Terrible idea, this would have such a negative effect on Chicago culture.
624. Michael Haeflinger | May 12, 2008 at 11:32 am
No no no no no. No!
625. Esmeralda Leon | May 12, 2008 at 11:36 am
I find this outrageous. This just seems like another way to ruin it for bands who are just trying to make a name for themselves in the Chicago music scene. I know so many bands that if it wasn’t for all those smaller shows at the venues with 10 people at them, they wouldn’t be where they are today. Playing and setting up your own shows is how you pay your dues. If this ordinance goes through, Chicago officials will have lost the little respect I had for them. This is terrible.
626. Olya | May 12, 2008 at 11:36 am
It will be a sad day for this city if such law is passed, especially in today’s society where mainstream media is filled with ‘Britney Spears’ and alike.
To make it difficult and costly for indipendent artistic groups to perform is to kill the cultural spirit this city is known and famous for.
Shame on those individuals who are trying to capitalize on people whose only goal is to share their talents and passion with the rest of us and making our lives brighter.
627. Peter Kremidas | May 12, 2008 at 11:36 am
This is absurd. It will turn Chicago into a rich Man’s Indianapolis.
628. Peter Black | May 12, 2008 at 11:37 am
i have a career because of the determined young promoters in Chicago abo 20 years ago. perhaps things have changed, but surely a new cadre of motivated, talented young people are carrying the torch. i’d hate to see their progress stunted by greed, and red tape. this from a multi platnum award winning writer/producer, who would have nothing were it not for Chicagos’ support. dont tamper with what works.
629. Jamie Link | May 12, 2008 at 11:37 am
This is ridiculous!! Just another way for the city to try and make money. I know a lot of Bands, Dj’s, and promoters that would never be able to afford such high business costs. If this makes it to law then they are up the creek!! Please help them!!
630. Jason Adasiewicz | May 12, 2008 at 11:38 am
This is very frightening! Aldermen, Please vote NO on this ordinance. Chicago’s music scene is one of the most influential communities in the world. Please support us.
631. Daniel Morgan | May 12, 2008 at 11:38 am
I have been attending concerts at small venues for the past 24 years and would be extremely upset if I could no longer do that due to some bureaucratic BS. I oppose this.
632. Ephraim martin | May 12, 2008 at 11:38 am
For more than 27 years thru the Chicago Music Awards and other means we have been trying to keep the music and culture in the forefront of entertainment in this great city. We discovered that the smaller clubs and special events play a vitial role in attracting tourists from the midwest and other parts of the country, and from overseas, for the wealth of live music available only in this city.
Clubs like: kingston Mines, Metro, Wild hare, Buddy Guy’s, Double Doors, Velvet Lounge, Checker Board and Cubby Bears, to name a few, have brought in millions of dollars yearly to enhance our local economy.
The city must seek ways and means to assist event promoters to keep them going, rather than to make it more difficult!
We are calling on the City Council to refrain from passing this new law, as it is not in the best interest of the city or the event promoters.
Sincerely,
Ephraim
633. Mike Adamson | May 12, 2008 at 11:38 am
Live music in small venues is one of the things Chicago was built on. Where did Muddy Waters and Buddy Guy start? In small venues. What about Wilco, Smashing Pumpkins, Kanye West and even Chicago? Small venues. Chicago is known for its music. Every great band starts small — don’t make it impossible for Chicago artists to reach the national scale.This would do serious damage to tourism and the economy.
634. Joyce Mangelsdorf | May 12, 2008 at 11:39 am
Wrong on so many levels! This is all about greed.
635. Katie Speth | May 12, 2008 at 11:40 am
One of the benefits of raising children, especially teenagers, in the city is bounty of cultural events available to everyone. Why would the City Council take that away from us? We don’t want to raise our children in a dull, lifeless environment devoid of culture. Neither do we want others making the choice of what is and is not going to be available because permits go to the highest bidder.
636. joey swanson | May 12, 2008 at 11:41 am
This ordinance needs to be stopped!
637. jim mccann | May 12, 2008 at 11:42 am
i oppose this ordinance!!!
638. nikhil trivedi | May 12, 2008 at 11:42 am
as a musician myself who organized my own shows, this ordinance would make it enormously difficult for me to share my creativity and expression with others. there are a lot of small-scale cultural performances that happen in the city every that provide spaces for emerging artists to showcase their talent, and many that cater to artists of a particular ethnic community (voices of resistance hosted by sapac, any yawp! event, maahaul.org house concerts, to start). it would be big dent to communities of color in chicago to no longer have events like these!
639. Thomas J | May 12, 2008 at 11:43 am
The way this thing is worded leaves it far too open. Please don’t let Chicago become the town that smaller independant bands avoid. I oppose this ordinance!
640. Tim McCormick | May 12, 2008 at 11:43 am
Please bring some common sense and forethought to the discussion. I’ve heard from many promoters that this ordinance will effectively kill much of what they’re so passionate about. Please think this one through and listen to promoters and the like on how badly this will affect them.
641. Natalie Conlon | May 12, 2008 at 11:43 am
That is a horrible idea.
642. Sean Monahan | May 12, 2008 at 11:43 am
This type of bureaucracy is guaranteed to stifle the vibrant theater & music scene that differentiates Chicago from NY & LA. If this should become an ordinance, there should be no exemptions for larger venues, as those are the ones that would most require oversight. Don’t ruin Chicago.
643. Richard Watters | May 12, 2008 at 11:44 am
This is ludicrous! Politics as usual in Chicago…it is becoming the city of too many ordinances! It seems the city government is trying to generate revenue without thinking things out regarding the impact these laws will have on their citizens and the city’s culture in general. I hope it gets defeated.
644. Sam Fels | May 12, 2008 at 11:44 am
This is simply ridiculous. All the great little spaces to see live music, or comedy, or theater are what make Chicago the best place to live, and this will destroy it. For the love of God don’t do this.
645. Stacy Chesney | May 12, 2008 at 11:45 am
This is cruel and unnecessary. It’s only another ploy from our wonderful city to squeeze every last penny out of it’s citizens in any way possible. Stop trying to squash art and realize that art is what makes this city so great.
646. Keith Monzingo | May 12, 2008 at 11:45 am
Please add me to the list of Chicago resident who DO NOT WANT to see the bill passed. This will certainly cause great harm to the smaller venues, which in turn will cripple to independant art community, in all it’s performance facets.
Keith Monzingo,
Chicago resident
647. krystle burmylo | May 12, 2008 at 11:46 am
this is obviously all about money. they just want to find a way to get money from house shows, and if they can’t, then shut them down. bullshit.
648. Stefan Platzer | May 12, 2008 at 11:46 am
I brag about Chicago around the world for it’s thriving music and performing arts scene. This is what makes Chicago stand out as a city, this is what visitors love about the city. Passing this ordinance is like shooting yourself in the foot.
649. Graham Hoppe | May 12, 2008 at 11:46 am
This is an outrageous idea, if this passes the city will be committing cultural suicide. The city council should realize that the arts and culture bring people into this town from all over the country, and this will close that door.
650. Eric | May 12, 2008 at 11:46 am
Of course, another way to attack artists. We are always the first target. Please add me to the petition.
651. Matt | May 12, 2008 at 11:48 am
This is ridiculous!!!! Not only will this hinder numerous talented individuals from all over the globe within music, it will hinder theatrical arts as well. An ordinance of this nature kills a unique and healthy subculture, that should be exploited rather than demoted.
652. Sean | May 12, 2008 at 11:48 am
Why make it harder for the performers who still have day jobs and are doing it out of love and passion?
Make a lot of people happy today and stop the ordinance!
653. Mike Lynskey | May 12, 2008 at 11:48 am
Don’t let this pass.
654. Kendra Stevens | May 12, 2008 at 11:48 am
I very strongly oppose this ordinance!!!!
655. Boris Kenton | May 12, 2008 at 11:49 am
This ordinance needs to be stopped. And Uncommon Ground needs to get a performing license & pay the musicians that play shows there–not just pass a tip jar.
656. Craig Miller | May 12, 2008 at 11:49 am
NOT COOL.
657. Lynn Zimmers | May 12, 2008 at 11:49 am
How cAn A city with such A beAutiful, diverse culture wAnt to stifle it? Don’t they know thAt people do these things for the Artistic vAlue And not for the $? Are they going to mAke hAving A plAy be illegAl, just like smuggling drugs? Ridicilous.
658. catalina damian | May 12, 2008 at 11:50 am
this stupid ordinance will destroy such a beautifully creative culture. it CANNOT happen.
please vote NO and let creative expression continue.
659. Emily Hinman | May 12, 2008 at 11:50 am
Don’t take away what makes Chicago the only interesting/beautiful thing around the Illinois/Indiana/Michigan area.
660. Bobby B | May 12, 2008 at 11:51 am
As a writer who also performs live hybrid theater events at small venues all over the city this has to be stopped. It will destory a huge part of the culture of the city I love. Do not pass this law.
661. Scott | May 12, 2008 at 11:51 am
Add my name to this list!
662. Noah Durham | May 12, 2008 at 11:51 am
This would be extremely detrimental to Chicago’s thriving theatre scene. Chicago has hundreds of small theatre companies which help to make the city hub for culture. This would be a huge mistake for the city.
Noah Durham
Trap Door Theatre
http://www.trapdoortheatre.com
663. Kristy Mangel | May 12, 2008 at 11:51 am
please add my name to the petition. i will also be contacting my alderman.
664. Christopher Thieme | May 12, 2008 at 11:52 am
Finally! The city council is finally tackling the problem most dear to the heart of Chicago. There just hasn’t been enough available real estate for opening new Starbucks! Kudos!
665. shreyasshah | May 12, 2008 at 11:52 am
This is bad policy, plain and simple. It will do NOTHING to enhance public safety in the city’s venues and nightlife establishments, and it may have the opposite effect.
After attending a hearing on the ordinance last year, I realized that the ordinance’s proponents suffer from a fundamental misunderstanding regarding the relationship of venues and outside event promoters.
When an event promoter promotes a night for a venue, the venue does not put the event promoter in charge of providing security, adhering to the fire code capacity, or in control of the entrance. These responsibilities should and ALWAYS do rest with the venue.
Event promoters exist to provide creative direction and marketing services for the venue, not security services.
Creating a policy where the event promoters can be held liable for safety violations will encourage venues to neglect their primary responsibility: to provide security and maintain public safety for their patrons in their establishments.
My company, though not an event promoter, produces 2 – 4 events every month with various venues across the city. We have NEVER been in control of how many people get in or how many security personnel are on site at any of the venues with which we have worked.
And here’s a dirty little secret that I will divulge: almost all nightclubs in this city regularly break fire code capacity on the weekends. That is the decision that the venues make and that they are in control of, NOT THE EVENT PROMOTERS. The city should be going after the venues for these violations of public safety regulations, not the event promoters. Vigorous enforcement of existing laws is the solution, not over-regulating small businesses, and that is what the city should be focusing on.
And what’s additionally troubling is that it seems to favor large venues and large event promoters while placing financial and regulatory burdens on small venues and promoters. This ordinance will stifle competition in the event and nightlife industries and drive small companies and young entrepreneurs out of business.
666. Jill | May 12, 2008 at 11:52 am
I oppose this ordinance. I agree that safety at public events is important, but requiring funds and a finger print is not the best way to ensure it.
I would also be extremely disappointed to see Chicago’s burgeoning and vibrant arts community stifled by our own City Council. Our leaders should be working to protect our unique arts and culture community – not destroy it.
667. Steve Sposato | May 12, 2008 at 11:52 am
Please vote against this ordinance.
668. Amy | May 12, 2008 at 11:53 am
signing the petition.
dont kill indie music!
669. Joe Principe | May 12, 2008 at 11:53 am
I play in the band Rise Against. Without smaller venues and the ability for us to book our own shows in VFW halls we wouldn’t have been a band longer then a year. We started this band when we were very young which means we wouldn’t have been able to pay for insurance and permits, etc……I know bands like Fallout Boy, Alkaline Trio, Smashing Pumpkins, Naked Raygun all started like us. Imagine growing up in a city that doesn’t allow our youth to have their own scene. Please reconsider this ordinance.
670. Leida | May 12, 2008 at 11:54 am
Theatre is what makes the City of Chicago beautiful and exciting. Take away theatre for the general population that you’ll be left with an empty cultural hole.
Stop the ordinance!
671. Japes Palles | May 12, 2008 at 11:54 am
Please don’t threaten small businesses. Allow artists to perform uninhibited from unfair regulations!
672. Kyle Kramer | May 12, 2008 at 11:55 am
Cheeky bastards.
673. Jon Hardman | May 12, 2008 at 11:55 am
If the concern is for safety, work with the promoters and venue owners!
Misguided and over-reaching ordinances like this serve no purpose, but can and will damage the fabric of the Chicago music scene.
674. LaLa Lozano | May 12, 2008 at 11:55 am
As a fan of the Chicago Music and Arts Scene, please don’t pass this ordinance. I enjoy Chicago’s small venues.
675. MARK B. | May 12, 2008 at 11:56 am
PLEASE, NO TO THIS ORDINANCE
676. Matt ROAN | May 12, 2008 at 11:56 am
If this ordinance is passed, Chicago’s music/club/nightlife culture is finished. Stop the ordinance and allow Chicago to be the amazing city it is.
677. Maurice J Vaughn | May 12, 2008 at 11:56 am
I strongly oppose this ordinance. It puts an unnecessary new burden on the ’small to mid-sized venue’ promoters. As a performer, I can see this new law hurting my co-workers and venue personnel with a negative cultural end-result. We should be encouraging and cultivating the live music/performance venues this city is known for. I strongly urge a ‘no’ vote on this for our cultural good. And thanks to my E-friends for sounding the alarm.
678. Aaron | May 12, 2008 at 11:57 am
This is ludicrous. Count me in the petition.
679. Tony R | May 12, 2008 at 11:57 am
I am against this ordinance.
680. garin | May 12, 2008 at 11:57 am
Please stop the ordinance!
681. Jesse Raub | May 12, 2008 at 11:58 am
This is the sort of nonsense that will throttle the life of modern culture in Chicago. The ordinance is designed to stifle art, and nothing more.
682. Ben Willis | May 12, 2008 at 11:59 am
As a professional musician who has lived and benefited from Chicago’s vibrant independent music scene the past nine years I am disgusted by the gall the mayor and our elected aldermen have shown by proposing this nonsensical ordinance. I would simply remind them of Chicago’s musical history. Buddy Guy, Muddy Waters, Louis Armstrong, Benny Goodman, Chicago, the AACM, and countless other jazz, blues, house, rock, and gospel acts would have never caught any local traction on their way to being legends in their fields with this legislative stupidity. I suggest the mayor and his comrades in the assembly tackle some real challenges to the city like police brutality, violence in our schools, the CTA, and some of the worst air quality in the nation in some parts of the south side. Leave art to the artists and don’t interfere on behalf of the “moneyed interests”.
683. manda | May 12, 2008 at 11:59 am
no! why take away the underground scene chicago is known for? when someone says “chicago culture,” this underground scene is what i think of. it is what everyone i know thinks of. the city of chicago is NOTHING without its culture. the IDEA to pass this law is COMPLETELY absurd!!!
684. Gillian Humiston | May 12, 2008 at 11:59 am
Please add my name to protest! I want my reps to vote NO on this!
685. ashley | May 12, 2008 at 11:59 am
this is so disturbing. i cant imagine growing up in a city without such a varied and wonderful underground music scene. please add my name to the list in opposition to this ordinance.
686. Anna Ables | May 12, 2008 at 11:59 am
As a fan of the Chicago Music and Arts Scene, please don’t pass this ordinance. I enjoy Chicago’s small venues. THIS IS A HORRIBLE IDEA!
687. Brendan McGowan | May 12, 2008 at 12:00 pm
Unacceptable. I have lived in Chicago for 23 years, born and raised, and I am never shocked when the residents are taxed and tourists get the benefits. This could stifle the precious tourism the city has focused on for more than half my lifetime, and thats what surprised me. This needs to be stopped.
688. Carmen Pope | May 12, 2008 at 12:00 pm
Stop this ordinance…
Chicago’s nightlife and small venues depend on promoters to find
clients….with them Chicago Culture would be ruined beyond repair…There are so many more important issues; such as safety and the enviroment ,that alderman and state representitives should be concentrationg their time on….this ordinace is just riduculous!!!
689. Ellen Miles | May 12, 2008 at 12:01 pm
I thoroughly enjoy the wide variety of music and theater in Chicago – why take it away. Why take away something that makes so many so happy. It just doesn’t make sense.
690. Nora Novak | May 12, 2008 at 12:01 pm
Horrible idea. Count me in on the petition as well!
691. Stephanie | May 12, 2008 at 12:01 pm
Are we free to enjoy ourselves anymore? I feel like Big Brother is watching us. First no smoking, now no music? What is this city coming to?
Pass the word! Our city is rich in culture and history don’t let that go down the tubes…
692. Patti Carver | May 12, 2008 at 12:03 pm
This proposed ordinance seems to be so “un-Chicago” …. or does it? Which Chicago do we want to represent ourselves as –the pro-artist, rich-in-culture Chicago …. or the corrupt, anything-for-a-buck Chicago? So we locals understand what this is all about, but, please, let’s not advertise our dark side to the whole world!
693. Andrew Cole | May 12, 2008 at 12:03 pm
I’ve lived in and around Chicago all of my life. Among the reasons that I’ve not relocated is Chicago’s vibrant music and theatre life. The variety, diversity, and accessibility of such interesting and important expressions of art are unique to Chicago.
Ladies and Gentlemen of the City Council, please look around downtown. Instead of Marshall Fields, Sears, Montgomery Wards, Goldblatt’s, First National Bank of Chicago, you can now see Macy’s, Bloomingdale’s, Citibank, Bank of America, and Chase. Where has our identity gone? Now, if all we have left of our artistic choices are big productions and “Broadway in Chicago”, then we have become, truly, a second city.
While I no longer live in The City, my better half and I commute often for sporting and cultural events. We enjoy theatre on Belmont Ave and Halstead Street as much as tne refurbished Oriental, Cadallic and La Salle Bank Theatres. We spend our money on parking, food, theathre tickets, and often stay for additionl nightlife, or come early for shopping. Without such reason to commute to Chicago, we could as easily spend our money in Aurora, Arlington Heights, Crystal Lake, Elgin or Naperville, all of which have entertainment venues and frankly are easier to navigate…AND less expensive!
I truly hope that you will come to the realization that promotion of the arts is good business.
Andrew Cole
725 Highland Grove Dr
Buffalo Grove, IL. 60089
694. Nick Trentacost | May 12, 2008 at 12:04 pm
This is unbelievable. The diy music scene in Chicago is what keeps me going to shows. Preventing this community from continuing is a huge hit to artistic expression. This proposed law sucks.
695. Sheila McDonald | May 12, 2008 at 12:04 pm
Please reconsider this ordinance. While I agree we must keep the patrons safe, this ordinance as it is written will eliminate many necessary events. Small not-for-profit organizations rely on benefits and other events that artists and venue owners kindly donate their time and space for. This ordinance cripples that opportunity to raise funds for organizations that promote literacy, assistance for those in need, and countless other good causes.
Please do not pass this ordinance as it is written.
696. Rachel Damon | May 12, 2008 at 12:04 pm
My entire livelihood, and that of almost all of my colleagues would be completely destroyed by this law.
I have built my creative life, (in dance, choreography, and dance performance production), in Chicago because of it’s rich opportunities. It is possible to be a working performance artist here.
That would no longer be the case if this law went into effect. Many dance productions have a budget of $2000- $5000.
If ALL or MOST of that budget were to be swallowed by this inane attempt at oligarchical control, the infrastructure of independent dance in Chicago will collapse.
Do us proud, Aldermen, and say NO to the slow constriction of our freedoms.
697. Peter Sebastian | May 12, 2008 at 12:04 pm
It appears that Chicago City Council is trying to prevent another E2 disaster. E2 was a horrible tragedy that was brought about by irresponsible managers and promoters. However, this legislation will put undue burden on small responsible promoters driving them and their talents away from the city; the legislation will also likely have the adverse affect of pushing irresponsible managers further underground, away from the public eye, putting their patrons at further danger.
Tearing down an entire segment of Chicago’s Arts community to root out a few bad apples is lazy on the part of the City Council. Lets keep Chicago the great arts city that it is and NOT pass this legislation.
698. Ingrid Oscarsson | May 12, 2008 at 12:04 pm
This ordinance would really limit the exposure to the public of indie and other musicians at the beginning of their careers. These musicians would have difficulty getting their art to an audience, so the people of Chicago would miss out on some the best music and culture this city has to offer. This would definitely be a loss to all.
699. Matt Reed | May 12, 2008 at 12:05 pm
As a musician and performer myself, I cannot believe that the City Council would even think of considering this ordinance. We pay the highest sales tax in the country, and have constant abuse and money mismanagement by our elected officials. Can’t they get their spending together? I’m sure they will argue that the ordinance is about “safety”, but that’s typical of politicians trying to extract more money to throw around. . Why punish the artistic community which is one of the main reasons this town is second to none. Eventually this ordinance will sink Chicago’s standing as a center of music, theater and art.
700. Elisabeth Blair | May 12, 2008 at 12:05 pm
Please join the Facebook group, Save Chicago Culture:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=14776278366
Please come to City Hall Wednesday at 10, 2nd floor. 121 N. LaSalle.
701. Rian Murphy | May 12, 2008 at 12:05 pm
Speaking for everyone here at the record label, I wholly oppose this ordinance. It is extortion, and is furthemore an attempt to bleed money from a stone that is much more capable of giving pleasure than it does money. And yet, artists continue to come to Chicago. Don’t stop them by essentially shutting down the clubs!
702. Tim Stephans | May 12, 2008 at 12:06 pm
I oppose this ordinance in its current form.
703. Audrey Pecott | May 12, 2008 at 12:06 pm
This is outrageous! Let them find other ways to finance bribery and corrupt politics . . .
Consider the lively culture, subculture, underground, etc. that will be squashed and render Chicago a moron on the stage of arts in this country should this ordinance pass. It’s another HUGE MIDDLE FINGER to the artists who make Chicago a place worth living and visiting.
704. drew brown | May 12, 2008 at 12:06 pm
this proposal is offensive and ridiculous.
705. Sandra Smith-Doghmi | May 12, 2008 at 12:06 pm
City officials should remember you are never so tall as when you reach down to help someone else up. Turn this project inside out.
706. Desiree' Stevens | May 12, 2008 at 12:06 pm
This ordinance is supposedly being passed in response to the club accidents that did not even happen in this city. Chicago has a proven track record of putting on shows and doing them well. As for the “homeowners” who live near our favorite clubs and complain about the noise: you should have thought about that before you moved in. As a fellow musician and music promoter it’s disgusting to think that for ridiculous reasons, this city’s musicians and touring bands alike, will not get the unforgettable response to their shows as they deserve. I can deal with, and I sort of agree with the no smoking in bars/clubs deal, but I cannot and will not deal with no music unless you have a permit bull.
707. Ben A. | May 12, 2008 at 12:08 pm
Signing the petition.
Chicago,
There are already not enough places to go to see unique independent music anymore. Creativity has been stifled enough. Please don’t enact laws that beat up the little guy for political points on safety. Otherwise, our city will be artistically poorer for it.
708. Megan Hincks | May 12, 2008 at 12:08 pm
BOO!!!!!
709. yulanda hill | May 12, 2008 at 12:08 pm
As a fan of the theater and music, i also have a child in the business this would be very bad. PLEASE NO ORDINANCE
710. Jenni Knight | May 12, 2008 at 12:08 pm
I strongly oppose this ordinance!!! Too many people depend on this industry as their main source of income.
711. Anthony aka Ol School | May 12, 2008 at 12:09 pm
Why, Why, Why! This is just crazy! The city of chicago is just wrong on this one, whats next! Is the city of chicago going too start charging us to walk on the sidewalks!
712. James T | May 12, 2008 at 12:09 pm
I oppose this ordinance.
713. Richard | May 12, 2008 at 12:09 pm
This is part of a neo-fascist movement in politics around the country, too bad it’s popped up as a festering boil in our backyard where, as artists, we work and play.
Forget that it’s hard enough to get people to come to an original show of any kind, much less eek out a buck or two. This ordinance is nonsense and, somewhere, has to violate the law because it is discriminatory in nature. After all, shouldn’t the larger venues also be similarly, and exponentially, taxed by King Daley? We have a corrupt local government that doesn’t have a passion for the arts but, rather, a passion for dollars. This is simply a way of driving smaller shows and productions out of the City in order to thin the competition and turn Chicago into a homogenous void of culture as dictated by big business.
And think of the implications outside of what it is currently being applied to: What if you have a party at your own home that has a band? Would that not qualify or, at least, be loosely interpreted as something that would be subject to this ordinance? How about a wedding? The possibilities are endless here.
If this passes we’ll see a lot more than the closing of small music venues and the evaporation of local shows; we’ll see the city pervert this ordinance for further financial gain which will, in turn, drive a lot of diverse businesses away from the city. As if sky high property taxes and the upcoming sales tax increase weren’t enough!
I’m only getting started and I’ll be blogging about this myself on my band’s site http://www.legendarliars.com
I’ll make sure to spread the word and direct people here and anywhere else they can raise their voices in protest.
714. Laura Sturm | May 12, 2008 at 12:10 pm
not only will this punish independent musicians and people who work at and enjoy these venues, but you will take away one of the greatest things about this city – the opportunity to see live music inexpensively in small venues. new york city would never do something this stupid. chew on that, you aldermen who are always complaining that chicago doesn’t have the good rep that NYC does. and help explain to daley why there’ll be less to do for tourists if he manages to land his beloved olympics. is he aware of this? i hope someone is harassing him to do something about it. seems whatever daley wants …
715. Mark Florence | May 12, 2008 at 12:10 pm
This ordinance will only hurt the artists that the city should be supporting instead. There are enough obstacles standing in front of local artists as it is and adding something like this will only hurt the local music community more.
716. Erik Kaiko | May 12, 2008 at 12:10 pm
i’m glad this news is spreading…even if it passes wednesday, i can’t imagine it sticking around for long. but yeah, let’s be preventative
717. Ehsan Ghoreishi | May 12, 2008 at 12:11 pm
Once again, Chicago city council members have proven how far their views stand from those of Chicagoans, and of Chicago’s culture; they are about to prove to Chicagoans how disconnected they are from real problems of this city and instead get involved with filthy money making making machine that aims at larger profits and nothing else. SHAME ON YOU CITY COUNCIL
718. Brian K | May 12, 2008 at 12:12 pm
Again, I must comment. This ordinance will oulaw any “All-ages” events since the members of the bands will be under the age of 21, and thus unable to obtain a license, and of course they will be “promoting” their own show.” Schulter speaks of a time when the drinking age was below 21 in Illinois in his interview with De Rogatis. When was that? Not for at least 25 years, if ever. Half-truths and white lies from the government to justify this outrageous law. Nothing new in that respect, I suppose.
719. Max Stewart | May 12, 2008 at 12:12 pm
This would be a serious stain on Chicago’s great cultural scene if it passed. We can’t let non-performers think that this would not affect them greatly.
720. Ernesto Perez | May 12, 2008 at 12:12 pm
I disagree with the ordinance. I understand the reason for wanting something like this, but this isn’t the answer. There has to be a better way of preventing incidents like the E2 tragedy…such as doing randon checks on clubs to make sure their security is good enough and that there is enough safety for patrons. Billing someone to put together an event doesn’t prevent things like the E2 situation from happening again. it just helps pay for it afterwards.
721. nick arciero | May 12, 2008 at 12:13 pm
this is insane. another way for the city to police and ruin culture and nightlife in chicago.. and we the tax payers are going to get hit up again in taxes when the city realizes that they need to make up for the lost revenue of these venues that will shut down.
722. Mark Crowley | May 12, 2008 at 12:13 pm
As a musician, I think that this law will completely change the way bookers, bands, and clubs have to do business, thus quashing much of Chicago’s great culture/music.
Also, I must say I am appalled that there are only 705 comments on this blog!? COME ON PEOPLE…THIS MUST BE HEARD BY THE CITY RESIDENTS! I just found out about this today, and most people I know thought this had been defeated! Please pass this on to others you know!?
Mark
http://www.landoflincolnrocks.com
723. Actor | May 12, 2008 at 12:13 pm
This is ridiculous. Please don’t let this nonsense become a reality…
724. M. Schaeffer | May 12, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Please do not continue with this ill-advised mandate.
725. Jarod Pranno | May 12, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Any time you leave your home, you are at risk of something, but that’s no reason to stop living your life. As someone in a creative field, it is hard enough to get creative people to move here; the damage to Chicago culture that this ordinance would cause can only make it even harder.
This is an absurd ordinance from an absurd city government.
726. Craig Bechtel | May 12, 2008 at 12:14 pm
This ordinance is without question the WRONG THING TO DO, and is close to coming to fruition without a sufficient level of public input. Do not let big business drive the little guy out of business again! A Chicago without the vibrant live music scene it has now would be a shell of itself. Enforce the existing laws, but don’t punish the little guy because of one aberrant catastrophe! If I had a blog, I would blog about this at http://www.myspace.com/ophidiodeity.com — I just might have to start now!
727. Vanessa | May 12, 2008 at 12:17 pm
It’s a shame that the nightlife in Chicago has already been down hill. There are not that many venues as it is, but to propose this ordinance is outrageous. I hope everyone will do what they can to keep the real nightlife alive.
728. Catherine Gavriel | May 12, 2008 at 12:18 pm
Please don’t pass this ordinance. If it passes, Chicago’s cultural scene will no longer be able to compete with other cities’. City Council should act to promote Chicago’s culture, not deflate it.
Add my name to the list please.
Catherine Gavriel
729. Rich Frye | May 12, 2008 at 12:18 pm
As an amature musician in Chicago I oppose this ordinance.
730. Dana | May 12, 2008 at 12:18 pm
The meeting for this ridiculous crap.
It’s at 121 N. LaSalle, 2nd floor, this Wed May 14 at 10 AM.
731. Vini Demon | May 12, 2008 at 12:18 pm
NO,NO,NO,NO,NO,NO,NO,NO,NO,NO,NO,NO,NO!!!
This ordinance is wrong on every level imaginable, and is just one more bad idea, in a long line bad ideas; some that, unfortunately, have already come into fruition.
Wake up Chicago: you’re well on your way to destroying all that has made you great.
732. matt bender | May 12, 2008 at 12:19 pm
As the city hopes to showcase itself as world class by hosting the Olympics, a stifling ordnance like this sends the message that freedom of expression and creativity are only supported if you have the cash.
733. Taylor Klasinski | May 12, 2008 at 12:19 pm
This is outrageous!
734. Pat Prange | May 12, 2008 at 12:20 pm
This is absolutely disastrous. I support all my friends in the Arts and hope the City Council will too.
735. Hanna LoPatin | May 12, 2008 at 12:20 pm
As both a performer and lover of Chicago’s performance scene, I adamantly oppose this ordinance.
736. Caroline | May 12, 2008 at 12:20 pm
How much more can the city do to try and ruin our tourism? This is unbelievable and outrageous. The economy is bad enough without the city trying to take food out of the mouths of the people in the service and entertainment industry.
737. Mike McKeown | May 12, 2008 at 12:20 pm
Chicago is know throughout the world as one of the major hubs of improv and sketch comedy. This is due in large part to small venues giving performers the chance to hone their skills and entertain audineces on a nightly basis. If you take away the independent spirit of entrepreneurship it will hurt the reputation Chicago has built up over the years.
738. Allison Bosma | May 12, 2008 at 12:21 pm
This is ridiculous. As a city that prides itself on being culturally and creatively diverse, we should take a long hard look at what this ordinance stiffles: CULTURE AND CREATIVITY!! K
739. Heather Lindahl | May 12, 2008 at 12:22 pm
Why do so many talented people live and make work in Chicago? Why didn’t they move to New York or LA? Because unlike those other cities, Chicago is a place where actors, dancers, musicians, performance artists etc are not forced to find a niche to fit into, here, they can create their own niche. They can do it one show at a time and they can EXPERIMENT.
Please resist the temptation to apply the small business template to the business of creating cultural happenings. The best theater company in the city, possibly the country, has been selling tickets for “$10 if you’ve got it Free if your broke” for over a decade now- because they can. There are more than enough venues to support this MO. If Chicago wants to be a world class city, this promoter’s ordinance is NOT the way to go about it. The deadening sameness of the huge factory-churned-out touring shows (that are coddled by this ordinance) in theaters all across the U.S. (like T.V. sit-coms and shopping malls across the U.S.) serve only to wipe out regional identities while seeking profits. People’s lives are not enriched by this type of event. Nor are they enriched by the traffic jams, gang violence and bad weather. It is the vibrant cultural happenings in little nooks and crannies all around the city that make being a Chicagoan worth it. The international reputation Chicago has gained for hosting an enormous community of cutting edge and masterful performers, musicians and artists is incredibly hard won, and was fostered by an environment conducive to independent small scale productions. Hobbling the efforts of emerging artists by creating an environment hostile to this type of event-making would not only be to the detriment of the heart and soul of the city; it would also knock us right off of the cosmopolitan map and into the mediocrity bin. This promoter’s ordinance is bad for Chicago. If you love Chicago please kill the ordinance.
740. Allan Cardenas | May 12, 2008 at 12:22 pm
I am strongly opposed to this ordinance!
741. Tina Campbell | May 12, 2008 at 12:22 pm
I am concerned after raeding the outline of this ordiance, and I hope our aldermen hear our collective concerns. Clearly this is not the solution, and while safety is vital, hurting these smaller venues will not help anyone. I would hate to see our thriving music scene squashed here in the city, it is oine of the aspects that makes me proud to live here.
742. Brian Grabiner | May 12, 2008 at 12:22 pm
This is terrible for culture in Chicago and great for the insurance companies. Don’t these guys already get enough preferential treatment? Tis a shame!
Brian Grabiner
Mess Marketing
743. Justin Flieth | May 12, 2008 at 12:22 pm
this is ridiculous…especially at this point in time….Chicago’s music scene is thriving and its all because of the important role everyone in the community plays in it…do you really want to put a stop to something like that….seriously
744. Ari Seder | May 12, 2008 at 12:22 pm
I am a Chicago resident and strongly opposed to this ordinance.
745. Scott McGaughey | May 12, 2008 at 12:23 pm
Is this a joke?
Let’s not regress
746. MARC | May 12, 2008 at 12:23 pm
This is again another way to restrict us from doing something we love. STOP THE ORDINANCE
747. Angela | May 12, 2008 at 12:23 pm
This is preposterous! It is agreeable that if the original laws were enforced at E2, none of this would be needed. Negligence at an isolated incident does not constitute placing every other law abiding establishment out of business. Those that refuse to follow the law such as E2 will only keep doing what they are doing (not following already established laws) while those who are law abiding lose out. This only hurts the honest people. Please keep this in mind.
748. Lidnsay | May 12, 2008 at 12:23 pm
This will push events out of the city, or into the “underground.” Either way we, the people who live in the city suffer. Let the little guy be.
749. Liz Knight | May 12, 2008 at 12:24 pm
With a 10% sales tax and now this? Chicago is looking less and less appealing to continue to live in…
750. Christopher J. Caluya | May 12, 2008 at 12:24 pm
this ordinance will ruin the chicago underground music and theater scene. i thought chicago was proud of their artistic cultural acheivements but apparently, they don’t care enough about the vast majority of chicagoans that participate and create music and theater.
Christopher J. Caluya
751. Lauren Kitchen | May 12, 2008 at 12:25 pm
Chicago should be supporting its arts scene, not hurting it.
752. Gabriel Patti | May 12, 2008 at 12:25 pm
It’s obvious this law is for large venue promoters to gain another monopoly on Chicago’s art/music scene. Once again our city officials are betraying artists to chase a buck….
753. Allison | May 12, 2008 at 12:25 pm
This is ridiculous. As a city that prides itself on being culturally and creatively diverse, we need to take a long hard look at what this ordinance stiffles: CULTURE AND CREATIVITY!! Keep this up and you’ll lose the essence of music, theater, comedy, and art in generl in the city of Chicago. BIG THINGS START SMALL…DO NOT PASS THIS THING!!
754. Erik | May 12, 2008 at 12:26 pm
I strongly oppose this ordinance.
755. Amanda Cox | May 12, 2008 at 12:26 pm
If this ban is placed on promotions in Chicago, it will stifle the musical, artistic, and social components that make Chicago the wonderful place that it is. As a lover of the Chicago music scene, and friend to those directly involved, I would be deeply saddened and disappointed if this ordinance were to pass.
756. Elizabeth Morgan | May 12, 2008 at 12:26 pm
This would the theatre community terribly. Please do not pass this ordinance. The arts community is politically active. We vote!!!!!
757. Ben Coleman | May 12, 2008 at 12:26 pm
I am a great fan of the city and its music scene, both as a visitor and as a performer who has found Chicago to be vibrant and original.
Please don’t waste the legacy of the thousands of talented performers who made this town what it is, and continue to drive the city’s culture to new, exciting places.
758. Ross Felten | May 12, 2008 at 12:27 pm
Chicago’s local music thrives on the variety o of small venues to play at.
DON’T TAKE THAT AWAY FROM US!!!
759. E.Williams | May 12, 2008 at 12:27 pm
Why should we help the city support the 2016 Olympics when an ordinance like this could destroy the opportunity for many musicians and actors living in our city to earn a living?
760. Jonathan Gorske | May 12, 2008 at 12:27 pm
This is a typical City of Chicago response to a problem. The E2 Nightclub incident was a tragedy, but the answer does not lie in this ordinance. If the City of Chicago had enforced the many existing laws that the E2 nightlcub had broken, the tragedy would never have occurred.
This broad and general ordinance will punish the entire arts community for an isolated incident, and effectively destroy the creative culture that makes this city great.
Think twice, Chicago Aldermen, because I guarantee that the many people who care about this issue will be voting based on it.
761. jennifer reiter | May 12, 2008 at 12:27 pm
I have emailed my alderman as has my partner asking him to vote NO to this nonsense. As a DIY promoter of all things indie POP!, this would stop me in my tracks. This city cannot afford to enact this, no matter what music scene(s) you are a part of. I wish I could leave the office and support you all on Wednesday, but I will be there in spirit.
762. Dennis aka Paws | May 12, 2008 at 12:27 pm
This is WRONG!!! I promote several shows a year to benifit MS, Cancer, Vets, Autism, etc, etc…
GOVERMENT GET OUT OF OUR LIVES!!!!
763. Susan Lee | May 12, 2008 at 12:27 pm
Find another way to prevent future E2 disasters. This isn’t the solution.
This proposal destroys the Chicago art scene.
764. Tim B. | May 12, 2008 at 12:27 pm
Please, Chicago City Council, do not pass this ordinance. The very identifying features that make Chicago what it is, that set it apart from other cities in our country, would be crushed by the measures set forth. Please take the time to understand the long, long list of negative cultural ramifications this would incur. Chicago would no longer be Chicago, a place where young and old, experienced and inexperienced, can gain and practice vital artistic endeavours. This is a step in the worst possible direction for a city with such a vibrant arts scene. Even the venues exempt from this ordinance would ultimately suffer greatly.
765. Terrence Allen | May 12, 2008 at 12:28 pm
This new legislation would essentially put half of the entertainment industry in Chicago out of business. If the capacity laws had been adhered to before the E2 incident, tragedy would have been averted.
766. Fausto Lopez | May 12, 2008 at 12:28 pm
This bill is unnecessary and will make it impossible to program accessible cultural events in the city. The fees associated with this bill will drive ticket prices for admission up. In the present state of the economy this will leave fans and patrons disenfranchised.
Please vote against this bill!
767. Jeff Deff | May 12, 2008 at 12:28 pm
Why is it that when Chicago becomes known for something, the city tries to squash it with ridiculous ordinances? For example, Chicago generates international interest for it’s food scene (not taste of chicago) and the city decides to outlaw foie gras? The city will be there to try and trip up any momentum that is built by local artists, musicians, chefs or other creative types. The cultural landscape the city government wants is Navy Pier, Wicked and Lollapalooza drawing in lots of Wisconsin and Michigan tourist types. Other cities encourage small business and cultural endeavors that serve the people. This city should be working hard to create new opportunities for creative people to thrive and to nurture galleries and other venues through grants and incentive programs.
768. David Foster | May 12, 2008 at 12:29 pm
Don’t make it a crime to play music, simple as that.
769. Josh Zagoren | May 12, 2008 at 12:29 pm
This would be a shameful mistake.
770. Greg | May 12, 2008 at 12:29 pm
This is ridiculous and should not pass!!!
771. Carol Ray | May 12, 2008 at 12:29 pm
This is very ill advised on the part of the City Council. While looking for ways to increase city revenue they will instead be destroying the roots of Chicago’s vibrant music scene. Every large act that comes out of Chicago starts at the small club level…there are dozens of today’s rock, jazz and blues stars that started in our small venues. I would suggest that the City Council look deeper into existing city budget problems such as ghost payrolls and payoffs for funds. As every Chicagoan knows, there’s plenty more where that came from. Just keepin’ it real, City Council. You should do the same.
772. Ruby Harris | May 12, 2008 at 12:29 pm
A plot of the government to steal money and tax the poor innocents (like parking and traffic tickets) and destroy music and art.
773. joe m | May 12, 2008 at 12:29 pm
Crap
774. mark reyes | May 12, 2008 at 12:30 pm
This would be a tragedy for the city of Chicago. We have long been known as a breeding ground for amazing creative talent. If this becomes a law, we will alienate a large portion of our creative talent pool, and the culture of the city will suffer.
775. Peter Strickland | May 12, 2008 at 12:30 pm
This is absurd stop trying to destroy the great culture of Chicago
776. Ben Hartschuh | May 12, 2008 at 12:30 pm
This simply cannot happen.
777. Sam McMorris | May 12, 2008 at 12:30 pm
What good could possibly come out of this?
778. Eric Reyes | May 12, 2008 at 12:32 pm
This is pointless. What will this fix. Nothing. Lets hope the city counciil isnt extremely ignorant.
779. Carol LeBras | May 12, 2008 at 12:32 pm
Please do NOT PASS this ordinance! Small venues make a big difference in the cultural life of this city! Don’t let this happen to Chicago! Support music don’t discourage it.
780. Nick Zaglaras | May 12, 2008 at 12:32 pm
This is an outrage! There is no way we can let this ordinance come into action!
781. Kirk Finley | May 12, 2008 at 12:33 pm
The proposed ordinance is unreal – and pathetic. I’d like to know what triggered this proposal, as I am strongly opposed.
782. marsha thom | May 12, 2008 at 12:33 pm
add my name to this petition – Save Chicago Culture!
783. Adam | May 12, 2008 at 12:33 pm
This Makes no sense what so ever? Why would you suffocate the music and culture scene of this city with such an outlandish law?
784. Graham Bartholomae | May 12, 2008 at 12:34 pm
this bill shall not pass.
785. Karl Hafner | May 12, 2008 at 12:34 pm
This is absolutely the dumbest thing I have ever seen!!! Save Music!!!
786. bob wronkiewicz | May 12, 2008 at 12:35 pm
I know we have to safeguard the public, but can’t we try to encourage small establishments just starting out. Performers need somewhere to play, and it is getting increasingly hard to get people out from behing their computers.
Please try to see that this law will become another setback for performers, and the vibrancy of city.
Thanks
787. Thymme Jones | May 12, 2008 at 12:35 pm
Yep, this ordinance would pretty much effectively destroy the vibrant Chicago music scene (which certainly falls squarely within the top three in the country). Please, let us not allow this to happen.
788. John Besenhofer | May 12, 2008 at 12:35 pm
I can’t believe that the elected council of the City of Chicago would waste their time and the citzens’ ( the voters) of Chicago on an ordinance that would stiffel the creativity and the freedom of its citizens. Take great caution, the VOTERS OF CHICAGO are taking note and our memories are long !
789. Kate Mathews | May 12, 2008 at 12:35 pm
This will ruin the music and nightlife scene in Chicago as we know it. I protest!
790. Bryant Arvesen | May 12, 2008 at 12:36 pm
This is recidulous. If this passes, shows in the city will be impossible to have.
791. Lucid Ground | May 12, 2008 at 12:36 pm
We physically want to hurt whoever thought of this!!!!
792. Peter | May 12, 2008 at 12:36 pm
You cannot suppress art
793. Noel Chambers | May 12, 2008 at 12:36 pm
Tax, tax, tax….everything from cab fare to bottled water to restaurant sales tax has been jacked up in the last year. Property taxes continue to skyrocket. Meanwhile our 50 alderman make well over 100k a year for what is essentially a part time job. Connected contractors and investment firms get millions in sweetheart deals we seldom hear about. The Mayor goes into a rage when his goofy Children’s Museum isn’t rubberstamped for construction on OUR public land. And now the city wants to cripple via taxation the independant arts scene, one of the most wondeful aspects of life in Chicago.
This is an important thing to for which to take a stand. What a shame it would if our storefront theatres and small music venues are stamped out in a mad rush for more revenue to waste on bloat and graft.
794. Randy Brown | May 12, 2008 at 12:36 pm
this is horrible. if you take away our outlets
to express ourselves in a positive and creative way
it will only make things worse. people will not have
a positive response. it just seems like a way to cause
more problems. or for the city to make money.
795. Joel Estrada | May 12, 2008 at 12:36 pm
dont strip Chicago of this. i beg you.
796. Brendan Kelly | May 12, 2008 at 12:36 pm
This is absolutely insane. An ordinance like this would slaughter Chicago’s culture.
797. Daniel Forden | May 12, 2008 at 12:37 pm
I oppose this ordinance. This is an example of bad governance and will accomplish very little that was intended while having many unintended consequences.
798. Chris Downs | May 12, 2008 at 12:37 pm
Please dont let this happen!
799. Ben | May 12, 2008 at 12:37 pm
I’m in Chicago because of the accessibility of these types of small performances. There would be no reason for me to stay if this passes.
800. VVirginia Ardolino | May 12, 2008 at 12:37 pm
As a vistor to Chicago frequently from the suburbs to see many different show venues I find this outrageous. Many actors who now are in the bug shows started in smaller shows in these venues you are wanting to do away with. Let’s STOP this NOW!
801. Graham Bartholomae | May 12, 2008 at 12:38 pm
is this considered my signature?
802. Nathalie Nguyen | May 12, 2008 at 12:38 pm
This is utterly ridiculous and this ordinance should not be passed.
803. Joe Moreno | May 12, 2008 at 12:38 pm
The greatest city in the states for music
804. Phil Denigris | May 12, 2008 at 12:39 pm
This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard in my life. I’m 1,000% percent against ordinance. Being a musician myself, it’s pretty sickening to even hear something like this even being considered. Are we turning into fascists?
805. Dan Platt | May 12, 2008 at 12:39 pm
Thumbs down on this proposal!
806. nicole montgomery | May 12, 2008 at 12:40 pm
This is a VERY bad idea! Do not pass this ordinance.
807. Charlotte Coleman | May 12, 2008 at 12:40 pm
As an independent promoter working to create the biggest after parties for Lollapalooza, this will completely shatter all the hard work that people have put into place to create an overall enjoyable music experience in Chicago. Please stand up against this bill.
808. Adam K | May 12, 2008 at 12:41 pm
Just dont do that. That would be taking away my life every weekend. And that is why I live in Chicago. And murder is illegal.
809. Ilana | May 12, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Shame on you City Hall. This ordinance must not pass.
810. Elizabeth McQuern | May 12, 2008 at 12:42 pm
I produce a non-music show every week at the Beat Kitchen and my co-producer and I would have to scramble madly to accommodate the requirements of this proposal, and even then might not be able to swing it.
THUMBS DOWN.
And why has there been no public discourse on this proposed ordinance?
811. Fran Allen-Leake | May 12, 2008 at 12:42 pm
The proposed Promoter’s Ordinance is the most ridiculous and contrived piece of legislation the city of Chicago has conceived to date. This Ordinance, if passed, will do only two things: 1. Stymie the creative diversity that makes up the beautiful fabric of Chicago’s arts community; 2. Place independent musicians, artists, promoters, venues and the people they serve at financial and creative risk. We have already seen how this kind of “Gestapo” legislation has impacted our schools and community centers, that now have precious little arts education and substinative programming. The E2 nightclub disaster needed no more NEW laws; just enforcement of the current laws. This proposal is totally ill-conceived, and will do nothing more than totally alienate artists and local business from the peoples they strive to serve.
Fran Allen-Leake
Chief Producer & Artist Representative
LJet Productions
Chicago, Illinois
812. Brittany Gober | May 12, 2008 at 12:43 pm
Chicago is one of the few cities left that has actually retained a cultural identity. Please do not take that away. Chicago is what it is for it’s art, music, and it’s people’s creative expressions. This is something that must be maintained and protected.
813. Brigid Finucane | May 12, 2008 at 12:44 pm
This ordinance will effectively stifle and perhaps snuff out the
vitality of the arts community by making it too expensive or unwieldy a process to perform. It is an splashy response to a disaster that happened years ago, and does not provide a responsible solution, only a completely overblown ordinance which inhibits creative growth, penalizes small venues with limited resources and punishes non-corporate artists and their potential audiences.
814. Jennifer Barnes | May 12, 2008 at 12:44 pm
Please, let’s keep Chicago’s nightlife and culture as vibrant and diverse as it is now…it’s a huge selling point for locals and visitors alike. This ordinance would weed out 99% of what is interesting…
815. Ceci Ayala-Bland | May 12, 2008 at 12:45 pm
The city would be at a great loss without our Theather and Music. This can not happen.
Ceci Ayala=Bland
816. MBurns | May 12, 2008 at 12:45 pm
Wow- 700 comments and counting!
Please be sure to contact your alderman in addition to forwarding this to concerned friends.
817. Jason Olson | May 12, 2008 at 12:45 pm
Stop this before it starts
818. Julia Rochholz | May 12, 2008 at 12:45 pm
So many people rely on Chicago’s diverse artistic outlets for entertainment and survival! This can not happen!
819. kellyq | May 12, 2008 at 12:46 pm
This city is nothing without it’s culture. This ordinance restricts what so many have worked for and promoted- diversity, artistry, and creativity.
820. Tamara Matthews | May 12, 2008 at 12:46 pm
Is this ordinance really necessary? Behind the comfort of my computer screen, I heartily oppose!
821. jk | May 12, 2008 at 12:46 pm
absolutely dispicable.
do not let this pass!
822. Coreena | May 12, 2008 at 12:47 pm
Chicago bands have it hard enough as it is to be heard…let’s not make it even harder by letting this thing happen.
823. carl proctor | May 12, 2008 at 12:47 pm
HOW CAN YOU CLEAR THE CHARGES ON THE PROMOTER AND CLUB OWNERS OF E2, THEN MAKE US ALL PAY?????
824. steve adler | May 12, 2008 at 12:48 pm
just another cheap shot at the little man for the city to drain us of as much money a they can.It will most likely back fire on them and they’ll make less
825. Steven I. Wolf | May 12, 2008 at 12:48 pm
Who is the city trying to protect? Where would those collected fees go and how would those monies be used to benefit the citzens of our city?
Since the smoking ban ordinance was passed, it is already getting increasingly harder to bring people out to local venues to support our entertainment and creative arts communities.
Please don’t let them pass a law that will hurt the hard working efforts of local promoters who already don’t earn enough for their hard work that benefits everone!
826. The Event Promoters’ Ordinance | Chicago Metblogs | May 12, 2008 at 12:48 pm
[...] weblog Save Chicago Culture is collecting signatures in opposition to the ordinance. On their site you can find a .pdf of the [...]
827. nick colionne | May 12, 2008 at 12:49 pm
I think this is crazy. Many of us musicians depend on these small venues to survive and support ourselves and our families. I think the idea is Ludicrous
828. Kurt Iselt | May 12, 2008 at 12:50 pm
I am against the proposal – with as much venom and anger as humanly possible. This is a terrible way for the city to try raising revenue.
829. Michael Narvaez | May 12, 2008 at 12:51 pm
The Day the Music Died could be May 14th
I know this is my second rant, but I had more to say.
As a playing musician and sound engineer in this city for almost thirty years I’ve seen a lot of great talent struggle in this town, but always had opportunities by starting out in smaller venues and having a chance to work their way up and build followings. I’ve had the opportunity to do sound for the Smashing Pumpkins when they were doing smaller clubs, and saw Styx playing at a high school before their first album. Will opportunities like this exist for artist in Chicago if this ordinance passes?
My partners and I about two years ago put together this Podcast show called Chicago Acoustic Underground http://www.chicagoacoustic,net in hopes of giving a chance for new acts to have another platform to be heard, and to give them a quality recording and putting together showcases featuring some of the amazing talent this city has to offer.
The response has been over whelming! We have 150,000 listeners in over thirty countries and growing stronger each and every day. We now also have touring musicians now wanting to be on the show that do nothing but praise this great city and its cultural diversifies which now is threaten to be stomped out by government bureaucracy!
This city of big shoulders could get the cold shoulder if these government bureaucrats try to stifle a chance for up and coming artists, and what kind of town will Chicago become? Can anyone on the City Council please explain how this ordinance will not change Chicago’s cultural community? Just what kind of Chicago do they perceive?
Michael Narvaez
Chicago Acoustic Underground
http://www.chicagoacoustic.net
830. Ron Goldberg | May 12, 2008 at 12:51 pm
This is a reactive decision which handcuffs many responsible and fantastic venues. Chicago policy makers need to understand the fantastic music scene that exists in this city and not kill it as a repercussion to one bad night at one isolated club. It makes no sense to punish some very responsible clubs that have added so much to the landscape of Chicago’s amazing music scene. This is bad policymaking at its finest.
831. Eric Reidelberger | May 12, 2008 at 12:51 pm
This ordinance is so ridiculous that the mind boggles.
Does the city really need money t5hat bad that it’s willing to suck all the culture right out of it?
Isn’t my barrage of parking tickets enough to sustain the greed?
832. Shannon DeLuca | May 12, 2008 at 12:51 pm
Ridiculous.
833. andy slater | May 12, 2008 at 12:52 pm
this ordinance will set back any goals to make Chicago culturally important. it will make it harder for independent music/art/theater to survive.
if the expenses inflate for promoters, that will effect the artists’ income amd the show goers confidence. its hard enough to fill a room as it is, and adding more costs to the production of an event will make it even harder.
834. Brian Boatner | May 12, 2008 at 12:52 pm
Come on! You know this isn’t right! You know this isn’t fair!
835. Doony Fite | May 12, 2008 at 12:52 pm
Very disturbing and unfair. Underground music is not a gateway drug.
836. Mark Roberts | May 12, 2008 at 12:52 pm
This law will hurt Chicago’s hospitality and tourism business. Please vote against this proposal!
837. Samantha Ross | May 12, 2008 at 12:52 pm
One of my favorite things about Chicago is the scope of live entertainment by so many talented local and touring artists in such an amazing variety of venues from giant seated theatres to warm tiny clubs. I have many friends who come from all across the country and the world to see performances from anywhere from the Hideout to the Auditorium Theatre. Doing anything to stifle the creativity on display here would be a gross injustice. Live entertainment should not be limited to the large rich corporations. A move such as this would drive talent and tourism away from Chicago.
838. Dan Doyle | May 12, 2008 at 12:53 pm
Way to go Daley, what, are you out of original ideas on how to make more money for your pals? Fingerprints? Get serious!!
Do not pass this ordinance.
839. Stephen Steim | May 12, 2008 at 12:54 pm
This is basically a “get tough” response to E2. While it might get some good press for an aspiring alderman, it is an attack on art and culture in Chicago. The City Council should avoid this ridiculous knee-jerk reaction. If Chicago is really a global city, it can find a way to keep its citizens safe without seriously damaging its cultural community.
840. Vincent Proce | May 12, 2008 at 12:54 pm
Chicago’s culture is one of the reasons I still live here. No Ordinance Please!
841. DJ Sokola | May 12, 2008 at 12:55 pm
STOP THIS BILL!
842. Paul Cawthon | May 12, 2008 at 12:55 pm
Save the music scene. The City is getting out of hand
843. Jennifer Hoover | May 12, 2008 at 12:55 pm
Unneccessary and ill-advised.
Please don’t let this happen!
“Above all, we are coming to understand that the arts incarnate the creativity of a free people. When the creative impulse cannot flourish, when it cannot freely select its methods and objects, when it is deprived of spontaneity, then society severs” – JFK
844. Lisa Aylesworth | May 12, 2008 at 12:55 pm
Chicago’s small grassroots venues for music, art and theater are what makes this city vibrant and livable. I can’t imagine living here and not being able to enjoy hearing a small band play at a local bar, or walking into a gallery where art and music are shared experiences. Some of my most memorable theater experiences have been in tiny places where I paid $15 for a ticket. DO NOT TAKE THIS AWAY FROM OUR CITY.
845. Krystal | May 12, 2008 at 12:56 pm
How can this happen? I go to soooo many concerts, I couldnt even imagine life without them. This ordinance is not necessary, and should be out down immediately. I am TOTALLY against it. Fight this, this cannot happen!
846. Leigh kelsey | May 12, 2008 at 12:56 pm
I book shows at a small music venue. This proposed ordinance is totally ludicrous. Part of why Chicago has such an amazing, vibrant varied music community is because we have so many small venues scattered across the entire city. This ordinance will hurt all of them. Many “event promoters” are young and determined to promote the hell out of their shows. Please don’t hurt the little guys.
847. Stacey Marquardt | May 12, 2008 at 12:57 pm
OPPOSE!!
Please listen to the voice of your community.
This is a case of throwing the baby out with the bathwater. We all want safe events in licensed venues, but this is a ridiculously vague law that punishes upstanding venues, promoters and musicians for the sins of a few.
848. Mario Di Sandro | May 12, 2008 at 12:57 pm
as a musician, this is appalling and unfair to the countless other of musicians in this great city that count on smaller local shows to get even the slightest attention brought to their music/art. this would cripple the amazing musical community that everyone knows and loves about chicago. please know that this will not be good for the city or it’s residents. this will not stand.
849. Todd Killings | May 12, 2008 at 12:57 pm
Please reconsider this absolutely unnecessary “Law” that would only hurt Chicago culture more than anything else, and would even detract from tourism centered around live music. Underground music is an important part of our great city and limiting the ability to see live music will only result in more violent crime and vandalism, which no one needs. And if people can’t go see live music in an intimate setting in Chicago, then there’s NO WAY we’ll ever get the Olympics here. It’s just that simple.
850. john cooper | May 12, 2008 at 12:57 pm
In a town that is supose to be “visitor friendly” and promoting activities for enjoyment, pleasure and a desire for tourists to return and continue to “spend” money in Chicago and with local merchants this makes no sense. It could lead to a very sterile city with little spontanous activities. We should be seeking to have as much culturre diversity as possible not limit venues. Part of the charm of summer months in Chicago is variety of activities and small entertainment pockets that visitors and residents can enjoy with out big overhead ticket prices. Do not pass this ordiance.
851. Dan Geiger | May 12, 2008 at 12:57 pm
This ordinance would in no way prevent another tragedy such as the E2 nightclub. Instead, it places an undue burden on independent artists and small venues with a proven track record of success such as Park West, The Vic, The Metro etc… As a global city, Chicago should be welcoming artists from around the world rather than creating more hoops for them to jump through. This type of ordinance will only backfire as more artists choose to skip Chicago rather than deal with bureaucracy. In the end, this is a loss for the artists themselves and the citizens of Chicago.
I have recently attended two smaller concerts that would have been jeopardized by this type of ordinance. If the local music scene suffers as a result of this, I would definitely not rule out moving out of Chicago to a city more welcoming to the arts.
852. Matt D'Agostino | May 12, 2008 at 12:57 pm
As a Chicago Public School teacher I feel this law would greatly diminish the already faultering creative arts programming offered in this city. Often times, it is only at these small theaters where I am able to afford to take my students to see a production. They deserve the right to see Shakespeare, Mammet, Isben, Wolfe, and Stoppard. In a world that is already getting more impersonal every day, it is the amazing theater system that offers our citizens a release from their lives, and the opportunity to grow as members of this human society. Please, let our theater and music venues continue to do their job. They deserve the right to help shape this world with their art.
853. Kristen Lehner | May 12, 2008 at 12:58 pm
No, please.
Kristen Lehner
854. Laura Wilkinson | May 12, 2008 at 12:58 pm
This ordinance is a terrible idea and one that will surely jeopardize independent venues across Chicago. I strongly oppose, and so will everyone else in the city when they hear about it.
855. Steven Rosado | May 12, 2008 at 12:58 pm
Consider this comment my official “signature” voicing my dissaproval with this ordinance. If it passes, the city art scene as we know it will cease to exist. I live in the 35th ward and have already called Rey Colon to express my concern over this proposal in hopes that he will vote no for the ordinance and stand with the people on this one, not allowing the city greed to destroy our community arts.
-Steven Rosado
856. Ulla M. | May 12, 2008 at 12:58 pm
Please, do not that happen!
857. Danny Lopatka | May 12, 2008 at 12:58 pm
This is seriously outrageous. I play all around chicago and the suburbs every week with various different groups and i’m only 19. I couldn’t even get a license if i wanted to! I’m not the only one either. Tons of my friends who are in the music department of UIC along with me do the same thing.
From a promoter’s stand point, which i do for some of my groups, most people don’t want to drive out to some random suburb to see their friends’ bands.
Also, what will happen to touring bands? Are they going to come all the way out to chicago only to find they need a license to play somewhere?
ridiculous.
858. Ann McGregor | May 12, 2008 at 12:58 pm
This is seriously bad governance. As an aspiring cabaret singer, I don’t have the money to pay for such fees in order to perform.
859. Dan Filowitz | May 12, 2008 at 1:00 pm
As someone who has produced several small-venue theatrical performances in this city, this new law would be outrageously prohibitive.
It can’t be allowed to pass.
860. Virginia Hunt | May 12, 2008 at 1:00 pm
This is ridiculous! There are free shows all over Chicago that are just as good… PLEASE CHICAGO, do NOT pass the ordinance!
861. Geoff Freimark | May 12, 2008 at 1:01 pm
This is not only outrageous as a law, it’s too vague to even be considered one! This ordinance will affect every promoter, musician, DJ, actor/actress, or street performer in the city! Enough with over-legislation!
862. Liz Roth | May 12, 2008 at 1:01 pm
please do not pass this ordinance. it will be the final nail in the chicago music scene’s coffin.
863. Ben Zastrow | May 12, 2008 at 1:02 pm
Come on artists and fans. We need to stop this law from being past. Chicago is the creative melting of the United States. We need to come together and express ourselves.
864. Adam Garel | May 12, 2008 at 1:03 pm
As an adult who now resides in Chicago and has been watching music in this great city since I was a young boy, this new ordinance would greatly restrict the productive and passionate voice that this city’s music has been providing.
These fees are ridiculous and should not have any grip on performers in the area.
865. Brooks Smith | May 12, 2008 at 1:03 pm
I have played in bands and have “promoted” my own shows for more than 2 decades in Chicago.
The style of music that I play is not a commercially viable form of entertainment. The fans that it draws are neither great in number nor well to do, in fact, most of them are in their teens and have a very limited disposable income.
Until now, it has been possible for us to secure venues to put on these shows because of sympathetic club owners or even individuals who are willing to allow the use of their home or place of business.
This ordinance will not only kill the music scene that we are involved in but it will make it very difficult for independent touring bands to call Chicago one of their regular stops.
This ordinance will send a message that Chicago only cares to embrace forms of entertainment with deep pockets.
Shameful.
866. Ryan Scott | May 12, 2008 at 1:03 pm
I strongly disagree with this bill.
867. Ray Pritchett | May 12, 2008 at 1:04 pm
Peace Of Mind!!! Fuck Tha Government!! Its Hard Enough To Make An Honest Living As It Is… The More our Government Puts Limitations On Things, The Higher Our CRIME RATE GOES UP!!! Whatever Happened To Land Of The Free And Home Of The Brave?? Well I’m Brave Enough To say That That Is How We Our Losing Our Freedom!!! Thanks For The Info! And Thanks For Your Support!! PEACE!!!
868. Dan Telfer | May 12, 2008 at 1:04 pm
This would effectively crush Chicago culture, where 99% of the performers and performers do it for their love of the art and make no money for such a situation.
Knock it off, you insane rich people. Clearly you have no concept of how this city’s art is created.
869. Margaret Emish | May 12, 2008 at 1:05 pm
I am strongly opposed to this ordinance. One of the best reasons to live in this city is because of the thriving music and theater scene, this is ridiculous and absolutely should not be passed.
870. Don Hoss | May 12, 2008 at 1:05 pm
And to think city officials think they want the olympics — this city is based on “culture” not restrictions. how could you even think people would want to come here with nothing to see or do, except for big inside entertainment items. We need community and variety of exposurte for our local artists and musicans to go and be seen!
871. Kevin Krause | May 12, 2008 at 1:06 pm
This law is the most ridiculous law i’ve ever seen.
this law should pass. Where will local bands play?
872. BETH MCDOWELL | May 12, 2008 at 1:06 pm
This legislation is ridiculous. Such high licensing fees prohibit any promotions from smaller venues, artists, and promotions companies, and resultantly prohibit any growth and development of local music and arts. The only people with enough money to pay these fees are larger touring and record companies.
873. Jamie T | May 12, 2008 at 1:06 pm
Chicago has such a rich culture through out theatre, music, and art. we can’t let this happen.
874. Ray Pritchett | May 12, 2008 at 1:07 pm
Stand Up For Wat U Believe In
875. Dean Milano | May 12, 2008 at 1:07 pm
Unbelievable. One more nail in the coffin for live entertainment and what little there is left of it.
876. Benjamin Hawk | May 12, 2008 at 1:09 pm
unconscionable
877. Sarah Doerr | May 12, 2008 at 1:09 pm
Please add my name to the list!
878. Colleen Glascott | May 12, 2008 at 1:09 pm
It would be a sad day to think the only place to hear a band it out in Tinley Park or Rosemont.
879. Kara Hetz | May 12, 2008 at 1:11 pm
As an individual performer, there’s no way I could afford this kind of insurance, nor could I pay for the licensing fees. Come to your senses! Do NOT pass this ordinance!
880. Jenn Remke | May 12, 2008 at 1:11 pm
Why would anyone make a law like this? Who on earth does it serve?
881. Andrea Bunch Old Town School of Folk Music | May 12, 2008 at 1:11 pm
This is an outrageous, oppressive act. It will stifle the voices of Chicago’s artists, and ruin the chance for Chicago’s citizens to create and enjoy art, music and theatre. I feel that this ordinance is against the First Amendment, as it will effectively silence anyone who is not wealthy.
882. Rebecca Zellar | May 12, 2008 at 1:12 pm
Let’s make sure this doesn’t happen.
883. Patricia J. Jones | May 12, 2008 at 1:12 pm
Passing this ordinance will be the nail in the Chicago Artistic and Smaller Theatre scenes. This is so harmful to the creative genius of the Chicgo history of smaller venues tha are no priced out of the average supporter’s pockets. PLEASE DO NOT PASS THIS UNFAIR ORDINANCE.
884. Brett Sova | May 12, 2008 at 1:12 pm
The idea of losing even a mere fraction of the amazing cultural events and opportunities this city has to offer is sickening and unacceptable!
885. Amy Rosen | May 12, 2008 at 1:12 pm
I’m with y’all, this ordinance makes no sense.
886. Norell Waltmire | May 12, 2008 at 1:13 pm
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887. adam sonderberg | May 12, 2008 at 1:13 pm
grotesque.
- – - – -,
adam sonderberg
888. Heidi Nebel | May 12, 2008 at 1:14 pm
What would be the point of living in a city that has been forced to become just as homogenized as the suburbs? We may as well outlaw wearing any color other than beige.
889. Clare K. | May 12, 2008 at 1:14 pm
Why would Chicago want to kill independent productions? It’s a great attraction many have to the city and a lack of the many small venue bands and small plays would ruin a large part of Chicago’s personality.
890. Maura Langevin | May 12, 2008 at 1:14 pm
I am just about to turn 21, and have been waiting for years to get into these places in order to listen to small venue, live music. Don’t take it away from me! I’ve been waiting for too long!
891. sarah | May 12, 2008 at 1:15 pm
I disapprove.
892. Jeanie B! | May 12, 2008 at 1:15 pm
As a person who makes their living performing music all over Chicagoland in smaller venues, this means certain death to my career and many others who have come to rely on the smaller venues to earn a living in this wonderful city. Think about how it would make you feel if someone in the city government one day passed an ordinance that eliminated your job potential without consulting you or caring about your career. Please find a way to root out the promoters that you seek without punishing the legitmate promoters that keep music alive in this city.
893. Marcos Ochoa | May 12, 2008 at 1:16 pm
Chicago must maintain its culture-places such as Scubas, Double Door, and other venues are the definition of Chicago and its artistic history. The beat must go on. SAVE CHICAGO CULTURE!
894. John Matthew Simon | May 12, 2008 at 1:16 pm
“This World is Ours!!!”
Daley and his cronies are up to another asinine and uneducated ordinance that will stifle the greatest music industry in the nation. Something tells me that the bankrupting of our city should be corrected and payed for out the pockets of our politicians. No more sales tax raises or idiotic ordinances to save a city that spends cash like a drunk gold coast’r. Welcome to reality… Democratic council men. We are at war and spending money like a rich kid. Don’t ruin our scene because all of you council men are trying to save your own arses. Enough is enough. Time is running out.
tell the ignorant souls to pursue necessary means to a profitable town like:
- Lake Wind Farms.
- A green tram system
- Tax breaks for bicyclists and non car riding individuals
- Recycling Programs
- A revamped industrial train system
-Rock and Rap shows at millenium park
Beauty is more than skin deep.
Save Our Culture!
Your friend,
John Matthew Simon. bully in the hallway.
895. Kerry | May 12, 2008 at 1:17 pm
Wow…. cuz chicago needs to steal more of our money. how about we just get rid of Mayor Daley???….. sounds good.
I am EXTREMELY OPPPOSED to this ordinance.
896. William Joy | May 12, 2008 at 1:17 pm
This ordinance is over-reaching and would quash unbelievable numbers of completely safe and benign events that collectively contribute to the rich cultural tapestry of Chicago. If enacted, it would almost instantly destroy a huge part of what makes Chicago culture unique and exciting.
897. Jackie Matejko | May 12, 2008 at 1:17 pm
Please don’t let this pass! Stick up for the little guy for once, Chicago!!
898. Ben Mazza | May 12, 2008 at 1:17 pm
Without “homegrown” shows and events like these, Chicago will cease to be a major cultural and artistic landmark. I would hope that the community leaders would prefer to donate finances to these projects, and not tax them.
899. David | May 12, 2008 at 1:17 pm
THIS ORDINANCE IS BULLSHIT
not all bands are big and can play venues that large so I don’t get why Chicago would do this
900. Hernan Sanchez | May 12, 2008 at 1:17 pm
Most independent venues/ promotional organizations already must surmount great financial hurdles with each event they promote, yet thankfully they persist in trying to broaden the diversity & perpetuate the growth of Chicago’s cultural landscape. This ordinance threatens to extinguish the very scene that Chicago has become known for in exchange for a prefab culture fueled by those with deep pockets. Consider the crippling effect this ill-conceived ordinance would have on our network of independent performers, theatrical organizations & performance venues should it come to pass- a great legacy would be lost, as current & future Chicago artists would be left without a voice in their own hometown. Aldermen, it is absolutely integral that you demonstrate your commitment to preserving the vitality of our local arts scene by putting forth a resounding NO to this proposed legislation- the cost is simply too great otherwise.
901. Rory | May 12, 2008 at 1:17 pm
This ordinance is preposturous. Where do ideas like this come from? Is the purpose to stifle some of Chicago’s art scene to place money in a few peoples pockets?
902. Sam Nigrosh | May 12, 2008 at 1:17 pm
As a musician, fan and citizen I strongly oppose this ordinance. Organizing shows and playing out is already such a hassle for young people and others with little resources. It’s the small venues and DIY shows that keep Chicago a worthwhile place see and play music.
903. jackie | May 12, 2008 at 1:18 pm
i am very much against this. I don’t see how one can charge a licensing fee to promote music. next thing you know there with be a charge for word-of mouth promotion too.
the city needs another cheap trick to get another buck.
904. Steven Kempner | May 12, 2008 at 1:18 pm
Unfair To Rights of Small Business
905. jason shanley | May 12, 2008 at 1:19 pm
As both a small venue music fan (that is schubas/EB/hideout/elastic/subt/reggies/ronnies/lampo/etc) and a small music venue performer, this ordance worries me. if it becomes difficult/impossible for small shows to occur then not only will the music community be hurt but Chicago as a whole will be hurt. beyond just the venues collapsing a whole subset of tourism to chicago will cease to exist and that will have far and wide impacts on the city economy in general.
a second consequnce will be more small “underground/pirate” shows. IE shows in basements and lofts, places that could be much more dangerous but nessisary as the price to be a legitimate space becomes prohibitively expensive.
please rethink the options and think about the arts/music culture of this city.
906. Brian | May 12, 2008 at 1:19 pm
Please do not pass this ordinace, artists might as well pack up and leave.
907. Michael Bocwinski | May 12, 2008 at 1:20 pm
I would move out of chicago if this happens. Stop it!
908. Dorothy Clare Tessman | May 12, 2008 at 1:20 pm
The passage of this ordinance into law would be a tragedy caused by city corruption and allowed by apathy.
Every amazing city is made up of communities of all sorts, and for Chicago to thrive, the sorts of communities which can form at almost impromtu events are essential! Those kinds of events, like “Journey to the End of the Night!” that could become prohibitively expensive under this law are what make this a fascinating and vibrant environment.
Please help to stop this!
909. Kevin Benham | May 12, 2008 at 1:20 pm
Save our city, stop the “Event Promoters” ordinance
910. Jason S. Thompson | May 12, 2008 at 1:20 pm
This is the worst thing I’ve heard all year.
I can’t believe that anyone would even THINK that this would be a good idea.
911. Steve Gadlin | May 12, 2008 at 1:20 pm
Wow, this would adversely affect my ability to promote and stage Chicago’s crazy live game show, Don’t Spit the Water! You can learn more about this show that would be difficult to promote and stage by visiting the web site, http://www.dontspitthewater.com.
912. Lili-Anne Brown | May 12, 2008 at 1:21 pm
This is yet another example of how undervalued the arts are in general. This could pretty much wipe out the entire cabaret and storefront theatre scene. And for no other reason than bureaucrats not taking the time to be specific, and consider that not all “entertainment” is created equal. Artists and party promoters can’t just be lumped together! That doesn’t even make sense.
913. kevin kurtz | May 12, 2008 at 1:22 pm
seems utterly ridiculous & against everything that a creative, free society should embrace. what are they thinking!?
914. Dillon Kelley | May 12, 2008 at 1:22 pm
Aside from expressing ourselves on the web and talking about how terrible this ordinance will be, is there anyone who is organizing a physical presence at the council meeting to make sure our voices are heard? If anyone has any information on a demonstration or anything going on at city hall, please email me at dillonkelley86@yahoo.com Thanks and hope to hear from someone soon. We need to take action!
915. Peter Hickey | May 12, 2008 at 1:22 pm
I am opposed to this ordinance. But the deal has most likely been cut and confirmed by this point. Kind of like that beautiful underground childrens museum in Grant Park. Too late.
916. Dennis M. Kelly | May 12, 2008 at 1:22 pm
Just had to voice in one more time here….
Where has the meaning to “WE THE PEOPLE” gone?
It seems that We the People now means, “We the POWERLESS” to affect changes for what we as a society really want.
Did the people ask for this ordinance? I don’t think so!
I personally feel something we really need to rethink our Government structure, from small fish all the way to the top.
They are supposed to be PUBLIC SERVANTS, not overlords who dictate what should happen and when.
But first things first, lets ensure that this ordinance will NOT pass!
917. David Daniels | May 12, 2008 at 1:23 pm
Please do not pass this ordinance. It will place an undue burden on an already struggling business.
918. Josephine Howard | May 12, 2008 at 1:23 pm
Chicago’s independent theatre and small music venues are an integral part of what makes this “Chicago.” I am opposed to the passing of this Ordinance which I see as another source of quick revenue for the City.
919. Garrett Abromitis | May 12, 2008 at 1:23 pm
It’s a shame people would try to conceive and ordinance like this.
920. Morgana Moon | May 12, 2008 at 1:23 pm
So no smoking in bars, no performing arts in bars…..whats next? this is completely wrong- and unnecessary! Come on chicago! Don’t sink lower than you have too- let people have somewhat of a choice and ability to live!
921. Nikki | May 12, 2008 at 1:24 pm
Please do not pass this ordnance. Chicago is a lively, culturally historic city and this will not only diminish the vibrancy of Chicago, it will strip away at our historic and cultural legacy. Please no!!
922. Erin Dixon | May 12, 2008 at 1:25 pm
This is very uncalled for. Where does the city get off?
923. Brett | May 12, 2008 at 1:25 pm
a lot of people would honestly use this as a great excuse to leave chicago and help feed the growing trend of migrating to other cities.
924. Nirvana tribute | May 12, 2008 at 1:25 pm
Once again the City Of Chicago tries to screw over it’s people. We already pay enough in taxes, parking tickets, city stickers, etc…and now this.
There is something very wrong with the politicians of this city.
They truly do not care for your music or the community.
We have emailed and called our alderman to vote against this stupid ordinance.
-J.Sam.Alex
Nevermind: Touring Nirvana Tribute
http://www.myspace.com/nevermindnirvanatribute
925. Jake Skiba | May 12, 2008 at 1:26 pm
This is absolutely disgusting. I can understand the minor problems caused by activities such as raves, and drug influenced events, but why punish all of Chicagoland for the actions of a select few? Furthermore, what is the need for licensing (other than governmental control and taxes) and double insurane? This will kill Chicago’s rich artistic culture. And what do we as a city get in return?
926. Tony Vibbert | May 12, 2008 at 1:26 pm
I don’t even live in Chicago and I think this ordinance is ridiculous. First Chicago, then the rest of the country…
927. Ricky Carmona | May 12, 2008 at 1:26 pm
I absolutely oppose this ordinance. I’m extremely angered that Ald. Schulter would be involved with an ordiinance such as this one. Seeing something like this happens further strengthens my belief that politicians are not looking out for our best interests.
928. Patrick Melvin | May 12, 2008 at 1:26 pm
If this ordinance is passed, Chicago will deteriorate it’s attempt at progressively expanding it’s Art/Culture status. This is SUCH a wonderful city for seeing Live Music…why would anyone want to destroy that?
I think I may throw up.
929. Bill McCormick | May 12, 2008 at 1:27 pm
This is so broad and so onerous that it will simply kill any chance any artist has of perfroming in our city. This needs to be killed before it ever even gets a chance of seeing the light of day.
930. Kevin V. Smith | May 12, 2008 at 1:27 pm
This sounds ridiculous. I hope it doesn’t happen.
931. Nellie | May 12, 2008 at 1:27 pm
Please do not pass this. As someone who has grown up around Chicago, and who has recently moved to Chicago specifically for Comedy, I find this terrifying. I am proud of Chicago for all of the opportunities it presents to artists, and it would be a shame to see that hindered by greed.
932. Brad Smith | May 12, 2008 at 1:27 pm
Please don’t pass these silly laws. The music scene in this town needs al the help it can get.
933. Robert Bouwman | May 12, 2008 at 1:28 pm
As a theater company that has been around for 16 years, it is with a sad heart that I read of this ordinance. When Corn Productions started out when there was a small burgeoning theater scene and we banded together and put up shows and were successful because we worked hard and had talent and there was so much opportunity in this great city. Through companies like us and those that came before us, Chicago has become known all over as the go to place for storefront and new theater. Then the “theater raids” happened a few years ago and almost wiped out the companies with a small storefront space. Through the hard work of Marge Halpern and the League of Chicago Theaters, the city worked with the small theaters to make it possible to liscense them with out all the hurdles. Now it seems they want us out again. Can’t the city council understand that “taxing” the small companies, the capellaries of the theatrical community, they will in effect wipe them out and soon the whole body will suffer.
Those of us who run and work in the small companies work for nothing or next to nothing, we do it because we love theater and the community it brings together. Can the city council members say that? Putting up these hurdles for the city’s finacial gain is like stealing candy from a baby. It’s easy, you can do it , but the baby will suffer.
Please reconsider this ordinance.
Robert Bouwman
Artistic Director
Corn Productions
934. Megan Buckley | May 12, 2008 at 1:28 pm
I am opposed to the passing of this ordinance.
935. gregorio gomez | May 12, 2008 at 1:28 pm
Please add my name to your list…I have been running the “WEEDS” poetry venue for a long time…and I remember when the city also tried to make small venues apply for a PPA (Public Place of Amusement) license…we even called for a meeting at the original “Hot House” in Wicker Park and were able to stop that process…this seems like the same attempt to either regulate or totally end the small venue art scene whether its poetry, theater, music etc; which has made this city so eclectic in its attempt be world renown…
936. Lisa | May 12, 2008 at 1:28 pm
I am absolutely against this bill being passed!!!!
937. Andrew DeWitt | May 12, 2008 at 1:28 pm
We must not allow this to happen. Chicago thrives on young hip and new talent, yet this would effectively destroy it and turn the city into something lame and devoid of art and character. Why not just make all restaunts Bar Louies?
938. Paul Taneja | May 12, 2008 at 1:28 pm
Just the thought of this is terrible. Chicago is such a wonderful city, and one of the reasons is because of its diversity and its support of independent artists. This would be like destroying an entire culture. Please do NOT pass this ordinance.
939. ryan duffy | May 12, 2008 at 1:29 pm
ridiculous. don’t allow this to happen!
940. Kristen Studard | May 12, 2008 at 1:29 pm
Stop it.
941. Robin Kurzer | May 12, 2008 at 1:29 pm
Add my name. Terrible.
942. Geneva Conway | May 12, 2008 at 1:29 pm
For a city that claims to be the epicenter of musical culture that would be a low blow to all the musicians out there trying to to keep the music alive
943. Ruben Trejo | May 12, 2008 at 1:30 pm
I think the ordinance is absolutely ridiculous. It is going to devalue the music and art scene in Chicago and is a shameless way to make more money for the city.
944. Dan | May 12, 2008 at 1:30 pm
This is so wrong and crazy I can’t believe the city is wasting time even thinking about this. Weather its music, arts, poetry people need it, to get away from all the BS they deal with in everyday life. We need this in Chicago and I do believe Chicago needs this in Chicago.
945. Julianna Tassone | May 12, 2008 at 1:30 pm
I oppose this ordinance as it seems to put a dollar sign on first amendment rights and creative expression. You can’t express yourself unless you pay the price first.
946. Arvo Zylo | May 12, 2008 at 1:30 pm
I’ll be outta here in two shakes of a lamb’s tail if they pass this.
947. Kerry | May 12, 2008 at 1:30 pm
So basically we are all movie to LA, NY, and Miami……. thanks Daley
948. Yancy Blaylock | May 12, 2008 at 1:30 pm
Independent promoters & performers make little to no money to begin with. Could we please not legislate them out of business entirely? It’s hard to imagine why a would-be world class city that’s trying to attract the Olympics would want to snuff out culture.
949. Michelle Graves | May 12, 2008 at 1:30 pm
I am an independent artist as well as on the board for a not-for-profit roller derby team (The Chicago Outfit).
These are just two examples of motivated activities that will disappear if this ordinance is passed.
This is the most unintelligent way to control promotion. It is ridiculously pointless and will monopolize corporate advertising.
This is not what Chicago is all about!!
950. Samantha Spencer | May 12, 2008 at 1:30 pm
Chicago needs to protect it’s arts and music scene. It’s why people love this city.
951. matt lang | May 12, 2008 at 1:31 pm
This feels like we are going back to the 1300’s where if we had certain intervals in our music (minor 4th) the composer would be hung because the “King” didn’t like the sound. Or when if you had an idea, if people thought it was weird, you were stoned to death. Its like death to creativity. It almost sounds Communist. Since when in America do we have to hide our creativity? Doing art, of any kind, has never been about making money, thus the phrase “starving artist.” Chicago is a town where it is very accessible to do art of ANY kind. Thats why i moved here, not because the city is pretty or clean or has a great recycling program. Maybe we should elect a new mayor. Ever give that a thought?
952. Michael del Rosario | May 12, 2008 at 1:31 pm
This city breeds so many good artists mainly because of its many venues and active music scene. There are many independent artists that are able to get exposure here. This ordinance will only make it impossible for these artists to grow.
953. Nirvana tribute | May 12, 2008 at 1:32 pm
Brett,
Can you blame them for leaving Chicago?
Bands actually get PAID better and DO ALOT BETTER when they do leave to other cities. Chicago is just becoming too expensive for musician’s to live in and now this oridinance might be the final nail to it all.
Hope you understand why this affects so many musicians who make their living off of music and playing in Chicago.
-Nevermind
954. barry bennett | May 12, 2008 at 1:32 pm
is this how the city council wants to celebrate chicago as a world class city? destroy the very fabric of the city’s culture and make way for kickbacks from cooperate interests?!! i suppose i need to get ready to move the family to Des Moines; since if this ordinance passes i’ll be out of a job as an independent artist. chicago will be the cultural equal to Des Moines if this passes, anyway… might as well beat the rush.
or FIGHT FOR OUR CITY!!!!!
955. ChicagoMusicPromotions | May 12, 2008 at 1:32 pm
Hello i have been around the city of chicago for a few years now and i have 2 music related websites here locally that promote independent artists, djays, labels & promoters i was very livid to hear this new law they want to pass since the chicago music scene already sucks in aspects to begin with and this would only put a knife into it more.
I know i am going to be their so Much Respect!!
Respectfully
Matthew Nalett
New Music Promote
admin@newmusicpromote.com
http://www.newmusicpromote.com
Chicago Music Promotions
admin@chicagomusicpromotions.com
http://www.chicagomusicpromotions.com
956. Shannon | May 12, 2008 at 1:33 pm
No! No! The scene is already slowly dying we can’t just give it to them! No! No! I love Chicago please don’t make me move!
957. Henry Everett | May 12, 2008 at 1:33 pm
This smells to be very reminiscent of the ordinances that prevented the movie industry from wanting to shoot in Chicago for so long; unless they wanted to pay unrealistic fees of course. Even movies that were supposedly “in Chicago” were often shot in other cities due to exorbitant ordinances like this. If this ordinance is allowed to pass, you’ll see the same disappearance of musicians from the city. You’d think that they city council would learn its lesson about sticking it to the little man, but apparently not. They are too busy giving high paying jobs to their unqualified relatives & descendants to care.
958. Bob | May 12, 2008 at 1:33 pm
Say No to Event Promoters Ordinace!!!! It’s a terrible idea
959. Chrissy Martens | May 12, 2008 at 1:33 pm
This ordinance will put a giant dent not only on the cultural scene in Chicago but will also put a dent in the economy which I’m sure some people are failing to realize. If shows in the city are put to a stop, less suburbs kids will be coming to the city on a regular basis. Therefore they will not be spending money on public transportation, parking, food services, and other things that the city of Chicago depends on to keep its income up. Chicago bands pride themselves on being from the city and without having the chance to play and be promoted people from other places that are drawn to these bands will no longer come. A lot of teenagers or early college students majoring in music business or even just with a passion for bands who form street teams and like to pass out fliers for the band will be left without an avenue to help out their bands. Hurting such a vital part of the Chicago culture is not wise – it hurts Chicago in so many ways – its bands, its nightlife, its tourism, its economy, and overall its culture. This ordinance should not be passed.
960. Jennifer McCue | May 12, 2008 at 1:33 pm
Do not stifle the artist!
961. Imran Shahbaz | May 12, 2008 at 1:34 pm
As a person who works in the Audio/ Visual Production industry, many of our clients are people who produce music and cultural events. Our company delivers and installs staging, lighting and sound so that these events can take place. The proposed promoter ordinance will affect the already-low revenues we are facing in todays economy, as a result of “promoters” not being able to afford to hire us.
The underground/illegitimate “promoters” will continue to operate while people who put together decent cultural events are being penalized.
962. Patti McKenny | May 12, 2008 at 1:34 pm
Do NOT let this travesty happen. Disastrous for independent artists.
963. Simon Buckley | May 12, 2008 at 1:34 pm
This ordinance is ridiculous, and quite frankly is making me ill as I type. I am so bored by mainstream music, and live to find great new music in the smaller venues of Chicago. Please, please do not do this Chicago. What are you thinking? There is such an artistic driving force in this city, do not let that go away.
Simon Buckley
964. Carol Ann King | May 12, 2008 at 1:34 pm
I can’t believe this. It is downright insane. If this is passed I will never step foot in a Chicago venue again. I would rather fly to New York than support this gangland style ownership.
965. Sandra Trevino | May 12, 2008 at 1:35 pm
Yes, we need reform and rules but there is a way to go about doing it without KILLING any events, any new promoters and especially any new ideas. Count my signature as a protest.
966. Chris Reigle | May 12, 2008 at 1:35 pm
Thats horrible.
967. Steven Hashimoto | May 12, 2008 at 1:35 pm
Add my name please!
968. Alexander Bassett | May 12, 2008 at 1:35 pm
As toronto based electro group MSTRKRFT said at their last performance here in chi…. The Jews have Isreal, The Muslims have Mecca…. Dance music has Chicago. This opinion rings true in every city I visit to DJ. Chicago is nationally known as a place where new ideas grow. Without the small venues and promoters working hard together this will no longer be true. Long live Chicago, dont stop the music!
969. Rob Clearfield | May 12, 2008 at 1:35 pm
This legislation will only hurt musicians and artists. This will strongly undermine local art, music and culture in big and small ways. I can speak from experience that anyone organizing local art/music events underground is NOT really making money at it anyway. Chicago has one of the best music scenes in the United States for almost every kind of music and this would hurt it in every way.
970. Drew Krag | May 12, 2008 at 1:36 pm
This is a violation of our basic freedom. We have a mecca of artists in this city, if this is passed, it will be an open palm bitch slap to the whole artistic community. Art is the one freedom we have left, if we loose that, we have absolutely nothing.
971. John Brewster | May 12, 2008 at 1:36 pm
It is ridiculous that such an ordinance is even being considered, let alone being taken to vote. This would devastate storefront theaters and small music venues in the city. Put my name on the list as strongly opposing this ordinance.
972. Rachal Young | May 12, 2008 at 1:36 pm
time to get rid of daley!!!!! stupid jerk trying to get rid of our culture! if only the thought about how much revenue comes into the city because of small venue shows! this would just discourage that!
973. ChicagoMusicPromotions | May 12, 2008 at 1:37 pm
I know i will be there I think this new law is retarted and well i have been promoting artists and djays on my music sites in chicago for years that would just hurt them even more. The chicago music scene already sucks why are they trying to put a bigger knife into it.
Much Respect
Chicago Music Promotions
http://www.chicagomusicpromotions.com
admin@chicagomusicpromotions.com
974. Garrett | May 12, 2008 at 1:37 pm
This is a terrible idea.
975. Jennifer Choi | May 12, 2008 at 1:37 pm
Please do not pass the ordinance!
976. Matt Drufke | May 12, 2008 at 1:38 pm
As a comedian, I understand what a problem this could be for the Chicago comedy scene as well.
977. James Williams | May 12, 2008 at 1:38 pm
this is bull…Chicago is a major entertainment market and it needs to stay that way to keep with the rich entertainment history of this city (Bill Murray, Bernie Mac, Tina Fey, Lupe Fiasco etc).
978. Jen Hammond | May 12, 2008 at 1:39 pm
I am completely against this! Don’t pass ordinances that could restrict artists in Chicago. We need more of them than we have now – not less!
979. Kevin L. Ourd | May 12, 2008 at 1:39 pm
Dear City Council of Chicago.
Don’t do it. There’s no reason to do it. Yes, I know the big picture, and I know all of the gears that are turning behind that little curtain of yours. What you are about to do will change things forever. We will not sit idly by and wait for you to take away the rest of our freedom. We might be lazy, and we might not know everything that happens. But there will be a time when a line has been crossed, and believe me, this is leap towards that line.
By this point, you might not have anything that you can do about it, and you might be having regrets. If you pass the ordinance, then there will be thousands of disgruntled civilians, whose mere discontent grows in to something beyond your control, beyond our control. But, if you keep the ordinance from going through, there will be at least a small part to keep us occupied as those gears of yours keep turning.
As an audio engineer, I would be feeling this blow as much as anyone else. Please consider my Words.
Kevin L. Ourd
980. ChicagoMusicPromotions | May 12, 2008 at 1:40 pm
This law is not just going to effect the music scene but for anyone who does any live venues or events. promoter is a very broad term of language it can be used to promote events, shows, showcases, comedy clubs, music venues, bars, festivals, there is so many things this law could mess up its sick.
981. Matthew Genthe | May 12, 2008 at 1:40 pm
Add my name to petition. This will end end up costing the city money in lost tax revenue from all of the venues it will shut down.
982. Andrew Jenkins | May 12, 2008 at 1:41 pm
This is an incredibly dumb ordinance. It will only serve to drive the life out of this city. I know I won’t be proud to live here anymore.
983. Chicago Music | May 12, 2008 at 1:41 pm
You can Count me in i am not sure if my other posts showed up but you will see Chicago Music Promotions showing support for yall.
matt
984. Rachel Wolfson | May 12, 2008 at 1:41 pm
Please don’t let this pass. we need to keep music alive!
985. Kevin Wills | May 12, 2008 at 1:41 pm
please do not do this!!!
986. Edd Fairman | May 12, 2008 at 1:42 pm
In these slow economic times, some performances are just surviving. Adding this ridiculous ordinance on top of it will surely close some performances. The big papers in the city have stopped printing reviews of small shows, setting them back and now this. So long off loop theater.
987. Joshua Allard | May 12, 2008 at 1:42 pm
In a city were finding employment for any kind of self-sufficiency or further experience is already taken over by affirmative action, or illegal aliens, or die-hard tenured status political whores, this would make my continued work as a costume designer exceptionally more difficult. If the city wants to make/save money and in turn give the police force something to actively focus on, how about taxing/reducing funds and creating better patron behavior/traffic operations at the money-making sports and Equity organizations that dominate the city, ya know, or actually auditing the operations of the already corrupt state offices in Chicago. Making smaller theaters and music venues pay for perhaps hasty or “bad” decisions made by the City of Chicago seems like a little like a bully on a playground. Washington, D.C. wouldn’t do that to it’s theatre scene, so why the heck would you?
988. ERIK WHITE | May 12, 2008 at 1:42 pm
This legislation is ridiculous. Such high licensing fees prohibit any promotions from smaller venues, artists, and promotions companies, and resultantly prohibit any growth and development of local music and arts. The only people with enough money to pay these fees are larger touring, event, and record companies.
989. Jennifer Gwilliam | May 12, 2008 at 1:42 pm
Unfortunatley, fast-track legislation often carries with it unseen consequences. I am against the passing of this ordinance, as the ramifications on the vital music and theatre scene in Chicago have not been fully vetted. The safety of patrons is an imperative concern, but a “quick fix” “blanket” solution that destroys the Chicago cultural scene is certainly not the answer. In your haste to solve one problem, don’t create several more with lasting impacts on quality of life in the City at large…
990. Jose Calvo | May 12, 2008 at 1:42 pm
you have my support.. I oppose this ordinance.
991. Brummer | May 12, 2008 at 1:43 pm
I urge the City of Chicago’s City Council not to pass this destructive measure.
992. Kurt Raine | May 12, 2008 at 1:43 pm
This is ridiculious!!
993. Jay Spaulding | May 12, 2008 at 1:43 pm
I’m insulted that this proposal even exists, this is the city where modern comedy came from do to grass roots shows and artistic freedom. For shame….
994. Thomas Ramos | May 12, 2008 at 1:43 pm
This is completely unacceptable. Chicago is known for its music scene. Changing that would be bad for all parties involved.
995. Gemma Petrie | May 12, 2008 at 1:43 pm
Please do not pass this ordinance. I cannot believe this is even up for consideration.
Gemma Petrie
35th Ward
996. Bryan Balli | May 12, 2008 at 1:44 pm
As a self promoting artist operating in Chicago, the only thing I have is my ability to network among niche groups and perform at any and all small-mid size venues (as I develop my sound, character, abilities and retain an amount of self-respect).
Please do not take that ability away from me or anyone else who is not so financially blessed, or inclined to WANT to become a mainstream promoter / musician. Chicago will lose much of its originality, and blur into what is already becoming a commercial scene and music community, with no uniqueness on to its slef or geographical location.
997. Hope Schiele | May 12, 2008 at 1:44 pm
This would absolutely destroy Chicago’s independent art and music community, no doubt about it. It would be an absolute nightmare should it pass. We can’t let it happen.
998. Lucid Ground Street Team | May 12, 2008 at 1:44 pm
This cant happen!!
999. Chicago Music | May 12, 2008 at 1:44 pm
The biggest problem i see with this law is the following.
1. drive talent to the suburbs.
2. make the music scene here in chicago worse then it is
3. will not allow new talent to perform in the city limits
4. will not allow (unknown) promoters to help bring talent.
5. will impact the way people view chicago when it come to anything venue related not just music but anything live.
I have been doing website promotions for a few years now i have 2 music websites and mostly i deal with independent artists and nightclub djays. As for breaking these talent into the chicago market its been difficult since chicago has a broad taste of music and what they like, as for Creating this law its going to put a knife just further into the music scene and make chicago a weak place for musicians.
1000. Yuli | May 12, 2008 at 1:44 pm
Please do not pass the ordinance! It will be a tragedy for many people!
1001. Ed Ballinger | May 12, 2008 at 1:44 pm
I STRONGLY oppose this ordinance! This will RUIN the much loved Chicago music scene.
1002. Brendan Scanlon | May 12, 2008 at 1:45 pm
I find it terribly ironic that while on one hand Chicago claims that it is a cultural city that embraces and fosters new and different ideas, there always seem to be things like this ordinance being proposed that would do exactly the opposite. Lets not forget that what is considered mainstream today was the underground of yesteryear. Just for example have you ever heard of these little things called Jazz, Blues, or Hip-Hop?
There is little doubt in my mind that the insurance requirements, and licensing fees in this proposed ordinance would be the [legal] end to many Venues and Galleries. Which, in turn, would effectively stifle the proliferation of new and interesting ideas in all the arts.
1003. Michael Garcia | May 12, 2008 at 1:45 pm
We have a right to public assembly as well. I ask, how does the City intend to enforce this? Perhaps thug patrols in jackboots will repel down from helicopters and kick in the window at Cal’s or Mutiny and give any “unilcensed” “event-promotors” a citation? Right. Well, those man-hours are gonna cost the city, hence the license fee. So wait, maybe the police are going to do it? Yeah, that’s it- while there might be real criminals doing real crime somewhere else… This is an ordinance I intend to defy, should it be passed. It’s too much.
1004. Tammi | May 12, 2008 at 1:45 pm
Chicago is the heart of America when it comes to the music industry. Some one commented that the scene was slowly dying and we have to stop it. They are wrong, the scene has been slowly getting stronger and stronger. The only thing that can stop it is a crazy city law. But if you stop music in Chicago, you might as well stop eating in Chicago too. Other then plays, parks, and the sightsm, no tourist will have a reason to come back. I go to Chicago about twice a week. Where I pay to go to a concert, and I pay for traveling. Without the strong music scene that they have right now. I would never step foot into illinois. The taxes are high, and the food is taxed. But it’s worth it for a good concert. And not just one good concert, I would pay for every good concert.
1005. Robert Cruz | May 12, 2008 at 1:46 pm
This is an extremely, extremely ill-conceived ordinance. Who is this supposed to benefit? Performers and audiences are not the only people who should be concerned about this proposed ordinance. It certainly sounds as if the number of performance events is going to drop drastically if this thing goes thru — and if the number of events drops, this is also going to hurt anyone who owns or works at a restaurant, cafe, coffeeshop, tavern, etc. that caters to event-goers. Maybe we should be making the economic argument, as Mayor Daley does not seem to care about how this ordinance would impoverish our city’s creative scene. (And let’s all be real about this — the City Council never does anything unless the mayor wants it to happen.)
1006. Caleb D. Manci | May 12, 2008 at 1:46 pm
This can’t possibly be allowed. Theatre was born into this town in the grassroots fashion. We might as well be going back to being a town that has nothing but corporate slaughterhouses.
1007. Sharko B. | May 12, 2008 at 1:46 pm
You have may support and I’ve contacted my theater compatriots.
1008. Chris McNamara | May 12, 2008 at 1:47 pm
I oppose this ordinance.
1009. Christopher Jacobs (50th Ward | May 12, 2008 at 1:47 pm
This legislation will no only hurt the artists and musicians, but it will also hurt this City as well. What’s appealing about Chicago to the rest of the world, is it’s cultural and artistic diversity. As a theatre artist its the amount of small venues and theatre groups that brought me here. It’s rediculous. Between the taxes and these rediculous ordinances…it’s driving people out of this city.
1010. Nick Barnes | May 12, 2008 at 1:47 pm
Vote no.
1011. JP | May 12, 2008 at 1:48 pm
Count me in. This ordinance is ridiculous!
Jim
1012. Chicago Music | May 12, 2008 at 1:48 pm
Look what happend to house music it will NEVER DIE in chicago and well AS LONG As everyone here comes together The Music Scene will not DIE Either..
KEEP Music Alive!
http://www.newmusicpromote.com/DJ_Andre_Hatchett
1013. Steve Clay | May 12, 2008 at 1:48 pm
The music scene of Chicago wouldn’t be what it is today without the commitment of kids in basements and DIY shows. To cut that out at this time, when the scene is thriving so much and anyone can find a show in a backyard, a church, a basement, or a loft, would only serve to cripple the entire midwestern music scene, as Chicago is somewhat of an ultimate goal for bands, and become a great jumping point for bands.
If dangerous promoters are really a concern, then they should be addressed in a more focused and individual way.
1014. Jessica Bellian | May 12, 2008 at 1:48 pm
This ordinance is ridiculous and offensive, and needs to be stopped.
1015. Jason Guthartz | May 12, 2008 at 1:48 pm
Stop the insanity!!!
1016. Barbara Eno | May 12, 2008 at 1:49 pm
This city is based on creative arts if they pass this ordinance it would be soo disapointing! I wouldn’t even want to live in chicago anymore..it will not be my home if they pass this ordinance!!!
1017. JEAN MARC LAVOIE | May 12, 2008 at 1:49 pm
This seems overzealous, some good ideas but also some bad ideas. I disapprove of it the way its been proposed.
- Jean Marc Lavoie
1018. R Zake | May 12, 2008 at 1:49 pm
Although I rarely get out due to illness, if it wasn’t for some of the great musicians who have helped filmmakers get their films on their feet, the City has become one Yuppie Mosh Pit to ensure taxes, graft and Daley’s grandchildren a good future. Thanks Lip Service Productions for letting me know. I always take time out to support a good cause.
Z
1019. Andy Westley | May 12, 2008 at 1:49 pm
This seems to be a situation where a law has been designed to do one thing and will actually do something very different.
If your concern is safety – pass a law that makes people safer.
Not a law that severerly limits the choices that the citizens of Chicago have to make their own choices concerning live performances. This law, as I understand it, WILL NOT make people safer. It WILL serve to protect only the bank accounts of the owners of large venues and the promoters that book events there.
1020. Chad Kovac | May 12, 2008 at 1:49 pm
What stuffed shirt, probably with no interest in music, thought up this idea?!?!?!? They may think it will generate revenues, but I feel it will ultimately kill the Chicago music scene. Lots of people may not want to pay the ridiculous Ticketmaster prices to see a concert. Do not penalize them by taking away the ability to see local musicians. If these musicians want to play, they should make sure that the GUARANTEED price for the band will be enough to cover the fees that this stupid ordinance would create. Let the bar owners be the ones to take the loss. Maybe they will retaliate and the movement will have a bigger voice? What ever may happen, this is another way that the government is trying to starve the public of money because they are not doing a good enough job of managing their funds. STAND UP AND LET YOUR VOICE BE HEARD CHICAGO!!!!
1021. Keith Ecker | May 12, 2008 at 1:50 pm
You have my support, and I have additionally voiced my disapproval to my alderman.
1022. Chicago Music | May 12, 2008 at 1:50 pm
Look what happend to the House Music in chicago, chicago is famous for blues and house music but they are both still around and still alive As long as everyone comes together in unity the music scene in chicago will never DIE and as long as we all come together to fight this bill they wont have any leverage to work with and they will have to disreguard this bill.
1023. Bruce Ingram | May 12, 2008 at 1:50 pm
I strongly protest this proposal. The rich cultural scene in Chicago is one of its greatest drawing cards and this would effectively snuff it out. Steppenwolf Theater never would have been able to set up shop in a church basement with a policy like this in place.
1024. Brian Nelke | May 12, 2008 at 1:50 pm
this is rediculous. why would a city want to get rid of something that they should be proud of? Many great entertainers have came out of chicago. Why would you want to stop the creative genius?
1025. Julie Nelson | May 12, 2008 at 1:51 pm
I do not support this ordinance and will also contact my alderman directly.
1026. mark miller architect | May 12, 2008 at 1:51 pm
This ordinance is trying to stop future horrific episodes from occurring like at the E2 club. But this ordinance does not address poor exiting or security and staff of a club from having training to assist visitors in a safe exit if such an event should occur again. This is misguided. The ordinance should really focus on the architectural design of exiting strategies, stairwell widths, number of exits, and training of crowd control staff. Please either revise the language of the ordinance or do not pass the current incarnation of this ordinance
1027. M Melfi | May 12, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Please stop this nonsense! We want to continue to live in a vibrant city with as much cultural diversity as possible. Please don’t punish the “little guys”.
1028. Jay | May 12, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Keep Chicago music alive!
1029. Kelley Mandolini | May 12, 2008 at 1:52 pm
I have lived in the Chicago suburbs my entire life and value the Chicago music scene as a best friend with whom I grew up and relied upon through hard times. As a teenager, attending local music concerts put on at venues such as the Metro and the House of Blues gave me pleasure that cannot be summed up in a mere paragraph protesting such a ridiculous ordinance. The music scene here in Chicago is one of friends, family, and amazing musicianship. To have such a blossoming local music scene stamped out in favor of large theatrical productions, or just for the city to make another dime off of, is devastating. Just remember everyone, if Chicago’s music scene wasn’t worth anything, this ordinance would not be up for approval. The councilmen must be made to understand that the cash cow they hope to suck money off of with wither away and die if this ordinance is passed. Keep the local scene alive and well for generations to come!!!!
1030. Kevin Quail | May 12, 2008 at 1:52 pm
Yeah, local artists and small clubowners already make SO much money that the price of inept and corrupt government should be paid by them. This is great way to kill off live music in Chicago. What else can anyone expect from the sub-moronic thieving idiots who run the city, county, state and federal governments? I guess all the trombonists in town won’t be buying those condos in Trump Tower after all.
1031. Jody | May 12, 2008 at 1:52 pm
This makes me fear for not only the local artists, but also the non profit organizations. This ordinance is not only unnecessary but also exploitative.
1032. Ben Fasman | May 12, 2008 at 1:53 pm
This is another version of the city’s attempts to scrape together whatever money it can from wherever it can. The Daleys (both father and son) have been strong-arming the private sector in whatever ways they see fit for decades. The problem is that this bill will hurt so much more than it will help. It will put jobs and business in harm’s way (not just venues, but lots of businesses that survive on the economic systems that these venues produce) and it will cripple whatever cultural capital this city is clinging to. The whole idea is ludicrous, and I can’t voice my opposition to it loudly enough. I’ve been living here for almost 5 ears and have never felt as at home here as I have in other cities. Maybe brainless the fact that brainless ordinances like this have any legs at all is one of the reasons why.
1033. Douglas Mitchell | May 12, 2008 at 1:53 pm
These licensing rules are bad policy, and short-sighted. The image of Chicago in the rest of the world bubbles over with independent music venues and small theater productions, showcasing talent in ways that give new meaning to the term “authentic.” The licensing requirements proposed would scuttle this talent intiative and reduce local creativity to a dull formula. Bad for tourism, bad for local life, bad for both producers and consumers of culture in our great city.
Keep the spirit of Chicago cultural entrepreneurism alive!
1034. Victor Marinier | May 12, 2008 at 1:54 pm
This can not be allowed, it will ruin the Chicago arts scene. I know that I for one will be moving as soon as possible if this passes.
1035. osvaldo Luna | May 12, 2008 at 1:54 pm
This is ridiculous, add me to the list.
Don’t let music die.
1036. P Lawless | May 12, 2008 at 1:54 pm
I vote No!
This is a ridiculous notion for Motion!
I guess the additional city inspectors hired to force Slum lords to comply with safety codes, that Stated “Mission Complete” need somthing else to do.
Isn’t ghost payrolling still alive and well in Chicago?
Leave live music alone!
1037. James Fritz | May 12, 2008 at 1:54 pm
Unnecessary. Stop it. You’re killing everything interesting in this city with laws that help no one. And this is a big one.
1038. Tim Gant | May 12, 2008 at 1:54 pm
Please lets not continue to shoot ourselves in the foot with pulling the heart and soul out of the Chicago music scene or whats left of it. We have lost,and sre losing so much music out of our schools and goverment funded programs lets not add a mortal blow to the club scene that we have left.
1039. Brian Daley | May 12, 2008 at 1:55 pm
I’m an active musician in and around Chicago and this ordinance would cripple my chosen form of expression. The last time I checked, expressing one’s self was not, yet, illegal in the United States.
1040. Meredith Armbruster | May 12, 2008 at 1:55 pm
add my name to the list!
1041. Stephanie Cunningham | May 12, 2008 at 1:55 pm
Doesn’t the city have anything better to do?
1042. Heather Crosby | May 12, 2008 at 1:55 pm
This is unacceptable. Please add my name to the list.
No! No! No!
1043. Alex B. | May 12, 2008 at 1:55 pm
This ordinance is the complete antithesis of the spirit of music, and does not serve well the feel of this city, which has for so long supported and cultivated a musical spirit. Other cities are keeping stride with Chicago in the music world, and this will do nothing to help us keep to the forefront.
1044. Emma Roetzer | May 12, 2008 at 1:55 pm
No way! Saying that I disapprove is an understatement! Chicago won’t be “home” to me if this ordinance is passed.
1045. elaine rodey | May 12, 2008 at 1:55 pm
Please don’t pass the ordinance. A rich and varied musical culture is essential to the innovative Chicago experience. We must refuse to be commodified and commercialized. This would also hurt tourism and put a big stain on the face of the supposedly forward-thinking/green mayor……
1046. Joshua Lyerla | May 12, 2008 at 1:56 pm
To pass thiss bill would be taking away part of Chicagos life and bloodline. People see Chicago as a mileston in American diversity, and to limit promoters is to take away a big part of this culture. Young bands cant always aford to hire big name promoters and young promoters cant afford to get this insurance no yet, thats what starting young does, get a few shows under your belt start a name for yourself. Of all people these politicians should understand, they too were young and begining thier careers as politicians they had to make a name for them selves. Passing this ordinance would kill so many dreams and take away a lifestyle, these politicians should focus more on the drug trafficing and crime rates not young promoters and musicians. I vote no to this ordinance.
1047. bk ellison | May 12, 2008 at 1:56 pm
I strongly object to the proposal of this ordinance and feel that it should not be passed.
1048. Tyler J. Patocka | May 12, 2008 at 1:56 pm
if you’re looking to strangle that repuation chicago has for a vibrant arts scene, well, you’d be hard-pressed to do a better job than this.
1049. Tony Noice | May 12, 2008 at 1:56 pm
I understand the desire to protect the public from events put on by unscrupulous promoters who could cause serious injuries. But this ordinance will probable eliminate a hundred serious small arts venues for every problematic one. Please rewrite the ordinance so that it precisely targets only the bad guys.
Tony Noice, PhD
Professor of Theatre
1050. Brandon | May 12, 2008 at 1:57 pm
I oppose this ordinance. It’s terrible.
1051. Felicia Holman | May 12, 2008 at 1:57 pm
Another blatant display of graft by the City of Chicago!
Is this proposed law supposed to bolster the City’s chances for getting the Olympics or something???
Utter Bullshit!!!!
1052. tammy | May 12, 2008 at 1:57 pm
I moved all they way to Chicago from Texas for the theatre and improv! I strongly oppose this ordinance -if all we’re left with is big corporate theatres what’s the reason to stay in chicago?
1053. Ken Baker | May 12, 2008 at 1:57 pm
Please do not pass this ordinance!
1054. Rey Reyes | May 12, 2008 at 1:57 pm
The concerned I have is that this would stifle artistic expression in the city would impose n economic hardship for many small promoters of the arts. Artists would lose opprtunities to be seen and heard, or to self-promote, and ultimately choking our great music and entertainment environment. There are some legitimate safety issues that are being addressed by the ordinance, but the language seems very broad, and I urge the council to reject this ordinance and go back to the drawing board to come up with a more effective way to deal with the issue.
1055. Stop Smiling Magazine » City of Chicago to Regulate Live Music / A Petition Worth Signing | May 12, 2008 at 1:58 pm
[...] venues in the city. Follow Jim DeRogatis’ coverage of this bill here, and sign the petition here. This proposal, truly, borders on insanity. Not only will it effectively rub out dozens and dozens [...]
1056. amber lissy | May 12, 2008 at 1:59 pm
Chicago is my hometown and I would not have managed to get where I am today without the music scene there. When I was under the age of 21, going to shows at the small venues was one of the few things I really looked forward to in the city. Shows kept me out of trouble and meeting new people all while having a good time. I would hate to see the younger generations not get the experience I did by some ridiculous ordinance. I now reside in St. Pete, FL and I love the music scene here, but it is nothing compared to what goes down in Chi-town!
1057. Julie Herwitt | May 12, 2008 at 1:59 pm
One of the things that makes Chicago great is it’s diverse music community and the fact that smaller bands and groups can perform. It would really be a shame if the City Council squashed music artists with this expensive legislation meant to deal with a “bad” club owner.
1058. Joanne Bethishou | May 12, 2008 at 1:59 pm
I really don’t see who this would be benefitting…
1059. Kelly Reaves | May 12, 2008 at 1:59 pm
This is absolutley ridiculous. If this ordinance is passed I will, without a doubt, move to LA and take everyone I can with me.
1060. Doug Hollet | May 12, 2008 at 1:59 pm
This cant happen!
1061. Salvatore Dellaria | May 12, 2008 at 1:59 pm
City Council! Please collaborate with the community to draft a version of this ordinance that does not negatively impact Chicago’s cultural integrity! Don’t throw the baby out with the bath-water!
1062. Michael Narvaez | May 12, 2008 at 1:59 pm
The chairman of the committee that OK’d this proposal and sent it on to the city council is 47th Ward Ald. Gene Schulter.
Here’s his contact info:
47th Ward Office
4237 N. Lincoln Avenue
Chicago, IL 60618
773-348-8400
773-348-8480 (fax),
Email: ward47@cityofchicago.org
Committee on License and Consumer Protection
The Committee on License and Consumer Protection has jurisdiction over the licensing of persons, property, businesses and occupations and all matters relating to consumer protection, products liability, consumer fraud and all matters relating to the Department of Consumer Services.
Chairman: Eugene C. Schulter
Vice-Chairmen: Isaac Carothers
Members: Fioretti, Lyle, Cardenas, Olivo, Cochran, Zalewski, Reboyras, Banks, Doherty, Tunney, Shiller, M. Smith
1063. Jim | May 12, 2008 at 1:59 pm
Why kill culture for money? Find somewhere else to steal money from artists and those that thoroughly enjoy the arts from an intelligent artistic light OTHER THAN what we are told to like from mainstream on Mtv and American Idol.
1064. Val Keller | May 12, 2008 at 2:00 pm
What good will this do anyone? It will hurt Chicago’s vibrant and eclectic music scene, something this city is known for.
1065. Brian Bell | May 12, 2008 at 2:00 pm
This is really ridiculous. Anyone with half a brain knows that Chicago’s cultural scene is what makes the city so vibrant. And the city leaders should be wise enough to recognize the incredible influx of revenue that the existence of these spaces supplies.
As a working artist in Chicago, the idea of even more city-imposed bureaucracy on organizations that are struggling as it is, appalls me. I hope that the alderman will see the light and recognize this for the sham that it is.
1066. Ben | May 12, 2008 at 2:00 pm
I knew we shouldn’t have let Clear Channel buy out Chicago.
1067. Susan Stamler | May 12, 2008 at 2:00 pm
As a suburbanite I cannot vote for Chicago politicians. Perhaps, however, I owe them a favor. If they pass this ordinance I suspect there will be more music, plays, etc in suburban venues and I will have to travel less (and spend less money in Chicago) to avail myself of those opportunities.
1068. jean and karla leroy | May 12, 2008 at 2:00 pm
my wife and I are both self employed musicians (with a new-born child). In addition to nailing the coffin shut on Amiricas nearly art-less culture, this ordinance would make my family’s existance nearly inpossible.
It is shocking that one could even concieve of such a rediculus plan- even more amazing is that is is actually being considered by those prople who are supposed to have the peoples’ best interest in mind.
very disapointed,
jean and karla leroy
1069. eak | May 12, 2008 at 2:00 pm
city council sure knows how to lead this town…right down the shitter.
1070. Karen | May 12, 2008 at 2:00 pm
This is so not good for Chicago.
1071. Morris O'Riordan | May 12, 2008 at 2:00 pm
Let your alderman know not to vote on this. The local clubs will not survive and the local musicians will go with it. Vote no on this ordinance
1072. Mae Seeun | May 12, 2008 at 2:00 pm
This would crush arts!
1073. Jane Hanna | May 12, 2008 at 2:00 pm
I will proudly join my voice to this opposition, both as a local musician and as the events promoter for the Chicago Reader.
1074. Chad Wise | May 12, 2008 at 2:00 pm
I am vehemently against this ordinance and the impact it will have on Chicago’s appeal as a diverse entertainment destination.
1075. Tom | May 12, 2008 at 2:01 pm
I do not understand how someone can be so blind to what has made Chicago one of the greatest cities in the world!
1076. Melissa T | May 12, 2008 at 2:01 pm
This ordinance is downright disgusting! What a brilliant idea: rob Chicago of its vibrant culture. Unbelievable.
1077. Arman Razavi | May 12, 2008 at 2:01 pm
I just did an interview on Chicago Public Radio. We are trying to get as many people as we can involved. If you read the petition, this ordinance is not just about club promoters, it affects block parties, sporting events, concerts (specially smaller places like Double Door & Metro) or any event that holds more than 100 people. The other part of the ordinance that is scary, basically puts the burden of proof on venues. Venues could loose their license completely or not be allowed to promote another event for up to 6 months if they work with promoters who are not licensed. All promoters have to put their license number on all ads, fliers, emails and such. Basically hanging a target on the back of the promoters. This is scary big brother stuff.
1078. Tom Murphy | May 12, 2008 at 2:01 pm
It’s not really the ordinance itself that is going to kill the music scene here in Chicago. It’s not even the ridiculous fees that the city wants to charge. It’s the liability insurance requirement.
What do you think an insurance company is going to charge for that $300,000 in coverage once they find out that it is required by law. And that’s if they will cover anyone at all once they find out that we are as liable for anything that may occur at a venue even though we do not have the liquor license, or hire the security or lock exit doors, or over serve patrons, etc.
Time to move this vibrant community to the suburbs. They would love to have what Chicago routinely not only takes for granted, but litlerally tries to kill.
Welcome to Chicago’s Olympics world….a vast entertainment wasteland.
This is such an inane load.
Tom Murphy
President
Big Creek Productions
1079. Justin Burt | May 12, 2008 at 2:01 pm
The problem with this ordinance is its broad construction. Essentially, it could apply to jam bands that play some dive with a crowd of 7 die hard fans. I fail to see the problem with the current set up. On its face, the ordinance is clearly discriminatory, and will certainly have a profound effect smaller venues and bands that come to this great city. If the city wants siphon more money out of already poor, starving indie kids, raise the tax on ticket sales…
1080. Chris DiDomenico | May 12, 2008 at 2:01 pm
I am involved in the Chicago scene. Booking bands and playing shows at numerous venues and theaters will never be the same!!!
This isn’t going to do anything but take away from revenue and make Chicago a more cut-throat scene than it already is. If this ordinance passes…. My love for Chicago will be completely CRUSHED!!!
Chris DiDomenico
Audiowall Records
Simplistic Urge
1081. Vicky Walters | May 12, 2008 at 2:02 pm
I can’t believe that they are trying to stifle the amazing culture that has grown in Chicago. I for one think this will definitely make Chicago a not very exciting place to be.
1082. Rachel C. | May 12, 2008 at 2:02 pm
I live clear across the country, but am appalled by such a proposal. If Chicago adopts these sorts of measures, what effect will it eventually have upon the rest of the nation as well? As someone who regularly attends theatre productions and numerous live shows with small bands (local or out-of-area), I would be devastated to find my own local forms of entertainment essentially destroyed. I can only imagine what residents of Chicago and the Chicago-area are thinking at such an outrageous possibility.
If you limit the small bodies of art – theatre, musicians, artists of all kinds – how will anyone ever have the freedom to grow and expand? There’s more to art than just the mainstream and it’s an insult to the arts to suggest otherwise.
1083. Abby | May 12, 2008 at 2:02 pm
As a proponent of Flosstradamus in the Midwest…this must be stopped.
1084. Brandon Fox | May 12, 2008 at 2:02 pm
For a city that claims to be an international city that wants to host the Olympic Games this will be a terrible set back for the arts and culture of this city. Once again this city is trying to squeze every penny out of us and our nightlife to waste on projects that don’t work. The reason why people want to live in the city is because there are so many things to do and see. Why turn this city ito a dying old metropolis. Stop taxing the youth!
1085. S. Dee | May 12, 2008 at 2:02 pm
This ordinance is unfair! The independent music scene is world-renowned in Chicago; it’s a magnet for artistic talent. It’s an industry driven by creativity and artistic expression. We should be able to put on a show in public, and to see concerts, without going broke. It’s not a big money-making business, so these fees and complicated licensing procedures will cripple the industry. As a result this city will not be as fun! People will leave! DO NOT PASS!
1086. Chris Jones | May 12, 2008 at 2:03 pm
I will throw rocks at those people! This is crazy! Nice job shitty council!
1087. stephanie | May 12, 2008 at 2:03 pm
NO ORDINANCE!! if the man were here i’d stick it to him myself. don’t u have enough of our money?
1088. Andrew Stamm | May 12, 2008 at 2:03 pm
A horrible idea, please don’t pass this ordinance
1089. Whitehouse | May 12, 2008 at 2:03 pm
Please add our name to the list!
Whitehouse
1090. Adam Krier | May 12, 2008 at 2:03 pm
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. That proposal is absurd. Spreading the word.
1091. R Melfi | May 12, 2008 at 2:03 pm
This is just plain stupid! No culture – no tourism!
1092. Michelle | May 12, 2008 at 2:03 pm
I moved to Chicago for the unique culture and to grow musically. Small venues have cultivated artists like myself. In today’s world, music is one of the only forms of expression that still enlightens people. These venues and artists are barely surviving on their music and you want to take this away?
1093. Chicago Music | May 12, 2008 at 2:04 pm
I just sent a global email to both my music sites to come here and sign the petition so that should help a bit as well.
1094. Mandy Walsh | May 12, 2008 at 2:04 pm
For the love, please do not pass this ordinance.
1095. Leanne Raney | May 12, 2008 at 2:04 pm
Please don’t take away the best aristic dynamic in the country. People move here for this specific reason–to make their small artistic dreams a reality. And by passing this law, you are crushing that dream.
Please don’t let one bad apple affect a whole tree of beautiful ripe ones.
1096. hugo trevino | May 12, 2008 at 2:04 pm
don’t stop the music. Stop greedy bureaucracy in local government.
1097. E. Fierro | May 12, 2008 at 2:04 pm
Chicago is a wonderful city and it is the unique culture that create its soul. In passing this, Chicago would loose its identity as a creative city.
1098. Steffanie Gertz | May 12, 2008 at 2:04 pm
dont do this!
add my name to the list.
1099. Erik | May 12, 2008 at 2:04 pm
the clubs are already safe
the clubs are already smoke free
but the the city government is
as dangerous as ever.
we have too many condos, too many starbucks, too many cars, too many taxes, fines, fees, stickers, blue bags, recent college grads, booze, beer, fancy wine, parking tickets, surchages, cigarettes, food, and expensive brand name clothing for the city to make its money from.
please leave the music alone, we musicians can barely afford to live here. and its about all that’s left besides the air we breath.
1100. TRACIE ENNES | May 12, 2008 at 2:04 pm
Artists have a hard enough time in the midwest. I don’t understand how further restrictions will help Chicago in any way. If anything, more publicity and respect need to be given to the local artists and venues!
I strongly oppose this ordinance, please do not let it pass.
Thank you,
Tracie Ennes
1101. Jamie Toal | May 12, 2008 at 2:04 pm
C’mon Chicago. We’re smarter than this.
1102. Pete | May 12, 2008 at 2:04 pm
We will have to go underground more and have shows in basements and warehouses. Make our own money.
1103. Molly Martin | May 12, 2008 at 2:05 pm
If this is passed it will put a HUGE damper on Chicago’s thriving music scene. I can’t see how this would be beneficial at all, and it needs to be stopped!!
1104. Liz Bowles | May 12, 2008 at 2:05 pm
Chicago is my favorite city in the world and the reason for that is the amazing amount and variety of culture, music, theatre, and all the great things that would suffer if this ordinance goes into effect. Think of all the local Chicago bands who have grown into major national acts. Some of my favorite bands have come from Chicago’s music scene. With something for everyone, Chicago offers a culture unlike any other. I beg you. Don’t destroy that!
1105. Dave Brown | May 12, 2008 at 2:05 pm
If passed, the city will lose its pulse, and many of its residents as well. Objections must be heard.
1106. Paul Thomas | May 12, 2008 at 2:05 pm
Hopefully this was proposed out of lack of foresight of who/what it would affect (which is scary). I say hopefully because otherwise it was proposed out of a distaste for Chicago rich small-scale scene.
Please don’t pass this.
1107. Jonny | May 12, 2008 at 2:05 pm
This really seems like the opposite of a good idea.
1108. Dennis Frymire | May 12, 2008 at 2:05 pm
Please shoot this ordinance down. Please.
1109. Colleen Egan | May 12, 2008 at 2:06 pm
Chicago is a vibrant arts, music and theatre city and this ordinance will suffocate the smaller venues, independent community and finally Chicago’s reputation as a stauch supporter of the arts. As a member of the Chicago Arts Community it’s bad enough that buyers need to pay 10.25% tax on art as well as anything else we need to buy and now this ordinance targets the arts community. Not only does it hurt the arts community but Chicago residents, tourism and our city’s reputation. Also, the 2016 Olympics may come to Chicago- do we really want this issue to hinder our chances as a City- because it will.
CD Egan
1110. Rose Vasallo | May 12, 2008 at 2:06 pm
absolutely ridiculous and pointless. i have nothing more to say then that.
1111. Emilia Chico | May 12, 2008 at 2:06 pm
I am in strong opposition of this ordinance. The mayor and city officials will continue to work in conjunction with corporate interests to eliminate anything and everything that is independent, cultural and progressive. The arts will suffer through all of this.
1112. Brian Robinson | May 12, 2008 at 2:06 pm
Let’s just continue to make all of America one homogenius product. Chicago is great because of the individuality of our neighborhoods. Don’t let that go by the way side. None of us want to see concerts in cookie cutter venues such as the Hard Rock.
1113. Miles Benjamin | May 12, 2008 at 2:06 pm
Simply ridiculous. The possible impact of a bill like this is scary and just wrong. Anyone who would actually agree with this has obviously never been involved with the arts of Chicago.
We can’t let this happen.
1114. Addie Hurst | May 12, 2008 at 2:06 pm
There is an inherent contradiction in the life and culture of the city of Chicago itself and this ordinance. Variety and versatility are in the heart of the city. Please do not take away our choice to support local musicians and promoters. It is wrong.
1115. Lindsay Wipert | May 12, 2008 at 2:06 pm
The Chicago scene is ideal because of it’s local flavor and it’s dedication to offering as many things to do-big and small-as possible. Please don’t do this, it’s sick and wrong.
1116. Aaron Rodgers | May 12, 2008 at 2:06 pm
Chicago cannot afford to pass this ordinance. If Chicago is remain the cultural center of the Mid West, it necessary that new music and events are encouraged, not mired in licenses and paperwork. People under 21 must have the ability to create their own music and culture. Also, first time promoters should be discouraged by a $1000 license. Everyone will suffer if the only music booked and promoted is done so by only a few promoters with deep pockets.
1117. eli kahn | May 12, 2008 at 2:07 pm
As a former Chicagoan and current South Bend, IN resident, it saddens me to hear about this ordinance. Chicago remains the prime source of live self-promoted entertainment in the midwest (surprise, surprise…bad cover bands in smokey bars in the Bend don’t quite do the trick). As a musician, I find it even more devistating because Chicago is home to some of my favorite bands who are starting to break the larger scene (and started out with self-promotion). Imagine if bands like Pelican and Russian Circles weren’t able to play when they were starting out because of these ordinances. Now, imagine how many other bands wouldn’t be able to be discovered because of their lack of representation; the bedlam of potential bands would be snuffed out. Don’t let it happen. Please.
1118. Michele | May 12, 2008 at 2:07 pm
Chicago, to me, is one of the most amazing places to go and hear new local music. To take that away from us is ridiculous.
1119. Gina Ferenzi | May 12, 2008 at 2:07 pm
add my name.
1120. Chicago Music | May 12, 2008 at 2:07 pm
Thanks to all the Chicago Music Promotions Artists, Djays And Promoters for coming to sign this petition and thanks to all New Music Promote Artists and Djs for coming as well see you on my site soon.
1121. Mike Sciortino | May 12, 2008 at 2:07 pm
You’ve got to be freakin kiddin me…. I love the city for it’s artistic beauty and it’s many musical venues. Whether it be the metro, the double door or the theater. A lot of people go there just to go and have a fun time, by shutting them down what are you hoping to achieve?
1122. will chambers | May 12, 2008 at 2:07 pm
please do not put this through. arts and music is what makes chicago the grand place it is. without these things we will have a very dull city.
1123. Tracie Tomlinson | May 12, 2008 at 2:08 pm
This is absolutely ridiculous. When you start a promotions company, if you’re doing it for profit, you must register your business as an LLC or a company, what have you. Whichever form of organization you choose. You’re therefore legitimizing your business through going through this process in the first place and paying those fees to do business up front. Am I retarded, or is that not license enough?
These “lawmakers” need to learn how the industry works. When a promoter contacts a venue for a show, a contract is made that the promoter will comply with all laws and within the restrictions of said venue. THE SHOW IS COVERED BY THE VENUE’S INSURANCE BY DEFAULT. It is absolutely unnecessary to make the promoter purchase insurance when the venue’s insurance is already in effect. If something happens on the venue’s premises during said promoter’s show, the venue’s insurance will have to cover it regardless, so it’s completely unnecessary.
Instead of picking on the entertainment industry, maybe the lawmakers of Chicago should worry about the REAL issues. Revamp the projects. Help the homeless. Put money into the CTA. DON’T FIX SOMETHING THAT ISN’T BROKEN. You’re basing the ENTIRE entertainment industry on a few jackasses that don’t know what they’re doing. Their business will fail anyway because they don’t do things correctly. Don’t punish everyone else who is legit by your greedy money-wanting ways. Everyone here is trying to make a decent living. Let us keep our money and stimulate the economy by putting it back into home-based businesses and tourism so the economy can flourish once again, instead of it going back into the government to pay for unnecessary evils.
1124. Valerie | May 12, 2008 at 2:08 pm
This is completely insane. Make noise people-contact your alderman. Chicago has done some really stupid things from a cultural perspective in the past…remember how close we almost were to getting a Banana Republic in the heart of Wicker Park?
1125. Ed Ferrara | May 12, 2008 at 2:08 pm
This ordinance will ensure that the rich INDEPENDENT cultural heritage of Chicago — music, theatre, dance, etc. — will come to a screeching halt. I urge that this ordinance be tossed out as soon as possible.
1126. JS | May 12, 2008 at 2:08 pm
This ordinance will tie the hands of and ultimately shut down small theatre as we know it in Chicago.
1127. Elizabeth Hegelund | May 12, 2008 at 2:08 pm
How can the city be so callous and hinder the creativity of its citizens? I strongly oppose this ordinance.
“Above all, we are coming to understand that the arts incarnate the creativity of a free people. When the creative impulse cannot flourish, when it cannot freely select its methods and objects, when it is deprived of spontaneity, then society severs” – JFK
1128. George Sferra | May 12, 2008 at 2:08 pm
This ordinance is an affront to independent artists and performers trying to live and create in our great city. By stifling small time performers and promoters, the city council promoter’s ordinance will severely limit the vibrant, diverse and expressive cultural atmosphere of Chicago.
I strongly urge all council members who value the independent and vibrant cultural landscape of Chicago to oppose this unnecessary legislation.
Sincerely,
George Sferra,
Snuckafoo
1129. Frank K. | May 12, 2008 at 2:08 pm
The City of Chicago needs to learn how to “Create” a buck so they can stop “Stealing” it from the small business owners. Cook County is strongly in need of a TAXPAYER REVOLT ala L.A. circa 1978. NO to this ordinance!!!
1130. Kyle Parris | May 12, 2008 at 2:09 pm
As a comedian, this ordinance really riles me up.
If the owners of E2 had done their jobs properly, the tragedy wouldn’t have happened.
The E2 tragedy sucked! Don’t get me wrong about that. But think about the thousands of shows that have taken place during which NOBODY GOT KILLED! The owners of those clubs should’ve have to pay for the mistakes of the E2 idiots. Neither should the fans nor artists.
I live in Evanston, so I don’t have an alderman in Chicago. But please put my name on the list.
Kyle Parris
1131. Emily Vaughn | May 12, 2008 at 2:09 pm
Shocking that a Chicago area city council would be trying to jack up fees on the little people so they can pay for their own incompetence. What a joke.
1132. Mandie Cornelius | May 12, 2008 at 2:09 pm
BAD IDEA!
Please don’t pass this ordinance.
1133. John Lombardo | May 12, 2008 at 2:09 pm
This ordinance will cripple Chicago’s music scene.
1134. Pedro Castro | May 12, 2008 at 2:09 pm
The City’s theatre, comedy and music scene is great because there are small venues (with many tastes) everywhere. These artists make little to no money. We perform because we love it and we need opportunites to improve our craft.
Passing this ordinance will effectively reserve the opportunity to express musical and theatrical ideas to the rich and connected.
I sign this petition because I am a comedian from Chicago and, like everyone else, I deserve to be heard.
We should hold a protest rally.
1135. Heidi | May 12, 2008 at 2:10 pm
That is one of the things I LOVE about this city.Where will all these talented musicians play and how will they make a living?I really dislike the huge venues and live music,art and independent places…….. go hand in hand.
1136. luke | May 12, 2008 at 2:10 pm
i love the chicago underground music scene.
1137. JE | May 12, 2008 at 2:10 pm
Vote NO.
1138. Amanda Burkhead | May 12, 2008 at 2:11 pm
I think this is ridiculous. Smaller bands have it hard enough already.
1139. Anna | May 12, 2008 at 2:11 pm
Small venues are vital to Chicago’s music scene.Let’s save them!
1140. Louis Saunders | May 12, 2008 at 2:11 pm
This ordinance would greatly hinder Chicago’s vibrant music, comedy and culture. Let them know we care.
1141. Dan Sheridan | May 12, 2008 at 2:11 pm
Please please don’t pass this! Save Chicago’s music scene!
1142. Martin Klaudiosz | May 12, 2008 at 2:11 pm
Who wants this ordinance in place? It seems pretty obvious that the people involved with it don’t understand how serious a negative impact it would have on Chicago music and culture, and therefore cripple Chicago’s presence in music for the future.
Does this not mean anything?
1143. Gina Prendki | May 12, 2008 at 2:12 pm
This oridance would take away the heart and soul of Chicago. Peole live in Chicago so they can be part of a sub-culture of music and talent from their local communties that inspires them. This forced red tape and attempt to line government pockets should not come into the art arena. This would be a major infringement, and if passed just the first of many. Be wary, very wary about these type of activities!
1144. Ben Zepeda | May 12, 2008 at 2:12 pm
The creativity and culture that the city of Chicago posses makes it the amazing city that it is. The smaller venues and shows allow people to get their ideas and talent out in the open. It will be a shame if this is actually passed.
1145. Chip Aucoin | May 12, 2008 at 2:12 pm
This law would cripple one of the best features of Chicago entertainment – the hundreds of small acts available to Chicago’s public. To stop a few bad characters, the crafters of this law would prefer to just do away with any entertainment in Chicago but the few with big enough bank accounts. Furthermore, the wording of the bill is vague enough to allow for subjective application of whoever enforces it, which is a bad precedent to set.
Revisit this issue with an eye towards a more selective filter to allow Chicago’s unique entertainment culture to thrive, please.
1146. Jane Brody | May 12, 2008 at 2:13 pm
Do not pass this silly and inconsidered bill. Small arts venues are to best way to revive neighborhoods. This mistaken “tax” will shut down many small theatres and galleries.
They pay enough to their communities by encouraging new commerce
without asking much in return.
And Chicago’s varied arts’ scene is one of the most vibrant elements in the city. A civilization is known by its arts and we are one on the very best
1147. Susan Grimes | May 12, 2008 at 2:13 pm
politicians always sticking their damned noses in where they don’t belong. damned busy bodies
1148. Mikaela Siegel | May 12, 2008 at 2:13 pm
It’s hard enough to make a living as working artist. Please do not squash an artists right to perform for artistic fulfillment.
We artists don’t make a lot of money, but we do make some amazing art. Don’t take that from Chicago!!!
1149. Steve Morton | May 12, 2008 at 2:13 pm
Well, it’s obvious whose pocket the Chicago City Council is in. I guess their retirement fund is much more important than the people they supposedly represent. I can see a LOT of little venues suddenly springing up just outside the city limits, drawing the money away from the city, and good for them.
1150. Mike | May 12, 2008 at 2:14 pm
don’t tread on me!
Chicago is a hub of artistry, and people come here because of the allure of artistic freedom; not because we have tons of money to blow on the rest of the taxes and fees associated with living in Chicago. We are here because we love THE city and the culture within it.
Please don’t do this.
1151. Adam Pluth | May 12, 2008 at 2:14 pm
I guarantee that this would cause a lot of businesses and people to fail. In an economy like this do you really want this to happen? Also, what will be the draw to Chicago with the removal of rich cultural events? Please think of the consequences. I for one will move from Chicago if this happens as there will be nothing to do. Expect many people to be upset.
1152. david glossberg | May 12, 2008 at 2:14 pm
Please do NOT pass the promoter’s ordinance!
1153. Kevin Griffith | May 12, 2008 at 2:14 pm
I dont see this as being a good idea for those of you in chicago. If it happened in Detroit were we are, it would be even worse, our scene is much smaller.
1154. Finn Swingley | May 12, 2008 at 2:14 pm
Unbelievable. Yet another clearly nonsensical attempt by the City Council to insert its authority into every waking moment of every Chicagoans life. If this ordinance passes into law it certainly could spell an end to what is currently a very vibrant music and theater scene.
I am absolutely shocked that something as pointless and undefined as this “promoter’s ordinance” (which seems to be clearly leaning towards rewarding the largest venues and promoters at the expense of everyone else) would even be considered, much less be on the verge of passing as a law.
Let’s see some sense coming from Chicago government for once. Put the brakes on this ordinance, rethink it, rewrite it, put it forth to the music and arts community for input, whatever it takes to get a fair and realistic law. As it stands, this ordinance simply makes no sense.
1155. Annalyse LaPine | May 12, 2008 at 2:14 pm
absolutly ridiculous! Why would we want to kill such a huge part of our own community like that!?!?!
1156. heidi schreck | May 12, 2008 at 2:14 pm
this is unbelievable. i feel like more of my rights are being taken away.whats next????!!! Seems like the law makers are making it so hard for us promotors that we will just choose to stop or be forced to shut down. this is horrible and will directly effect my work and life.
1157. William Karnoscak | May 12, 2008 at 2:14 pm
This ordinance would also imperil not-for-profit venues like the Old Town School of Folk Music, etc.
These places already struggle to present independent and world music culture to our city. Adding this financial burden will ultimately strip our town of the great diversity of live music entertainment that is now (often barely) possible.
The shame of this is ironic because the City of Chicago themselves should have shut down the E2 when it was first noted as being out of compliance with city codes.
Please do not punish the small, indie venues for this oversight.
Respectfully submitted,
William Karnoscak
Ravenswood
1158. Nick | May 12, 2008 at 2:15 pm
I disapprove of this ordinance.
1159. nick broste | May 12, 2008 at 2:15 pm
passing this ordinance will destroy the performing arts in this city as we know it. every year thousands of people make their way to chicago to perform and contribute to the greatness of our city. where will they all go if 98% of the venues disappear as a result of these ridiculous regulations? please keep the arts alive in our city and vote no on wednesday. thanks.
1160. Nick Santiago | May 12, 2008 at 2:15 pm
As an underground artist and a young entrepreneur it is vital to our business to have the ability to freely inform others of our endeavors. I feel strongly that the ability to inform others be it by spoken word or by paper is a freedom that should not be removed from any citizen of the city of Chicago or from our Country. Please do not pass this ordinance, it makes me feel that as a musician I will have to find a new city to operate out of.
1161. Dustin Fillion | May 12, 2008 at 2:16 pm
This ordinance is rediculous and would severly impact the city and my bands negatively. Let alone all of the the musicians and actors who have only small shows as thier primary source of income. This ordinance cannot pass!!!!!!!!!!
1162. Will Andeer | May 12, 2008 at 2:16 pm
This ordinance clearly severs no purpose other than taking money from those who have the balls to pursue there talents as they help business by inspiring people in the area or out of town to be there , That helps gas stations ( 4$ a gallon) restaurants, local shops and many others
So not only are you stopping local artist from getting ahead your hurting everything around it. your better off not passing this issue and looking around the city for someone who has a brain. This will save time for everybody when it come to things such as these.
1163. Sarai Shacklett | May 12, 2008 at 2:16 pm
A ridiculous proposition, just say no.
1164. Lauren | May 12, 2008 at 2:16 pm
Chicago’s independent music (and theater) scene is one of the things that makes the city’s culture so rich. It provides a place for both the people who cant afford big $50+ ticket shows, and for the performers who work in a small circuit. Culture is about a variety of expression. If you take away this independence and this creativity for culture, if you cannot let the music continue to live and breathe as it does now, you take away one of the reasons so many people love Chicago.
1165. Chris Gombas | May 12, 2008 at 2:16 pm
I do not support this ordinance.
1166. Regina Ramos | May 12, 2008 at 2:16 pm
Yes, add my name to the list! Chicago has the greatest concert experiences, which is why I live here. This ordinance purely sucks and limits our freedom of expression as well as for the livelihood for the performers, musicians, and promoters. It would be completely selfish to “fix” the “problem” when clearly there isn’t one. I think the city should try to get the guns off the streets than messing with the music scene first…
1167. kyne aldridge | May 12, 2008 at 2:17 pm
This is a terrible idea by the city council
1168. Joe Daley | May 12, 2008 at 2:17 pm
What is the purpose of this ordinance? I can see no practical use for this ordinance besides city government, and insurance companies reaching even further into citizen’s pockets. For shame! Yes, let’s tax and restrict small independent promoters and bands until there’s nothing left to see on a Saturday night but Disney on Ice sponsored by US Cellular.
A thought for the City Counsel: How about requiring a $500.00 license for an individual who comes up with a creative idea? I don’t mean $500.00 a year license. I mean a license for every new creative idea any individual comes up, within the city limits. (Ooops, I think I just cost myself $500) This way, we can insure a safe community where normal citizens don’t have any original or “unhealthy” thoughts. We can all be completely robotic and soulless together.
1169. Dianne Harrop | May 12, 2008 at 2:17 pm
Silliness. This kills the small venue and supports the big business theatres. Our local artists deserve better.
1170. Charles Roder | May 12, 2008 at 2:17 pm
This ordinance is just plain crazy! Please do not let this pass!!!!
1171. Dave Donahue | May 12, 2008 at 2:17 pm
Add my name to the list. The rocking should never be stopped.
1172. Kristin Bruni | May 12, 2008 at 2:17 pm
what an abomination! this is a major city! where are musicians going to be heard if this ordinance is passed.
political greed is running rampant and it must stop!
1173. Erin Eberle | May 12, 2008 at 2:17 pm
This is the most ridiculous law I’ve ever heard of. Promoters have nothing to do with venues being over capacity. That has to do with the venue. It would be horrible if this ordinance gets passed!
1174. Chris Kranz | May 12, 2008 at 2:18 pm
Please vote NO. Where will the city theater and music scene go? Where will the uniquness of Chicago go? Does the city care about its citizens??
1175. Lydia Huckeba | May 12, 2008 at 2:18 pm
Please keep Chicago, well Chicago. It is such an artistic city from public art to concerts and performances, and to take any of that away would be a shame. Please support, not hinder, the arts.
1176. David Salas | May 12, 2008 at 2:18 pm
This is very ridiculous!! I cannot believe my eyes. Chicago’s very known for its live music and dance. I always look forward to seeing these types of live acts. Without them are we really a culturally enriched city. I doubt it! Please do not sign this bill!!!! I want to be proud of the city I live in.
1177. patrick heer | May 12, 2008 at 2:18 pm
this is proposal is idiotic and absurd, how could you even think of doing this to a city with such a great scene? ridiculous, we need to stop this from becoming law
1178. Angela McMahon | May 12, 2008 at 2:18 pm
Hope my support helps the cause.
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1180. Karen Shields | May 12, 2008 at 2:18 pm
Rather than celebrating the arts in Chicago this ordinance seems intent on dooming…and making a dime while doing so. Please do NOT pass this ordinance.
1181. Mashit | May 12, 2008 at 2:19 pm
Entire genres of music would not exist if it weren’t for “underground” music scenes; most notably in this case Chicago-blues and house music. Lets take the later for example. From the Wikipedia entry on house music:
“House music was developed in the houses, garages and clubs of Chicago and Detroit, and it was produced for local club-goers in the “underground” club scenes, rather than for widespread commercial release. As a result, the recordings were much more conceptual, longer than the music usually played on commercial radio.”
This “underground” music went on to have a gigantic influence on dance music all over the world which is one reason why Chicago is known as an important cultural center. The underground clubs like the Ware(house) where this music developed would never have survived a draconian law like this. This is a deep disappointment, Chicago!
1182. Ashten Klappa-Cales | May 12, 2008 at 2:19 pm
Terrible idea, do not let this pass.
1183. Bryant_Autrey | May 12, 2008 at 2:19 pm
I feel that music worldwide is like the Voltron effect and we come together as a whole to keep the dance movement progressing. By taking away one important part of it can drastically effect music in other parts of the world so we need to come together to stop things like this from happening.
In the 15 + years that I have been going out to specialized events and so forth, it has changed my attitude towards life and how I percieve the world in general. I think that greed and politics have corrupted our scene on a large scale and it is very saddening. People as a whole are blind and have yet to realize the power that music has to bring nations together no matter what your race, skin color or belief. We’re all in this for the same reason. To unite and bring peace worldwide.
1184. Emily | May 12, 2008 at 2:19 pm
Music is a form of self expression and freedom. It has always been hard for artists to survive, and underground, smaller artists live off of going venue to venue playing small crowds hoping to eventually fill up a place with tons of people.
The past few years especially, music has been such a hard scene to live in. Everything is expensive and licenses are required to do anything. Venues are already required to have their own business licenses, security, etc. There is no reason for the promoter’s ordinance besides making the city more money. Chicago is, or, used to be a huge music area where honest musicians could play their instruments and make people happy with their music. Let’s keep it that way.
1185. Mary B Dietrick | May 12, 2008 at 2:19 pm
This is such a bad idea! Please don’t approve it!
1186. Deanna Mandarino | May 12, 2008 at 2:19 pm
Making a living in arts and entertainment is difficult enough without having to submit to such strict and financially burdening regulations. Please do not pass this legislation.
1187. Elizabeth Adamczyk | May 12, 2008 at 2:20 pm
I hope our Chicago officials treasure and value the smaller theater and vote accordingly.
1188. Nick Liberatore | May 12, 2008 at 2:20 pm
I oppose this as such an ordinance would destroy a thriving and vital part of what is truly an important aspect of Chicago’s music and culture – the independent artists, promoters and venues that truly stand to the “for the people, by the people” attitude.
1189. Patrick | May 12, 2008 at 2:20 pm
This is simply greed, there is no possible reason for it other than that. Come on councilmen, show that you care about anything other than the giant dollar signs in your eyes.
1190. Jarrett Gable | May 12, 2008 at 2:20 pm
Please don’t pass this ordinance. Thank you.
Chicago Resident,
Jarrett Gable
1191. Bud Johnson | May 12, 2008 at 2:20 pm
If this ordinance is supposed to generate revenue, it won’t. In fact it will have the exact opposite effect. If you ask a tourist what comes to mind when they think of Chicago, it’s three things. Pizza, Jazz/blues, and Tommy guns. Do Chicago’s revenue a favor. Focus on Tommy guns. After 20 years of trying, we’re almost known for theatre. Don’t kill the hands that feed us!
1192. Scott Whitehair | May 12, 2008 at 2:20 pm
This sounds too ridiculous to be true. We don’t need your protection, council. Drop this ordinance before you embarrass yourselves and punish our city.
1193. Ben Scott | May 12, 2008 at 2:21 pm
this is an absurd ordinance that does not seem likely to pass. I would say a solid 90%(minimum) of chicago’s more(or less) well known independent bands got their start through( and if they are good, still play) DIY show spaces. Hope this doesn’t pass.
1194. Leo A. Flores | May 12, 2008 at 2:21 pm
Please do not pass this ordinance. Chicago already has a hard enough time competing with LA and NY when it come to supporting artists and creating entertainment. This would basically kill Chicago’s emerging and thriving music scene.
1195. Rich Reillo | May 12, 2008 at 2:21 pm
This is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard! Put my name down on this list!
1196. Julianna Arquilla | May 12, 2008 at 2:21 pm
The small venues are what make Chicago. That is why I love living here being exposed to small bands, new music, comedy, theater etc. That is what makes Chicago so unique you can see almost anything anywhere any night.
Passing this ordinance as many have said before me would make this almost impossible to still happen.
1197. Amity | May 12, 2008 at 2:21 pm
NO WAY IN HELL!!! EVER!!
1198. Elizabeth Janicek | May 12, 2008 at 2:21 pm
I’m within equal driving distance of Chicago and several smaller cities. Yet I come to Chicago specifically for the diversity of smaller music and theater events. I also visit restaurants, use public transportation and stay in hotels. While Chicago’s size makes it more of a hassle than other cities, it has always been worth the trip.
If the City fails to work with its own musical organizations to develop a policy that is fair and effective, the attractions that draw me and many others to Chicago will suffer. I will be more likely to visit those other, smaller cities that are easier to get to. If the arts scene suffers, the city will suffer: both internally affecting your own citizens and organizations, and externally impacting the decisions of potential regular visitors.
1199. Abraham Pons | May 12, 2008 at 2:22 pm
SALVEMOS A CHCAGO DE LA NO CULTURA
1200. Shaina | May 12, 2008 at 2:22 pm
I can’t even begin to understand why anyone would want this ordinance passed. Well, maybe those who are getting the money from it. Money has never been a word associated with theater. How can they think they’ll get away this?
1201. Danielle O'Farrell | May 12, 2008 at 2:23 pm
I am strongly opposed to this ordinance…
1202. Tony Mundaca | May 12, 2008 at 2:23 pm
As Being a passionate and driven Music artist and performer from Chicago, it would only make me think twice about staying here in Chicago. Please stop the madness!!!! Please Vote NO!!!!
Grace & Peace
1203. Benjamin Lewis | May 12, 2008 at 2:23 pm
I’ve already written my Alderman… I hope he listens.
1204. Alina | May 12, 2008 at 2:23 pm
Heck NO! Proposal = BAD idea…
waste the time and energy on far more important issues please.
1205. Dustin White | May 12, 2008 at 2:23 pm
No!
1206. Chris Bellew | May 12, 2008 at 2:23 pm
This ordinance is ridiculous! Chicago has churned out some amazing underground bands in the last few decades and this will surely do away with that in the future, which would be a complete travesty.
1207. Sarah | May 12, 2008 at 2:23 pm
I can’t imagine how anyone would think this is okay.
I do not approve whatsoever and am very disappointed.
1208. Jordan Benik | May 12, 2008 at 2:24 pm
This is so totes ridiculous! I’m against this ordinance for sure.
1209. Amy Sumpter | May 12, 2008 at 2:24 pm
Stop IT!!! This is going way to far! Don’t take away ART from this amazing city. for everyone who makes a mistake and people are hurt, thousands are doing it right. don’t pass this crazyness!
1210. Nate Euhus | May 12, 2008 at 2:24 pm
In the months since the last time City Hall tried to push this thing through (until big-timers like United Center and All-State Arena voiced their opposition), has their been any consultation with Chicago’s performing community? Perhaps there has been and I am unaware, but in any case this ordinance is completely unfounded and even repressive. Surely a better solution can be found for whatever problem City Council is trying to address here.
1211. Graham Rosby | May 12, 2008 at 2:24 pm
Come on, guys. Don’t be ridiculous.
1212. Steve Gonzalez | May 12, 2008 at 2:24 pm
This “law” and I use the term loosely, is a piece of crap straight out of the kitty litter box. You crooked freemason politicians will do ANYTHING to get more money, even if it means infringing on our rights and spoiling everyone else’s fun. You people claim to be so educated, yet some of your your idiotic laws are questionable. Get a life. There’s the much bigger problem of drugs and gangs and violent crimes, and you’re worried about music? Wow, I had no idea the New World Order was beginning in Chicago….
1213. Jack Munroe | May 12, 2008 at 2:24 pm
Just silence our voices in the land of the free
1214. Steve Earle | May 12, 2008 at 2:24 pm
This is right off the Chicago Tourism website:
“What better way to end your day than taking in one of the city’s most entertaining hot spots. Chicago will provide you with a night of live music performances, cozy lounges, comedy shows, piano bars and much more. Whatever your entertainment needs are, Chicago delivers. Whether you dance the night away at a popular club or laugh out loud at a hilarious comedy show, Chicago provides the ultimate entertainment experience!
The only Blues Capital of the World, Chicago has no shortage of live entertainment after dark. Besides the Blues, music styles as diverse as Jazz, Gospel and House music have been entertaining guests for decades and continue to thrive to this day. ”
Now how do they expect to continue to say this after they shut everything down that isn’t big enough or rich enough to pay for their ridiculous licenses, etc.?
City Council…wake up and smell the coffee!!!! You can’t promote the city for the very thing you are trying to kill off, or didn’t you think about that?
1215. David Maher | May 12, 2008 at 2:24 pm
Please vote no.
1216. Rob Crowe | May 12, 2008 at 2:24 pm
Stop the madness, don’t pass this ordinance.
1217. Alexis Mondragon | May 12, 2008 at 2:24 pm
Please do NOT pass this oridinance. It will hinder the evolution of entertainment and stop so many potentially influential people from getting their work out into the world.
1218. LINDA MENSCH | May 12, 2008 at 2:24 pm
The ordinance, as written should be rejected as overbroad. The idea of prohibiting loud, intrusive, unregulated events in unsafe facilities is a good one, but this ordinance undermines Chicago’s ability to develop and expose new talent at venues that already have business licenses.
The Ordinance needs to exclude existing and future venues that safely expose talent on a regular basis, without burdening these businesses with onerous license requirements.
1219. Steven | May 12, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Metal, hardcore, and punk have thrived upon the basement show, the alley show, the basement of a bar show, without these so many bands, let alone scenes as a whole, would not have made it. This law must not pass unless we are willing to let the masses control out music scene here in Chicago
1220. Adrian DiGiovanni | May 12, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Unacceptable. WHY would you want to do this? I don’t…I mean…what?! To the powers that be: “We, the community, do not want this!”
1221. Danielle Cook | May 12, 2008 at 2:25 pm
This ordinance is ridiculous!
1222. Maureen Miller | May 12, 2008 at 2:25 pm
I do not support this ordinance, the small music and theater venues are the foundation of the Chicago arts community.
1223. Dana Tretta | May 12, 2008 at 2:25 pm
100% AGAINST this ordinance!
1224. Aylon Samouha | May 12, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Please do not pass this ordinance. As a musician in Chicago who often boasts to people worldwide that Chicago has the best music scene in the world, I shudder to think of losing the lynchpin that holds this cultural mecca together: small venues. I was so proud of this city for taking on the loopatapia event…that is TRUE Chicago style. Let’s keep the dream alive!
1225. Andy David | May 12, 2008 at 2:26 pm
There are more effective ways to see to “safety” of public events. This ordinance is suffocating to much of the cultural lifeblood of the city and should NOT be passed.
1226. Michael Knish | May 12, 2008 at 2:26 pm
Put plainly, this is going to kill the local music scene. Chicago is a unique city that’s huge, but allows smaller, independent artists room to breathe and develop. I’m an artist about to graduate and will not be moving to Chicago if this law is passed, and I’m sure I’m not the only one.
1227. Jim Green | May 12, 2008 at 2:26 pm
If this thing goes through… me and 1,000s of other musicians will not be able to play in Chicago again… we’ll stick to the suburbs and thats where our fans will spend their money. How is this good for Chicago?
1228. Rich | May 12, 2008 at 2:26 pm
This is unbelievable! Things like this make it hard to be proud of Chicago. It seems like another excuse to waste public funds! Government is supposed to work for the people. How does this help?
1229. Bridget Hansen | May 12, 2008 at 2:27 pm
I am opposed to this ordinance. Please listen to the concert-goers and music/art lovers of Chicago and do not pass this!
1230. TOM | May 12, 2008 at 2:27 pm
As a musician in Chicago i think this is terrible. Are they trying to stop people from expressing themselves. Why would you want to take creativity away from so many people?
1231. Jo Collura | May 12, 2008 at 2:27 pm
Chicago! Please don’t smash our dreams to smithereens! I moved to this beautiful city from New York to pursue my musical career. I love living and working here, and being a part of the unique culture that makes Chicago so great. Many of us Chicagoan musicians are blue collar, working day jobs to take care of necessities, but are living for the art. The diversity of independent music and art that is currently thriving in this city is too important to just eliminate. Stop the Promoter’s Ordinance!
1232. Lucy Carr | May 12, 2008 at 2:27 pm
regional theatre started in chicago. it started with the tiny storefront theatres like steppenwolf which started in a church basement and has since become one of the most prominant theatres in the country. storefront theatre is every actor gets there start there needs to be people out there to point at society to change the world. chicago is known for its theatre community. we have over 200 theatre companies. most of whom make little to no money and do it for the love of theatre. don not take away art.
1233. Abby Rowold | May 12, 2008 at 2:27 pm
NO TO THE PROMOTER’S ORDINANCE!!
1234. Ryan Zareczny | May 12, 2008 at 2:28 pm
This ordinance is completely rediculous, Chicago is a cenrtal hub for creativity in the Midwest, to put any further limitations on the artists who contribute there creativity and culture to the city is untollerable, not only do Chicago artists bring beauty and culture to there contibutions are like framework for business,with the new restrictions not only will Chicago artist be hurt, but the businesses that host these events will also be affected, which will in turn effect the cummunity financially as a whole. I am firmly against the new ordinance
-Ryan Zareczny
1235. Marsha Geib | May 12, 2008 at 2:28 pm
Please do not punish the small business owner. We have enough mega-corporations eating up small companies and spitting out employees for the good of the bottom line. The national government has already reduced NEA contributions so that the only art we see or hear is homogenized.
1236. mike p | May 12, 2008 at 2:29 pm
That would be completely retarded if they tried to go through with that ordinance. Everyone knows that Chicago relies on tourism as part of it’s revenue. Taste of Chicago and Blues Festival always have tons of great music playing there. not to mention all of the people who migrate towards chicago just for the amazing music playing there.
They would clearly lose more money than gained by going through with it.
1237. Matt Yeates | May 12, 2008 at 2:29 pm
This is ridiculous. Chicago is one of the greatest cities in the world in regards to its rich culture and art. I just don’t understand why someone would want to smother this amazing community.
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1239. Paul B | May 12, 2008 at 2:29 pm
This proposed ordinance is a gross overreaction. Unlike lawmakers who can make a living from pure bureaucracy, the rest of us have to make a living some other way. Stop building obstacles to everyone else’s “pursuit of happiness”.
1240. Cal Bailey | May 12, 2008 at 2:29 pm
This is unjust. How can you stiffel the creativity of artist (of any kind) who cannot afford these conditions. You are not only putting an end to a PUBLIC source of entertainment, but also to the dreams of several young students who hope to one day be the next Travis Barker or The Next Christina Ricci. I highly urge that this be reconsidered and overturned at all cost.
1241. Brandon Wilhelm | May 12, 2008 at 2:29 pm
Ridiculous. This is one more way for the city to bleed the little guy dry while letting corruption run rampant. Making it impossible for creativity to survive is only going to hurt the city even more. Let’s solve the real problem with the city’s money issue, not stifle the creativity Chicago is known for.
1242. Heather Kryszak | May 12, 2008 at 2:29 pm
This is completely absurd. I strongly disagree with and appose this ordinance. Safety is important, but requiring funds and a finger print is not the best way to go about it.
1243. Stacy | May 12, 2008 at 2:30 pm
I am against this ordinance, vote no
1244. Jeff Evans | May 12, 2008 at 2:30 pm
This ordinance is about the worst idea I’ve ever heard.
1245. Mary Lamphere | May 12, 2008 at 2:30 pm
This is CRAZY. I don’t get it… what’s the point? What do they hope to accomplish? We cannot let this happen.
1246. Craig Berman | May 12, 2008 at 2:30 pm
Do not allow this ordinance to pass! As our mainstream media culture slowly creeps towards corporate sameness and the lowest common denominator, small arts organizations and performances celebrate the diversity of creativity that still flourishes at a grassroots level. Don’t stamp out the little guy!
1247. Simon A. Smith | May 12, 2008 at 2:30 pm
You’re joking, right? If I only wanted to see a bunch of corporate garbage on obnoxiously large and tacky stages, I’d turn on my TV and stay off the streets of Chicago entirely. You’ll ruin this city. I don’t think that’s an exaggeration at all. Warning: you have no idea what you are doing. Abort mission now and we’ll all try to forget you were stupid enough to suggest it in the first place. Deal?
1248. Jordan Baskin | May 12, 2008 at 2:30 pm
This would be some terrible legislation.
1249. Nicole | May 12, 2008 at 2:30 pm
I’m not really even in the Chicago music and theatre scene but I know that both are vital for our city and the people of Chicago. How many careers have been launched out of Chicago? Too many to count I’m sure. With no support for smaller venues from the city of Chicago, in the long run, the city itself will suffer. Sorry to say this is bigger than they can imagine. It needs to be seen that the scene will always remain, with or without their permission.
1250. Tony Lentino | May 12, 2008 at 2:30 pm
This is my career of choice, why mess it up for anyone that’s not Jam or Live nation?
1251. Alison Fernandez | May 12, 2008 at 2:31 pm
City Council should vote against this ordinance .
1252. Marge Tiritilli | May 12, 2008 at 2:31 pm
NO TO THE PROMOTER’S ORDINANCE!!
1253. Brian Lagerstrom | May 12, 2008 at 2:31 pm
Why would the city do such a thing to stifle art? Do they charge galleries 500 dollars to show art?
1254. Veronica Murtagh | May 12, 2008 at 2:33 pm
I moved to Chicago in 2002 after graduating college in Virginia. Alone in a new city with no friends or family, I found a sense of belonging in the clubs, concerts and art shows of the city. It brought me out of my shell and connected me professionally and personally to my new city.
Six years later I find myself promoting and managing nightlife events. I co-manage the successful Smash&Crunch parties which have debuted several foreign artists in their first United States. gigs. With a day job in advertising, I have made use of my professional design background to link up with and assist other promoters around the city to revamp their images and handle their online promotion.
Recently I launched a music blog, . My writing team is composed of passionate individuals I have met through my endeavors and years in Chicago.
In no other city could such a tightly knit network exist as the one we have built in Chicago. We cross-promote and attend each others events. We are family built on music, nightlife, love and passion. Please do not take away our ability to welcome that next shy Chicago newcomer, unsure of herself, looking for friends and a place to belong.
It is more than an event and money to us. It is how we define ourselves, our identity and our family.
Sincerely,
Veronica L. Murtagh
| Owner
| Co-Manager
1255. Ari Bendersky | May 12, 2008 at 2:33 pm
As the editor of UR Chicago magazine, I am shocked the city would put its thriving music and arts scene on the chopping block like this. Please stop this ridiculous law from passing — it will only serve to kill live music in the city.
1256. Majel Cuza | May 12, 2008 at 2:33 pm
I strongly oppose this ridiculous ordinance.
1257. Jose Ramos | May 12, 2008 at 2:33 pm
Are you serious?
Live and let LIVE!!
1258. Michelle Syens | May 12, 2008 at 2:33 pm
The proposition of this ordinance is horrifying. Small venues are the soul of our city.
1259. Eli Hildreth | May 12, 2008 at 2:34 pm
I can hardly believe that an idea this horrible is actually real! Why would Chicago do such a thing? Small venues would be losing a lot of business, many promoters would not be able to get the license, and Chicago would lose a LOT of interesting culture! All around, this is a bad, bad, BAD idea. Please don’t let it happen!
1260. Robert Chambers | May 12, 2008 at 2:34 pm
This will destroy the culture of the city. It will harm the economy gravely. It will push small time performance underground and make it less safe.
1261. Brendan | May 12, 2008 at 2:34 pm
Don’t do it, Chicago.
I want to live!
1262. Traci Weingardt | May 12, 2008 at 2:34 pm
I am TOTALLY against this ordinance. Please DO NOT let this happen. I just sent my alderman an email. I hope he gets it.
1263. Amy Lynn | May 12, 2008 at 2:34 pm
Chicago is a city Known for their entertainment and music. This is an ordinance that will ruin the Chicago entertainment that actually is affordable. This is ridicoulous.
1264. Tim | May 12, 2008 at 2:35 pm
what a bunch of fools. ridiculous.
1265. Adam Drakos | May 12, 2008 at 2:35 pm
This is defiantly ridiculous. I live in northwest Indiana, and a lot of shows i go to happen in Chicago. This has to be a violation of our freedoms.
-Adam
1266. sandra palencia | May 12, 2008 at 2:35 pm
I VOTE NO TO THE PROMOTER’S ORDINANCE!!!
1267. Andy Vent | May 12, 2008 at 2:35 pm
Lawmakers need to understand the necessity of underground culture, especially dealing with music. Don’t make it even harder for starving and struggling artists to be heard.
Don’t make the art of art…even harder than it already is.
1268. Matt W | May 12, 2008 at 2:35 pm
if this law is passed it will kill Chicago’s cultural scene which is a huge part of what makes the city great. Chicago’s music and theatre the scene is famous nationwide AS IT IS. I can’t believe this is even being considered. Please put a stop to this.
1269. Nicole Muffitt | May 12, 2008 at 2:36 pm
Passing this ordinance would cripple Chicago’s music scene. Small venues turn concerts into magical little dream worlds! Not to mention that The Metro = love. They CAN’T pass this!
1270. Nicole C | May 12, 2008 at 2:37 pm
This city is backwards. This ordinance WILL NOT WORK. Cops can show up, try and enforce things, but there will always be underground music shows in Chicago. I don’t see the point in making things more difficult for people who don’t have much to begin with.
PLEASE FIND ANOTHER WAY TO PROCURE MONEY FOR THE CORRUPT, LOPSIDED, ILLOGICAL BUDGET.
and FUCK the OLYMPICS.
1271. Erika | May 12, 2008 at 2:37 pm
Why is the world ending?
Please, Council members, don’t kill our city.
1272. Nicole C | May 12, 2008 at 2:37 pm
FUCK THE OLYMPICS
1273. JAMES COTA | May 12, 2008 at 2:37 pm
This will put a stranglehold of the foundation of Chicago. Music is a huge part of Chicago history and to restrict the promotors from helping spread this culture is RIDICULOUS. The city council needs to shift the focus from PROFITS to PEOPLE.
1274. Katie M. | May 12, 2008 at 2:37 pm
Seems like there needs to be an addendum allowing small, safe promoters to keep up their important work without having to pay such hefty costs…
1275. Brian McKeown | May 12, 2008 at 2:38 pm
What an embarassment for the city of Chicago it will be when local blues and jazz musicians can no longer play at clubs like Kingston Mines and the Green Mill! This is a ridiculous notion! Do not vote for this measure
1276. Amy Austin | May 12, 2008 at 2:38 pm
As a publicist this not only hurts the music and arts community but is an insult. I have a college degree and have been the member of public relations associations, in addition to having a resume with years of experience. There is no practical reason why the city should be charging ME to do my job! This is just another stingy way for the city to make money — Chicago corruption at its best. They take something we are passionate about and find a way to make money off of it for themselves. It’s all about the Benjamins.
1277. Matthew Suhar / Tantrum Mgmt & Touring | May 12, 2008 at 2:38 pm
Whoever thinks this is a good idea should NOT be allowed to live in Chicago for just thinking this is up.
1278. David Seuc | May 12, 2008 at 2:38 pm
This would be the most idiotic legislation ever! Do we need more reason for artists to leave Chicago! I moved here because of the music, if you take that away you take away my CHICAGO! No to PROMOTERS ORDINANCE!
1279. Tracy Kuhn | May 12, 2008 at 2:38 pm
This law is absolutely ridiculous! Local music is a HUGE part of Chicago. It has brought so many people together. If it weren’t for places such as Double Door and the Beat Kitchen, I wouldn’t have some of the most wonderful friends in the world!
1280. DANNY | May 12, 2008 at 2:38 pm
Do not eliminate the music community from performing in Chicago!!!!
1281. Dawud Jalil | May 12, 2008 at 2:38 pm
I am totally opposed to this ordinance. This totally out prices the smaller promoters and will basically ensure that only major events take place. Chicago has a very diverse, thriving culture. This will only suffocate it’s growth.
1282. Kyle Beachy | May 12, 2008 at 2:38 pm
Absolutely not. An outrageous ordinance, an outrageous attempt to slip through the cracks of public discourse, and an outrageous and bland future for the city if it passes.
Please, stop.
kb
1283. Brent Walker | May 12, 2008 at 2:39 pm
You have got to be kidding me! This ordinance will have such far reaching NEGATIVE effects on the culture and commerce of this great city’s music, theatre, and arts community. Please do not pass this ordinance!
1284. Randy Smith | May 12, 2008 at 2:39 pm
Wow the city of Chicago is once again putting its hands where it has no bussiness.Music in Chicago is already stressed by the lack of good and fair paying venues.This move by the city is just goofy.Hey how about fixing things like public transit and the vast number of problems Chicago has and let music and arts live and grow in Chicago.These are the things that bring people to the city dont kill that.
1285. Christopher Donaldson | May 12, 2008 at 2:39 pm
This will not only affect the city’s music scene, but also it’s comedy scene. Without small venues, new acts will have no place to go. Please put a halt to this insanity.
1286. Kelly Yacono | May 12, 2008 at 2:39 pm
This ordinance is utterly ridiculous. It’s just another way to stifle the “little guy” who cares more about creating art rather than making millions of dollars. Why should WE have to suffer? A big fat NO to this ordinance!
1287. Jon Dick | May 12, 2008 at 2:39 pm
I believe that this ordinance will greatly harm the thriving Chicago fringe theater and comedy scene. Chicago is currently considered a destination by many young actors due to the opportunity provided by this city’s cultual scene. This ordinance will likely kill this opportunity and ruin the city’s artistic future.
1288. Audarshia Townsend | May 12, 2008 at 2:39 pm
This blows. I’m sure members of the City Council have seen their share of live music, theater, nightlife, visual arts, etc. This didn’t just come out of nowhere, and stifling art and culture in Chicago is not only going to turn back the clock but discourage others from coming to our fine city.
As a huge proponent of the arts community–and a lifelong Chicagoan–I find this a slap in face. Whre’s the humanity?!
1289. Kyle Shoemaker | May 12, 2008 at 2:40 pm
This attempt at regulation by the city is a terrible mistake that would backfire with long-term negative affects on the city. As a music lover I would be very angry to see such a law pass, but as a resident of the city I would be furious at such anti-progressive legislation that would have a dramatic affect on the culture of this city.
1290. Lizz Kannenberg | May 12, 2008 at 2:40 pm
Insanity. Blogged about it at http://nodessertforyou.com/
1291. Lauren Adermann | May 12, 2008 at 2:40 pm
Please vote in opposition to this unnecessary ordinance. In a time of our plummeting economy and low morale, this is one of the worst things that could happen to the music community.
Current regulation of PPA licenses and safety and security guidelines are sufficient, requiring the venues themselves to carry the proper coverage. In effect, it’s double taxation. The ordinance also unfairly singles out small venues and venues without fixed seating.
The goal for any additional regulation should be enforcement of current laws and punishment of those who do not obey them, not increased burdens on existing businesses. Additionally,
the harm this would cause to the nation-wide music community would be catastrophic. The small promoters, bands, venues and theaters that would lose money and eventually be forced out of business by the ordinance are the people/businesses that help foster the careers of so many artists that we know and love today.
VOTE NO TO THE PROMOTER’S ORDINANCE!
1292. Blooms | May 12, 2008 at 2:40 pm
NO!!!!!! We need to support our local artists/musicians! If they didn’t have the potato’s to live the life we dream about (not to mention usually in poverty), who would? We can’t all lean back on Daddy’s pocketbook. This is another band-aid placated approach to address problems (i.e., lining the governments pockets). I am not a musician for a living but I do get out and play on occasion adn I can say that I am astounded that anyone would think this idea is OK, if not revolting!
1293. Ryan Ensley | May 12, 2008 at 2:40 pm
I, personally have been in several bands throughout the chicago area and am involved in setting up shows, and getting DIY music out to people who love it. If this bill is passed it would have a tremendously negative impact on something that is there for people who love music. This bill will stifle creativity, community, and passion.
STOP THIS!
1294. Kristin Pearl | May 12, 2008 at 2:41 pm
This ordinance will change the face of the Chicago music culture. I don’t come to chicago to listen to the bands in person, but I hear about underground artists from my friends who do. The music scene in Chicago right now is broader than you could imagine and Chicago is known for it’s unique and creative music culture. The promoter’s ordinance is a mistake and it’s potential affect should be further researched before passed.
1295. Lauren Hallman | May 12, 2008 at 2:41 pm
This is absolutely ridiculous. Chicago is a wonderful city and the artists here have so much to offer, and doing something like this would undoubtedly have an extremely negative effect on the positive ways that the city has been growing and developing over the years.
1296. Keith | May 12, 2008 at 2:41 pm
Completely ridiculous. It is hard enough for small time promotors to even turn a profit. Putting a law into effect completely kills anyone trying to turn a passion for music into a job. Don’t destroy our hopes.
1297. robert | May 12, 2008 at 2:41 pm
Free country ma a.., laws laws and laws.
1298. Tracy Pilarczyk | May 12, 2008 at 2:41 pm
As someone who is a huge fan of music in general, and who goes to hear music mainly at smaller venues, I have to say this is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard. I’m giving a big fat NO to this ordinance.
1299. Megan Wickersham | May 12, 2008 at 2:42 pm
I vote No! Absolutely not! Do not let this happen by any means!!
Save the Music!!!!
1300. Michael Fox | May 12, 2008 at 2:42 pm
Please don’t take some of the most beautiful and exciting elements out of Chicago – it’s what makes the city a great place to live in.
1301. Jude Fischer | May 12, 2008 at 2:42 pm
I live in the far northern suburbs and live music is the main reason I come into the city. In fact, my wife and I are considering moving to the city so we can be closer to these events. We enjoy the museums and restaurants, but we LOVE the music. Being able to see young, emerging bands in clubs like Schuba’s, Martyrs, the Empty Bottle, Subterranean, Reggie’s, The Hideout and Metro is one of the things that makes Chicago great. I have a 20 year old son who play drums in a band that has performed in all of these venues. These clubs gave the band a chance to play when clubs in the suburbs would not — they’d rather book a cover band than a band that actually CREATES music. If you have any regard for music and the arts — and Chicago’s international reputation for great music — you can’t simply cannot take these clubs away.
Don’t do it.
1302. Paul Metreyeon | May 12, 2008 at 2:43 pm
I sure hope this does not pass……
1303. Dustin Alberty | May 12, 2008 at 2:43 pm
I am a resident of Cleveland Ohio and a friend of mine goes to school in Chicago I have been to a few concerts in Chicago and had a great time every time, this law does nothing but stifle and make it harder to access your own creative side
1304. Andrew Emil | May 12, 2008 at 2:43 pm
Bad idea in a city that is already know as The Second City. I don’t want to be known as the Third, Fourth, or Fifth City. This is stupid and everybody knows it.
1305. Pete Murphy | May 12, 2008 at 2:44 pm
This is a bunch of crap, I love Chicago, but this is just another one of their many ways of sucking the cash right out of anyone they can. This cannot happen. Whoever came up with this idea needs to be run out of Illinois!
1306. Adam Haus | May 12, 2008 at 2:44 pm
There are ample ordinances/laws already on the books to make venues of all sizes safe for patrons; we don’t need another burdensome ordinance that will surely decrease the availability of live music in Chicago.
Live, local music is one of the distinctive things about the city, and it’s endangered enough as it is. Please vote No on this ordinance!
1307. Keith Vlk | May 12, 2008 at 2:44 pm
Being apart of the music scene for the better part of 10 years has taught me so much. This ordinance is just en excuse for the city to make more money. Stop taking advantage of people just trying to live out a dream.
Keith Vlk
vlk.carbonmade.com
1308. Lauren Kohl | May 12, 2008 at 2:44 pm
You might as well Kiss chicago goodbye. what would make us unique if not for our music styles? We’re praised everywhere for making such unique music, and producing thousands of artists, and bands that travel globally. Why would you want to stifle that?
1309. Sarah H | May 12, 2008 at 2:44 pm
I moved to Chicao 3 years ago because I was so attracted to the strong cultural scene it had to offer. An ordinance such as this will do nothing but hamper this city’s amazing musical offerings. This will only discourage people from visiting and moving to Chicago in the future!
1310. Paul Garcia | May 12, 2008 at 2:45 pm
This new ordinanace would kill the vibrant music scene Chicago has and would only serve to richen the City’s already abundant funds. This must not pass.
1311. Angela Papaleo | May 12, 2008 at 2:45 pm
CEASE AND DESIST! Shame on you, you useless aldermen for your time-wasting and rage-enducing ordinances.
If you pass this legislation, you can kiss the Olympics AND artistic expression goodbye.
1312. Tony G | May 12, 2008 at 2:45 pm
Vote No!
1313. Timothy Ilg | May 12, 2008 at 2:45 pm
Freedom of expression. This ordinance is simply unconstitutional.
1314. Gabriel Kasperek | May 12, 2008 at 2:45 pm
Traveling in Europe it’s so great to see many of the live musical events that really make a city attractive. Compared to some cities on the European continent, I thought Chicago never had enough events. Now hearing about this new ordinance I’m shocked that they are trying to make it more difficult. Sorry to hear that this is acceptable by the City Council.
1315. Cory West | May 12, 2008 at 2:45 pm
Chicago needs it’s music. Plain and simple.
1316. Lj | May 12, 2008 at 2:45 pm
Let the censorship begin
1317. Chris Kozlowski | May 12, 2008 at 2:46 pm
This ordinance is awful. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE vote NO to the promoters ordinance — we, the people, are aware of this terrible attempt to stifle Chicago culture and music and we implore you to take action!!!
1318. Jeff Harris | May 12, 2008 at 2:46 pm
Make no mistake, this is about money. The City of Chicago prides itself on exploiting the people with the highest taxes in the country and over-priced fines that are near impossible to appeal. If fact, you have to pay to appeal tickets making protesting violations a mute point. The City doesn’t believe this ordinance will harm the Chicago arts community because they are blinded by dollar signs. Just as over-priced permits ran the film industry out of Chicago, this will do the same to the little guy, but Chicago politicians are so arrogant they think that we’ll be willing to pay anything to perform in their City. Their wrong. We can’t. If this ordinance is passed a mass exodus of artists from Chicago will occur, and the City will lose money because no one is buying these permits, and therefore no one is buying tickets, and if there is no reason to visit Chicago for the arts, other local businesses, i.e. the restaurant industry, will also be effected. Chicago used to be a major hub of corporate conventions, but over-priced permits have driven them away. If corporate America can’t afford Chicago, how can small, independent artists? The City’s bureaucrats are too concerned about making a quick buck to really see the damage their doing. Any politician who votes for this ordinance is irresponsible and inept. This democracy has become a monarchy, in which the rich believe they can take what-ever they wish from the people because we should thank them for allowing us to live in their City, but I charge that we, the people, own this City, and its about time these feudal lords start acting like public servants and start doing what is best for us, not them. What this City really needs is a Robin Hood.
1319. Laura Hawbaker | May 12, 2008 at 2:46 pm
What makes a city vibrant is the ecclectricity of its culture. It’s the difference between cities like New York and San Francisco and cities like Houston and Milwaukee. Chicago is an artistic, musical and cultural hub because of its vibrant indie and underground scene.
These musicians, artists, and theater troupes already have so many hurtles to overcome. By eliminating a smaller venue’s ability to book gigs by alternative acts and up-and-comers (some of the most innovative work is being done by “starving artist” types), officials will effectually water down one of the most appealing aspects of Chicago’s cultural scene.
1320. Fred Marsh | May 12, 2008 at 2:46 pm
This awful.
1321. Joe Price | May 12, 2008 at 2:46 pm
That is absolutely ridiculous. I agree this would completely stifle the music scene in Chicago.
I’m from St. Louis, but this would impact our music scene as well, with Chicago being one of the first “nonlocal” places bands play from St. L play, and we get a lot of bands from Chicago playing here.
1322. Jason | May 12, 2008 at 2:46 pm
Without a flourishing artistic community-cynicism, ignorance and arrogance abound. These are things which cripple any city, including its commerce-which is something this ordinance seeks to increase, but it is backwards thinking. The city that supports the artists-musicans, theatre makers and creates a win/win for all but to limit, restrict, regulate, charge and fine artistic projects/endeavours/gigs absolutely leads us to a lose/lose situation for everyone-artists, audience and businesses alike.
I say NO to this ordinance as an artist and Chicago resident.
1323. Martin Nutley | May 12, 2008 at 2:47 pm
This ordinance is totally unnecessary. Just enforce the current laws on the books. Small and legitimate music and performance venues should not have to bear the brunt of what happened at E2, which was over 5 years ago. Please vote NO on this ordinance.
1324. Adam Speck | May 12, 2008 at 2:47 pm
This is a horrible idea for the performing arts community on all levels. Chicago will be the demise of its own culture if this ordnance passes. I beg the folks of the city council to reconsider the manner, and its true consequences.
1325. Nathan Xander | May 12, 2008 at 2:47 pm
no no no no no no no no no no
man… i mean… i’d love to play at the auditorium theater. but i didn’t forsee that happening for another couple years…
i can’t think of another city that would ever dream of this being a good idea. three cheers for da mayor!
1326. Megan Carreon | May 12, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Small venues provide, not only a place for local bands to play without paying a fortune, but a place for many teens to hang out. This gives those bands the opportunity to be recognized and do what they love. These place keeps teens out of trouble and could inspire them as muscians.
1327. Brady Novak | May 12, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Chicago is a fantastic place to start out as a comedian, band, or actor because of its small venues. If this ordinance goes through those venues would be greatly hurt and performers would have to look to other cities to spend their money.
1328. Marie O'Brien | May 12, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Another vote against this ordinance by a longtime Chicagoan. I ask the city Council to rethink this and listen to the voices of the people.
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1330. DAVID PAINTER | May 12, 2008 at 2:49 pm
NO NO NO DONT DO IT
1331. Scott Herron | May 12, 2008 at 2:49 pm
This ordinance sounds a tad politically motivated to me? The question I have is who feels threatened enough by people who are out there merely living a life that they feel passionate about to try to quash such efforts. Talk about truly driving the comedy (and other artistic) outlet(s) underground!! C’mon Chicago! Recognize where a large portion of your history lays. I VOTE NO to charging these ridiculous fees!
1332. Kate Pohl | May 12, 2008 at 2:49 pm
This is crazy. It reminds me of the freedoms taken away from people in Nazi Germany prior to the holocaust. Is this where we’re headed? Please don’t pass this.
1333. michael mencke | May 12, 2008 at 2:49 pm
How can they not see that this will drive more people to illegal venues that could be unsafe? Have they forgotten about the problems they had with raves?
1334. Leigh | May 12, 2008 at 2:49 pm
save the music
1335. daon hufnus | May 12, 2008 at 2:50 pm
good luck passing this one you crazy chicago nazis! you’re going to lose big time. if you’re looking to fuck someone start by going and fucking yourselves.
peace, art, music and love!
1336. Nick Eisner | May 12, 2008 at 2:50 pm
As a musician and self-promoter for my band, I see this only as a means to exclude local music from emerging onto the thriving Chicago music scene. It’s hard enough to find all-ages shows for bands that can create wonderful music yet don’t make the 21+ cut, but now this kind of legislation would effectively trample on all the effort local bands put forth to have their music heard. This is an abomination of government. Period.
1337. jonathan bukiewicz | May 12, 2008 at 2:50 pm
this ordinance would harm a music scene that is already straining against a weakened economy. SAVE LIVE INDEPENDENT MUSIC IN CHICAGO!
1338. Linda Lywitzki | May 12, 2008 at 2:50 pm
I am shocked that the City of Chicago would even propose such a ill thought out ordinance instead of acutally trying to figure out a better way to prevent underground promotions with out hurting the legitimate small music venues that help make Chicago’s music scene so great and help promotes tourism in this city.
1339. Alec Pinkston | May 12, 2008 at 2:50 pm
This is absolutely ridiculous.
1340. Hannah Martens | May 12, 2008 at 2:51 pm
This is absolutely ridiculous. As so many have stated, one of the best parts of Chicago culture is the many different music venues around the city and the opportunity that these smaller venues give to both musicians and fans alike to experience a wide variety of live music. How can indepent musicians expect to survive in Chicago if this ordinance passes?? My vote is NO, NO a THOUSAND times NO!!
1341. Eugene McIntosh | May 12, 2008 at 2:51 pm
If it aint one thing its another!!!!! NOT THIS TIME!
1342. Bryan Bowden | May 12, 2008 at 2:51 pm
There needs to be some massive reconsideration of this law. This law would not only kill Chicago culture, but take business away from the bars and restaurants that surround performance venues. That would mean lost jobs and taxes for Chicago during a time of recession.
1343. shawn martin | May 12, 2008 at 2:51 pm
What!? No way. Absolutely not! This is ridiculous.
One of the top reasons I LOVE living in Chicago is because of the music scene. The small venues. The local shows.
If this goes through…its just very sad. For some people their music is a way of life. It IS their life.
Crazy. This just made me sick to my stomach.
1344. Joseph Waked | May 12, 2008 at 2:51 pm
This ordinance will serve as discouragement for small time commerce and a hinderance to the fine arts scene.
1345. Dominick C. | May 12, 2008 at 2:52 pm
This is just another example of how full of $&%# the people in charge can be. They always puff out their chests and proclaim all the things this city has to be proud of, one of those is always the blues. I wonder if KoKo Taylor and Buddy Guy and countless other blues greats that formed the movement here would have been able to perform if they would have had to pay this rediculous price. This will lead to nothing beneficial for the city, only for the people in city hall deepening their pockets, who care only about being power and would just as well live in New York or Las Vegas. They don’t care about us, and this is a prime example of the continued attempt to turn one of the most unique cities in the world into a giant shopping mall.
1346. Brenda Fischer | May 12, 2008 at 2:52 pm
The type of venues that would be affected by this ridiculous ordinance are the crux of what makes the Chicago music scene what it is. VOTE NO!
1347. Lisa Kueng | May 12, 2008 at 2:52 pm
Don’t pass this ordinance- let Chicago keep its culture!
1348. Jason Coffman | May 12, 2008 at 2:52 pm
This is absolutely insane. I can’t imagine why the city would want to force the cultural landscape to suddenly resemble that of a rural town in the Appalachians. Killing off small venues would wipe out 90+% of the cultural events going on in Chicago at any given time! This ordinance is utter foolishness.
1349. Scott Hoffman | May 12, 2008 at 2:53 pm
This would be a terrible blow to the Chicago music scene, and a completely unnecessary one at that.
1350. Mark Oster | May 12, 2008 at 2:53 pm
Chicago’s live music scene drives the culture in this community. This ordinance will essentially stab that scene in the neck and chase it to the underground. So, aside from being tremendously misguided, it would also be doomed to failure. As a lifelong music fan and Chicagoan, I can give you my personal guarantee on this. Basically, nobody wins with this. Don’t be stupid. I will personally never vote for anybody who supports this ordinance, and will make sure a list of the names of aldermen who do are circulated.
1351. Chris Peditto | May 12, 2008 at 2:53 pm
No thanks! Say no to the honky death culture.
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1353. Sherry D'Agostino | May 12, 2008 at 2:54 pm
PLEASE….. !!! Can the city possibily stop stifling the creative culture, the business owners, and the general public??? I am absolutely against this ordinance.
1354. NO | May 12, 2008 at 2:54 pm
Not possible! There are things you can simply not do! Live-orginal-music and Chicago just go together. That’s one of the reason why Chicago is internationally acclaimed. I know what I’m talking about, I’m from Europe/France! Please do not touch one of the most beautiful gift of this great city!
1355. Devin Landau | May 12, 2008 at 2:54 pm
please dont pass this!
chicago wouldn’t be the same, and it would discourage young promoters like myself from doing the things that i love.
doesnt sound good
1356. Aaron Ritter | May 12, 2008 at 2:54 pm
I oppose this new legislation and hope that enough people can mobilize to urge the city council to reconsider their position. I send my support from the road.
1357. B.T. Owens | May 12, 2008 at 2:54 pm
Why don’t they ever slow down
Their laws are all over this town
the reputation is sweeping the nation
the ordanance is draging me down.
1358. Jillian | May 12, 2008 at 2:54 pm
This ordinance seems to do nothing but destroy some of the best performance places/ talent from performing. Keeping the artist from being artist. Makes me furious!
1359. Patrick NWI | May 12, 2008 at 2:54 pm
Chicago with no venues? thats not right. some of the best shows ive been to have been in chicago. i also know of people and junkies getting off the street, and found a scene that made them feel welcome and got off drugs. those venues that will get shut down. will just cause people not to have anything to look forward to. no shows. better weekend enjoying good music… will just let people get bored, and possible be more crime. i dont know. what ever the city is doing to the venues / promoters to a full extend is rediculous.
1360. Sue Fink | May 12, 2008 at 2:54 pm
This is, in part, what I sent via e-mail to Alderman Schulter:
…. I must request that you vote NO on the ordinance, for the following reasons:
1. As currently worded, the vagueness of certain descriptions would most likely have a negative impact on the smaller venues who can least afford it.
2. Current laws exist that promote safety at events; if these laws are enforced, there really is no need for this additional ordinance.
3. A large part of the outrage for this ordinance is due to promoters having to secure as much as $300,000 in liability insurance per event — when they are not responsible for security, the venues are responsible — and be at least 21 years old, and be fingerprinted, and have to pay a $500 – $2,000 licensing fee every two years.
Age restriction: is this even legal? Isn’t the legal working age 16? Why should a young and ambitious promoter not be allowed to work in Chicago?
Fingerprinting: Why is this necessary? If a VENUE wants to fingerprint an employee, that’s their business; but the city of Chicago isn’t paying the promoter; the promoter is not a City employee; I can see no reason for this, nor a background check, unless the promoter is a direct employee of the City. How can such a demand be legal?
Licensing fee: If a promoter lived in the city, and *only* booked within the city, I suppose the fee would feel less repugnant; however, many promoters book small bands at small venues on a national basis, and don’t make a heck of a lot of money doing so — especially when they are just starting out.
If a promoter who doesn’t have high earnings has the choice between booking bands in a city that charges fees vs. cities that do NOT charge fees, obviously the promoter will choose the latter.
Also, if other cities decide to start charging this type of fee as well, most small promoters will go out of business — they simply will not be able to afford a $500 fee here, a $1,000 fee there, etc., when they are only pulling in tens, or (if they’re lucky) hundreds, of dollars.
And even if the promoter tries to “recoup” these losses by charging the venues for these fees — well, most small venues can’t afford $500 – $2,000 fees for multiple promoters, so they’d have to say no. Heck, most of the smaller venues can’t even afford to pay the bands!
The result: Soon promoters would avoid booking smaller bands in Chicago; venues wouldn’t book lesser-known bands; and the music would move elsewhere. THIS is the fear that we musicians share.
I’m sure this cannot be the intent of the ordinance. In fact, I’m pretty sure that our fair city was just simply trying to capitalize financially on a perceived opportunity to make our venues “more safe.” I’m certain that had the City taken in the view of musicians, small venues, and promoters, they would have realized the potential pitfalls of the proposed ordinance.
If the City REALLY wants to know who the promoters are, for safety reasons — instead of for the suspected reason of capitalizing financially — all the ordinance would have to request is that venue operators keep *written records* of the promoters’ names, addresses, phone numbers, etc. If the venues themselves want to attempt to hold promoters financially liable for potential disasters, that is their business — not the City’s.
I strongly urge you, Alderman Schulter, to consider these points. Please do the right thing by voting NO to this ordinance.
Thank you for your consideration.
1361. Andrew Waterman | May 12, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Let’s not let Chicago become another generic midwestern city.
1362. Jackie Wolk | May 12, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Yep. Go ahead, Chicago. Keep slamming those doors of opportunity in the face of your musicians and artists. You’ll still get your revenue from the American Girl Place players, or from United Center during the next Rolling Stones tour. When your credibility as a world-class city goes in the toilet, though, don’t come crying to us.
Meanwhile, we’ll do what we’ve always done in the presence of adversity: make art, theater and music at underground venues. That little slice of the pie you’re forfeiting is a veritable feast to us. It’s not like this ordinance is going to stop the community anyway.
1363. Pam Dickler | May 12, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Chicago’s small theater/music venues help make our city vibrant and exciting, which benefits Chicagoans and tourists alike. I look forward to the day that we set the precedent of seeking new ways to support the survival of such cultural treasures. Just imagine our city without these spaces, because that is the road we are on if this blanket ordinance is passed. Let’s help keep Chicago’s local theater/music scene alive and well, as it is one of the true heartbeats of our city.
Pam Dickler
Producing Director
DBA Studios
1364. Andrew Ward | May 12, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Brilliant! Take away what made Chicago what it is. I hear Wisconsin has a nice underground music scene.
1365. Sylvie Sadarnac | May 12, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Doesn’t the City Council have better things to do than squelch the little guys? Let’s focus on real problems, people. Vote against this ordinance and move on.
1366. Tina | May 12, 2008 at 2:56 pm
Chicago is music. This ordinance would greatly hinder the small artists. There must be another alternative!
1367. Patrick NWI | May 12, 2008 at 2:56 pm
is chicago poor.. and trying to find excuses to get money…?
1368. Dago | May 12, 2008 at 2:56 pm
What is happening to Chicago? Have we gotten rid of commen sense altogether? Might as well forget about the Olympics.
1369. O. MOSENDZ | May 12, 2008 at 2:56 pm
REDICULOUS – stop the ordinance immediately!!!
1370. Katie Garza | May 12, 2008 at 2:56 pm
this is absolutely rediculous. Without the Chicago music scene, I would not be the same person, nor would I have half of the friends that I have. Taking the music scene and culture would be like ripping out a part of me. Chicago is known for the culture and creativity! WHY TAKE IT AWAY?
1371. Jackie Schneider | May 12, 2008 at 2:57 pm
Don’t kill our local music scene! VOTE NO!
1372. Rebecca Dorff | May 12, 2008 at 2:57 pm
CHICAGO, YOU CAN”T DO THIS!!! the city is getting more boring by the minute, this will crush any character that it ever had.
PLEASE DON’T DO THIS.
1373. Le Sprite | May 12, 2008 at 2:57 pm
I had my suspicions that Chicago was slowly turning into a giant, douchey, overpriced sports bar…
but I never thought they would go THIS far.
Protest is NOT optional, this time. We need to fight back.
1374. Bekki Anderson | May 12, 2008 at 2:57 pm
I agree with this comment from above:
OPPOSE!!
Please listen to the voice of your community.
This is a case of throwing the baby out with the bathwater. We all want safe events in licensed venues, but this is a ridiculously vague law that punishes upstanding venues, promoters and musicians for the sins of a few.
1375. Darren DeWitt | May 12, 2008 at 2:58 pm
I am a member of da Cornetto Opera company, Chicago’s ONLY concert opera company. I know how strapped the company is for funds as it is…this bill would be the nail in the coffin for us, and so many other small performance groups. I moved to this city because of the multitude of perforamce venues and opportunities. If this bill were to pass, I would most likely be looking for a new city to call home.
1376. Lana Poskin | May 12, 2008 at 2:58 pm
I am absolutely appalled. This proposal should NOT be passed.
1377. Liz WIlliams | May 12, 2008 at 2:58 pm
This is ridiclous. I grew up seeing my favorite not so big time bands in Chicago and still do to this day. If this passes Chicago’s music scene will be destroyed. All we will have is big names that can afford to play and $50.00 tickets to us. This is a disgrace.
1378. Beth Elder | May 12, 2008 at 2:58 pm
This ordinance is too restrictive to small, independent groups. Think of another way to insure safe venues. Do not pass this ordinance.
1379. Jennifer Swanson | May 12, 2008 at 2:58 pm
This new legislation seems a bit underhanded, and in the larger picture, pointless. The underground creative music scene should not be stifled more than it already is.
1380. Andy | May 12, 2008 at 2:59 pm
I hope this is does not happen! Music in Chicago and small venues is the best time out in the city. Fight The Power! Don’t let this happen….. plus how are all the homeless guys gonna make a living if they can’t sell tickets outside the Metro and Vic?
1381. Pedro Castro | May 12, 2008 at 2:59 pm
PLEASE READ.
Protest? 1pm? City Hall? Tomorrow? Can this work?
1382. Aron Fischer | May 12, 2008 at 2:59 pm
absolutely ridiculous. Chicago strongest allure is it’s thriving arts and music scene. Don’t kill that off!
1383. Pedro Castro | May 12, 2008 at 3:00 pm
please read.
rally at City Hall? tomorrow? 1pm? Could that work?
1384. howard bunch | May 12, 2008 at 3:00 pm
This should not happen Let the people play. This is ridiculous what you are doing. If you do this, I cannot come to Chicago and listen to the new music. You are destoying tourism. Howard Bunch
1385. Chris Gillock | May 12, 2008 at 3:00 pm
This ordinance is wrong-headed and will destroy the blues scene in Chicago! As a part-time blues musician and a full-time blues fan, i will see most, if not all, of my favorite venues shut down. I find it hard to believe that the alderpersons really want to kill off blues, jazz, indie rock, hip hop and all the other exciting live music events that occur at Chicago’s small venues every night! This has to be a case of unintended consequences. STOP THIS MISTAKE BEFORE IT HAPPENS!!!
Chris Gillock (aka Mr. G, Mr G & the Mystery Band)
1386. DM | May 12, 2008 at 3:00 pm
There is no sense in this at all. It only strips diversity, culture and vitality from an amazing city bursting with it. Why would anyone want to suppress it? Vote NO.
1387. Kornelija L. | May 12, 2008 at 3:00 pm
This is going too far. We let them control a big portion of our “freedoms” with their laws. Cell phone usage, driving after a certain time, smoking in public, etc.
THIS is unaxeptable.
THEY CANNOT TOUCH OUR MUSIC.
No way, it wont happen.
Music is the only true freedom we have left folks. Art in all is dying and this deffinitely will quicken the process of total control. It’s rediculous.
1388. Glen Fillion | May 12, 2008 at 3:01 pm
Another naked grab for “revenue enhancement” by the bankrupt Chicago City Council, When all tax sources are overstretched and taxpayers are fed up, then they attack the creative community. What a sad day for Chicago if this were to pass under the radar. I say “NO!” Let this hard-working city of the “big shoulders” have the freedom to entertain itself without city hall interfering.
1389. Chris Schultz | May 12, 2008 at 3:01 pm
VOTE NO! They will not win we WE will fight them! They will not destroy our music scene!
1390. DJ High Jack | May 12, 2008 at 3:01 pm
i am comletely against this ordinance. one like this went into affect in Charlotte, NC back in 2001 or so and the underground art/dancemusic scene went to shit. i oppose this ordinance and anything related to it.
1391. danny nelms | May 12, 2008 at 3:01 pm
as a fan of many local bands and a local artist for a few years .. this will cripple the rich music scene the city has and drive away classic venues with deep musical history such as the metro and the vic. i show my support to stop this law and pray the day never comes where it would be passed
1392. Jon Krusell | May 12, 2008 at 3:01 pm
This should no be passed.
Call your alderman to make your opinion known
go to http://civicfootprint.org/
1393. emily schwartz | May 12, 2008 at 3:02 pm
Jaw droppingly stupid and highly detrimental to the city at large. VOTE NO!
1394. Mike Davis | May 12, 2008 at 3:02 pm
Please don’t let this happen to Chicago.
1395. Arlene Bardelle | May 12, 2008 at 3:02 pm
I’m a vocalist in Chicago and play at many of the small venues of Chicago. Please save the tremendous diversity and musical culture of this great city and do not pass this ordinance. Thank you.
1396. Jane D | May 12, 2008 at 3:02 pm
My husband is a musician and we live in Chicago. Consider my name on the list!
1397. Chicago Music | May 12, 2008 at 3:02 pm
Check this email i got from one of my Artists in california
The same is beginning to happen in California. It’s started in a city called San Jose where in order for a promoter to conduct business, they have to get a special permit from the chief of police at city hall which is ridiculous. They also get to inspect your books quarterly to find out how much money you make whether you profit or lose money.
The same goes for performers, they have to get permits in order to get booked into live venues whether inside or outside.
I will defineately sign this petition
Its not just in chicago its US wide.
1398. Elyse Reardon | May 12, 2008 at 3:02 pm
As a musician and former resident of Chicago (it will always be home to me), I am deeply saddened that this ordinance would even be considered. I’ve moved around a bit, but there’s no place like Chicago for indie plays, music, and art. Never have I opened up another Reader or local weekly and seen so many great performances or openings, with tickets often less than the price of a movie.
This ordinance would kill all that and bring shame to the town. Gentrification has pushed so many artists and performance venues further and further from the heart of where it began. It is incredibly disheartening that this would be encouraged to begin with, but this ordinance would shut down virtually all alternative and even larger venue performances.
Please do not throw away the heart and soul of my favorite city. It ain’t called windy because of the weather, but because of the profound love its natives have for it!!!
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1400. Theresa Drda | May 12, 2008 at 3:03 pm
This ordinance seems to suggest that the City of Chicago is willing to cut off its head to spite its nose.
What is the rationale for such a potentially destructive action?
I live in a suburb north of Chicago. I’m involved in the local (primarily Chicago) music scene as a musician and patron. I drive into Chicago to perform, and to experience music at small venues. I spend money on food, drink and merchandise. Friends invite me to their shows and friends come to my shows. We all spend money.
And the city wants to stifle this kind of activity? I must be missing something.
…… there’s always the suburbs … which might just be happy to make room for the arts, culture and economic activity that Chicago apparently fails to value.
But what ridiculous shame it would be.
1401. Jeffrey Libersher | May 12, 2008 at 3:03 pm
Where does it end?
1402. Tony Rielage | May 12, 2008 at 3:03 pm
This will demolish hundreds of small theater companies in Chicago, if I’m reading it correctly (it reads so incoherently- does this just apply to “special events”? and what constitutes such an event?). This absurd law will make it near impossible for smaller companies to continue to exist- our budgets are tight enough as it is.
This will leave the cultural options in this great city, which drew me and most of the people I know from all corners of the country, at little more than the big downtown musicals and the like.
1403. jason leland bailey | May 12, 2008 at 3:03 pm
as a musician in the chicago scene this ordinance can not be passed! chicago without music is like chicago without the cubs or the bulls!
whats next if this passes? no sports, or big event in the park!
its is outrageous!
our voices will be heard!!!
1404. Gerry Field | May 12, 2008 at 3:03 pm
Who could support such a ridiculous ordinance? Who would benefit from it? Not Chicago and most members of the arts community. This would mark the beginning of the end for any development of our musical and theater culture in Chicago. I’d like to know who has the nerve to present this as a viable option and if anyone really thinks it makes sense. Perhaps somebody thinks we should just outsource actors and musicians. It could save alot of money. Or we’ll all have to start performing on the streets of Chicago. … Please vote NO!
1405. Carlos Ramos | May 12, 2008 at 3:04 pm
This ordinance is a complete outrage! The music scene is struggling enough as it is, however for the ones who are still involved in it, it means the world to us. It’s bad enough that kids these days aren’t being introduced to art and music, but now the city wants to eliminate it completely? That’s ridiculous. I’m whole-heartedly against this ordincance.
::Carlos::
1406. Todd Desper - DJ Destiny | May 12, 2008 at 3:04 pm
One of the foundations which this country was founded on, was freedom of speech, and as a DJ, and lifelong music fan, that freedom to play music, express ourselves through music and gather to listen to music, should never come at a price so high, that it would cost us our ability to enjoy the essence of music itself.
- DJ Destiny
1407. Jan Viscum | May 12, 2008 at 3:04 pm
This ordinance is unnecessary and will only hurt the art community in Chicago. Don’t take our music away by making it to costly for acts to play Chicago!
1408. Harlan Terson | May 12, 2008 at 3:05 pm
Let’s not make it more difficult than it already is to promote and perform music in Chicago.
1409. Christopher Foss | May 12, 2008 at 3:05 pm
As a member of the music community for the last 27 years of my young life, you come to realize that there are some parts of life that one cannot live without. Music and art are forms of expression and imagination, that can cause other people to feel things they never dreamed of, to be creative and imaginative themselves, to be individuals. Chicago has been a breeding ground for thousands of said artists and musicians for many, many years, for something of this magnitude to be set in to effect would truly halt one of the most beautiful aspects of the city. Chicago, as well as it’s surrounding areas, could not live through this travesty. Chicago’s music must live on….
1410. Jessica Seibert | May 12, 2008 at 3:05 pm
This is absolutely ridiculous. why would someone want to pass this? It doesn’t make any sense to me. i dont come to chicago often but when i do i like coming to the smaller places, and smaller clubs are not going to have the money to pay for this dumb insurance and will have to close…we talk about how the economy is bad now…we are putting our own city into the current situation.
1411. Myopenbar.com | May 12, 2008 at 3:05 pm
We are horrified at the thought of this passing, and will be publicizing this in our weekly newsletter at Myopenbar.com.
POWER TO THE PEOPLE!
1412. mis park | May 12, 2008 at 3:05 pm
chicago’s quality of life would suffer greatly if its creative talent were strongly discouraged from providing art and culture. is our city budget so imbalanced that we have to charge artists to express themselves?!
1413. Susan Wingerter | May 12, 2008 at 3:06 pm
Please, please, please stop this ordinance from becoming law. So many talented local theatre companies, artists and musicians don’t often perform in venues of 500 seats or more, can’t carry that hefty amount of liability insurance and usually have a budget of $500 for the ENTIRE SHOW.
Artists from all over the world have come to Chicago for decades to express themselves, to collaborate and exchange ideas, and to be a part of a culture that continues to thrive and create. If this passes, it will all be gone.
1414. Ricky Rangel | May 12, 2008 at 3:06 pm
I think that this is just ridiculous……dont take what chicago is all about.
1415. Cisley McPhail | May 12, 2008 at 3:06 pm
I disapprove. Please add my name to your petition.
1416. howard bunch | May 12, 2008 at 3:06 pm
You cannot possibly think this is a good idea. You will shut down all the great groups that play, thus realizing revenue for the city throgh their drinkpurchases and food purchases. Get a life. Stop taxing every damn thing!~
1417. Stephen Schmidt | May 12, 2008 at 3:07 pm
This is utter folly and will surely end up hurting this city’s vibrancy and economy in a miriad of ways. Absolute idiocy.
1418. Dan Coha | May 12, 2008 at 3:07 pm
The city has enough safety who should be doing their job.
It is not necessary to use them to hide behind a phony $500 tax.
1419. meagan | May 12, 2008 at 3:07 pm
please don’t pass this ordinance. one of the things i love the most about this city is the amount of great live music that comes here. chicago would have a huge empty void without it.
1420. jordan martins | May 12, 2008 at 3:08 pm
this is a horrible idea!
1421. Christopher Johnson | May 12, 2008 at 3:08 pm
Absoutely ludicrous.
City of Chicago, please find some other asinine way to make your money.
This would mean the complete and utter destruction of Chicago ‘nightlife’ as most know it.
Think I’m kidding?
How about NO choices about where to see CREATIVE, challenging music.
Instead, what we’ll have are a couple of mainstream, expensive, boring selections to choose from.
Let’s just turn Chicago into a bland, retirement community already.
I mean a rich, bland, retirement community.
1422. David Ammann | May 12, 2008 at 3:10 pm
Chicago is a unique, diverse and vibrant city – this seems like a good way to kill that.
1423. Stephen | May 12, 2008 at 3:10 pm
this would suck…
1424. Tim Konn | May 12, 2008 at 3:10 pm
This is one of the most preposterous things I’ve ever heard. Why doesn’t the City try spending its already high tax dollars responsibly instead of taxing its citizens needlessly to compensate for its fiscal irresponsibility and excessive spending? Chicago’s creative scene is the pulse of its nightlife and this attempt to regulate it with taxes and licenses will not only stifle the city’s artists, but it will also irreparably damage many businesses that support and host our artistic community. DO NOT PASS THIS LEGISLATION.
1425. Robert Fulks | May 12, 2008 at 3:11 pm
As a supporter of the ’small-time’ music scene, I can understand why it is they want to pass this kind of ordinance, but this isn’t the way to properly do it.
While this would help weed out the people who run shows knowing that it’s unsafe just to make a few extra bucks, the only people it’s really hurting are the unheard of bands; the ones that aren’t in this for the money.
1426. Seth Sher | May 12, 2008 at 3:11 pm
I have lived in Chicago for my entire life and have never been a fan of attending/playing shows at large venues. Its the small and DIY venues that keep Chicago’s music scene varied and interesting. As a show “promoter/performer” myself, the passing of this bill would mean the end of my lifelong dedication the city that bore me…and thats not what the city wants, is it?
1427. Your Little Ponies Street Team Commander | May 12, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Insanity. How many signatures are required? Thank you Theresa, Michael, and Michael.
1428. Chicago Music | May 12, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Just a update alot of my talent from the following networks signed the petition
chicagomusicpromotions.com
newmusicpromote.com
Also some other artists and djays are going to be sending out email blasts for people to come here and sign as well.
1429. Beth Iska | May 12, 2008 at 3:12 pm
This ordinance is a bad idea. Please add my name to the petition!
1430. Sandy Vosicky | May 12, 2008 at 3:12 pm
I cannot believe they would want to hinder the art community to such an extent. Mark me down as being on the list!
1431. Beth Herndobler | May 12, 2008 at 3:12 pm
Chicago’s arts community is one of the greatest things about this city. The city would not be the same if small theaters, clubs and other independant venues were no longer operating. Please do not pass this ordinance.
1432. Jim | May 12, 2008 at 3:12 pm
Chicago,
You should do better research. Something like this happened in Seattle a couple years ago, and it was a really big mess. It was a total clusterfuck and a waste of time and money. You should put more time and effort into stopping crime and violence in this urban jungle we all share together and stop bugging people that are doing good for their neighborhoods/youth/creative outlet/recreation/etc.
1433. Joe Ingraffia | May 12, 2008 at 3:13 pm
Please don’t stop the music.
1434. Antoine Jackson | May 12, 2008 at 3:13 pm
live music has been a part of chicago’s culture for decades. to pass this ordinance would be to take everything chicago has left away.
1435. Lisa | May 12, 2008 at 3:13 pm
I oppose this ordinance! Give us a break with these stupid rules, please.
1436. brad smith | May 12, 2008 at 3:14 pm
Chicago is the second biggest city in the country and one of the best in the world as far as choice and variety. To pass this ordinance would kill what makes a city a city, and further, what makes it stand out from the rest. DO NOT pass this ordinance.
1437. Elizabeth Harmon | May 12, 2008 at 3:14 pm
What are we now, fascists?
Do the aldermen know anything about the people and events they’re trying to restrain with this? The ordinance is in response to the E2 incident, which was indeed a tragedy, but the City Council should look at enforcing current laws that would have prevented that disaster before they create new ones. Perhaps they don’t actually know much about current laws. Wouldn’t surprise me.
1438. brian Gingrich | May 12, 2008 at 3:14 pm
I understand the ordinance is being introduced by Gene Schulter, my Alderman……..shame on you, Gene. Surely you know better than this!
1439. Natalie | May 12, 2008 at 3:15 pm
there are so many more things that need to be taken care of and brought to peoples attention…this not being one of them… its rediculious…
1440. R. Mason | May 12, 2008 at 3:15 pm
Please hammer, don’t hurt us.
1441. Lindsay Stout | May 12, 2008 at 3:15 pm
Chicago is known for its music, how are you going to take that away from us. Not to mention, with out music what are the younger generations going to turn to for recreational fun…drugs!
1442. Antoine Jackson | May 12, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Live music has been a part of Chicago’s culture for decades. To pass this ordinance would be to rid Chicago of everything it has left.
1443. Kath Duffy | May 12, 2008 at 3:16 pm
CALL. YOUR. ALDER(WO)MAN. NOW!!!
I live in the 35th Ward and just spoke to Rey Colon’s office – the staffer told me they had started to receive many calls on this today, but that she hadn’t yet seen the alderman to ask his position on this ordinance. I told her that I would call back tomorrow to find out where he stands on it, and that I urge him to oppose it.
More important than posting your name on here – contact your ward office today to urge your alderman to oppose this. They need to hear from you directly.
1444. Susan | May 12, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Stop the ordinance!
1445. Nick Engleman | May 12, 2008 at 3:16 pm
I hope this doesn’t pass, Chicago’s music scene will suffer badly and it will be unfair to those who truely love music. Absolutley Ridiculous
1446. Lisa S | May 12, 2008 at 3:17 pm
Being a musician and a bartender, I weep for what this could mean for our grand Chicago neighborhood taverns. Our tradition of great music at surprising and hidden places keeps our city vibrant and hoppin. It keeps us individuals in an increasingly monopoly-laden society. Please don’t take that away from us.
1447. Amanda Gilmore | May 12, 2008 at 3:17 pm
I strongly oppose the ordinance. I am a fan of local music scene of Chicago and feel that a lot of the talent we see in Chicago will dissapear if an ordinance like this is passed. Musicians and promoters already don’t make a lot of money and more fees would even furthermore make an increased financial burden. Bands will seek out other cities to play in and Chicago will no longer be the city of the performing arts. Please do everything you can to stop this. I support the efforts of all who are involved.
Thank you,
Amanda Gilmore
1448. Alberto Moreno | May 12, 2008 at 3:17 pm
Please let me know if there is a chance to appear in person and have our voice heard. This will absolutely kill a market that is already crippled by the mainstream $ focus. It will actually drive the newer talent to surrounding smaller towns
1449. Greg Floyd | May 12, 2008 at 3:18 pm
As a local chicago musician and part time self promoter i find this ordinance to be outrageous. We gotta fight this! Undeground music must live on. Chicago needs it. Daley can’t suck all the life out of this city.
1450. Aaron Farmer | May 12, 2008 at 3:18 pm
This ridiculous ordinance is stifling the independent culture of a great city.
1451. David Wilhelm | May 12, 2008 at 3:19 pm
This thing needs to be stopped now.
I don’t know if anyone else already did this, but I started a Facebook group. So, for those of you who use that frequetly, by all means pass this around.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=21273196534
1452. Michael Karman | May 12, 2008 at 3:19 pm
Please stop this fall to a big brother state.
1453. Sarah Christoff | May 12, 2008 at 3:19 pm
This is insane. I can’t possibly think of why ANYONE would consider this an effective OR economically sound idea. The negative repercussions that would result from this are almost self-explanatory:the art and culture of Chicago will DIE. Oh yeah, and don’t forget about the BUSINESS lost.. it’s s all about money anyway, right?There will be no good effect from this ordinance. Please don’t let it pass!
1454. Rachel Senecal | May 12, 2008 at 3:19 pm
Contact your alderman today! Stop the ordinance!
1455. Michelle | May 12, 2008 at 3:19 pm
Please add my name to the list of those opposing this ordinance.
1456. Tim Dienes | May 12, 2008 at 3:20 pm
Not only will this ordinance hurt the artistic community, but it will damage the city and its reputation, as well.
Chicago has long been known as a culturally rich city on an international scale.
To stifle the creativity for which this city is known is not only outrageous, in and of itself, but to do it at a time when we are seeking international recognition in the form of the Olympic Games is pure cultural suicide.
And any gains that may be momentarily felt through these licenses,
will be lost through the closing of many of these venues.
1457. Hillary Bauer | May 12, 2008 at 3:20 pm
This cannot go through.
I am a music student in college living in and in love with Chicago.
I can say without a doubt that if it was not for our local music and venues such as the Metro, I would not be in love with our city, working here, living here, and going to school here.
We cannot let the idea of a law garnered to grabbing more money under a veneer of safety (something which it would ultimately do little to help) kill Chicago’s up and coming musical, theatrical, and artistic culture.
To pass it is to kill our heart.
1458. patty | May 12, 2008 at 3:20 pm
vote no
1459. Paul Czarnowski | May 12, 2008 at 3:20 pm
Do not pass this ordinance. Clubs must comply with several rules and laws just to have their doors open at a certain time; it is hard to believe that any city would want to put an entire industry in their city limits out of business, instead of just tax their revenue stream.
1460. Eric Nye | May 12, 2008 at 3:20 pm
This ordinance will stifle creativity. Many performers will stop performing because it is no longer financially feasible for them to perform or it will be too much of a hassle to jump through the hoops necessary to perform. There are already plenty of laws in place to govern over this.
1461. Joe Van Der Bosch | May 12, 2008 at 3:21 pm
The passage of this ordinance would be a great detriment to the culture of this great City. As we all know, Chicago is known as the Home of the Blues. The blues is an art form characterized by the performance of poor, working class musicians. Imagine the home of the blues banning the very essence of what makes the blues great. This is truly a terrible idea.
1462. K Lux | May 12, 2008 at 3:22 pm
One more nail in the coffin against booking more quality shows in smaller venues in this city. Many performers will just pass Chicago on by, when planning their tours. Horrible!
1463. Cody Huffman | May 12, 2008 at 3:22 pm
Please don’t allow this ordinance to pass. It will effectively put many many people (bands, clubs, touring professionals) out of business.
1464. Andrea Kaz | May 12, 2008 at 3:22 pm
Please do not pass. How many signatures are required?
1465. Lola | May 12, 2008 at 3:23 pm
This ordinance would suck the fun out of Chicago. I love the music scene here as do so many!
1466. Sam Dlugach | May 12, 2008 at 3:23 pm
This will decimate the livelihood of countless musicians and thespians who book and promote their own shows. It clearly penalizes independent artists who are the rock upon which the nightlife of any thriving metropolis is built. This is very foolish legislation that could destroy many small businesses (theaters, clubs, bars, coffee houses) that rely on such talent to bring in patrons.
1467. Jennifer Anne Buckley | May 12, 2008 at 3:23 pm
Pertaining to E2 (which is supposedly why this is happening)
according to the Chicago Tribune: “Months after the stampede, an independent panel that reviewed the disaster and emergency response concluded that inadequate city inspection procedures and lack of city agency coordination allowed the club to stay open months after a court ordered it shut.”
Where is this the fault of the promoter? The promoter doesn’t own the club, the promoter doesn’t own the keys. The promoter doesn’t take care of the venue daily. Why is “the promoter” given the blame and the rest in the city have to suffer for it?
Please don’t hold the MANY young entrepreneurs responsible FOR the unbelievably irresponsible actions of THE FEW.
1468. Cole | May 12, 2008 at 3:23 pm
This is crazy……
One of the best things about Chicago is the wide variety of shows you can see on any given night.
This better not pass!! It would be such a shame.
1469. Erin O'Brien | May 12, 2008 at 3:23 pm
There really seems to be no need for this law to be passed, not to mention that it creates more problems for up and coming musicians and artists who have it hard enough as it is.
1470. Nathalie Baranyk | May 12, 2008 at 3:23 pm
Please this can’t be true! I’m moving back to Chicago this summer. Live music is Key to the cultural wellness of Chicago, someone stop them!
1471. Nick Keenan | May 12, 2008 at 3:23 pm
I can think of nothing more damaging to this city’s chances for a successful Olympic proposal and event than a crippled arts and culture scene. This ordinance is misguided and amounts to a declaration of war on the arts. I can see the point that cultural institutions need to have greater infrastructure to handle accessibility and liability and safety. Resources should be diverted towards educating and developing these institutions, not arbitrarily shutting them down. Arts organizations create great value for the community with small budgets. They deserve our support, and they are at risk in this legislation.
This is no less than an unfunded mandate on cultural institutions, and if you think it isn’t poison to a city that thrives on its cultural roots, you’re kidding yourself. You might as well call this No Arts Institution Left Behind.
And if the ordinance passes before the public has had time to be informed, Chicago will once again have egg on its face as it shoots itself in the foot.
1472. Sarah C | May 12, 2008 at 3:24 pm
Absolutely ridiculous. I could not believe that I was hearing when I was being told about this stupid ordinance! Forget that!
1473. John Rooks | May 12, 2008 at 3:24 pm
This is an incredibly sloppily written ordinance that appears to be of questionable usefulness. This needless regulation will significantly stifle the local arts scene, especially on the small-scale where the costs of dealing with such regulation are prohibitive. It’s a terrible, poorly thought-out idea.
1474. Alissa | May 12, 2008 at 3:24 pm
Don’t do this, Chicago! We need more reasons for people to visit/live there, not less!
1475. Tim Armstrong | May 12, 2008 at 3:24 pm
Please Please Please do not pass this ordinance. It would mean sure death to small venues, bands, restaurants and many other livelyhoods. I have played in many bands in many clubs here in Chicago and that is what makes Chicago a great town. You can always find great music. And that’s not even mentioning theatre and other forms of the arts. What is the city thinking?
1476. Ricardo Martinez | May 12, 2008 at 3:25 pm
Please do not pass this ordinance!
1477. Rebecca Hunter | May 12, 2008 at 3:25 pm
Fringe cultural activities have always fed the larger, more centralized, commercially orientated productions and events. Think of what the Edinburgh Fringe Festival means to the Edinburgh Interational arts festival. They keep a city vital and its cultural expressions viable. Don’t quash the fringe, everybody will loose.
1478. Janet Grace | May 12, 2008 at 3:25 pm
While I don’t live in Chicago, I go there often to go see concerts. Please stop this ordinance. It would ruin the Chicago that I love.
1479. Ksenia Golikova | May 12, 2008 at 3:25 pm
this ordinance is an outrage! as we have freedom of speech the cultural treasures of the chicagoland have to remain sacred!!! people from all over the country come to the city to experience its liberating creativeness and inspirational spirit!!!! the trends
of art should be passed onto next generations {of intelligent and cultured individuals} not chaned by restrictions!!!
say NO!!! to this ordinance
1480. Elana Kranz | May 12, 2008 at 3:26 pm
This would be a devastating blow to the culture of Chicago that Mayor Daley pretends he works hard on cultivating. And why would venues with 500+ permanent seats be exempt?
“No” to the “Event Promoters” ordinance!
1481. mark Mountain | May 12, 2008 at 3:26 pm
Stop the money grubbing and allow Chicago to keep singing, dancing, acting and helping others in the best venues available-keep the venues as they are. Support our local upcoming talents and keep it affordable for all of us to enjoy!
1482. sebastien hue | May 12, 2008 at 3:26 pm
completely distasteful. how could a city of so much culture and art create such dreadful stipulation and a death of a beautiful art.
1483. Angie Muzzarelli | May 12, 2008 at 3:26 pm
I think that they shouldn’t even consider it! Music is a beautiful thing- a very important art. It touches everyone, every race, religion, color. Ya can’t take it away! They would look like fools! Take music away in a big city! HA! They thrive on it! What else is there to do? Dinner, drinks, and music- ya can’t have a better night, SERIOUSLY!
1484. Mike Zembala | May 12, 2008 at 3:27 pm
Chicago is known for doing many things against the peoples will… whats next??? The Chicago facists have done enough damage already, now they wanna rot Chicagos soul from within. FUCK CHICAGO and its totalitarian ways, lets migrate the culture to the suburbs of Cook and Lake county. At least over there there is no fear of ostracization. THIS IS THE LAST STRAW CHICAGO!!!
1485. joshua anderson | May 12, 2008 at 3:27 pm
to take this kind of action is wrong and to do it without public notice is complete treason against not only chicagos people but the people of the world how visit chicago. STOP THIS ORDIANCE IT IS SO WRONG…JOSHUA ANDERSON
1486. Marea Stamper | May 12, 2008 at 3:27 pm
To whom it may concern,
My name is Marea Stamper and I am the Managing Director of GrooveMedia Group. GrooveMedia is an event marketing firm, organizing branded events with our corporate partners around the country and especially in Chicago.
While I am a proud resident of Chicago and the 27th ward, I would like to express displeasure equal to that pride with respect to the lack of courtesy I experienced when I called the office of the 27th ward today. I politely telephoned on behalf of my company and our associates asking to make an appointment to speak with someone about the upcoming vote on the proposed “promoters ordinance.” I was passed to someone who informed me that the vote was on Wednesday and that I could find out the results of the vote after that. I explained that I had called on behalf of myself and other businesspersons to speak with someone in the office and register our position, the speaker said “OK, thank you,” and hung up the phone.
Now, past my obvious frustration with my failed telephone call of this afternoon, I ask you to consider one question: What would have happened to Second City if this ordinance had been in place in 1959?
The answer is: probably nowhere.
After reading through the whole of Chapter 4-157, Title IV of the Municipal Code of the City of Chicago, I am compelled to write this letter addressing the unfair provisions contained in the new “Event Promoter” chapter of the city ordinance. As a member of the Chicago business community I feel that if this is allowed to pass it will do more put venue owners, whom I depend upon, out of business than it will ever accomplish in curbing illegal and dangerous events held within the city limits. The tiny minority who choose to operate outside the law will continue to do so while professionals who are operating within the guidelines of the law at safe, licensed facilities will be unfairly penalized for not holding their events in buildings that happen to have more than 500 permanent seats.
This ordinance also states that anyone promoting any event drawing more than 100 people must obtain a license, even if they are working with a well-established and already licensed promoter. The capacity range for these licenses, as outlined in 4-5-010, is Class D ($500) for 100 people or less, Class C ($1,000) for 500 people or less, Class B ($1,500) for 2000 people with Class A ($2,000) being unrestricted. I feel that these capacity price ranges unfairly discriminate against smaller promotional companies and venues that are often at the heart of nightlife communities. For example, most places catering to dance music often only have seats in the form of barstools or booths, no matter how large the actual capacity of the building may be. While the biggest venues are those that are exempt from these stipulations, they are also the ones who should require the most insurance and policing, as they are the establishments catering to thousands to tens-of-thousands of people on any given night. The larger promoters and venues that are exempt from a law that would be effective in making their venues, patrons and employees safer are, in some cases, those that need the stipulations the most. Licensees would also have to carry at least $300,000 in commercial liability insurance which is another difficult hurdle for smaller promotional entities to overcome.
This will be a devastating blow to Chicago arts commerce if implemented, and also you’ll most likely see lots of bars go under that depend on local artists organizing and promoting events at their venues to keep business going. If these smaller venues and promotional companies are stifled by these unrealistic financial burdens, there won’t be any artists for the larger national agencies to book and promote. Even outside the realm of nightclubs and music venues, I believe that this will also have an extremely adverse effect on everything from comedy showcases, small theatrical productions, seminars, community organizations, youth programs, artist collectives, activist groups, to fund-raising benefits – basically any smaller cultural happening taking place within the city limits. In a time when the Chicago and national cultural scenes are being taken over by generic entities such as Clear Channel, the city cannot afford to pass legislation that further increases the already high financial difficulty of staging independent events. This will kill what cultural identity the city has left, rendering the landscape even more generic and monopolized than it is now.
The introduction of this new ordinance also overlooks the logistical requirements of enforcing such measures. It will be nearly impossible to effectively enforce this legislation. Are we to believe, that in the face of rising murder and crimes rates, an already taxed Chicago Police Department will have the appropriate resources to stroll into nightclubs every night of the week to ensure compliance? Those at whom this ordinance truly targets — underground promoters and illegal production companies — are going to violate the norms and conventions regardless of the laws on the books. What’s more, this legislation will actually have the effect of driving unlicensed, unsavory or outright dangerous promoters further underground, placing more lives at unnecessary risk and making police enforcement more difficult. It’s impossible to regulate those who have blatant disregard for public safety concerns through legislation, but this particular piece imposes an environment of fear and an additional level of needlessly complex rules on those who mindfully work to ensure compliance with public safety rules. The scope of this legislation is far too broad to have any real effect on the underground, illegal party racket – people who operate outside of the law anyway, and will continue to do so – and those people will continue to operate in the face of this ordinance the dozens of other bits of legislation passed against them in the past. If they failed to follow any of those ordinances, what makes you think they will follow this one?
This legislation places the onus on the promoter, but this is a burden that must be shared in conjunction with the venue. If a venue works with an unlicensed promoter, or does not provide adequate security or enforcement, it is the promoter who gets stuck with the fault. Venues already must be properly licensed with the city, but it is unfair to penalize the promoters who have no choice but to work with them for any violation that is beyond their control. It is a shared responsibility, but ultimately, venues control their own doors. Promoters cannot be held responsible if a venue, even a properly licensed one, skimps on security or fails to control their venue.
It was Mayor Daley who said, “It’s the whole idea of what a city should be: the appreciation of the artistic community. That’s the soul of a city.” This ordinance shows a complete disregard for the artistic community and appears to be drafted by people who are out of touch with those who love Chicago because of its thriving independent art and music scene. As a citizen of this city I am concerned for the future of its cultural climate and for good reason, as arbitrarily broad legislation such as this ordinance is robbing Chicago of its authentic artistic scene, paving the way for a homogenized version where one or two larger companies have a monopoly over the entire city due to the fact that they’re the only ones who can afford to jump through the hoops that destroyed their competitors.
Thank you for your time,
Marea Stamper
GrooveMedia Group
Managing Director & BDCG
phone +1 773.474.7918
fax +1 773.539. 8569
mobile +502.299.7679
Chicago, IL 60630
1487. Brad Vogelgesang | May 12, 2008 at 3:27 pm
This is nuts. Please don’t pass this.
1488. Michael Berner | May 12, 2008 at 3:27 pm
Please don’t allow this ordinance to pass.
Michael S. Berner
1489. Jim Grillo, CMP | May 12, 2008 at 3:28 pm
This city squeezes its potential sometimes. I happen to live in Lombard due to the high taxes in the city. I shop here, I buy gas here and I buy groceries here. I am downtown every day and I train downtown. Parking is too high. NOW I see that they want to tax the little guy again with this license. But, if I understand correctly, they wont require this for venues 500+. I oppose making bands and actors pay for this license just to hold a small event. What is the motive for doing so? In a time where this city is found on corruption and the city and state politicians are lining their pockets, I do not want to make our artists and small event producers (under 500 pax) pay for something like this as it will cut off the creativity and culture that Chicago really is and really has to offer. Cmon, please stop the nonsense and DO NOT pass this ordinance.
1490. Gabe Levinson | May 12, 2008 at 3:28 pm
I am an independent producer and promoter who resides in Lincoln Square. My company, Feather Goes Here, is devoted to producing and promoting unique, Chicago-exclusive events. We focus on producing and promoting independent film animation and literary events.
I do not think its a bad idea to be required to be licensed as an events promoter in the city; if you’re serious about your business, you should always take the necessary steps to establish yourself. Getting licensed and getting insurance for an event is not ludicrous; it protects the promoter and it protects the patrons of the event.
With that being said, I take unction with the following, quoted from the proposed ordinance:
Section 4-157-020, titled License-when required-exclusions:
(A) No person shall engage in the business of event promoter without first having obtained an event promoter license under this chapter.
(B) The following persons are not event promoters within the meaning of this chapter:
(7) the City of Chicago and its sister agencies
(8) any employee of the City of Chicago or its sister agencies, to the extent that the employee plans, prepares, or executes an amusement or event in the course of such employment
How is it that the City of Chicago is exempt from the very ordinance that they are proposing to enforce? When the City of Chicago has an event to promote (click here for a list of upcoming city-sponsored events) are they not also the promoters of the event? Or is the City of Chicago hiring third-party promoters, in which case, does this mean that if another tragedy like what happened at E2, were to occur, the city will not be held responsible; and instead it would be the third-party promoter?
If safety and liability are the main push of this ordinance, how is it that the very city enforcing this has found a way to not be held liable for their own events?
1491. Bob Rummage | May 12, 2008 at 3:28 pm
Please do not let this law pass. It’s hard enough already to earn a living in the arts. We don’t need any added burdens like this!
Bob Rummage
Professional musician/educator
1492. Dan Hardman | May 12, 2008 at 3:28 pm
any type of performance art should not be governed by the city, we as performers must take a stand, this can not pass we will not let it!
1493. Peter O | May 12, 2008 at 3:28 pm
We live in America where we have promised that those who work hard can make a life for themselves. We Can NOT allow this ordinance to pass as written, and therefore allow it to suffocate the great work of Chicago’s Artists. It is essential to the essence of any “Great” city to instead foster the culture of art, that which gives life to the concrete landscapes. More work needs to be done with the artistic community before such an ordinance even has a chance to go to vote.
1494. Graham | May 12, 2008 at 3:29 pm
This is extremely ridiculous.
Stop it.
1495. Paul Kapust | May 12, 2008 at 3:29 pm
I oppose this ordinance. What kind of BS is this.
1496. Josh Donelson | May 12, 2008 at 3:29 pm
Here we go again. The big wigs are finding more and more was to fuck everything up. If anyone from the NORTHWEST INDIANA area are seeing this comment you know cause this pairs with RDS GYM being closed down. This is just another way the government is trying to suck the money from those who try to do good. If this is passed then whats next? Soon enough people will have to pay a covert charge to go to church.
1497. Scott Mohan | May 12, 2008 at 3:29 pm
I am appalled that legislation like this would even make it all the way to a vote. This is a prime example of the corporate agenda masked by public safety considerations. This would accelerate the homogenization and corporatization of Chicago’s historical culture.
1498. Happy Dave | May 12, 2008 at 3:29 pm
Entertainment venues, Bars, clubs, halls and comedy clubs already have to have this licensing and insurance.
Requiring small promoters to be licensed and insured would be double taxation. The large PROMOTERS make money off of sponsering and organizing events but what the city counsel doesn’t seem to realize is that most promoters make nothing off of small local band, comedy and other arts exhibitions. This ordiance WOULD DESTROY a vital part of Chicago’s Rich and Vital Cultural and artistic Mecca. We need to move forward as a City devoted to inspiring and PROMOTING the arts not diminishing it’s spirit.
1499. Chris Bragg | May 12, 2008 at 3:30 pm
This ordinance would also prevent sketch comedy groups such as ourselves from ever being able to produce shows in the city…productions we hardly make any money on. It would completely kill the Chicago sketch comedy scene. For people like us to continue doing what we love, we would have to do it elsewhere. If you want to drive away thousands of improvisers, sketch comedy artists, musicians, and artists, this would be a way to do it.
1500. John | May 12, 2008 at 3:30 pm
PLEASE do not let this ill-thought nonsense become law! Some of us performers are highly dependent on this sort of minimal income. I do NOT want to see Chicago become a place without live music or theatre!
1501. Scott Turner | May 12, 2008 at 3:30 pm
who needs small clubs like the metro anyways – its not like theres much history there. and only a few bands played there on their way to becoming huge successes in the industry.
oh wait…..
1502. geoffwilliams | May 12, 2008 at 3:30 pm
This ordinance sounds like the stupidest idea ever to hit a major city like Chicago. I honestly cannot see such a large metropolitan area like Chicago, known for it’s arts/entertainment, ever passing such a ordinance. As a preforming artist myself (musician) not only would I rarely every be able to play again, but it would hurt me financially as well, not to mention those working at these venues and their paychecks. I fully oppose this bill as should you if you care about art, performance, entertainment, and what it’s like to live in a city.
1503. James Yearnd III | May 12, 2008 at 3:30 pm
Live music in this city is one of the things that makes this city livable. Why the hell would anyone move here if there wasn’t a music\cultural scene?
1504. Amber Drea | May 12, 2008 at 3:31 pm
Small shows and venues put on by DIY promoters, artists and musicians are what make Chicago culture so unique. This ordinance would destroy it!
1505. lenny | May 12, 2008 at 3:32 pm
this law could be seen to have good intentions yet will produce tragic results if enacted. is the overall purpose to prevent another E2 or to stop raves (which have all but disappeared) or just to put more money in the city’s coffers??? as an avid music fan, in an increasingly troubled economic climate, this law would not only limit my entertainment options, but it would also certainly curtail avenues and revenues for all who benefit from Chicago’s diverse cultural community. Before voting on this ordinance, the city needs to evaluate both the spirit of this law and the letter of it. while good intentions may have created this, the passing and execution of this law will most certainly harm Chicago’s standing as a world class city. as it stands this law needs to be voted down. a better alternative could probably be reached through a discourse with promoters, artists, and patrons. unfortunately that notion just may be too democratic!
1506. Evett | May 12, 2008 at 3:32 pm
This is beyond ridiculous. As someone that has lived in Chicago her whole life and is in the music scene, going to numerous concerts, promoting or soon writing my own music, it would be devastating to see Chicago’s music culture get almost completely destroyed. All these small music venues, concerts, and events are things that make me love Chicago. It would be a shame to have people in the near future not to be able to experience the creative and unique music scene Chicago has to offer. This proposition is a horrible idea and shouldn’t even be considered.
1507. Adam | May 12, 2008 at 3:32 pm
Speaking as someone who grew up in Chicago and around the music and theater scene, if passed, this would help destroy one of the greatest cities in the world. Let it not happen.
1508. Chicago Music | May 12, 2008 at 3:32 pm
Ward Offices By Zone (District)
Be Sure to call your Alderman to Propose this Bill.
WARD 1
Ward Website: http://www.flores1stward.com
• Ward Office: 2058 N. Western Ave.
Chicago, IL 60647
• Ward Phone: 773/278-0101
• E-Mail: ward01@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 300 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-3063
WARD 2
Ward Office: 429 S. Dearborn St.
Chicago, IL 60605
• Ward Phone: 312.263.9273
• E-Mail: Robert.Fioretti@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 300 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone:312-744-6836
WARD 3
Ward Office: 5046 S. State St.
Chicago, IL 60609
• Ward Phone: 773-373-9273
• E-Mail: Pat.Dowell@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 300 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-8734
WARD 4
Ward Office: 4659 S. Cottage Grove
Suite 203 Chicago, IL 60653
• Ward Phone: 773-536-8103
• E-Mail: tpreckwinkle@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 300 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-2690
SO FOURTH – SO ON
Ward Office: 1900 E. 71st Street
Chicago, IL 60649
• Ward Phone: 773-324-5555
• E-Mail: lhairston@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 300 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-6832
Ward Office: 406 E. 75th Street
Chicago, IL 60619
• Ward Website: http://www.6thwardalderman.com
• Ward Phone: 773-846-7006
• E-Mail: flyle@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 300 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-6868
Ward Office: 7129 S. Yates Blvd. Chicago, IL 60649
• Ward Phone: 773-375-9180
• E-Mail: Sandi.Jackson@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St. Room 300 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-6833
Ward Office: 8539 S. Cottage Grove
Chicago, IL 60619
• Ward Phone: 773-874-3300
• E-Mail: mharris@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 207 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-3075
Ward Office: 34 East 112th Place
Chicago, IL 60628
• Ward Phone: 773-785-1100
• E-Mail: abeale@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 300 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-6838
Ward Office: 3522 E. 106th Street
Chicago, IL 60617
• Ward Phone: 773-721-1999
• E-Mail: jpope@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 300 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-3078
1509. Kaitlynn Veno | May 12, 2008 at 3:33 pm
To see the way the city is treating the culture of Chicago absolutly disgusts me. I, myself, am very passionate about the Chicago culture and will not stand by and let it be run into the ground. The theatre and music are main reasons people come to Chicago. This ordinance is completly useless in doing any good for the city. People today thrive on the cultural roots more then ever before. Passing this ordinance would be like taking away the purpose for Chicago’s existance.
1510. Genevieve McCloskey | May 12, 2008 at 3:33 pm
As a native Chicagoan and live visual artist who appreciates the culture, diversity and vibrancy of the Chicago scene (both underground and mainstream), this new ordinance will SUPPRESS Chicago’s culture, music, artists, independent promoters, entrepreneurs, non-profits, small venues, etc., and it will DISCOURAGE non-Chicagoan artists, musicians, etc from coming to our city. As a live artist, I realize that most of the events I took part in over the past couple years could not have occurred if this ordinance was in place. The fact that large venues are exempt is disgusting and shows exactly who this ordinance is targeting.
DON’T SUPPRESS CHICAGO CULTURE! WE WILL NOT STAND FOR THIS!
1511. Sara Mizener | May 12, 2008 at 3:33 pm
Live music is vital to Chicago!!! We have one of the best music scene—lets keep it that way
1512. joshua anderson | May 12, 2008 at 3:33 pm
to pass this type of ordiance is wrong and to do it with out public notice is treason on the people of chicago and the world! STOP THIS ORDIANCE FROM HAPPENING…JOSHUA ANDERSON
1513. Adam Welker | May 12, 2008 at 3:33 pm
I just moved to Chicago and would love to keep the small venues alive. Please don’t hurt the venues for helping out young artists.
1514. Jackie Kleck | May 12, 2008 at 3:33 pm
What a terrible proposition in the name of revenue. It would be nice to see all of the arts promoted to the hilt and the other issues such as overcrowding and such dealt with directly. It would be devasting to silence any community’s local music (arts) scene.
1515. Gabe McIntosh | May 12, 2008 at 3:33 pm
This horrible and a good way to ruin a city for travelers and the people who live here.
1516. Pamela Leonard | May 12, 2008 at 3:34 pm
Art is like Music, it is a must have especially here in Chi-town USA
1517. Nick McLenighan | May 12, 2008 at 3:34 pm
Im firmly apposed to this, not so much for those big name promoters and venues who can cover the costs, but for every small timer who is trying to get something done on his or her own. I also fear that something like this ordinance could lead to a hindrance of First Amendment rights, as well as general censorship. Other than those who cannot pay, who is going to be denied rights to promote/organize events? This ordinance is far to unclear, and possibly damaging to many peoples livelyhoods.
1518. Kerensa Peterson | May 12, 2008 at 3:34 pm
I love in Richard Mell’s district. I can’t believe he would support such a thing. Please add my name to the petition. Do not create an environment that makes it even more difficult to produce theatre than it already is by passing this bill into law.
1519. Chris Hollingsworth | May 12, 2008 at 3:34 pm
Being an artist, seeing the venues practically shut down would be a terrible thing to my fellow artists. If you close the venues, where will they express there form of art.
How many local Chicago bands got a chance to make it big because they played at the small venues that you are trying to essentially close. Most all bands that came out of chicago have played at at least The Metro, Beat Kitchen, Schubas, Double Door or Subterranean, if not all of them.
Passing this bill would be a terrible mistake and would kill the underground music scene in Chicago
1520. Rebecca Faber | May 12, 2008 at 3:34 pm
Please dont pass this!
1521. Marcus Turnbo | May 12, 2008 at 3:35 pm
As someone who is a part of Chicago’s music scene, I am glad that I was made aware of this prohibitive measure. We have to ensure that artistic endeavors are not stifled to the point where the only entertainment we are allowed to consume comes from corporations.
1522. Tango Karnitz | May 12, 2008 at 3:35 pm
Please don’t enact a ‘knee-jerk’ ordinance that will put the little man down, and expemt the establishment. Chicago needs to have venues for all audiences, and all sizes.
1523. Kevin White | May 12, 2008 at 3:35 pm
I don’t even live in Chicago and I don’t want this to happen! I am a comedian from St. Louis, MO and I rely on smaller venues to further my career when on the road. Chicago is one of the best cities in the country for entertainment and passing this law would only stifle that. Chicago, you’re better than this.
1524. Miles Arnay | May 12, 2008 at 3:36 pm
This is a devestating blow to the arts in Chicago just waiting to happen. Please, please reconsider.
1525. Gabe Levinson | May 12, 2008 at 3:36 pm
In addition, why are events promoted at venues with a fixed seating capacity of greater than 500 exempt? I have looked into producing and promoting shows at the Auditorium Theatre and the Chicago Theatre. I could never afford to produce a show there…so why is it that those who DO have the money to produce and promote shows at such large-scale venues are NOT held to this ordinance? Somehow the big fish, those with the funds to meet the requirements of this ordinance, are exempt. I find this exemption questionable.
1526. Dan Hopper | May 12, 2008 at 3:36 pm
I am not from Chicago, but my band has performed at several Chicago area venues throughout the past 7 years. It is a HUGE MISTAKE to pass this law.
Let me put it this way.
1) Do you want people to move away from Chicago because there is “Nothing to do”?
2) Do you want people – kids, teens, adults, etc… to turn to other forms of entertainment that may be destructive?
3) Do you want people involved in the arts to lose money, lose thier jobs, or lose there livelyhood so there are more people destitute and living on the streets?
4) Do you want people to turn to drugs, alcohol, violence, and other things because they have nothing to turn to for hope (music gives hope to a ton of people who have no hope)…
I could go on, but hopefully you get the picture. The people of Chicago need the arts, and the arts need them. Not only that, but passing this law would be technically unconstitutional because it would eliminate freedom of expression because such freedom would be unaffordable.
Bottom line, Chicago will screw itself by passing this law. Please, let your voice be heard people. There is power in numbers!! Please dont let a council of uninformed, uncaring, power-hungry douchebags ruin the arts in Chicago. Thats my two cents.
1527. Adam Harvey | May 12, 2008 at 3:37 pm
Although I live in Cleveland, I’ve been going to venues like the Double Door in Chicago for years. A friend of mine had his DIY venue shut down for similar reasons to the ordinance that Chicago is contemplating. Don’t do it! You’ll be doing more to destroy the excellent music culture that Chicago is renowned for by passing that ordinance than serving any other perceived civic need.
1528. Chicago Music | May 12, 2008 at 3:37 pm
WARD 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17.
I would suggest someone with good writing skills collect all the email address(s) from the last couple ward postings and send a bulk email to all of them to propose the ordinance.
Ward Office: 3659 S. Halsted St.
Chicago, IL 60609
• Ward Phone: 773-254-6677
• E-Mail: jbalcer@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 203 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-6663
• Ward Office: 2458 W. 38th St.
Chicago, IL 60632
• Ward Website: http://www.12thwardnews.com
• Ward Phone: 773/523-8250
• Ward Fax: 773/523-8440
• E-Mail: ward12@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 203 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-3040
• Ward Office: 6500 S. Pulaski Rd.
Chicago, IL s60629
• Ward Phone: 773-581-8000
• E-Mail: folivo@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 203 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-3076
• Ward Office: 2650 W. 51st Street
Chicago, IL 60632
• Ward Phone: 773-471-1414
• E-Mail: eburke@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 302 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-3380
• Ward Office: 3045 W. 63rd St.
Chicago, IL 60629
• Ward Phone: 773-863-0220
• E-Mail: Toni.Foulkes@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 203 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-6850
• Ward Office: 5335 S. Western Blvd.
Chicago, IL 60609
• Ward Phone: 773-434-3399
• Ward Fax:: 773-434-3889
• E-Mail: JoAnn.Thompson@cityofchicago.org
• Ciity Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 300 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-3069
• Ward Office: 7811 S. Racine Ave.
Chicago, IL 60620
• Ward Phone: 773-723-0908
• E-Mail: lrthomas@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 300 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-7738
• Ward Office: 8146 S. Kedzie
Chicago, IL 60652
• Ward Website:
City Of Chicago Website – 18th Ward
• Ward Phone: 773/471-1991
• E-Mail: ward18@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 300 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-6856
1529. TJ Kren | May 12, 2008 at 3:37 pm
Chicago underground is nothing without the metro, and the beat kitchen. please don’t pass this bill.
1530. Lisa | May 12, 2008 at 3:37 pm
This is ridiculous! This cannot pass. Think of all the smaller named bands who won’t be able to book shows! They don’t have the kind of money to book at huge arenas. They make their living playing shows at The Metro etc.
If this passes, so much new young talent will go to waste because they can’t get shows!
So much amazing talent has come out of Chicago, we cannot let that stop!
1531. Brian Niebuhr | May 12, 2008 at 3:38 pm
this legislation would effectively end the arts as ’small business’ entities – why?! all this ordinance would create is pay-to-play on a large, corporate-type scale, wiping us smaller-time musicians off the map. and we want to host the olympics, with no vibrant, homegrown arts scene? our olympic competitors wouldn’t dream of doing someting like this! it’s unthinkable and unenforceable. i guess the olympic money has to come from somewhere – the people who can afford to spend it the least, as the case always seems to be.
if you take the arts as seriously as you say you do, mayor daley, you’d see this legislation for what it is – a cash-grab. those who break the law vis a vis concert promotion will CONTINUE to do so anyways.
1532. annika s | May 12, 2008 at 3:38 pm
This ordinance is an insult to a city that has a long history of DIY culture, which in turn is rooted in a strong work ethic. This ordinance certainly won’t kill that, but it will make it unnecessarily difficult and risky to uphold tradition.
1533. Vince Bautista | May 12, 2008 at 3:38 pm
Please don’t pass this ordinance without giving opportunity to public discussion as to the merit and demerit of this ordinance.
There are other venues to look at for sources of revenues for the city of Chicago. If you pass this ordinance outright I will not forget you come election day.
1534. Laura M. Blommaert | May 12, 2008 at 3:38 pm
I strongly appose this ordinance! This will greatly stifle Chicago’s artistic community and the draw of the city. In the long run I strongly believe the city will not benefit from this ordinance and that money that is vital to local businesses will be lost! DO NOT PASS THIS BILL!!!
1535. Paul Fleishman | May 12, 2008 at 3:39 pm
As a music fan in Chicago, I believe this ordinance would have a negative effect on venues, artists and others who support live music in the city. I oppose this legislation. Thank you.
1536. Ben Muller | May 12, 2008 at 3:39 pm
Small theatre companies are the bread and butter of aspiring Chicago actors like myself. This law would severely hamper the ability of actors in this city to find work.
the small-time arts scene may not make as much money as Wicked, but it attracts many people to this citym and shows that Chicago is more than just a capital of industry. Should an ordinance be passed that robs Chicago of its soul?
It is stupid. That is all.
1537. Dave | May 12, 2008 at 3:39 pm
This is a bad idea.
1538. Tara | May 12, 2008 at 3:39 pm
Very sad. I love going to see independent productions and would hate to see them stop or reduce in number due to this ordinance!
1539. soce | May 12, 2008 at 3:39 pm
I am a touring comedian from NYC, and I just had the honor of performing at a wonderful comedy show in Chicago. I am just starting out, so I’m not quite able to fill 500+ seat auditoriums yet.
If promoters are forced to pay heavy fees for small shows, then they will no longer be able to put on these shows, and beginning artists will no longer bother stopping by Chicago on their tours.
I don’t understand what the city has to gain from this. I do see that they will have a lot to lose. Ultimately, all of the artists will be forced to travel elsewhere to perform their craft.
Gone will be the excitement and innovation, to be replaced with more bland Britney Spears and Creed clones. Yay?
Chicago has a truly amazing performance scene. Please do not destroy it.
1540. Miriam Sturm & Patrick Fleming | May 12, 2008 at 3:40 pm
This ordinance would be disastrous for any arts or live performances in Chicago. In an already diminished “scene” (from days-gone-by), this would be the deathknell. What short-sightedness on the part of the politicos, too! Their cherished “tourism” would suffer greatly with the disappearance of numerous music, theatre, other options to offer to visitors. We won’t be a great city any longer, just another hell-hole— with long winters, poor parking and miserable traffic tie-ups. We’ll be bereft of anything we can point to with pride, and attend with a desire to expand our minds, our souls, our imaginations… It would eventually be the kind of deterioration that will drive the best of our City’s Creative Community out of town, heading for less oppressive areas. Please don’t let this go through.
1541. Francis Veraldi | May 12, 2008 at 3:40 pm
This is a horrible notion and is just why this country broke away from the British to begin with. I am a local musician and feel that this ordinace would squash the Chicago music scene and many of my own performances. Add my name to the petition please.
1542. Brad M | May 12, 2008 at 3:40 pm
It is difficult enough for striving musicians to find a place to perform and express themselves. They have a hard time finding the money to put together a show,and they make little money as it is.To require such high fees for performing at small venues is unnecessary.Most musicians are not troublemakers,why make it so hard for them?I do not see the necessity of this ordinance.Maybe a small percent of venues have problems of violence,etc.
1543. Derrick Pawlak | May 12, 2008 at 3:40 pm
This is ridiculous and will end up hurting our city.
1544. Stephanie Gostele | May 12, 2008 at 3:40 pm
This ordinance is the exact opposite of why I love Chicago.
1545. Tiffany S | May 12, 2008 at 3:40 pm
Please don’t stop the music! Keep Chicago a friend to the arts!
DO NOT LET THIS HAPPEN!!!
1546. Jessica Porter | May 12, 2008 at 3:40 pm
just one question….why! it would totally suck if they passed this =(
1547. Kendra | May 12, 2008 at 3:41 pm
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1548. Emily Faith Cook | May 12, 2008 at 3:41 pm
The foundation of any thriving culture or community is in its music, art and food. Any good Chicagoan, including its politicians, can attest to that being paramount in this great city. We’re a city based on small-venue blues, jazz, rock and hip-hop; on independent art galleries and movie houses; on small forward-thinking restaurants. We’re a city based on freedom of expression no matter what the insurance policy of the venue is. Please, City of Chicago, don’t take away our musicians right to rock, or you’ll be taking away a large part of what it means to be a Chicagoan!
1549. Ron Langford - KeyDragon | May 12, 2008 at 3:41 pm
Come on! You’ve got to be kidding! Don’t let it happen!
Rage On,
KeyDragon
1550. Dylan | May 12, 2008 at 3:42 pm
This proposed ordinance, is amazing— in a really bad way. I’m shocked that a government would be so vehemently behind something so destructive to such a huge part of the city’s personality and business. Sounds like there’s something much more sinister behind this all.
http://punchlinemagazine.com/blog/?p=1008
1551. Erik Freitag | May 12, 2008 at 3:42 pm
This is nothing short of an atrocity. I am a promoter in the Twin Ports area (Duluth/Superior), as well as a member of a band and editor-in-chief of my own magazine. The gigs I’ve played in Chicago (Thirsty Whale, Smiler Coogan’s, The Vic) have been great and I look forward to playing Chicago again over the summer.
I hope like hell this ordinance does not pass.
1552. Bridget Carey | May 12, 2008 at 3:42 pm
I am moving back to Chicago from St. Louis this weekend specifically to get back into the theatre scene. Although shows like “Jersey Boys” and “Wicked” are important to Chicago (and an obvious money maker) there is NO WAY that we should not have the opportunity to see smaller shows at smaller venues. I have always noticed that the smaller the show, the more dedicated everyone is to make sure it happens. From the actors and directors to the crews and designers and everyone in between. Because of this, you get a finished product that may not have all the glitz and glam as “Wicked”, but you get theatre at its best. Please don’t take away the GOOD theatre in Chicago.
1553. Gia J. | May 12, 2008 at 3:42 pm
This is ridiculous!!!
1554. Ryan Plaza | May 12, 2008 at 3:43 pm
this will surely stifle the culture and beauty of chicago. its sad to think there is actually a group of people that feel this action will better a society.
1555. Hannah | May 12, 2008 at 3:43 pm
An ordinance like that is completely ridiculous!
Are they trying to put down our creativity and imagination?!
To shatter our dreams of preforming in front of an audience in chicago?
Yeah, well, let’s put they’re dreams of ruining ours down.
Screw this ordinance.
SAVE CHICAGO CULTURE!
1556. Chicago Music | May 12, 2008 at 3:43 pm
Ward 19,20,21,22,23,24,25 so fourth.
• Ward Office: 10444 S. Western Ave.
Chicago, IL 60643
• Ward Phone: 773-238-8766
• Fax: 773-238-9049
• E-Mail: vrugai@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 300 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-3072
• Ward Office: 6357 S. Cottage Grove
Chicago, IL 60637
• Ward Phone: 773/955-5610
• Ward Fax: 773/955-5612
• E-Mail: Willie.Cochran@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 300 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-6840
• Ward Office: 9612 S. Halsted
Chicago, IL 60628
• Ward Phone: 773/881-9300
• Ward Fax: 773/881-9383
• E-Mail: ward21@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 300 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-4810
• Ward Office: 2500 S. St Louis
Chicago, IL 60623
• Ward Phone: 773-762-1771
• E-Mail: rmunoz@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 300 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-9491
• Ward Office: 6247 S. Archer Ave.
Chicago, IL 60638
• Ward Phone: 773-582-4444
• E-Mail: mzalewski@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 203 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-6828
• Ward Office: 2100 S. Marshall Blvd.,
Ste. 801 Chicago, IL 60623
• Ward Phone: 773-522-2430
• E-Mail: Sharon.Dixon@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-6839
• Ward Office: 2439 S. Oakley St.
Chicago, IL 60608
• Ward Phone: 312-843-1200
• E-Mail: dsolis@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 203 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-6845
• Ward Office: 3236 W. Division
Chicago, IL 60651
• Ward Phone: 773-276-4269
• E-Mail: bocasio@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 300Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-6853
• Ward Office: 1463 W. Chicago Avenue
Chicago, IL 60622
• Ward Phone: 312-432-1995
• E-Mail: wburnett@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. La Salle Street
Room 203 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-6124
• Ward Office: 118 N. Pulaski Road
Chicago, IL 60624
• Ward Phone: 773-533-0900
• Ward Fax: 773-533-6199
• E-Mail: ehsmith@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 203 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-3066
• Ward Office: 5937 West Madison Avenue
Chicago, Il 60644
• Ward Phone: 773-261-4646
• E-Mail: icarothers@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 203 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-3070
• Ward Office: 3348 N. Milwaukee Ave.
Chicago, IL
• Ward Website: http://www.reboyras.com
• Ward Phone: 773/794-3095
• E-Mail: ward30@cityofchicago.org
• City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
Room 203 Chicago, IL 60602
• City Hall Phone: 312-744-3304
1557. Michael Krause | May 12, 2008 at 3:43 pm
This is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard . Chicagos music scene is what sets us apart from most cities, including NY. All I live for at this point is going to clubs and seeing music and the undeground artists. Anyway the city can get money I guess?!. I’ts truly disturbing whats going on in terms of how chicago government views real culture at a grass roots level in this city.
,thanks alot !! I cannot be more disturbed by the direction this city is going , this is just another example.
1558. Andrew Scott | May 12, 2008 at 3:44 pm
please do not pass this bill
1559. Cali Olivares | May 12, 2008 at 3:44 pm
I oppose this ordinance and it’s far-reaching implications for free speech.
1560. Meg McGrath | May 12, 2008 at 3:44 pm
This would take away that special something that I so look forward to when I go into the city!
1561. Jessica | May 12, 2008 at 3:44 pm
I just bought a condo near the Metro and was so excited about seeing more shows there… please don’t ruin this for me and everyone else who loves Chicago’s music scene.
1562. Dave rudolf | May 12, 2008 at 3:44 pm
I hope the alderman come to their senses and that it’s not just an attempt to generate more income for the city at the expense of the artists and supporters of the arts. You can be penny wise and pound foolish. Tourism would be just one of the areas effected by losing venues, artists, and culture in this great city…The chain of disasterous effects to the vibrant cultural community would be staggering. Don’t let this happen to Chicago
1563. Ryan King | May 12, 2008 at 3:45 pm
Chicago City Council….please do not pass this Event Promoter’s ordinance…you will be helping the world become less creative, by limiting chicago’s creativity that can affect the rest of the world, because chicago is known to be one of the most creative places to visit for good wide varieties of music….i mean i would be more likely to go to Chicago for live music over New York, please do not take that away from us….Bands nad promoter’s and bar owners already don’t make enough money for what they do, and if this ordinance is passed that is basically gonna make it impossible for some people to do what they love…..keep the scene alive and please do not pass this ordinance….this is very serious buisiness…we are not all rich in this world, think about the ones who aren’t..love,
Ryan King
1564. Molly Levine | May 12, 2008 at 3:45 pm
If this ordinance passes, I am sorry to say I will not be taking as many trips to Chicago as I do now. If it passes, Chicago will lose business to all the surrounding neighborhoods such as Schaumburg, Rockford, and Wisconsin. Why would the city want to put their entrepreneurs/business owners at risk? Wouldn’t they just lose more taxes that way? If people are not going to go to the clubs/events that offer this music, they will not generate revenue thus not generate money for taxes. It’s a shame that the city of Chicago is even considering this move.
1565. Andrea Kessler | May 12, 2008 at 3:45 pm
Please do not pass this ordinance. This would be an embarrassment to Chicago’s reputation as a world class city, at the very LEAST!
1566. Bahar Partow | May 12, 2008 at 3:46 pm
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1567. Eric Behnen | May 12, 2008 at 3:46 pm
Being a citizen of Chicago for 20 years. I could not imagine the city without the influence of music. Having this taken away would be crazy.
1568. Jason | May 12, 2008 at 3:46 pm
If leaving a comment doesn’t count as signing the petition, please add my name.
1569. Mark Kater | May 12, 2008 at 3:47 pm
Art, Theater, Music, Dance… The expressive arts are all about the individual or small group being able to get out before the public and express theimselves. Street corners, small venues and free concerts. Experimentation, trial and error. Paint Sound Movement Word…….
The arts have already been budgeted out of our school systems. Just when we should be adding more opportunities for creative thinking and expression, along comes an attempt to reign things in even more. This act of regulation is a fascist step. I hate to use that word when it comes to Chicago. A place that has been nurturing and central to development of many kinds of art and performances.
Even the attempt to regulate the arts is backward thinking. Think of ways to free up the individual not to put them in a small box that only MONEY can free………
1570. Jarod | May 12, 2008 at 3:47 pm
Venues are already required to carry proper coverage, and current regulation of the PPA licenses regulate safety and security guidelines… Wouldn’t this be a double payment for the same thing?
I’m not even going to go in to how smaller music venues and smaller artists will survive.
All this will end up doing is pushing the talent and promoters OUT of Chicago.
1571. Scott Fischer | May 12, 2008 at 3:47 pm
This concerns me greatly. I’ve already felt that Chicago needs to make changes in order to improve our performance events. This looks as though it will send us back even further in progress – please do something about this!
1572. Julee Mathena | May 12, 2008 at 3:47 pm
I would like to express my displeasure the proposed promoter’s ordinance that is being brought before City Counsel on Wednesday. While I understand the need for regulation, I feel the proposed ordinance is going too far and making it next to impossible for the smaller promoters that are the life and blood of the music scene in Chicago to continue here. As someone who attends 5-10 live music events a month (often with friends visiting from out of town for the shows), I can say that more than half of these are put on by independent promoters. If this ordinance passes, it would be a huge blow to the thriving music scene of Chicago and will change the cultural landscape as we know it. I am a resident of Ward 47 and have written a letter to Alderman Schulter urging him to reconsider his stance on this.
1573. Janay Joyce | May 12, 2008 at 3:47 pm
I am saddened and outraged by the possibility of the passing of this ordinance! I ask all those with the power to make this decision to listen to the voices of your constituents and VOTE NO on the “Event Promoter’s” ordinance!!
Peace and play on,
Janay Joyce, Social Worker and music lover,
1574. Dennise | May 12, 2008 at 3:47 pm
To deny people of its own culture is inhuman! If you’re goal is to rob this historical city of the small independent charms that make it unique, then this is definitely the way to do it.
And you want the Olympics to be held here? Please, all the other cities we are competing with know exactly why culture is so important and that is why we will not be chosen, because of greedy money grabbing idiots who call themselves leaders!
Wise up and realize that you are making a huge mistake!
You are destroying this great city!
1575. Nikki Weiss | May 12, 2008 at 3:47 pm
Though I do not currently live in Chicago, I make many trips over the course of the year to Chicago specifically for it’s smaller live music venues. Adding an ordinance like this will do nothing but eliminate the ability of these smaller venues to host the shows that they do. This is a truly ironic ordinance, considering Chicago is a city that appears to pride itself on it’s cultural atmosphere.
Please do not allow this to pass. With these smaller venues being one of the main reasons why so many of our trips are planned in Chicago, this may force us to consider a new destination. Is the loss in revenue from tourism really worth it?
1576. Brett Borden | May 12, 2008 at 3:48 pm
This law is ridiculous and must be prevented from going into effect.
1577. Vincent Iwinski | May 12, 2008 at 3:48 pm
I have been in the music business in this great city for over 10 years planning shows for my group Umphrey’s McGee from Schuba’s and Martyrs’ up through the Chicago Theater and The Aragon Ballroom. Recently I helped bring the Green Apple Festival to Chicago in 2007 and 2008, the biggest Earth Day celebration in the country. I was happy to help bring an event to Chicago that makes a difference because I believe in this city, I believe in Chicago’s strong sense of culture and support of the arts. This ordinance WILL weaken Chicago’s music and arts, and I cannot in good conscious stand by while this happens. PLEASE DO NOT ALLOW THIS ORDINANCE TO PASS.
1578. Rachele Wilken | May 12, 2008 at 3:48 pm
This is the most ridiculous thing I’ve heard in a long time? Some of the best shows are held at the small venues! How can you stifle creativity?
1579. Joe Connors | May 12, 2008 at 3:48 pm
They wont do this. It would be a big mistake. The question is “What are they trying to achieve by giving this threat?”
1580. Barb Lhota | May 12, 2008 at 3:49 pm
I don’t agree with this, and do not understand why this would not be more visible. If there is reasoning around this, let it be debated and discussed and let proper amount of media attention to the matter.